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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Damn and Jordan, I am sweating

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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for knowledgefight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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Shang, we are the bad guys, knowledgefight

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Damn and Jordan, knowledgefight

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Rattle her, rattle her, rattle her

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Need, I need money, rattle her, rattle her

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Andy in Kansas, Andy in, Andy in, stop it

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Andy in, Andy in Kansas, Andy in, Andy in, it's time to pray

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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knowledgefight

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knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan

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Um, Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, I can sit around, drink novelty beverages

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and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan

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Jordan

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Dan

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Jordan

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Quick question for you

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today?

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My bright spot today, it might be the same as yours and that is

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Oh, I bet it's not

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Okay, well in that case, thank you to the Godawful Movies podcast

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Oh yeah, yeah

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Our episode came out with them on Tuesday

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and it was a lot of fun to see the response that people had

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I think we have a lot of crossover between audiences

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and it was so fun hanging out and talking about a dumb

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Chuck Norris fighting demons movie

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It was a blast

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I was so terrified when we recorded that

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that none of it would make sense

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Like, the plot doesn't make sense if you watch the movie

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and then hearing the five of us try and

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piece it together, yeah, no, no

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I've never done a podcast where you just like

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break down the plot of a movie before

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Yeah, yeah

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And so for me, I was very self-conscious of like

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there's no connective tissue here, this does not make sense

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Oh, but everybody seemed to enjoy it, so thanks to them

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and if you haven't checked that out, you should give it a whirl

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Yes, very much so

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I gave it a little bit of a listen and

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they told us many times, you know, like

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hey, I'm just trying to move along

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don't worry about it if you keep talking and we're both like

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man, if you don't literally tell us to shut up

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we're gonna keep talking

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We can't stop

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No, I was literally listening to that like

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I missed at least a half hour of stuff that I wanted to put in there

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Yeah, yeah, I know, that's definitely true

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There were more thoughts

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Yeah, we could have done so much longer

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Could have been like one of our Rogan episodes

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At a certain point, I was half expecting them to leave

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and just be like, hey, you guys finish it out

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Yeah, we'll be back

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Yeah, yeah

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So what about you, what's your bright spot?

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My bright spot, Dan, I will guarantee it's not the same as yours

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because it is

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Opening Day Baseball, baby!

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Okay, yeah, that is different

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Yeah, that's different

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I was gonna say you could guarantee because you already know what mine is

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Yeah, well, obviously

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So that's a stupid bet for me to take at that point

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Well

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Congratulations on the sticks

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Yeah, Opening Day Baseball

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Don't congratulate me, it's not like I'm getting my cup of coffee this year

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You enjoy watching these guys get out there and play the game America's past time

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I do, I do

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Um

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You know, I think the Ricketts family should have been burnt at the stake for many reasons

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but what they're doing to the Cubs is now at least number three on the list

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Who's looking good this year? What teams are in, who are you keeping your eye on other than the Cubs?

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Uh, other than the Cubs? Well, I mean, I'm looking at Los Angeles

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The LA Angels because Shohei Otonori is my favorite baseball player

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Sure

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By far, he can throw a 98 mile an hour fastball

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He can hit 500 foot dingers, Dan

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It doesn't get better than that

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How are the Expos looking?

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The Expos are looking dead, uh, non-existent

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Uh

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The Expos are looking like a Blockbuster franchise right now, how do you feel?

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Uh oh, I gotta call my booking, I made some bad bets

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Uh, well, you'll get there in 1999

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Um, who's that, uh, is Johnny Damon still around?

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He looking good this year?

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What else you got?

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I don't know

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I want, I want more names from you

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Albert Pujols?

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Uh, actually Albert Pujols is on the Angels and he is still around

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All my buddies used to love, uh, Pujols because he was on the, of course, he was on the St. Louis

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He was on the Cardinals, yeah

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And he had that weird stance, he would stand there real weird

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Still does, still does

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One of the best hitters in the history of the game

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Yeah, he's very good

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He seems like a good guy too, from everything I can tell, right?

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Uh, yeah, that's what I've heard

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I don't know

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He seems like a nice dude

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Seems like a, I don't know

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Nobody's ever been, like, gone out of their way to be like, hey Jordan, have you heard how much of an asshole Albert Pujols is?

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How's, uh, how's Roberto Clemente looking this year?

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Not as good as you might hope

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I've got bad news for you, Dan

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Oh, no

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So, Jordan, um, today we got an interesting episode to go over

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As I promised, we're back in the present day

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Indeed

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So today we're going to be talking about March 30th and 31st, 2021

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Blackjack

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So what do you think about them apples?

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Oh, no

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He's thinking about, nah, it's not going to work

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That bit's not going to, that's not going to fly

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No, but I do love that drop

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I have to use it for something

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No, it is good

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I think you can tell me, you can use it whenever you have something

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shitty to say to me instead

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How do you like them apples?

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Exactly

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Alright, Blackjack

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Anyway, it's interesting, couple of days, infuriating in many ways

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Kind of bizarre in another way

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There's something that I think is really interesting

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that I think bears talking about

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but it also, Alex's position on it almost doesn't matter

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So this is my way of, as is tradition, underselling what we're about to talk about

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Right, right, right, right

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In advance, this doesn't matter

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Nope

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But before we get down to business, let's do something that does matter

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which is name some new wonks

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Oh, that's a good idea

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So first, I'm Dan and it's 2020

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One Blackjack, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Next, Knowledge Fighting God Awful Movies is my kink

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Give me more please, sirs, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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Next, William K.W. III, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you, Billy Kay

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Thank you

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Next, Spider Leadership, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much, Spider Leadership

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Thank you

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About time they started pulling their weight around here

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Looking at you, mercantile dogs and archaeologist cats

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Yeah

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Next, I sold Dan weed, not guns, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Did I say that someone sold me guns?

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Was there a possibility?

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No one sold me guns

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No, was this like an old friend of yours in high school?

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Maybe

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Who were like, you had the opportunity and in the left hand I have a gun

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I don't

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And in the right hand I have some weed, you can only choose one

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I don't recall that, I know that I have bought weed from a lot of people over the course of my life

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And I do know that there was one person that I knew

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I don't think it's this person, because I have no, I don't know

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But there was one person that I knew who shall go nameless

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Who did sell me weed for a while

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And then later I found out that he was also selling guns

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Oh

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But I didn't know that at the time

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Well, I think we know it now

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I don't think that that's this person, it would be bizarre if it was

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That would be bizarre

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But anyway, thank you so much, you're a policy wonk

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Are there any people who have been with the same weed dealer for like 30 years?

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You know, like some people who are like, I just only go to this one store for my, like I'm a Kohl's person

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Do you have like a, I'm a Kohl person

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I wouldn't be surprised

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I mean, you know, I think you have a bond that's formed

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I think Kohl's gets arrested less

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And that disrupts relationships sometimes

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Their loyalty program is a little bit better

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So finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who is now a technocrat

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Thank you so much, Neve C. You are now a technocrat

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I'm a policy wonk

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Crikey mate, that's fantastic, have yourself a brew

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this Watson, alright?

