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Dan and Jordan, I am SWEATING

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I have great respect for knowledgefight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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saying we are the bad guys

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Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight

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Stop it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas

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Hello Alex, I'm a victim, calling in my huge fans

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I love your work

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knowledgefight

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh indeed we are, Dan

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Jordan

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Dan

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Jordan

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I have a quick question for you, sir

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Sup

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What's your bright spot today?

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My bright spot today, Jordan, is I know, uh, uh, long time listeners will know that I have finished Survivor

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Indeed

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Uh, watched every season

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Right

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And now I'm watching the current

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I don't think you have to be that long of a listener for that one

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It did, it did happen quicker than, than I would like to admit

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Faster than the 500 Celsius

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Uh, yeah

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Anyways

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So my bright spot is, I've been looking around for something to fill that void, scratch the itch

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I've been watching some amazing race, and I think it stinks

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Sure

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I think it's disrespectful to travel, and I also hate everybody who's on it

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Pretty much everybody sucks

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These are good reasons

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Yeah, I did finally get to a season that has the Harlem Globetrotters in it though

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Aren't they amazing?

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They're pretty fun

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They're pretty great

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Yeah

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They're pretty great

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I like how they'll go to, like, other countries and then just do basketball tricks

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They're the best!

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They seem to genuinely like each other

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It's fantastic, they're great

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Uh, one of the episodes that I saw, one of the challenges was they had to sew a garment

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Yes

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And so they were in a garment workshop, and then the other one who's not doing the challenge is

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just doing basketball tricks, and everybody's loving it

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So much fun

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It's the best, it's the best

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Anyway, I don't like that show much, and I found the Australian version of Survivor

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Of course, of course

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The Australian Survivor is my bright spot

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I think it's fun, it's basically just Survivor but with Australian accents

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and none of the bullshit at this point

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None of the bullshit

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Yes, I've just started watching

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How many years back in this are you? Are you on season one?

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They only have a few seasons on Paramount Prime

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Gotcha

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Uh, plus or whatever, so I'm on season four, I think, is the first season that they have

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Okay, okay

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And I'm only a couple episodes in, but no twists

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No twists

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None

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I think that there's a hidden immunity idol, but that might be it

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This is Australia, we don't do twists here

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Straightforward, that's not a knife, this is a knife shit, okay?

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I found it very refreshing after the

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hundred different rule changes that have gone on on American Survivor

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Ah, you don't like Survivor, yeah?

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It's just, it's refreshing to see people playing the game that I remember

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It being the show loosely what I remember

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Sure

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So that's my bright spot, how about you?

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My bright spot, Dan, is, I just got to it, The War on Drugs released a new album

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and it's my bright spot because it's one, a very good album

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and two, because many people are describing The War on Drugs as one of the best rock bands

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currently today in the description, and this most recent album is absolutely a Willie Nelson album

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Can we just get a clean take of you saying that your bright spot is The War on Drugs?

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The War on Drugs!

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My bright spot is The War on Drugs, Dan

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I love incarcerating people who don't deserve it, my favorite

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Well, because that doesn't need to be taken totally out of context

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Yeah, no, it's a great album and it is 100% a Willie Nelson record

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Hmm, it's just a great old-time country album with more updated, you know, distortion

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That's basically it, but it's great!

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Nice!

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I love it!

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This is continuing in your tradition of giving music recommendations to the folks, and it's fun

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It is fun

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So, Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to go over

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I'm torn, I'm conflicted

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You're torn

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Yeah, because there's a part of me that recognizes that Alex just lost the Connecticut lawsuit

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Sandy Hook lawsuit by default

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Sure, you could say he's cold and ashamed, lying naked

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He's a brilliant?

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Yeah, he's all out of faith

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No, he's not, he's got plenty of faith left

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But, you know, we gotta cover the present day

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We gotta cover November 15th, 2021, Blackjack

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Blackjack

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You tricked me like a motherfucker

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But there's another part of me that wants to dig even deeper into the past

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I'm very conflicted, and I'm not sure what I'm gonna do

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But, before we find out

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Okay, oh my god

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Do not tease before the break

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How dare you?

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How fucking dare you?

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This is as close to a commercial break as we literally have, man

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Let's say hello to some moo-wonks

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First, help, I'm stuck in a policy wonk factory

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You're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Next, chaotic asexual time crime Loki

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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Next, go tigers, red wings, lions, and pistons, down with Chicago sports

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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Interesting name

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Doesn't like Chicago sports

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I reluctantly thank you

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I didn't

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Yeah, yeah, I don't really have a position on that, but I should be against it

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because otherwise I'm gonna get beat up here on the streets of Chicago

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Yes

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The Blackhawks fans will get me

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Yes

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Next, Anna, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thanks, Anna

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Thank you

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And Justin, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much, Justin

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All right, Jordan, so here's the deal, here's the situation

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What is the deal or situation?

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I want to make a compromise, and that is we'll do the present day episode

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but I have an out of context drop from 1998

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Okay

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Here is an out of context drop

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From the very beginning

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From April 7th, 1998

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All right

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We're following the pattern of history, I am probably, good chance, 50% chance

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that I will be killed within the next five years

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I don't say this for theatrics, and I don't say this to scare you

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but we need to go ahead and be honest about where we're at in this group psychology realm

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Wow, 23 years of saying I will be murdered at any moment

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I am about to be killed

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Well, to be fair, I think coming up on the 23 anniversary

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What's the, what's the, is that the silver anniversary? Which one is that?

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Yeah, I think it's pearls

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I like that a lot, I think that's really fun

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but I do think in fairness to him, he said it was a 50% chance

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so maybe you just got lucky on that coin flip

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Sure, sure

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But he's not saying this for theatrics

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Is this like a quantum suicide situation where we're just living in the wrong universe

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where he keeps not dying on a 50-50 shot?

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It's possible

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Brutal

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I found some of these old episodes, bits of them

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Amazing

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From the late 90s and also a choice clip from this episode

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All right, this April 7th, 1998 episode has to do with him saying

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Hey, we gotta not, we gotta not drink, we gotta, we shouldn't party

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Not because it's wrong, but because we need to maintain our focus

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Listen, we need to keep our bodies pure, no supplements of any kind, nothing,

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nothing that could really do, you know, in the body is a temple

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Just what God gave us is good enough

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No tattoos, no nothing

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Uh, yeah, that tone has changed a little bit

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A little bit

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So I guess we gotta get to the present day

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All right

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Jordan, I don't want to do it

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Okay, then let's not do it

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Okay, so look, I'll, we have to do it

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Okay, well then let's do it

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We do have to, can we just put it off a little bit?

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I mean, let's not do it

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Let's put it off, we'll do it in a little bit

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In a little bit

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Are you double teasing before the break?

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First, like, I feel like, you know, Alex is in more legal trouble

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That's true

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So we should probably talk to Mark Bankston, the lead attorney

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Sure

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For the plaintiffs in the same case as he texts us

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Right, but there's no way we would get to do that

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We talked to him once and that seems like way outside of our

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That's overkill

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's outside of our ability

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Yeah, that would never happen

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Hey folks, we're thrilled to welcome back to the podcast

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A delightful guest, someone who the audience really took to

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Absolutely

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Fan favorite

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Someone who we do not deserve to be speaking to

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Let's be honest about all of that

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Lead counsel for the Sandy Hook families and their cases in the Texas courts

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Mark Bankston, welcome back

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Mark, good to be here

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Good to be home, gentlemen

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Thank you for coming back, it's awesome

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I'll tell you earlier today, after the big news and everything that was going on

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CNN invited one of us to come on and talk to them

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Speak to Anderson Cooper tonight in prime time

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And I told my partner, man, hey, I think you're gonna have to do it

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I got a knowledge fight tonight

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Once again, we have scooped Anderson Cooper

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Gotta do the big one

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Like, I'm not doing...

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Well, thank you, we appreciate you making time

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I mean, it's an intense stretch of time since we last spoke

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And then today, we're recording this on Monday

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Which is the day that the Connecticut default happened

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The great Connecticut default

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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah

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That's what they're calling it

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So it's gotta be a whirlwind

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Well, you know, one thing that proves it is that

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What I was doing on this case for the last three years wasn't a fluke

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You know, it wasn't just some weird, random, off-the-reservation thing

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It wasn't some wild west shit that happened down in Texas

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This happened in the stoic state of Connecticut, you know

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I mean, they have a whole different way they run things up there

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And to see this happen there with another judge saying

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Yeah, this is beyond ridiculous

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This is farcical

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And I've let it be farcical for so long

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Just out of allowance on who the defendant is

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I'm just not wanting to say we railroaded this guy

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But it's been so farcical for so long and now it's finally the time

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Yeah, it's wild

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Yeah

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It's different judge, different plaintiff attorneys

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So there's so many different variables

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The only thing really that's similar between them is Alex and his behavior

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Yeah, the only constant is that

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I love that it reinforces my concept of

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If a thing happens, then this will happen because of it, you know?

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Like if you do the exact same thing in one court in Texas

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It will happen in another court if you do the exact same thing

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That's great

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We live in such a system that works like that

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Our world's been so fake for so long and so weird

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That you're not, yeah

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The idea of like a uniform field theory of law is insane

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Like, yeah

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I bet there isn't one

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It's just like once you get to a certain point of like

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I'm not playing ball

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Yeah, the judge takes offense

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You're honestly, you're absolutely right about that

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It's, I don't want to give anybody like the faith of

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Oh, we're, the legal field's doing kumbaya and we're all starting to

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No, no, like you have to understand that this is when

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You know, you go to the Westminster dog show and like a lot of people are going to have

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different opinions on judges of which dog is the nicest dog or whatever

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But if you just bring in a random mutt off the street with mange

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Like they're all going to go, ew, what's going on here?

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Like it doesn't even fit with their schema

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And when you have a defendant who comes in and treats the court

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Like just like as his own personal playground or whatever

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Like you're going to get the same reaction from people

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Yeah, and I think in doing some looking into like past

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examples of people who got hit with default judgments

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Like a lot of times, I think it happens to celebrities who don't want to

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have the unpleasantness of being in court

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Like Kelly's civil case

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Sure

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In a default judgment

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Right

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So I think that Alex's behavior kind of

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You know, it falls into the same sort of like, no, I don't want to do this

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Yeah

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So you've been researching a lot of those cases where celebrities just at one point

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or another decide the only way to win is not play and they just take off and leave

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Right

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What's what's really ironic about Jones's situation is he was there to play

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And he was trying to play whatever game he was going to play

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And it was so abhorrent and offensive to the court

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That even his behavior there, it wasn't

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You just don't see this that much

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You know, we talked about it a bit at these hearings of other cases where it's happened

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under pretty egregious circumstances

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But to see a really a first time we've seen a celebrity high profile case

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end in a default with not just the celebrity walking away

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Oh, yeah, like just not

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Like typically, they'll just not show up

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Yeah, exactly, they'll just not come into court

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Yeah, it is a bit like Alex was invited to play a game of chess and then he was like, wait,

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what if I ate chutes and ladders and shat it on your face?

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Does that count as a game?

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I'm going to mousetrap this, I'm going to set up a little mousetrap here

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I'm going to game a life and over on this side

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It's just there's not even playing the same sport

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Everything past Candyland is too confusing

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I'm playing four dimensional chess and Beatball at the same time

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This is Calvin Ball for god's sake

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I mean, you got to remember he's doing this in two different cases

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In two different places on two slightly different timelines

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And has to keep whatever shell game is happening

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Has to be kept up in both cases on a two to three month lag timeline to stay consistent

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And as you know, like day to day, he's not going to be able to stay consistent

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So what's really bizarre, though, is that you have both sets of cases

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And that the conduct that ended in default judgment was totally separate conduct

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It wasn't that, oh, what happened in Texas?

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And our discovery was so bad that we did stuff up there

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And it was totally different stuff

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And the real irony of it is so much of it is they would discover stuff going on up there

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That's affecting their discovery

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And I'd be like, honestly, I can't even brief that to my court

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Because I'm too busy telling them about the other stuff that's going on in my case

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You can't even keep up with it

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All this stuff you saw about Google Analytics and all the trial balances

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That they brought in some accountant who did a bunch of stuff that's all of that

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I never even got a chance to talk to that about my court

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We were done before that even happened

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And it's stunning that if I hadn't have gotten that default judgment that I got back in September

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There's absolutely no question I'd have it now just because it's unreal

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But yeah, the difference between the two cases is absolutely stunning

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That he has two very different styles of law and he lost them both

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But the behavior, you're saying it's different behavior that caused the default judgment

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But they're like related, they're like family, they're like cousins of each other

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They are cousins

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They are cousins, it's the same sort of obstinateness kind of

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Yes, but it is in Connecticut

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Things work on, I guess when you're in Connecticut and you're having to litigate there

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There's a pretty high set of demands

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You've got to keep the briefs coming in on a really regular period

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They're really regimented, you're showing up at monthly status conferences

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They're actually having to work really hard to try to keep their heads above water in Connecticut

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In Texas, you can go long periods where you're not before the court

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And if you're a bad litigator, you can get yourself into some enormous holes during those periods of time

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And I imagine COVID didn't help also

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Not at all, right

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Yeah, that wasn't good for them either

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But what was stunning about it is in Texas, their transgressions are mostly just an abject

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Not even just a refusal, but just didn't even show up to play kind of ideas of discovery

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They didn't answer the discovery

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The court would order them to do something, they just flat out wouldn't do it

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And then they'd expect to show up in the next hearing and everything would be okay

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In Connecticut, they actually tried to do the stuff

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And that's actually maybe what got them in more trouble

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It just took longer, is that the stuff they did was really absurd

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And so it's really the offense and disrespect in Texas was really something

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But the absolute clown show that was what they tried to fix the situation in Connecticut

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Was maybe even worse

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So in Connecticut, they demanded, I don't know, bank records

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And he gave them a shoe or something

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No, no, look, all I can speak of is from what's in the public pleadings

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What ended up in Connecticut

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But from what is stated in those pleadings, from what I can gather from what is stated there

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Is that they were asked to have their accountant, their QuickBooks person

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Press the button on QuickBooks that produces the subsidiary ledgers

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And all of the financial trial balances for the company

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And then they said, here they are, here's what you gave you

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And then a little bit later on, they discovered

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Because of some weird irregularities in there

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The N-4s had to admit, well, actually we printed that button

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And then we gave it to an accountant

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And then that accountant, well, he said that the figures were misleading

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So he changed the figures

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I believe the technical term for accounting that is cooking them

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And you see those figures

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But now these are accurate figures, the one he gave you

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And they had never disclosed that these accountant had touched this side

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I'd been all over these books

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And like all of a sudden they had been sitting at deposition

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Where they're asking the lady, these are the files that you produced

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So you clicked out of QuickBooks

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She's like, yeah, I think so

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Council's sitting right there

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He knew he gave them to the accountant

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And like nobody says anything

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And I'm just sitting there reading these public records of this

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And just stunned that this stuff's happened

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So I was listening to these hearings about what's going on in there

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I'm like, honestly, like again, the difference between the two forums

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Those guys are lucky they didn't even try to pull that stuff down in Texas

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Because I would have, oh my god

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Your honor, your honor, your honor

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We had all of this money that was covered in like filth and dirt

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So before we gave it to you, we sent it to a washing machine

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I don't understand what the problem is here

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We didn't want to give you dirty money

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It's a problem

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I'm glad you brought that up actually

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Because that was one of Alex's big defenses on his show today

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When he was responding to the default judgment in Connecticut

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It was that, oh, they said I didn't give them bank records

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I gave them a spreadsheet

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So it's interesting to hear that the reality is

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They had changed some numbers

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I gave them a spreadsheet covered in whiteout

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That's the best out

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I mean, and look, I want to make clear too

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Just for people who are listening here

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When I say that I'm reading the public records

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And I'm telling you about what's going on in Connecticut

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Realize one, I don't represent those Connecticut plaintiffs

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But the docket's online

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You can read all the documents

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And when I say I'm reading from public record

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What I'm describing to you about an accountant going out

