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Hello, Alex, I'm a freshman in college, I'm a huge fan, I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fed, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're couple dudes that sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about
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Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan!
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Jordan!
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today is, uh, Socratesian.
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Socratesian.
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In that it is, uh, know thyself.
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Oh, it wasn't just the word Socratesian.
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No, no.
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It is the, uh, the Oracle of Delphi.
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Okay.
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Uh, whatever the fuck.
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Okay.
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I'm thinking about myself.
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Yes.
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Um, because I, I started to think about, uh, stuff earlier this week and I was thinking
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about like, what do I know about myself?
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And I'm like, well, I like spicy stuff.
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Sure.
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And I just so happened...
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That's a good starting point.
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I just so happened to have a spice challenge sitting around that we were going to eat on
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camera.
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Yes, yes!
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The nuts.
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No, it wasn't the nuts.
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It was the, uh, the white chocolate bar.
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Oh, the white chocolate bar.
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Oh, shit.
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Lightening, I believe, is the name of it.
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Oh, shit.
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And I bought this white, uh, this white chocolate bar that has a bunch of chilis in it.
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Sure.
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Because I was like, uh, hey, that sounds interesting.
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Second, they were giving, uh, meals to charity for every bar that they sold.
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Sure.
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So it was sort of a charity drive.
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I was like, I'll buy this.
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Eh, eh, eh.
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And we'll try it and we'll have some fun.
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Yeah.
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Now, it was sitting on my counter and I thought to myself, would I enjoy this without an audience?
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That's a good question.
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Would I enjoy this spice, like, crazy hot thing without the added element of people
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watching me eat it?
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Sure.
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Can I enjoy this without it being content?
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And now we get to know thyself.
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Exactly.
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Yes.
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I don't like spicy stuff that much.
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Because I ate about half of it alone and I thought it was terrible.
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It sucked.
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Aw, damn.
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I don't know if I'm getting older or what, but, like, it was unpleasant.
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I found it to be too much.
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It hurt.
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It's all punctured.
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You don't like fucking spicy things.
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You don't like seltzers.
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You're not gonna like vinegars anymore.
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I do like seltzers.
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Just some.
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All these plants are alive.
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They're all fake.
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They're great.
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All this shit is bullshit, dad.
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It's all about worms now.
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Is anybody even actually listening to this show?
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Nope.
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Is this just you and me?
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I have all these sock puppet accounts.
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Are you trolling me with the greatest troll it is?
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I have fake addresses I'm sending buttons to, yes.
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That is what's going on.
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No.
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That's a good scam.
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I still really like spicy stuff, but I don't like really spicy stuff, I think.
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I think that, you know, I don't know, maybe it was late 20s, early 30s, I was in a real
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extreme spice kind of place.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And now- Got your picture on a wall everywhere.
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Sure.
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I've achieved.
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Yeah.
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I've achieved something.
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Yes, yes.
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And I think that maybe it's just over for me, for the extreme spice.
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So I will be getting a hot, as opposed to an extra hot, at the Thai place in the future,
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and I think that's okay.
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I agree.
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That is okay.
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I agree.
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That is my bright spot, is accepting that about myself.
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I like it.
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How about you?
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My bright spot, Dan, is piano solos.
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Okay.
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Piano solos is my bright spot.
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Well, actually, this is a mix of a great bright spot and a bit of a sad note.
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I was listening to- The outro to Layla?
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Very, very sad.
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Nicely done.
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Nicely done.
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I was listening to Yoko Kanno play the piano solo on Adieu from the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack,
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and it's a really, really good piano solo.
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Second only to the outro from Layla.
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It's very Thelonious Monk in its syncopation.
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It's really, really good.
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And then I was thinking about my favorite pianist of all time is Keith Jarrett.
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Okay.
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Do you know who Keith Jarrett is?
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I do not.
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He is a jazz pianist who will give these literally hour and a half long improvised piano concerts
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where it's basically just him for an hour and a half, and he's fucking-
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Just tickling the 88s.
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Riveting.
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His music is beautiful, and he is incredible.
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He's a dynamite performer.
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That's great.
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And I just found out that he had a stroke.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah, and he's lost the ability to use his right hand, or I can't remember.
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It's one of his hands, though, so he'll probably never play live again.
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Maybe not.
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Maybe he'll be the Def Leppard drummer of piano.
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If anybody could do it, I'm telling you, he is incredible.
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So I'm pouring one out for Keith Jarrett's hand until such time as it recovers.
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That's very sentimental, and we're wishing the best.
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Yeah, if you get the chance, listen to one of his live albums.
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I want to transition into a less sad thought, more of like, why my brain is bad.
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I was thinking the whole time you were talking, we've had pianos for a very long time now.
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I can't imagine anyone's doing anything new with them.
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Fair.
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You're telling me about how great he is.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Okay.
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I was like, yeah, I think we've done the piano stuff.
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Let's start talking about numbers.
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How many keys does a piano have?
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88, baby.
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How many different possible combinations of 88 over any number of measures are there?
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Well, I mean, some of them don't sound good.
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That's why you're looking for the good ones, man.
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Right.
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But we've had a lot of time.
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Sure.
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Just because there are an infinite number of possible combinations.
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You say that.
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It is because it's true.
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Yeah.
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I think I might be done with all music.
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We did it, guys.
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Yeah.
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Wrap it up.
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We got all the music we need.
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Now, see, here's why my brain doesn't work again.
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You're like, let's talk numbers.
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I'm like, yeah, wait, we've done everything we can with numbers too.
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What about the set of infinite numbers?
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I'm in a weird head space.
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A set of whole numbers is infinite.
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Anyway, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
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We're talking about November 16th and 17th, 2020.
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Dan, this is 2020.
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Sounds good.
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Whoa.
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That's right.
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Holy shit.
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We're doing it.
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Wow.
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You're leaning into the end of the year.
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I finally reached it.
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It's 11...
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How many...
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This has been what?
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11 months.
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It's been 11 episodes since you started doing Dan, this is 2020.
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I got to accept it sooner or later.
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Yes.
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It's just how it's got to go.
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Sometimes submission is what you need.
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Sometimes you need to submit to the universe, and when the universe insists on saying this
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thing, you just kind of have to accept it.
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I'm going to be honest.
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It feels a little bit like the end of 1984 with this bit here.
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I just love the government now, Dan.
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Great.
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I'm Dan.
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This is the government.
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So, this is a stretch of time that I think is a little bit of a stopgap.
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We're talking about the beginning of this week, Monday and Tuesday.
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And there's a reason.
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And our Monday episode will pick up on Wednesday and go through the rest of the week.
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And everybody who's listened to this probably already knows, Alex has gone down to Atlanta
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because there's a protest in to do, and he's got to try and stop the steal.
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He's on his... and I kind of feel like that's an extension of the caravan.
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Alex went down to Georgia looking for an election to steal.
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That's what's happening here.
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Well, yeah.
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So I just... hold on to that thought.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Alex is going to Georgia and doing all this stuff.
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And I kind of... it's not obviously part of the caravan, and the caravan went through
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Atlanta on its way up to DC.
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So they've already just been there.
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But it kind of has the same spiritual energy of like Infowars on the road.
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Right, right, right.
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It's a bit of a sequel.
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Yeah, so Monday we'll have the sequel of Alex's adventure in Atlanta.
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And this is this interstitial period where Alex is back in Austin, in studio, and complaining
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a whole bunch.
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It's kind of like Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon in The Trip.
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Sure.
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Yes.
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So we'll get down to business on this episode, but before we do we've got to take a moment
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to say thank you to some folks who've signed up and are supporting the show.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, Gap Tooth Killah, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk!
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Thank you very much, GTK.
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Thank you so much next, Andrew G. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Andrew.
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Were you about to say Andrew Dice, Clay?
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WK!
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Okay, I gotcha.
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All right.
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Next, another lunatic.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, another lunatic.
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Next, Bill and Virginia Warren.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Bill of Virginia.
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Thank you. Next, Creator, and it's spelled C-R-E-8-H-E-R.
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Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Creator.
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Thank you so much. Next, Dave.
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Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Dave.
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Thank you, Dave.
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I like a good Dave.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Serengeti.
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Do you like the movie, Dave?
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No, not a fan.
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Ooh.
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Had nothing to say and followed up to it.
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Nope, nope. We're good.
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That's fine.
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Next, Tiger High Eats License Plates and Chicom Globalists.
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Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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That stuff.
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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who donated on Elevated Level.
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We appreciate that very much.
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So, Chris E., thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.
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And Sarah McAfee, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Chris.
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And thank you so much, Sarah.
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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
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If you're out there listening and you're thinking,
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hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support these gents.
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You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,
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clicking the button that says support the show.
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We would appreciate it.
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Indeed, we would.
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Or.
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Or what you could do if you find yourself filled with a generous spirit
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and you need to express that.
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Find your way over to a little device that has 88 keys on it
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and play one of the 10 approved songs that Dan allows.
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And then use that generous spirit to express music in a way
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that gets you to local charity or bail fund.
