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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am SWEATING

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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for knowledge fight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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saying we are the bad guys

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knowledge fight

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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her

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I need, I need money

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and

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Stop it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas

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A-A-Andy, it's time to pray

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a victim caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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knowledgefight

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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledgefight

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I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple dudes

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I'd like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene

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and talk a little bit about Alex Emmerich Jones

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Oh indeed we are, Dan

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Jordan, Dan, Jordan

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I have a quick question for you sir

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Sure

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What's your bright spot today?

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My bright spot today Jordan is still upcoming

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but ever closer

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I finally found

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June, finally going to be a movie

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No, that's your bright spot

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Oh okay

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Mine is that I finally found the La Croix Beach Plum flavor

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I had missed it at a couple of stores

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that I had looked for it at

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and I finally got my hands on a pack of them

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and they are cooling in the fridge as we speak

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Okay

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So I actually haven't tried them yet

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but it's gotten, the anticipation is building

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Oh

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This is going to be such a letdown if it's bad

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Yeah, I mean, I'm looking forward to it

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I am too

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It's going to be an intense emotional experience

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It's either going to be

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I'm going to get like Beach Plum merch

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Sure

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I'm going to get like a hat and like a La Croix shirt

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I'm going to be a La Croix boy

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Like somebody coming back from Disney World

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you're just going to be covered head to toe

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Either that or you're going to see the other 11 of these

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get thrown out my window

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in fury

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I am looking forward to it

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because it can't possibly just be okay

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Yeah

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And the reason is not just because it couldn't be

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I'm sure it could be okay

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but because it's so built up

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The tension

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It's too high

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It's going to crack one way or the other

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It's not going to just bend

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No

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And I'm here to make an announcement

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What's that?

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Next episode of ours

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Yes

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Episode 600

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Oh shit

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I'm going to try the plum live

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on our show

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I will hold out until our next episode

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so everyone can have the delight of experiencing this alone with me

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Okay, that'll be

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We don't seem to do much special for our number episodes

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I know, that's almost an insult to the idea of doing things for your number episodes

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Feels on brand

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It does, it does

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I like it

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Yeah, so what about you?

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What's your bright spot?

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You know, I don't really have a bright spot this week

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or today or whatever

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So much, you know

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I suppose there's this

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I have a silver lining

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My grandma passed away

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Sorry to hear that

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a couple of days ago

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and you know, it's tough

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but for the past three years, it's been, you know

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a style of living that I wouldn't aspire to

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That's a way to put it

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So in, you know, it's not good that it's now

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but it's not bad that it's, you know, not five years from now

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that kind of thing

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So there is that

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It could be much, much worse

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So I guess that's about as close to, you know

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a bright spot as I get this week

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Wow

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It's not great

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No

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It's not great

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I mean, I could talk about how I'm adjusting to my new medication

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Is that better?

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Maybe, it might be

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Look, I mean, I don't want to judge you for, you know

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having these feelings about your grandma's passing

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I don't know

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The segment is bright spots

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I don't, I know, but what do I, I don't have any bright spots

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I guess you could frame it as the bright spot is that she's not in pain

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That's why, that's what I was trying to say

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Yes, that was my, that was my thrust

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I'm not sure you said that incredibly well

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I didn't say it incredibly well

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If it was a bright spot, I would probably be more eloquent

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Perhaps

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Anyway, I'm sorry for your loss, Jordan

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and it is, I understand where you're coming from

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and it's tough

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But Jordan, today we have work to be done

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Ah

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Ah

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I'm not really a human

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I don't know how to talk to humans

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Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha

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We have work to be done

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I like it, we have work to be done

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Away with us to the workshop

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Today we're talking about the past

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Yes

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We're going to June 13, 2003

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um, and part of the reason is, I decided, it's, I, I, I,

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one of the rights that I've retained from myself

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Yes

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Is that I reserve the right to go back

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and put Alex on timeout whenever I feel it is appropriate

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Yeah, I mean, you have to

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After our last episode was so white nationalist and disgusting and racist and xenophobic,

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I just felt like I don't even want to risk emotionally engaging in that. I'm tired of

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vaccines. And I don't want to risk the audience having to engage with more of that within the

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same week. We can deal with this down the line, but today we're going back to the greener pastures

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of 2003. They weren't really that much greener. Well, I mean, you know, our last episode had me

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like, do I miss Harrison Smith? Am I looking for a more boring white nationalism right now?

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Is that what's disgusting to me? So yes. Do you want button-up white nationalism or really weird?

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I guess I don't want my white nationalist to rip its shirt off and scream at me while running down

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the street greased up like a pig. I do not want that. So this is going to be an interesting

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episode. We have some news stories that Alex is covering, possibly well, possibly not.

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Well. And then a really funny thing happens when a caller calls in and wants Alex to produce

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sources. Oh, I like that. That'll be fun. And we'll get to all that. But first, Jordan,

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let's say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Reverend Shorty Doo-Wop,

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thank you so much. You are now Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. I would like

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to hang out with that. Yea, with that? With Reverend Shorty Doo-Wop! It's not a person.

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That's a robot. Uh, could be. Yep. Next, italic squirrels, thank you so much you are now Policy

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Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Nigel. Thank you so much

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you are now a Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thanks, Nigel. Next, pretty please, do more

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live streams. Thank you so much you are now Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much.

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Maybe.

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I mean, have we ever done one that was ours?

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Yeah, we did some way back.

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Not since the way back, yeah.

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You did some videos.

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Oh, that's true.

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Or some games.

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I did do some games.

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We could play Magic.

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We could.

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We could do some streaming of us playing Magic.

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We could probably do it. I could figure it out.

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If you can figure that out, maybe we'll do that.

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Ah, we'll see what happens.

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Next, Steven, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Steven!

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I know, and we got a technocrat out here in the mix.

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Uh, so, ha! Take that, Caroline J from the Mohawk Nation.

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Match me on this level, you turnip.

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Love, Eric J from the Mohawk Nation.

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Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, Eric.

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Yes, thank you very much, Eric.

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Um, uh, so, Jordan, uh...

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Yes, sir.

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I've realized that it's been a little while since we've had an out-of-context drop.

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Maybe it hasn't been, but it feels like it has.

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Spiritually.

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Yes, and so I'm thrilled to start today's episode with an out-of-context drop.

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And don't walk outside without your ID, or we'll arrest you.

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We're a free country.

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I'd like to add that voice just to let you know how evil these people are.

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Oh, so that's why he does it.

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Mystery solved.

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I'm glad in the present he doesn't feel that he needs to explain that.

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You know what?

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I feel like he got it out of the way in 2003.

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He had, that was the first time he let anybody know.

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That's why he did the voice.

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So good.

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Now it's on the docket and we're good.

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Just imagine being in his audience is like, why is he doing that voice?

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Is that voice actually how the person sounded?

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Is that an impression?

