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we try to find a way to beat this rolling dead couple with all their
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friends and friends in there.
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We are the bad guys.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Dan and George.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Need money.
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Riddle her.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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Stop it.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a system caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight dot com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question.
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What up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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Well, actually, interestingly, my bright spot for today is I was sitting around.
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I was looking at Twitter, which I'm not, I don't do a whole lot of.
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Sure.
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I don't engage much with social media.
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Very smart.
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I barely like any posts.
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Very smart.
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I don't retweet much.
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I don't post materials on Twitter much.
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Although maybe we should.
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I don't know.
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Almost certainly.
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But I got a rare like I was given out today.
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You gave out a like today?
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A rare Twitter like.
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A like?
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Yes.
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Oh shit.
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I've never gotten a like from you.
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Probably not.
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Uh-uh.
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Our friend Robert Evans tweeted something about the band Five Iron Frenzy.
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Oh yes.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I saw that.
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Which is a Christian style band that I'm a particular fan of.
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I saw that.
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God damn it, Dan.
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It reminded me that actually recently I'd been going back through listening to a little
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bit of Five Iron Frenzy and I do think a lot of it holds up.
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But also.
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A lot of people do.
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I saw that.
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And they are all wrong.
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I saw them live when I was, ooh, very young.
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Quite young.
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Quite young.
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One of my first concerts.
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Too young?
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No, I was the appropriate age.
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All right.
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But I saw them.
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They were great.
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They were all wearing Star Trek uniforms.
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Sure, sure.
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Holds up.
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They were having a goofy-ass ska time is what you would call it.
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There was one member of the group called, whose name is Jeff the Girl.
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And I found out recently that she actually has a new group or a new work group.
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I don't know.
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I don't know how I stumbled upon this.
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Sure.
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I think it was through listening to Five Iron Frenzy.
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Sure, yeah, yeah.
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Anyway, I think it's called The Fast Feeling, is the name of it.
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Okay.
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It's got a nice synth pop kind of thing.
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All right.
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It's very nice.
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A little Church's kind of style.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A little purity ring.
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Okay.
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Yeah, purity ring's got a little.
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Maybe a little less ambient is some of that stuff.
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But yeah, I enjoy it quite a bit.
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So I'm glad that she has gone on to some other interesting projects.
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Yeah, that is very nice.
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I'm glad that we have help getting the word out about Five Iron Frenzy.
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Again, I really disagree.
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Next up, OC Supertones, we're going to reclaim it.
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No!
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I do like the idea that there's fun and then there's ska fun.
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And that's a whole different brand.
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I also like the idea that my tastes from when I was 14, I'm going to be vindicated.
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I will be vindicated.
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Someone mocked me my whole life, but I will end up being shown to be correct.
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Well, I think people who love disco have been proven to be correct.
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Absolutely.
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Over time, yeah.
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Yes!
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Absolutely.
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Go listen to some Giorgio Moroder.
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Go listen to some of that Italo disco.
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Yeah, why not?
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is my partner has been watching How to Get Away with Murder, and my bright
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spot is that she's almost done because I find it unwatchable.
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Unfortunately, once she's done, she'll know how to get away with a murder.
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You know what?
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You're done.
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You don't learn how to get away with a murder.
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This is a big issue I have with it.
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All of the things that they do, they are totally going to get caught for that murder.
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Terrible.
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I mean, the guy's, you know, rope.
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It's not a perfect murder either.
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That's fair.
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Well, I'm glad that that's almost over, but I'm sure it'll be replaced by another fun
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show.
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Naturally.
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Look forward to that.
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I'm hoping to trick her into Fringe.
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Let's watch that.
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Yeah, that'd be good.
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Yeah.
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That's what I'd love to learn about.
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According to Alex.
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So, Jordan, we've got an interesting episode to go over today.
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We got a bit of catch up on Alex to do.
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Sure, sure.
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We're going over May 26th through 28th.
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That is Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday of this week, if you're nasty.
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Very slow news days.
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All within the year of 2020, when I'd like to remind you that I'm Dan, and this is 2020.
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God damn it, Dan.
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I'm going to say that I'm not in the mood for bullshit today.
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I'm not going to be suffering Alex's shit with a lot of patience.
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No.
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We're going to cover a lot of the current events that are going on, but shockingly,
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a number of things are completely ignored by Alex, and some things are reported in exactly
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the way you would expect them to be.
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Naturally.
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We'll discuss some of those dynamics in as best I can consider a productive way.
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Right, right, right, right.
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But there's some other interesting stuff that goes on, and I'll spoil this.
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I think Alex admitted to a felony on air.
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Sure, why not?
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Maybe someone could investigate that, if they're interested.
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If they're bored.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We'll get to that by the end of this episode, but before we get down to business on that,
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Jordan, we had to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up
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and are supporting the show, and do a disappointing Seltzer report.
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Oh, no.
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First, Ja Rule, one word.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Ja Rule.
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Thank you, Ja Rule.
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Ah.
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Murder.
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No.
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Next, Cory.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Cory.
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Great.
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Murder.
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No.
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Next, Sean S. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Sean.
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Murder.
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No.
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Next, Megan H. Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Megan.
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Next, Andrew W. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Andrew W.
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Next, Cassandra S. Thank you so much.
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You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you Cassandra. Thank you next mole children charities LLC
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Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you mole children charities LLC
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Yes, thank you very much. And then finally like to say thank you to somebody who donated on elevated level
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We appreciate that very much. So Dorian, thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk crikey, mate
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That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson
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All right, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin
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Why are you pimps so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much Dorian
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Yes, thank you very much Dorian and congratulations on what 200th birthday
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I always like to be really really
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Patantic yeah, yeah, people say it's the portrait of Dorian. No, it's a picture.
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James Joyce wrote the portrait of the young artist. That's the confusion that most people have I believe yeah
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But if you're out there listening and you're thinking hey
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I enjoy this podcast and their literary
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references and I'd like to support what they do you can do that by going to our website knowledgefight.com clicking the button says
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Support the show we would appreciate it or if you feel so inclined, please
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Take that generous spirit and apply it to a local charity in your area or in
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Some sort of a field that you feel passionate about to help people who are in need. Yeah
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So Jordan, like I said disappointing seltzer report. We're just gonna get it out of the way real quick. I
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Got nothing I
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Got nothing. You didn't you didn't try any seltzers. I I'm at night. I'm stuck at 92
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Yeah, I mean, it's still good progress, but I've got nothing to report. No, no, no
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I have I don't I can like nothing good to report or just nothing to report
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Can I be honest with why no, okay. I'll lie
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Here's what's going on. Sure. I
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Every time I go to the store, I try and stock up on seltzer
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Exactly. Yes, so I'll go to the store and I'll end up getting you know
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Like a bunch of the loose bottles of seltzer and then they're in my fridge and I periodically throughout a long period of time
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I can grab one and that allows me to keep adding to the list without having to go to the store over and over again
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Like it probably sounds like I am right, right?
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It sounds like you go buy a seltzer and then come back home and like nibble on it like a squirrel and then go out
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And buy another one. Hey make some fan art
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Squirrel down on a seltzer
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Yeah, and so what ends up happening is I have a number of them in the fridge
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I have been trying to find this apartment and so I've been really busy with that and going to
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Like a couple of viewings and I haven't really stocked up on seltzer in a bit
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Sure, and so the only things that are left in my fridge are all coconut flavor
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You're dreading the coconut I've been just drinking like ones that I've already had before that I had to buy a six-pack
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Oh, yeah, there's like a couple that are in my pantry that I've just been like I'll just put these in the fridge for later
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So I don't drink that coconut garbage
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So I think what's gonna end up having to happen because I will never drink those of my own volition now
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I can't imagine them being good. They've got to be terrible. Yeah for our next Q&A episode
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I think we should try well both the Pantheon of coconuts. Gotcha. Gotcha. You'll you'll
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Misery loves company. So yeah, I think that'll somehow make it a little bit more taller. I like it
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So that's the seltzer report nothing to report but maybe something in the future. No
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Seltzers indeed. So Jordan today, like I said 26th to 28th, right?
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This is going to be a bumpy ish ride at points
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But in in addition to me being sick of Alex's bullshit and not I'm you know
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Not not that I generally pull punches I pull on a punches today
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but in addition
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I feel like I would like to
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Offer a little bit of a window into the creation of one of these episodes and so along the way
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I'm going to give a couple of little notes that can help people understand exactly like the process that goes into
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Some of this sure. I know I've gotten a lot of questions about that, right?
