Transcript/826: March 4, 2004

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Dan (00:00:59.000)

Hey, everybody like McDonald's, right? I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk a little bit about Alex Zhu. Oh,

Jordan (00:01:07.000)

indeed, we are down in Jordan. Jordan, the question for you. Today, buddy.

Dan (00:01:13.000)

My blind spot today, Jordan is that I finally have a date for moving. As people who listen to the show regularly, I'm sure are aware because I've mentioned it a couple times. At a frustrating transitional housing thing going on. And just to be able to know like, Alright, that is the day that it's gonna happen. I I've got you know, it's it's, it's a load off. There's been a lot of like, sort of lingering in the air. Yeah. You know, like, how's this going to work out time wise is, you know, I always knew that there was going to be a place where I could live. Sure, you know, but the the exact, like, how am I going to make this work was so so nebulous. And now just what a relief.

Jordan (00:02:02.000)

You know what, that's so similar to what's giving birth. Because it's like, I don't know when it's gonna happen. But then sometimes the doctors like a fuck it. It's gonna happen next week, and you're like, shit, thank God, at least it's gonna happen next week. It is exactly like giving birth. It's exactly like that. And

Dan (00:02:18.000)

so now I know the pain of childbirth. And I will not be condescended to by any pregnant person out there. What's your

Jordan (00:02:29.000)

my bright spot is the TV show warrior. It's really good.

Dan (00:02:35.000)

Is that? Is that a serialized version of that movie with like, the the baseball Furies and the Whoa, no,

Jordan (00:02:41.000)

no, not the Warriors? No, it's based off of one of Bruce Lee's ideas. You know, before before kung fu happened and all that stuff. He had this idea for what amounts to now you know, dead wood in San Francisco with an all you know, with a majority Chinese cast, you know, and of course, you can't do that in the 60s Because racism. Sure. So now they made it. It's fucking great. It's fucking great. All right, and they got a great Bruce Lee, a surrogate guy playing the lead. He's the warrior. He's the warrior.

Dan (00:03:16.000)

What is he fighting a war against?

Jordan (00:03:18.000)

Um, I mean, you know, racism. Sure. White people. It's it San Francisco in the I think 20. So So yeah, just mainly white people. Well, and then other people. Ah, yeah. White people. Other people. Yes.

Dan (00:03:35.000)

What a description of the show both kinds. Jordan today we have an episode to do. And we're going to be in the past we're going to be talking about March 4 2004 was a terrible show. So bad. No bad. No. So bad. Alex is a real piece of shit. Oh, no.

Dan (00:03:54.000)

Yeah, he's

Dan (00:03:55.000)

Yeah. And in some ways, it's actually kind of there's there's some things to learn. And there's some things that are illustrative. So it's worthwhile, how shady he is. But man, he's a big piece of a piece of shit. So we have this episode to go over it. But before we dive into that, and you know, say hi to some walks, I found something interesting. Okay. So I was going through, bam, dot video, not Alex's website do as poking around in there seeing what's going on? Because, you know, sometimes they'll have weird channels pop up. Yeah, there's the next wentest channel that but whatever. Yeah, still there. I think it's inactive. That sounds right. But I noticed they have a best of Tucker Carlson channel. And previously, it was just the interview that Alex did with Tucker Carlson years.

Jordan (00:04:51.000)

Best of Tucker.

Dan (00:04:52.000)

But now Alex is just reposting Tucker's Twitter show. Oh,

Dan (00:04:57.000)

I wonder if he has permission to do that. Ah Oh boy,

Jordan (00:05:00.000)

I want yeah, that's a good question.

Dan (00:05:02.000)

Yeah. I if I were Tucker I would probably say no. Like you would want whatever audience is going to watch it on Alex's shit to be, you know, forced to come over to your Twitter thing. Sure.

Jordan (00:05:13.000)

I bet at the beginning with all those numbers, maybe Tucker was like, go for it. I've got billions of people watch me. And then now maybe he'd be like, Hey, don't repost my stuff. I doubt

Dan (00:05:25.000)

it. I doubt it. I think if you're starting your own thing, especially if you're going from Fox News to doing a Twitter show, you're wanting to like really establish yourself and maybe create a foundation of people who are know that this is where they're going to get the content as opposed to be distributed willy nilly all over the place. Yeah, generally

Jordan (00:05:43.000)

that is a pretty big part of success in media.

Dan (00:05:47.000)

I think Alex is just stealing Tucker's shit does it sound right?

Jordan (00:05:51.000)

That does sound right. Hey, Tucker,

Dan (00:05:52.000)

call your lawyers, not those lawyers. The other will see I want the lawyers that are defending you. Dealing with Fox News. Some other lawyers. Talk to Alex Yeah. When

Jordan (00:06:03.000)

when you when you have that many lawyers working for you. You're You're a bad person. No, like it should have just been a bunch of clips have edited together Tucker like outtakes and stuff like that. Best of Tucker Carlson.

Dan (00:06:18.000)

I'm just saying Alex Jones. He had some point,

Jordan (00:06:23.000)

he just cut a supercut of Tucker saying Alex Jones over and over and over again is the best of Tucker I think,

Dan (00:06:29.000)

according to one guy Exactly. Out in Texas with a thick old neck. Oh, yeah. So we're gonna talk about this terrible bad show here in a second. But before we do, Jordan, let's say hello to some new ones. Oh, that's great idea. So first donnacha It seems that the entirety of the meme speech from Metal Gear Rising was over the character limit for a shout out. Happy late birthday man did notches pronounced. Don't not cut. Ooh, I screwed it up. Anyway, you're now ballsy walk. I'm a policy. Pronunciation. I

Jordan (00:07:02.000)

did that on purpose. Because you were cold reading it. I thought it'd be fun for everyone next

Dan (00:07:05.000)

Tucker is your destiny. Thank you so much. You are now ballsy. Well, I'm a

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policy wonk.

Jordan (00:07:10.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:07:11.000)

Yes. Zeus. Next sour cream fondue fountain. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:07:19.000)

I'm a policy wonk, thank you very much.

Dan (00:07:21.000)

She 13th dimension.

Jordan (00:07:22.000)

Yeah, we talked a lot. Next. I'm

Dan (00:07:24.000)

Dan's urban camel. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank

Jordan (00:07:28.000)

you very much.

Dan (00:07:29.000)

I'm sure what that's a reference to what is an urban camel. I don't know. But I know that just makes me think of getting into an argument about whether or not there was wolves downtown. Yeah, I

Jordan (00:07:38.000)

recall. I do. We don't need to. Versus wolf argument. Okay.

Dan (00:07:43.000)

Next. Thank you, Ben. Baked Beans begins for introducing me to these guys been listening since the X ray arcade. Thank you so much. You're now ballsy walk.

Alex Jones (00:07:52.000)

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank

Dan (00:07:53.000)

you, and we're going to take a look right at the mixer. Thank you so much do Dorcas lives may scold mageddon strike down the invading sex robots. You are now a technocrat?

Alex Jones (00:08:03.000)

I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow. Actually. I'm just gonna take a little break now. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil a lot going on there. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, Fuck you and your new world order. And fuck the horse she wrote in on and all your shit. Maybe today should have been less broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow. And you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow.

Dan (00:08:57.000)

He's not and he's definitely not on March 4 2004.

Jordan (00:09:02.000)

guys suck. That's a lot of tomorrow's to miss being better for oh, that's a significant number.

Dan (00:09:08.000)

If you get 1% or point 1% better each day from March 4 2004 to the present. You'd probably be a great

Jordan (00:09:18.000)

person. I mean, compound interest. You'd be great. It has to be Yeah. Alex is bad. Alex is bad if you lose point. 1% I'm not sure.