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Let's just get down to business

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We ain't making that money off that heroin

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large

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I declare info war on you

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Thank you so much, Neve

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Yes, thank you very much, so much

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Yeah, so Jordan, today we have a fun out of context drop

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Alex is violent towards animals

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Sure

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And this is right in that line

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Sometimes you gotta hit a mule upside the head with a 2x4

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Whoa

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That doesn't sound true

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Sometimes you have to, sometimes you are left with no choice

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I would like more context on the situation where I have no choice but to hit it with a 2x4

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Well, if this wasn't an out of context drop, I could give you the entire context

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Because Alex spends about 10 fucking minutes on this show

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Talking about how sometimes if there's like a cow that's being eaten by fire ants and it's pregnant

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And you gotta get it to safety, you gotta hit it with stuff in order to get it to move

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I was gonna go with pure zombie situation

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But I will accept that if there is a cow being eaten by fire ants

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You need to get this cow away from the fire ants

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You gotta hit it with a board

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Sure

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And the liberals would tell you, no, don't hit it with a board

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I'm still gonna go with maybe try getting rid of the fire ants first

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Maybe try a hose

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He spends probably two segments talking about that

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That seems right

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It's outrageous

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That seems right

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Does he have enough time to get to the big news?

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No

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Oh, okay

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So here we start on the 30th and I'm gonna give you a spoiler in advance

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I turned this episode off

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It got very boring

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But here's how it starts

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Wow, it is official mainstream news

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That the COVID lockdowns are designed to make us live in our houses and be prisoners

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To quote, save the earth from carbon

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You know, Debo said it years ago

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They had a plan a few months ago

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They said how great the lockdowns are, have them permanently to save the earth

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Have robots deliver us all our food, making us obsolete, depopulating

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Sure

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But now the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Associated Press

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Without me even looking today

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Wait, what?

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Just everywhere are saying

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What?

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We need to be prisoners and never leave our homes again

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I mean, they are just going for full Stockholm syndrome

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I was like, oh, wow

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How could this not have turned out to be a banger of an episode, Dan?

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I was like, wow, this is gonna be something he's really gonna need to substantiate

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Without even looking, I saw these things that didn't happen

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How amazing is that, Dan?

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I think that one of the things about our show that I enjoy is that you'd hear something like that

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And most people would be like, no, it didn't

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Yeah

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I'll dig into things, but today I just felt like, no, no

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The media did not say, did not announce that they want you to be prisoners in your home

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I'm fine, we've been over this territory so many times that this is just one I'm gonna be like, no

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Absolutely not, go fuck yourself

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Listen, I give you more than the benefit of the debt, and you have broken me, sir

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I don't feel broken, I just don't care

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I'm gonna choose my battles, and this is one I'm just gonna be like

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Wise, that's wise

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Tell me what you're talking about, and then maybe we'll get into it, but probably not

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Because I know the only citation that he ends up giving in the first 40 minutes of the show

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Is a fucking editorial that doesn't say what he says it says

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There's a problem with that

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So I don't care

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Anyway, this is where we get really misogynistic

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Sure

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You heard him bring up Stockholm Syndrome there

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I thought it was the moment he started speaking is when we get really misogynistic, but here we go

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Whoo-nelly

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They are just going for full Stockholm Syndrome takeover

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Because they know at least 30% of the public, mainly women, will go under Stockholm Syndrome

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Because it's so authoritarian, they can't believe it's actually happening

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And they are going to submit to the tyranny, nothing against women

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But it's known in every psychological study in Rome and Babylon that

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When an army would take over the city

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Most of the women within minutes would start fighting for the enemy

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As soon as it was clear that the enemy had taken over

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And they would rat out their husbands, rat out their children, help execute them

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If they thought it was for the good of the community

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That's why when the country is conquered or the place is conquered

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You don't kill the women

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That's why, who was the house slave in Rome?

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In Africa, who were the house slaves?

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Africans had as many slaves as anybody

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You brought women in the house

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You kept the men out in the fields

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And that's the system

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Wow, that's something else, man

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I don't even know where that begins

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Yeah, it's a lot of thoughts and a lot of them are dumb

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Okay, okay, alright

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So then, okay, okay?

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Mm-hmm

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Okay, Dan, we have historical records

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Of so many cities that were conquered

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We have psychological studies from Rome

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Yes, we've got so many psychological studies, double blind studies

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Rome did a lot of double blind studies back then

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Whenever invading armies will show up

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Women will immediately start fighting, within minutes

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Start fighting for the enemy

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Women are traitors

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I'm confused as to whether or not he knows the

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Severe number of underground, boy, I don't know

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Resistance movements that were started, helmed

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Almost like a locomotive, maybe, that went underground

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I think there's one big one that it's hard to put back

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So first thing to clear up, Stockholm Syndrome, as Alex understands it, isn't real

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It's something that's depicted in dramatic movies a lot

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But in terms of real life instances of someone exhibiting the signs of Stockholm Syndrome

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It's exceedingly rare to find a real case

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Yeah, what it really is, is that the cops are bad and reasonable people are like

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Oh yeah, you guys are bad

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And you can find some similarities to the behaviour within domestically violent situations

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Some people will make those parallels, but that's not what we're talking about

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That's not what the depiction of Stockholm Syndrome is

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Second, the image of history that Alex is presenting is also not real

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In movies, perhaps, invading groups don't kill women when they killed all the men in a particular town

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But that's not how things have gone generally

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No, they killed all the women, it wasn't hard

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Always, but sometimes, a lot of the time

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And the exception generally is when these invading groups would take the women as property

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After conquering a particular group

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And it wasn't because these women just decided it would be a good idea to join the other team

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Oh shit, now it's time to be property!

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Guys, it's time, woo!

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Let's get enslaved!

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Let's do it, concubine me, baby!

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Also, it may be the case that most depictions of persons enslaved inside households in the media are often women

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But that's also historically not something that was universal

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For instance, William Wells Brown and Lewis Clark are both examples of enslaved persons in the American South

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Who were men whose duties were in the house

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Both of whom wrote books about their experience that Alex could learn from, if he'd like

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Alex's understanding of history is based almost entirely on movies and vague feelings he's gotten about history from media

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Literally nothing he's saying is based on reality at all, but it feels like it if you just kind of assume fiction and reality are the same

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And that's all that's going on here, man, and it is grim, his vision of what, like, that's a painfully chauvinistic view of

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Yeah, yeah, you know, and it's not like, you know, movies aren't entertaining and stuff

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But I think the fact that most movies have been written by white men over the years has probably ruined a bit of our good historical interpretation

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I think that might have something to do with his ridiculous beliefs

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Could be, could be, could be, you know, but no, no, Aaron Zurgen's good, yeah, never mind

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Alex has this deep historical knowledge, and I shouldn't be poo-pooing him so much because, like, I mean, he's got a stack of papers

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I have a stack of just unbelievable COVID-19 news, but just look at this stack, ladies and gentlemen

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Look at this that dovetails with it

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Your radio listener, you can just search into anything I'm saying and pull it up, what the crew does

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Look at this, AP, Dear Normal, were you really that great in the first place? By a Sophie Rosenbaum, this reads like the darkest satire ever written

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So this is nonsense, and we'll get to this here in a second, but here is Alex sort of talking about the editorial a little bit

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Look at this, AP, Dear Normal, were you really that great in the first place? By a Sophie Rosenbaum, this reads like the darkest satire ever written

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But it's real, and I'm gonna take the time out, even though this is four nightmare pages of evil, and I'm gonna read the damn thing on air, bottom of the hour

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And it says, we're gonna lock you in your house, and you're gonna love it, and you're only gonna leave when we say you can, and it's not about the COVID, it's about the Earth

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Doesn't say any of those things

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That sounds right

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This is an article that's an editorial presenting an opinion held by this writer

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Alex is getting mad at an editorial and pretending that it somehow is the globalist admitting that they don't want anything to go back to normal, and it's all about climate, COVID's not even real

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Furthermore, it was not addressed to Alex

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No, it was addressed to Normal

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Yeah, he's very abnormal

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So Alex has nothing to do with this

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If you read this editorial, it's not dark satire, and it's not advocating that we stay in lockdown forever

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It's this writer expressing that as the world goes back to what we're looking at as normal, we run the risk of not living as ambitiously as we can

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A better world is possible, and the urge for things to go back to some idea of normal might get in the way of achieving things that, you know, are good

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From the article, quote, without normal, the path forward is more open, the opportunity is perhaps broader

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What if there's a whole lot of amazing that stands to be lost if normal returns?