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I lost it a little bit at the end because of your bitter rage towards pianos.
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You think there's actually 10?
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How many would you bet?
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Six.
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Six?
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Anyway, here's an out of context drop from today's show.
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Sounds good.
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God acts through math, and math tells us that the Democrats cheated.
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This is just logic.
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This makes sense.
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You can't refute that.
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I'm just real done with God.
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I'm just real done with God.
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He acts through math.
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So in this first clip where we start off the show,
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Alex, boy, I think on our last episode,
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he had to go off air or threatened to go off air twice.
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Indeed.
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He's now switching it up and just going off air as soon as the show begins.
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I like it.
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We have massive breaking news.
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I actually have to go off air for a few minutes and talk to some insiders.
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I'll leave it at that on how the Clintons are now stealing Georgia,
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preparing to criminally certify it and how serious the situation is.
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But we have a path forward.
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First, I want to play a little bit of my speech yesterday.
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Again, I'm your host, Alex Jones,
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and my speech from Saturday at the million Trump march
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that now they're estimating may have had close to a million people at it.
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It's historic.
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No, no, no, no, they're not.
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No, they're not estimating that.
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Who is estimating that?
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Him, Alex's.
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They is doing a lot of work there.
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So Alex is getting this information that they're trying to steal Georgia.
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And so as we know, by the end of this, Alex will head to Atlanta
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to meet up with Ali Alexander, who's doing the stop the steal thing.
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Doing great stuff.
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And I wanted to stop you before you started talking about Alex going to Georgia.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because I've written a song.
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Now, I'm sorry for stepping on.
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You are one of six songs.
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I do think that this episode is not as good as I want it to be.
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There's not as much happening.
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Alex is kind of just talking about how Georgia needs to.
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It's on his mind.
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Yeah, nicely done.
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And now it needs to they need to take it over and what have you.
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And so I thought as a bonus to the audience and to the people,
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yes, I would write my own version of The Devil Went Down to Georgia.
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But about Alex and Ali Alexander.
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Do you have accompaniment?
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No, no.
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I want to get a piano.
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Certainly not.
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Oh, damn it.
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I might want to do some mouth sounds.
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OK, all right. I'll take that.
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Alex went down to Georgia.
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He was looking to stop the steal.
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His sales were down.
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His staff's a clown and the situation is an ordeal.
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When he came across this young man spinning a yarn and spinning it hot.
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And Alex jumped up on top of his tank and said, boy, let me tell you what.
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I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a bullshit artist, too.
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And if you care to dare, I'd like to work with you.
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Now you spin a mighty fine yarn, boy, but give the Texan his due.
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I need your skills to sell my pills, but I'm still better than you.
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The boy said, my name's Ali and it might be unwise,
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but I'll join your scam to make some clams because I only have shameful allies.
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Meter was a little off.
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You know what?
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I'm going to give that one to you.
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Thank you.
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Perfect so far.
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Just keep on rolling.
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Ali rising up your theories and push your talking points hard
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because there's profit to make in Georgia and Alex is a blowhard.
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If this works the money and re-noun are all yours,
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but if you don't you'll end up working for wars!
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Alex mumbled about his obsession with the unborn and flyer.
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I might have taken that one from the top.
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I'm going to be honest with you, you just don't get this from other political podcasts.
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You just don't.
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Alex mumbled about his obsession with the unborn and fire flew from his fingertips when
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he gripped his tiny bullhorn and he pushed the talk button and there was a static hiss.
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He'd forgotten to replace the batteries so it sounded something like this.
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As Alex fumbled, Ali said, your tech problems are sad, old son.
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I know you have a million dollar studio, but let me show you how it's done.
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Fraud in the votes.
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Run boys, run.
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All you have to do is say dominion.
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Pretend QAnon shit is solid info.
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Is Roger Stone pulling my strings?
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No child, no.
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Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,
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Alex got a miss- I didn't think there was any way there was
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another verse.
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There's a, there's a conclusion.
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Sir, you are going for it.
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There's a conclusion.
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Your commitment to this is fucking fantastic.
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There's a story being told here.
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No, I, I'm with you.
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Alex got a misty look in his eye because he knew he'd met a friend and he offered Ali
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his tiny bullhorn, handing it by the speaker end.
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Ali said, can you call Larry Nichols about that congressional blackmail?
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And I done told you once, you son of a bitch, stop extending the Easter sale.
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So, that's, someone put that to music.
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Before the show, you were telling me, you know what, it's been real hard to do any kind
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of thinky work.
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You've been struggling.
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Why'd you do that?
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Now I realize that it's just been the song.
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It's just been the song.
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That took me maybe half an hour.
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Uh, yeah, so someone put that to music.
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Alex went down to Georgia.
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Looking to stop the steal.
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DJ Danerkey is going to turn that into an absolute banger.
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We're going to get what number one on the billboard charts.
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So, uh, the Democrats, they're trying to steal that election in Georgia.
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Why?
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They already won it though.
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Well, they're going to steal it.
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And they better be, you know, Thursday apparently is the deadline.
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We're recording this on Thursday.
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Oh shit.
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I have been on the phone with people in the Trump campaign.
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I've been on the phone with a lot of different top political strategists and for all intents
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and purposes, this election could be over for president Trump Thursday, last Thursday,
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hold on.
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He'll still not leave office because the fraud is real, but it will give them perception
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that the election has been certified and it'll make the road towards the lighthouse for the
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second Trump term.
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And I was taking our country back very, very hard.
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Yeah, no shit that will, that will make things more challenging.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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The process continuing to move along as it's supposed to will make derailing the process
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more difficult.
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My car being turned into a cube will make it difficult to drive from here on out.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That is, that is true.
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Having your wheels taken.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's a hindrance.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Having my feet cut off will really make it harder to play football.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is not the only one who's heading down to Georgia.
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Of course, Ali Alexander is, is going down there.
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Sure.
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Some other noted weirdos.
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Right.
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But Alex thinks that everybody needs to go to Georgia.
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Sure.
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And I would like to just point out again, I don't, I don't want to keep beating a dead
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horse and I love that caravan.
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The caravan went to Georgia.
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Yes, it did.
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And it was, and it was wildly successful.
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You already did.
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No, no, no.
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It was wildly successful.
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And so they need to do it again.
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Sure.
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Okay.
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You better start getting on the plane or in the car and heading to the capital of Georgia.
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Can't remember what it is.
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That is all unfolding right now.
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Too many black people live there.
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Because we can force the legislature to force the governor to order an emergency session
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and not certify it.
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The legislature must stand up now with the governor who works for the Clintons, not just
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his chief of staff is the problem.
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That's coming up next segment.
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I got to refuel though here.
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We need funding.
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Yeah, no shit.
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I find this unconvincing, uninteresting.
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Yeah.
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I'm a little bit blown away by the, the level to which they're willing to embarrass themselves
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without actually.
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Are you talking about Rudy?
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I'm talking about the whole, the whole, the whole kitten caboose.
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They're all teaming up to make everything a sick joke.
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And it's weird me out because that suggests to me that we're going to have to escalate
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from sick joke to full on military takeover or, or they're just going to, I don't know.
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You know, he's not just going to go.
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You notice how I escalated.
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I wrote a parody.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He's not just going to go.
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It's not just going to go.
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So here we go.
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Let's ride this.
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I don't know why everyone's acting like we can just wait and he'll just go.
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Well, I think that's one of the good re like the reasons why I'm really glad that our show
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is about Alex Jones.
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Yeah.
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Because at least I know he's full of shit.
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I don't know what's going on in terms of other places and that's very scary to me.
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So I'd rather not have, uh, you know, an opinion that people take too seriously on it because
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I could be wrong.
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Right.
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I could misinterpret something with Alex totally fine saying he is full of shit, full of shit,
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trying to get attention and push extremist views.
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We can handle that.
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Yeah.
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And then along the way, sometimes there's something really fun.
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Like look, Hey, it's always fun to write a parody song of the devil went down in Georgia.
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True.
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It's been done a lot.
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A lot.
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Cause it's great.
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Yeah.
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Another thing that's fun is when Alex says things like this.
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Imagine a doctor who episode where the Daleks are always little robots rolling around like
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R2D2 saying, exterminate, exterminate.
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But it said, they said, hello, my friend, I'm here to test you for the COVID.
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Oh, sorry.
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You've got it.
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You've got to go away.
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That would be a very different villain.
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And now they actually in Japan and Europe have Daleks.
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They look just like Daleks, right out of Dr. Who, whoever signed it copied a Dalek.
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Sure.
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And they come up and stick a swab up your nose.
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And if you don't, an inner hatch opens up and a gun comes up.
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I want one of those.
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I want one of those right now.
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I want a swab to gun transfer out of one barrel.
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I love that so much.
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All right.
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So there's this robot that's going around and it's programmed, I guess, because he's
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not saying that someone's captaining this robot.
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I assume the robot comes up to you and it's supposed to swab you and somehow it's in its
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programming that if you refuse, it shakes you down with a gun.
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It threatens you with a gun, presumably not shooting you if you then agree to get the
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swab.