Dan (00:09:27.000)

I'm not sure this one just I mean, there's just a lot of distaste I have for this episode. And maybe it's because it's coming off of a couple of days worth of like there's nothing going on here outside of Alex blaming third world populations for babies crying and movies. Wow, that

Jordan (00:09:45.000)

one is still debatable. We haven't got the science back on that one.

Dan (00:09:50.000)

Yeah, I don't know if we need to. So you know, there's this sort of dull period and then we get to this and it's just just shit just bad. But one of the things one of the narratives that he's been going over during this dole period, quite a bit is that there's a new trend that people have been doing which is putting money in microwaves. I don't know if you remember this. So the new money what the new money that came out, you certainly had the Yeah, it has the strip in it for like, not being able to. Pirate it. counterfeiters. Yeah. So piracy. It's piracy, piracy, and it's not not by Rosie. I don't know why that was the word that came to mind. But yeah, people so people were putting in money into microwaves because that that would flicker and like set on fire. And so conspiracy theorists are like, this is the RFID chip being put into the money, man. They're tracking your bills.

Jordan (00:10:52.000)

Okay. So people microwaved money for a while. Yeah, it was a little bit

Dan (00:10:57.000)

of a fad. And then people were coming out and be like, don't put your money on them. Like, that shouldn't be a conversation, but that's fine. It's dangerous. Yes. And then other people were like, using microwaves to clean money. They thought that that would be like get stuff off? Sure. Sure. Show. There's a lot of that going on. And to Alex's weird, weird been covering this a bit. And apparently, it's really exciting because Steve Watson and Paul Joseph Watson's brother, right, also put some euros in the microwave.

Jordan (00:11:33.000)

I mean, it makes sense. If you're like a third grader just coming off your favorite science class, just be like, let's find out what happens when you do everything different. Sure,

Dan (00:11:42.000)

sure. But that third grader is going to then ask why did this happen? That is true. And then find the answer, as opposed to people like Alex, who are just like, it's the global. So you might get some sense from that. Why that was a dull period of a couple of days. Yeah. But I was excited for this where Alex talks about how sensational stuff like putting money in the microwave gets more attention than other stuff he talks about. Yeah, yeah.

Alex Jones (00:12:12.000)

I mean, now there's a big debate are there RFIDs in the money, I think the fact that the money exploded, or pop like firecrackers is just an illustration of madness, or some weird money. I mean, it's really a novelty. But people latch on stories like that. I mean, we will post a photograph and I don't get a million viewers, and then, you know, some government document from the Library of Congress about how the government engineered aids and they say they engineered it in 1968, or 1975. And they say it's a soft kill weapon, and they describe it, we post that and it gets, you know, 10,000 people look at it in a month. So, this also speaks to what captures people's attention. And it certainly images, you know, loading towers with jet liners flying into them, you know, that gets people's attention. That's what I mean. And so somehow we've got to shift our minds into, you know, really becoming upset about bills and legislation and things like that. Because if we could get people as excited about the Patriot Act One and two, and what's in it as we could about exploding $20 bills. Then we wouldn't get this country back. But but people liked visual things they like. They like sports, they like gladiatorial diversions.

Dan (00:13:37.000)

So on a descriptive level, Alex is right about the the dynamic that he is describing, essentially, that sensationalism sells, he's accurately assessed a problem with how human attention operates. And at this point, he's at least pretending to want to solve that problem by encouraging people to pay attention to the more boring, less sensational stories that are actually possibly more substantive. But we know how Alex's career has progressed since then. And I think that this frustration that he's discussing, it might have played some part, possibly even subconscious as a part in his path. Instead of trying to get people to pay attention to the bills and legislation and things that matter. Alex went the entire other direction, turning his career into a near constant barrage of empty, meaningless spectacle meant solely to capture people's attention and keep them stuck in that, like, Look at this $20 bill in the microwave. Yeah, yeah, he's aware that that $20 bill in the microwave doesn't mean anything. No, this is just something that's visually interesting to people. That's a weird money.

Jordan (00:14:40.000)

Yeah, there's probably some magnesium in the little strip or some some weird. It's not complicated,

Dan (00:14:45.000)

but But it's weird. I mean,

Jordan (00:14:47.000)

that's also a weird thing to say, oh, man, this is some weird money. Like, I don't understand. It's just okay, but fine, but fine, but fine,

Dan (00:14:56.000)

if that's your thesis,

Jordan (00:14:57.000)

fine. Fine.

Dan (00:14:58.000)

So weird. on it. Yeah. All funding is weird when you really think about it.

Jordan (00:15:03.000)

I mean, the thing about the subconscious element of it is, I mean, he knows that there that his bills and shit aren't real to, you know, like the sensational stuff isn't real, but or at least it is real sense that you can watch that Bill light on fire. You're saying

Dan (00:15:21.000)

that the bills and legislation and the government admitting that AIDS is a soft killed lie weapon? Yeah, that's true. It's not real either. Right. Right. Right. But it's more Dan sleep boring. It's in terms of like trying to look into it. Right. If you were gonna go ahead and read those bullshit articles about non existent bills and stuff chair that he's talking about that is dry. Yeah, that is not really all that interesting. You will come to some greater truth if you approach it and actually read this stuff critically. But it is more fun to just investigate whether or not money gets weird in the oven. Microwave,

Jordan (00:16:01.000)

if there's only positive consequences for leaning into the sensationalism and negative consequences for leaning into the boring stuff. It makes sense.

Dan (00:16:10.000)

Well, and especially realizing that all you really have to do is pay lip service to the more Yeah, like substantive stuff and be like, it's all there. It's all in the white papers. And then people just give you credit for having talked about Yeah, or understanding any of that deep stuff he gets.

Jordan (00:16:26.000)

He gets credit for doing research by complaining that people aren't looking at the research. He didn't do.

Dan (00:16:32.000)

Yes. And they're too busy talking about the microwaved money that he's been spending days talking. Yes, yes. Yes. That is the dynamic. Yeah, that makes sense. So I have bad news. Was that ever been to the Piggly Wiggly?

Jordan (00:16:47.000)

I don't think so. No. What's the Piggly Wiggly?

Dan (00:16:49.000)

It's like a convenience store kind of thing. Yeah, wiggly. Turns out very soon after this episode, you started to have to thumbprint to buy and sell there. So Mark of the Beast has come to the Piggly Wiggly

Alex Jones (00:17:05.000)

limit. I told you this. I'm telling you this for six years since I learned about it but now it's coming. Like I told people in 97 that he was involved with the feds grocery store chain in Texas and we're gonna be putting in thumb scanners to track and trace and control you for the new sales tax and they have announced it is official. It's gone in and some stores in Houston and polish station two years ago. A bunch of heb stores in Austin in three weeks are putting them in and Piggly Wiggly. There's a big World Net Daily article that Piggly Wiggly and its stores are putting them in. Have you used credit card or cheque at the checkout counter. You're gonna have the thumb scan, Piggly Wiggly, Safeway, Kroger, target Walmart. I hope you enjoy if you're used to using it here in the next few years they will announce your new sales tax I hope you enjoy it. God will control over every business your business or how small scanner but then you do and sell track. federal control you thought the IRS was bad now they'll be like, Oh, and by the way they share the money with a local so there'll be federally deputize and enforce. And I do have the article here from Newsday. Police were federalized and then I put under UN control two days ago a bunch of them.

Dan (00:18:20.000)

Wow, that's a that's a whole lot of stuff. That didn't happen. That is st condescendingly Yeah,

Jordan (00:18:25.000)

in a real dickish way. Yeah. Real Tucker as shit to say.

Dan (00:18:30.000)

19 years later. Yeah, you can still you pay with cards anywhere. From scanning.

Jordan (00:18:35.000)

I listen. Let's all just decide what the Mark of the Beast is. And then get it. Okay, I'm tired of fine. I'm trying to I'm tired of trying to figure out what is the mark of the beast? I

Dan (00:18:45.000)

feel like we all are. It's Cheeto fingers.