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So we start off today's show with Alex covering a story about a Massachusetts family

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who got in trouble because they didn't want to take a standardized test.

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And an incredible article out of Waltham, Massachusetts,

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or Massachusetts, where the family has these wonderful children.

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They're almost grown up.

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They are refusing to let the school system test them.

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And so the police came with the CPS workers and kidnapped them,

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and then tried to threaten them with jail if they didn't take the federally mandated test.

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Now you talk about secret police folks where you get arrested for refusing to take a test

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when you've been homeschooled your entire life.

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It's all about destroying the family.

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I just, I don't know what story this is.

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I hear these details and I'm like, all right, I'm going to try and find this story.

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I got nothing.

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Nothing.

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I couldn't find anything.

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And I noticed that there was this pattern that's kind of developed in the past that is like,

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Alex will throw out these stories and it's like,

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I'm going to have to really dig to figure out what the fuck you're talking about.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And I think it's intentional.

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Well, if there was, if his story was true, I feel like it would be easier to go.

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You know, whenever you go back and look for stories for him in the past,

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one of the easiest ways to know it's not true is that it's very hard to find

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because this story would be very easy to find.

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I'm not sure.

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Should it be true?

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I'm not sure that this one would.

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This could easily be a bit of a domestic family court type of issue.

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Sure.

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That may not have been that big of a deal.

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This could be a local news story that just isn't there anymore on the website or something.

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Possible.

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Of this local news organization.

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Possible.

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But, you know, whatever it is, it's either a non-story.

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Right.

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Or it didn't happen or there's some lie.

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Right.

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But it's very difficult to track down.

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Right.

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Now, conversely, I will agree with you that, like, this next story that Alex is talking about,

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if this happened, everyone should know about this.

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Yeah.

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Also, every couple months, I'd say every four or five months, I'll see an article

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where they send a SWAT team into a school full of kids and they shoot officers.

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What?

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They kill officers.

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What?

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They shoot children in the face.

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They shoot each other.

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And it's happened again, ladies and gentlemen.

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We have mainstream news articles in the Road to Tyranny where they like to shoot children

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in drills in the face and kill officers.

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And they've done it again.

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The real scourge of the schools is the SWAT teams.

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Mainstream news, they've done it again.

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We'll go over that little tidbit for you as well.

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So a big show lined up for you today.

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Would you like to comment on any of these news articles?

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I have some thoughts.

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So if I understand what he's told me correctly, it's that SWAT teams, every four or five months,

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so about three times a year, a SWAT team will go into a school and just mow everyone down

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and including themselves.

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Sure.

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So it's just a big orgy of bullets and we don't know about this.

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It's yeah, it's not making the news somehow.

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This day, June 13th, Alex has two stories about this.

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There are not one, but two articles today.

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I see these articles every few months where SWAT teams go into schools, shoot their own

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officers, guns go off.

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They shoot a kid in the face, blow half their head off.

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The child's flopping around in a coma.

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That happened up in Detroit last year in a quote drill.

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They shot the kid in the face.

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So at this point I was kind of getting bewildered.

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It's pretty rare that Alex talks about specific incidents that I can just, I can't find any

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evidence of having happened.

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Usually there's some detail that he's getting wrong and it makes it more difficult to track

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down leads.

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But as I was listening to this episode and trying to assess the claims as I heard them,

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I was struggling.

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The initial story about the having the family, having the children taken because they wouldn't

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take a test was intriguing if short on details.

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But this school shooting is the kind of thing that everyone would have written an article

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about.

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This is huge.

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Yeah, they're doing a drill and they shoot a kid like that is something that would be

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change drills for a while.

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It'd be a big conversation nationally.

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Everybody would be like, maybe shooting drills are bad.

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Yeah.

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According to Alex, the SWAT team had come to a school in Detroit to do a drill and they

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shot a kid in the face.

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And I think that would be a huge deal.

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And I find it hard to believe that I can't find any news stories about this happening

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and that it did happen.

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But then Alex kept talking and it became clear that I think he's just making stuff up.

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Well, it's happened again.

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And, uh, this time by the grace of God, in both cases, the guns just went off.

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The guns just went off in the classrooms during the drills.

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And of course, last year, uh, the four star telegram reported cop of the year who had

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recently been transferred to the SWAT team in a school drill in the school with children

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was shot in the head by one of the other officers and died on the spot.

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So within a couple of minutes now, the story seems to be that a year prior, a cop shot

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another cop in the head at a school drill.

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Right.

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I don't know if this is the same story or like what, I don't know what's going on.

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This still isn't good, but you definitely can see that this doesn't appear to be the

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same story.

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I think something that's very important to, to involve in this is that zero SWAT teams.

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True.

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So the upside is now I actually know what some of the details of that story are and

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I have a better chance of tracking down the story.

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The thing is, the only thing I can find that's close doesn't even match the second version

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of Alex's story.

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Okay.

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So I believe that Alex is talking about Corporal Joseph Cushman based on the details of the

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story that he's telling.

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Cop of the year.

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Cushman was involved in a training exercise at an area junior high school and was engaged

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in a demonstration with another officer when their gun fired and shot Cushman in the head.

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There are some really critical details that match up with Alex's narrative.

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For instance, this was a police officer who was shot in the head within the general timeframe

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of when Alex was saying this was supposed to have happened.

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Right.

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Cushman was not named cop of the year, if that's a thing, but he was the police department's

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rookie of the year in 1999 and he'd been promoted a day before he was killed.

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All right.

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So he had about a 98, 99 mile an hour fastball.

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Mm-hmm.

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But there are these details also that don't match up.

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For one, this didn't happen in Detroit.

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It happened in Arlington, Texas.

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Second, Alex is saying that this happened around children, but that's not true.

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The school district was on summer vacation and there were no students on campus when

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they were doing the training.

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There were 200 students enrolled in summer school classes, but those classes ended at

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noon and this exercise began at 3 PM.

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Third, Cushman didn't die on the spot.

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He was taken by helicopter to John Peter Smith Hospital and was pronounced dead at 7 30 that

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evening.

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I'm fairly sure Joseph Cushman is the cop that Alex is talking about, at least partially

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because the reference to the story he has is the Fort Worth Star Telegram, which is

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a paper that would be much more likely to cover an accidental police shooting in Arlington,

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Texas than one in Detroit.

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Yeah.

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This story itself is horrifying and it's a good argument against many things like, you

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know, cops using real guns and training exercises or...

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Having guns.

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Cops using schools to stage training at all.

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Having any guns at all, yeah.

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You could take the actual details of the story and use it to make the points you want, but

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Alex is basically just addicted to lying.

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He can't tell a straight version of the story even if it works for some of his points.

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Yeah.

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He still needs to sensationalize it by adding children being present and...

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SWAT teams.

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And I want to say this because I feel like I could be bordering on offensive in some

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respect.

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I don't know if there was an incident where a student got shot in a school in Detroit

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by a cop during an exercise.