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What if instead of banking on normalcy, we focused on that one-of-a-kind ability to adapt and evolve?

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Maybe that's the way forward, instead of simply reconciling with what was and trying to recreate something that's already had its day

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It's an interesting position that this author brings up, and it's not a unique perspective in terms of things that I've read, certainly

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Yeah, yeah

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But it's absolutely not what Alex is lying about, but it is a good headline for him to riff off of

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Sure, yeah, yeah

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But it's just nonsense, and if he's read it, this is embarrassing for him to be worked up about it

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He has absolutely not read it

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Yeah

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Not a chance

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Did he read it on air?

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I don't know, probably, maybe after I turned it off

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I told you, I turned off this episode

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That's fair, that is fair

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And part of the reason that I turned off this episode was, like, that misogyny at the beginning was pretty wild

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That's astonishing

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Yeah

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But, because it's not a direct attack, you know, we're so used to misogyny being directed at women in the present

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But to create a weird fictional, like, Adam and Eve story out of all women throughout history when being conquered

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Well, all psychological studies have shown that within minutes they start fighting for the enemy

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See, I feel like this is not true

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This is just not true

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What psychol-

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Hmm, how would you even take that psychol-

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Is there a psychologist that's in there on the ground, like, oh shit, somebody just got conquered, we gotta get there fast

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Otherwise they're gonna turn before we've studied it properly

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I don't know

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But it was kind of interesting in a, you know, like, oh, you seem weird today

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And I kind of got interested in, like, oh, is this gonna continue?

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And it didn't, and it just became this aggressively long, protracted, boring stretch of immigrant bashing

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Sure

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In such a way that really, really is, like, unacceptable

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Un-okay, yeah

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And I'll play a little clip and then, you know, we'll sort of discuss why I needed to turn this off

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And then we saw a Daily Caller report saying, oh, there are hundreds of illegals with their children and others

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And unaccompanied children at the airport in South Texas

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Loading onto planes with no ID

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Loading onto planes with bags of cash and envelopes of cash

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Controlled by the Democratic Party being sent all over the United States to disappear into God knows what

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Encounterment of federal and state law, which Biden hadn't signed an executive order

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They could be overturned by courts, they haven't changed the federal law

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This is all lawlessness

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So he goes on and just on and on, beating up and saying, like, just horrendous things

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About anybody who may be an immigrant

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And, you know, the effect of this isn't something that is positive

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It's not something that's even interesting

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This is just an incitement

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Yeah

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I think when he's talking about these people who are alleged to be undocumented folks

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Who are being given bags of money and then sent to disappear into the-

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That's only going to make the audience suspicious of everybody that they see

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That they might deem to be possibly an immigrant who might have a bag of cash

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And just disappeared in the middle of America

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If he said-

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It's irresponsible as hell

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Yeah, if he said Jew, we'd just be like, oh, okay, cool, you're a Nazi, now stop speaking forever

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Because that's what he's- he's doing that

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He's Nazi-ing

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It's not something that can really be interestingly discussed outside of rebuke

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Yeah

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It's not something that I have much to bring to the table other than, fuck this, this is unacceptable

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We've talked a ton about, like, specific narratives and things that he deploys against, you know, immigrant populations and what have you

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But this was just, like, it just should be turned off

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Yeah

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It's not even, like, I don't know how else to say it

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We should have a drop that's just a big, like, stamp sound and then it says Protocols of the Elders of Zion

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And then we just move on, like, yup, boom

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And so there was one more thing that I heard, and this is, like, I was in that place

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And I think I still needed something else to kick me over the, like, turn this off

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And this is where I turned it off

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And then the FBI announces two days ago they're waiving all background checks for the people at the facilities and the foster homes where they're sent

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So they're coming in, no ID, not with their parents in many cases, as young as two years old

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They're being put on buses and airplanes and flown to be picked up by random people and never to be seen again

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But then separately you'll hear National Amber Alert, 12-year-old girl grabbed out of her backyard

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Massive man hut shuts down two counties as they search the grid for the kidnapper

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But then you've got massive death, massive numbers of dead women and children found by the thousands on the border

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Look it up, and it's just, oh, that's not going to be a news item, that's not going to be a story

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So here's the headline right here, out of town hall, FBI waives background check requirements for those housing unaccompanied minors

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So Alex is talking about people at emergency intake centers, the FBI waived part of the background check that needs to be done for people working at those centers

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He's lying about this story, but what he brings up is still an actual issue

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And that's where also I feel really like I hate him, because this is a real issue

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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And I'm not going to agree with him, but I'm also not going to disagree fully, but he is still lying

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Right, right, right, right

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So it's true that the FBI has waived fingerprint-based background checks for people who are being employed to work at emergency intake sites run by the Department of Health and Human Services

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That is not a good thing, and I don't support that, but it is not what Alex is suggesting

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This doesn't apply to people who are taking people into foster care, it's just for people who work at those sites who are quote

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Supervised by federal employees or others who have passed fingerprint-based background checks

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Again, not what I would say is a great idea, but it's not what Alex is saying

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Also, Alex is claiming that they've waived all background checks for these individuals, which is not true

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They still have to pass public records background checks, but they're not using fingerprinting

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The reason to do this is to expedite the process, which makes some sense, but again, I would probably prefer that they err on the side of caution

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Sure

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I was really curious about this story, so I dug around a little more and I found this story in the Associated Press

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Quote, US waived FBI checks on staff at growing teen migrant camp

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That story was from November 2018 under Trump

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Beyond the background checks waiver, Trump also reduced the access to mental health professionals for people at the camp, which was a mess

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Even worse, in December 2018, the AP reported on news from an emergency detention center in Florida called Homestead

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Where quote, the staff isn't being screened for child abuse and neglect at the Miami-based emergency detention center

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Alex wasn't mad about any of these things because Trump's administration was doing it, and there was no ability to score points off it

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He doesn't care about the well-being of immigrants, and when it's a Democrat president in charge

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He just uses the mismanagement of immigration as a prop to attack his enemies

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When his hero Trump is the one mistreating these people, Alex isn't okay with it, he supports it

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And I don't want to bring these cases or these instances up of Trump and his administration doing this as a what about thing

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I absolutely don't want to do that, and I'm not trying to score points on Alex

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Wow, there's no point in, I mean, not, you know

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I'm discussing my frustration with like, this is a problem and it's still a problem

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It's not something that is okay now because Biden is in charge, we need better solutions to these things

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Yeah, no, it's still monstrous

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Yes, and the FBI background check thing, the aspect of it, I understand the explanation that's being given

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I'm not sure that explanation is acceptable

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Right

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I don't know, but I would be, I would have that exact same response in Trump's instance and now

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Yeah

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And it's just offensive to see Alex spend half an hour demonizing immigrants in such a way

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that it stands to potentially put people in danger and then to use them and mismanagement of

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immigration intake centers like this as a prop for him to use to attack Democrats

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No, I absolutely don't care what face or what party affiliation you have

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If I am anywhere near those people, I was screaming their faces

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This is the best you fucking have, this is what you're gonna do

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Yeah

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Fuck off

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And so, you know, I just got kind of fed up and I turned it off

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So now we'll jump to the 31st

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Because I thought like, there's probably more interesting stuff to talk about

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We've heard him talk about this kind of thing a lot