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And it's really difficult for me to answer the question without doing some of it illustratively
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Through the show itself. So there will be a few notes along the way and it sounds a little navel-gaze
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If you don't have those, you know, you get back and you're like my process
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Right, right, you know, I don't want to pretend I'm like James Lipton. Yeah interview subjects
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Exactly. So this first clip is where we start on the 26th
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And it's Alex launching into a bit of a new narrative
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Surrounding coronavirus statistics. We've seen the meme that oh, yeah
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Great white shark attacked a lady and they called it covered 19
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That meme is a joke, but where it comes from isn't this is just in the news today
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At national file.com. We're gonna post this article on in full words calm gunshot victims
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Count as coronavirus deaths in Washington State. This is some real original reporting
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Freedom Foundation reports today
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Freedom Information Act request and they admitted
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gunshot wounds car wrecks
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Suicides and then they test you with the Bill of Melinda Gates you in
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one testing kit that the FDA shut down for fraud and
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The kit finds almost everyone is positive if you've had the flu or a corona virus on average the last decade
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So the glimpse that I want to give in to people listening is that clip was less than a minute of Alex and
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What I'm about to explain to you took over two hours two and a half hours ish to break down right now
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We can ignore all the stuff at the end
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That's just the bullshit about that lab that we talked about already the if you've had a cold in the last decade all that's pretty
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Standard stuff but the new piece that Alex is bringing to this is this report that was put out by the Freedom Foundation
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Which is a name that if you hear it, you should be like, I don't know about this
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No, look every organization that we talk about with
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National freedom patriotism all of those very trustworthy that you can tell they're focused on freedom
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Inocuous names like that are a real like hmm. You should raise an eyebrow
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Yeah
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So Alex absolutely has not read this report past the headline because he's just making stuff up about the Freedom of Information
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Requests and stuff like that. He has no idea what this actual report was saying in the report
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They were looking at Washington State death figures and trying to parse out how many of these deaths were directly caused
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definitively by the virus and which might have been people who have the virus but unrelated to that have done
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Mm-hmm outside the hands of conspiracy theorists
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This isn't a bad question to be asking since the more precise data
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We have the better we can respond to the situation in front of us
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However in the hands of conspiracy theorists audiences will just hear headlines and made up conclusions
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The Freedom Foundation's first piece about this came out on May 18th
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And it hypothesized that the state's quote reported COVID-19 death total is inflated by as much as 13%
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This number was taken from Washington's Department of Health data that showed 13% of deaths which quote
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Involve persons who had previously tested positive for COVID-19
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But did not have the virus listed anywhere on their death certificate as either causing or contributing to the death. Sure
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This is not definitive
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But if you read the report the Freedom Foundation clearly has an angle on this. Oh, no
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So such as to imply that most of these aren't sure coronavirus deaths sure
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But even so if you read it, it's not as it's not nearly as extreme as Alex's take on it
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Well, I mean even if it is actually 13 earth. Yeah 13% then that's great. There's
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87,000 dead due to coronavirus, you know, sure
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I don't want to I don't want to see that ground but I agree with the point that you're making is a
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What yeah fine so on May 21st
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They reported an update on the story which included reporting on a telephonic press briefing that the Department of Health had held
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The DOH statistics manager Katie Hutchinson was quoted as saying quote over the course of the outbreak
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We've been monitoring and recording the causes of death as we know it
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We currently do have some deaths that are being reported that are clearly from other causes
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We have about five deaths less than five deaths that we know of that are related to obvious other causes in this case
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They are from gunshot wounds
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This is the image that people like Alex will latch on to and make their big story
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But I have some very serious concerns that this report and the Freedom Foundation is not giving the full picture about this press conference
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Luckily, I got my hands on the audio of this press conference and I could play for you some of the parts that are conspicuous
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And their absence from the original reporting which naturally means that by the time this is getting re-reported by Alex
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The story is absolutely no connection to the primary source material. So this first clip here is dr
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Katie Hutchinson explaining that there are some non-covid deaths that get listed
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So when we talk about near real-time information
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Similar to our case identification. We have been releasing death information within one day of being
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aware or notified of the death
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So particularly for deaths releasing this preliminary data
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This rapidly is really not our normal practice our normal process release releasing final death data
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Which I'll explain in a few minutes takes up to 18 months from start to finish
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We also found that in the early stages of the outbreak
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medical certifiers
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were really not aware if their patients had COVID-19 and did not have a clear understanding of how to complete the death certificate
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accurately for COVID deaths
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So because of this we implemented some processes to connect data from multiple data systems
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To try to identify deaths to COVID cases as early as possible and to work with certifiers and local health jurisdictions
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Understand which cases were dying
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Over the course of the outbreak
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We have been very aware of a small number of deaths being reported on our dashboard that end up not being due to COVID
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I will describe these deaths more specifically in a few minutes
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And we will be removing them over time from our death count. This is part of our regular process for reporting
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preliminary information
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We know that the quality of information
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naturally improves over time
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And that will allow us to improve our death count
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Ultimately
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As I will describe in a little bit
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We suspect that we are actually more likely to be under counting deaths than over counting them
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Which will become more apparent once we walk through the process for how we identify death. So here Hutchinson is saying
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That this kind of fast turnaround in reporting is not business as usual for the Washington Department of Health and naturally the process wouldn't be
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Without some hiccups, but in order to create the kind of information that people need you have to do
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Augmented process. Right, we don't have time to maintain our high level of quality standards
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So in order to get the best possible estimate out as soon as possible
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That happens. These firmly definitive
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sort of death
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certifications can take up to a year and by that point you are out of the window where this
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Information would be actionable for us right now
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and so there are going to be little things that come up along the way and the these few cases that she's talking about are
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Included in what you would call those hiccups. Yeah, he or she talks about that a little bit more
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We currently do have some deaths that are being reported that are clearly from other causes
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we have about
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Five deaths, less than five deaths that we know of that are related to obvious other causes
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Scandal. In this case they are from gunshots
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We don't have any deaths currently being reported that is to anybody who died in a car crash or any other sort of accident
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So there were a few cases that are something like a gunshot death was labeled as COVID-19
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But as the you know process refines itself those cases will be removed from the tallies
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This is the only thing that people like Alex will hang their hats on because it's what they need to create the narrative that
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all deaths are probably a fraud as opposed to this being part of a system working far outside its normal operations
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We're serving the needs of the moment can often lead to a few mistakes
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Earlier, we heard Hutchinson say that she was convinced that the state's numbers were actually under counting actual COVID-19 deaths
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And she says more about why in this next clip. This is a particular issue
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Early on in the outbreak where a death certificate might have something like pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome
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and
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the certifier was
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Unaware that the person could have been COVID positive
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So it's unclear we have we currently in our system
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We have about 3,000 death certificates that indicate symptoms similar to COVID-19
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Unclear whether any of these could be COVID-19 related. So that's the part of the press conference
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That's conspicuous in its absence from the Freedom Foundation's coverage
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Yeah, which seems weird if you have an interest in the less than five deaths that were miscategorized as COVID
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Shouldn't you be way more worried about the possibility that there are 3,000 more deaths that aren't listed as the virus
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But totally could be why those are Bill Gates scams schemes
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Sure
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Those were the preliminary before they had the UN test the state of Washington only has an official death count of about
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1,000 so if any considerable portion of those 3,000 death certificates are COVID-19 that could seriously affect their numbers
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Yeah, that could be
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Like on the low end twice as big. Mm-hmm
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Yeah
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I
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Refuse to believe any sincere person could hear this press conference and come away with the impression that the less than five deaths is
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The headline unless they were cherry-picking and their whole goal is to provide cover for shameless hacks
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like Alex Jones to yell about how the whole virus is a hoax and everyone needs to go back to work and
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Thus it should come as no surprise to literally anyone that the Freedom Foundation is a free market think-tank
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That's almost entirely bankrolled by conservative billionaires
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They're big recipients of money from the coax the from the Donors Trust as well as from the Bradley Foundation and the scapes
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They're little more than an anti-union anti-worker agitating policy house
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Which is paid by the super-rich to argue against them having to pay their workers more
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Yeah, for instance in 2014
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They released a policy paper arguing against mandatory sick sick leave rules for employees that same year
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The Guardian released a fundraising letter that the foundation put out that said quote
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The Freedom Foundation has a proven plan for bankrupting and defeating government unions through education litigation
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Legislation and community activation. They've also been militantly opposed to raises in the minimum wage laws
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The Freedom Foundation is exactly the sort of place you would expect to hear this kind of shit from
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They're bought and paid for mouthpieces of the people who aren't worried about the virus except in terms of it
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You know keeping people home from work
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I know I don't need to spell this out for you
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But to make things perfectly clear these people are paid by billionaires to make everyone else's lives worse
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They write things like this COVID-19 Washington story not because they're uncovering some truth about these less than five deaths
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But because it helps shift the conversation and it gives cover for politicians to put workers at risk
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Yep
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The dead giveaway is their funding but also the fact that their article doesn't mention the 3,000 death certificates that aren't listed as COVID
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But might be cases
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The omission of that information is proof positive that they took what they wanted from the press conference and ignored the part that was
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Inconvenient for them which is fraudulent
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Yep
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They produce this seemingly professional piece with a snazzy headline and then Alex and Rush and Hannity can report on the headline and that's all
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Anyone will hear they won't go find the actual press conference and listen to it
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It's hard to read there might be as many as four pages there
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Yeah, these people who are producing this report know they're lying if they listen to the thing
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Yeah, of course and their entire job is to create lies for propagandists to repeat and they do it because their lies are profitable to
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The right-wing billionaires who pay them. I think billionaires are great first off
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I my stated position has always been I want a small number of people to have as much money as possible
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That's me through and through. Yeah, so that was really frustrating
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But I'm glad that I understand it. Yeah
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Yeah, so in this next clip Alex talks about the New York Times. I know your favorite
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I love love unbelievable. Here's another one New York Times US deaths near 100,000 just last Friday at incalculable loss
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sixth name on New York Times list you just six in
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Of coronavirus victims a 27 year old man who was murdered
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Murdered when you get stabbed when you get shot you are a
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A COVID-19 death ladies and gentlemen, this is all happening. So this is Alex's defense and sort of support for his other
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You know prong of the narrative which is this Washington right five deaths or whatever narrative, right?