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And then making the numbers that were misleading turn correct

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That's not taken from the plaintiff's pleadings

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That's taken from Infowars pleadings

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Right, like you read Infowars pleadings

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And that's what they say they did

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And so I don't feel like I'm telling tales out of school or anything

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Like that's literally what they're telling the public they did

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That's a little crime between friends

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Come on, we're all buddies here

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I don't know

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None of that looks above board to me

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Like I don't know exactly what's going on

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But what I do know is at the end of the day

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They just did not produce the things that the court wanted them to produce

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And they can't do that

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Now in Connecticut that seemed to take kind of forever to reach that point

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Because they really do get a lot of procedural safeguards

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In Texas we still have hanging trees outside the courthouse

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Like we still remember

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You don't mess around

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They're not operational

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No we're not using them

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But we don't agree now

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Yet

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Yet

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And like I'm not I'm not kidding

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You go into the Austin courthouse

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You go into like I mean Houston's got a place in a different one now

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But they're not Austin courthouse where he's going to be where I grew up in Fort Bend

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You look outside the direct window of the courthouse you are

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And there is a giant oak tree with a straight you know horizontal branch that's been trained that way

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And that like that brand you know what that is

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Yeah

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And it's this weird imposing legacy of the Texas legal system staring you in the face

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And day to day to day it stares in the face of like

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We're murderers

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We're Texas

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Well I mean that too but also mostly just largely alienated and disenfranchised

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And not people who have the power of the state arrayed against him in perhaps unjust ways

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Sure

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The fact that Alex Jones is gonna have to spend two weeks in that courtroom looking out that window

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Is you know that's a good feeling that he has to be in that courtroom

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Oh I believe it

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It's an imposing place to be

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I don't know if y'all have seen the interior of that place

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Like there is there is aggressive imagery all over that courthouse

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It is a scary courtroom to be in

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Especially especially when you're in a in a disadvantageous situation perhaps

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Yeah when you got default judgment against you and a jury's gonna assess you

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Yeah and I was I was looking into it and it's the the rules in Texas

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If I'm not mistaken are that you have 14 days

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Is that right to like try and get a default judgment put aside

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Ah no you're not not quite right on that

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Okay so you would be correct if the idea was he just didn't answer the lawsuit and I filed

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a default judgment it was entered then he found out and it's he's got 14 days to get up there

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Oh okay

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And say no I want to defend the suit

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He he really only has one for for kind of get inside baseball

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He really only has one appellate option for challenging these default judgments

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And in Texas that's an emergency appeal known as a mandamus

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We have a weird name for it

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And a lousy mandamus

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Right exactly

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I've heard that term used a lot by sovereign citizens

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Sure

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Yes

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A writ of mandamus

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It's one of those like classical 18th century terms that like

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were only involved when ship captains were involved in suit

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Yeah it's weird

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Maritime law

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Yes maritime law stuff

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But but yeah so it's an emergency appeal they don't even necessarily the court

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of appeals doesn't even have to take it up if they don't want to

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It doesn't really stop the case or anything so their appeals options are low

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But they do get a shot at that um that that clock is running out very quickly

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Sure sure I was curious about that because it seemed like

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it would be bizarre it would be bizarre to me if like

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he didn't try and do something like that you know trying to feel

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I mean there is a time limit on it so he's not too great at keeping up with those

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But I think he likes rising too

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That's true that's true

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I mean look this will really shock him I'm gonna be here on time

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Yeah you don't if you're like making a debut at a wrestling

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event you don't want to show up before your cue

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Totally

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You know you gotta you don't want to blow that interest

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Exactly yeah

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And now he's got I mean here's the thing is if he's really thinking about it he

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does have a marked trial set he can this stage it's ready to go and he

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don't want to pull the rug out from under that maybe I don't know

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I think maybe something else in his calculus could be that

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the last time he tried to appeal an adverse ruling in the Hestland case he ended up

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owing me $25,000 for wasting my time so he wants to roll the dice again go for it

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That has the negative stimulus that might be enough to get you to be like

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well maybe not do that again

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I think I think the greatest irony of all is that there's a good chance

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Alex winds up an illegal immigrant in Mexico

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He goes a running

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Yeah I mean how else are you gonna get out of this one

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I mean look you joke about it but as a playoffs attorney you always have to be

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prepared to pursue assets wherever they go and and he wouldn't be the first person to

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run on their judgment like this that's for sure

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I've uh I've liquidated everything and bought a coffee farm in Chiapas

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I can actually picture like a Kim.com situation where it like

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details it down in New Zealand or something and sets up a pirate radio station

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Oh they wouldn't let them in there

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I think it would be closer to a John McAfee situation

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Yeah that's right about it

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Where there's bath salts and a murdered neighbor

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Maybe so

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So one of the things that I wanted to ask you about because I think that

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I find this fairly interesting is that like the Texas cases

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if I understand correctly the defendant in that is all Alex right

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No no so that is not so that's not okay

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So in Texas you have generally three defendants you have

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Jones himself and you have his two companies that are primarily

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again at the time we filed the suit the two companies we thought was primarily

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involved in Infowars which is Free Speech Systems LLC Infowars LLC

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Turns out you get into the suit and even though Infowars LLC's names all over the website as it

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was at that time that company does not exist it's a paper thing it has no employees no revenue no

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assets no nothing as far as we can tell the other entities that are being sued up in Connecticut

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for instance Infowars Health LLC Prison Planet TV LLC also completely paper entities totally

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these were a bunch of entities that were spun off in 2013 right around the time of the divorce

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to try to reorganize the business none of it really seemed to take off I don't really understand

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why but they put every egg in the basket in Free Speech Systems so really in terms of that's really

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it it's Jones and Free Speech Systems so he has some assets personally he has some in a corporate

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form because like everything is under Free Speech Systems right I mean like most of these

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supposedly like I mean it's not well done like like you can't look at a document and say this

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is a subsidiary of Free Speech Systems LLC but they will certainly testify that that is for

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instance Infowars LLC being a subsidiary of instead of like a horizontal affiliate or

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something like that but now it's just basically just one what we call an alter ego it's just all

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Alex Jones it's it's a sham before there's no separation between Jones and his businesses or

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any of the businesses themselves I'm sure that that's not intentional to confuse people

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right surely no that organization uh strategy yeah no it's totally above board business so they

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would never do that yeah but the other defendant in our cases uh that is not up in Connecticut

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which is just delightful is Owen Troyer oh that's right that's right and J. Owen Troyer

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is because he had he went on and said specific things about Neil Huss and went ahead and put his

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his self on the line now that is something I guess I didn't think about did Owen Troyer also

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have a default judgment against him yeah yeah Owen's got a default oh wow okay yeah I think

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that's less talked about wow that should be talked about more shouldn't it yeah I would I would say

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that the non-rich guy getting a summary judgment against him is far more damaging than the very

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rich man getting us I mean look here's the thing though right like okay so what do you what do you

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what do you do to Owen Troyer besides ruin his credit like you don't you don't collect anything

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if he if he owns a home which I'm not sure he does that's going to be a Texas homestead exemption

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you can't go collect that if if he has any non-exempt property I don't know what it would

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be I don't understand him to be a rich guy and and really even you know most rich guys it's kind

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of hard to go so like Owen Troyer the only thing you can do is have a a giant judgment sitting out

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that just ruins his credit and he can never buy a car again like that's really all you can do

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all right if that satisfies you I mean I mean I'll not satisfy my clients I'll live with that

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for now this satisfies Jordan's sense of justice no I mean it doesn't satisfy my sense of judgment

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when you asked what are you going to do to Owen Troyer believe me the answer wasn't ruin his

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credit that was not your hope okay that was not my vote well the fascinating thing too there is

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that like he's facing some possible difficulties about the the sixth from his you know he got in

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trouble from that that's like I don't know if that was a criminal thing but now you know it's yeah

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thing too yeah it's not good not good times shouldn't have destroyed so many cucks I would

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have I would have destroyed six fewer cucks if I were him yeah flew too close to the sun that's

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you know it's funny when you're one of the first questions you gotta you gotta ask the guy when

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you're in deposition with him he's got an author page on infowars and it's like I am it's they

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haven't updated in a while you know so it's like still very much like I am I am most well known for

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my confrontations with Carl the cuck in age skillets to be like all right well be most known

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for that I'm gonna see if I can change that for you Owen he did not show up for a deposition

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correct he did not show up he got sanctioned for that his deposition right now is currently

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scheduled for December 3rd so that should be fun that would be so much fun I feel like I'm getting

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them before the feds do that's the good thing is you know we brought that up in the last period

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we were a little concerned about that you're putting off your deposition forever and he's got

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pending criminal indictment and all that yeah and and the thing is is yeah they've they've been

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for the past three months they've just been on infowars making noise as much as they want would

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not challenge not whatever and they'll finally they get you know a guy like Owen sits down in

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the in the chair and he's gonna have to answer questions I know those will be the last depots

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we take hopefully I would love to see Owen have to sit like in a serious circumstance with adults

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and be asked like so you're the cuck destroyer huh like just see how he defends himself I'm like

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do you think that's childish because I think that uh I just think I just like

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court sonographers happen to type in on their shorthand machines cuck destroyer what's yeah

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that's gonna happen there's been some weird things there's been some very strange things

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that court reporters have never had to type before that

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well Troyer I mean you bring up this good point of like okay you've got this guy who's kind of

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passing himself off as a news anchor right like he's delivering journalism and then like in the

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same breath like you know after the break I go after Carl the cuck or what you know whatever

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it is it's like is he taking his job seriously enough when he's doing Carl the cuck stuff who

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cares but but the moment he starts like making accusations that the you know mass casualty

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surviving father is a ci agent everywhere like does anybody ever have any illusion that anybody's

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taking any of this seriously and Owen Troyer proves to you no they do not nobody's taking this

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seriously yeah he's he's an interesting like sort of middle case too because like you know he

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started in St. Louis doing like sports journalism yeah I thought he was going to be a barstool guy

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right yeah and so there's a decent chance that he might have some pretension about like what

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he's doing as being sort of journalistically relevant but then that path never really worked

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out and he only really got success by yelling at Carl the cuck yeah and then Alex being like this

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is fun I'm gonna hire this guy so it's weird he actually came on my radar I mean he came on my

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radar when oh gosh the chick in the sailor moon costume who told him about Venezuela oh yeah

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dasha yeah the red scare chick so yeah so I I that's how he like came on to my radar is he's

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that guy and then and then like I you constantly just see videos of like 12 year old kid destroys

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Owen Troyer yeah there was that child who I told him to fuck off yep so I just thought he was a

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ridiculous guy and it was weird that when I got these cases I understood a little bit about

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enter wars and so I kind of knew who was in the sandy hook and you know and I knew that was Rob

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Dew and that whole crew and Darren Mcgreen all those guys but like the idea that Owen Troyer

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showed up in it to me was like what like you're the comedy guy and he wasn't even like working

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for them in that relevant most of that period exactly probably in high school because yeah he

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comes in in 2016 so like when he's doing these things in 2017 it's weird though because he

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becomes sort of in Jones's hatchet man for this Jones knows he can't talk about the family

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specifically so if he wants to talk about the families he sends Owen Troyer out to do it the

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Owen Troyer does the thing about no hustle not holding this kid he does the video about Erica

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Lafferty and confronting her yeah I don't know if I've seen that video but but Troyer just goes off

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about I don't understand what your problem is ma'am you know I don't understand why you're not

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listening to men like Wolfgang Halbig and Jim Fetzer who've done the most reliable reporting

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possible on this event and I don't know why you're trying to butt heads of people who are

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trying to figure out what happened to your mom what the heck I think that is I think a lot of

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that could be you know slightly motivated by trying to prove that he belongs in that

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space like that Alex Jones info wars space yeah I mean he's he's been very clearly on that path

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of like I want to please daddy so much so that I will never be able to buy a car again well and

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you know the the English guy threw him under the bus so now I can replace the English guy you know

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that's probably totally yeah like I don't I he is an interesting case and and people aren't talking

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about him enough in this suit because he is he's Jones's protege and and people don't realize that

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that he just got on and did those marching orders and did those things and he's just as much a part

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of all of this yeah it's one of the things that we've kind of looked at over the course of us

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doing the podcast is like who is the heir apparent like who is the person who's supposed to do this

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after Alex has a heart attack or uh crashes his any number any number of possible ways for him

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to die what happens and it always seemed like Paul Joseph Watson but at some point he seemed to want

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to distance himself a bit and 100 kind of clearly Owen yeah and that was a disappointing point yeah

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for pretty much everybody you know when I came on this case I was probably less busy so I was

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better in touch with right-wing online media but like I said the last couple of years too I'm just

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who can stomach it right no offense to you guys like for instance I haven't been keeping up with

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Paul and seeing what Paul Watson's career looks like right now and and how much it's still part

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of info wars and what he's trying to carve out for himself but it seemed like that's what he was

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doing in some way and I I figured he was going to be on the level of like a pin Shapiro he's gonna

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like he's gonna eventually be that kind of figure and it's I don't know he's up to now I think what

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he started this site called summit.news that was basically just like a you know news blog kind of

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thing with a bunch of basically another gateway pundit you know yeah but I think his mistake

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might have been getting too involved in like some European politics and some British stuff like

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uh Nigel Farage and uh those folks I think he got pretty hard in the UKIP uh yeah yeah that killed

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his creds over there yeah I think I think it at least slowed him down like kind of was a speed

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bump so I think he's much less relevant uh no that's interesting and you know while we were

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on this case you could also see another heir apparent trying to develop themselves and Robert

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Barnes was trying to oh he was giving it a go yeah he was really giving it a go I don't know

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if you uh I've never seen a man like so desperate for like online engagement and like just to have

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like the rambling clapping seals of right-wing twitter just clap for any crap he pretends he's

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doing but like the idea that you haven't able to like successfully monetize that into making

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yourself a star like just give it up by now because I swear it's it's the right-wing grift

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right now is so easy I saw not to like completely change the subject but I saw Alex Berenson the

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covid misinfo guy had started a sub stack and the dude's gonna he's bringing in a million a year on

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that sub stack just like blogging three times a week about covid misinfo and if you're Robert

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Barnes how can you work this hard and not be like just the I don't know well I think I think Barnes

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fucked up uh because he uh obviously couldn't make a Patreon and so he tried to get on uh locals I

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think is the name of it the uh Ben uh not bad Dave Shapiro uh not that Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson

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uh a Patreon clone intellectual dark web Patreon yeah yeah and I don't I don't think that's as uh

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as lucrative there's there is something nice about how easy the right-wing grift is is how easy you

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should know when to quit you know like if you fail within your first month just give up you've

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already failed forever yeah exactly yeah exactly but you know he did it was weird to see and I

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always wonder about that with Barnes of like you're hosting Infowars constantly while you're

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representing this case and then all of a sudden you get like your own show yeah and he's like

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he's seriously like he had his own show for a while and like where'd that go like it got

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canceled because Alex couldn't afford the other shit on Infowars like some of this new this I

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think of some new guy like some of the stuff and I'm like it's not like I mean I'm not praising Robert

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Barnes here but like it like that's that's some of your best compelling stuff like what do you have

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better than that like like if that isn't cooking it for you then something must be really wrong

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because there's just not they have a lot on offer and again it does go to show that Infowars is Alex

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Jones it always will be Alex Jones without Alex Jones there is in no Infowars yeah 100% about

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the fascinating personality and craziness that underlies all of that and everybody knows it

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by fascinating personality of course you mean very well researched information

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Barnes well you know my mom raised me on people like Gore Vidal and some of those great debates

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of the 1950s and 60s where William F Buckley would get in there and you can't help watch

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Alex Jones and not really feel shades of that you know yes high-minded yeah good stuff

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and back to Barnes really quick another thing as as that was all happening like him ascending

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in Infowars and being Alex's lawyer me and Jordan were both like Alex he's trying to take over

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that's what I was thinking yeah he's trying to become seriously he's literally watching you go

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down in court I mean like presiding over you loved it and he loved it he was doing it you're