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Sure.

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I will allow that there is a possibility that this is true.

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I can't find the story that Alex is talking about, but I don't want to be like, that didn't

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happen on the off chance that there is some real incident and there's a real tragedy that

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Alex is in some way mischaracterizing.

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Right, right, right.

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In the world that we live in, it is more possible that something like that happened.

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Or at least possible enough that were it true, everybody would be like, okay, that happened

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happened is part of the story, but Alex can still be lying about it.

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Yeah.

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If it, even if it happened somewhere else, it's not like he remembers it or, you know,

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that kind of thing.

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I can't tell what's going on in terms of what the stories are.

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Yeah.

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But I can find this clear case of what he's talking about the cop of the year.

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Right, right.

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I can't figure out what he's talking about in terms of Detroit, and I don't know if they're

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supposed to be the same story.

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Right.

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I just don't want to be disrespectful on the off chance that there is a story that I missed.

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Totally.

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And that's all just covered 20 years ago.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So there's another story that Alex has that makes the point that the SWAT teams are evil.

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They use special weapons and tactics.

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No shit.

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More cops are being killed.

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There was the famous case with a giant armored vehicle.

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The guy's wife had left him.

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He was throwing her stuff out in the front yard, throwing a fit, was distraught.

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They came to the house.

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He didn't have any guns.

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Uh, they came in, uh, they, uh, there's video and audio of all this.

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The red and green team went in on two sides of the house, shot two of their own officers,

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killed one of them.

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They planted a gun on the guy, tried to frame him, a good cop who was, who responded on

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the scene, blew the whistle, and, uh, nothing happened to the officers, uh, that tried to

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frame someone and who killed a fellow officer and wounded another one.

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But at least the innocent man did not go to jail for that.

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So one of the things that I think it's really key to understand and recognize is the way

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that Alex uses vagueness as a weapon when he tells his stories.

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And he always has, he doesn't get into specifics or even give enough detail for you to really

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know what story he's talking about because these stories aren't here to be accurate

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representations of things that happen.

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They exist to evoke feelings that support his worldview.

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This case from Lubbock is about Sergeant Kevin Cox, who was shot and killed during a July

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13th, 2001 standoff at the home of Richard Robinson.

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Robinson had barricaded himself in the house following a fight with his wife, apparently

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also, uh, in the process, uh, setting some small fires in his front yard.

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Sure.

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So, uh, the police were trying to gather information about the case and that they, they learned

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that Robinson had, quote, talked to a relative earlier in the day about suicide.

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While the police were attempting to approach the house and throw in some gas, shooting

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broke out and in the confusion of it all, it wasn't clear how it had all gotten started.

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When the dust settled, Cox had been fatally shot and Robinson was arrested and charged

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with his shooting.

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However, upon analysis of the 13 guns he had, which Alex is weirdly reporting as zero guns,

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the police determined that Robinson had not actually fired any guns during the standoff.

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So he couldn't have possibly shot Cox.

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Yeah.

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A week later on July 20th, Robinson was released and the charges were dropped.

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His lawyer told the Lubbock Avalanche Journal, quote, we're so pleased that the police didn't

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try to cover anything up and the district attorney's office did the right thing.

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Ultimately, it was determined that another officer had fired the bullet that killed Cox

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and there was no good reason for the shooting to have broken out in the first place.

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Yep.

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Except some kind of like, you know, conversations about, uh, in, in, um, insufficient training,

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that kind of thing.

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Yeah, I would like taking their guns away, but that's fine.

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The big message of this story is that cops need better training and that maybe in a situation

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like the one Robinson was in, militarized police aren't the best approach.

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Possibly better outcomes could have been reached if social workers or mental health professionals

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were dispatched instead.

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Maybe we'd all be better off if we took some of that funding that goes to the police and

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diverted it to better approaches to complicated situations like the one that this man was in.

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It'd be so cool if Alex had still hated the police.

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Like he and I would be like a lot cool on a lot cooler terms.

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I don't think so.

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If he still hated the police.

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I think, you know.

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I think it would be easier for you to be tricked into believing that he wasn't a horrible bigot

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monster.

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No, no.

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If you're, just cause you're a horrible, just cause you hate the cops doesn't mean I'm not,

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I'm going to forget you're a horrible bigot.

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Yeah.

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But it would make things a little bit smoother for me.

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There's a whole lot of people who I think are piles of shit who have a distrust of billionaires.

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Sure, sure.

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Doesn't really mean that much.

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Definitely true.

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So Alex has taken this story and fudged some of the details to make the central narrative

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about the police trying to frame this guy when the information doesn't support that

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narrative at all.

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In order for Alex to fit this square peg into a round hole, he has to lie about things like

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whether or not Robinson had a gun.

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He has to create this fiction about the police planting a gun on him and a good guy cop on

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the scene blowing the whistle.

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Alex is a liar, but it's important to understand that he has to be in order to maintain the

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political beliefs he holds.

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Yeah.

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He could not deal with stories honestly and still have the same points that he makes because

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reality does not back these things up.

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Yeah, I mean part of what we're dealing with is that as much as he's talking to everybody

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else on his radio show, he's also convincing himself that he's not a monster, you know?

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So, fuck.

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But look dude.

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What?

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You gotta worry about these SWAT teams.

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I mean, yeah.

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A SWAT team member blows their other member's head off or shoots them in the back because

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they're all stumbling around in the dark with shotguns and MP5s to each other's backs in

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stocked up formation, they're going to kill you on average and plant a gun on you.

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This is horrible and it needs to stop, but it's not going to stop.

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It's going to get worse because Homeland Security is going to increase the funding of it.

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I heard it on the news right here in Austin.

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Are they going to increase the funding of police departments?

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Are they going to increase the funding of them planting guns on you when they kill each

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other?

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If, if...

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This is unspecific.

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If they are going to ramp up their murdering slash covering up the murder and framing people,

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they will need to allocate more funds for guns to leave at the scene.

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So I suppose they will have to, DHS is probably going to have to increase funding for that.

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I mean, look.

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Yeah, there's a fine conversation to have about, you know, problems with policing.

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Yes, there is.

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This is childish.

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This is bad.

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This is bad.

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This diverts you from an actual conversation into like, oh, they're going to kill you and

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plant a gun on you.

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Okay.

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Okay, buddy.

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All right.

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Which is not to say that they don't do that shit.

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But not every time.

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Not every time.

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Yeah, that's my point.

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They don't have a budget for it.

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That's the point.

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So one of the things that I think is really fascinating when you go back to 2003, Jordan,

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is you start to see things that Alex has an awareness of that he doesn't seem to have

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an awareness of in the present.

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Maybe primary aspects of his brand are misunderstandings that he didn't have in the past.

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Weird.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's very strange.

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Like, for instance, there's one caller calls in on this here June 13th show.

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Okay.

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And he's mad about G Gordon Liddy, right?

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Sure.