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I suspect that Alex is taking this story from the Washington Times since that's a favorite source of his and they seem to have an
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Article about this another great publication. Sure. Yeah, Alex seemed to miss this part of that article though quote. Mr
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Haynes name was later omitted from the newspapers dramatic front page list of nearly 1,000 names under the banner headline quote US deaths near
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100,000 and incalculable loss
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The New York Times issued a correction and they fixed this before the late edition went out
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These sorts of mistakes and oversights can happen and the Times did what they're supposed to in that situation
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They owned up to the error made a statement to correct their mistake and published an updated version
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Something tells me that this was a solitary error in their list because I have a hunch that
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Conspiracy sleuths probably googled every one of those names to see if they could find things to yell about and they got this one
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Yeah, that's right. Anyway, the point here is that the Times made a mistake and they
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Responded appropriately. I'll take Alex seriously about this complaint about other media outlets making errors
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Once he issues a correction properly
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Maybe about the whole FDA closing down the lab story that he mentioned earlier
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How there's that he can make a correction about that if you wanted to New York Times
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Ninety-nine thousand nine hundred and ninety-nine deaths a calculable loss good work guys. Yeah really splitting hairs
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Yeah, you got it. And thank God you are. Yeah. No, I mean, where would we be?
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See ya it's it's pretty lame Alex might need to issue a correction about this too. This is how dumb they think you are
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how suggestible and
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That's why
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80% in the United States of COVID-19 deaths are over the age
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Of 85 looking up for yourself. It's the same thing in Europe. It's the same thing everywhere because it's a fraud you die
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when you've got all these other diseases and kidney failure and liver failure and lung cancer and bone cancer and brain cancer and they come
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In and stick a test in you that's designed to be a fraud when you croak and they say it's COVID
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So you can scare the living daylights out of the public and I know all of you know this
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So what Alex is saying there is not true. He's just pulling things completely out of his ass. Yeah, that's that's not surprising
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So from the CDC's provisional data, we can take a look at demographic breakdowns of COVID-19 related deaths and from that data
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You can see clearly that Alex is wrong the cohort of people who are over 85 have represented
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20,179 deaths as of May 16th. That's 80% of a hundred thousand, right? That's right
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Yeah
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The total at that point with their data set was sixty two thousand six hundred and thirteen deaths which would make the population over 85
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represent thirty two point three percent of the COVID-19 deaths
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Which is just shy of the 80% figure. Now there's that. That age group is the highest overall individual group
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but the 75 to 84 age group represents 27 percent of the deaths and
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65 to 74 is 21 percent of the deaths the numbers drop off from there
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But the population between the ages of 55 and 64 is still 12 percent. Yeah, like it's still something. Yeah, this touches everybody
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Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, my point here is that Alex is making up numbers because the actual numbers are contradictory to his narratives
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Also if Alex is to be believed there's a very important question that he needs to answer
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He's alleging that these evil globalists are just taking everyone who's over 85 who gets sick and dies of natural causes
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And they call it COVID-19 to scare everyone. This seems to be him leaning closer to the David Icke
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There is no virus
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But leaving that aside he now has to explain why there are so many more people dying this year than usual
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If it was just the thing where they're just classifying natural cause deaths as COVID-19 to scare you then you'd expect the same number of
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Deaths as other years that just all be COVID deaths and that is not what you're seeing
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The CDC put out a report on May 15th, which calculated that just in New York City from March 11th to May 2nd
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There were twenty four thousand one hundred seventy two excess deaths compared to long-term averages for that period of time
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It's really hard to get a clear picture of things right now
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But some of the indications are looking like when the dust settles we'll be looking at larger numbers than we're seeing now
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But even without nailing out precise specifics, I would like Alex to explain those excess deaths
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I will tell you right now. We're missing the real plague here. And that is giant hornets are taking over the Northwest
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Well, we did I did for you know, we haven't heard about those hornets giant hornets
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That's why New York is gone decimated. So that's one theory or you know
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I but basically I want Alex to plant a flag somewhere explain that is it 5g you want to you want to get married to?
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Go for it. Is it vampirism? Do you want to go hang out with Carrie cast? There are vampires. Is it alien AI?
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What are you gonna do man? What are you gonna do choose something pick a lane and fucking stick with it?
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Cuz you need to explain that if your whole thing is gonna be this game. I'm sick of it. Yeah sick of it
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anyway
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Alex believes that the kovat situation all of this all the masks and you know
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Business closed what have you it's to make us not stand up
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The more we submit the more they squeeze to see what they can get out of you because they're trying to erase
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thousands of years of
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progress of humans standing up and demanding liberty and paying for it in blood and in treasure and in time and in
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everything else
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So that's
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what we face as a culture and
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As a society spoiler alert by the end of this episode Alex will not be so thrilled about some people standing up
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I was gonna say Dan
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Do you think that there will be a difference in how important standing up is to him very shortly? I don't know
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Let's see. So look man Alex's is
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Deep in the weeds of the bullshit about you know, all the coronaviruses are fake all the deaths and everything
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Sure, but he has he has a couple passions in life one is
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Selling his products camping. I don't know if he likes to camp. He does like to run around shirtless in the woods. That's true
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I don't think it's part of it. Okay
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No, his other passion is telling obviously not true stories of social interaction. Yes
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Yeah, he always makes time to do that every grocery store I go in
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Every
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Gas station I go into every restaurant I go into now that they reopen partially
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When the waitress walks up I say you can take that mask off
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Well, we were ordered to and I say but you know, they're counting every death car wrecks gunshot wounds people that had cancer as covered 19
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They're like, yeah, I heard that and most people are actually somewhat informed
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And most people I talked to actually already know all this then I say to him I say then you need to tell other people
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you need to
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Let them know it's a fraud and this female waitress was sitting there yesterday and she said you're right
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I need to and her and the manager and the other person took their mask off
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And so this is all just a giant hoax. I am Spartacus
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Sat there and exchanged phone numbers with her and said I'm gonna send you
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And I wasn't hitting on her even though she was attractive
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That
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Needed that needed to be in there just in case my wife's listening just in case you were wondering if I'm an alpha male
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Just so you know, and I'm also shiver less shiver shival wrists. Yeah, fuck this. Yep. Oh pretty lame
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Who is talking to him that isn't carrying an automatic rifle?