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No, of course not.
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It's traditional carrot and stick.
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All right.
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Here's your swab or here's your gun.
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Turns out you're going to choose the swab in the end.
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Carrot, carrot, stick, swab, gun.
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It's all the same.
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It's all the same thing.
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I think...
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Why would you even need...
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I would prefer a knife.
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If it just switched from a swab to a knife and it's like, one of these is going up your
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nose today, you choose.
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These machines would be made by doctors who I assume would not prioritize gun.
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All right, the head of the Mayo Clinic is a real gun nut.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So we're developing this robot that's specifically to test people for COVID to make it so people
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don't have to risk getting exposed to run tests.
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I feel like you didn't answer my only question.
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Of course it has gone.
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See?
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Now we're in business.
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I will green light anything.
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This is amazing.
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It's in the news.
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I'm going to need a citation on this.
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I'm going to need a source.
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If anybody...
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I looked it up, I could not find information on this.
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Although I think what he's referring to is that there are robots that are used for COVID
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testing.
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Sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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In a number of countries, they've rolled out some models of these and I think he's combining
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that with, there was a crowd control robot in China from maybe last year that they were
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working on that would give little shocks to people to try and corral them in different
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directions.
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An R2D2 shock, yeah.
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Yeah, I think he's mixing up those two things, but the mental image is so funny.
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So if I take this swab, no, I will not.
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What about now?
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Now here's the thing that tickles me the most.
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This is what tickles me the most.
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The inside hatch.
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The gun comes out.
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That's what it is.
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That's what it is.
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It's so great.
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Yes.
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That's what it's so great.
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It's a perfect image.
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It's so fucking funny.
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It's the hatch.
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Yeah.
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Does it, does it shoot out with a cartoon, like spring, like boing.
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Yeah, of course.
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It's got a robot hand.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Stick them up.
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And then it takes your wallet.
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Oh boy, yeah.
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Alright, I'm here for a showdown.
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So this has been the fun part of the show.
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Meet me at high noon.
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So now Alex gets into like what, uh, you know, his sort of Georgia story line.
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Okay.
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And this is the big story.
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Lawsuit.
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Georgia Secretary of State signed a legal deal with Democrats challenging how ballots
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are processed.
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A law is going to be processed after and allowing mail-in ballots to be counted without actual
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proof or signatures being confirmed and it just goes on from there.
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This is another classic case of Alex getting a Trump talking point that's factually incorrect
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and then it's spiraling out of control when he's recovering it into something else altogether.
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In this case, Trump tweeted about how the, how Georgia was stealing the election and
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that there had been a consent decree by the Secretary of State that quote, makes it impossible
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to check and match signatures on ballots and envelopes, et cetera.
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Trump went on to say, quote, they know, uh, they're, they knew they were going to cheat,
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must expose real signatures.
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This dude's tweeting like a detective in a shitty noir film who's just been shot, scrawling
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on a piece of paper, must expose real signatures.
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Anyway, I have no idea how a consent decree would make it impossible for people to compare
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signatures, but I guess that's the best Trump's people can come up with to keep people like
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Alex busy and keep people funneling money into that stopping of steals.
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Sure, sure.
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In reality, according to the Associated Press, the state absolutely requires signatures to
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match.
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The issue comes down to this quote, a lawsuit by the Democratic Party, which led to the
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agreement, argued that minorities were disproportionately affected when they had their ballots rejected.
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Among other things, the settlement set steps for local election officials to notify a voter
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by phone, mail, or email in a timely fashion about problems with a signature.
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Are they really trying to tell me that a state governed by Kemp has not done enough voter
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suppression?
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It's an interesting angle.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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It's like he didn't win the election because it was free and fair, Dan.
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Some have said that.
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Like maybe if there were paper ballots, we might find out that the results might have
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been different.
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It could be.
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Yeah.
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And this is just another legal challenge that Trump's camp is making, trying to block the
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finalization of the election, but it's going to get thrown out just like all the others.
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The only thing I find really interesting here is the dynamic where Alex can't even really
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understand what the issue is.
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Alex thinks that it has to do with deadlines and votes without signatures, but that's not
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the case.
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The legal challenge has to do with whether or not the Secretary of State had the authority
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to make the changes that were made, which were designed to create more oversight and
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better handling of signature matching.
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The suit doesn't seem to even take issue with the actual change that was made, just that
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it was allegedly made unilaterally and without proper approval, which is pretty deep in the
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weeds in terms of legal challenges to an election.
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I'm not surprised Alex doesn't know the details on this.
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I wouldn't expect him to, since being aware of how much of a Hail Mary this is would probably
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be bad for business.
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Can you imagine if that's what did it?
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I believe that right before we started recording, this challenge got thrown out.
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Yeah, of course.
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I believe, if I understand the headline I just saw correctly, I believe this case has
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just died.
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It got thrown out the moment the judge realized that it was written in colored pencil.
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Wow.
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So, can you imagine if that's what, if all of a sudden they were like, oh, the Secretary
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of State didn't do it right, so Trump is president again?
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That's not how it goes.
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No.
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That's not how it's going to work for anyone.
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I wouldn't assume it would.
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So obviously, knowing that this is weak, Alex recommends the right course of action, which
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is investing in gun robots.
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I lied.
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It's not.
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Everyone must go to the capital of Georgia now, and you must surround the governor's
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mansion now.
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I'm coming.
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I'll be there.
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And I'm bringing Roger Stone, and I'm bringing a bunch of other people.
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That's what I'm doing behind the scenes.
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And I'm calling the damn White House, and I'm telling Trump he needs to go and get on
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a frickin' airplane and land at the capital of Georgia and go into the governor's mansion
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and stop sitting there and letting his lawyers do it.
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We need to see people power, and this will do it.
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Yeah, that's a great idea.
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Let Trump storm the governor's mansion.
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I think that's a great idea.
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I think that's a great idea.
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It would look cool.
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I think the only thing that would be better, so that one is a great idea, and he should
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definitely do that.
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And then I think everybody in the Senate should stab him once.
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I do love the idea that he's like, I'm coming to Georgia, and I'm fucking bringing Roger
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Stone with me.
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Who cares?
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I want him to be like, and we're going to settle this election by single comment, combat.
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Choose your champion for we have Roger Stone in this corner.
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And then the camera pans over, and he's got a lampshade on his head.
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Complaining about Elliot Spitzer or some shit.
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Yeah, I'll fight whoever you fucking want.
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I don't give a shit.
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I will only fight if Elliot Spitzer's dad will come against me.
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Where's Bongino?
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Where's Bongino?
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So Alex has a little guest on this episode.
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It's not a great sign.
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All right, Enrique Torrio is an awesome American.
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Oh no, that's not good.
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He's the leader of the Proud Boys, and he was there helping provide security in DC for
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us and did an incredible job.
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So Enrique Torrio, guy who's the head of the Proud Boys, is on.
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Cool.
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See, this is the thing that I'm talking about.
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How is it that we have the juxtaposition of Rudy Giuliani melting like a fucking candle
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in front of us with Enrique Torrio being like, what if we killed all the leftists?
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Like that's, you can't have both.
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Here's what's interesting.
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Enrique Torrio is clearly trying to learn a little bit about PR, because he's doing
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some heavy lifting on this appearance, trying to give the, like, hey, we just like to hang
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out.
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You know, the Proud Boys, we're just like a drinking club.
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We just like to have a good time, and hey, we don't just let anybody in.
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We do extensive background checks on people like Rufio Panman, based stick man, did extensive
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background searches, whatever the case.
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He's trying to make it look much more respectable, and Alex is actually the one who's kind of
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ruining it.
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You know, when somebody, when a man's down, I don't want to keep attacking him.
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These are people that attack women and children, and then as soon as you let them up, they
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attack somebody else.
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Yeah, of course.
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Once they assault somebody, I think a good, some broken ribs will teach them.
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So Alex seems to be the one who's pushing this towards even more extreme, and it seems
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like a nerd talking to a bully, like interviewing a bully, who's like, oh, isn't it fun how
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you kick their asses?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a good thing you're not bullying me.
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You were kicking those guys' asses.
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Yeah, it's great.
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That's great.
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Well, you know, when I beat people up, I kind of, you know, once they're down, it's kind
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of, that's the end of the fight.
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No, you should keep kicking them.
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Yeah, Jesus.
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Yeah, it's very strange.
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Alex is kind of pushing.
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You know, what we're trying to do is just show that we're a group of normal people like
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everyone else.
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I mean, we have our own political beliefs, but what we do is we get together and we just
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share community, just like we do.
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I think you should kill people.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Hey, Alex, we've gotten so much bad press, um, and a lot of our members turn out to be
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real crazy.
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Nazis.
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Well, that's one word.
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Well.
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We do a lot of background checks, but apparently not on that kind of thing.
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No, no, they can name a fuck ton of serials though.
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That's important.
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Exactly.
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Look, here's the deal.
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We're trying not to do all that shit publicly, all this stuff about kicking people when they're
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down.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We're trying to look different.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I know that the Oath Keepers and your buddy Stuart Rhodes kind of lean into that.