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So G Gordon Liddy is on the radio.

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Right.

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This guy, he calls in.

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He's like, how does it feel to be on a station that's full of censorship?

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And it's almost quaint to hear people bitch about G Gordon Liddy.

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Sure.

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It's almost like, oh, yeah, I remember that.

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Your station is censoring.

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Yeah, get him.

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What's the proof?

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What's the proof of this?

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And the proof is they won't have Alex's show on their air.

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See?

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Right?

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Proof.

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Alex understands that this kind of thing is not censorship.

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And, you know, I have mixed feelings about Mr. Liddy.

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But really, I don't want to do a whole show about him.

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Right.

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Um, and I just wanted him to know that he was on a radio station that would not allow

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your program to go on the air.

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Oh, you talked about me?

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No, before I could get to him, he cut me off.

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But before I could mention that, that he was on a station that would not allow your program

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on the air.

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I wanted to get his feelings about that thing that censorship is alive and well in this

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country.

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We know that Erwin Schiff's book was banned, The Federal Mafia.

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Well, I've got to tell you that if a newspaper or radio station doesn't want to have somebody

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on the air, that's not censorship.

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That's their right.

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Right.

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But if they heavily censor all the calls and don't let certain views come out, if it's

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an open call format, that is wrong.

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What we need to foster is a loosening of the FCC rules and to force stations to really

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serve the local community and to at least have some local programs, because that's what

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the airwaves are.

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They belong to the people.

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That's where you attack the subject.

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I mean, if a station doesn't want to have me on the air, that's their right.

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It's a free country.

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You know, I've had people tell me before, well, you won't post my comments on your website.

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You're censoring me.

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Well, no, they can go start their own website.

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So it's not censorship to not have someone's information if you don't agree with it.

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Oh, really?

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So you're saying it would be someone's right to not have someone on their platform.

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I mean, certainly that seems spelled out by the comments thing there.

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Yeah.

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It seems as though censorship, you know, he knows that it's not that.

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Right.

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Like if you have an internet platform that, you know, you own.

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Right.

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And you don't want somebody on there who's a real piece of shit.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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You could call it something like Britter or...

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Kind of, it would be your right.

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GrueTube.

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It's a free country.

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Yeah, it is a free country.

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Weird.

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Yep.

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Strange.

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So weird.

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So strange.

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Oh, Alex gets it and then conveniently doesn't.

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It is almost like they're all making it up as they go along depending on what they think

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will benefit them most in the exact moment they are existing with no long-term plans whatsoever.

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What's profitable and expedient.

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Yeah.

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So Alex gets another call and this actually charmed me quite a bit.

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This was a caller who's writing a paper and wants Alex's help.

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Oh, no!

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Okay, okay.

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I don't think he does a great job.

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Aww.

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But he does do a good job of revealing very quickly that he has no idea what the person

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is talking about.

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There we go.

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Brandy in Texas.

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Brandy, you're on the air.

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Go ahead.

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Hey, Alex.

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Welcome.

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I'm writing a paper for my school about the ethical arguments if there is one for regime

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change in Iran and I just wanted to get your take on the riots that were going on for the

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past 24 hours there.

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Do you think that this is possibly a rehash of the 1953 CIA?

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Well, why don't you talk about the riots for people that missed it and I was going to get

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to that.

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Tell folks what's happening right now.

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Basically, they're rioting in the streets against the democratically elected President

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Khatami over there and trying to oust the Muslim clerics that are...

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And then they put the Shah in after the 50s who tortured people, was incredibly brutal,

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made Saddam look like a choir boy, and then, of course, they got the opposite extreme of

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that with Aljolah Khamenei.

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Well, gee, I wonder if the riots are caused by the CIA.

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Yeah, that's fascinating.

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That response is so weird.

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Because Brandi starts talking about, like, the present day situation in 2003 and Alex

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cuts her off and starts talking about the Shah.

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He just gets into his talking points and the little bullets that he remembers.

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His move there, which she should have called out immediately.

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Oh, yeah.

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That move where he goes, you know, like, oh, I was about to talk about that.

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Why don't you explain what's going on?

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That, it was an instant, like, dude, you have no idea what's going on.

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You fucking liar.

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That is, hey, why don't you explain it for what's going on?

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Why don't you explain it for the rest of the crowd?

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Obviously, I know what you're talking about, but you can explain it better than I could.

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You're more eloquent.

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You've got too many words for you not to explain it over me.

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You're calling in to ask for help with a high school paper, presumably a high school paper,

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maybe college, but you can explain this better than I can.

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I think that there are people whose way of engaging is a little more Socratic, and that

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is something that I would believe from someone else.

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Yes.

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Why don't you explain what's going on?

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Because then you can get a better sense of what their understanding of what's happening is.

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You can figure out, you know, the way you'd like to take the conversation.

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Indeed.

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It's fucking foreign for Alex.

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He rambles about everything.

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He let her talk for five seconds before he started talking about the Shaw.

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He has no idea what she said.

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No idea.

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No idea.

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Um, so this caller also needs a citation.

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God, I want, I want that in just a 16 year old girl.

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Just like, I am writing a paper about one of the most consequential issues of our day.

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I am going to call in to the only man who speaks the truth because you can't trust the

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mainstream media.

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So I'm going to get his take on it, sir.

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Could you explain?

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You don't know, you don't know a fucking thing.

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Ah, the Shaw.

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You don't know a goddamn thing.

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What's the point?

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I'm finally disillusioned with this life.

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CIA bad.

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Um, yeah, so this call also needs a little citation about something Alex has talked about

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and it's, this is not good.

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Not going to go well.

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And also I wanted to ask you a question.

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Um, I'm trying to write about the Neocons and I was wondering how, where can I go to

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get some information on how to connect them to this Leo Strauss?

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Okay.

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That was in Reuters.

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It was in the Times of Asia.

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It was in several other papers that one headline was, Neocons dance to a Straussian waltz.

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Okay.

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This is just an editorial article from the Asia Times that Alex is telling this student

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to use as their primary source about the connection between Leo Strauss and neoconservatism.

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Oh my God.

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That's just an asshole teaching the next generation to do a bad job.

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I think it can make a compelling argument that there's some connection between Strauss

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and the leaders of the neoconservative movement from at least an ideological perspective.

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You'll find some overlaps, but you shouldn't rely wholly on the headline of an op-ed to

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do so.

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Like if you know anything about the subject you're covering, Alex should be able to point

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to, to anything.

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And like, if you're a teacher and someone like in their works cited page, which has

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an editorial, like that's not good.

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That's not going to fly.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it is, it is fascinating to notice that any, any right-wing shithead liberal

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po- or right-wing shithead propagandist is absolutely going to fail any high school test.

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Yes.

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Like any, anything.

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Any, like hold them to the standards that you would hold a high schooler to and they

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will, they will fail miserably.

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Alex has had 15 years to come up with a bibliography for Endgame.