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absolutely right until you got scared of the courtroom and never came back oh why would you

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ever go back it's a terrible idea you're gonna feel bad Texas with the hanging tree outside

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heck yeah exactly hot water you high tail it out of there it's of course he hightailed it out of

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there yeah I thought I was like Alex look out behind you like it's not good if somebody who's

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clearly wanting to become like an on-air personality talent is also the person who

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gets paid more the longer you're in court yeah yes working a little against purposes you presume

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and you can never presume this about the law you presume that he's getting paid by the hour to be

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in court and not paid by paid in shows true you know what I mean like you don't know how those

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things work I mean it's yeah but if you want to diversify your revenue stream you also get a tv

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show on top of your law practice this is better call Saul all over again buddy this is what we're

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doing tv show is very generous that is a very generous way of describing it um yeah we also I

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mean look this is honestly this is a guy a lawyer who has on his website like a donate give me money

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to go super people or something I'm like what the what what is this like I don't like I came into

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this world I came from a world I'm a kind of weird guy but I came from a world of kind of like

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you know regular lawyers who do things the regular way even though we're like absolute pirates and

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going after who we go after but like we when we came to these people and saw like yeah here's just

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a guy who's just like hey crowd send me money and crowdfund me to to be like that's not how law

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works so what are you doing I accept donations in bitcoin yeah it's that stuff I don't uh it is

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strange but I guess it works I mean it must that's that's the thing yeah wherever wherever there

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aren't slap lawsuit laws I think he's he's he's there he's the batman of states that don't have

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slapped it's really interesting because he tried to come into this lawsuit and portray himself as

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a first amendment hero to be anti you know I'm gonna take out these slaps just that we're facing

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and this is like and then like every little other thing I've ever seen him do is go to a state

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without a slap law and file some crazy suit against it him and uh him and norm pattice are

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two of the most important constitutional lawyers that have ever practiced according to alex right

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like I've heard that yeah you know I mean really as you've known from the from the from the hearings

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the elephant in the room has been mark randonzo this whole time like yeah the other like weird

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guy who's like branded himself a first amendment lawyer who kind of came out of uh I mean like at

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first he was very much an anti-first amendment lawyer in a way of like working for porn companies

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to go after people who are posting their porn videos online and stuff like that and then like

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kind of like switch gears off without even a bunch of stuff happened in that and you read all about

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that online but then he he he switched into like I'm now a first amendment crusader but it's it's

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weird how every single like anytime you see oh moran is involved in that like you like oh I

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understand what the defendant's going to be like then it's not great I can look not great yeah no

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and look I can understand like I okay let's go let's say I was going to be some first amendment

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defense lawyer which I'm not I'm a plaintiff's lawyer but like if I was going to be a defense

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lawyer on that front I would be proud to to list on my resume a nazi that I represented right or

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like a kkk guy right and like I'm in there defending his free speech rights and principally

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not like doing a bunch of underhanded stuff to do it but like sure and maybe maybe I'd even be proud

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if I had like one or two or even three nazis or if I had four nazis or five nazis or something like

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that but like once you start getting above that number like now you're just a nazi lawyer your

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number for nazis is way higher than my number for nazi weird cavalcade of people around this guy and

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so that that that's what honestly was like through my switch about mark and nonza getting involved in

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these cases yeah but as you'll see from like the recent stuff in front of the court when we

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discovered what his professional history really is when when we discover the things that he has

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done in his career all of a sudden like it stopped being about like this guy seems weird maybe hangs

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around nazis too much like this guy seems like a genuine menace to us like could potentially

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be really dangerous in this courtroom and so we brought a bunch of briefing about that um and and

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our court said no margarine dansa cannot come anywhere near the state of texas courtroom it

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will not happen and now there is they have actually launched an appeal on that like they

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you gotta understand the default judgments have been entered they haven't appealed those yet

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but margarine dansa is appealing already that's super that's super important we need margarine

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dansa in the in this right i guess but actually that's what's going to be occupying the next bit

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of the party's times is that and so all of that and i know some of y'all follow this case here

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um um that's all will be online at the court of appeals website just follow along so they're

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they're trying to appeal margarine dansa being allowed to be involved in the next stages of

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exactly case they could come defend them during these last stages exactly yeah i mean that's the

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last thing they've got look here's the other development sort of since last we spoke sort

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of thing sure and i can talk about this now because this is public record this is in the

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case in the case files you can go look at it but as some of your viewers know we represent a young

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man and who was accused of being the shooter in parkland and totally falsely and and jones has

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had a different lawyer in that case he's had a he's had a long time corporate lawyer who's been

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in that case guy named eric tau has represented him that appeared for all three years like in the

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infowars cases we've had now we're up to the seventh lawyer but in parkland it's been just

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that one lawyer the entire time i've seen tau's name like uh like historically like he's been

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around with alex's stuff for quite a while exactly he's the person who came up with all these

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corporate forms that we were talking about corporate guy like he arranged all of that

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um and and so his name's on all that stuff so he's been around for age for that you know

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maybe more than a decade i don't know um well in the midst of the fontaine case real recently after

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these default judgments and some other things went down eric tau moved to withdraw as his council

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and filed a motion with the court saying um i can't tell you why because attorney client

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communication i can't tell you why but my continued representation would force me to

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violate the texas disciplinary rules of conduct and violate my ethical duties nobody knows what

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that means nobody has any idea what the conflict is what the unethical thing that he would be

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forced to do is what you know there's you could speculate a million different ways under the sun

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but from attorney client we don't know all we know is something's rotten in denmark in terms of that

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relationship oh yeah and he withdrew now in the fontaine case they have no lawyer um we'll see

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what happens when you say we don't know what that means i disagree we know exactly what that means

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we just don't know specifically what it means your honor uh alex requires me to wear parachute pants

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every time i go to the courtroom i cannot ethically do that let me give you like a super

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like a super benign one right that i don't think it is that this would be like a super benign one

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right like if i'm representing a client and i've been representing them for three years or whatever

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in the suit and then all of a sudden i really i find out for some reason that that that that

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client and who he's suing is actually somebody i used to represent right like like i'm like let's

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say i sue infowars right or something like that or let's just make it really easy right like like

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i sue you want you come to me and you want to sue target and i'm representing you're suing target

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and then somewhere in the suit i reckon i realized oh shit i used to represent target but i didn't

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know that because they must add a different name they must have been named something different back

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then that could give you that would lead to the same result right now i can no longer ethically

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represent it the deal about that is is you'd be able to disclose that because like your

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representation of target like that's all public and stuff this is something inside the relationship

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something that deals with the attorney client relationship itself and therefore nobody knows

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like you know it deals with that relationship you know that there's something ethical going on there

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but nobody really knows what it is your honor your honor i would like to withdraw uh alex just

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watched better call saul and he's got some ideas i do not like it oh well the thing that the thing

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that typically comes up like we've been about would be um i this client asked me to do something

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six months ago and i thought it was all above board when it happened and i've recently discovered

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facts that say that's not above board and now i i can't if i would need to reveal it or leave

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one of the two has to happen if you won't let me reveal it then have to leave a law school example

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so we don't know if that kind of conflict exists or not we don't know and so it's just so strange

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to be in this case so i don't even have opposing counsel on one of the cases right now it's but

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that's that i mean that's something that's got to develop i think actually alex has said that

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that case is already he already beat that one according to his public statements on his show

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i believe if your lawyer quits you win right this is not how it works if you suck so hard your own

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lawyer quits the government is like there's nothing we can do yeah you want his feeling

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on that one look you've got to say what is what his argument there is is that that suit is against

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free speech systems kit daniels and the company because kit daniels is the one alex jones never

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didn't like pre-approve his article or get on and say something about parkland so alex jones isn't

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individually right but it's it's infowars and kit daniels are our defendants there so i was like

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hey i'm free but hey all your money is next door at the studio on south lamar like no no no it's

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all kit daniels throw him yeah yeah independent contractor literally never met the guy before

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honestly yeah would i hire someone named kit please that's a cool name i don't know like an

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old-timey western hero it's awesome that's why i think alex would take offense to it you can't have

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an old-timey western hero that's not alex man yeah that's true i have a couple more questions

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i wanted to run by you if that's all right uh the first one was and this is more of sort of

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like a personal uh sort of sense did this come as a surprise to you it seems like it did the

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the default judgment in the connecticut case uh no no i don't think it did okay no no let me put

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it this way i've known that that default judgment was coming in connecticut prior for about three

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four months like that seemed pretty obvious to me that that's where they were heading yeah they

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were i mean look it's it's it's really it's i'm not Nostradamus i'm just looking behind me you know

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what i mean like i know where we've been i know where they're going and i see the orders they're

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getting and i'm like i remember being there and and so like i know where they're going and they're

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just going right in our wake it's the same place there's nothing like you said there's nothing too

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different about it it it did surprise me i guess it what really surprised is that once they were

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in super hot water in texas that they didn't wise up a little bit and change their tactics a little

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bit both in texas and connecticut to mitigate the damage in texas and not have this happen in

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connecticut that is surprising after the summer after what i've seen i'm not surprised what's

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happened now not at all yeah yeah i guess i guess the the the thing i guess you were saying was more

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surprising is that it's a different thing that got them in trouble there yeah then in texas yeah

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there's just there's just so much that it's like wow like they still had more in the more powder to

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burn like most people couldn't get default judgments against them for anything and they

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have to do for time yeah they have to really give it a try i mean it's not an easy thing to do

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and so yeah i don't think i was really surprised i was surprised when i didn't get it in 2019 because

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i really thought i deserved it in 2019 i thought what they did was just ridiculous but i understood

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what was going on there like we give them a chance on appeal we give them their whatever and if they

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come back and they decide they're gonna play nice give them another chance when they came back after

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appealing this summer and then things just were just a mess just falling apart i knew something

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was up then when they had the whole thing up in connecticut where they released uh the playoffs

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information to try to depose kellery clinton and all the weirdness i was like okay like any idea

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that this was going to go normal that's gone so there's only one way it can go the the water can

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only roll one day wait on this hill and so i knew where it was going sure what i it's interesting i

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think i said to god today obviously you can imagine reporters just calling me off the hook and i think

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i said to one reporter i always knew we were gonna beat jones i just didn't think it would happen in

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this ridiculous of a fashion does it feel deflating a little bit that it is it's actually

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kind of infuriating on something and part of it is that the case is so obviously meritorious

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that you don't need the default judgment you don't need it it's it's it's ridiculous like like

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so and when jones has the default judgment it allows him to point back to it say i got

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railroad this old kangaroo i was never found guilty yeah this is all just you know and so it

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does deflate from the importance of it but i think on the other end there's the there's the other end

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that it is almost kind of poetic that it demonstrates like what an absolute ridiculous character is that

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he won't even participate in these suits right or respect the family's ability to have their day in

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court against him yeah none of that even happened it is almost fitting of like yeah this does show

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it's almost even proves our case like i will die a weasel like you can't even you can't even

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participate in the lawsuit without being completely malicious like yeah there's that that elevates it

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but i am you're right it sucks yeah but there isn't going to be a full out like everything's

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in the hand of 12 jurors and you can never point anybody but them yeah i think i think maybe some

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cold comfort is that you know you can really look at this as as him being basically a coward and not

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being willing to engage with this process for what you can only assume is probably a keen awareness

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that he was not going to win this no he's going to very much lose and you know i think that

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masculinity and bravado is such an important thing to him and just sort of being able to look at this

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and be like well you couldn't even stand up and and face uh responsibility and prove yourself

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right if you are if you were right i mean i think i think the largest problem though is it seems

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very clear to me that once the case was brought and his lawyers actually spoke to him he was

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essentially like okay i've lost and so what i managed to do is ring the end of the fucking

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democracy out of it uh for an extra few years i mean i think that's look it's it's a good theory

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but the problem with that is is that i really think that jones was led astray by some really

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bad legal counsel in this case i feel like some people came in and told him you are gonna win

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you're gonna be a larry flint hero at the supreme court if you don't and you are gonna win and we're

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gonna vindicate this for you and they they feed his own bs back to him and say yeah this is all

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globalist shows are coming out i know two people who have said that to him on air

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also please do not fill in an amount for this check yeah that is it's it's very interesting

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that they have strung him along on this idea that he doesn't have to play fair i mean i'm not look

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when we deposed him and some of the stuff we asked him about discovery and and i really do feel some

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of it was honestly yes i just turned this over to the lawyers that's why we went after the lawyers

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on those bits um but i think they really did at some point the worm started to turn that the only

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way that these lawyers could convince him that their series of failures wasn't due to really bad

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potentially actionable things on jones behalf like like if if you understand jones has the right to

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bring malpractice actions against his attorneys right like if if there was that was a thing he

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can do that if he thinks that there was malpractice done in the way his case was done i think we have

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a next chapter right the story the i think what seems to be from what we see how the court

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proceedings played out is that they convinced him that no this wasn't a result of the court

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they convinced him that no this wasn't a result of anything that we've done wrong it's because

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the system is rigged against you and you're in a kangaroo court and this is a show trial i don't

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from my position knowing like from everything i can tell based on my hours of listening to him

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i don't think anyone needed to convince him of that yeah yeah like that there's a conspiracy

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against him no but i really think that event at the beginning he thought that he was going to win

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he was going to go into these courts and he was going to prove himself right he was going to

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embarrass me and the globalist and all of that i mean at the very beginning of the case he thought

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he was going to collect money from the parents like like that's how bad it was wild he really

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did think that for a while he he was he was relishing watching me fall on my face that was

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something he could not wait to see happen and when it didn't happen and when every time his

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attorneys came back to him and said you owe more money now you have to pay because we owe more

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attorney's fees now then they just convinced him you're getting railroaded it's not that we're

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doing anything wrong it's you're getting railroaded and then that's what caused him

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after these default judgments to just and why i feel kind of free to speak out like this is

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because he just spent days on his show saying that our judge was like you know satanic cannibal with

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the globalist pedophile pizzagate people or whatever and and and like has now just done

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the worm's turn he's like now you just don't play now i'm just not participating i'm not going to

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play these people's games and so from here on out i'm just expecting it to be a just an absolute

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circus i don't think anything's going to happen normally from here till trial yeah he his

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prediction today was that he's going to get uh default judgment in the second stage of the case

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as well but he also is claiming that he's not being allowed to participate in the uh this phase

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this penalty phase i'd be happy for him to participate in whatever way he would like to

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i would love for him to be that was my sense of it yeah i'd love for him to participate man then

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it seems like it was his choice oh that's the that's the radio version of the hold me back

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hold me back right yeah yeah please please hold me back yeah no i mean that's why i have to push

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back on this stuff why i have to come out and like again i'm doing part of the reason why i like to

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come on your show i know it's weird and i know we cuss and we say weird stuff and maybe we're

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a little bit you know different than normal mainstream media but the problem is is like

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mainstream media is really bad about getting these stories wrong and they're really bad about just

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taking whatever they want and using it to do their agendas and jones will use that too so i do like to

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use this kind of forum to say the things that are being said about the conduct of the attorneys about

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the conduct of the court about the conduct of the plaintiffs they're all it's bullshit none of it's

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true like it's very loudly like it's not true yeah and and it's it's so disrespectful to see a person

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who has already gone through all of these links and and then now gets these orders against them

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and is now just like no that's that's lost like i can't i have to get on here and tell you like

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these things that are being said by jones out of his mouth are simply not true well i think you're

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preaching to the choir right but but look my words travel from here right like there are people

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people watch this shit and then it's not just the people you think right like like they're my my

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words are kind of being watched a little bit and and and when i go out on to say if i was to go on

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msnbc and try to fit what i'm trying to say there it would be butchered to hell but but when i'm

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here with you guys i think i can say the realities of what the public record shows and and that i've

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had to sit by and watch him get on his his show and say the most insane things about this case

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that it feels liberating to be able to now say that those things aren't true and so that

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this is a record and people will take my words down so i'm glad that would be for posterity

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well and we definitely appreciate you uh being willing to offer that perspective and uh come

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talk with us like it's it means a lot um i i had one more question if that's all right before we