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Right like this. I mean these these interactions didn't happen
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Go to this restaurant
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I'm talking to the waitress of a cuter have to wear that mask gets all the fraud
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Oh, I know. Well, you gotta tell people then you know what you're right. You're right
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You're a fucking waitress working it's a restaurant in Austin, you're not aware who Alex Jones is
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You don't know from his behavior that he's a he's a wacky dude. I'll tell you there's one man who just on site
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I think I want to exchange numbers with this can
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Look guy whose neck is bulging. I can't stop yelling everything. Hey, take your mask off during this pandemic
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Let's share numbers. Yeah, you sound trustworthy. Yeah. Yeah, so Alex has another narrative that's going to take over for a bit of
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this episode and a bit of the next and that is a
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Continuation of the story we heard on our last episode that we covered of Alex's which is about that guy
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there was that 20 year old in Detroit who beat up an elderly man in a
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a
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Nursing home, right? Right, right and there's an unfortunate wrinkle to that story and that is that that kid
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That man who's 20? Yeah, he had tested positive for kovat 19, of course
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of course god damn and so now Alex is gonna take that story and he's going to build on it and
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Try and create a narrative that the Democrats are trying to ship young people
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Yeah with kovat 19 into nursing homes in order to kill off the old people
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And so that's why in New York in Michigan in California in Oregon in
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Washington State in Minnesota all the Democrat and rat-nest, New Jersey
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They're on record shipping young people into nursing homes and saying nursing homes are work COVID
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patients go
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Meanwhile, the hospitals are empty and the heroes at the nursing homes
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One of the most abusive industries on record some are good some are bad
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I know folks that have worked at nursing homes physical therapists that are wonderful angels
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there are plenty of evil people in there as everybody knows exchange numbers with them and
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So, oh if the whole nursing home gets kovat 19, that's third. That's 13,000 smackers per person and then
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When a bunch of the Alzheimer's patients that are 90 years old on average when they get that COVID
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They said the UN set the standards snake a tube down their throat intubate them
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39,000 sweets ease
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But you got to put the poison in so
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It's hard to get people already nursing home sick
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So you find people in the community that have it you get them tested and then you ship that
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Weapon like like the British troops given the Native Americans smallpox blankets that had smallpox on it
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You just give it to them and then you get all that
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So according to Alex this young man
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This 20 year old guy in Detroit, you know, he was in the hospital because he tested positive for coronavirus
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And that's not really true. Sure
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This is meant to imply that he tested positive and then he was not there intentionally to infect elderly people
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So the doctors could scam Medicare or something, but also there's no virus
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Mm-hmm. Yeah, Alex walks a real weird line with that. I think we'll get into that here in a little bit, but
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Obviously Westwood nursing center cannot release this this guy's medical information
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But they did comment that he was a temporary patient there to quote undergo rehabilitation and recovery
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There aren't more specifics
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But if you combine that with what his family has said like that
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He has the mental state of a 12 year old and suffers from mental illness
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It seems very likely that he was there for rehabilitation on one of those grounds. Yeah, according to Fox to Detroit
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He'd been in a mental health facility in Ann Arbor
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But was diagnosed with kovat 19 and was quote supposed to be taken to another facility to be quarantined
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From all indications that I can see here. What happened is likely a complete breakdown of responsibilities
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It seems entirely possible
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There was a failure in communicating between facilities about his diagnosis and further his father is said quote had I known he was there
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I would have never consented to it
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Anyway, the point here is that Alex can in no way back up his claim that they're sending young people with kovat 19 to nursing
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Homes to intentionally infect the elderly so someone could make money off Medicare
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That's an example of him taking some of the details of this story twisting them and writing them into a grander plot that he's pretending
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He's uncovered all over the place. It's all these evil Democrats. It's just his perverse imagination
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Do you know what it reveals though?
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Is how much or how little these people view the value of a human life like really?
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40 grand is what you're willing to kill people for right 40 grand
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Uh-huh, like if you believe if that makes sense to you, that's because you believe that's a fair
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Value well, you know and how much do you think?
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People are like making from insurance and Medicare Medicaid for other procedures that are just have would happen normally
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Yeah, you know like how much do you like?
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It's not like this is that much more than a lot of other procedures. I need an extra
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Grand it's it's yeah, it's it's ludicrous to imagine that this is and it's going to get even worse once we realize
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Something down the line. Yeah, that would preclude them from behaving this way
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But you know
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Alex's Alex is really swinging for it. I mean this is just really dangerous stuff because they're there's a
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You know I don't know what the odds are but there's a possibility those people in Alex's audience have lost family members
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Maybe even have some family members who are in nursing homes that kind of thing and what you're doing is
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Create you're setting a fire
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You're saying that your political enemies are literally family using people as bio weapons to kill your family
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Exactly in nursing homes for 30 grand or whatever also. He does still support Syria and Assad
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Yeah, he hasn't talked about it in a while
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But there so in this next clip Alex gets kind of mad that people are criticizing Trump about chloroquine
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Getting people killed perhaps yeah, we don't need to go over that too much, but I keep this clip in because
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He freaks out like a little baby about it
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And then he tries to like focus on the stories about how there's all these fake diagnoses of code at 19
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Sure, and I think you'll very quickly realize that he's not prepared to even do his own show and they're calling for my arrest
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All over the news and everybody else's arrest and they're SWAT teaming with guys with mp5
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Doctors facilities when they're giving people vitamin C you piece of filth
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They're like how dare the president tell people hydroxychloroquine and zinc and z-pack
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It's doctors all over the world hundred percent success rate on record
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Shut up, Trump. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up
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Shut up. Shut up fake fake fake fake fake fake
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We're going to put
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An engineered cold virus out that we own
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And we're gonna kill a bunch of people and a bunch of other people that didn't die that died in car wrecks and gunshot wounds
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and stabbings and cancer
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and heart attacks
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and dog bites
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We're gonna count them all it's kovat 19, baby
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Look at these articles
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gunshot victims count as
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coronavirus deaths in Washington State
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Sixth name on New York Times list of coronavirus victims is 27 year old man who was murdered
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Then you go deeper in the whole list. It's just full of people but
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They'll put you on the list
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If you got died in a car wreck
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Or a gunshot wound and here's another one gunshot victims count as coronavirus death in Washington State
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This is just today's news so you can kind of see there at the end of how Alex operates
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Obviously the thing he planned to rant about today is the whole idea of gunshot victims being counted as kovat deaths and that's all good
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And well, but he doesn't do any prep work and it's painfully obvious there
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I have no doubt that he shows up to the studio ten minutes before the show
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Sees a couple of headlines and is like I can work with that
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He has a narrative built up in his head and where he has all the proof
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But when the rubber meets the road, this is what you have
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You have two headlines complete fabrications about both and then reading the same headline a second time without realizing it's the same story
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Alex just has absolutely zero familiarity with the topics. He's covering past the surface headline level and it shows
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It's just a bummer
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I would say that he should retire so some hungry competent conspiracy weirdo could come in and take his place in the pecking order
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But I don't think there's anyone to do that. He still should probably retire though because this is getting depressing to watch
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Yeah, I'm I'm filled with a lot of a lot of rage
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It's very difficult for me to like whenever it gets this bad. I just yeah, I'm just not loud
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I'm just shaking and that's good because we have to
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Keep it like that. Yes, it's good. Yeah, I did notice a little bit of what I would describe as a coiled spring
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I don't understand what you're talking about
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Sorry for what reason you're gonna get hypertension now this episode come on
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So if I get a heart attack, then I'll be counted as a COVID. Can I get the 30 grand? Absolutely. Yes
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So Jordan, if you think you're mad, you're not mad
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You're not mad not compared to Alex in this next clip
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Also partially that's because he thinks about Brian Stelter fair the default thing
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You don't do like don't throw a New York newborn baby in the deep end of the pool. I
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should I should clarify he's talking about
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Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer here and what she has done of course related to the virus
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And she's got the baby throwing it right in the pool. It's like don't go in a fireworks factory with a flamethrower lit
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Or don't pour gasoline on yourself and light it
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Don't jump in the backyard with 15 starving pit bulls. Don't go to the local zoo and climb in the bingle tiger cage
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I mean don't take a bottle of cyanide
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Don't chop your dick off. Excuse me, but this is ridiculous
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the default position is keep
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infectious patients away from the nursing homes and Democrats in unison and
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Globalists from Europe to Australia to the United States
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I want to give you a little warning. This is a long clip
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But it's because Alex is fake anger Alex is way over the top with this. Yeah, this is bad
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Yeah, and it goes a lot of places to
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See what they can get away with you're like, well, maybe they're just stupid
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That's why they run their mouth about killing old people all day. They don't want to just kill those old people
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And I'm not gonna sit here and take it
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So I've been pissed
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I've been really pissed behind the scenes because I hadn't been really telling you what I really find
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These people are murdering us
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And I tell you we sit there and put up with them killing these unborn babies and these little kids and keeping these babies alive
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Checking their organs and killing all these old people
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We deserve whatever the hell we get and let me tell you we're gonna get it
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But man, I look at the eyes of that governor that woman's the most evil-looking person she's more evil-looking than Hillary Clinton
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people say
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If you have any discernment you see the evil
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Little simple go watch Jones see and Brian Stelter that looks evil. Are you joking pull up the governor of Michigan?