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We're going to kill you stuff.
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Sure.
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It's great.
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We're different.
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Alex, Alex, buddy, there are two ways to go.
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We're going underground, my friend.
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We're going to survive and then we'll kill people again in 10 years or four or whatever.
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We'll be, we'll make it through this.
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We're not going to go out here all Nazi guns a blazing today.
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And Alex is like, what if we're Nazis?
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I think if I had to guess, I think it's just like glass half full, half empty in terms
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of the DC rally.
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I think that Alex is trying to play it like half full, like we are going to take over
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the world.
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Sure.
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There was a million people there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Whereas Enrique Torrio, it's probably like, yeah, it was a lot of people, but it wasn't
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that many.
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We can't take over the world with this many people.
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Not enough.
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Yeah.
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Not enough.
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So maybe try and put on a face of respectability.
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Or invite general Petraeus and see if he'll do us a solid boom.
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So Alex is impressed that I, I don't know if this is actually true.
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I think it's not, but Alex thinks that no one has ever infiltrated the proud boys.
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I don't think that's true.
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But he has a theory as to why, and I think it's pretty funny.
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I don't know how you guys have kept your organization pretty much infiltration free and how you
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guys have done such a great job in the organization.
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How do people get involved with proud boys and how are you keeping the organization in
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infiltration free?
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I mean, I guess you look at Antifa, they all look like devil-worshipping vampires.
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Can't name any serious.
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They're total cowards.
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I guess all you guys look pretty macho.
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Yeah, they're too macho to infiltrate, you know?
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Yeah, leftists are, we just can't look macho enough to infiltrate the proud of us.
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Too much soy or something.
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Yeah, that's our issue.
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Yeah.
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So I think that Alex has a pretty consistent thread going of just like really gaslighting
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his audience about the crowd size.
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He's talking about like it's straight up, maybe even a million people there.
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Real tough to sell.
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Yeah.
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And then something even more tough happens.
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Police estimated upwards of a million bigger than Louis Farrakhan's event.
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Incredible.
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We're getting Gavin McGinnis lined up, dealing with some Skype issues.
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Oh boy.
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Oh, that's a surprise.
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First of all, Skype issues, not a surprise.
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Second of all, not a surprise that now we're getting Gavin on.
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Oh man.
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We're, we're really trying to infiltrate the proud boys, I guess.
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I have this, I had this interesting experience while I was listening to this episode and
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it was largely, oh, okay, we're just going to interview a bunch of people with the proud
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boys and extremists and all right.
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I'm not interested.
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Hey, who else wants to start a war?
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You want to start a war?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I'm not super interested except for just to say like, yeah, okay.
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I haven't, uh, Gavin and Enrique are talking to Alex and the whole conversation is largely
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about everyone's got to go to Georgia.
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Yeah.
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It's like, okay, I think this is bad, but I also don't respect Gavin at all.
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No.
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Uh, I don't, I don't, not really.
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He's not interesting.
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He's not funny.
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He doesn't say anything.
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Um, so are they trying to drum up like support from the proud boys?
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Like, Hey, we're focusing on the proud boys.
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The proud boys need to go to Atlanta.
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Is that like the, the idea here?
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No, I think they're just trying to show a stiff upper lip and sort of like, we're going
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to be, you can come to Atlanta because the proud boys will be there to fight with you
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in case shit goes bad or something.
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I think that that's kind of a lot of the message.
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Yeah.
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Stop being a coward.
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You'll have, they'll have your back.
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Right.
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Um, so Alex asks Enrique to define the moment that they're in.
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He keeps doing this with people, every single guest.
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He asks to define the moment.
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Okay.
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Uh, and then something very, very familiar happens.
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Enrique Tarrio has taken over proud boys, Gab McGinnis started as an idea to promote
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family and men and fraternity and unity for American men and American men are under attack.
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But now the globalists are so scared of it.
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You've gone through the fire.
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You stood up at hundreds of Antifa events for freedom.
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You defended so many people.
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What would you call Enrique Tarrio?
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This historic moment we're at right now.
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Guys want to put his mic on for him, go ahead Enrique Tarrio.
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Sorry, that was my fault.
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Oh, that's our fault.
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Go ahead.
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It's your fault.
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Go ahead.
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We don't care.
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We love it.
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Technology back and forth.
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Go ahead.
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Ooh, that happens multiple times.
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Guys.
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I think there's some mic muting issues.
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Uh, I'm not entirely sure.
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Oh boy.
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Anyway, uh, Gavin shows up and we're not going to listen to too much of him because I find
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him, uh, unsufferable.
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Odious?
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Yes, that too.
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Uh, but, uh, I just wanted to say that I'm thrilled that he's decided to give up.
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We proved it this weekend that we are on the side of what's right and they are on the side
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of what's wrong.
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And if you can't see that now, I give up.
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Congratulations.
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Good, good, good.
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Please, please give up.
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Didn't Gavin come on Alex's show like a year ago saying, fuck this, we're done, give up.
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What's the point?
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Yep.
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Nothing, nothing expresses, uh, you know, just like leader more than any time you lose
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moody deciding to quit moody lash outs.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's how I want to, I admire it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I do not.
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I, a lot of people would listen to that and say, I would die for that man.
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Anyway.
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Fuck, uh, fuck Gavin.
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Uh, Owen, Owen Troyer, leader of the caravan comes in and they talk about their huge crowds.
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Owen, you did the caravan through the South up to DC.
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The police that we talked to estimated, cause I was saying 200,000 that day, cause the police
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were saying 200,001 spot.
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Turns out that was three and a half miles.
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People going back to the beginning of it.
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Three and a half miles.
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They're estimating 800 to 800,000, a million people, and then Antifa attacking at night,
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getting their asses kicked, all of it.
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What would you describe this moment in history as well?
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From the images I've seen sad.
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I think that this had more people in attendance than the million man March.
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From the images I've seen sure of your caravan.
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I've done standup for larger crowds.
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And I was a failure.
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Uh, I don't know.
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Oh boy.
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I don't care about relative size to the million man March either.
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They seem really hung up on that.
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They really want to make sure that this March is better than other black people's Marches.
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It seems like a- It's bigger than Louis Farrakhan's March.
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Why did you choose that one?
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It seems like a sticking point.
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They brought it up a couple times.
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Yeah, it seems very important to them that- I would ask you, Jordan, how do you define
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the times?
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How do I define the times?
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How do you define this moment that we're in?
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I would say pathetic.
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It is sad.
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I would say pathetic.
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I would say that the human race has responded brilliantly and terribly.
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At the same time, to the point where, man, I'm really hoping we lose 98% of people and
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get the reefs back.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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The 98% of reefs lost?
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That's a tragedy.
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That's not great.
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So Owen has had a revelation lately.
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Sure.
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This doesn't seem like a revelation.
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Seems like very similar to catchphrase of Ben Shapiro's kind of.
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Great.
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I would say that party politic is emotion over evidence.
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It's emotion over evidence.
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Same thing with the mainstream news, emotion over evidence.
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We live in reality.
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We live in reality.
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A million people out there.
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Nobody got COVID.
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Nobody got sick.
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I'm riding back in the airplane.
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Everyone's fine.
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Laughing about the dumb mask thing.
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They almost kicked me off a plane floor, but we won't go into that.
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It's far too soon to know what kind of effect that DC rally is going to have on COVID rates,
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but it's not too soon to discuss broader trends that we've seen from past events.
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If Trump's rallies throughout 2020 are any indication, Owen may have to eat those words
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in the future once data is available.
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A report released in October by the Center for American Progress said, quote, analysis
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by the Center for American Progress finds that about half of the president's 22 campaign
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rallies held between June and September were followed by county level increase in COVID-19
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cases suggesting the events may have led to community spread.
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I don't have data on the recent rally, nor does anyone yet, but I mostly cut out that
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clip because I have a hunch that Owen's going to look pretty bad in hindsight as will this.
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It's like crazy from, from like five blocks up to the Supreme Court, you're, you're packed
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in like sardines.
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I mean, there's, you can barely even breathe.
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Poor choice of words, I would say there.
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Oh Jesus.
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So we end the 16th and we jump into the 17th and this is, this was really strange at the
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beginning.
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First of all, Alex screws up his, his whole thing, this whole time period between the
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election and the inauguration.
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What do you, what is it?
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79 days of hell.
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Yeah.
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79 days of hell.
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Yeah.
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It's a countdown.
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Day after the election, 78 days of hell left.
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Yeah.
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Alex screws it up.
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Goes backwards on it.
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It is now day 64 of the 79 days of hell.
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Communist China and its new allies are desperately trying to overthrow the election of President
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Trump.
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I understand that it's an easy mistake to make, but no one cares about this except you.
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This is not caught on.
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It's not great.
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It's not, no one's going to remember 10 years from now, oh, you remember the 79 days of
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hell.
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You're the one who's pushing this really hard.
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You have to actually get it right.
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You can't say we're on day 64 now.
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There is only 15 days of hell left.