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Sure

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It's very kind of worn out territory for Alex

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Totally

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So there is some news and thankfully Alex has got some big bombshells on the 31st

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Okay, all right

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Working on the weekend like usual, down in the deep end like usual

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Wow, we're in the center of the zeitgeist

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I barely just slid into my chair here because we've got so many big breaking news stories

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that we're working on right now that are so exclusive and so important

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Big bombshells

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Okay

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So exclusive

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Big old bombshells

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So exclusive, so I assume, and when he says so exclusive

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Uh huh

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I put this story at between one and six years old

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No, it's current

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Okay

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I can tell you I've talked to the highest levels of the media food chain about the congressman Matt

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Gates situation, I've also talked to his good personal longtime friend and confidant Roger Stone

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I have made a lot of phone calls and ascertained exactly what's going on with the whole Matt Gates

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extortion deep state takeover, Roger Stone joins us coming up in the second hour today

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and he's still getting all the details together right now but it definitely Matt Gates is telling

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the truth

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This is weird

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Yeah, Roger Stone's coming on to talk about a sex trafficking incident he's definitely

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never engaged in in his life before

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It broke this weekend that the justice department began investigating representative Matt Gates

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about the possibility that he had engaged in a sexual relationship with a 17 year old girl

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and possibly had paid her to travel or paid to travel with her which would possibly constitute

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sex trafficking

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Yeah

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Gates claims that this is part of an elaborate plan to extort him and as far as I'm concerned

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I hate Matt Gates and I think he's a real piece of political shit but I need to see

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more about this investigation before I can come to any conclusions on the matter

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The claimed actions are too severe and I don't want to do a disservice to the alleged crime

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by using an accusation to score points against a politician I don't like

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Totally

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According to the New York Times this investigation began under the Trump administration so it's

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going to be hard to allege this is a plot from the left

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Deep state

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It's said that this has to do with a Florida politician who had been an ally of Gates's

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named Joel Greenberg who is the former tax collector of Seminole County

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This guy is currently facing charges quote including sex trafficking of a child and

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financially supporting people in exchange for sex at least one of whom was an underage girl

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We will see what happens with this as more information comes out but even if he's telling

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the truth and this is all part of an extortion plot against him Matt Gates is still a pile

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of garbage

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Also like if it is an elaborate plan I really hope that whoever is doing this

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extortion against him is arrested

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Yeah

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The thing that I don't want is neither of these things to get prosecuted

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I am fine with whatever crime is handled here

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Some crime is the problem

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Something's up and you got

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Yeah and I don't need an extra layer of crime to hate the shit out of Matt Gates

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Right

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If he's guilty of a crime then I hope he's prosecuted and taken care of

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But I'm gonna hate him either way Dan

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And we'll see

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Also Roger might not be the best source of information for Alex on this one since he's

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been photographed at Mar-a-Lago with Gates and Joel Greenberg

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Come on what's a little sex trafficking between friends

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And according to the Times websites run by Roger's associates had published articles

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favorable about Greenberg's candidacy for tax collector

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Shocking

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This is a mess

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Shocking

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The tangled web but we'll see

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Anyway there's other news

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We lost Rush Limbaugh not too long ago

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Hooray

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And oh no

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We had another tragedy befall the right wing

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Oh no

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I've got so much to cover G. Gordon Liddy died a great guy

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Great patriot, great talk show host, great American

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Really?

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The FBI was like him today we wouldn't be in this problem

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That we're in with these communists and globalists we've got that

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Yikes

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Doesn't eulogize him much

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Can't just mentions G. Gordon Liddy's dead wishes the FBI was more like him

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Boo

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Oooh big pass although I think maybe our problem is the FBI is a lot like him

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Yep

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Yeah

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So Alex has one of his big narratives on this episode is that a lot of the prosecutions against

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people who broke into the Capitol and stormed everywhere and what have you

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A lot of them are falling apart

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Oh that was years ago though the right wing has moved on from that we're talking about

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culture war stuff Dan we don't need to worry about that because that happened years ago

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Well we got to turn around and mop it up a little bit

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Okay

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And now the prosecutions are falling apart and there's a Politico article that Alex can't

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seem to find that goes over this

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I mean we are witnessing incredibly historic times you know in fact guys there's an Infowars

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article about the case falling apart and feds shocked that they're gonna have to drop all

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the cases but I actually want the Politico article that's linked in that I forgot to

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tell you about that so give me that Politico article that they're gonna have to not get

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jail times these people on the left's totally panicking because I can't find that now in

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my stack and I just had it

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People aren't panicking this Politico article does talk about how it might be a bad look

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for you know Biden's administration to end up having to not prosecute or give plea deals

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to a lot of the people who weren't the insiders they weren't the people who were you know

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actually planning violence

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So I understand that and I think that you know in terms of reality that kind of makes

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sense and as somebody who isn't in favor of over incarceration I do understand that and

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I kind of don't think it would be in society's greater interest to lock up everybody who

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went into the Capitol in the same way that I think that you know drug offenders should

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be released from prison

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Right right I think I think that there should be less people in prison

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Yeah I mean I ultimately functionally it's like when you're going after the fucking mafia

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like cool you arrested a bunch of fucking low level meatheads who are going around looking

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for protection money it doesn't matter it doesn't do anything we're not doing anything

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to the people who fucking orchestrated it and incited it

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So I kind of don't give a shit about these people at all

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Well the people who you know might have just been along and went in I can completely understand

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the idea of like getting probation or time served or something if you've been held without

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bail yeah I don't know but I understand that and I think that maybe it would be unsatisfying

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to some like folks who are trying to maybe run for office on retribution

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Sure sure sure sure um but that doesn't mean that people who are like the people who planned

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the the stuff like yeah yeah keepers and totally they're not gonna get like sentences

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No you planned it yeah that's the part that's the people who are coordinating and like yeah

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Stuart Rhodes's friends yeah they're still in deep shit

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That's what I'm saying I just don't care about because all too all too many of those people

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are really borderline just infected with this terrifying brain virus that has destroyed them

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through right-wing propaganda since they were fucking six years old right yeah and Alex is

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trying to pretend that this is everybody even all the oath keepers and stuff who had like

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communications plans and no Alex's buddies are going down he's trying to pretend that like this

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Politico article is about everybody sure and it's not it's mostly about people who are just like

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what are you gonna do they just walked in yes it's trespassing yeah but what are you gonna give them

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six months in prison for that is that right yeah that and and I think that that's a sensible

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conversation to have sure in terms of like what what gives us the best outcome possible as a

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society and well I mean as a society does giving somebody who uh you know passively stormed the

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Capitol six months do anything for the problem probably not it could make things worse yeah it

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doesn't like to act as a deterrent no and now I wish that we would treat all offenders with the

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same kind of uh I think that's kind of the bigger issue yeah that is the problem is not uh the

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treatment it's the unequal treatment beyond all recognition here here yeah yeah so apparently one

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of Elon Musk's rockets blew up um but hey man still don't care about Elon Musk don't call it

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a little bit you can't call him a loser because he's trying he is a loser though and this is this

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is interesting Alex seems to be taking comments about Elon Musk a little personally another

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SpaceX spaceship prototype explodes during high altitude flight test and the media is calling him

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a loser as usual no uh the losers are the people that point their fingers at people that are doers

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and say that we're the losers no you are the losers so Alex is lumping himself in with Elon

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Musk and saying the people who criticize the doers like me and Elon Musk sure they're the losers no

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what I want to do is put myself in the same sentence as somebody whose wealth is based

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entirely upon apartheid Dan that's what I want to do people talk about how me and Elon Musk

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are losers just because we exploited a population to make untold amounts of wealth and then the