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Just a random photo of her on screen with those crazy eyes. You watch her you think oh, that's just a crazy photo every video
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Look at her my god and then it's Stelter
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These are bad people
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That's a murderer right there
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That is a murderer
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That is a disgusting
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Look out he's a common
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Wow
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Man, calm it down Pachino. What are we doing up your spine?
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I don't know what does or you don't have any discernment who are the rings?
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Sting the goblin cleaver that sucker like sting the goblin cleaver when goblins are around. Well, let me tell you
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You can take one look at those people and lock up your kids folks lock up your doors
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And grab your ass with both hands because they're coming for you. I got to bring Bilbo into this
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God helps
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That's not human folks. That's a demon
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And and and and I just get upset around these people. Oh look at that. Look at that demon boy. Oh
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Boy, that's bad news right there. Oh
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Look at that face
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That is a predator that wants to do one thing and she or even when it came out two months ago
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Don't put sick people in the nursing homes. She said we're sending the COVID patients to the nursing homes
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So I was trolling a little bit there. I wanted everyone to feel my pain
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It's like cuz I think sometimes I do Alex a solid by totally playing like these
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Clips where he's just like oh look at that face. Do you know what the problem is a show?
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It's so similar to to the way that
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Not not on purpose
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But the way that the media kind of packages what Trump says because if you print actually his long stupid rants here like wait
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We're we've run out of inches. Yeah, like how we you know, we make fun of some of these ads that he does
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But if I point it out every time yeah, like it's like well that'll end up hurting the quality of ours. Yeah
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Never talk about it
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Every now and again, I gotta throw in something like this. You'd be like, holy shit
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This is what the show is like what a moron
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So anyway, Alex has the story about Gretchen Widmer a little bit wrong
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The Michigan governor didn't demand that COVID-19 cases be sent to nursing homes
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However, she did sign an executive order in April which quote
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Mandated that nursing homes with less than 80% capacity create dedicated isolation units for COVID-19 affected residents
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An MLive article about this from April 15th makes it clear that what the order was seeking to achieve was to create safe
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Separate areas in long-term care facilities where it was possible
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And in cases where it was not possible to transfer patients who tested positive to quote a facility in the region that has one
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Which would be a dedicated unit. These facilities where people who tested positive for COVID-19 would be sent to
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Would be quote regional hubs that will only provide care to residents who have tested positive for the disease
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Alex is trying to twist that wording into being that they were you know to become regional hubs for anyone who tested positive
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Which isn't the case. This was about nursing homes being required if possible to set up separate areas to treat residents
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Who tested positive who still need specialized care
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Governor, give a good idea. Alex, she looks crazy. Who's gonna win?
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It's an idea and an approach to a challenging problem
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I've read the executive order and if their goal was to actively spread the virus in the homes they put some roadblocks up
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For one, it makes it so, the executive order, it makes it so any employee at the any long-term care facility
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Who as much as displays quote one or more of the principal symptoms for COVID-19 should remain in their homes or places of residence
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And that their employers shall not discharge discipline or otherwise retaliate against them for doing so
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Seems like you wouldn't offer that to workers if you're just looking to spread a virus like it would be easy to leave that paragraph out
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Nah, I think they I think they definitely use that as a smokescreen
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It's a load of bullshit
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All that's going on here is that Governor Whitmer is someone who Trump has targeted in the past so she's one of the big villains for Alex right now
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I don't know what I think entirely of the executive order because fully evaluating it is far beyond my pay grade
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But what I can say is that nothing in it is about sending infected persons to nursing homes to intentionally infect people
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That's just some bullshit that Alex has dreamed up to make himself mad
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If I had to guess I would assume that Alex just recently read a headline about how Whitmer amended the order to give facilities more flexibility
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Giving, getting rid of the 80% capacity rule to allow places to be like well we can set up a unit, well we can't
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Okay, that's fine, you can set one up here
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I think he probably just heard about that and just got mad about it
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Of course
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And I think he's just looking for ways to escalate
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Something
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Yeah
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These people
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These fucking guys
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This continues
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Alex is super mad
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Dems are murdering us
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They're sending human time bombs into nursing homes
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Sure
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And this is where I want to give the second glimpse into the creation of these episodes
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At this point, you know, we had that whole thing at the beginning about the Freedom Foundation and Alex is freaking out a bit here
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But until I heard this next clip, I wasn't sure if we had an episode
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After I heard this clip, I was like alright, I think we got something we can work with here
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You know some thug gang banger goes and kills an old person in their house for a thousand dollars of jewelry
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And man we send their ass to the death chamber
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We send them to the lethal injection and we should
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But boy when the government and those corporations and the democrats roll up their sleeves and go to town on some old people
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To make fifty something thousand dollars off of everyone they murder, murder, murder, murder, murder, murder
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Murder
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Red rum, red rum, red rum, they're murdering us and we just sit here and we put up with it
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Now get your ass
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What's wrong with people?
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They're killing people all over the damn country, hundreds of them a day to jack their numbers up
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These people aren't a political party, they're a group of satanic demons
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Who've promoted worse and worse people into power positions where you now watch a democrat event
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Men, women, black, white, old, young, they're all up there going
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I mean they're like a movie where gremlins attack and they all run out of evil
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And you're like this is ridiculous
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So I don't like being under them, I don't like being their slave and let's just say it, we're all caught in their thing right now
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I don't like it
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I don't like the fact that they're, these Lilliputians are tying me down and tying you down
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Right now
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They are tying you down and they think it's funny
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Well I don't think it's funny and I'm gonna break free
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And I need you to break free with me
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I'm gonna go to break, I got a plug, we won't be here
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We've got this special running
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Memorial Day special and it's a lot of great products
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I love a growling armpit
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Sir, this is a Denny's, we're gonna need you to
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We've got Sink!
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I don't know how you could listen to that and be like god this guy gets it
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You know what, I want
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This guy's on the level
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I want Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds to do all of my ad pitches from now on, that's my plan
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I also think that there's a very limited number of movies that have gremlins in them
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There's Gremlins 1
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There's the new batch
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Gremlins 2
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I'm sure there's a direct-to-DVD
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Probably
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I was not allowed to watch those movies as a kid, my parents thought they were too scary and possibly demonic
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Right, well that's fair
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That clip is the kind of thing I was like, yeah we got an episode
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That'll do it
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That kind of ridiculous performance that leads straight into
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Like, I've never heard an ad pitch where he's like mentioning a sale through gritted teeth
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This is, that's overacting
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That's overacting, I'll say that
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And that ad pitch goes on in that same voice, that same angry voice
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Of course
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We got coconut protein bars
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Even Orson Welles never chewed that much scenery when selling something
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Dick
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So on this May 26th episode, it was really interesting to listen to because it really felt like
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Alex is almost in some ways returning to normal
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Like, it felt like there was a lot more of
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He's reopening his narrative, so to speak
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I don't know about that, there's just like more familiar things
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And I guess that's not fair, because he has started to dip his toe back into Seth Rich stuff
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Sure
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In the past little bit
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So then it feels like a gradual return to like, oh I remember when you used to do this
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And so, of course
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I'm not against the average Muslim
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Oh boy
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They're a human being with a soul, and a lot of them are great people
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But the political systems of Islam are authoritarian and oppressive
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And anti-western, anti-Christ
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And
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Wait till I tell you about what you believe
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Where Islam's in control and outside of that is the house of war
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And so it's non-compatible, but in Europe and in
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Now the United States to a great extent except for Trump
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And especially in the UK
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They're accepting the most cancerous forms of Islam
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And so here's an Islamic call to prayer broadcast on loudspeakers in Great Britain
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That's been celebrated as political and spiritual diversity
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Imagine if I bought a building in the middle of London and put a 500-word speaker on there
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And started talking about the New World Order
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Or about Jesus Christ
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They'd come shut me down saying, hey you don't have a right to do that in the public area
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So what's going on here is that because it was Ramadan
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And a number of cities, you know, they'd granted a permit for mosques
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Which are closed due to the coronavirus
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They could broadcast their call to prayer over loudspeakers
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Yeah
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This was not something that just like went through the entire city of London or anything
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It was more localized to communities of people living near mosques
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Right
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There was only nine mosques involved in London
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Which is a bigger city than can be overwhelmed by nine loudspeakers
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Our fan Abraham told the Metro
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Quote, because the mosque is such a focal point
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Especially this month, not being able to go is very emotional
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For my parents at home, they were in the garden and heard it
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So at least they could listen to it and hear it coming directly from the mosque
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It meant a lot for them that the mosque is still there and serving its purpose
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Hopefully this will be over very soon and we can get back to some sort of normality
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So, normal
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Imagine if I were to build a building and then regularly at certain intervals of time
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A large ding would occur
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Right
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What kind of monster would that be?