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And if I were a high school teacher, I would throw that in the trash.

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Yeah.

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Incomplete.

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Get out of here.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Alex has another thing he wants to yell at this, uh, young lady about, uh, where he

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can prove that, uh, neo-cons are actually communists.

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Sure.

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What?

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We posted this on Monday, but you can find it at the National Post.

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It's also on infowars.com.

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Go to thenationalpost.ca in Canada.

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They're a big paper.

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Type in the ghost of Trotsky walks the halls of the White House.

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They'll admit that all the neo-cons are admitted fourth international communist.

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Okay.

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Mainstream national post, they're communist.

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All right.

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Well, thank you very much Alex.

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You bet.

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That'll really make your liberal professor stumble around, uh, in a confused deprogrammed

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fashion.

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I doubt it.

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I confused yes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's just another op-ed.

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Excuse me.

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Excuse me, child.

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Where did you get this shit?

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Wait, Alex Jones himself told you to do that?

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Wait, this is 2003.

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You'd be like, who's Alex Jones?

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Who the fuck is Alex Jones?

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Yeah.

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Why are you taking his advice?

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Dear God.

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I'm your fucking teacher.

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This is just like really awful work being mirrored or, uh, being modeled for this student.

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Like it's just, if, if, if they learned from this, like how you're supposed to present

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your information, like we're doomed.

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I think the deflation, I heard a tone of deflation in her voice.

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So I would suggest that she learned from this experience though, not what she was hoping

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to.

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And she will not be the last caller to be disappointed by Alex on this episode.

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Um, so Alex, uh, he's like, you know, that teacher yours, when you tell him that the

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fucking, uh, mainstream media is admitted, the neo-cons are communists.

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He's gonna freak out.

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When he's faced with that, he'll like cannot compute, cannot compute, cannot compute.

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And a lot of times when the smoke's done coming out of their pea brain, they will wake up,

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become gun owners, become pro-liberty constitutionalists and will deprogram out of the left-wing control

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system.

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Alex has no idea anything about this teacher.

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Nope.

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He doesn't know if it's a man.

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He doesn't know if it's a lefty.

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Anyone in education, anyone in education is a leftist communist monster.

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Does not compute.

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Oh man.

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Oh no.

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Oh no.

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You've shown me an op-ed.

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I've got to go buy a gun.

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That is, it is really funny, that foundational myth that they, they have about their knowledge

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of like, it's going to wake up people on the left.

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And their examples are always somebody who's like, I've never paid attention to politics

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at all.

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And these guys showed me a YouTube video and now I want to buy guns.

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It's never somebody who's like, uh, yeah, I have a education.

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It's not going to happen.

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Nope.

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Oh well.

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So Alex, uh, in the present day loves Michael Savage.

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Actually, I haven't heard him talk about it in a while, but he, the last we heard, he

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loved Michael Savage.

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Back in the day.

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Because Savage is a patriot.

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Right.

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They like Trump.

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Sure.

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Um, uh, turns out in 2003, Alex hated Michael Savage.

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You see, when you find out the Michael Savages are dirty, oily, slimy beatniks, then the

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deprogramming can begin.

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You find out these neocons are the scum of the earth, total and complete trash.

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They tell you, oh yeah, we're for your guns while passing gun control.

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Oh yeah, we're for the borders, we'll open the borders.

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See, they're Trojan horses, they're enemy cloaked attack ships.

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Let's recognize them.

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Let's decloak them.

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Let's pull away the veils.

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So what I would like is Alex to wrestle with or have a discussion about what changed about

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Michael Savage between 2003 and let's say 2019.

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Or I would like him to have a conversation about what he misread in 2003 and how wrong

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he was about Michael Savage being a wolf in sheep's clothing and a greasy hippie.

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Right, right.

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I have never considered Michael Savage a, I wrote it down, a dirty, oily, slimy beatnik.

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Well, he was, he was a beatnik kind of guy early on, like in the sixties and seventies.

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Sure.

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Now that, that I understand.

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Yeah.

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I don't, I don't get that in 2003.

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No, no.

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He was hanging out with like Ginsberg and shit.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Way back.

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I remember hearing about that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So that's what Alex is responding to.

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It's like that piece of his history makes him a dirty beatnik.

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And it's like, uh, no.

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So I wouldn't.

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Yeah.

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He wouldn't like to find out very well how the beatniks, especially the ones that were

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involved there, all kind of wound up being nutbags.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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So Alex had that caller who was writing the paper and I think he realized like, well,

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I better pretend that I was going to talk about this Iran stuff.

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I better figure out what I'm going to do.

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And here is a great prediction on Alex's part about what's going to happen in Iran.

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Now they tell us a month ago that they want to destabilize Iran through the student movements

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controlled by global intelligence agencies and reinstall relatives of the Shaw, reinstall

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a hereditary dictatorship, put in a literal monarchy.

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And now the foolish MTV generation over there.

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And I'm not defending the Ayatollahs or any of those guys, but they have free elections

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now.

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They stopped a lot of their restrictions.

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They're a sovereign nation.

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So yeah, that's interesting.

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I don't think this has come to pass at this point.

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The relatives of the Shaw.

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No, I haven't seen the Shaw come back yet.

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No, in a new monarchy.

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Like a King Arthur situation, I imagine is what we're talking about.

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Good, good.

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I mean, Alex is more right than like all other news media stuff.

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He's always right.

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Yeah.

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It's real tough to go from a theocracy back to a monarchy.

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You know, the theocracy, the religious people don't like going back to a monarchy.

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No, I think we're only a few years away from Ahmadinejad.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Alex is going to deal with that.

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Free elections, free elections.

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So Alex, you know, just right about everything.

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Just so, so, so, so right.

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And I don't know how he nailed this prediction, but it was just spectacular.

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And they want to put like a chip in those.

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And now they have weapons.

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That's going to make it a credit card as well.

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Real quick, he's talking about driver's licenses or state IDs.

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Sure.

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So when they bankrupt the economy like Argentina, they will then put your monthly credits.

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They will seize your bank account and allow you $200 a month.

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And then you'll all have to go into government housing and then they'll,

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they are going to form work projects.

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Of course, they'll have to guard the important work projects.

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So Governor Ridge has announced the army will be there with M16s overseeing you at the work project.

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They have weaponry that can melt those chips though.

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Well, you put it in a microwave, but then when you try to go in the store to buy food,

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because of the new national sales tax, you won't be able to buy food, ma'am.

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It's a casual society.

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Yeah, man.

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I mean, he just, I don't know how he was so ahead of his time.

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I love that.

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I want more conversations with callers like that, where he's like,

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ah, they're going to do this whole thing with computer chips,

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and they're going to put it in there and then they're going to kill you.

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There are weapons to melt them.

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But they've got weapons to melt those computer chips.

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And he's like, okay, well, you could put it in a microwave.

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That's one way to do it.

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Okay.