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There's a little bit of a, yeah.
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Oh, is hell going to end on the 30th?
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He's trying to count down, but he messed up.
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And that's fine.
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It is fine.
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But it's not.
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No, of course not.
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This is his baby.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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There was a weird sound and I don't mean like poor quality sound or anything like I really
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felt like Alex is, it sounded like he was reading a commercial at the beginning of this
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episode.
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And now the mainline Republican party has awoken to the truth of the new world order
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and world government and Tucker Carlson is a fancier, more well-produced version of Infowars.
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Not because Tucker Carlson's copying yours truly, but because the world has awoken.
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Yes, the enemy's striking back hard, but my friends, when it comes to the culture war,
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when it comes to recognizing the UN and its true aim of world government depopulation,
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we are winning.
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So didn't that, I mean, that seems, that sounds like a promo.
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Yeah, that was a movie trailer.
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Yeah.
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That was pre, that was LaFontaine all the way.
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Yeah.
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And I was really thrown by it because it just seemed like, what is going on?
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And then he goes to a couple of like prerecorded reports and I realized he just wasn't there.
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That was prerecorded.
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Oh, that was, okay.
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Yeah.
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Alex shows up 14 minutes into the episode.
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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us.
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I've got plenty of important stuff to cover.
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I don't normally start the broadcast with five minutes or six minutes of Tucker Carlson,
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but he knocked it out of the park.
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So yeah, Alex shows up late, I guess he was getting more information about Georgia or
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something.
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Sure.
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There's an interesting dynamic that's going on and I think that though Alex is crazy and
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all this stuff is nonsense, I think he's benefiting from QAnon quite a bit.
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Yeah.
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Cause you know, you remember the dynamic that existed, you know, in previous times between
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people like Fox News and Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.
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Alex Jones justified Glenn Beck being crazy because he's like, I'm not Alex Jones.
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Exactly.
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He was able to sanitize himself and make himself seem more palatable to a wider audience.
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Yeah, he was a bullshit launderer.
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Yeah.
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And because there was someone who could be like, I'm not that guy.
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I'm stepping on that guy in order to make myself look respectable.
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I think Alex now has QAnon to be like, I'm not QAnon.
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That's fair.
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That's a fair point.
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And because everything has just gotten so much worse in terms of public discourse and
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people filtering information, like I think, I think he's able to like take advantage of
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people thinking that like there's only one person who's wrong at any time or whatever.
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Not realizing QAnon and Alex can be wrong.
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Glenn Beck and Alex are both wrong.
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You think, uh, you think QAnon stuff is going to, uh, become leaderless and they're going
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to be like, eh, maybe we'll go back to Alex Jones.
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No, I don't.
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Well, I don't know.
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I don't know what to predict of it, but I think that most of those people are too
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pilled to go back to Alex.
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Too far gone to go back to the light stuff.
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Yeah.
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I think they would find it a little bit disappointing.
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Sure.
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They would find it ungratifying.
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Yeah.
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So even though Alex is late, starting the show 14 minutes in or whatever, he did say
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that he has some important stuff to talk about.
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Of course.
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Now generally when he has important things to talk about, it's bizarre fantasies.
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Right.
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Notions.
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Of course.
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Things he's misremembering.
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Half baked anything.
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True.
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Yeah.
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And my, one of my favorite things is reporting Twitter comments as if they're news.
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That's good.
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Another comment on Twitter said half the PM and the future head of the state of our country
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have been openly promoting the globalist world economic forum, great recent initiative for
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months already, but I cannot find a single mainstream media article in Canada that has
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mentioned or discussed it because you're a slave.
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You're not supposed to see all that info.
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You're supposed to be preconditioned to the UN world government takeover slogans before
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you ever consciously understand what it is.
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So this is really standard bullshit, but I think it highlights something that's really
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interesting within like Alex and his rhetoric.
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Sure.
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You can easily find articles discussing the ideas presented by Klaus Schwab in references
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by name to quote the great reset in media going back to early this year after his book
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was published.
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Just a simple Google search shows that before July, there were articles in Vanity Fair,
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the Hill, the Financial Times, Forbes, and plenty of international outlets.
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This is the same thing as why aren't there any Muslim voices denouncing terrorism.
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You didn't look for it.
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You assume it's not there.
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And now you're making out a conspiracy out of the idea that you haven't found anything.
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There are plenty of people talking about these ideas.
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They were just not places you were interested in.
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They weren't in publications that you maybe normally read.
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The Hill is publicly available.
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It's there.
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These articles are there.
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If you wanted to, if you had any interest, that discussion's there.
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No one's hiding anything from you.
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You can type questions into the Google search bar.
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True.
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So if he's like giving you one of those rhetorical questions, like how come no one's talking
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about this, you could type in like how come no one's talking about this and you would
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have to fill in.
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Right.
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I think that what's going on is a mis-phrasing of what they believe or what they experience
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as the problem.
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Sure.
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They want these ideas to be yelled on the front page of every paper.
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That is what they think they merit.
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It's so important.
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Exactly.
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In the same way that all of Alex's conspiracies whenever it's like the media's not covering
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X, Y, or Z, like there's an article about why you're wrong about this everywhere.
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You can find it if you want.
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They just want this, like the coverage.
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The same thing with like no one covers like Trump being good and you can find articles
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and publications about good things Trump's done.
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It's just that no one is bowing down and being like, oh Trump, you're the king.
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They're not covering it the way you want to.
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They're covering these ideas in a real world way as opposed to your way.
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And because that isn't, your view isn't being shouted from the rooftops, it's experienced
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as a coverup.
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And that's just not, that's not accurate.
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Yeah.
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They're not saying what I want them to say, so they're not covering it at all.
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Exactly.
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And I'm not going to look for the articles that would prove my point wrong.
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And that's bad for business, Dan.
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Well, the thing that's really sad about it is like, I'm only talking about this phenomenon
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right now because Alex is reading someone's tweet.
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Like that's, is there any bad take you can't find on Twitter?
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Like you can find, like that's the situation.
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That's the corollary to your lies about the piano.
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Bees are too good.
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Wait, I bet you could find that.
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Bees are too good.
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Yeah.
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For the environment.
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Exactly.
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Shit.
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Exactly.
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Fuck.
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There's no oil executive somewhere who hasn't tweeted out like let's kill all the bees so
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I don't have to deal with flowers anymore.
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Trying to think of a take that isn't on there.
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Candy sucks.
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Someone doesn't like candy.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Definitely there.
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It's all there, man.
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It's all there.
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If you want to find a bad take, you just search it into Twitter.
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Air tastes bad.
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Of course it does.
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Do you know where air comes from?
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The sky.
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And your butt.
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Exactly.
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Comes out of people's butts.
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That's the only place air comes from.
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So anyway, Ali Alexander shows up.
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And this clip is actually really interesting too.
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Like in the same way that last clip really demonstrated this sort of phenomenon of like
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not looking for evidence and then claiming there's absence of evidence of something.
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This is another really interesting thing that Alex and his people do quite a bit.
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We're really appreciative of all the grassroots work out there, but stoptheseal.us features
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our coalition partners and we're always willing to work with anyone.
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Okay.
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Roger.
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There is a phenomenon where then people go get permits.
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Right.
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And then they take over and then say it's their event.
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Exactly.
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We don't care about the event or our name.
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We care about winning.
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We care about winning in the Electoral College and getting Donald Trump above 270.
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You know, I happen to be a strategist, so I'm working with all of these folks.
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Yeah, we did have a vendor who secured the permit and then decided, oh, well, Alex can't
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speak and this person can't speak and that person can't speak.
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And then this shill should speak and this rhino should speak and then made lies about
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the Trump family.
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And, you know, that's going to come out later.
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But you know, we're not going to tolerate our movement being hijacked.
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That's right.
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I mean, I talked to the White House.
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Trump, you did too.
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The White House is going to come to find out these people are running it.
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So that's the reason these ladies are a problem.
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Right.
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And then in our Georgia event, I announced that and now they're coming to take it off.
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So now they put out a flyer that they're going to Georgia and they had Georgia featured as
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a blue state and they misspelled Georgia.
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And so so you you and I were first to announce on our independent channels, we're marching
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to Georgia.
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And again, it's not about we don't give a damn about credit credit.
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These people come to us like you really care about.
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Right.
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And then they do media.
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And it sounds like there's a problem with those disgusting freaks because, you know,
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they don't present well.
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Look at these disgusting freaks.
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They're responsible for all they did.
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They told you about a stolen election.
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When Owen Schroyer got up to speak, he's saying four more years, Trump on the election.
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They tried to jerk him off the stage and even won a saying that he really won.
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So what's going on is that women for America first, that that group got the petition or
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got the permit.
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Yeah.
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And they organized the actual event.
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Right.
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It had a list of speakers that didn't include people like Alex.
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And well, they organized the event.
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Well, there were a lot of people who also decided to descend on Washington at the same
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time.
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Sure.
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But party crashers don't organize the party.
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Well, party crashers are actually more integral to the party than you're willing to.
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There is no party without the crasher.