Jordan (00:18:48.000)

Let's just do it. Fine. But He has cheated. Mark is a beast Yeah. Okay. But as long as we all his

Dan (00:18:54.000)

you know why? Why? Because the new version of Chester Cheetah was the beast. Oh, he was all prank and everybody trying to run his his Cheeto dust covered fingers on people's white clothes and stuff.

Jordan (00:19:07.000)

So it I mean, you're you're just describing Ashton Kutcher after having eaten Cheetos.

Dan (00:19:14.000)

That's how you became possessed. You became

Jordan (00:19:16.000)

possessed by the mark of the beast, cheetah. It's all making sense. Now. Finally, okay, so we can put the whole Mark of the Beast thing to rest. It's Cheeto fingers might have

Dan (00:19:25.000)

played this, I think on an intellectual level. I wanted to play this clip because it's an example of like these predictions that Alex makes and these like, his tone is so just snarky and maybe he'll be enjoy maybe beer and then like, it's all stuff that didn't happen. But I think emotionally I just wanted to hear him say Piggly Wiggly.

Jordan (00:19:47.000)

Really liked it. Yeah, it was quite enjoyable. Yeah, especially. That was the one that Okay, so the tone was fine. If you're saying Piggly Wiggly in that tone of voice. There's something incredibly funny about condescending to me. again saying Piggly Wiggly

Dan (00:20:01.000)

patriots, I regret to inform you that the Piggly Wiggly has fallen. I'm sorry. globalists have taken the Piggly Wiggly.

Jordan (00:20:09.000)

Are we are we no longer allowed in the Piggly Wigglies? anymore? Oh, no.

Dan (00:20:14.000)

I also was desperately trying to come up with a way that I could make a GB a acronym for a government. I just couldn't do it in real time. So you have a car? I do. Does it ever turn into a robot and lock you inside it? No, it had unfortunately does not shit. Another prediction Alex got wrong. It

Alex Jones (00:20:36.000)

probably aired this neocon star about 20 times. Yes. Because according to the Federal Documents, the guest members of Congress, people from the different legislatures I've had on about this. This is actually minus the mobile injections. What life will be like, your car will lock you in it will not start if you've got one parking ticket. A camera will watch you in your car. It's actually worse than this. So called dark humor.

Dan (00:21:11.000)

Yeah. So there's this thing, or this piece, this bit of comedy business called neocon star that Alex has played 100 fucking times he says 20 That is a low estimate. And it's sort of a skit. Somebody's calling on star but it's like Neil Young star. Right. Right. Right. And so it's like, hey, you know, you need to your national ID card. Lucky. Actually, I Why am I doing an impression of this? I'm going to play part of I don't know why I tried to recreate this.

Jordan (00:21:44.000)

But it's nice to see it in advance, and then we'll see the real version. I appreciate that.

Dan (00:21:49.000)

So yeah, Alex, Alex has this. And he's like, this is what it's gonna be like, man. This is. I know, I told you. This is a terrible episode. We just haven't gotten to the horrible. Just a little bit of levity at the beginning, I guess. But yeah, so here comes a little bit of that neocon stars hit.

Alex Jones (00:22:06.000)

Here's the neocon star. We'll just just just one more time because Toyota has actually rolled out one of these and says that the government wants this and so they're providing it and this will be the new car that we all use. And basically it is a mirror image actually a little bit worse in several cases than this humour of two months ago. So here it is. The following is an actual conversation between a neocon star operator and a subscriber in distress, was locked in her car and doesn't have the proper authorization to get out with neocon star help is just a satellite away. Yo,

Neoconstar Robot Operator (fictional) (00:22:44.000)

calm star. How can I offer you great service today?

Old Lady Trapped in Car (fictional) (00:22:48.000)

Please help me I'm trapped in my car. My retina scanner won't work. Just relax. It's not there. It's ma'am. Please hurry. It's hot in here.

Neoconstar Robot Operator (fictional) (00:22:57.000)

According to Admiral Poindexter. I have planned tomorrow. We'll see. Right. I have a live shot from the Neo cons observation area.

Old Lady Trapped in Car (fictional) (00:23:07.000)

I'm in Node lady.

Alex Jones (00:23:11.000)

Well, she's an old lady folks. Wow. For some reason, some of those files have been hiccupping. Honestly, Stephanie, you know what's going on? Now we've had someone in the computer hacking up the auditor. We have another one. So yeah. Oh, my goodness. And then now we added for you, my friends. Yeah, started over for us. So here's neocon start from the

Dan (00:23:44.000)

top he likes. So it ends up like the neocon star operator is going to send people to kill her because she is maybe a terrorist because she can't find her card or something. And then they offer her a lethal injection and she takes it Yeah, that's that's the end of the

Jordan (00:24:01.000)

bit. Yeah, yeah. Oh, really a well constructed

Dan (00:24:03.000)

bit. No, but man, you could you could see the little the Monsanto Mar. Yeah, Admiral Poindexter his database, you see all these things that are like I get it. If you're a conspiracy theorist, you're like, Ah, see, I know what you're talking about. That's the problem that's playing for the back of the room.

Jordan (00:24:19.000)

That's the issue. It's all for the back of the room. And it's not funny. This comedians comedian, no. It's for people who are just excited to hear the thing that they know. And go. Yep, that's it. It's not a bit. There's no turn. It's high level. There's no turn. Yes, there is a turn.

Dan (00:24:37.000)

She decides that she wants to die in that car by lethal injection instead of waiting for the troops to come and kill her.

Jordan (00:24:43.000)

That to turn it's a twist. No, it's not a reasonable outcome of the accepted logic within the bid. Nobody is acting out of the ordinary.

Dan (00:24:54.000)

I mean, in the constructed reality that they've established

Jordan (00:24:59.000)

it As this is just a totally normal conversation.

Dan (00:25:03.000)

It doesn't I mean, you know, it seems to be a robot.

Jordan (00:25:08.000)

For one thing, that was another issue. I don't know where any of those choices?

Dan (00:25:14.000)

I don't know. But Alex has played it a lot. Yeah. So I've heard it a lot.

Jordan (00:25:17.000)

I believe you.

Dan (00:25:18.000)

And there's a funnier? No, this is what's going to happen though. This is obviously where we are in 2023, lethal injection machines and cars. And

Jordan (00:25:29.000)

what I find funny about this is, in a sense, we are being watched in our cars by our phones, like our phones are always listening to us. They're always recording the things that we say. And then that is, there are

Dan (00:25:45.000)

a number of public and private video cameras all over the place where you're driving totally their lights, you know, like you can get a ticket if you run a red light stuff, you know, yeah, there's there. There are issues, right? It's not it's not with the car.

Jordan (00:26:01.000)

No, no. What's funny to me, though, is that all of these things are stuff he's like, oh, yeah, this is totally fine. You know, in the in the conception of his, like, right now in 2004. Yeah. If he was screaming, like, eventually, your phone's going to be listening to you all the time. And it's gonna pick up keywords that you say, and then the next time you search for something, they're going to recognize that you said that and then they're going to spit it back out at you. They're always watching me may do

Dan (00:26:27.000)

that on other episodes, and other times, right, perhaps,

Jordan (00:26:31.000)

but that would sound like a crazy globalist murderer.

Dan (00:26:35.000)

He says stuff like your refrigerator is listening to you and stuff like that. Less than the than the iPhone concerns. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I think it's a little excessive.

Jordan (00:26:47.000)

I mean, it's, I mean, the thing that's funny about it is that it is completely just like, paved over, you know, like, hey, we already Hey, listen, we already all have our phones. There's nothing we can do about it anyways, moving on. No, no, no, no globalist conspiracy is just like, hey, we shouldn't have these phones. Just no phones.