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moment it looked like it was going to go bad for us we ran away to the United States face

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no punishment for our crimes whatsoever and then got even more wealthy based off of stock

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manipulation for no fucking reason I mean to be fair like like Alex used to hang out with Bob

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Chapman who made all his money on like that's what I'm saying you gotta defend people who

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run apartheid scams lived in Rhodesia yeah exactly yeah oh boy yeah so we get to defending Matt

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Gates now and it's interesting because the only way that Alex can ever do these things is like

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revealing he himself committed a crime no just pointing to other people but he's built up as

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villains totally okay let me break this down for you if congressman Matt Gates son of a big

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successful billionaire wasn't well spoken wasn't pro-constitution didn't have courage wasn't a

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fighter I would not give a damn about him he'd like an old shoe I'd throw it away and if any

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evidence of him screwing kids came out I would absolutely come out against him and say he should

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be put in prison but he's not just Scarborough found with a dead girl in his office with their

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brains bashed out who then is a good globalist who gets a show on msnbc with the daughter of a

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famous war criminal Zbigniew Brzezinski Mika yeah so there's like ah yeah he's not Joe Scarborough

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let's lie about his his past yeah it's it's it's weird because I don't know what that has to do

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with oh it doesn't have anything to do with this no no no it seems like that's the strategy is

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just distract yeah red red sheet over here have the bowl the bowl that is the audience's attention

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charge over there despite the fact that of his descriptions of people who would drink adrenochrome

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the only difference so far in description between Gates and everybody else is just an R

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next to his name yeah he's the son of a billionaire he's in the government he's but it's also like

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he's a weird Republican exactly it's not just that he's a Republican he is weird yeah yeah

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he's an asshole yep so Alex lies a little bit about the allegations uh and man it's one thing

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for Alex to take insults against Elon Musk personally sure that's that's one thing right

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Alex seems to be taking this a little personally that sounds right too trying to claim there were

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women saying they were 25 years ago who were really 17 at a party that he was at is not enough

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for me to turn against Gates especially when the Democratic party's doing this and especially

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I'll reveal for the first time here I went to the FBI a few years ago when somebody tried to

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extort me who I hadn't had sex with and I talked to the experts I said you got to go report it

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I once said hey I'm being extorted here's the here's the text messages

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they had five agents in the room I mean let me tell you try to extort my ass I know the FBI's

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corrupt point is I go right to them so it's on record that you tried to set me up you tried to

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let me tell you they got people they got the media will give people money to say anything

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they paid people twenty thousand dollars to say I walked around the office and grabbed a goldfish

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out of a fish tank at the office and ate it this is a reference to Josh Owen's article from 2019

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in the New York Times in the article Josh doesn't allege that Alex ate a goldfish that's the fake

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version of the claim that Alex uses as a straw man to not talk about the actual complaint

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from the article quote once a co-worker stopped by the office with a pet fish he was taking home

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to his niece it swam in circles in a small transparent bag when Alex saw the bag balanced

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upright on a desk in the conference room he emptied into a garbage can I don't know if

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Josh's claim is accurate or not but it's very clear that Alex is making this claim that Josh

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was paid twenty thousand dollars by the New York Times to say this about Alex the reason Alex is

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using the specific of quote eating a goldfish is so he's less likely to get in trouble if Josh were

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to demand Alex prove that the Times paid him to say what he did Alex could then pretend he was

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talking about a different claim made about him but it's very clear this narrative is the one

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that he's built in response to Josh's article if I were Josh Owens I would probably threaten

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to sue Alex for this yeah that'd be worthwhile yeah I don't know I don't know if Josh Owens is

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a public figure I don't know what Alex has no ability to demonstrate that Josh got paid to lie

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about him or to say anything about him this this seems like slander quite frankly and I think it's

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clearly malicious in intent totally absolutely this person said something I don't like

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and so I will say that they were paid to say it Alex saying hey how are you sounds malicious in

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intent there's no middle ground so apparently Alex got extorted sure sure sure sure sure sure sure

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he's he's defending Matt Gaetz a little bit like he's about to say what's next are we

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going to investigate everybody who's did exactly what but not that I didn't do it

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you know it's it's interesting the way that Alex decides to do this defense too because his defense

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seems to be like hey man Gaetz likes to party that's what I was thinking it would be but I've

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made some calls and uh what you're hearing about Gaetz is pure bull he doesn't even know if he

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from wild parties he was at over the years if he doesn't know who this woman is um and I had the

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same damn thing is that there's 30 people at it you don't even kiss anybody and then you got

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somebody saying you give me a hundred thousand dollars or I'm gonna say what you did to me and

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I'm like hey FBI will speed dial hey I'm coming in right now but I'm telling you man this is what

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happens when you're successful and you're famous and it's crap you try to extort me

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I'm gonna try to get the FBI arrest your ass because it's not true ladies and gentlemen

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you're supposed to be talking about Matt Gaetz why do you keep talking about yourself you keep

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talking about you an awful lot an awful lot also do not sell me on you being a tough guy

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ever again I'm gonna call the FBI I've got them on speed dial also I'm a revolutionary who's

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fighting against the American government well I think it's an interesting approach to be like

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Matt Gaetz goes to wild parties and he doesn't remember who's gonna remember who you fucked

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come on you go to the party you fuck it's not a names thing then it's really strange

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I just I think that on the one hand it's a strange defense of something that I don't know if anybody

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can know what the reality is about the investigation at this point at these parties

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you go and then Matt Gaetz puts on his eyed wide shut mask and then you don't know who's there

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it's weird but I think the reason that I'm most interested in it is it just keeps coming back to

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Alex like he keeps bringing himself back up as like there's a proxy that he feels as almost as

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if there's some sort of lingering guilt somewhere I don't know about that but I it's just weird it's

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just weird anyway Alex wants to give Gaetz some advice there is so much more that we're going to

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be discussing when we get into Matt Gaetz and we're going to use this to make it about the

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Clintons and to make this about Bill Gaetz and the minute Matt Gaetz talks about Bill Gaetz

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and the minute he talks about Epstein they're going to drop this like a hot hand grenade

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I don't know I don't know if that's true um I do think later on Alex lays out like what he's saying

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and it's like you know what Gaetz needs to be like talk about Bill Gaetz but you got the wrong Gaetz

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ah you get it how fun who's the new Gaetz gate yeah and so Alex also even lays out that he's

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like Bill Gaetz runs the media he controls all this sure if Matt Gaetz starts talking about

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Bill Gaetz he'll call off the dogs oh boy what I am I am really excited to see just how fast and

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how brutal the right wing machine will destroy Gaetz the moment he threatens the grift like the

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whenever he was talking to Tucker on that interview and he's like you know you know

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Tucker how you've done this too uh it's like uh oh man you're going to be destroyed if you think

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that you're gonna get loyalty gates you are making the same mistake a lot of you idiots make yeah

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you're gonna end up burning like the bridge with Tucker and you'll be left hanging out with Roger

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and Alex yep oh yeah yeah it's gonna be brutal and it's gonna be fast yeah it's kind of convenient I

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think I read a headline the other day that he like before all this came out that he was planning

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on possibly retiring from congress yeah he's gonna make a move you know nothing interesting

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is gonna happen in between that article and when he moves to Newsmax I'm sure of it OAN probably

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okay um so in this next clip uh we get Alex bestowing uh the mantle of the future of the

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GOP on somebody and you'd be hard-pressed and surprised to find out that it is not Matt Gaetz

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oh okay after all of this oh surprising no we have a new leader okay so here he is Marjorie

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Taylor Greene the future of the Republican party voted in 75 of the vote on vaccine passports