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You can go through there, but then they're going to come back to your home.

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And she's like, ah, but what if I put it in a bigger microwave?

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Like, yeah, just all day.

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What if I put it in a microwave and then freeze it?

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Just go all the way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Also, I find this to be stupid.

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Why?

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Well, one big reason is like, at this point, Alex is less talking about the devil

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being the big bad guy and it's the banks are the big bad guys.

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Why the fuck would the banks destroy their own industry in order to make all state IDs credit

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cards, like they would ruin the entire basis of their financial power.

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No, no, no.

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See, once you have money, you realize it's about power.

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You think money turns into power, but when you have power, you don't need money.

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No, you do.

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They're interconnected in a certain sense.

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You might say that.

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You might argue that.

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Yeah, it does feel like this.

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This era of the show feels a little bit more like sci-fi dystopia stuff.

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Poorly thought out schemes.

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Yes, yes, that's a good way.

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That's what I would describe this as.

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It does have a feeling of Alex just sitting there, laying back being like,

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all right, if I was going to torture everybody, how would I do it?

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Villains acting against their self-interest.

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The power.

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Ta-da.

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So Alex gets another caller and this guy has a great, great ask and it's,

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hey, Alex, you know all those documents you got, why don't you put them on a floppy disk?

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Because we could look at them.

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I think that's a great ask.

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Dun, dun, dun.

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I think that is the most normal question anyone could have for Alex.

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Okay.

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Hey, Alex, I believe you.

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Now, can I get them documents?

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Alex can't do it though.

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Oh, no.

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Roy in Michigan, you're on the air, go ahead.

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Yeah, Alex, the data that you've got there,

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like the manuals from the different police departments and all that type of thing,

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you know, if you was to put that type of thing on the floppy disk,

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I know I would sure be happy to buy the floppy disk from you

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and that I could put it on my computer and take and run off copies of that

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to get that data out there.

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Well, I mean, the manuals, the video clips on CD-ROM,

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the stuff I've got is just repeats of the same stuff over and over again.

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I understand it, but see, if you had it like organized like this,

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take the all the data that you've got from 9-1-1,

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all the different newspaper articles and all that type of thing.

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Here's the problem.

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Okay.

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Here's the problem.

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I did two hours in Salt Lake City yesterday in the morning.

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Sure.

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Then I did a 45-minute interview. Then I did my own show.

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Then I did two live TV shows. I did an hour on Jeff Ranch.

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I then got to bed at about 2 a.m.

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and I was up at 6 30 this morning doing more interviews and then doing some errands.

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So I'm sorry, I just can't do it.

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No, I wasn't thinking about yourself personally,

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but maybe somebody there to look because you have the access to the,

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like I can't get the manuals.

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Where would I get the manuals for?

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I would give it to the police departments as far as they're trading.

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Well, we have some of the manuals and video of them and news articles in the Road to Tyranny.

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This is the, this is a nightmare.

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But I mean, do you actually get your hands up to the manual where you can download it from a floppy disk and distribute it?

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Law enforcement magazines like the Firearms and Weapons of Law Enforcement April issue

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2001 lauded the virtues of torture.

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The I've got other mainstream law enforcement magazines listeners faxed me.

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Okay, that's not what I was asking.

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This is amazing.

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We've got two classic, classic moves by people who have no idea what they're talking about.

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We've got the, why don't you explain it?

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And now we've also got the like, look, I'm just too busy.

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Can I, can I ask also, who the fuck are all these people who are interviewing Alex?

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Like, what are the two live TV shows that he had to go on in the same day?

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Two live TV shows.

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I can't imagine that he's actually this busy in 2003.

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Hey, he would love to put all of these world-shattering documents onto a floppy disk and then sell them to this guy.

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Uh-huh.

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But he just doesn't have the time, do you?

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I would, I would very, very, very sincerely argue, and I would have probably in 2003 too,

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that if Alex was sincere about what he was doing, his stated mission, what he's pretending to be,

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he has a moral obligation to make this a floppy disk.

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Yeah.

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Because if what he's saying is accurate, then everyone must know.

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You know what I mean?

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Yes.

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And if this is the proof, then the proof needs to be seen by everybody.

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Now the problem with that is once you reveal your proof,

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you reveal what can be critiqued.

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Right.

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Once you lay your proof on the table, someone like Dan can come along, take a look at it, and be like,

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oh wait, this doesn't say what you think it says.

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See, this is a lie.

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You're ruining the fun.

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See, this is what happens when I put all of my stuff out here,

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Dan shows up and makes me look like a fool.

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I could have had a 30-year-long career.

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I understand.

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Look, I don't want to be a jerk.

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I don't want to be a jerk.

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And honestly, I'd be on your team if your proof meant anything.

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I really would.

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I would join.

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You know, this is not...

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I wouldn't be a racist.

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This is the problem.

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Conditional love is what I get from you.

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It's not love.

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I want unconditional love.

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No, you give me conditional love.

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You're mistaking believing and love.

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I don't think conditional believing is ever healthy.

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Well, you're not for this place.

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Get out of here.

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I'm going to need to see your computer chip ID

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and put it in the microwave.

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I don't think I have a place in the Republic of Texas.

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I don't think you have a place in the Republic.

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Yeah, I loved that exchange.

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Because that guy, the questions are straight up.

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They are like, all right, yeah, I see what you're saying.

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I know you're busy, but there's got to be someone else who

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could put this together.

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I'm not talking about you personally.

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Oh, yeah.

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Nah.

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Hey, did you know that law enforcement magazines say stuff?

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Sir, I was expecting you to take no for an answer at least

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the second or third time.

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Now that you have gone to number four, I am very angry at you.

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This goes on.

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And actually, Alex has a whole other reason

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why he can't do this, which is amazing.

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More and more excuses.

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You're saying take it all and stick it in one place.

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Just stick it in one place to be able to take it to buy

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those from you.

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Like, I'm sure there in Austin, you could find hundreds

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of guys that are in the same position.

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I have tried to get that information out.

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I can't legally take things out of whole cloth

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and just resell other people's stuff.

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Really?

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Copyright is your argument.

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I've got copyright infringement to worry about.

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Wholesale dump the ADL, the Southern Poverty Law Center,

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and the FBI's training manuals on CDs and sell them.

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See, I wasn't realizing that you had some complication there,

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but I do that.

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I can't say take.

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You could take it.

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Oh, and now he got the positive.

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1984 and reprint it and sell it.

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Uh huh.

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Wow.

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Oh man, did you see that one brief moment of weakness

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that the other guy had?

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And he was like, bounce.

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I can't do it.

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You just can't do it.

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I've won because I've brought up the specter of copyright

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law, and this guy has decided to take that seriously.

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And now this is my reason for not providing evidence.

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This one makes sense.

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I'm fine with this one.

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This one will work.

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So dumb.

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So dumb.

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Oh, that's beautiful.

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Yeah, copyright law.