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we were running on and i'm sure i know like we just ramble when we get on again

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i was curious if there are any consequences that he might be facing in connecticut that are

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different than the possibility of what he could be facing in texas or if they're both financial

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no they're both financial but i mean the one difference is texas contempt laws are a little bit

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harsher texas can just send you a jail if you're an asshole too often yeah exactly yeah yeah

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yeah judges do imprison people from time to time when they do things that are wrong

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that happens less up in connecticut um but yeah we're basically looking at the same kinds of

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of judgments and ritz of garnishment ritz of attachment so yeah it is all just basically

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a monetary penalty and just like i guess assets wrapped up in that too like yeah okay yeah yeah

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and ultimately the ability to levy against the corporation itself and all of that and like like

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there's there's a lot of there's a lot of heavy-handed stuff you can do to enforce the

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judgment i i mean what you've described so far though i cannot imagine the nightmare after all

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of the legal aspects are over just that like okay let's apportion what it is that we need to give to

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people through two different courts through two different lawsuits through multiple plaintiffs

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through all of this stuff they're going to have to find a really really evil accountant to get out

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of some of that shit i think i know we're gonna have to and we're gonna have to find some uh

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some pretty aggressive accountants on the other side yeah yeah totally it's it's it's gonna be

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like csi accounting you know what i mean like it's gonna be some stuff like that and so that

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that'll be interesting i mean who knows how long this will last of course because you totally

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verdict and so we'll have to see where that goes there's not that's the interesting thing

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he always thought he'd go up to the supreme court and have some great first amendment appeal

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it's not gonna how dare you sir can't happen now i mean he can go up and he can appeal i wasn't

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that disrespectful like i wasn't that much of a contemptuous litigant like and that's never gonna

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work so he really doesn't have an appeal it's so it is you're right that we when you're talking

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about like oh it's champagne time yeah when you have both sets of cases defaulted and therefore

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you know it neither of them was a fluke so they're not getting overturned yeah turkey's done it feels

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like the uh appeal avenue he could have would be like taking it to the supreme court whether or

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not people can have default judgments yeah exactly whether that's an allowable legal concept but that

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seems like an impossible thing for him to engage in and i don't think he would win that no and i

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mean like why would you at that point i mean at some point you're gonna close up shop and figure

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out yeah just pouring good money after bad so i i don't know what's gonna happen well you know i

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know we're working you know i want to say that the only thing i know is we're gonna go to a trial of

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12 peers i don't know that that's happening do you know that there might just be a piece of paper

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well alex has sworn that he's going to keep going no matter what even if uh he loses all his money

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he will continue the info war love it uh and i look forward to that i look forward to the

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possibility of us having uh more high tech that would be fun yeah that would be nice uh well mark

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thank you so much for joining us i think we should probably we've been i feel like it's been about an

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hour and a half and i feel like yeah it's been a long darn time longer than i anticipated but i

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i've had a great time you know what look and chop it up like you want to do it you don't have to

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play the whole hour like power and a half but like you you want to let the tape run let the tape run

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but uh i think i think our audience particularly likes long episodes oh yeah so i have no problem

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with that they they yell at me when it when we stopped having episodes that were like three hours

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long so i don't know they're weirdos guys thank you so much mark oh yeah i'll be back look this

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is a ongoing thing we got to keep it up so i can't wait for the next update love it we'll figure it

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out all right have a good one all right now that the 1998 and uh conversation with mark bankston is

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out of the way sure i feel like i'm in an emotional place where i can actually get to this

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i'll do it we'll talk about we'll talk about november 15th i think you have to leave the

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studio i don't think you have i think you're just too mad to talk about this i mean i'm sorry but

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they it's not the crew's fault dan yeah so uh we start here on the 15th and alex is concerned uh

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that uh patriots are getting jammed up except for kyle writtenhouse everyone that has stood up to

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the globalist deep state is being indicted they're being swat teamed they're being denied trial by

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juries they're being imprisoned this is the weaponization of the judiciary in this country

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there's still pools of honorable people in the judiciary like you're seeing in the kenosha

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case with the judge there who's actually doing a fair trial but in all the sorrows controlled zones

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like austin texas and uh new haven connecticut you see naked corruption mafia level organized crime

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in my view from the judiciary just just complete lawlessness and here's a great example of that

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overhead shot police on this november 15th monday transmission look at this headline out of the

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associated press alex jones loses lawsuit over sandy hook hoax conspiracy yeah i wonder why he

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chose those two specific cities for where uh the globalists have really taken over dan i don't know

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not sure uh some of the examples of the patriots who are getting jammed up are pretty fun too

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because it's james o'keefe because he got raided sure and uh he already committed a felony too

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true uh and then steve bannon getting indicted yeah and i just think that's really funny that

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alex would put steve bannon in that group because he hates bannon hates bannon he hates him yeah

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basically called for his death well i mean who's not calling for anybody's death these days

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it's such a traitor and now it's like patriots are getting jammed everywhere people are framing

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steve bannon for shit that he definitely didn't do that i said he did i'm so furious that he's

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stolen the name war room for his podcast but also he's a great man standing up he's a hero stands

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up to the globalist can't stand him he's the devil and himself very confusing uh but whatever you

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have to do in order to make your own victimhood uh being you know losing these cases by default

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judgment sure uh you have to fit it into a larger narrative and that's a perfect way to do it so

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so alex is uh i think he's trying to pretend that he didn't actually lose these cases which is fun

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interesting look at this headline out of the associated press alex jones loses lawsuit over

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sandy hook hoax conspiracy now what really happened this came out again

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back in october the last default in austin now it's november default there but before

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i show you this what's happening in connecticut father of sandy hook victim

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wins defamation lawsuit against alex jones that's from two thousand

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and nineteen now did i lose the suit it says a father a victim of the sandy hook elementary

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massacre has one defamation lawsuit against the authors of a book that claimed the shooting never

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happened and it goes on to say i've lost the suit i'm not in the book i didn't lose that suit didn't

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happen we contacted ap they said sue us we're not changing it that's the level here if anyone wants

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to understand what's going on against info wars that we deal with so that market that's a market

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watch headline it wasn't the associated press nobody talked about this a hundred times exhaustively

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um but if you're listening to this let me see if this is the tone you're getting from this

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there are headlines that i lost these cases now right in the present day right but also

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they've lied about me losing cases in the past so maybe this is meant to sort of imply that they're

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lying now right did i lose the cases they've lied about the cases before that feels like the only

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interpretation that you could have to him bringing up this other headline yeah to discuss the current

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headline i mean i guess the other thing that he's trying to say is that it's like a propaganda thing

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to make you feel like he's a loser or something i have no idea what he's saying other than maybe i

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won yeah that's that's the sense i get which makes it so confusing when he immediately says this i

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didn't lose that suit didn't happen we contacted ap they said sue us we're not changing it that's

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the level here if anyone wants to understand what's going on against info wars that we deal

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with now this didn't happen two and a half years ago the thing in texas and the thing in connect

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today did happen wait what then why what then why'd you bring it up i don't understand what

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the point is here now sometimes they lied maybe i didn't lose these cases but this time this time

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they did not lie i lost these fucking cases gotta be honest they're straight up i lost

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these i'm a big i'm a big loser on this one i'm gonna take a big l put it on the forehead

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i just was so confused by like what even are you trying to get at here i i i can usually

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suss out like what the point is it's it's almost like a nervous tic like he just has to bring up

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some what aboutism yeah and that was the only thing that came to mind or something that is just

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meant to be a roadblock yeah red herring yeah so in this next clip alex discusses that default

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judgments like uh the ones he's uh been uh subject to are rare true alex jones guilty by default in

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all sandy hook defamation suits wow by default that's a new thing huh no that's only if somebody

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doesn't show up to the court or depositions or any of it do you have those they're very rare but

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they're not rare now i was reading the news just for you especially in california democrats more

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and more just do that the judges just do that if they want to get you politically they just

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they don't care what you do they just say you haven't given them everything they ask for things

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that don't exist like give us the sandy hook marketing we don't have that yeah we know you

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you do yeah i i need a source on this uh democrats in california are defaulting democrats in california

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you're just defaulting people because they turn railroads you damn it's political they're just

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defaulting so alex is correct that default judgments are uncommon but that's just you know

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because most people accept their responsibility to take part in legal proceedings we're in a

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functioning society typically you know like if you are innocent you'll want to be able to have

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your day in court to prove your innocence absolutely your accuser etc sure if you're guilty i guess

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you probably don't want to go to court but you have a responsibility to it's either go to court

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either go to court or run sure or or i guess just drag your feet i mean i guess dragging your feet

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was an option for murder cases all along yeah but even though this is rare uh it's not like

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default judgments never happen and alex should be super aware of this since his buddy john mccaffee

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had a default judgment against him in the civil case regarding his neighbor in belize who was

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murdered forcing a default judgment is one of the preferred strategies of high profile people who

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don't want to have to engage with the legal system in civil cases like r kelly and cuba gooding jr did

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it's not hard to think that alex is refusing to cooperate with the discovery process because he

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has something he really doesn't want to be public like the exact nature of his finances or sources

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of funding there's probably a good chance he knew he was going to lose these cases if they ever went

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to trial so if you're going to lose anyway why not protect your business secrets and simultaneously

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create a situation where you can claim you weren't actually found guilty this is a good pr strategy

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but it probably won't matter and it doesn't affect the real world right he's gonna be on the hook for

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so much money and it's already too late generally for him to do all that much about it yeah he might

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be able to get some kind of appeals going but that's not gonna go anywhere doubtful you already

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you already spent the last uh four years dragging this out so much so that people went through an

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entire fucking president to get you i'm really interested to see what happens uh throughout this

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case but like i think pretty much all of his legal avenues are exhausted and like we talked with mark

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like there's the possibility that he could like want to challenge the validity of default judgment

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sure but i don't think that would work i think it's a waste of time and honestly like i don't know

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like who would be in favor of that i mean from what i understand appellate judges are somehow

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even more uh uh unconcerned with human life than most other judges so like them getting two two

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judges in two different states having to send them cases that they default judged uh upon an

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appeals court is gonna be like we got we gotta take this one up i need to wait another three

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years for for me to handle this shit yeah it seems incredibly unlikely yeah the process is

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gonna be uh fun to watch or at least interesting so alex says something really gross now he hardly

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ever even talked about sandy hook but you know what i'm gonna be talking about it now is it's

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dealing with the system trying to kill the first amendment you know they tried to use sandy hook

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to get the second amendment and now they're trying to use it to get the first amendment

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and i don't really know what happened there there were a lot of anomalies a lot of issues

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a lot of issues but i didn't know the school shootings do actually happen i just know they're

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not my fault you don't know what really happened when you think about sandy hook you think about

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the name alex jones ladies and gentlemen and that's just branding and brainwashing and propaganda

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that's such a disgusting expression of alex's out of control narcissism like how dare he be so

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self-centered that he thinks that when you hear the word sandy hook the first thing you think of

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is him i study for alex for a living and he's not even the first thing i think of when i think of

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sandy hook he's just an absolute monster who can't experience anything in life unless it revolves

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around himself and it honestly kind of makes me sad because ultimately what you end up realizing

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is that there's a fair amount of people in the world who base their political beliefs on what

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they think is researched information but it's really just the product of alex's moody narcissistic

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outbursts yeah and that's really a bummer yeah i mean that millions of people have allowed their

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reality to be shaped by a narcissistic out of control man-child is probably bad yeah but have

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you considered what would it be like if uh everybody was rational and reasonable i mean

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obviously if everybody was rational we would be murdering each other in the streets she would be

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a lot more boring i think if everybody was rational that's definitely true uh but hey

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it sucks yeah because you know what you think of when you think of sandy hook uh family's grieving

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yeah the complete tragedy of the event they don't think about alex jones and him having the gall to

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say i don't really know what happened there at this point in time a lot of people have told you

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very specifically what happened there oh yeah and what you got very wrong oh yeah this is yeah uh

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a lot of bullshit wow so alex has a prediction about the uh next phase of his trials now that

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he's lost all of them by default judgment sure um and he can make this prediction come true on his

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own now a jury will decide how guilty you are and folks they're gonna double default you understand

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that they're gonna double default i told the lawyers this years ago they're gonna double

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default and not even let me be at the trial to decide how guilty i am this is a joke it's beyond

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a kangaroo trial it's beyond a show trial it's all a ridiculous fraud and boy are they going to

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be freaked out to learn i've spent more money fighting this than i'll probably ever make after

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this i don't even care about the money so they can't get blood out of a stone and they're not

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gonna shut my show down so good luck the ceo of pfizer just came out and said that people talking

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bad about the vaccines are working for quote dark forces why do you do what's this commercial why

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does this commercial sound like you're drunk yes the ceo of pfizer sorry sorry about this

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sound on this commercial i just woke up what is going on it's like you can do two takes it's three

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in the morning he's recording on a fucking cell phone what is happening i mean also i know for

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a fact that you have a standing invitation to that courtroom yeah that is a creep voice yeah i

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just want to talk more about that commercial oh i can't i can't if i think about it too much i

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think about him he's in my ears dan i'm wearing headphones yeah i want to sell you x2 oh no so

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alex will probably end up getting double defaulted in this case but again it's going to be his fault

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if he does the next phase of the trial is about determining what is a fitting financial penalty

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and if alex doesn't cooperate with discovery on this part by like by refusing to turn over

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the appropriate financial documents he can fuck around and get another default judgment

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he won't if he cooperates though he has every ability to he has every opportunity to uh again

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no one can shut down alex's show except himself and he can talk big all he wants but i have

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absolutely zero doubt that he would quit if he didn't have the flashy studio the weird pill line

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that he runs himself the ability to travel wherever he wants and buy things like tanks

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the ability to pay a staff to gather headlines for him and work out all the technical aspects

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of the show he would quit in a second if he didn't have those things he would be losing essentially

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all of the things that allow him to pretend to be a legitimate show and sets him apart from any dumb

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asshole on youtube who makes videos about how vaccines are evil he'd be the washed up guy who

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had his time and he didn't get anything done the hungry young buck conspiracy theorists would

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probably resent him trying to take up space in their world siphoning off attention and possible

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donations that could be going to them yep personally i hope he does continue to do the show even if he

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goes broke just because you know someone who watches the show i think would be a fascinating

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narrative arc i don't think it's gonna happen though i just don't think alex has the humility

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to go back to being a diy guy no absolutely not and imagine him trying to do it by himself

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mm-hmm get the fuck out of here it makes me think of steve pacenik and how his wife has to turn on

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the record right totally she has totally she has to handle the computer for him if i was if i was

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rex and i was looking at the looking at the tea leaves i'd be like i gotta get out of here otherwise

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i am going to be working on infowars 2.0 with my fucking dad for the rest of my life dad i need my

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inheritance now now and i'm gonna flee the country prior to the judgments being handed out yeah

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yeah i i i think it's i do agree i mean like no one can stop his show except for himself

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it's just a matter of you know what you're willing to accept sure standard of living you're willing

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to accept uh doing things for no money are you willing to accept that right are you willing to

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not be able to grandstand the way that you you do and i i don't think he is i just i think he's

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and you have to figure you know if he loses that status goes right back down to to bottom tier

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it's going to be open season on cannibalizing him oh like you're gonna get points so easy for

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shitting all over alex in that realm and we already see it now like when he shows up for

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these interviews on like rogan or with patrick bet david or the uh uh logan paul like he just

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gets wasted and he's just like a dumb ass and like eventually that'll wear out if he wasn't like

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had this show that looks super professional yeah yeah yeah it'll just be this sad old man who's

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uh drunk on a youtube show yeah fun fun yep so uh people keep asking alex like how you doing

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how you doing man not well there's trouble super bad there's trouble so how you doing real bad

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alex is like don't worry about me man so people ask how am i doing when i get demonized and i

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get lied about and i get uh put through kangaroo courts and i'm like well how do you think the

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children are sure country being forced to wear a mask over their faces with teachers take them

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taping them to their heads and screaming at them and telling them that they're bad because they're