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talking about Hillary's religion and Biden's religion being the mark of the beast I kind of

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do agree with Alex though that she is the future of the GOP yeah she is absolutely going to be one

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of their elder statesmen uh screeching into the atmosphere upon her babel tower as the rest of

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the world burns around her Alex takes this to be like a a good thing whereas I would say it's a

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cautionary statement to say that she's the future of the GOP I would I would argue that's that's

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probably a correct assessment of the biggest problem any people have ever had so we get to

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talking a little bit more about Ms. Greene uh and here's what Alex has to say they have a perfect

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example of why they hate Marjorie Taylor Greene she's dumb she's a listener of this show she's

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mean she saw her others and they're educated about how the world works and they can see it

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themselves and they see the corporate communism how they've created monopolies for themselves

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and now the big corporations want tyranny for all the rest of us and they're using

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classical forms of tyranny with technocracy to dominate us now the republicans are told oh be

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afraid of her stay away from her because if they adopt what she's saying when she won by 75

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percentage points the highest record in years for a republican to be elected to congress the

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past record was like 69 she topped that by six points what was she saying there's a new world

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order a chai comm takeover corporate communism they're coming for your guns they're destroying

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the border they're the enemy let's do something that's what you do when you're under attack

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i definitely think Alex could be right that Marjorie Taylor Greene listens to info wars

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of the times he said that about elected officials this is the first time i'm not gonna argue with

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yeah no that sounds right that said Alex is completely making up everything he just said

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about her election win first let's remember that she was running essentially unopposed since her

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opponent had withdrawn from the race prior to the election Alex is claiming that she won by a record

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margin because he wants to create the impression that she was just saying info wars stuff and that

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stuff is so popular that it wins elections by record amounts so everyone should adopt the most

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popular stuff which is info wars stuff this is something that he is pulling out of thin air

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uh green won her race 74.7 percent to uh 25.3 percent she didn't win by 75 percentage points

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as Alex is claiming he just doesn't know the actual details or doesn't care to be accurate

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that's fine though since i think you could be generous and assume he just meant that she won

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with 75 i would say that's probably what he's close enough and i don't expect him to actually

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know what he's talking about or be accurate yeah what's more egregious is him trying to say that

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the previous record for republican running for congress had just been 69 margin or the vote who

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knows yeah either it's completely insane just in the 2020 election for the u.s house in florida's

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second district neil dunn won a seat against independent kim o'connor by a 97.9 to 2.1

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percent difference that's a margin of 95.8 percent far higher than margery taylor green's margin

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that's like if he ran against a half-finished game of hangman green's official margin of victory was

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49.4 percent which is the 18th highest margin of victory among republican house election winners

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hey that's not bad hang your head high you know nothing wrong with that sure left it all out on

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the field alex desperately craves uh being seen as smart and having a ton of information at his

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disposal but in order to create that perception he generally just makes shit up knowing that no

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one listening will even care he'll probably just believe him it's because he's a con man yeah that

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would be why also just because it's fun in the 2018 election republican tom graves won the same

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district seat that green did with 76.5 of the vote which is more than she got yeah his opponent

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received 23.5 of the vote so that means his total vote and his margin of victory were both higher

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than margery taylor green's were she's actually less popular than the previous republican who

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won that house seat that is the future of the republican party and it's what you get when you

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use infowars that would happen yeah yeah yeah we should kill half of the constituents is usually

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less popular than you might expect half of the constituents are gonna have a problem with that

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yeah the other half usually so uh we get back to defending matt gates and it just does seem to be

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like dude parties man come on roger stone is gonna have the inside scoop i've got from my angles

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my sources that talk to gates gates has been on the show but i haven't talked to him in years

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and uh we got a pretty good picture of what happened and what's unfolding this is deep

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state globalist extortion uh is he a playboy was he at some parties with wild girls years ago

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um maybe he truthfully does not remember or does not know but this is extortion this is a dirty

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trick okay this is not strong i i would say i would say that's uh that's a road to conviction

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if that's your defense hey i got drunk and partied i don't remember yeah i would say

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that i went into this episode like the the sort of the way that i explained it like i don't know

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enough about this case i read the times article i read what the people who are you know the sources

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who are familiar with the investigation sure uh we're saying and we'll wait and see what comes

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out of this sure i don't know like yeah yeah yeah the more i listen to this episode the more i'm

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like what are you doing this is a terrible defense if this is your damage control like spin that

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spin that you're doing i gotta think he killed people at those parties like yeah yeah i don't i

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feel like he's trying to soften the blow of something worse that's how it feels yeah and

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i don't know if that's just because it's how alex like operates or or what look have you ever seen

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the movie bachelor party he went to one donkey show so not that big a deal and that like this

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is this is like don't don't let alex anywhere near the court if if this happens your honor

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it doesn't matter if he doesn't remember your honor i uh would like to say well i made some

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calls well i actually got some calls and i made some calls people that know gates well

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some big big big people and they said no gates is a playboy gates doesn't like underage women gates

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has never hid this that he's single and young uh and he's not even he doesn't even know if any of

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this is true he doesn't didn't fly with some underage woman that's made up this is a shakedown

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but the question is do they have some woman who can claim that well she was younger now she's you

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know 20 something that she went out with him three years ago uh but but definitely he went to the fbi

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definitely it's a shakedown um so you're saying that he might have dated a 17 year old a few years

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ago that is kind of what he's saying isn't it it's not specifically what he's saying

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oh can you call a character witness for the prosecution and tell him to defend

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this is a mess man hey hey alex we want you to really defend the shit out of matt gates

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that's how confident we are that you're right alex we're gonna put you as the prosecution

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yeah that's how we're tying one hand behind our back alex hey look fucking dated a 17 year old

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three years ago she's 20 now come on that's the same thing as being 20 back then it's matt he

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doesn't remember what what in the god's name is holy shit let's see if roger can do better

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what is the inside poo-poo

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back i mean if you had to name the single most effective uh member of the house in terms of

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fighting for the america first agenda it would have to be matt gates it's not insolent incidental

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that right here on this show only weeks ago i mentioned him very realistically as a presidential

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contender so this is a search and destroy mission i know matt gates to be a person of extraordinary

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integrity he was a playboy coming from you that means a lot to a wonderful woman ginger who i've

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met several times they're very much in love this is not the matt gates that i know this is a

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cheap political trick this is an effort to derail his career folks don't know this but

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matt gates his family is among the wealthiest families in florida therefore the yes that makes

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it less suspicious blackmail is a very realistic one i'm getting so suspicious the more this goes

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suspicious why are they doing this they don't have to they don't they don't their audience does not

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demand it alex could have legitimately just said this is all bullshit hey matt gates is he's come

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out on tucker and he said that he's being set up see let's move forward done now let's get to the

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big news of the day why are they doing this i'm not going to give this story the time that they

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want me to that's how integrity i spent over an hour on it yeah absolutely wow that broj ban

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the only thing worse than having alex defend me in court would be having roger defend me in court

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there's nothing wrong with it i'm roger stone i've done it all these two unsavory fucks like

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being like yeah he's great makes me think this person is not great and i understand that maybe

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that's that's a bias of mine yeah you know not everybody who's beloved by villains is a villain

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is a villain themselves sure sure i mean if i was going to uh put money on it i mean i would say

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that the fbi should get some text records and i would imagine the moment that new york time story

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came out roger stone got a text saying i did it what do i do that would be the most likely

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situation for me so um the the narrative now becomes with roger on board um that they're

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they're trying to get rid of gates because he's the heir apparent to trump sure in the 2024

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election basically the guy has enormous cojones he's got huge courage you know usually when you're