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Now, that is one part of this
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And really ultimately Alex is just trying to scare his audience
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With the image of non-white, non-Christians taking over the West
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This is essentially white nationalist agitation wrapped in the comforting blanket of victimhood
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Like you mentioned, church bells ring through American cities all the time
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And if Alex really wants to play fucking games, I'll play games with him
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And I'll tell him to go down to State Street here in downtown Chicago
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I used to work downtown and literally every day on my way to the Red Line
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I would have to pass this one asshole standing there with his own microphone plugged into an amp
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Every single day I would have to walk past him yelling at people that they're going to hell
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Calling women who dressed in ways he found ungodly horrors
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And saying all kinds of homophobic shit
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This guy out on State Street harassing people
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He's out there so much that he has his own Wikipedia page
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Specifically because he harasses people with such regularity in Chicago
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Yeah, I know that guy
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This is how huge of a public asshole this guy is
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After Trump cancelled his rally in Chicago back in 2016
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The right wing was going on about how Chicago doesn't care about free speech
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In response, people started posting a meme with the State Street preacher
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And the caption, quote,
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Anybody thinking Chicago denies freedom of speech doesn't know this guy
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In the biggest, busiest section of one of the country's biggest cities
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A bastion of evil globalist leftist demons
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This guy has not only been preaching into loudspeakers for decades
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He's also been harassing people hatefully pretending that's preaching
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And no one has shut him down
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So my point here is that Alex is wrong, can't go fuck himself
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And all he's doing is trying to make his audience more scared of Muslims
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Yep
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So fuck you, but it's back to sort of normal
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It feels like it's been a while since we've had one of those narratives
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Since straight up Muslim baiting
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Yeah
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Yeah, it has been a while
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Yeah, it's weird
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We've been denying 100,000 deaths for a long time
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And Alex is so focused on like, you know, virus and China stuff
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Yeah
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But it's interesting because now that his Islamophobia is back up
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Because of this story, I guess
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Sure
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I don't know what's causing this
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Maybe he went to the pool supply shop
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People were worshiping in a normal fashion for them, so
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That's threatening
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Yeah
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For Alex
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But because that is on the rise, because that's ascendant again
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That intersects a little bit with China in an interesting way
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But from Michigan to Texas, from London to Los Angeles, from Rio de Janeiro to Berlin
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Name five more cities
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They are called the prayers
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I don't like to call them Chinese, but they don't put up with that
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Because they know it's a group trying to take them over
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Uhhhh
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Just do your thing, don't try to take me over
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See, here's where Alex can really and truly go fuck himself
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Wow
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He's saying that China doesn't put up with Islam and they should, quote, do their thing
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This seems to imply that Alex has no problem with the Chinese treatment of Muslims
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This just doesn't square with how whenever he wants to attack China
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Alex will bring up their treatment of the Uyghur people
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This is just so indicative of how everything is a tool for Alex
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The plight of the Uyghurs is useful whenever he needs to attack China
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But it's not so useful when he's trying to make people scared of Islam
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It's not productive to be concerned about oppression directed at Muslims
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If your argument is supposed to be that they're taking over
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I feel like a pure distillation of Alex's worldview is captured right there
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Do whatever you want, but leave people who remind me of myself alone
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That's basically the bottom line
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Can you believe how evil China is for orchestrating what is essentially a genocide?
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Listen, China, go ahead with the genocide, just leave me out of it
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And I will continue to yell about the things that I find abhorrent about your treatment of the Uyghurs
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whenever I need to make comments about you, but do your thing
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I mean I want you to keep doing it because then I get to yell about it
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So apparently some people in the UK were fasting along with the Muslim community in solidarity around Ramadan
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And Alex takes that as a threat
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Oh man, he doesn't like it
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So here's the Lib Dem leader fasting for holy month of Ramadan in solidarity with Muslims
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So this Dem Democrat leader over there is promoting sexualization of children and everything
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Sure
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And meanwhile he's promoting Islam, here it is
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It's an early rise for me today as I prepare for my first ever fast in the holy month of Ramadan
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I want to show solidarity with Muslims who are in isolation during this month
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Hit pause real quick, I'm not saying this guy's a child molester, back it up
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I'm just saying he looks like one
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I mean I would, this big creepy, you know, lout is just here
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Oh the Muslims, oh I'm gonna virtue signal to them, oh that I'm fasting
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Oh yeah right, he'll be 20 pounds fatter at the end of it
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So it's just disgusting to see the way that Alex will so wantonly use accusations and insinuations of pedophilia against anyone he wants to attack
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If you decide to engage in an act to make non-white, non-Christian groups feel welcome in society, that's enough to trigger Alex
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Yup
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To that point, like it's crazy
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Yeah it doesn't take much to go from just regular old evil globalist to obviously he looks like a pedophile
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Sure
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Anyway there's also something interesting to add to this story that Alex could have covered if he wanted to
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Which I would like to hear his take on because I'm sure it would be stupid, but one of the folks that was doing this gesture in solidarity
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A guy named Ian Manning, he wasn't the guy in that video but he's another guy who was involved
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He was planning to do this fast for Ramadan, so he woke up in the morning and he tweeted a picture of his breakfast pre-fast which included bacon
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Of course
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And then he had to, of course, apologize, like I didn't even realize
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Yeah yeah yeah, whoopsadoodle
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Yeah
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One step forward, two steps back kind of thing
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I should have just eaten my morning chicken wings
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Yeah
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So I wish Alex would have talked about that because at least it would be interesting as opposed to just blanket whoever is nice to people I don't like
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Yeah that's unreal
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Yeah
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What a disgusting monster
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Totally
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So Alex has a guest coming up and it's a guest that we haven't heard from in a little bit
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He is a guy who has been known to have his own currency
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Sure, sure
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That should tip you off, it's Max Kaiser
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It's great dude
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Alex has a warning though before he comes on air
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Max Kaiser is going to pop in, which is great, I like Max, but if it's just a serious show on RT
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If he does that show we're going to have a nice discussion, if it just turns into like a
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Tourette's syndrome of a Bitcoin production promotion I'm going to end it, because I'm just, I'm out of gas man
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And I like Max Kaiser, I like the Max Kaiser on his show, the Max Kaiser on my show, I don't like him
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We'll see what happens
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Alex isn't wrong, Max Kaiser is very different on his show, he just uses it as a platform to try and sell his
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To sell
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But not Max coin, I think that's dead
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Right
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He's just trying to push people into the Bitcoin marketplace
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Of course
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Literally through the channels that he endorses
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The last time he was on, he and Alex, it was all just about Alex
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Hey Alex, I tried to give you a ton of Bitcoin that would be worth millions now
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I was like god dammit
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That's why he's very bad
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Oh I would be
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If someone had offered me like a thousand Bitcoin when they were worth a penny or something like that
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And I said no, now like sure
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If somebody had offered me ten Bitcoin whenever it was a penny now, I'd be like god dammit, that's what, 60 grand?