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That doesn't sound true, but I guess I have to believe you.
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I don't have any evidence.
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Look, why isn't anybody talking about this kind of stuff, Dan?
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I find this fascinating because it's the same thing with like, okay, yeah, freedom works,
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Americans for Prosperity, Koch money, Koch funds, like Astroturfed a ton of the tea party
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in its early days.
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And then Alex glommed onto it and then accused them of taking his movement over.
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Yes, of course.
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And that's exactly what he's doing here.
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Yeah.
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And they won't let them hijack their hijack, Dan.
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Somebody's crashed this thing in DC and they rightfully probably were like, this is going
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to be tough to deal with.
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I understand maybe Alex speaking, but Alex's buddy, I don't know about this.
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And then they have the temerity to get on this show and accuse the people who are the
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actual organizers of stealing their event.
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The balls.
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And then to be like, they don't present well.
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I just like, like Alex does, I really want to like have these clips available just whenever
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I'm just like, oh, women for Trump.
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And it's like, man, you guys don't get it.
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The moment you step out of line, you're no longer for Trump.
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You're just women to them.
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And you know how they treat blank, just women.
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It is kind of shocking to see, like, so fast.
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You could not have organized that event, Alex.
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You could not have.
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We saw the caravan.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Saw what you were capable of.
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The combined work of a ton of grifters added to the population that came to DC.
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But the actual event and people having a reason to be there was done by the work of the people
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who you were impugning.
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Yes.
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And that's why, like, if you're on the right, so stop trying.
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Just stop it.
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Yeah.
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Stop organizing these things.
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Just stop it.
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The people who want to come and get up there and yell and make you look bad and steal all
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your thunder are going to shit on you later.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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You're being used.
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Yep.
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Every time.
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Oh, well.
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Anyway, Alex.
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No, these are my friends.
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They're not your friends.
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Alex is talking to Ali and he wants to know why is Georgia so important?
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Now recap why Georgia is so key.
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Robert Barnes is there.
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Everybody that's smart has been telling me for weeks, you're absolutely right, the White
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House agrees.
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George is key.
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How you doing there, buddy?
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So we got a long pause here.
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Alex?
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Alex, we lost you.
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Alex.
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Alex, this is mission command.
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Alex, wake up.
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Ground controls have made you tough.
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Weird.
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All right.
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So then it goes to commercial.
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I thought that was really strange.
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I mean, the feed just went out.
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Yeah.
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And I don't know what happened there.
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They don't address it when they come back, but...
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Too much flute.
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But here's the thing.
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I know that probably online that didn't happen.
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Sure.
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But I'm listening to it through the feed that goes to all of the radio stations that play
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Alex around the country.
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This is what's syndicated to shortwave too, so whoever's listening, it just cut out.
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Which is...
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That's not good.
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That's an audience you care about.
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That certainly, it's not great.
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They could really fix these problems.
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Maybe not.
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It's doable.
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I don't know.
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It's doable.
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But why?
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That's a good point.
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Anyway, Alex wants to know, where's Trump?
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Where's Trump?
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Hiding.
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Ally!
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Howard, he always was.
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Ally Alexander, tell me where Trump is.
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I hate you guys.
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Let me ask you this question.
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Why aren't we seeing a lot of Trump?
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Because that's his bully pulpit power.
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He still has.
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Why has he been so...
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We saw it tweeting and saying, I won the election yesterday.
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That's not enough.
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I mean, he should be in Georgia.
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He should be having rallies.
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I keep hearing he's going to have these rallies.
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When do those come?
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So the rallies were going to come and then there was a compromise reached inside the
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White House.
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So I'm just...
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It's my first time talking about it.
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And what they decided was until these cases start making their way through the courts,
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Trump does not want to position himself where the courts can hold a tweet against him or
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a rally against him.
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And so his tweets are very concentrated.
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Counterpoint.
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Alex just said that he tweeted the other day that I won the election.
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There is that.
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The Democrats are everywhere declaring victory fraudulently, calling him a dictator, but
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he's afraid to speak out.
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Right.
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That's ridiculous.
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And it is ridiculous.
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No, that sounds right.
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The courts held during the the ban, the terrorism ban that was described as the Muslim ban,
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they held a tweet against him.
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DACA, they held a tweet against him.
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So Trump is trying to play the legal strategy smart.
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Counterpoint.
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Trump tweeted, I won the election.
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Yeah, that is a really smart strategy, I think.
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Counterpoint.
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Trump tweeted something about Antifa scum.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He seems to be.
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Your story doesn't hold water, Ali.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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You can make up all the fantasy fiction that you want.
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But Trump is a giant, cowardly loser.
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And I assume you guys are going to start killing all of us immediately.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Trump wants to get out there, man.
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He wants.
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He does.
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No, he wants to play golf.
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He wants to get out there.
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He wants to do his rallies.
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There's plans to do rallies.
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See?
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In the meantime, stop the steal.us.
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We will keep posting rallies every state capitol, your noon, your local time until the electoral
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college meets.
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And maybe after that, maybe after that, maybe we never give this country back to them.
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He keeps calling it the electoral college, which is fun, but, uh, I don't care who gives
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a shit.
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Yeah.
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But it's like this thing is like, what he's doing is, Hey, yeah, Trump wants to come out
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and say hi to the people.
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He wants to be the figurehead, but he can't be, he's got to play it smart cause the courts.
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So for now it's just me.
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Here's my website.
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Wow.
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Fund us so we can have demonstrations at every state capitol and never give the country back.
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Whatever that means.
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See, I, I get it.
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And I understand why everybody is like mocking this and I get why people are writing so many
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op-eds and all this stuff that's like, Trump can't do a coup and this is just a grift and
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all that stuff.
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But it's like this grift is gonna run out.
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They don't just stop it when the grift runs out, they create a new grift and whatever
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they need to do.
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Whatever they need to do, they will do to continue that grift.
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Right.
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It's not a joke, man.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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It is primarily a scam that people like Alex and Allie are running.
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Sure.
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But the scam, if taken seriously, it's super dangerous.
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Terrifying.
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And in the past when it's been a scam that's hurt civilians and normal people, you know,
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it's awful and it is what it is.
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But now it's a game where you could hurt the whole country.
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Yeah, the world.
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And yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The world.
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Yeah, it's too much.
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Now, I've had a theory for this whole time that Allie Alexander was working with Roger
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Stone on Stop the Steal because it is the same name as Roger Stone's alleged poll watching
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organization from 2016.
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And I didn't need to actually do any further research on it.
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They just told me he was.
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Nice.
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Allie Alexander, a great political analyst and also publisher, is here with us.
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He's been a tireless fighter with Roger Stone starting Start the Steal a Few Years ago with
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Roger and then Roger's handed the baton to him.
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Roger's going to be in Atlanta, Georgia tomorrow.
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I'm going to be there tonight.
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Okay.
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So I was right.
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Yep.
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This is all connected.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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If Alex is to be believed, which he's usually not.
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True.
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But this seems like something that makes total sense.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's Roger's domain.
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Yeah.
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He was licensed, he registered it, and now he's taken his cut.
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Yep.
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I have no doubt he's taken a cut.
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Well, and here's the thing.
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If this is a conspiracy, all conspirators can be charged with every aspect of a crime.
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Rico.
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Exactly.
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So, if Allie follows through with his plan.
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Okay.
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Roger might be in trouble.
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Good.
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I'm going to just leak out our plan, Alex.
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They've talked about doing, oh, we're going to elect Joe Biden and do a virtual inauguration.
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Good.
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Then Alex and I will fill the streets with 5 million patriots.
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And Trump will be there and we'll inaugurate him, doesn't it?
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We'll inaugurate Donald Trump.
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Because the Democrats said they were going to do that if Trump won.
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Yeah.
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That they would just break the victory up.
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When?
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Well, we're not going to break it up.
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When?
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We're going to reconstitute it.
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Who said that?
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If you guys want to act as insurrectionists, well, then we know how to deal with that.
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But we will bring tents.
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We will bring trucks.
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We will bring cars.
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I agree.
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And now is the time after Georgia to start occupying DC, period.
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So apparently the plan is occupying DC, which you're going to get bored of very quickly,
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Alex.
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You have no ability to run anything like this.
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No, no, no, no.
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You have no interest in anything that, especially once the cameras stop, like one of the things
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about those kinds of occupations is that they get boring after a while.
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People might cover it for a bit and then there's long periods where there aren't cameras, there's
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no attention and you don't have, you're not built for that.
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So no, you're not going to do that.
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But assuming that you do, you're not going to get 5 million people to come to DC.
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No.
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That is not going to happen.
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No.
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And let's imagine what's going to happen if you try and inaugurate a second president.
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No, that'll work.
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No.
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Dark Pope.
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It'll be fine.
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We'll have two Popes.
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Somebody will dig up Biden's remains and put them on trial.
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It'd be great.
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I'm fascinated by trying- I'm just remembering my medieval warfare
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history.
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I remember people writing down, sieges were our favorite part.
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You know?