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young and you first get to congress they tell you to to us oh yeah he has incredible charisma he's

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super smart definitely they sense the alpha male they're scared yeah because he has many the same

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traits as trump he's audacious he's bold he's a brawler they don't want to take another beating

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like they took in 2016 so this is kind of what they're doing i think they see their neck i i

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think the the sense that i get like it's still weird they're trying to brett kavanagh this

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yeah perhaps but i think it's even more than that yeah i i think that they feel an absence of their

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uh sort of i idol basically sure there isn't a figurehead uh for them to coalesce around and i

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think that they're feeling the pressure of that there's a crunch that trump is absent in terms of

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being there um you know they can still like say hey we're trump supporters he's still the real

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president right right right but they still need somebody to be the face yeah it's the fall of

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stalin they're all jockeying for position and i think that i the sense that i get from the

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conversation they're having because they keep making reference to like off-air conversations

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that they've had and the sense that i get is that alex really thinks that matt gates should be the

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next person that gets the mantle of the weirdo conservative version god king wow um and so i

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guess he's interpreting this as a preemptive attack on the part of the globalists again and

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you know what i don't believe any of that's real and i don't believe that's true sure if alex does

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believe that's true then it kind of does make sense why he would spend an hour on this story

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yeah but still his defense is terrible no it's not good it's not good i mean ultimately his defense

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is like why can't white men do whatever they want why can't why can't uh gates party yeah what whoa

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what are you gonna judge him he's he's white and he's a man come on now you're you just let him do

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what he wants to do also he's rich what are you gonna punish him for what if like i don't know

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beto what if it came out that beto had dated a 17 year old how do you you know or are there

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allegations of that how do you think alex will respond to that i mean we'd go ape shit yeah and

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that's but that's the point of not giving a shit about what about ism we're not going to beat them

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at what abouting no they're there they're it's like they're bread and butter no it's just kind

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of something that can be a little bit funny to imagine how much you would freak out totally yeah

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but hey look the reality is based on the claims that are being made um uh gates says that there

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are tapes that prove his innocence that the fbi has okay and if that's the case then those should

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be able to come out and you know resolve this whole thing fine i still hate you for all the

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other shit you do yeah yeah roger demands the tapes most importantly let's hear the tapes we

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need to hear the tape that's right the key is he went to the fbi they had a sting up they were

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about to bust him yesterday somebody in the fbi leaked that info to the new york times for damage

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control gates was about to have a devastating victory i think that's exactly right by retiring

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from congress so the idea that they're presenting now is basically that there was this guy who by

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the way matt gates said by name accused by name on tucker carlson's show yeah uh this guy who was

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a former justice department official sure he's trying to extort uh uh gates and his family for

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money sure there's the allegation that they'll come out with if he doesn't pay up or whatever

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of course and so his dad had been wearing a wire in order to entrap this person as you do and

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because they were just about to nail this uh this extortionist sure the new york times got leaked

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this information right about the allegations that were the threat right to matt gates's extortion

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and and to to be honest i don't i don't know if i believe all that it seems like a defense that's

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being made and you know i if if that's the case it should be very easy to clear this up oh yeah

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not hard at all it should be incredibly easy and then that person who used to work at the justice

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department should go to prison yeah it's not hard no it's like it's like these people don't

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understand that the that law if it's to function at all is to be applied equally otherwise it is

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not law that is a struggle yeah so uh the new york times reporter who covered this story they

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reached out to roger sent roger an email and i think part of that is because roger was hey roger

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did he do it hey level with me hey buddy look this is off the record just tell me if he did it or not

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hey raj uh we have a picture of you and hit him and greenberg at mar-a-lago and how say you follow

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up question did you do it so roger got an email and he's got a response for the guy and this gets

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alex really excited i actually got an email from michael schmidt the uh reporter at the new york

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times that wrote this story today i'm going to be releasing my response because it is quite

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extraordinary um they don't hold the new york times to the same standards they hold everybody

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else to it is amazing linked to associated with is known to have spent time with that's killed by

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association hold on hold on i want the exclusive can you pull up the email i want to hear your

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response to the new york times uh yeah you'll get a chance to take a look at it i've got to

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touch it up a little bit because the more i read it the angrier i get and then alex is like uh

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yeah when you uh when you get a chance to touch that up could you uh go in the war room and uh

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war room and talk about it yeah yeah roger's response is yeah if i'm awake

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dude you're in florida it's not late does not give a shit anymore i go to bed at four yeah

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you dinner at three and i'm in bed at four it's a good life it's not a bad life yeah so alex really

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is thirsty for that uh that exclusive at what how many pictures with alleged or convicted sex

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traffickers can you be in before people start look dude at a certain point you got to let that go

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because they congregate at mar-a-lago yeah that's true you know if you go there there's probably a

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picture of you with a perv now that's probably another thing we should put a red flag up about

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right you know but i mean like it's not you know you go to you go to most easily cantina you're

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going to get a picture taken sure it's going to be a home of skyman bility yes i get that yeah

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that doesn't mean that you're a smuggler just because he took a picture of you with

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right right you just like to hang out at the place where smugglers go and i get and i get that but

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how many pictures do you get to be like look i get it one or two and then you see that picture

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and you go oh that's not going to look good later on when you're at five then it's just too many

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you sound like the fucking left guilt by association all over the place and it's not

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good i'm just saying there's just too many of them anyway uh look on our first episode that we ever

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did we learned that it was time to pray uh because benjamin netanyahu was the canary in the coal mine

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was that what it was jesus five goddamn years later it's time to pray we're still praying i

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have to tell you it is still time to pray yeah roger roger i know for real because i've talked

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to you privately i see the tears in your eyes when we've been in person when you were saying

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pray with me you start crying you were always a christian but you didn't let us pray none of us

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are perfect god feels all get a little bit of partying here and there none of it was wrong

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in god's eyes because you repented of it like king david but but let's pray we got a minute

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and a half left to break but lead us in prayer for for congressman matt gates please right you've

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got to imagine roger's like you motherfucker you son of a bitch how dare you you are getting you're

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begging me to pray how dare you first off you're telling this bullshit about me crying while prayer

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get the fuck out of here i think that's good for the all their images though i think i think that's

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fine that's that's the version of the story that you'd want to know he's the penitent man who is

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pardoned by your god king naturally yeah yeah that's what you do yeah and you go overboard

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with it too yes rending his garments and beating his chest as is alex's sort of style yes uh but

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yeah it i mean look it's rude to be like will you lead us in prayer i on my dumb conspiracy theory

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show where we're saying that matt gates may have dated a 17 year old years ago but who knows he

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doesn't remember his wild parties whatever i would be mad if you asked me to pray the day before

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let alone five minutes on the spot yeah so i was like is roger gonna pray i want to hear it mic

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down okay uh look i'm not i'm not the most articulate but i'll give it a try dear lord

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those the you who created both heaven and earth yo you who stand for justice and hate injustice

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please watch over matt gates in this struggle for his freedom he is a good man he is a godly man he

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is an innocent man he is a man of great promise do not let the left wing hate machine that sought

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to destroy me sought to destroy general flint now destroy this great american patriot oh man

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and by the way that's another topic for you to come back we're trying to get flint to run we're

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begging them on our knees okay weird okay all right man just go back to when like he was a

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young operative working with like nixon yeah and be like hey in 2021 you're gonna be hanging out

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with alex jones and praying on air he would have hit you with a two by four like you're a mule

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yeah yeah he is a sad piece of shit this is wild just this is bad just like i don't understand why

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this isn't something that like would have more media coverage like this this to me seems like

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so bizarre roger stone preys on air i know but like like they roger stone still has to be a