Dan (00:27:06.000)

Sure. Let's go back to rotaries. That's if you don't want them to watch you. But even so, like you are transposing on to this, what is your kind of like valid awareness about the world, which is that there is this, you know, monitor and capability that exists, right? Whereas Alex is like, if you don't pay your parking tickets, your car will lock you inside it, you know, like, yeah, that's the dystopian stuff. That's like, all right.

Jordan (00:27:35.000)

He has a very unreasonable dystopia. Yeah.

Dan (00:27:39.000)

Yeah. I think it would be counterproductive. Yeah. Even for the people who are trying to collect on these parkings

Jordan (00:27:45.000)

they do it locking you inside your car. That's the least way place you can pay for it.

Dan (00:27:49.000)

Right? Unless the people come they show up and then you have to give them money to get out of the car. Right? But then like, what were you going to take someone to debtors prison? Are you gonna let them die in the car car

Jordan (00:28:02.000)

is debtors prison now, are you going to take them to an ATM if that's what they need? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, how did they get the money to pay you?

Dan (00:28:10.000)

I don't know thumb scam. But we got an article that's backing Alex up on this stuff.

Alex Jones (00:28:15.000)

All right. Here's Wired Magazine. Today and then I have another one here, out of another major newspaper reporting on the same thing, and it says Melbourne, Australia at the Melbourne motor show last week put on veiled a controversial concept card would very closely monitor and in some cases restrict the action of its driver, including refusing to turn on. To drive the sweet Toyota sports, TiVo, a driver would have to enter a memory card into its console, turn on the engine. Based on the drivers experience and driving record the car adjust its engine performance, cutting back remote risk, but less experienced or spotty driving record seats, the Save the Children, drivers of the future who have grown up in the electronic age and how the remote speed camera enforcement measures, the electronic towaway charging systems aren't accepting of new technology that assist their lifestyle as a way of monitoring a Toyota press release says about the car. It's essential for drivers to be fully informed in this area of increasing electronic surveillance. And it's when we get back I mean it it says you'll be watched by cameras, everything you do will be controlled, you will submit

Dan (00:29:26.000)

you may have caught there that Alex said that that was a concept car. Yeah. And that means that this was a car that wasn't actually made and produced was there's a modeling of an idea that someone had. In this case, the concept was largely shaped by quote input from 14 to 18 year olds in Australia. And were given some of their thoughts about features that might be helpful in a car

Jordan (00:29:46.000)

Ovilus, 14 to 18 year old ideas.

Dan (00:29:49.000)

One of their ideas was a speedometer that would change its display when you're getting close to the speed limit. So you'd be able to tell more precisely how fast you were driving. This obviously couldn't be done because the car would need to automatically know what the speed limit was where you're driving, but the idea is kind of interesting. You know, I remember back when I put it into work in f1 cars now I remember back when I had a, like a Oldsmobile, an old car. Yeah. Didn't have a digital speedometer for sure. The old red light. Yeah, you don't you don't know exactly where you're going that that needle isn't precise.

Jordan (00:30:26.000)

Ya know, you used to be able to get pulled over and say, I don't know how fast I was going. And they'd be like, Yeah, that's a totally reasonable thing.

Dan (00:30:32.000)

Yeah, you might have been six, seven miles an hour over. And that's just because of the needle. Yeah, the needles weed. So, you know, they had some ideas, but it wasn't really a car, the car. The car was designed by a 29 year old guy who worked at Toyota with a concept aided by teenagers going to market research sessions. And Alex is over here on air trying to act like Soros himself designed this car. He's gonna force everyone to drive one within a matter of years. It's ridiculous when you know what he's basing this like, bullshit on? Yeah, like,

Jordan (00:31:03.000)

and I mean, it's, it's even more ridiculous when you're like, This is a private company. They can't force you to drive this car.

Dan (00:31:11.000)

You know, but see, here's the thing. The government is having the private company do this in order for them to soft release all of the stuff that they're going to force on? Yeah, sure. That's, and that's why 18 year olds introduced this in Australia. They

Jordan (00:31:26.000)

got a lot of globalist 18 year olds in Australia. So many do they recruit younger down there? What's the what's the age you graduate high school? Is it 14? Isn't

Dan (00:31:34.000)

the drinking age lower there? So is the globalist? Yeah. So there was another story that Alex is covering on this episode. And here's where things start to get real.

Jordan (00:31:46.000)

She was about to say this is probably where it's gonna go bad.

Dan (00:31:48.000)

So there's another story, and it is about AIDS medication being given to children in a hospital in New York. And there's some safe, sensational coverage of it. Yeah, that Alex is doing. And so now he has a guest on to talk about this story. Oh, boy,

Alex Jones (00:32:08.000)

we got a few minutes. Before we break. Let's just go and bring the doctor up. Dr. Razmik. Good to have you on the show. It's a pleasure to be with you. This is hard, hard to face. But it's I mean, there's a bunch of different facets to the story isn't there?

David Rasnick (00:32:23.000)

Yes, there's the drugs. There's the children being treated with these drugs against their will. It's the children who are being taken away from their parents and put in these institutions because the parents refuse to treat them with these drugs. It just goes on and on.

Dan (00:32:38.000)

So this guy, his name is David Resnick. And that's not a household name, but it is in a very specific community, namely the AIDS denialist community. He's a big figure in the world of folks who don't believe HIV is real or that it doesn't lead to AIDS, and he's done a ton of damage to a lot of people. One of his big ideas is that antiretroviral drugs, meant to manage AIDS or HIV are actually the cause of the condition, and that the real cure is some super cool unregulated vitamins that he sells. He went so far with his big ideas to take a trip to South Africa, where he would actively discourage people from seeking treatment from hospitals or clinics, instead saying they should take his vitamins. He also even discouraged people from getting tested. He was working for a company that sold the vitamins in the capacity of running fraudulent clinical trials aiming and proving the vitamins efficacy, which the South African government would later declare illegal. Here he is on Alex's show discussing the story about the Child Protective Services supposedly running illegal drug trials on children, all the while he's running illegal drug trials in South Africa. Also, as recently as 2006, it was reported that he advised people that HIV quote cannot be transmitted between heterosexuals. So this guy is an expert. I,

Jordan (00:33:57.000)

you know, the shittiest part about American history is that the solution is actually the problem is the oldest con in the history of right it's absurdly Yeah, the solution now that's actually what's killing you,

Dan (00:34:13.000)

the people trying to help or hurting you, the people who are hurting, you are actually the saviors

Jordan (00:34:18.000)

down and it's all because you're struggling and in so much pain and fucked up and all that stuff. And you'd rather

Dan (00:34:24.000)

and and a lot of times, you aren't getting the help that people should be providing No. Yep. So the underlying story here that Alex is covering is about a New York Post article involving research and care that was done with foster children being given HIV AIDS medication. They weren't given it for no reason, as Alex and his guests may want to suggest these were all kids with HIV AIDS, and many of them were severely ill and wouldn't have had access to any treatment outside the program due to financial hardship, right? The whole thing gets a little bit messy, so I'm going to try and sum it up as concisely as I can. This story got some traction here around out this point 2004. And then in 2005, the BBC put out a special called the guinea pig kids that stirred up a lot of public concern. In response, the Vera Institute of Justice launched an investigation of the claims made in that documentary, and got to the bottom of it. This all had to do with this program at the Incarnation Children's Center in New York. And ultimately, 532 of these children were involved in trials of approved medications. Like for instance, they were approved and tested but not on children, right, necessarily right. After quote, interviewing dozens of people involved in the trials and reviewing hundreds of 1000s of pages of case files, documents and correspondence, the Vera Institute announced the conclusion of their work in 2009, they found that no children died as a result of the medications they were given. They found that no foster children were removed from their families, because they wouldn't consent to treatment, which you can hear Resnick assert here, and that is one of the big things they hang their hat on in terms of their claims, of course, and then also rasnic is a bad source on this stuff, because he thinks that just giving appropriate medication for HIV or AIDS is actually hurting these, these children. So that's, that's something that isn't even unpacked on Alex's show, which is a very important variable in terms of having this person as a guest. Yeah. So yeah, I will say the investigation did come up with some concerning points. It's not this story is not entirely without some criticism. Sure. For one thing, they weren't able to find the official consent forms for all of the children who participated. The New York Times does know that quote, the State Department, the state's Department of Health refused Vera's request to review medical records, which might have included some additional consents. That's an open question. And also they found in some cases, consent forms that were hand written, which isn't in line with policy, but could indicate informed consent was given Share, share share, pretty inappropriate away to a