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It was much more than ten for Alex back then
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I believe it
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And that should give you some sense of how rich Max Kaiser is also, he is loaded
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He's loaded huh, god dammit
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Most likely, unless
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Evil always wins, god dammit
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I have a strong sense that he might have a lot of millions
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Yeah
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But Alex, before he gets to this interview with Max Kaiser, he's got to hit some of the hard hitting news of the day
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Let's play former Van Halen frontman, the Red Rocker, Sammy Hagar
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Oh boy
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I'm not locking down anymore
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This is important, this is important stuff
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Sammy Hagar
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So speaking of Sammy
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Love his jeans by the way
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Oh what about his boos
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Ah can't like it
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You know what, boos, that's interesting
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I remember that Alex got a DUI a little bit ago
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I remember that too
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Yeah, and remember after that he said I'm never gonna drink because then you know no one will have it over me or anything
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He can't, yeah he would never drink again
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Yeah, bad news about that
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Oh no
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I've never seen such an awakening, I was in a
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Just tell the story true, I was in a liquor store with my wife about two weeks ago getting some beer and wine for a party some friends were gonna have
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And I'm in there
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Wait what
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I'm in there
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And they just mobbed me
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They're all like I used to think you were full of it I'm a liberal you're right it's all a scam it's all a fraud
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Yet another story that didn't happen but probably what did happen is I went to the liquor store
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Yeah
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Got some boos for a party my friends are having
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Maybe his wife got, maybe his wife bought him a flash mob
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You know for his birthday or whatever it is
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They all showed up to the liquor store by Cameo
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It was a Zoom flash mob or something
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I was going to get some beer and wine for a party that I shouldn't be going to
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Yeah
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So Max Geiser shows up and man this is amazing
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This is one of the
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Man, I've never heard an interview like this
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How long does it last?
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It lasts the entire time
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Oh okay, I thought it was gonna be a
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Oh I mean when Alex said if he'd start selling Bitcoin I'm gonna cut him off
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He doesn't
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Alex isn't gonna do that
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Of course, of course
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Because dude I can't, I don't even know how to set this up
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I've never heard somebody do something like this on his show
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I'm gonna throw down the gauntlet and I'm going to change your viewers' lives right now
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I'm gonna give every one of your viewers ten dollars of free Bitcoin right now
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If they go to swanbitcoin.com forward slash Alex
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The promo code Alex
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They'll get ten dollars free Bitcoin right now
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Right now
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That's your on-ramp to Bitcoin
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Okay, I'll be accused in some SEC thing
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This is the first I'm learning of this
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That's right, that's right
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I'm not playing anymore, okay
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We're going to finally make a solution available to your listeners
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That are now going to experience the hardest money ever in the history of humankind
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And escape the fiat money prison
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Alright, swanbitcoin.com forward slash
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Or you can use forward slash Kaiser, use my name, or forward slash Alan
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It'll get you to the same place, you get ten dollars free Bitcoin
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That's the best deal any of you listeners are going to hear
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Hey Max, here's the deal, here's the deal
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Listen, when I said I like currencies outside the system
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Just not even for the speculative value
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But so you could actually get across the border with money that's yours
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And to take care of your family
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So when I told you I like, I get the concept of Bitcoin
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I don't like the speculation, the wars
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But this is what I'm talking about
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You're on the show, and I knew you'd probably plug Bitcoin
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But now, promo code Alex, promo code Alex here
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They're going to have the damn FBI coming out of black helicopters in probably six hours over this
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I don't even know, I want to hear about this
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I thought you were ready to fight the war
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You don't understand Max, you don't understand
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If I wipe my ass wrong to frickin' fence at me
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I thought you were ready to go into the ring
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With the fiat money
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Caught off by the break
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Oh, that's good stuff
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That's wild
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That is, that is
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To produce your show, man
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What are you doing?
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Owen better start beating the shit out of Alex
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Cause he's a cuck now
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That just happened
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That is brutal
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He'll be destroyed by Owen
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I surprised Alex with a URL
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And a promo code
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That is his name
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Without, god that's such an ass kicking
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That is a flex of the highest order
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Alex said before the interview
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If you start selling Bitcoin
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I'm going to end the interview
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He not only doesn't end the interview
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Max is, like
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He has to have prepared that promo code
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Oh yeah, oh yeah
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Oh yeah, that is
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He showed up and just completely forced Alex into that
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That is brutal
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It's outrageous
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That is really, really fucked up
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That kind of tells you about
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Implied power imbalance between them
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Oh yeah
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And that leads me to believe that Max knows
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He can do whatever the fuck he wants on the show
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And that makes me maybe suspect that this is brokered programming
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I'm not positive, obviously
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But like, that would explain it
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Although, another possible explanation
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Is that, you know
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We're looking at how shitty Alex is treating Joe Rogan
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Lying about his Spotify deal
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I was just thinking about that, same thing, yeah
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Maybe this is just how Alex thinks friends interact
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Because Max is being a real asshole to Alex
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Real piece of shit
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Maybe it's just like, hey my world, this is how we
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This is how we bros do it
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Psychopaths are just like, haha
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I took advantage of you in a really immoral and fucked up way
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I'm gonna fleece your listeners
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You got me, you got me
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I can't wait to take advantage of you in some immoral, fucked up way
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We'll give ten dollars of bitcoin to all your listeners
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And one of them falling down a trap
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Will make up for all of whatever we give away
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Yeah, no kidding
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God, it'll be great
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Ten dollars of bitcoin is what, one thousand?
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Yeah, something terrible
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So Alex, in this next clip
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They come back and they're talking, like he doesn't kick Max off the show
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And I think he starts to come around on it a little bit
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But the problem that Alex has
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Is he's not getting paid
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I'm trying to fix the problem by offering a solution out of fiat money
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Bitcoin has proven itself over nine years
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It's never gone down
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For a major promotion
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I have to agree with the position
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I don't think it's moral
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I don't think it's overall a good bet for my audience
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I have to understand it
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I have to tell them
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And then I gotta get paid
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I'm on this operation to feed all these little baby birds that are very hungry
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Get rid of the preamble
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He's like a little baby bird
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I just gotta get a cut
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Let's talk, let's talk, you know
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Maybe I jumped the gun a bit
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Oh, it's always
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I'm gonna get the money, I'm gonna get the money
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You know, it's important that we get this information out there
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I think we would agree
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I'm gonna get the money, get the money, get the money, get the money
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So Alex being like, it's always like
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Yeah, you're gonna get the money
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You know, like him saying that makes me think
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That all of those other things
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Like I have to be sure it's moral
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It makes me think that those aren't his primary considerations
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Maybe there have been negotiations where Max has been like
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You'll get all this money
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And Alex is like, I need to be paid up front
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Yeah, I'm gonna need a 10% stake on every
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Look, if we used one of those fucking referral programs
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We'd at least get a cent on everything, you know
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Maybe
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Yeah, I look, it's just
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Promo code knowledge
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It's shady shit
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And you know
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By the time this interview wraps up
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It feels like Alex has come around on it
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But it's also telling his audience like
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Hey, this is bad news
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But I'm okay with it
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Weird
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But just separately
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Moving away from that
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And we'll put out the URL you wanted to put out
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For folks that want to get $10 of free Bitcoin
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Which I think as long as you take it as that
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You know, cheese on the mousetrap
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That's fine folks
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A little bit of a test
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You know, it's kind of like going to a random whorehouse
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But no, no, no, seriously
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I'm gonna stop being mean
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What?
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Why are you allowing someone
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To sell your audience cheese on a mousetrap?