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big bad in the media he can't they can't just portray him as this sad i mean just real pathetic

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a nonsense man i think also too as i as i say that out loud i think i kind of realize that were you

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to cover something that way you might run the risk of offending people who are christian or religious

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like the idea the it's not it's not mocking prayer no it's mocking the idea that one it's roger

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stone two it's on alex jones's show uh it's more that and i think that that tone might not be able

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to be properly conveyed so that makes sense the right wing machine would turn it into a massive

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deal but i can't like if you are by any stretch and adherent to uh the the intent of the bible

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um i would argue that that prayer is way more offensive to christians than any article being

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like roger stone is an asshole don't let them do what they did to me yeah that that like not even

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god is above the left right paradigm is that what we're doing not well he is your god is pathetic

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and shitty that's what that's my alex's god is above the left right paradigm and that means that

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he's super to the right super to the right yeah so alex at the end there was talking about how

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we want to draft mike flinn uh general flint sure uh to run for president they talk about this a

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little bit the him and him and roger are not quite on the same page let's draft uh general flint to

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get going what do you think roger uh look i think i've made it as clear as i can that if the

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president runs i'm for the president and he has the right to make that decision and he has the

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luxury to make it in his own time but if the president doesn't run it's absolutely vital that

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we have a candidate a man or a woman who really understands and supports and completely is

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committed to hold on five more minutes exactly on flint we need a stand-in and i get you're being

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delicate here we're not against trump if trump ain't gonna do it we have to fire up flint and

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we were firing up gates behind the scenes we have to have them ready in case trump doesn't do it

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look right back hey alex you dumb fuck uh trump pardon me i have loyalty to him for life i'm gonna

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say trump yeah forever yeah forever we can have hypothetical uh conversations about anybody else

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but you have to understand that i will always give a proviso that trump is technically still

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president even if gates were president trump should be yeah yep yep but i mean it just becomes

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all too apparent there the way that they're conversing that like we're looking for a stand-in

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yeah yeah we need somebody to get uh the dumb dumbs as excited as trump did and it's not gonna

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happen and matt gates is the kind of shithead who would wear a gas mask right and then get covid

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right but they they just don't have any of it like it's it's very abundantly clear now that nobody

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but trump has the stuff that the like total uh attributes that are necessary to pull off a trump

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campaign you know like gates isn't going to be able to because he doesn't have that image of

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being a successful billionaire he's kind of a piece of shit yeah he's an asshole yeah and he

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can't pull off any kind of sexual impropriety scandal because he's too young and not enough

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people want to back him in order to run interference for him so we're probably going to wind up with

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trump is the republican candidate and it's going to be so sad and miserable for everybody so long

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as the media learns any lessons from 2016 and 2020 so i imagine that we're gonna have trump in 2025

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yep but it's okay dan if the democrats pull it together and govern effectively there's no way

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that a right-wing uh let's move on so uh alex has uh he lets roger go and uh who very confusing um

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very very very confusing i think i get generally what they're doing but it's still like

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i can't imagine having any time to prepare and thinking like this is the defense that

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we're gonna spend like half of the show on yeah that is bizarre have a better defense tomorrow

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yeah that makes the most sense yeah be like hey we know these allegations are terrible and we're

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gonna look into it and we'll have more rogers not available today he'll be on tomorrow to talk about

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it yep roger could be asleep who knows who cares yep it just doesn't matter really silly take your

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time um but uh alex has also built up this entire story about the uh everyone who stormed the

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capital is getting off scot-free sure and the libs are really mad about it so stewart roads is on

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along with his lawyer i was gonna say you better have a lawyer present um i don't know if this

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lawyer is gonna be helpful stewart should have his lawyer next to him at all times his lawyer might

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need a lawyer oh boy as an ex-prosecutor what do you think of the fiasco uh i actually is kind of

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how it's been since the beginning i think thought that they were overreaching they seem to

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have an agenda that they wanted everything to fit into but the facts just don't support that i don't

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know if it was something they had planned because i believe that that event was funded somehow with

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antifa but um i think they wanted patriots to act up more than what happened and then they have

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continued to try to push a narrative that the facts don't fit into you were here over a month

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ago that's what you said in the green room you weren't on air you said it looks staged we're not

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sure yet but so stewart roads his lawyer that he brings along thinks antifa paid to do something

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with the yeah yeah yeah i you know i think i think the past few years have really taken a lot of

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shine off of uh the legal minds of our country this lawyer seems insane yeah i think most lawyers

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now are starting to sound a lot more and more insane yeah yeah him and him and stewart alex

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and stewart and this lawyer they they just talk about how like ah everybody on the right is good

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of course yes yes we're all angels over here and everybody on the left drinks adrenochrome and it's

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kind of dumb and it's not really all that interesting or or uh you know uh it doesn't

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bring much to us but stewart does have a prediction that we've got to put on the record

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so we can you know okay all right uh we're looking at the summer of rage they're speeding your time

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table up that's why it's important for us to understand what's coming you should expect them

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to decouple the dollar from the world currency and kill the dollar this summer and what you're

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going to have to do is become strong this they want us divided and weak you got to unite to

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become strong that means food and fuel and ammunition the clean water the ability to

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self-sustain so you can resist the compulsory taking of the vaccine in order to eat and i

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totally agree with you so yeah the dollar is going to be destroyed this summer look for that

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everybody who believes that take your stuff and just go into the woods create a splinter society

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and leave the rest of us alone or if you believe that take the dollar that still has some value

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okay pay your internet bill sure download an episode of alex jones from last year saying

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this year will be the summer of rage ah that might be too expensive download a couple years back when

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he did it every year now 5g is how they get you now i'll go back to like years and years in the

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past should say tomorrow they're going to devalue the dollar while he's conveniently selling gold

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it helps it helps to sell gold it's outrageous i i mean we'll see oh no this summer oh man i'm

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really worried i'm really worried so stewart's whole big thing is that the government is going

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to starve everybody that's his uh that's his new thing um that he's pushing pretty hard it's going

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to be tough to win votes on a platform of uh starve everyone but we'll see how they pull it

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off dan counterpoint yeah here's a great uh here's a great uh electoral strategy okay hey do you miss

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food here is food here is food yeah i will vote for food sir i think that's what stewart is trying

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to uh trying to get uh trigger in people's minds anyway um yeah come to the end of this and it's

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it's weird because you know i i think i think um obviously i'm more interested in non-present-day

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alex jones he's very he's a very dumb uninteresting person but this this defense

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of gates really did interest me in as much as like i hate matt gates and i'm not interested in piling

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on him sure until we know more naturally alex his defense makes me suspicious it really makes me

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think that alex knows something that we don't know and it's bad and it's real bad that's what

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it makes me think it's hard to get any other impression obviously we don't know that now it's

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good just be you know knee-jerk protect your own right kind of thing and and you know maybe there's

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something and i would say that if this is his knee-jerk reaction that's probably just as

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illuminating as if he does know something that we don't know because his knee-jerk reaction is like

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come on sexual assault's fine you know like it's it's kind of weirdo conservatives exactly yes it

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is it is that basic kind of feel to it so if that's your knee-jerk reaction i think we know

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how you're going to react to just about everybody yeah yeah it doesn't it doesn't uh it was not an

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enjoyable uh bit of time to listen to this show it's confusing yeah um so yeah i don't know we'll

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check back in we'll see how things are going of course and uh but uh until then we have a website

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we do have a website it's knowledgefight.com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter

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it's that knowledge that go to bed jordan we're on facebook we are facebook if you could please

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find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out uh people doing god's work right now uh

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we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm darryl rundis so what do you think

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about them apples andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time

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caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you