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white won't you think of the white children oh nobody ever thinks of the white children

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specifically and only yes i like that i think that's fun like people ask me how i'm doing with

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these lawsuits and i say don't worry about me worry about the white kids yeah that one that

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one really is saying the quiet part awful loud yeah a little bit wildly loud yep also don't ask

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alex how he's doing if you want to know how alex is doing ask alex whether or not the world is

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going to end well actually that's really interesting because this next clip he's talking about how the

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good times are over hey alex is the world gonna end no then you're in a good mood are over

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the roaring 20th century going in the 21st century is abruptly hitting a brick wall or

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like a record skipping off the surface and so brace yourselves like when you're in a really

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bad car wreck one time i got blown off a side of a highway and magnet by a tornado what my dad was

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in the car what are you doing and we would have been killed if we hadn't hit the oak trees in the

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back of the suburban it crushed half the suburban end but we shot off spun around backwards down a

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50-foot embankment plunging into trees and got away with just concussions but i remember saying

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brace for impact and we hit so hard it broke both our chairs back and that 10 seconds while we're

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flying over the embankment down the hill into the woods took about 10 seconds was like 20 years it

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felt like forever in there bracing for impact that's a wild tornado story i don't believe that

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i don't think i've ever heard it before and i've listened to a lot of his show seems like that one

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would be a so the part of me wants to say that's probably bullshit but it's actually possible that

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happened okay like tornadoes are super deadly but there have been documented cases of people being

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inside cars that are actually picked up by tornadoes and they survive but i don't think it's a

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super common thing although there are plenty of tornadoes in texas it's it's conceivable i don't

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believe it but i'm open to the possibility of it being true it's it's that's that's where i'm at

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it's closer to how i think he probably happened come on it's been how long it's been more than

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five years it's been more than five years and i have not heard this totally awesome story about

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surviving a fucking tornado before it are you shitting me i used to watch a lot of digrassi

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uh-huh uh the canadian teen show oh i'm aware and one of the things that me i'll never forgive them

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for drake me and my buddy nicky gifts uh one of the things that we were taken aback by is how

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like yeah a lot of the stuff in these episodes are things that happen to uh you know people in

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school sure like there are difficulties you have with adolescents and growing up course but this

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this cast of kids everything happens to them and that's not likely it's a bit it's a little outside

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of the norm yeah i always was like wow these kids are lucky and unlucky it's just nuts and i feel

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the same way about alex like yeah like it's possible that you're in a car and you survive

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a tornado throwing you into a tree sure but add that to all the other fucking nonsense things that

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have happened in your life does everything happen to him i mean it does seem like he's living in a

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never ending uh the days of our lives episode where everybody has an evil twin and shit's

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going crazy and no no no it's passions because there's witches involved that's true there you're

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you're right yeah you're right i fucked up also like you brought up uh before the clip you notice

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that we're about to hit a brick wall just after alex has a really bad piece of personal news

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it's almost like he's about to hit a brick wall in the form of really heavy monetary penalties

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so he's projecting that feeling of imminent trouble onto the audience he's basically just

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lashing out at them and trying to make them feel the same bad things he's feeling yeah and it's

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uh childish yep uh nonsense it's great so he talks a bit about the case like just the same sort of

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stuff like i'm being set up sure sure i didn't really lose that kind of stuff at the beginning

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of the episode and i was like just get to some meat right just give me something so he's got

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a story here uh about a new a new pfizer vaccine formula we live in a country run by the united

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nations and absolutely ruthless private families and i have even nbc news and others reporting

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that okay it's true there is a heart attack drug being added to the children's vaccine

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but it's not for heart problems it's as a base to the shot and you go research it has nothing to do

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with being a base it's not saline water oh my god no so they just slip that in that oh we're

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going to start adding a heart attack drug to the vaccine and then they just come out and say oh

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listen the conspiracy theorist they're right about us adding the heart attack drug but it has nothing

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to do with heart attacks we just don't put saline in the shots anymore this is a bunch of bullshit

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yep so the drug in question here is tromethamine and it's being put into the pfizer vaccines that's

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definitely true but it's not related to heart attacks and the explanation of replacing it uh

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replacing saline it's a little more complicated than alex is making it seem for one thing

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tromethamine has been an ingredient in the moderna vaccine all along and the reason is really

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straightforward tromethamine is a very effective preservative and it helps increase uh drugs shelf

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life this is actually a really big deal because one of the arguments that pfizer has made about

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being unable to send their vaccine to many parts of the developing world is that it has as reuters

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put it a quote strict storage requirement at ultra low temperatures which this will help address

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tromethamine is used as a stabilizing ingredient in many vaccines and even a homolog a diabetes

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medication reuters notes that it's also used as a stabilizer in many fragrances and cosmetic

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products all fun as for the part about replacing saline it's not that it's replacing that saline

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solution the way is alex that alex is sort of implying that saline is just salt and water and

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you know it can help use to clean wounds or reduce dehydration the saline that's being replaced by the

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tromethamine is phosphate buffered saline which is a very different thing that is a very different

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effect from the standard saline solutions phosphate buffered saline has disodium hydrogen

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phosphate added to it and this has the effect of helping stabilize the ph level of a solution that

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it's added to however for the needs of this vaccine tromethamine can do what pbs can do

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and then some so it makes more sense to switch that up yeah the thing about this being a heart

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attack drug is also kind of dubious the tromethamine itself tromethamine isn't a drug

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really that you'd give to someone to effectively reduce their risk of having a heart attack

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the primary connection between this drug and cardiac issues is the tromethamine is used to

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treat metabolic acidosis which is a common side effect that someone may experience if they're

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having cardiopulmonary bypass surgery it's not that tromethamine addresses the heart attack

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it's used to deal with a common side effect of the bypass surgery itself in the interest of

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total fairness it is true that a small amount of heart attacks are thought to possibly be due to

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metabolic acidosis but the causal link is a little bit iffy and there's an important qualifier

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tromethamine doesn't really help with heart attacks per se it just helps with metabolic

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acidosis which is a condition where a person's body is too acidic or where the kidneys can't

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filter the acids in the body quickly enough to keep the acid base level in check typically this

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connection between metabolic acidosis and a person having a heart attack is seen in the elderly who

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are experiencing difficulty with other organs like the kidney and generally this uh the situation is

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that someone has late stage chronic kidney disease right so it's not really relevant to the the story

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that alex is trying to tell sure sure sure yeah also let's not forget that this doesn't even work

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as a conspiracy theory for alex the point of the globalist plans of the vaccine is supposed to be

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to kill everyone off so what sense does it make for them to create a vaccine that gives people

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heart attacks and then change the formula to include something that would stop people from

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having heart attacks did they like change their mind what the fuck are we doing um so it's gonna

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kill everybody between anywhere from two weeks to five years two weeks to 100 years yes but everyone

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will die yeah and it will be the vaccine and so now the globalist plan after having already

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succeeded as alex has said uh i mean right everybody who's already taken the vaccine is

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going to die soon if you believe him then yes they have effectively put heart attack bombs in

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everybody okay so then why what would i mean so that you don't need a new formula nope

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but it does address some of the issues of uh stability of the

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the vaccine itself oh so that so it's a better murder vaccine i guess i guess that might be the

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way that that's what you say right they they they made it more weaponized i guess you stumbled on to

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possibly a way that you could twist this for a care conspiracy they're trying to make it more

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shelf stable so it can be given to more parts of the world to give heart attacks to more people

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but alex's alex is not saying that we have stumbled once again upon a better conspiracy

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theory oh well damn it so alex is mad about uh uh an nbc or msnbc anchor named stephanie rule

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oh uh because she made some comments about how uh americans can pay for uh inflation

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affected products it was a little bit tone deaf uh but alex is is a little bit off base here too

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let's play a clip of nbc anchor stephanie rule hey guys look up how much she gets paid or hell

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i'll do it let's look up how much she's paid uh what's the salary of nbc anchor stephanie r u h

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l e i was asking that yesterday i don't know if we ever got an answer on that let me just do it

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right now what's her salary at nbc news because she's i bet paid a couple million dollars a year

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more she's one of the main anchors hell she might be paid five million a year ten million a year

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some of those people are and she's sitting there telling you that you're getting forty thousand

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dollars a year as a single mother you just need to learn that you've had it too well so stephanie

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rule absolutely doesn't make millions a year at nbc although i'm sure she does fine if alex wants

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to talk about how she's really rich he should but it's not so much about her salary from nbc

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it should be a conversation of her activity in the world of hedge funds which i'm pretty sure

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brought in way more money than anything that she's done on nbc uh so she worked at hedge funds and

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run some hedge funds she ran some hedge funds yeah and now she's on tv yeah she's on msnbc

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and she told she told everybody just pay for stuff yeah she did say that average americans

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can afford to handle inflation and while she's probably right about most of the people in her

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circle that came off as a painfully unaware statement she's gotten a lot of backlash and

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rightfully so i'm not sure that uh her making dumb comments on nbc is really the hard-hitting

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news that alex likes to imagine he covers but i don't know i'd probably just leave this alone

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with him and deal with the more pressing issue like uh everyone's dying yeah i mean you know in

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my book fuck her of course sure uh but also like on our list of shit to deal with she's way low

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down it doesn't really rank unless you're just trying to engage with the attention economy if

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you're just bored for the day that you can engage and get some points off of that and then it's all

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forgotten the next day so who fucking cares yeah i mean i think i think that there is a conversation

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to be had about like people in the uh like especially on the 24-hour news networks people

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say stupid shit on there all the time yeah and maybe maybe doing a better job and in terms of

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some of that yeah totally but i don't think that you get any closer to achieving that by talking

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about the individual instances and making a big deal out of the individual times people say stupid

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shit yeah yeah yeah i don't know that might be i might be wrong in that but it seems mighty trivial

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for something that alex uh the compared to what he likes to think he does i mean the idea of uh

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you know like tv news requires a top-down rewrite all all like page one get get fucking rid of it

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and then start over so what one of them does i really don't care about you know yeah i i hate

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i hate to be i mean we can never really go back i don't think but i don't think the 24-hour news

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channels are really appropriate no they're bad um but i don't know what you do anyway alex is

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convinced that this uh stephanie rule makes millions of course she's paid five million

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the average salary at msnbc is 152 000 a year but she estimated i have a net worth of five million

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and that she's paid two million a year so i guessed it correctly i said probably one or two

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million a year okay so there you go so according to pay scale the average salary for news anchors

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and nbc is 69 317 with the high range being 110 000 no one has presented a shred of evidence to

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prove that she makes 18 times the high end of the salary range but that's the salary that's listed

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for her on one of those very sketchy celebrity net worth type sites sure the two million is the

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figure that you'll get from legit is the name of the website it's run out of nigeria most likely

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alex chose this one because all the other sites that you can find they cite significantly lower

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salaries for her and it just doesn't work for the point that he's trying to make yeah a lot of them

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have uh figures like 200 000 a year alex is just talking shit about this two million a year

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nonsense and i think part of the reason that he thinks that this is even within the realm of

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possibility might be that he makes millions a year there you go so he assumes everyone else does too

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they must if they're i'm on media and i make millions of dollars a year yeah so

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assumably that's just a guess on my part but it's funny to think that he's doing this story about

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how out of touch stephanie rule is and he might be just exposing how out of touch he is yeah it's uh

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as per usual so anyway uh wapo the washington post uh-huh they're they're out of line they're

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they're out of line man i agree here's another one washington post and msnbc both call for banning

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republicans just you're not allowed to be a republican or setting up rules that will prohibit

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media outlets referring to anyone who is a republican as normal you must have you must

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have a new politically correct preface like calling me a conspiracy theorist if i'm not

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mistaken and i'm not we're just months removed from alex going on an extended campaign pushing

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for the outlawing of the democratic party correct even if the washington post said the things he's

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saying it's kind of childish for him to have this response to it he's just like they're just doing

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what i did yeah they didn't do that mad so you're just mad about jennifer rubin going on an msnbc

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show and saying that there should be rules where news outlets shouldn't be able to call republicans

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normal anymore it's not normal politics or whatever sure sure this is a far cry from alex

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literally advocating for the outlawing of the democratic party on multiple occasions and again

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such a trivial story to be spending time on at times it feels like his show is just a grouchy

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old man who gets mad at cable news and he wants to yell about it yeah that does sound about right

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he's got he's got a mickey rooney vibe to him now he's just sitting on his uh reclining chair with

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a glass of scotch sitting there he's like i'm mad at the ladies on tv news here's what's bothering

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me today yeah jennifer rubin said something i don't like i i mean but if if one day we just

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woke up and you were about to listen to the show and all of a sudden you just heard lino lino lino

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lino and alex came out and was like i hate book bags on the train it'd be the best day of my life

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i i don't know if i would enjoy that i think i would lose interest in it pretty quick that's

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fair so alex has buddies in the real media does he yeah okay and they they've been getting in

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contact with him today interesting you know i have a lot of people i know a lot of great people a lot

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of good people uh texting me right now one of them is a very well-known podcaster just during

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the break was asking hey we know the inside baseball on this you should respond to the

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big national news story that they're pumping out on every channel every newspaper from japan to

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germany to the united states you know tens of thousands of articles are being posted alex jones

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found guilty by judge that's a judge totally abusing their discretion absolutely engaging in

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what i would say is fraud so yeah rogan wants a statement i guess yeah i suppose maybe tim pool

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because alex hasn't tim tim pool is in town we know the we know the truth imagine inside baseball

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imagine how sad would that be quite ouch um so yeah alex is you know he's getting jammed up

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judge committed fraud now when we talked to mark uh bankston one of the things that we discussed

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was the bank records yeah and the way alex uh saw fit to have an accountant clean them up a

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little bit they needed to be they needed to be a little bunched up a little bit in the right areas

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you know so here's alex talking about that okay they defaulted us mainly for saying that

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the accounting firm it's a well-known respected accounting firm gave them they demanded our

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financial records which you wouldn't think you'd get in a in a civil defamation case it shouldn't

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be about what i said or did and so i said no just give it to them they're planning to default us and

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i want to make them do it all the way and then they just said this isn't your real finances

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we said well you can't prove a negative i mean it is and they said well it's not

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a quick books file it's it's a it's a spreadsheet and and i talked like four accountants different

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accounting firms about this and they said this is fraud and what i do for this yeah you can't

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give somebody a uh quick book account because a quick book account's a database it goes back to

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the beginning of our quick books over 20 years ago they said from this date to that day so what

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you do is you take it out and put it into a spreadsheet that's what i'm defaulted for is a

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spreadsheet scan of every transaction at this company and you think that's outrageous that

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you would even let them do that folks they were always going to default us and they're always

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going to do it at the appeals court level too i've known that i'm just going to illustrate

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the whole thing for everybody and then that gives us the time uh to you know to move forward

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fighting the globalist i mean it's it's this is not my battle this is not my war this is kind of

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like a rabid chihuahua that has rabies is biting me in the leg and i've got a pack of wolves tearing

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my children apart that's the allegory i've got the wolves not the chihuahua chewing on my leg

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i get rabies shots later so you have to triage things like this that's a little bit of i don't

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i don't confusing i guess i understand the point of his metaphor somebody needs to call quickbooks

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because i mean obviously they had this massive oversight where you can't like choose what dates

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you want to print out the files from yeah you know like there's no way you can own when you

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go into the quickbook software you can only download all of your finances or none yeah old

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man quickbooks is really specific about this like i don't like half stepping no no no no don't give

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me this what file from day to day i'm quickbooks and that's not how it's happening i insist that i

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my software is only used for the entire history of a company or nothing we're quickbooks and it's

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going to take a while to download your files there's a part of me that legitimately thinks

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like maybe alex doesn't use quickbooks or maybe he doesn't like maybe the issue is that like his

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finances are on like sheets of paper i mean or something like maybe maybe that's why he can't

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produce it if you walked into his office and there was just a big uh like gallon drum of receipts

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you'd be like well i mean i that makes sense yeah yeah i mean his dad was the hr representative