Jordan (00:37:06.000)

number of reasons. Yeah, keeping No no, that makes Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. They were

Dan (00:37:11.000)

some questions about this entire affair, and most of it was from an admin perspective, but ultimately, when all of the investigation was concluded, the claims that sensationalist assholes made about this were all found to be bogus. And so all of the stuff that they're talking about here on Alex's show and shit, nonsense, yeah. Incidentally, even before that full investigation concluded, the BBC was forced to make a big public apology about that guinea pig kids special. They were roundly criticized for distorting facts, and strangely only presenting the viewpoints of notorious aids denialist it should shock nobody at this point for me to reveal that one of the experts that was interviewed on that show was David rasnic, the pile of shit who's talking to Alex here in 2004. So he is on to talk about a story that he's misrepresenting and doing a very, he's played a big role in MIS covering. Yeah. And, and gaining attention based on those like erroneous claims.

Jordan (00:38:13.000)

Yeah, exactly. I wanted to start a fight based on guinea pig guinea pig kids. That's a fucking disrespectful. I mean, that's already fucked up. Well, you titled it the guinea pig kids. And you're talking about I mean, their children is sick with HIV.

Dan (00:38:29.000)

Well, yes. Now, I don't know if the name is really that inappropriate. Were some of the claims to be sure more accurate. AV if it was about like a giant scandal where you were testing unknown medications on unwitting children, then maybe that name would have been more appropriate. Sure, but it's it's not shown that that's the case fucked. So these guys are liars.

Alex Jones (00:38:57.000)

A lot of these children die from the drugs and

David Rasnick (00:39:01.000)

of course, they were the ones that don't die or injured. Many people may not know this, but prescription drugs used properly already FDA drugs used properly kill 100,000 Americans every year, and seriously injure over 2 million. Now that's drugs that already passed FDA approval. Now imagine what the the unknowns are with these experimental drugs and procedures that are going on in these institutions.

Alex Jones (00:39:26.000)

Now I've talked to a lot of doctors, a lot of scientists they say that a lot of these age drugs somebody will be healthy they go on them and they're dead a year later that the drugs are killing the people. Of course they are.

Dan (00:39:36.000)

So I guess that's actually Alex's view too. Wow, that's wild. Wow.

Jordan (00:39:40.000)

I mean, that's that doesn't Don't people get letters from lawyers about this. The BBC did Yes, it doesn't the Attorney General have some job of like, Hey, don't do this. You're killing people.

Dan (00:39:52.000)

You know, you know what's kind of weird, along with money. Is that it. I kind of had a sense that Alex had some of these views. Yeah. And especially because like John Rappaport definitely has. Oh, yeah. Like he's written books about, like HIV not being real and stuff. But I've not really heard I don't think Alex be that explicit.

Jordan (00:40:18.000)

Just straight out. Drunk all all prescription medications will kill you. If you take well,

Dan (00:40:23.000)

this aids medications will give you the that's what's causing the condition or whatever. It's It's nuts.

Jordan (00:40:31.000)

That's so heartbreaking. Also

Dan (00:40:34.000)

100,000 people, let's say, you know, for the sake, let's stipulate that people die. February lives and drugs every year. Yeah. How many people would die if we just didn't have any prescription drugs?

Jordan (00:40:46.000)

50,000 see, whoa, I bet it'd be completely different

Dan (00:40:51.000)

tests that that number would be higher. Yeah, it'll be significantly I think this is all just anti science, quite frankly.

Neoconstar Robot Operator (fictional) (00:41:00.000)

I Yeah.

Jordan (00:41:01.000)

I mean, it's disgusting. Yeah.

Jordan (00:41:05.000)

That's the fucking shit that that AIDS did to people. Yeah. Is I mean, that anybody could not treat it with the same seriousness as the fucking pandemic is is bananas to me.

Dan (00:41:21.000)

It's not too surprising to them that the same? Same games. Yeah.

Jordan (00:41:25.000)

And more offensively. To boot. Yeah.

Dan (00:41:28.000)

So then I guess the question becomes, what about Magic Johnson? What about that guy?

Alex Jones (00:41:34.000)

That is amazing. And how come Magic Johnson doesn't need it? He announced to us that Oh, I don't need any of this now.

David Rasnick (00:41:40.000)

Well, yeah, I mean, he he started taking the drugs I think along the over a decade ago, and they made him sick. And he stopped taking them. And I'm sorry, pretty clear that as long as he doesn't take the drugs, he's gonna stay healthy and walk around. He doesn't actually ever admit publicly that he is taking these drugs, but he implies it. You know, you see these billboards in the subway station in San Francisco and other places that give the clear implication that that, that Magic Johnson and I

Alex Jones (00:42:09.000)

remember years going off of them needed anymore. It well,

David Rasnick (00:42:14.000)

he absolutely did, because they were very toxic, and he was able to guide healthy people really don't need drugs.

Alex Jones (00:42:22.000)

No, and Lord, it's in. Stay there, doctor.

Dan (00:42:26.000)

So this is a particularly insidious thing to lie about. Because Magic Johnson has made it a part of his careers mission to help educate the public about HIV and AIDS. And what Alex and Resnick are doing here is attempting to undo what magic has worked for. One of the big things that magic stresses in almost all of his interviews is that he is not cured, and that his condition is as manageable as it is because of the medications he takes. He's not said that he's fine and doesn't need the drugs. But he has trimmed down on the amount of medication he needs to take. And his HIV viral load is at an undetectable level again, because of his medication, which he's very clear about. In a frontline interview magic did in 2011, exactly 20 years after he made his big public announcement about contracting HIV. He discusses his experience with medication. Magic has asked if he ever had any side effects, and he replied, quote, I never had any side effect. I'm one of those. And I think what helped me too is I kept working out and when it could have been tough for me in terms of that I really busted through that tough period because I wasn't going to let it get me. So I don't know what this guy's talking about Razmik I don't know. In that same interview, he magic is asked what some of the myths are that needed to be dispelled about HIV. And the first thing he says is literally quote, not taking your meds. It'll be okay. Yeah, that's the first thing he says. This is complete bullshit about Magic Johnson. This isn't to say that, you know,

Jordan (00:43:56.000)

I just feel like if what you're saying kills people, it's bad.

Dan (00:44:02.000)

Oh, Jordan. Jordan.

Jordan (00:44:05.000)

I think it's bad if you say things that lead to people dying of the things. Oh, Jordan. Why do I feel stupid for saying that always happen?

Dan (00:44:17.000)

Oh, just because this next clip is gonna make it worse. Oh,

Alex Jones (00:44:19.000)

no. All right. Well, Dr. Ravin and God bless you for what you're doing and Godspeed. Is there any place where we can read any of your writings or

David Rasnick (00:44:28.000)

the internet? If you do a Google search, you'll find a lot of my name, you know, there, but one place you can go is www.is. Burke DEFV rg.com We got a lot of a lot of articles on there.