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Alex can't prove that the globalists have these evil plans

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because he'd get sued for copyright infringement.

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Listen, listen, I would love to tell you that my boss has

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murdered 38 people, but I signed an NDA.

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I'm sorry.

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If true, Alex is a rank coward.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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I know he's lying, but even if you take everything he's

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saying seriously, he's so afraid of getting a copyright

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lawsuit that he can't save the world.

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Listen, I would love to save millions of lives.

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I would love to, but I am shoestring budget here.

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You know, I'm paycheck to paycheck.

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Right.

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Yeah, right.

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And that's why you need to take something like this

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conversation like this that has been thoroughly embarrassing

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and turn it into a money making proposition.

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So that's really the place to start is with my films.

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And you need to get them folks.

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You need to get them and make copies.

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You need to educate people.

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Now we've got the tools to wake up America.

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We've got the tools to educate the people about who the

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real terrorists are about who the real enemy combatants

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are.

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So before we can't put them on your calls and into the

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news, I hope that everybody goes to info wars.com or

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present planet.com.

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And I hope you'll order my films today.

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The solution is always something that will benefit Alex.

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It's something within his revenue streams.

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That is just the direction this ship goes.

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And it's fascinating to see it just play out so predictably

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with this caller who, like, I obviously don't think I would

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agree with much that this caller believes, probably.

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Probably not.

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But I do think that from everything that they're bringing

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to the table and everything, the way the conversation tracks,

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I think they're being sincere.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, and that's why Alex hates it more than anything else

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is because he's coming with a certain level-headed, monotone

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credibility to him.

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Just like that tone of voice is like, listen, I believe you.

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I just want to get everything.

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I want to do what's best for the info war.

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I want to be actively engaged in it.

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I'm willing to.

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Clearly I'm dedicated.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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And I just need these tools.

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How am I supposed to get these manuals that you have?

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It's just sad.

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That is sad.

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That is one of those ultimate, like, if that guy didn't

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lose confidence there.

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Copyright law.

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If that guy didn't lose confidence with that, then you're

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in Alex's crew forever, because that's a don't meet your

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hero's level of like, oh, no, you're a massive disappointment,

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aren't you?

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Copyright law.

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Oh, shit.

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So Alex gets back to the story about the family in Waltham,

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Massachusetts, and we can finally get some details on that.

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Here's an amazing story, and I'm going to get these people

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on the show.

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You'll be hearing on the show.

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They'll come on.

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This is out of the Metro West Daily News out of Massachusetts.

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Waltham, a legal battle over two homeschooled children

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exploded into a seven hour standoff yesterday when they

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refused to take a standardized test.

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Again, a legal battle over two homeschooled children

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exploded into a seven hour standoff yesterday when they

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refused to take a standardized test ordered by the Department

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of Social Services.

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So this is almost two hours into the show now where Alex

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finally gives details about this story that he started the

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show talking about.

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So it's, you know, this family got in trouble because they

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didn't want to take a test.

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Sure.

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It seems like on the second telling, there's an additional

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bit of information.

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There's some more details.

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He does say the people's names and, like, you can just search

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for these sentences that he's cold reading.

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You can find what he's talking about.

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Yeah.

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It's pretty hard to find the actual article that Alex is

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reading, but you can find the text copy and pasted on all

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kinds of right wing message boards, mostly around mid June

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2003, right when this episode is airing.

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Sounds about right.

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If I had to guess, I would say that Alex is probably just

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reporting this straight off AR15.com.

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The most full version of this article I can find is on Free

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Republic's message board.

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And I don't think that this is a real article.

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I mean, I think it might be a real article, but it's possibly

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like, I don't know how much of this is.

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Is it apocryphal?

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Kind of like that meme where the soldiers in the professor's

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classroom and the professor says something, the soldier

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stands up and he's like, I love America.

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And then the professor gives him 50 bucks or whatever it is.

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Have you ever seen those memes?

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No, it's the same thing.

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So what I'm talking about is this article quotes the

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Department of Social Service worker named Susan Etskovitz

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as saying, quote, we have legal custody of the children,

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and we will do with them as we see fit.

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They are minors, and they will do what we tell them to.

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Okay.

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I absolutely do not believe that's a quote, but it's presented

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as such in this article.

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But if you look closely, you'll see that this quote is

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actually, you know, it's being reported in this article,

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but it's actually a secondhand thing.

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No, that's not a surprise.

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It's a quote from Etskovitz that was relayed to the reporter

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by the family, but is being included in the article as if

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it's a quote.

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Great. This is not appropriate presentation of the story,

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and it speaks volumes about whoever originally wrote this

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piece. Do you think the family might have had, like, I don't

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know, maybe like a personal interest that might have colored

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perhaps their interpretation of the quote?

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Yeah.

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And the article might be a little bit one sided.

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Oh, yeah, that's possible.

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As best as I can tell, this was one in a long string of

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incidents involving this family's approach to homeschooling.

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Apparently, the district that they lived in, the school

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district, their policy about homeschooling requires that

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educational plans be filed and that there is a set grading

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system in place for the students.

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Two things that this family refused to comply with,

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according to the article.

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Sure.

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So also, according to the article, the parents lost legal

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custody of the children in 2001, but it doesn't say what

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for exactly.

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And overall, this is a mess, and it's not just about a test.

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Yeah, I'm really...

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When they said it was about a test, I was like, let's see

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what happens, but now I'm starting to guess that there's

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more than the test.

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Well, maybe the kernel of the present story has to do with

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this test, but it's not about that.

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Right.

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What's going on is a much larger situation that, you know,

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a lot of that context and the stuff that fills in the picture

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is stuff that Alex is conveniently ignoring.

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Right.

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Because this story is a prop for him, and actually looking

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at the details and reporting out the story as it exists

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probably make it a less useful prop.

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Yeah.

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And why would you do that?

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They don't seem like the most sympathetic heroes that he's

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trying to paint them as.

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Yeah.

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And, you know, I mean, it's just so predictable.

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Like, Alex just reads through this story and listen to this.

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Let me read what this monster said again.

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Let me find it.

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Let me find what this DSS worker said.

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Let me find it.

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We have legal custody.

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This is a quote.

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We have legal custody of the children, and we will do them as...

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I'm going to read it again.

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This is a quote.

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We have legal custody of the children, and we will do with

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them as we see fit.

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DSS worker Susan Eszterkowicz told the Bryants in their

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Gale Street home.

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She continued.

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They are miners, and they do what we tell them to do.

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Close quote.

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I like that the close quote was still in the deal.

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That is really nice that he did the voice.

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That's commitment to the bit.

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Yeah.

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Close quote.

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Did Moskovitz include that in her quote?

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Yeah, probably.

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Close quote.

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I will kill the children.

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Close quote.

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Make sure you quote me on that.

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But at that point, do not quote this part of the statement.

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One of the things that's so important, though, is now we

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know why he did the voice.