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That four months of waiting for supply lines to catch up, sitting there going hungry, not
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fighting anybody, just sitting there in a tent.
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I think Alex wants his listeners to do that while buying survival food from him.
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Exactly.
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To keep rations.
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Of course.
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And then Alex will show up with a bullhorn every now and again and take credit for everything.
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Like medieval kings fighting a war.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So let's try and think about what in the real world would that look like if Alex- I mean
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first of all, it's a leap to imagine five million people would show up.
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So let's stipulate that five million do show up.
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Sure.
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Now they decide they're going to inaugurate Trump though he lost the election.
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Well.
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What happens then?
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I guess we divide up territories?
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I mean, I don't know.
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The mind reels.
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Steve Pachanik might get a job.
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I'm telling you, I'm just telling you.
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We just got to isolate him.
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We just got to isolate him.
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We give him, we give him all Alaska.
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It's the biggest state.
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The old werewolf treatment.
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Exactly.
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Take all of these, take all of them and say, you know what?
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We agree with everything you're doing.
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We love what's going on.
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There's a lot of resources in Alaska.
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We're going to say- But what about the good people of Alaska?
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We're starting a pilot program.
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We want to put your ideas into action, but we're not sure because they're not tried and
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tested yet.
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So we want to move all conservatives to Alaska and you guys just work it out there and then
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bring it back to us whenever you're ready.
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I feel like this is not fair to the people who live in Alaska.
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Oh, that's true.
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Yeah.
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That is definitely true.
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Oh well.
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The moon.
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We'll give Alaskans Hawaii.
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Ooh.
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And then we'll give Hawaii to Japan.
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Wait.
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This is going to get out of control.
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Now I'm trying to rebook everything and it's trouble.
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So let's leave that aside for another day.
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All right.
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Alex gets it.
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He's been doing on this episode his Brian Stelter impression, which is not a good impression.
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That one's great.
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Now it's really funny because apparently it's not his.
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Brian Stelter goes, there's no evidence and they have none and they shouldn't be on air.
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Don't go watch them because we have hours and hours of evidence a day.
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It's ridiculous.
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You know, Mark Dies would be proud of that impression.
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Well, I mean, I'm not saying Mark ripped me off, he's done a great job, but I was already
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doing it.
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I believe that.
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Okay.
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I don't.
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I don't either.
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I don't either.
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I don't either.
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I don't either.
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I don't either.
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Alex stole Brian Stelter impression from Mark Dies.
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Sad.
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The thing that always makes me feel like an alien to these people is what they laugh at.
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Yeah.
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Like, was that that funny?
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What did you laugh at, Ali?
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What did you laugh at?
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Was it just that he did a voice?
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I think so.
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And if so.
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Ooh.
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Yeah, well, I mean, I think that that was one of the challenges of doing standup was,
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first of all, not thinking the things that I said were that funny.
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Sure.
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That's a big challenge.
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And often the audience agreeing.
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Yeah.
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And then, you know, things that I saw other people say that weren't all that funny and
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audiences thinking they were hilarious.
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Sure.
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You know, people have different senses of humor.
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There's no accounting for that.
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Totally.
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And it's bewildering.
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Yeah.
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I'll tell you a few that the stuff on InfoWars that is humorous to those folks who are on
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as guests.
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It's worse than anything, most things that I've seen at comedy shows.
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Yeah, it feels alien.
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It really does.
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Because in comedy, you know, you've seen every kind of, I've seen the gamut of people trying
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to be funny all across the board.
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And even they have nothing, there's nothing like this.
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This is just a series of people who only understand each other and laugh at these weird things
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that are just divorced from reality.
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Yeah.
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It's wild.
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I mean, so much of comedy and so much of what you find funny is the ability to understand
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sort of shared perceptions or shared ideas.
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And I think once people have such fractured realities that they live in, it makes sense
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that humor wouldn't translate at all.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Between them.
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Yeah.
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That's sad.
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How could you make a joke about the sun rising if they're like, we've never seen the sun and
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it's dark all the time.
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And you're like, okay.
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It'd be tough.
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There's no shared point of commonality.
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So in this next clip, Ali yells that he's signing his death warrant and he's going to
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fight this thing all the way to his grave.
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And so all of these guys, I'm so proud to be working with you, Alex, and you, Ed.
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We've got to rush the gates.
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We've got to be the barbarians that rush the gates in the castle, or we're all dead.
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It's really that simple.
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So I'm signing my death warrant.
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It's liberty or it's death.
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Alex, I think you're in the same boat.
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Oh, I'm total commitment.
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Every cell in my body is commanding me to take action.
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I'm not in control.
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I just remembered when he got sued by Chobani and Alex said, I will fight this.
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I will win or I will die.
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I will win or he settled a week later.
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I'm real sorry about that stuff that I did.
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I will win or die.
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That's you know what?
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A error of my ways.
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Look, Hamdi Ulukaya, I am so sorry that I said those things about you.
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Please don't sue me.
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Please don't sue me.
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Uh, okay.
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Alex, whatever.
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Oh boy.
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Anyway, uh, Ali leaves.
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I guess he's got to head down to Georgia for Alex to meet him down there.
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And Alex takes some calls and this is such a fucking performance on Alex's part.
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I believe that what's going on here is that Alex thinks that this caller is nuts and he
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doesn't want to talk to him.
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So he decides to pretend to be mad about something else.
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Dave in Nevada.
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You're on the air, Dave.
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Yes.
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My topic is predictions on the coronal mass ejection, uh, brain shifts and the report.
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You see, you know, we're not screening your call.
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You're actually on air live right now.
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Sure.
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Oh, put you on hold, put you on hold.
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Listen, I have a thing, I put you on hold, I have a thing about callers.
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I love you to death, but I'm not other talk shows where I pre-screen you for an hour.
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Want to have you a clean phone.
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You want to tell us what you're calling in about a scrape.
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Once you get on air, you tell us what you want to cover.
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You don't have to ask permission, sir.
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He wasn't.
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He was telling you what his topic was.
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Coronal mass ejection.
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His phone sounded fine compared to the callers that you generally have on this show.
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Real easy.
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He wants to talk about predicting coronal mass eject ejections, brain chips.
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Yep.
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And I think Alex was like, I don't want to fucking talk to this dude.
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Nope.
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I want to get mad at him for no reason.
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Exactly.
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And then it continues.
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Once you get on air, you tell us what you want to cover.
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You don't have to ask permission, sir.
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If you ask for permission, I will hang up on you.
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That's the one rule is no censorship and no screening.
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Let's try again, Dave.
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I love you.
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Go ahead.
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You're free man, brother.
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Go ahead.
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It's okay.
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This is going to sound like numerology.
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Okay.
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You just asked for permission again, dude.
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Don't do it.
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Did he?
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Just go.
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He did not ask for permission again.
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He's he was giving a caveat that this is going to sound like numerology, but I was more preamble
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than anybody else.
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Yeah.
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That was, that was softening the numerology that was about to come.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is going to sound like numerology because it is.
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But if I say this is going to sound like numerology, maybe you'll think it isn't.
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Yeah.
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Maybe you'll think that I'm more of a rational actor in this whole thing.
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Yeah.
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I think just as like, yeah, all right, I don't want to do this.
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I don't want to take whatever this guy's saying seriously, but you know, whatever.
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I'll just get mad about my weird idea about anti-censorship of phone calls.
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Yeah.
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Very strange.
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Sure buddy.
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Very strange.
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So Alex takes another call and this guy wants you to not take a vaccine.
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And then thankfully Alex starts talking about his idea of this karma and the whole sort
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of thing about like, you need, the globalists need to trick you into doing things for moral
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reasons.
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Galactic law.
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Sure.
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And Mike down for this cause you might get a little confused cause it's confusing.
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Fair.
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But this is perhaps the only thing that like really fascinates me about Alex anymore.
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This idea of his bizarre ethical system.
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They can dial up the radiation and they can inject you with anything they want to.
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You got to make sure that you don't take anything that, that, that they're pushing out and don't
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feel they can spray it on you, but metaphysically they get the bad karma.
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They believe from it.
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They need you to agree.
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They can pressure you, but they need you to agree so they don't get at least the instant
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karma.
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It's how the dimensions work.
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I don't understand it all.
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They know it's a law.
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So do I.
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You make somebody do something.
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You get instant karma.
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You get interdimensional karma when you die for sins, even if you manipulated the field
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or however it works, but they need to trick us to go along with it and at least acquiesce.
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That's their satanic operation.
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They need us like in the garden to agree to it.
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Does that make sense?
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No, not, not, not one bit.
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Nope.
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So if I understand correctly, instant karma isn't after you die.
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That is like now.
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No, it's instant karma, right?
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Which is real.
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So, but I don't think that history backs that up.
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No, it does.
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No, it doesn't.
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I don't think it does.
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What about all the monsters who died in their beds?
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Oh, but you missed out all the instant karma that did happen.
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Oh, sure.
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Like they stubbed their toe?
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Exactly.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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Instant karma.
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I don't think that this works.
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I think you're going to have a really tough time explaining how this system has ever operated.