Alex Jones (00:44:41.000)

duisburg.com and we'll get a link to that on infowars.com. And then a link to the New York Post exposing this as well on the website. Can we have you back on sometime around? course we'll be happy to do it. I like to have you on just on the age. Scam itself, right. All right. God bless To take care of

Dan (00:45:00.000)

the AIDS scam, so that website duesberg.com The resume is plugging and Alex is directing his audience to is the homepage of one of the world's highest profile aids. denialists Peter Duesberg. In the year 2000, South African President Thabo Mbeki, he convened a an advisory panel on HIV and AIDS. There were 44 members on this panel and it included Peter Duesberg. Duesberg doesn't really believe that AIDS and HIV are real and to the extent they are it's a byproduct of drug use. One of the primary culprits he points to his poppers which is really interesting because a clip was circulating recently of presidential candidate RFK Jr, suggesting that AIDS is caused by poppers. These ideas are insane and dangerous, but they're not really the as far outside the mainstream as we would like to believe. Anyway, Duesberg was the most prominent aids denialist on Becky's panel, and the government would drag their feet on supporting the use of antiretroviral drugs, going so far as to not accept donations and grants towards that end, a study in 2008, published in the Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency syndromes estimated that at least 330,000 deaths are attributable to that five year delay, which was in part influenced by the panel where Duesberg was the chief denialist. Yeah. So when you're talking about, you know, things that cause death, or, or, you know, let's say maybe not caused death, but eliminate the possibility of saving lives, or however you want to put it,

Jordan (00:46:33.000)

I, you know, this is just another one of those things that we refuse to reckon with, like, the AIDS crisis was the A, an act of violence towards the LGBTQ community. And nobody's dealt with that, like, nobody's dealt with the fact that governments all over the world willingly laughed, because fuck it, you know, oh, no, this is a disease for those people. And let it and just didn't I mean, it's fucked up. It's fucked up. And we did. Nobody. Nobody reckons with that. You know, and nobody is like, oh, okay, I can't believe that. We're still so homophobic when not without saying like, Oh, yeah, 30 years ago, you could laugh at people for dying of AIDS. You could just laugh at them. And be like, see, this is what you get. Yes, of course. We're still a fucking homophobic nation.

Dan (00:47:27.000)

Oh, god. Yeah, it takes it takes a while and a lot of intent to recover from that. Brutal as a culture brutal. Say, I hate this guy. fucking hate this guy. Yep. The story that Alex is talking about, you know, like, obviously, there's a manipulation of a real story. And it's far more complicated than any kind of discussion that he's having. Yeah. And the points that he's making are nonsense, bullshit. But then just this guy presenting him as any kind of person you should look up to is it's unconscionable. It's, I would rather him have pissed Dr. Group, you know, yeah, this doc, quite frankly, although I'm sure he probably has some fucked up beliefs about HIV to

Jordan (00:48:20.000)

Yeah, I imagine that we don't want to get any of them talking on this subject at all for any length of time.

Dan (00:48:26.000)

Yeah. Doctor group probably thinks that he solves everything.

Jordan (00:48:29.000)

Do you know what I think they think? They think that that's, that's what I can say. Do you know what I think they think they think exactly that I don't need to hear them say it.

Dan (00:48:40.000)

So Alex takes calls for the rest of the show. And he also just rambles a bit. Here he is talking about how the government's putting the digital straitjacket on everybody okay, and then listen to the way he describes like the things that are gonna happen okay. feels somewhat familiar to present day stuff,

Alex Jones (00:49:03.000)

folks, it is insane. I shall not saying it but that he said it you know, it's like Toyota in the mainstream news in Wired Magazine. With you know, cameras watching you automatic breathalyzers tracking, you got to swipe your ID card to get at the start. retina scans. And now New York's about the past the law, I just learned that it's about the past in New Mexico. I mean, it's happening, it's happening. This, this digital straitjackets being put in place, and then the government's gonna blow stuff up and say that this is against microchips. And we've got to arrest anybody who's against the chip because they're the ones that released the bio weapon. And then oh, now, you know, a million Americans died from the weaponized smallpox. We've all got to take the chip to prove that we're with the government, as Andy Rooney said after 911 he said we should all have chips Not sure we can prove we're with the good people. I mean, I know this is horrible. This is the antichrist system. It's all true. It's now happening.

Dan (00:50:08.000)

These pieces are the same. Yeah, the chip is the COVID vaccine, the, the narratives that Alex has about false flags against the power grid and stuff like that are the same thing with this. The anti chip terrorists, yep. You know, like, it's nothing really changes. There's a lot of overlap and lack of creativity in terms of the lot of this. It sucks.

Jordan (00:50:41.000)

Yeah, it's hard to, it's hard to really reconcile what we know to be true, which is that they just plug different words in the Mad Libs of things. They say slight, very, it's jazz. Yeah, it's I mean, it is it's bullshit jazz. And it's like, how is it possible that we keep doing the same thing over and over and over again? How is it possible that they can get away with there's

Dan (00:51:02.000)

constantly new people to trick and most people don't like, don't want to deal with it. Once they move, move on to the next thing. That's true. Also, just a quick reminder, that Toyota story that he's talking about is the one about teens in Australia, designing a concept car that never went to production and didn't have most of the features that Alex is rattling off about it. That's the evidence of the government tightening the digital straitjacket on us, which seems like he's a overly dramatic fella here.

Jordan (00:51:29.000)

I mean, I have a key fob to get into my car. That's essentially an ID card. Right? It's not quite

Dan (00:51:35.000)

the same because like the stuff if I were to play the entirety of Alex's, like nightmarish view of this, it's like, not only do you have to do a breathalyzer It assesses the air in your car. So like, if you wear too much cologne, it'll think you're drunk. Sure. And then also, because a baby could like blow in your breathalyzer it right Miss IAM, yeah, to find out if you're drunk, right. And then also, like, not Alex's paranoid fantasies, but part of this concept car was this idea of like, you're talking about a key fob to get into your car. That's, you know, the, like an electronic entry aspect. But what they're talking about is an idea of a chip that you can put in. So it would like cars would be interchangeable, almost. So like you would have your profile or whatever on this car, okay, and you'd put it in, and then the license plate would digitally show your license plates. Okay? If you you friend was driving your car and got a ticket there would they would be responsible for you know,

Jordan (00:52:38.000)

that would be an interesting way to get rid of ownership of cars. Hmm, you know what I'm saying? Like, drive a car, park it somewhere. And then the next person when they need a car, they'll get in the car, and there'll be their license plate and they'll keep going. I think this is actually kind of a good idea. Well, they're long as we don't own anything.

Dan (00:52:54.000)

There's, there's, there's aspects to it that I think solve some problems. Yeah. And are kind of interesting. But also the implementation of it is ridiculously complicated. Yeah, that

Jordan (00:53:05.000)

would not be possible. Yeah. Yeah. But again, for fantasies. That would be a great Sure.

Dan (00:53:11.000)

Yeah, sure. So Alex gets called. And I think this guy has some anti semitic conspiracy theories he's trying to poke at That's it. Well, Alex is trying to not engage fully.

Alex Jones (00:53:24.000)

I posted the Providence Journal news 10 NBC, I mean, I didn't say it, the newspaper said it, it said, flying anything but an American flag, you will be charged as a terrorist, criticize the government will be charged as a terrorist. I mean, it said it and then when he got some heat on it, he said, I hadn't read it. I don't know why you're so upset. I mean, they're just, they're just trying anything and everything right now.

Caller 1 (826) (00:53:49.000)

I mean, when in communist Russia, first the Jews got you in the gulag, and they killed you with malnutrition and disease. So the police state Gulag system goes hand in hand with the death camps and become the death camp. So my mother

Alex Jones (00:54:03.000)

explain that because Hitler had death camps and putting a lot of people on it, including a lot of Jews, and then a lot saying that, that you know that Russia was run by Jews, but Stalin arrested a bunch of Jews,

Caller 1 (826) (00:54:14.000)

right? And Stalin had three Jewish wives and Hitler was a Jew, but Stalin killed 10 times more than Hitler. And the Jews were running that program when Stalin tried to kill the Jews in the death camps. Then the Jewish doctors killed Stalin. Oh, boy.