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right who knows like maybe his nephew is uh the accountant everyone gets paid and bully on yeah

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yeah who fucking knows yeah it's it's strange also the the the attempt to be like i'm not even

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mad about this it's real funny it's so great we've hit a massive roadblock and everybody's

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gonna die i'm not upset all right and you know what i never actually even really cared about

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these lawsuits it's not a big deal this is essentially the same thing that happened with the

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hamdi ulukaya yeah the the chebani lawsuits are like i will defend this die i will die or be

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proven right hey look i want to give an apology it's uh blustery nonsense uh until there's a

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decision and then once he loses or is going to lose it's a turning tail and be like i didn't

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really care about that at all no big wasn't important come on um but also the country is gone

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sure a lot of people are asking me to respond to this you know i learned about this 20 minutes

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before i went on air and quite frankly i've got all this incredible news that needs to be covered

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and i i just i really think that what's happening to me and the info wars

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i mean i know it's a symptom of the disease of globalism and and and the disease of corruption

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and decadence in this country and in the world in general and and really of of the end of the

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country as we know it now it can be rebooted hopefully but the country for all ints of

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purposes is gone this is modern warfare we're under and the country itself is being bankrupted

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and dissolved sure and if if if i spend my time tactically talking to hbo or talking to uh the

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wall street journal or running around trying to defend myself from the fake things they've

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launched against me we're gonna lose the whole country in the planet so the implication of what

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alex is saying is that if he doesn't stay focused on the work that he's doing the very specific work

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that he's doing correct all hope for the planet is lost yes this is such yeah narcissistic garbage

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no no dan this is a rational clear-eyed understanding of the current circumstances

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if you put all of the math together get the order of operations worked out right it all cancels out

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until you get one man look i mean the world will disappear and everything will fall apart if alex

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does an interview with vice i mean meanwhile he'll go get drunk on rogan's podcast we're at the place

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where if he closes his eyes i imagine he thinks everyone's dead like every time you might not

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understand no object permanence whatsoever it's possible just complete everything is predicated

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predicated upon whether or not i see it the end yeah i i like i like that though in terms of

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like it's a it's such an illustration of narcissism oh i mean it's if i stop for a second

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to address the uh the fact that i just lost these cases if i give a comment to a media outlet about

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this we we will lose the world all right yeah all right bro yeah i mean it's it's fun that like

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default judgments you know as we talked about with mark the first time you know they were like

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this is exceedingly rare and they only use they only really teach these in schools you know now

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we've got alex as an example to teach in law school why not remember that in psychiatry school

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they're going to use alex as a narcissism example as well he's going to be taught in a lot of

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different schools sure very exciting yeah he might be taught in a rambling school too if there ever

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is such a thing because he starts talking about barry why start that oh yeah i think so i think

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alex could teach because here he does a professional ramble about how we have to stay

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in the quiet place of the most high so now they're trying to outlaw their political opposition

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like you wanted to and you say oh well they'll never get away with that really really they are

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getting away with all of it but separately let me tell you how you can fight back against this

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because we're very close to winning and and the globalist cmfo wars is the tip of the spear and

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rightfully so and i'm very proud to be the tip of the spear and i'm very honored to be in this

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position because i want to be a champion for liberty i want to be a champion for freedom i

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asked to get in the arena and i asked for this fight and i expect a lot more to happen but i

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also in the end know in the end these evil doers will be punished and will be defeated across the

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board i know they're going to stage false flags and and and try to blame me for them and others

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they already have like january 6th and i understand that somebody's got to not be a coward to stand up

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to these people so i'm doing it all i ask is is that you pray for us and you spread the word about

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the broadcast and you financially support us so we can go into this fight strong and give it our

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110 so please pray for him for wars please pray for me please pray for my family and please pray

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that i be given focus and clarity and a calm steady heart and mind and hand and then i'd be

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and then i'd be kept in the high place what the quiet place that king david talked about

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of the most high that king david talked about in psalms the quiet still place of the most high

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you're doing great because that is the place we need to be calm focused understanding and just

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moving forward against this evil separately today is the last day to get strong free shipping and

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double patriot points separately completely separate unrelated entirely amazing that shift

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is just professional wow i would ask that you pray that god keep me in the place of the most

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high also free shipping is it good i mean god uh just that you know how much i hate commerce and

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religion pushed together and the way that he combines the two of them so good you you like a

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prosperity gospel teacher well it's so transparent to like you you and i and many other people the

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the the strategy that's being employed here but at the same time like he's consistently done it

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for years sure so it must be effective well there must be some uh success how many different

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prosperity gospels own more than one jet it's a very successful way to do things yeah i guess so

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people like to hear lies especially if god is telling them yeah oh boy so alex went to san

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antonio uh recently and he got himself an interview with mike flinn general mike flinn wow

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wow um tough to get oh yeah he's real busy um yeah he's on the phone with nbc all the time so

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at this point um he hasn't aired that interview and even like as we're talking right now i don't

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believe he's put out any of it uh but he has some thoughts about this old general flinn interesting

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all right let me just say this right now i got an interview with general flinn saturday down

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in san antonio and he was speaking to a crowd of 5 000 people at a big event being held at

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cornerstone church pastor haggy's church and i'm i mean i really respected and liked the general

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a long time ago but i didn't know him and i've gotten to know him the last few years

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and uh i've got a chance to see him as he's basically gotten accustomed uh to being a

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civilian leader and i think he's a great guy and the type of person that could be george washington

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2.0 and i quite frankly think he's uh better suited than somebody like trump because he

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understands it's a globalist new world order operation yeah quit just quit just quit you want

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to do this again alex really yeah also didn't we hate flinn for a while i don't know i don't think

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so i guess flinn's a huge q guy but alex pretends he's not oh and so does and so does flinn that's

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fair that is fair yeah no i think uh mike flinn's one of them that alex has been pretty on board with

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for the most part i think possibly when there was a chance that it looked like he was flipping on

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trump oh that might be what i'm remembering i think there might have been a little stretch

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where alex was uh at least not into him but he he likes flinn okay fine now i think i actually

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agree uh with alex that flinn could be another george washington but from my perspective it's

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the dark version of our first president flinn made some comments that we're going to get into

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later when he was speaking at the cornerstone church in san antonio over uh just before this

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but it's also important to note that this was part uh it wasn't just like a speech at a church

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it was part of the fairly q anon leaning reawaken america tour other speakers included mike lindell

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roger stone the q patriot street fighter former overstock ceo patrick burn and of course stella

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emmanuel the ivermectin doctor who believes that we're living in revelation and also has a promo

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code on her website so alex's listeners can get five percent off their drug purchases very nice

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of her to do these creeps and weirdos were advertised speakers but strangely missing from

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that advertisement was alex though he did get a speaking slot at the event no shit no shit yeah

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god damn it so either he was a surprise guest or they thought like we can't put him on the poster

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right it's too right too much heat see that's that i i i think that's unjust i do i genuinely

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am mad about that that they are ostracizing alex compared to those murderers of idiots

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like what are we talking about but that's only based on the assumption that alex didn't just

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show up and then they're like oh we'll give you some time totally letting the q patriot street

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fighter talk totally totally you can have five i'm sure he could have five if he wanted yeah so

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maybe it wasn't an omission from the poster based on like we don't want to show you here

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uh it might just be that he was an unplanned speech um but yeah the clip i saw of his speech

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was mostly what you'd expect it's just meaningless platitudes about how his enemies work for the

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literal devil how this is the most important time in human history never been more important

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now as for general flinn his speech was a little more interesting there were many new stories

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covering how he said quote if we're gonna have one nation under god which we must we have to have one

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religion one nation under god and one religion under god that's as the founders wrote in the

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constitution dan yeah it's so fucked up i don't really even know how to engage with it like

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they're they these are the people gathering who yell about the constitution all the time and they're

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hero worshiping a lunatic ex-general who's advocating something in direct opposition to

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the first amendment what i think we should do is our constitutional duty which of course is to

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overthrow the united states government and turn this into theocracy just like the founders

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intended when they wrote that constitution that specifically outlawed that yeah some of his other

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comments were also a little bit fucked up or at least like what are you talking about um and uh

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he also uh in this uh uh i don't have any clips of it but here's a passage where he implies that

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america was the last hope for the world there's a time and you have to believe this that almighty

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god is like involved in this country because this is it this is it this is the last place on earth

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this is this is the shining hill uh city on the hill this is the city on the hill the city on the

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hill the city on the hill was mentioned in matthew okay it was mentioned in matthew and then this guy

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by the name of winthrop mentioned it again in 1630 in 1630 okay before the country was formed

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yeesh just because uh several hundred years after winthrop said that reagan said it yeah so now

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flinn is assuming that was actually yeah he goes on to mention that reagan said it and it's sort

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of part of the connection right right right but reagan was just hmm okay anyway my point is that

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based on his stated beliefs and the way the qanon and the other right-wing communities respond to

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him flinn does have the potential to be there george washington the first president of the

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fundamentalist christian nationalist dictatorship they so desperately want to be yeah that's wild

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yep i i really for that i really am blown away that these people with the constitution in their

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fucking pockets are looking up at general flinn say obvious bullshit about nothing and thinking

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i want to overthrow democracy for that that's what i want yeah wow so the globalists control

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pretty much everything sure um based because if you just define the globalists as anybody you

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don't like then you can say that they have both the houses of congress they've got it all they've

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got the presidency but you know what they don't have they don't have the minds of the people

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the globalists have the executive branch they have the congress they have most the courts

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and they have most the cities but they don't have the people that live in those cities they've

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maintained their control through election fraud and they know that victory florida school district

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ends mass mandate after eight-year-old girl told them they should be in prison palm beach

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county school district has ended a mass mandate just days after a second grade girl told school

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board officials they should all rot in jail for forcing children to wear face coverings against

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their will this is a fun story and i can see how alex would want to present the idea that this

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second grader shamed a school board and that's the impetus to stop a mask mandate in this palm county

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palm beach county schools but that's just not true and the children will lead you damn

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uh-huh the state of florida's department of health had released an order that prohibited schools from

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having mask mandates unless parents could opt out of them this school district however decided to

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go against that order the second grader alex is talking about is the daughter of a woman named

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bailey lechelle's and for about two months she'd been suspended for refusing to wear a mask at

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school ultimately it wasn't her activism or the mom having her eight-year-old daughter go on fox

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news shows that ended the school district's max mask mandate the decision was based on a court

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ruling that was made that determined that the school district was in violation of the department

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of health's order and the fact that children could now be vaccinated and that local covid rates had

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fallen dramatically since that decision was made to not let parents opt out of children wearing

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masks it's fun to imagine that a second grader yelled at a school board and they were so taken

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aback by the truth she was spitting at them that they cowered and stopped requiring masks but

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that's just not true i'm going to throw this out here uh-huh and this might sound crazy to you it

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might okay so if a news network is so rabid for any content that reinforces their bullshit

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that they will grab up anyone anywhere who has fulfilled any part of their narrative and put

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them on tv is it possible dan that might be an incentive for people who want to get on tv it

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might be um or run for congress or run for congress it seems like if you just lie about

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bullshit and they there's a tv network yeah um i i alex does end up playing her speech this

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a eight-year-old and i don't really believe she wrote it herself oh yeah she might have i don't

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know but it doesn't strike me as but in these last days i feel the sword of damocles hangs over

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all of our heads right there's stuff that i'm not sure an eight-year-old fully would be able to

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process but maybe she can't i don't know i don't know this kid um but it's it's a little bit dicey

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and and me saying that i i know that alex would come back with something like what about greta

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thunberg sure and i would say that there's a big difference between a teenager and an eight-year-old

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a huge difference and uh i don't know if an eight-year-old really should necessarily be on

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fox news giving anti-vax stuff oh oh i i do know i would even say that an eight-year-old uh being

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giving a message of like climate control or climate change awareness i'm not sure i'm

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comfortable with that even because the kid it's their parents making the decision yeah

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yeah i would say an eight-year-old saying something like uh i hope that the world is

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better that's totally great but that's vague very vague that's very fine because an eight-year-old

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would want to keep it vague an eight-year-old saying i hope the world is better is a very

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inspiring i'm inspired by it right now an eight-year-old talking about carbon emissions

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and stuff like that i don't i don't know what what it brings to the table there is that yeah

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and so i i don't know i'm i'm just uncomfortable with it in the same way that i was uncomfortable

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with that like i don't know 10 year old it sounds like you're uncomfortable exploiting children dan

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and i don't get that i just don't get it now i only really decided to talk about this at all

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because what alex says next okay and mike down for this because i think alex is going on a

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protracted uh little bit of a ramble about how he's disappointed in his daughter and i'll just

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be honest with you my oldest daughter is a wonderful person and she wanted to go to public

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school a few years ago because her friends went there and i let her go and she's been a good good

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young lady she's about to get out of high school and she just recently figured it out it was all

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stupid and said she was sick of it because of the mask and all of it she just wants to go back to

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private school and graduate but i but i let her you know have it have the way she wanted it and

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she said i don't want to be like you i love you i respect you but i i don't want to

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confront people and stuff that's that's that's what you do dad and i'm glad you're doing it for

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us but she said um you know i just don't want to go to school anymore since they want to make me

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wear the mask i just want to go to private school somewhere where i don't have to and now that's

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happening we we got her out a few weeks ago now she's going to graduate at a private school that

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doesn't make you wear a mask but i understand that that that she didn't want to stand up and fight

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them you know sometimes your children don't do the things you'd want them to do sometimes they

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don't follow in your footsteps but i know this young lady is doing exactly what i asked my

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daughter to do i said you need to go in there you need to get expelled over and over again we're

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going to sue them we're going to stand up she said i don't want to grandstand i said it's not

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about grandstanding i said it's about not letting them push everybody around that's what our family

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does is we lead the attack but i said i'm not going to try to make you do it and she didn't

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do it and i'm not putting my daughter down i i'm telling the stories it's true oh god this is so

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uncomfortable this is oh god you know i i would like i would really i think the problem with me

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not having kids uh-huh is that i don't get the thank you from the kids that i don't have that i

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didn't later on go tell jokes about them or talk about them on this podcast or something along

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those lines you're welcome unborn children yeah i i get a sense that there's a little bit of

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disappointment on alex's part that his daughter would not be his proxy um in this fight that he

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wants to have so he could get a lot of uh attention are you are you telling me that you don't want to

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go to school stand up in front of all of your friends and tell them that your dad alex jones

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says he thinks that this is all bullshit you don't want to say that why why give me any reason

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you're telling me that at this very delicate moment you know the sort of maturation process

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you don't want to alienate yourself from literally everybody around you because

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you're taking a stand publicly for my bullshit i can't sing i can't think of any reason why yeah

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i i just i i feel like this is unhealthy and alex shouldn't dad i want to go to college he shouldn't

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be expressing things that are like if i was his daughter i'd be hurt by that i would be furious

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that's awful that's an awful thing to do to your child i would have a tough time processing alex

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talking about this eight-year-old that he admires and being like well that's what i wanted my

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daughter to do i mean that would be tough that's just so fucking awful that's awful that's awful

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to do to somebody yeah to because then there's the implicit i mean and there was always you're

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alex's kid obviously but that's a fucking blackmail threat if you don't do this the next time guess

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what i'm gonna go on my show and keep fucking talking about you well i don't i'm not sure if

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it's a blackmail threat but it makes it clear that if you don't do the things that i want you to do

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there'll be disappointment exactly and it's kind of like there's a similarity in here my love is

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conditional there's a similarity in it like if you're a high school basketball player and you're

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not very good and like you're you know you go to a game and the opposing team has a really good

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player on it and your dad's like ah yeah they're great yeah i wish that was my son yeah i love that

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kid that kid's great that kid has skills if they go like what i keep telling my kid exactly it's

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fucked i am taking that kid out for pizza later none for you shitbag that kid gets a slice of

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pizza big one too i want to get this eight-year-old on my show but not my daughter

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anyway uh alex goes to calls and he takes a call from a guy that has a dangerous perspective

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all right let's go and take another caller mike in england thank you for calling welcome to the