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Yeah.

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Thankfully, that's been cleared up.

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That has been cleared up.

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It is nice.

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It is nice to know now.

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Yeah.

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So the only part of this story that he really latches onto

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and sort of can really bring to life is this quote that's

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a secondhand thing that the family said that this lady said

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that's being presented as a quote in this story.

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Yeah.

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It's just trash.

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This is just bad.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is that level of dispute that you find on a Judge Judy

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episode where they're telling you the story about Moskovitz

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and then Judge Judy asks three questions and they're like,

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okay, well, maybe she didn't say that.

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It's Etskovitz.

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Maybe she didn't say exactly.

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Yes.

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Maybe she didn't say that in word for word.

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I'm not in court.

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I wouldn't say she said that word for word.

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Yeah.

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You know, but she said it.

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Yeah, I find this to be...

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I mean, this is kind of what Alex's niche is like at this

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point. I mean, he just finds, like, a couple of headlines

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and rambles about them.

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Sometimes does some characters.

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Yeah, that's an easy job.

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It's pretty sweet.

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Yeah, that's nice.

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That's nice.

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All you're doing is TV interviews and avoiding work that

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could help people.

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I guess if I were him, I might have stayed right in that

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sweet pocket.

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That sweet pocket.

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Yeah, that's where you want to go.

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That's where you want to go.

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Like Icarus, he flew too close to the sun.

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Can't do it.

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With all those supplements.

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Gonna make you sad.

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So he's got another story, and this is actually the story

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that he was talking about earlier, which is there.

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He has his headlines about the shooting at schools by the

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SWAT teams.

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Sure.

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He said there's two stories today.

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Okay.

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He's got one.

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But then look who's really doing stuff with guns.

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Bay 9 News.

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Police officer gun goes off during drill inside Manatee

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High School in Florida.

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Training drills are nothing new for Brandon police officers,

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but a live bullet fired inside a high school is certainly

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not procedure.

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Deborah Green thought it was a clear backfire.

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A car backfiring.

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I was inside cleaning and heard a loud noise, said Green.

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Pretty scary.

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As it turns out, the noise was a gunshot during a routine

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drill on Tuesday at Brandon.

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Police officers gun actually went off inside the Manatee

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High School classroom, according to the school board.

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Critical incident response report.

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The bullet went into a classroom wall.

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No one was heard, but the incident left some wondering

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how this could have happened.

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Well, they killed top of the year last year in Fort Worth

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and a drill with kids in the room blew his head off in

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front of him.

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That was nice.

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Last year, they shot a kid in the face in up in Detroit

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in a drill in the school.

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Just shoot a little kid in the face.

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That's okay.

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So again, I find some of the details definitely wrong about

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the past drills that Alex is talking about and some of them

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questionable.

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I'm not entirely sure.

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And also, this drill that in the Florida thing, I couldn't

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get a sense of if there were kids around at all.

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Again, it's during the summer.

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Right.

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So I think if the SWAT teams ran in, started blowing children

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away and themselves, then yes, there would have had to be

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kids there.

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In the article about this Florida drill, there's a reference

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to the football coach who was having a camp, and he didn't

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even hear the gunshot.

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So presumably there's a summer football camp that's going

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on outside in a way, and maybe they're in some area of

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the school where nobody is at.

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One of their guns went off because they didn't empty the

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holster or empty the chamber, and it went to the wall.

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Sure.

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Like, obviously awful and bad, but not rising to the level

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that Alex is presenting.

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Again, it was not SWAT teams going in and blowing everyone

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and themselves away.

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No, no.

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And that seems like a dumb way to talk about this.

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That is a terrible way to talk about this.

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So we got one last clip.

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Alex gets another call, and man, it seems like a theme on

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this show.

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Yeah, I just wanted to track that particular article down.

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You mentioned the Fourth Socialist International, and

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then you remember that article about Wolsey in World War

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Four? Is that still available at your website?

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Do you have any idea?

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Well, yeah, we post the articles, hundreds of them a day,

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and you can go find them and be like...

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Okay.

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Wow.

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I like that.

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I like that.

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Go.

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Yeah.

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Be gone with thee.

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I think he might have had a better answer if he hadn't

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have dealt with this same kind of thing twice on this episode.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Caller's needing some kind of like, hey, what are you

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talking about?

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Look, copyright law.

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Honestly, I bet he remembers this show.

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Three callers asking him for fucking documents.

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That must have been his worst show in the history of the

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world.

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It's pretty nuts, because it doesn't happen that often.

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Right.

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He remembers this specific day.

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His nightmares about it.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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People won't stop asking me for proof.

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I find it so interesting that he's hung up on copyright law

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when he, without permission, reposts other people's news

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stories on InfoWars and re-headlines them.

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Sure, but he's paying them in exposure.

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Oh, sure.

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And he's paying for their content.

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Well, he'd be paying the SPLC in exposure, too.

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Well, he can't pay the globalist for exposure, okay?

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And he's not going to give him money in a lawsuit.

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So there's just nothing he can do.

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Yeah.

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He signed an NDA deal.

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Holy shit.

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Very unconvincing display today here from Alex.

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Not good.

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I'm not going to get over that that dude was like, oh, well,

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copyright.

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Copyright law.

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That was the one where he was like, well, that's international

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or intergalactic treaty shit all over again.

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These people believe in weird, intractable laws for some reason.

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Maritime.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I don't understand it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I would like it if Alex was just like, all right,

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the copyright law thing didn't work.

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And then he just yells tariffs.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So just whatever.

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Yeah.

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Just yell something.

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I won't submit to a FOIA request.

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Yeah.

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So we come to the end of this.

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And Alex, still waiting on that floppy disk, baby.

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Let's get that thing put together.

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Well, we do have that Microsoft Encarta CD.

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That was pretty heavily used in Endgame, right?

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Well, I mean, you've got to go get a physical copy of the CD.

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Those links don't work anymore.

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That's going to be tough.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, we'll be back.

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I think this episode's a little bit shorter.

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And I've had a little bit of stuff going on this week.

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So I've been a little bit busy.

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And also, Alex in the present day is on time out.

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And I think it's hilarious that these callers keep asking him.

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Just kept going.

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And he's got nothing.

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So good.

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But we will be back, Jordan, on Monday for episode 600.

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It's true.

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The spectacular Plum 600.

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It's going to be hard for me not to drink that before.

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You know what?

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Listen, you're a performer.

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Not that good.

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You can drink it before and then really ramp it up.

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On show day, you've got to bring it, though.

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No, I don't think I can.

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I don't think I can do that.

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I can't artificially.

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Look, there might be artificial flavors.

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But I can't be artificial.

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No, don't you do it.

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All right, we'll be back.

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All right, we'll be back.

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But until then, we have a website.

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We do.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at Knowledge Fight and I go to bed Jordan.

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Yep, we'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I'm Daryl Rundis.

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And now here comes the sex robots.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.