Jordan (00:54:27.000)

I'm sorry. Yeah. Oh, boy. Pan.

Dan (00:54:31.000)

So yeah, man. I don't know. I don't think Alex is up to having the debate with this guy. I think Alex is gonna he got off the topic pretty quick after this.

Jordan (00:54:42.000)

I think once you hear well, Hitler was a Jew, you. You should just be like, we're done. Yeah, that's all good.

Jordan (00:54:50.000)

I can tell what you're about. You said everything that you needed to say. And I don't want to say anything at all. Yeah, especially if your tone is like that. You're are a scary man. Yes. Yeah. So, Alex, in this next clip, he's talking about

Dan (00:55:10.000)

a racially motivated murder that happened in 1998 and making some stuff up and it's pretty fucking shitty.

Alex Jones (00:55:21.000)

I mean, the answer really is don't watch Peter Jennings and Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw and and, and other people on Fox in their fake LEFT, RIGHT garbage unless you want to know what the enemy is pushing and doing and spinning. I mean, you find the truth on the AP and Reuters news wires. But that stuff never gets past the gatekeeper. All the reporters aren't bad. They just wonder why. I wonder why I never go anywhere. You know, the AP reporter that wrote the story about how five black men drug a white man to death in in Jasper, Texas. They said, Oh, we're gonna pay you back. And I called the sheriff and said, I got this AP article from January 14 2002. I'd like to have you on it. I can't come on talk about it. I'd be accused of being racist, like. So see, we all have this unwritten rule. And you're saying, Well, what are you talking about? You know, you go from implantable microchips to white people dragging a white man to death and loosehead came off. But whatever the point is, you all heard about him dragging the poor black man mr. I don't know Mr. King, drug name, dragging the death of his cat head came off. And they were in prison together in gang wars together and it's horrible what happened to him but five black guys drunk, an old white man to death walking down the same superhighway why there's a white guy, let's kill a white. And they do it. The whole media knows just I mean, what a human interest story. Blacks kill a wide on the same stretch of road. Let's not but the AP reporter thought Well, that's an interesting article writes it. I get the AP article. No one ever reports on I called the sheriff gonna come on and talk about we don't talk about a smart chair. He knows the rules.

Dan (00:57:09.000)

So one of the things that I find really telling about Alex's recollection about this story is that he has exactly one specific detail. He doesn't remember the name of the black man who was lynched by being dragged behind a truck by white supremacists in 1998. He remembers the name of John King, the white supremacist who is the ringleader of that murder. This is the person who Alex ascribes an identity to he's the person who has personhood, who isn't just a black or a white. That's not insignificant. Alex knows who that guy is. Yeah. Yep, that murder was not due to some kind of a jailhouse fight Alex it just lying based on the detail that King and one of his accomplices joined a white supremacist gang while they were in prison prior to the murder, it was pretty clear why they did what they did based on statements that they made after the fact and based on how they intentionally left his torso in front of a black church. The sheriff at the time was Billy rolls, who retired in 2019. After 50 years on the force, he seems like a pretty frank guy. In 2011, he was reflecting on the media attention that he got after this murder. This guy's name was James Byrd. We've talked about that in the past. And that's why I'm not going into a great detail. And the details of it are fucking horrific. Yeah. But when he was reflecting on the media attention, this Sheriff rolls said, quote, you know, everybody came out here expecting to find a racist community and a redneck sheriff. A pot bellied snuff, dipping beer drinking Sherif that was a bigot. Most of that was all right, but I wasn't a bigot. That's kind of fun. All right. Yeah. Okay. I was mocking himself a little bit. I gotcha. I honestly have no idea what revenge murder Alex is talking about where five black men killed a white guy. And from all the digging I've done, I can find literally no evidence of this happening. i If someone knows what he's talking about, I would be open to hearing what that is. But like I've seen interviews with Sheriff rolls, reflecting on the murder and the aftermath. And I think if there were a revenge, copycat murder, it seems like a relevant part of the aftermath, but nothing like that ever comes up. I suspect that Alex read some headlines about how the town was scared about more violence occurring because the Klan decided that they wanted to do a rally in Jasper. And that brought out folks like Khalil Muhammad and the new Black Panthers. So tensions were really high. I have a feeling that Alex just came up with a story in his head that allowed him to minimize the gravity of this actual lynching because he's heavily invested in not believing that racist white people exist. And if by some unimaginable fluke, one does exist, they're one to one balanced out by a racist black person. Of course, the tragedy is that this lack of evidence that of this other murder happening, it wouldn't hurt the audience's faith and Alex's narrow If the lack of evidence would simply be proof of how good the covered the cover up was that Alex is also alleging is happening here. So, yeah, it's bullshit.

Jordan (01:00:10.000)

Yeah, you know, it is. He's talking like segregation is still going on. And I don't know if he thinks it's not hard to say, you know, like, the way he's talking is so George Wallace a like that, that just woof woof. Yeah. Well, I mean,

Dan (01:00:35.000)

do you know we go back to that example all the time, but like seeing Muslim women a pool supply shop? Yeah, that like what is that other than I want them at a different pool supply?

Jordan (01:00:45.000)

They go to their own pool supply shop, and I go to my supply shop, what is

Dan (01:00:49.000)

he expressing other than a refusal to have an integrated society? Right. So I mean, I don't know how it would be surprising if it 2004 He had no opinions that were bordering on at least subconsciously or like, you know, under the surface or powered by ideas of segregation mean

Jordan (01:01:12.000)

that but it's it is so stark, it's so strange to hear it like like you I don't I don't think I can't remember the last time I heard a conversation phrased in the terms of like, the blacks and the whole the white. A white you know

Dan (01:01:28.000)

what, that you know, that is really shocking. And like, it's not because I'm listening to Alex, right. But in the real world, someone saying stuff like that. Yeah. Be really, really fucked up. Yeah,

Jordan (01:01:40.000)

yeah. The moment you did that would be like,

Dan (01:01:43.000)

Yeah, I think that's maybe one of the deficiencies of our show is that we're dealing with Alex right. And so like the standards of like, what would be weird? Socially?

Jordan (01:01:53.000)

It's true. Just like right off the bar. God. Yeah. We have a hard time connecting with regular people now don't wait.

Dan (01:02:01.000)

Yeah. Like if I were critiquing him as a normal person, the second he says, black

Jordan (01:02:06.000)

or white? Yeah. Like, no, no. fuck out of here. What? What? What? Yeah, but we're on episode 850 or whatever. We can't.

Dan (01:02:15.000)

Yeah, honestly, I think I would have just turned this off when he started getting it today. Yeah,

Dan (01:02:19.000)

totally. Absolutely. Fuck this. need this up? Jesus Yeah. So I mean, look, we

Jordan (01:02:28.000)

got a we got just like real bad sort of racist stuff. Yeah, we got real bad aids. denialist stuff. Like it's just I told you it's a bad episode is bad, bad stuff.

Jordan (01:02:40.000)

This is this is you know, this is like one of those a, an incredibly white supremacist episode and an all like white male supremacy episode. But because it's never like, out and out said, you know, you, you were like, Oh, well, they talked about AIDS denialism. Oh, well, they talked about this or all that stuff. But the reality is, this is a white male supremacist show today. You know, like, that's what it is, on a fundamental level. Yeah.