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airwaves hi alex thank you for taking my call and um praise god one thing you've got you

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you talk a lot about x2 but you haven't really told the best truth about it um do you know a

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guy named david bronstein dr david bronstein i do yeah he built his clinic on using iodine and

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hydrogen peroxide and when you did talk about using nebulizer and nebulized peroxide it didn't

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really get across how effective it is my wife and i were exceedingly sick um and we used x2

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two drops of x2 and you have to really cut it down on the peroxide recommend um the food safe the

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food grade peroxide 12 and cut it down like exceedingly light and every time we use it

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it just cleans the lungs it cleans the sinuses because that's where the majority of the infection

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is going to transfer into us is through the sinuses and then down the throat and then into

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the lungs and it um well people just need to know i think if you interviewed dr david bronstein um

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it'd be pretty enlightening because he his clinic was basically built on that well i mean i'm fully

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aware that most people are deficient in iodine and most iodine is bound to another substance so it's

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not really absorbable like it should be in the body that's why we sell atomic iodine good save

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good save just talk about the iodine don't talk about how this guy is basically telling you to

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inhale bleach listen listen you you want to drink a little bit of acid you don't want to drink a lot

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so one thing that's super important to point out about what this caller is talking about is that

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food grade hydrogen peroxide is not food that is a misnomer and it's just called food grade because

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it meets the standards to clean things in places where food is packaged and handled right it can

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also be used in things like bleaching flour that is also i guess as close as we get to food right

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and cleaning out the lungs for some context the type of hydrogen peroxide most people would be

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getting from the store is three percent hydrogen peroxide and food grade is 35 there are some

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medicinal uses that make some sense but pretty much all of them are strictly topical applications

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like softening corns or disinfecting small cuts but even in these cases it's got to be super

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diluted which is why the stuff you buy at the store is three percent i hate that i have to

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say this but just because this guy is saying you should nebulize and inhale this bleach cocktail

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instead of drink it that doesn't make it any more safe this definitely can still be toxic

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particularly if you mess up your measurements when you're diluting i would say that alex has

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no idea who david bronstein is and he was just bluffing when the caller asked but in this case

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he might actually know who that dude is since one of alex's anti-vax compatriots dr mercola

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has promoted him in the past yeah so it's possible that alex does know uh but man

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fucked up fucked up call i i am why don't you why don't you inhale uh a bunch of you know hydrogen

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peroxide i'm i'm consistently blown away because the one truth about humanity that has stayed

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consistent through our entire history is when people feel bad a lot of them are going to try

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and solve it with poison that's a very weird thing that has stayed with us from the very fucking

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beginning yeah yeah but you but it's kind of like this like cavemen are eating poison ivy because

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they got a tummy gait a tummy ache or something you know it's like that kind of level of shit

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this stuff is toxic uh on some level maybe it'll kill the bad stuff you know right no i get that

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the the idea of two negatives equaling a positive i understand that so i was worried about this

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caller but i was even more worried that alex is kind of into it and uh you know i've had a

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lot of medical doctors on i've had a lot of folks talking about what they would do how they would

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help themselves their studies out there showing like you said highly diluted hydrogen peroxide

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in in distilled water through the nasal cavity that alone uh cleans out the virus where it needs

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a few days to get started and going colonizing growing crystals in your body it's a nanotech

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they've released on us really a synthetic virus according to the research and so yeah i mean we

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just talk about all this stuff here on air and we probably should make a bigger deal about it

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please don't um please don't i hate that i have to say this but there are not studies that show

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that inhaling hydrogen peroxide through your nose clears out covid before it has a chance to hurt

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you why would anyone do that study that's just dangerous and a really dumb advice what insane

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doctor is like uh let's do double blind on that one well there are some ideas that hydrogen

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peroxide could have an effect when it's used uh for nasal irrigation or mouthwash like that type

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of thing sure if it's very diluted but it's not ingested right there's no compelling evidence or

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actual studies that show this conclusion but there's some ideas that it's possible

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even then doing a nasal rinse with a diluted solution is a bit different than inhaling

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hydrogen peroxide which there is no evidence is effective and in september actually the asthma

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and allergy foundation of america released a statement warning people that regardless of what

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you've seen on social media do not put hydrogen peroxide in your inhalers my god there's a lot

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of dangerous to this and no good evidence showing that it helps at all so this is definitely

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something alex should not be doing it's like we're living in like you've never seen black

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books but uh we went and saw dylan morn once uh you remember the british yeah you you absolutely

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hated it one of the worst nights of your life famously loved it hated it uh but um in in his uh

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uh show black books there was a moment where he's really really sick and he's by himself and he

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looks over at his oven and he sees the oven cleaner and goes if you can clean an oven you can clean me

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and i feel like that's so much of how people think yeah that is uh that's basically i mean

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i don't have anything to add uh but this collar does and it's not good mike anything else yeah

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one thing i think um because we have asymmetrical asymmetrical warfare against us and they're they're

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using our good graces and our politeness against us in terms of basically murdering and genocide us

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i think we need to see and i think there must be enough data and information out there to start

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doing some nuremberg two hangings i think if you once you start doing one or two of those

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that the people that are kind of like well they told me to do it they're going to realize that

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they are culpable for violating international law national law and and numerous local laws

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once they see that hey this is for real and their life is on the line i think that would be a major

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turning point i have a couple of concerns the first is are there local laws against genocide

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yes absolutely i don't know if like county boards uh cover that kind of maybe there is uh i don't

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know um the second thing is uh this is dumb uh for a couple of reasons i mean we there's some stuff

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that we should talk about but for this being on infowars this is dumb because nuremberg trials

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were like a world court and they should be against that yes they should be against the idea of a

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nuremberg too because on principle they shouldn't even be in favor of the first one no like it's

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it's strange it's it's kind of strange to me the this this formulation but i saw you jotting a note

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down i'm i was blown away by how we went from because and i think this is how this dude thinks

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is like i guess it's because we're so polite that they're we're allowing them to hurt us

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anyways we should hang them like is politeness just not hanging people yep but but it's it's

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something that alex says a lot uh and that's that's probably what the caller is wearing back

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to yeah is responding back to it's the the we've we've been too we've let them get to this point

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we've let the globalists do this by not killing them already you know it was just christians

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during the 80s were so quiet right you know they just had nothing to say they let everything go to

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shit you know they frankly handled the aids crisis better than anybody i'm sure it's it's also

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interesting that this caller starts with the let's inhale bleach and that ends with the let's hang

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people let's start so they know we're serious first things first let's poison ourselves and

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then kill everybody we don't like i don't understand what's wrong about that so alex has

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an interesting uh rebuttal to this guy or he has a take on it that i think is a little bit weak

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now i don't want anybody to go out and and shoot you know any of these um minions or or actual

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globalist because there's a globalist system they've got in place that's that satan runs it's

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spiritual they would use that as a project to expand more control over us our our resistance

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seems to be financial spiritual uh you know physical in a non-violent way civil disobedience

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things like that but they are going to go ahead and just keep moving at us in a violent way and

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so at a certain point we do need to take back some governmental systems and then we do need

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to have nuremberg too and people that do knowingly roll out the population and sterilization weapons

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against the public obviously do need to be executed this is a strange take for alex to have

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because it's it's essentially like let's not kill these people instead let's take over the

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apparatus of the state and then then kill them and use the state to kill yes that way it'll be okay

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that seems counter to some of alex's large beliefs no no no no now and this is this has never

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happened before uh so there's never been sort of like a opposition party that's kind of a minority

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that decides to then overthrow the government and through the government justify their actions

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despite them being incredibly immoral now alex is opposed to federal government overreach right

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and so i would assume that he's not talking about winning the presidency and then using the federal

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crimes to prosecute these people obviously it's not international law since alex doesn't believe

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that exists no it has to be a state government right it would have to be like ron de santis

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decides he's gonna kill fauci yeah that's right yeah that's about right he wants yeah we're gonna

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extradite fauci to florida i mean i wouldn't be surprised if at a certain point he's like let's

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overthrow the texas governor and installed the lieutenant governor as the supreme overlord of

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the texas fucking uh uh ethno state i'm sure he would have uh uh like dan patrick more than abbott

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oh yeah um but yeah this is weird i don't i don't uh i don't find it any more comforting that he's

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saying don't kill people because the the idea that he has is whoa whoa whoa bit more fucked up don't

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target these people we're gonna have to first overthrow the government so we're gonna kill a

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bunch of henchmen first civilians people not involved people who don't even really care

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well conceivably conceivably he could be talking about like electoral politics

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he could be talking about winning offices sure absolutely i guess we can't do that because the

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democrats have rigged it rigged every election so hmm anyway alex uh he's caught a new story

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about covid that uh he's got a he's got to get into and he does a good job they're on the news

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saying it's the unvaccinated that get you sick that's the reason your vaccine didn't work that's

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the reason you have covid symptoms even though the scientists explain it's the covid shot causing the

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covid and we knew this would happen new covid 19 strain found with altered spike protein oh altered

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again oh fuck me this is just now breaking today one week after

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soros and all the rest of the gates people said oh there's going to be new strains we need new

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vaccines the old ones didn't work oh it's not quite accurate uh this is only news because alex

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doesn't understand the topics that he covers right it's not surprising to see the possibility of a

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covid variant showing changes in its spike protein and that's actually a large part of what made the

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delta variant more transmissible than the alpha strain i mean it's almost inevitable that it

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would do that french officials are investigating a new strain that they've detected but it's not

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entirely clear as of yet how different this strain is going to end up being according to an article

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in reuters it looks like researchers are interested in how it can possibly hide from pcr tests since

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quote several of the patients delivered negative pcr tests and returned a positive result only from

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samples taken from blood or deep in the respiratory system however even if this does end up being the

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case quote france's health ministry said late on monday that early analysis did not suggest the

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mutation was more contagious or more deadly than earlier versions of the virus there's a lot of

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information yet to be learned about this variant and it very well may turn out that it's not a huge

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deal and that the vaccines we have are still effective against it so it's it could end up

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being more or less an academic issue or it could turn out that its ability to evade pcr tests means

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that an alternative screening method might be needed in some cases it's also possible that

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significant enough mutations to the spike protein would make it resistant to the vaccines but it's

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way too early to jump to that conclusion and that's what alex is essentially doing and he's

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saying that it's intentional are you telling me that it's way too early to jump to the conclusion

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that bill gates financed the creation of a new variant of delta of covid in order to continue

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killing people and blame the patriots even though the vaccine he's already given us is going to give

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us a death sentence but he's also added something so you don't get heart attacks right right exactly

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yeah it's a it's a smorgasbord of vaccine information a little dizzied by something of the

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trying to keep some of this straight dizzy is a good word so alex complains uh you know about

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this this whole legal issue he's in sure but also you should really know that he's not taking this

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very seriously it's not a big deal it's not a big deal the way this gets at me is having to spend

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time and energy knowing we didn't do the things they said and and telling lawyers they're going

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to default to us years ago and then when the lawyers are like nobody's ever given them all

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their bank accounts this judge is crazy i said give them all to them but they're going to default

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still did it because i wanted to show the world all that and make them sit there and follow their

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political orders to engage in such outlandish incredible corruption i i knew all this i told

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them all that i remember again i was sitting there one time when they deposed me in texas

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and they're like you don't take this very seriously you don't know this is serious

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kind of like later driving home and like called my dad up and i was laughing i'm like

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these people have no idea that i already know all about this stuff

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that i was born researching this information and actually hearing family talk about things that

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they witnessed themselves what what what does that have to do with taking this case seriously

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i mean it's almost evidence that he's not taking the case seriously of course he's saying that

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if his response is yeah yeah i just i don't buy it i don't think this is a good avenue

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no so for a bit alex is promising he's been promising to take more calls sure and he promises

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he's going to get to it got to okay i promise we're going to call for a couple seconds we'll

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bring drew and anderson here at 15 after uh and uh we'll do the fourth hour with him and then the

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war with owen schroyer's coming up oh and poor oh and you know and he's not a victim he's a trooper

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but he got sued for shandy hook for reading a zero hedge article on air questioning megan kelly and

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things she was saying they just sued him and they never subpoenaed him they never and they just

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defaulted owen he never gets he they never even subpoenaed him to be defaulted which under law

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you can't even do that they never asked him for anything they just said you're defaulted to you're

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not even a person as uh it's very clear from our conversations with mark bankston uh they they

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they tried to get owen to come in for a deposition and he did not respond so many times so this is a

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piece of uh nonsense alex is is is spreading he didn't respond almost as if somebody might have

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told him it would be a bad idea for don't worry do's got this one exactly yeah do's got the goods

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oh boy so uh alex said he was going to take calls and he goes to commercial and i thought like hey

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we're gonna get right back we're gonna get some calls we do not immediately do that

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well they're masters at the new type of warfare economic cultural spiritual warfare

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slowly shutting down the economy shutting down the world and then blaming you blaming the general

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public blaming white people are they and what is it about white people the globalists don't like

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well the christian ethos and what happened in the west about 500 years ago the renaissance the idea

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of empowering the average person people having basic rights people having free speech people

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having a right to a jury the guttenberg printing press books what are we doing what is this that's

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all being destroyed don't you understand that the globalists hate white people because they

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invented freedom and books listen if it weren't for white people the library of alexandria

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would never have been so one thing that i think is really interesting is the way that like this

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singular person uh belief that alex has like uh guttenberg with his press yes the great man view

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of history yeah as if he came up with that idea out of nowhere it's like the movable type

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innovations no one has ever thought of it before nobody had ever thought of it before hundreds of

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years zero people had ever thought of it before like this is a process that

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history is engaged with and different cultures are in conversation with each other no

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as innovations only white people well i guess you're right like i don't have

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this is just deeply deeply white supremacist that's fucking wild yeah that's fucking wild

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to not know the massive interplay of trade and every like between oh my god well and

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so even legalistic concepts that alex is is fascinated by and insisting that white people

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invented like the very basis of freedom a lot of that's not based entirely or created out of whole

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cloth by european western cultures i mean it's it's like it's like if he said everybody in sumer

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was white sure like sure fucking fine whatever yeah great basic freedom and books are

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thanks to white people this sucks yeah that really sucks anyway alex gets to calls

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let's talk to skylar in washington go ahead

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hey alex god bless you god peace be with you in this war can you hear me yes sir thank you

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thank you i just want to cover this nbc posted this uh new report titled 100 kids in virginia

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given wrong dose of covid vaccine but we know it's nationwide surely and uh surely disturbing they

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had a doctor try and cover it up they they used this excuse of how they failed these kids and

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gave them adult doses and then they used this excuse to say that they should restart their

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vaccine regimen possibly give them more doses of vaccine i saw that spin so oh we gave you three

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times what we say we should give you so the answer is it won't work because we gave you three times

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more that doesn't make any sense it doesn't make any sense because this caller and alex have the

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story backwards they're saying that these hundred kids in virginia were given adult doses of the

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vaccine three times what they were supposed to get but that's not true in reality according to a

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story in the washington post quote the doses of Pfizer vaccine given at the clinic were diluted

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more than recommended according to the health department it's not that we're going to get

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it according to the health department it's not clear if this is what happened in this other case

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but in another incident in luden county uh virginia a pharmacy was administering incorrect doses to

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children but their mistake kind of makes sense if you don't think about it too much children's doses

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are one-third of the standard dose so you might think that you could dilute one-third of a standard

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dose and just like that you've cooked up a child's oh boy the issue here is that the experts don't

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actually know if that's something that would work it's possible that it would be okay sure

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uh but they're not they're concerned that this wouldn't deliver a full dose and they don't have

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the proper information so there's some concern yeah if this is how the dosing is being done

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yeah i i imagine that if i if i were one of the people who designed the vaccine the knowledge that

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some pharmacist was just like oh well if i have three little cups i'll just pour a little bit of

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this vaccine in there each one that's probably not the way you want to i think the pharmacist

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is probably doing it a little bit more carefully than you're describing sure he's not using plastic

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cups and saying drink it but yes yeah the the point is that you know alex and this caller are