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Sure, sure.
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Human history.
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Sure.
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Especially if you go back to like times when, like feudal times.
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How did instant karma work back then?
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When life was cheap in the back ages.
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So do you remember, so there was a, I can't remember, but it was, I can't remember if
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it was Roman or if it was not, but I feel like in my head it's Roman.
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The metal bull.
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Do you remember the metal bull?
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The golden bull.
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And they would put a human being inside the bull and light the fire underneath it, making
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that person burn alive inside of the bull while the king laughed.
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I feel like you're talking about Game of Thrones.
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No, this is not Game of Thrones.
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It's real.
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Okay.
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And that guy absolutely had diarrhea that night.
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And that's what happens.
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Instant karma, Dan.
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Sure.
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It's, it's tough.
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Yeah.
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It's tough for me to wrap my head around this.
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Now Alex seems to also be saying that even if you manipulate the system and get people
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to do things of their own volition, you'll still have bad sin karma after you die.
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Of course.
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Well naturally.
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What?
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Haven't you seen the scoreboards that follow us around everywhere and sit on top of our
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left shoulder?
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Am I the only person who can see the scoreboard?
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I think so.
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Oh shit.
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Cause this makes perfect sense to me.
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You and Alex.
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If you look at this scoreboard right over here.
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I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit worried about the real world application of this moral
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system.
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Sure.
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I'm a little bit worried about it.
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For one, if you believe this moral system and then let's say you violate someone's free
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will and then there's no instant karma.
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Oh my God.
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I must not have violated their free will.
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Uh oh.
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There we go.
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This could teach you the wrong lessons.
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I wasn't instantly karmad.
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So furthermore, furthermore, here's the biggest issue.
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You know what?
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That kind of implies is that anything that you do, if God doesn't strike you down for
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doing it, it must be okay until after when you find out, well, but then it's not like
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instant karma.
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It's just bad.
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It's not that bad.
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No, no, no.
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Whatever you did to somebody they must've been fine with or else God would have given
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you instant karma.
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Of course he would.
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So the fact that you're still standing and don't have, what the fuck?
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I think my biggest issue is that they can quote pressure you.
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Yeah.
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Now what does that mean?
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Wow.
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What are the limits of pressure?
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They can pressure you into agreeing with them, but they'll still be in trouble after they
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die.
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They'll just not have instant karma if they pressure you.
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So they can just, they can just torture you endlessly until you agree.
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What if they send a robot with a gun and a little...
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Cause I would say that's not pressure.
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Is Dalek pressure?
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I think that's the question.
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I think Alex is saying that it is, but it's absolutely not.
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All right.
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If the globalists have to get you to agree to do things, Dalek's with guns is not pressure.
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That's force.
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That's pressure.
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No, it's not.
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That's just pressure.
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Now, if the gun actually kills the person, that's instant karma.
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But as long as you're just pressuring them with the threat of shooting them.
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The threat of the gun is not pressure.
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Not instant karma, that's pressure.
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That's an inappropriate level of pressure.
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Well, see, that's why I don't like when he says pressure.
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I think it is debatable, you know, the whole idea of like, did I make you do something
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cause I pointed a gun at you?
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Sure.
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Like if I make you rob a store when I'm pointing a gun at you, are you morally culpable or
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should you have gotten shot instead of...
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Actually, this is a stupid conversation.
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It is.
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Of course I forced you to do it.
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Yeah.
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Naturally.
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You got a gun on me.
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Yes.
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So the robot with a gun is not pressure, that's force.
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This moral system makes no sense, but I want Alex to talk about it for an hour.
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Honestly, I think even a robot with a swab is maybe force.
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A robot comes up to you with a swab?
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That's a little bit intimidating.
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I mean, it's weird.
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If there's no gun, it's not force.
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You could just then walk away from the robot.
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It's not Rosie the main robot from the Jetsons.
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But if it's a Dalek, you can outrun it.
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Close a door.
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No, Daleks can fly.
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Not these ones.
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Not real ones.
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Not real ones.
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Alright, well, I'll have to call Matt Smith and see what he can do about this.
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Anyway, I just want Alex to do a fucking whole special episode about this weird moral system.
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Gotta.
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And I'd love him to do like a call-in show where people can ask him questions to refine
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some of these ideas.
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Absolutely.
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I want him to have a chalkboard.
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I think it would fall apart so fast.
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I really want him to try and explain it.
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I really do, because it is bonunkers.
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So now Alex takes another call, and something happens that happens more than I would like
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to admit, and that is this caller tells Alex about a dream he had.
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Oh, of course.
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Thanks, sir.
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I'll take my call, brother.
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Yes, sir.
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Alex, I just wanted to reiterate a dream I had approximately 16 years ago.
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A dream goes like this.
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I had crossed a gigantic cavern.
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I don't know how I crossed it.
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I didn't know where to go.
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And I laid down on my back.
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I looked up to heaven, and I saw a blue spiraling light, and this blue spiraling light turned
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into like a tornado.
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And out of that blue spiraling light, a dove formed, a blue dove.
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And I felt liquid love raindrops going entirely through me.
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And a voice like a trumpet spoke to me and said, a moment is only for a moment, but a
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moment lasts forever.
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And Alex, this is America's moment to stand up.
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If this moment is missed, this moment will pass forever.
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There's a shelf life on it, and kudos for you for going to Georgia today.
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They're right.
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It's a dimensional jump point where they've liquefied the energy field for the future,
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and we have to remold things now.
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What are those words?
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They've liquefied the jump gate?
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What are you talking about?
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Of course.
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Of course.
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Fuck off.
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They liquefied the jump gate.
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I had a dream that I was skateboarding last night.
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Anyway, this guy apparently-
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I got to tell you about a dream I had 16 years ago, so I was 17 years old, and I had this
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dream-
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Look, I love you.
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You're my best friend.
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I don't want to hear your fucking dream.
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No, no, no.
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You want to hear this dream.
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It's really incredible.
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No, no.
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So I had this dream, and there was this cat, and it was climbing up a tree.
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You know like cats do.
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And then I saw this blinding light, and so did the cat.
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And you know the cat saw it because the light blinded the cat so much that it fell, and
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it was holding onto the tree just by its bare paws.
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And a deep, booming voice said, hang in there, kitty.
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And I just always hung onto that, Dan.
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Well, it's a meaningful thing.
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It's a meaningful thing.
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I like the idea that some people are going to maybe protest outside capitals and be like,
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the time is now.
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I mean, or else why would that guy who called Alex Jones' show have had that dream 16 years
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ago?
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That's ludicrous.
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I just want to reiterate a dream I had 16 years ago.
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Is the last sentence I want to hear anyone say ever.
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I have to assume Alex in that moment was like, I'm so mad I freaked out at that caller earlier.
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I should have freaked out at this guy first.
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God damn it.
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I should have saved the freak out.
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I blew it too soon.
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Anyway, we have one last clip, and it's sort of an intro to our Monday episode.
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Well, I'm on my way, and I'm not the devil, just a little bit, but I love Jesus.
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And so I'm on my way to Georgia, and I'm going to be with Roger Stone, Ollie Alexander, and
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so many others fighting the steel.
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Very exciting.
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Join us Monday on Knowledge Fight as we discuss Care of Vanity Project part three.
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The Texan went down to Georgia.
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He was looking for a stop the steel.
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So I'm excited about that kind of, I'm excited about the idea of like, I'm playing by my
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own rules.
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Like, we're going to cover this show, but I think a bottle episode where we talk about
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his time in Georgia makes more sense than us covering Wednesday at the end of this episode.
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Agreed.
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Like the caravan, perfect two-parter.
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Makes total sense.
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Absolutely.
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And let me tell you something.
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I shot on it a little bit, but that was a very well-written parody song.
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Thank you.
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That was very well-written.
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It was a good parody song.
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I will be genuine for this one moment.
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This is very nice of you to say.
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I will admit, in hindsight, there were some meter problems.
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There were a couple big ones.
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That's the problem whenever you write it out and you don't sing it, you know, perfectly
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in advance.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I might've reread it.
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Anyway, I think that this was a little bit of a preamble episode in some ways.
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I feel like this was getting ready to go to Georgia.
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And it's this, he's just got back from DC and now he's about to leave again.
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There's this weird middle place where it's like, fuck, I don't know, I'm going to hang
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out with Ali Alexander and all the Proud Boys.
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Yeah, it's a layover in the airport.
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Yeah, kind of.
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But it's his home.
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Yeah.
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He is a nomad for the 79 days of hell.
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He is a man adrift running around the country, hither and yon, trying to find attention wherever
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it might be.
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He is going to have to do that, I guess.
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Yeah.
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That's like what he's got to do.
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I will say, on the one hand, I'm glad it doesn't come off as desperate.
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I guess.
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I was being facetious.
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Anyway, we'll be back on Monday, but until then, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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You bet it is.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
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We are on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people
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doing God's work right now.
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Yeah.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm Daryl Rundis.
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We accept all callers except for censored.
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I don't know how to do this one.
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I fucked up.
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Sorry.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.