Dan (01:03:09.000)

And, you know, I think that on some level, the AIDS denialism even runs into that, you know, it intersects at a certain point. No, that's

Jordan (01:03:18.000)

what I'm saying. Because, yeah, the phobia that's

Dan (01:03:21.000)

in there, what you what you, you know, along with, like, just sort of a hatred and disregard of the LGBTQ community. There's also a, like, it's a disease of other people. Yeah. That's Z, the way that HIV AIDS is dealt with so often, by even NASA, like, I don't know, probably some well meaning people to but also folks like Alex, is that it's the others disease. Yeah. You know, there's a stigmatizing of whether it's, you know, gay people, or it's poor people or it's minorities. Wow. You know, like it's it's always viewed through that prism, as opposed to our problem we are dealing with totally I

Jordan (01:04:13.000)

mean, in in Europe, you know, the syphilis was everybody else's, you know, if you were French, it was the English disease. If you write English, it was the French, you know, it was everybody's other problem. You know, it's all these gross people from elsewhere who are spreading this disease, and it's a dehumanizing fucked up thing to do.

Dan (01:04:32.000)

Yeah. And I think that, you know, I mean, it sucks. I think some of that's getting a little bit better now. I think that there's progress being made. trying, but yeah, 2004 Not good. Not

Jordan (01:04:47.000)

good. No. Hard to remember exactly how shit people were back then. Yeah. And I

Dan (01:04:52.000)

would imagine that there's even some voices that are not as horrible and awful as Alex that have Some uninvolved positions. I imagined myself in 2004 I would have not a great Oh, total handle on things. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, fuck this dude. Dude, we have one last clip here. And Alex reveals how little he knows about the Constitution that he loves so much because the caller is discussing about the possibility of getting an amendment Oh into the Constitution. That would not allow same sex marriage. Yeah. Here's Alex's take.

Alex Jones (01:05:31.000)

Okay, anything else? Sir?

Caller 2 (826) (01:05:32.000)

What's your take on this Bush's plan to amend the Constitution to protect marriage to total

Alex Jones (01:05:39.000)

scan? They tried the flag burning too. I mean, I'm not for homosexual marriage. I'm not for burning flags. But you know, the freedom in America is the freedom to burn that flag. That's what the flag symbolizes the right to do that. But it's a red herring. If we get a constitutional convention, they can rewrite the whole bill of rights. I guarantee you have a condom sorry, arch. There'll be a huge terror attack during the con con, and they'll throw out the entire bill of rights guaranteed. That's the plan.

Caller 2 (826) (01:06:06.000)

He didn't mention the con con, but I think you know, it's a joke. I mean, how

Alex Jones (01:06:09.000)

do you think they get a constitutional amendment? Sure.

Caller 2 (826) (01:06:13.000)

They don't have to call perfect convention Congress, Congress adopted the state.

Alex Jones (01:06:18.000)

Well, that's that's what a con con is.

Unknown Speaker (01:06:21.000)

Wow. con con. Oh,

Caller 2 (826) (01:06:23.000)

there's an amendment constitutional convention. There's a difference between the convention and an amendment No,

Alex Jones (01:06:29.000)

I mean, to get an amendment it has to go to the states and once that's opened the states can change everything. What so

Caller 2 (826) (01:06:34.000)

anyway, you know, definitely Tony conservative bush and

Jordan (01:06:41.000)

I like that. I like him being like, wow, you don't know shit. Well, anyways. Wow. Well, anyway,

Dan (01:06:50.000)

I mean, the colors right? Yeah, but Alex is wrong. Yeah.

Jordan (01:06:55.000)

I do like this idea, though. That like, once the con con is going that's our office states can rewrite everything free for all Yeah, everybody steps into the ring. There's 50 states, whoever whichever state is left in the ring at the end of May. It's a it's a constitutional rumble, right. Yeah,

Dan (01:07:13.000)

you don't you're not going to understand this fully. But it reminds me of the last episode of lost the smoke monster can you can only be killed in his human form when the island is unplugged. So they have to unplug the island for a small amount of time to kill the smoke monster and then plug the island back in. That's the con con when they could stay the Bill of Rights

Jordan (01:07:37.000)

lost was actually if we turned out undoing the Constitution, we turn the Constitution off right, then then we can all tear it apart but red pen everywhere scissors, and then the Constitution comes back on and we're all gonna be like, Wait, it's different now.

Dan (01:07:52.000)

When the Constitutional Convention is going that doesn't mean all laws are suspend all laws

Jordan (01:07:58.000)

are fake now. I mean, I if what you're describing is a page one rewrite. I agree. Weird. We should be that's not what is not describing? No, no, it can rewrite the bill of how

Dan (01:08:15.000)

a constitutional convention involves like getting together and then people proposing and then maybe voting on it. But like, that's never been done. No, it's not going to happen. No, all of the amendments have happened a different way. Yeah. And Alex seems unaware of that.

Jordan (01:08:33.000)

What is it what is it three fourths of the states have to agree to get an amendment?

Dan (01:08:38.000)

I think so. Yeah, I think it's three fourths. Yeah. Might be six eighths

Jordan (01:08:42.000)

could be how far do you want to keep this going? I thought you were gonna do the next 12 sixteenths. All right.

Dan (01:08:54.000)

Yeah. Alex's stupid doesn't even know his own like baileywick that's in his wheelhouse. Yeah, that should be should know this stuff.

Jordan (01:09:02.000)

A civics class would be so useful. Oh, like an adult quotes class. A civics class? Yeah. I feel like I would be fine if there was like a Hey, you, everybody on on July 4 2025. We're all taking a civics class. We're all gonna watch it. We're all gonna agree with the Constitution does and then we're gonna move forward.

Dan (01:09:25.000)

Yeah. You know, I think that I think that one of the issues that we have here is that, like, Alex isn't smart. But he was smart for a young kid. Sure, you know, yeah. And then he just sort of coasted on that and then never really never really worked on stuff and never really learned how to think better. You're never really learned how to research never, never learned any of those things that he probably could have been, you know, equipped with and a form of logic Patient of some sort. And now he's just kind of operating on the like intellectual abilities of like, a pretty smart 12 year old.

Jordan (01:10:10.000)

That's I was I was literally thinking that here's what happened. He's like

Dan (01:10:14.000)

a, like a fifth grader who would be in the gifted program. Oh, he's real. He's real smart for a fifth grader, but he's 50

Jordan (01:10:23.000)

know somebody, I totally it's like a you can see it in your mind. Somebody being like, wow, Alex, you're really smart. And then he stopped learning. You know, he was like, did it nailed it? I'm really smart. Now. That's all I need to do. I will be smart forever because I am smart now. Right.

Dan (01:10:39.000)

Right. Well, I mean, there is there is a lot of essential ness to a lot of his belief. So if you are smart, you will be Yeah. And you will always be good at everything. Yeah, that's

Jordan (01:10:48.000)

great thinking. That's great. Thank you.

Dan (01:10:50.000)

It certainly made him a lot of money.

Jordan (01:10:53.000)

I mean, I wish that part weren't true. That's the part that makes me angry but

Jordan (01:10:58.000)

it will also lose him a lot of money. That part I liked so that part is good. That's a good part. There is a bit of a cautionary tale Yeah, perhaps and maybe we're just not to the part where there's the payoff. Yeah, the prestige. Yeah, we got to get there the conclusion of the story is yet to be richest.

Jordan (01:11:13.000)

It's gotta happen.

Dan (01:11:15.000)

I say have Have some faith. I hope there's in faith it springs eternal faith, not hope.

Neoconstar Robot Operator (fictional) (01:11:25.000)

So we come to

Dan (01:11:26.000)

the end of this and this episode sucked. Like sucks hopefully. Real pile shit. Yep. And we'll be back.

Jordan (01:11:35.000)

Wrap it up. Don't know what else to say. There's really not much else to say hey, this dude Bucha website at renew itself. i.com Yep, we're also on blue sky. We are on blue sky at knowledge fight.

Dan (01:11:48.000)

No underscore, no underscore will do that. But until then, I'm gonna go I'm Leo. I'm DCX Clark.

Neoconstar Robot Operator (fictional) (01:11:54.000)

deep deep deep doop doop doop doop.

Unknown Speaker (01:12:00.000)

And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy In Kansas (01:12:03.000)

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.