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workshopping a conspiracy theory about a story that they have entirely wrong yeah that's cheating

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it's that's just cheating like what is the point of this show i take things that are wrong and tell

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people they're right i guess so oh my god that is the point of that show yup shit so alex gets

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another call from a guy who's an investigative reporter and i thought i'm sorry i thought i'm

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very excited to hear from this investigator let's see what he has to say and then i quickly got

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disappointed also his name is ragnarok hey hey alex jones ragnarok here from uh florida i was just

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want to call in and um i'm an investigative journalist i used to work for orlando examiner

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in florida in 2010 i was covering the obama administration uh in my articles and i was

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publishing a lot of them um so i had one of these deep state illuminati people email me

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commenting on my articles this is about where i kind of decided like maybe you're not an

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investigative journalist i'm thinking not um yeah saying you know about 50 of what i'm saying is

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true the other 50 isn't true and just rebuttaling what he can and then confirming what i have found

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i have found so i responded to that in kind six months later after he sent me that this is a great

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story 11 22 2010 and i got fired on 11 23 2010 after twitter facebook youtube google all of them

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called up orlando examiners did you want to fire this guy we're going to terminate our contract

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with you at this point i'm pretty sure alex is eating because yeah there's no way that this is

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a really boring story and he is not interrupting it yeah it's not like building on anything not

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trying to derail it into more interesting territory nope this story is just like i had a

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illuminati globalist send me an email and then i responded six months later and then i was fired

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i'm surprised i'm not hearing the satisfying crunch of an egg roll yeah yeah or a nice sammy

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yeah so i've been experiencing my voice being silenced for about 11 years everything you are

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going through i went through it's a battle we got on our hands but it's surprising i got on your

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shows thank you for having me on oh i appreciate you calling the covid vaccination the mandatory

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vaccinations it's in the literature it says that the very patent the creators the patent whoever

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takes that you become property of the ones who have that patent oh we're doing that one i mean

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it does say that they own the genetic material it's crazy what they're doing it's unbelievable

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oh boy yep that was a long walk to get to a dumb theory yep yep

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yeah yeah so all in all i'm not finding myself uh in a in a position where this is an intriguing

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uh episode yeah that story soured me on any hope of interest it really put some air breaks on

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alex's show and our own while it is in 2010 i i already stopped caring sir and i kind of

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understand why alex ends up doing what he does at this point which is rid of the calls yeah he

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decides he's going to play a statement that he recorded probably during one of the commercial

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breaks finish eating yeah and that's why the democratic party and these billionaire

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philanthropists as they call themselves have been financing the attacks on the second amendment and

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on the first amendment in this country and financing an attack on the judiciary they have

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been buying up the judges they have been buying up the courts they've been paying for all the da's

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they've been putting in the county attorneys as well and even the state attorney generals they

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admit this and the witch hunts against their political opposition are now legion and that's

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all that's happened here i have spent millions of dollars fighting these fraudulent sandy hook

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lawsuits against me and they never wanted me to have my real day in court in front of a jury

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it's too dangerous for the establishment that uses those dead children to try to destroy the

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first amendment not just the second amendment and so we gave them all of our documents all

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of our bank records things that had nothing to do with a defamation suit and the judge in texas and

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the judge in connecticut in lockstep said jones has failed to give us documents and it's simply

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not true it is a lie alex is the victim i mean they did everything right they didn't say they

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you failed to give them documents they got plenty of documents some some well some documents didn't

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come and then some were suspicious there were a wildly too many documents in some situations

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yeah so i mean he just did everything right and sure sure and this is so egregious that like

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they're taking our first amendment right away but it's so egregious that it's gonna turn people on

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like it's gonna wake people absolutely fuck up obviously all of this is because the establishment

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is in its death throes and it's lost control of the american people and so they think if they can

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target leaders of the populist opposition and and demonize us and uh do all sorts of corrupt things

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to us that that's going to intimidate other people to not stand up politically against them that's

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not gonna work it's just like when hitler bombed civilian targets in england is it and the general

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public went from being 90 against a war to 90 plus percent for a war and so that's what's happening

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is this is nothing but the judicial system being weaponized trying to intimidate me and others it's

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not going to work i'm going to work harder i'm going to put out more films i'm going to do more

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interviews and i'm going to continue with my pro-america freedom advocacy and i'm not going to

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and i'm not going to be silenced yeah i i i don't think that's going to come to pass because even in

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good times he said he was going to make more documentaries even when he had plenty of money

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instead what he did was buy a fucking tank yeah so the bombing of britain during world war ii lasted

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over eight months in 1940 to 1941 the united kingdom declared war on germany in 1939 so that

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was already happened no i'm going to need to see alex cite some sources on this 90 against

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a 90 figure in terms of british support for the war because i can't find anything that comes close

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to that there was a spike in morale and support for the war at the end of the blitz but it also

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coincided with when the silviet union officially entered the war so these motivators could be

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working in concert together also there was a spike when the us joined the war so i mean like there's

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historical things yeah yeah anyway the point alex is making about germany hoping to demoralize the

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british with the blitz but that only making them more in favor of the war is maybe somewhat

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accurate but only if you interpret it really generously also an important point is that the

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enthusiasm uh in in britain went up when the blitz ended not while the bombing campaign was still

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active this dynamic kind of hurts alex's metaphor but i don't want to split too many hairs it's just

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it's something that he brings up over and over and over again he only really has maybe a hundred

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sort of word blocks sure sure and just sort of fits them in where they need to go right right

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right headline uh pick a word block right pick a metaphor right talk about how you're disappointed

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in a kid we got we got mad libs yes more or less yeah so anyway alex is done uh he does this like

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the the he plays his his statement and it's just more of the same just sort of like i got set up

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yeah of course i'm innocent he's the free alex no this is what this is what it's all been about

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since 1998 this is what they have been working towards dan yeah and it should have happened

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within five years but his timing was off but they they fucked around and did 9 11 look they're

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10 years behind we all know that their plans are always right yeah yeah some some other stuff got

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in in the way sure so alex brings on this guy named drew hernandez and he is a guy who is an

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activist on the right and a big shithead um and he presents himself as a journalist kind of because

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he goes and he like live streams stuff he happened to be in kenosha live streaming and so he has now

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been called as a defense witness in the uh written house trial oh great now uh there have been some

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concerns about him being a little bit too much of a biased person what would you what would make you

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say that i would agree with those concerns uh he says i'm not biased to anything except the truth

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and my rebuttal to that would be uh buddy you're on info wars there you go so you got problems you

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were biased against the truth so anyway alex has a little bit of a bull session with this guy who's

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dangerously close to being offered a job great uh and uh here's here's a little bit of that

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what you talked about how the left and wokeism is a new religion claus schwab came out two days ago

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gave a speech the head of the w to uh build aberg group devos group i mean he's the head of all

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those globalist organizations you know he's really like the world corporate president the chairman of

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the board and he openly said we're creating a new religion of the earth and that's how we're going

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to unify everybody it's a religion where humans are bad and evil and they the high priests are

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going to make sure that they you know suppress us and control us for the good of the earth i mean

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this is a very authoritarian system so can you elaborate on your point about how they are an

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oppressive religion that wants control of our bodies because that's a really good point because

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i mean when you take a look at this from like a biblical world view that's the end game um for

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lucifer and for satan now we're going to get into some theology because that's what is going to

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happen with the advent of the antichrist he's going to be a superstar that is going to unify

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the world that is going to usher in a one world religion one world economy and one world system

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and we are seeing this unfold right now i'm not saying that we are literally living in the book

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of revelation right now because there are some precursors that need to take place according to

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the bible but we we are literally watching right now is the bible would refer it to as the spirit

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of the antichrist because this is the grand finale before the second coming of jesus christ

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oh boy so quick clarification uh claus schroab isn't the head of the uh world trade organization

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he's the head of the world economic forum but to alex all of these organizations are

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basically the same thing so it doesn't really matter that's not really a um so also claus

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schroab was giving a speech at world economic forum summit that took place last weekend and

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he didn't say the things alex is saying right also drew hanandas is clearly insane also i don't know

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if you remember this but i was listening to this and i remembered like i hate this guy yeah i

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remember him being like journalist baby that's that's the he's one of the journalist babies oh

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yeah his voice he just sounds like a whiny baby he's the worst yeah yeah i got really annoyed

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listening to this i can't believe that you uh here's here's the thing about being a witness

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i i understand because the judge is a piece of shit and that's not unusual but i mean if i'm

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on the jury i would like the defense to always question or the anybody to always question their

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witnesses do you believe that it's lucifer's plan right what's happening right now because if

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that's the case then i don't care what you have to say do do you believe that when you were at

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that protest in kenosha do you believe that the devil was involved do you believe that this is

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part of end times prophecy absolutely when you were there is that a state of mind you were in

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absolutely is it possible that that might affect how you experienced things i mean i don't even

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care if it's might that's the end for me i don't believe you so anyway um i i just think this guy

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sounds like a baby yeah how much further does this need to go they want to dictate your children they

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want to jab your children they think they know what's best better than an own parent for your

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own babies your own children that goes beyond politics way beyond politics way beyond democrat

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way beyond republican way beyond trump way beyond biden this is evil it's evil when people think

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that they can dictate and control and know what's best for your own babies over you as a parent

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how the hell could you ever allow that ever in what universe by the way you know what fauci means

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in latin isn't it like uh death death right oh my god it means grim reaper oh my god you see what

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i'm saying you see how this all just kind of like comes together don't say it comes together because

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of us it's pre-planned because god knew it was going to happen but yeah fauci doesn't mean death

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or grim reaper uh the name is derived from the sicilian word for sickle uh the name comes from

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people who had the occupation of making sickles having that name much like smith or miller or

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occupational rooted names i was going to say it's like an agriculturalist basically yeah like uh

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you know how some people have the last name farmer yep anyway this is the perfect sort of information

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for alex to throw around because it means nothing but it has the tendency to blow idiots minds

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and it's working i mean just just that but some people just can't be orators you know that's not

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your skill it's not your skill but this this and yeah how could they let how could you let people

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trust their babies more than their parents like oh my god yeah go away i mean i find this guy to

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have a credibility problem i find him to have a bias problem i think he's annoying uh that doesn't

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really affect the judicial part no uh but also i think that him saying things like this next clip

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that i'm gonna play i think this is a problem for him being involved as a witness for the defense

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sure he's going to talk about one of the people who got shot one of the people that written house

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killed yes uh this is a person who has uh some uh history of abuse against children uh he

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perpetrated okay it is exaggerated by alex and uh drew but i'm i'm not minimizing the fact that

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that is a part of this right right right now here's what he says this is just just awful

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how do we get to this point where we are propping up child molesters out in the open that is who

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joseph rosenbaum is and was that's a fact and that is exactly why they didn't want it to come

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out in the trial because they knew if the jury knew this they exactly knew that possibly this

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guy deserved to get shot because kyle rittenhouse was a minor when joseph rosenbaum was charging him

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from behind i was thinking about rosenbaum he was raping little kids that's something that i think

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is impeachable as a witness him expressing a mentality that maybe the jury would decide that

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he deserved to die because of past actions um i i just don't i don't think he should be anywhere

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near that courtroom no that's that's fucked up yeah that's just fucked up yeah i think being on

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infowars is bad enough but then when you're expressing these kinds of opinions it's i i

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just don't i i uh because because he's basically implying that it's okay if it turns out after the

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fact yeah if later you learn something about a person yeah yeah if you can defend your actions

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after the fact yeah based on someone being bad that's crazy it's like it's like if i liked

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murdering people and then i pushed somebody off a cliff and then i was in court and they were like

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ah but did you know this guy was also a murderer i'd be like see i'm totally off the hook now no

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maybe the jury would think he deserves to be pushed off a cliff maybe i'm the hero here that's

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not how the law works no it's still against the law yeah the jury wouldn't be like ah aha

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i don't care about the person yeah this isn't fucking texas in the 1800s no it's not just like

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oh yeah well he had it coming again not guilty this is baby shit yeah this is how children

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absolutely absolutely not a mature uh fully adult person whiny babies yeah so anyway here's how drew

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ends uh the show alex is uh he wants drew to wrap it up throws it to him you get the final word my

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man oh god drew we got 30 seconds take us out america you need to wake up to the reality of

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the reality look at the culture look at education look at politics look at the grand scale look at

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the entire world look at the justice system the so-called justice system it's all being subverted

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right now you need to stand up for what's true for what's righteous and what's honest because

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it's either now or it's never that's absolutely right choose god folks god will win in the end

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this is all a giant test that seems also imputable as a as a witness if he has these beliefs about

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the justice system yeah it doesn't i don't know i don't i'm i'm not i'm not happy about any of this

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such a boring speech i was longing for the story from 2010 again i was like oh wait a second

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somebody sent a comment towards you bring back ragnarok absolutely yeah that guy is a better

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journalist seems like give him a job well anyway uh i i think i i think that this is actually

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exactly what you'd kind of expect sure alex deflecting saying i did everything right yeah

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not to blame these people jam me up it's fraud that's exactly what you'd expect once it's over

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there's no reason to be angry anymore yeah like the anger is a useful sales motivation until the

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actual door is shut right right now the door is shut it's just a matter of pr campaigns to make

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sure that your revenue streams from the audience doesn't dry up right and i think he's doing

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exactly what he needs to do on that front yeah uh he's also being uh overtly uh white supremacy

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yeah yeah um also being real stupid and uh be hanging out with the drew baby you know here's

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something weird this just this thought just occurred to me okay so alex if the vaccines do

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murder everybody uh-huh will be off the hook so shouldn't he be rooting for people to take the

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vaccine if he believes that people who take the vaccine will die guess who took the vaccine judges

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juries lawyers shouldn't he be like hey everybody that i don't like get this vaccine well no because

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he he believes in humanity too much because he loves people and he doesn't want to that was

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that was the closest spit take in a good long while yeah that one got me um integrity decency

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sure love of fellow man honestly god it's all about god yep yep um so uh we we end this in a

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in a in a sort of state where i think we're in a holding pattern until we know kind of what the

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damages are gonna be yeah because i think if they're considerable um alex might be in very

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big trouble yeah if it's not he might be able to fuck around and have some uh money bombs and

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maybe make enough money to coast through maybe you know cut some staff sure maybe slim down a little

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bit i don't know i just can't think of any way to go to a jury with anything other than end info

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wars money you know what i mean like listen this is not going to stop unless we stop it

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you know what i'm saying so we have to either either he stops info wars or we award a judgment

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so high that he has to stop info wars that seems to be the only option for me otherwise what's the

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point of any of this i understand where you're coming from i just don't know if that flies in

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court no i agree i agree with that yeah i agree with that but i mean honestly what's the point

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of any of this if he's allowed to continue doing it what's the fucking point you know

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yeah yeah i mean i guess the point i would want to uh seek is whatever it is that the families

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who were suing him want sure of course no i would defer to that you're absolutely right on that

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absolutely but i i think i think that um you know i don't i you know i think people might expect

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that there'd be like a big change of like his tone because he lost this suit absolutely not

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it's not the case but i mean that's kind of my point yeah it's not this behavior isn't going to

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stop because he gets a huge judgment against him yeah this behavior is going to continue for as

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long as he does his show the only option to make this a win is to end info wars but if he does end

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infowars then he could just do a podcast true absolutely i'm not saying that that's i'm just

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saying that that's what i would be yeah pushing for you know i i understand yeah um i don't know

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and we'll see what happens indeed but for now jordan uh we have a website we do it's knowledge

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fight.com yep we are also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and

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that go to bed jordan yeah um also we had intended to not have an episode today for wednesday because

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i wanted a little break this sneaky snake was so sneaky it snuck up on us yes uh you know times

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necessitated us having an episode so uh if you've made it this far here's a warning we might not

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have an episode on friday uh we'll see we'll see tbd if he gets drunk and does a special report we

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might have an episode on friday we might uh but uh until uh we see again uh i've been neo i'm leo

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i'm dz x clark i'm darryl rundis and now here comes the sex robots andy in kansas you're on

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the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love

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you you