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Hey, listen
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I think what China is doing with Bitcoin is horrific
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And it's terrible
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Also, hey, you do what you do
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Just so long as I don't get fucked up
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Do it to my audience
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Yeah, I would like
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He has no interest in
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I would like a cut from all of the people you swindle with this
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Yeah
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So we end the 26th with that
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Very, very weird nonsense
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And we get to the 27th
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And by this point
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Trump has started to make some noise
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About his, the Twitter beef
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Sure
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Trump's got into a little fight with Twitter
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Obviously Trump has come out
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There's a big story up at DrudgeReport.com
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It's also on Infowars.com
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Trump threatens to close down social media platforms
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That silent conservatives
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As feud with Twitter ramps up
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Well it's not a feud
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They're blocking the president
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Telling people that
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Mailing everyone in California
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Or New York
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A mail-in ballot
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Is going to be rife with fraud
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That's on record that you don't do that
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Nobody does that
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There are five states in the United States
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That conduct all of their elections by mail
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We're talking Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, and Utah
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Studies have been done about their elections
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And there's no indication
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Of any increased fraudulent behavior
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California, Nebraska, and North Dakota
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All allow counties
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To decide if they want to do
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Mail-in ballots for their elections
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And there's a bunch of other places
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Sure
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That allow varying degrees
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This entire talking point from the right wing
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Is exclusively about trying to suppress the vote
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If there's a pandemic going on
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And people have to go to crowded buildings to vote
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You're going to convince at least a portion of them to stay home
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And this election in particular seems to be one where
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Neither side is necessarily going to convince anyone
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That their candidate is right
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It's just about who has more folks come out
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In that environment, if you're looking to win
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The best strategy is to suppress voting
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There are ways we could handle doing this election safely
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But they're going to have to include some of these
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Remote voting strategies
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And possibly allowing voting over a week
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Instead of one day to spread out the number of people
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At polling locations
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There's a number of ideas people have floated
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You can expect Trump and his mouthpieces
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To resist all such measures or suggestions
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As being inherently fraudulent
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And please do know that their concerns aren't sincere at all
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Nope
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CBS News reported last week that White House
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Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany had
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You know, she's been one of these people
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Who's been out there attacking mail-in voting
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She herself voted by mail in every election
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Since November 2008
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It's not a fraudulent system when they use it
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But it is when you do
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That's the key
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I'm so furious
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The media has failed us entirely on this
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Because this entire thing should literally be like
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Republicans are lying to suppress the vote
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Do not talk about voter fraud
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Don't even mention voter fraud whatsoever
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Just say that the Republicans are lying to suppress the vote
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It should just be like an air horn
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Yeah, that's it
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That's all you need to do
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Even pretending to take them seriously
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Is doing everyone such a huge disservice
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Yeah
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So it turns out Trump is on the warpath
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Against these big tech companies
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Right, because we live in the single worst timeline
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That I can imagine
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Yeah, but there's also still palace intrigue
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Trump's not surrounded by idiots
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Yes he is
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And the word is Ivanka and Jared
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Who have nothing against them
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Personally
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Are so far up Google's ass
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Excuse my French
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That
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Well let's just say this
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Their lips and their asses are touching
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So if that is what you believe
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Then you have to believe that Trump is fine
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With having them be high level advisors
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And have Google up their ass or whatever
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Look
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Why does he play these games?
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This is so stupid
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Hey, my God King is Trump
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And I want him to have complete and total power
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As much as possible
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And I want him to take out Google
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Also, his children are in a human centipede with Google
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That's just how it works
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And I'm fine with that
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Look, I think it's bad
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But I still want him to be God King
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God, I hate that
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This is a nonsensical approach
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Yeah
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So we now revisit this
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The narrative about Democrats sending COVID patients to nursing homes
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Sure
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And
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And over half the deaths nationwide
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It was 48
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Now it's 51% of all the deaths
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Are nursing homes
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And it's like dominoes one after the other
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Think about the cold bloodedness of this
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The UN comes up with it
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It's put out by the NIH, CDC
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Yeah, think about the cold bloodedness
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And the Dems follow the UN plan to the T
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Republican states didn't
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And I mean, this is this is like if I walked in
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To a nursing home with people with a deadly pneumonia
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And so we're going to put people next to you
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Oh, that's what they did
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The one group that it was killing that they knew
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Not just to boost the numbers
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Not just to make the money
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Thirteen thousand forty nine thousand
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Do your math
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That's a lot of money
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Not really
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Fifty plus thousand dollars
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That's not even why they did it
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That's just gravy
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You got gravy
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You got your chicken fried steak
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You got your peas
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You got your corn on the cob
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You got your sad fictions there
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Name five more foods
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Is the power
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Alex is hungry
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Wow
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So a couple things to remember in terms of nursing homes
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One thing is that they house a particularly vulnerable population
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So you would expect number of cases and deaths to be higher there
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Than in the general population
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A second thing is that because we all understand that dynamic
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There are much more stringent testing thresholds
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For people living in long-term care facilities
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Than for the general population
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Which would also lead to an increase in statistics
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Because it's really important to know
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If they are sick
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For some comparison in Massachusetts
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There's a ninety percent threshold
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That's required to be met for testing in these facilities
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Whereas in the general public
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There's no requirement
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Obviously I'm not trying to minimize the issue
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The fact that a lot of people are dying in these nursing homes
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Is a horrible tragedy
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I only want to provide a little context for Alex's bullshit
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Also I'm not sure about his statistics
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About the ratio of deaths in nursing homes
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According to a May 26th release from the AARP
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Approximately 16,000 people who are in nursing homes
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Either residents or staff have died from COVID-19
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Which isn't close to half the number of the United States
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I'm not entirely sure
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I found a couple of things that were
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I think one of the things that was getting twisted
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Or getting lost
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Is there are like some states where the number is much higher
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Like the percentage of people who are in nursing homes
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Is like fifty percent of the deaths in the state
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And then in New York it's like thirteen percent
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And I think that what might be getting mistranslated
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Is not weighting these numbers correctly
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I think I'm not entirely sure
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I don't want to say for sure
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But that AARP thing is pretty recent
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And they're in the business of knowing things about retirees
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Seems like their main focus even
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Yeah I'm not entirely sure
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I don't even particularly care to get into the stupid conspiracy
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About Democrat states intentionally infecting people at nursing homes
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Because honestly it's nuts
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And one of the more dangerous possible things
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Alex could be advancing as a conspiracy theory right now
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There's no excuse for this kind of thing
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And he has absolutely no proof anything like this is happening
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Outside of an executive order Governor Whitmer signed
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That he hasn't read
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His theory is that they put all these COVID-19 cases into nursing homes
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So they could infect everyone and thus make a lot of money
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By scamming Medicare to treat these new patients
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And then the stake is power or whatever
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This theory is stupid
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But it gets even stupider when you consider that on March 4th
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The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services released a memorandum
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That put into place additional regulations
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Related to screening and infection containment protocol at nursing homes
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Which if not followed could result in disqualification
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From participation in Medicare and Medicaid
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Sure
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Quite literally if people were behaving in the way Alex is claiming they are
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There's a memo here that makes it clear that they would be ineligible
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To collect the money Alex thinks is one of their main motivations
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If not all of the money from Medicare and Medicaid
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For destroying their entire business
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And go to jail
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Yeah
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This is fun games for Alex
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But they're real people who have lost loved ones out there
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And what he's doing is trying to take their grief
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And transform it into something marketable for him
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And I find that sort of behavior to be absolutely reprehensible
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It's normal for Alex
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But it is fucking villainous
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It's tough to look at
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And it's a powder keg
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Because these are very sensitive things
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Yeah
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I mean with the amount of rage that is everywhere
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Yeah
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It's just, it's so irresponsible to suddenly just blame
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All of the, oh fucking
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The people trying to help are now the people that are targets to
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All of these fuckers
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So there are a number of states that Alex lists as these Democrat states
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That are doing this
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You have primarily here Michigan with Governor Whitmer
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Sure
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And then New York is also apparently in Alex's cross hairs
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Because of something about their website
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So let's get into the documents
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Because I just spent 45, 50 minutes on this
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Let me just show you
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This is the Daily Mail
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New York Health Department website quietly deletes
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Controversial coma order that forced nursing homes
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To admit coronavirus patients led to 5,000 deaths
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Now under federal and state law in New York and federally
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That's a crime to officially delete a document out of a database
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Oh and you know Alex Jones always shows you the proof
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1663 US code justice.gov
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Protection of government property
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Protection of public records and documents
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Updated in 1974 with the Freedom of Information Act
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Also explaining it's a felony
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And that's what they just did
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Oh but it's okay because you're the mafia Don of New York
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And we're all so scared of you
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Although I'm so scared of you
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So I really enjoy the turn of phrase
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You know Alex always shows you the proof
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Yeah
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Let's get into the documents
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Yeah let's get in there
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So when he says let's get into the documents
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So that he pulls out a Daily Mail article
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That's the trick
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Yeah that's the trick
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So this is just about a page being taken down on the website
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Of the New York Health Department
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That's not the same thing as deleting a record
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Got him
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Alex is reading a statute that's completely unrelated
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To removing something from a website
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And this rings hollow for me
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Considering how many things Trump's administration
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Has taken off websites and Alex doesn't care about that at all
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Oh no I mean you know people don't really need to worry
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About the EPA and climate change and all that stuff
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Sure
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In this Daily Mail article
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A Cuomo spokesperson said that this was just a situation
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Where there was updated guidance that built upon the original declaration
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So they replaced the original guidance
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The thing that Alex is failing to understand
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Is pretty much without exception
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All of these situations that he's talking about
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With these Democrat governors and all this
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These orders are about making explicit
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That health centers could not discriminate
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About which patients they would or would not accept
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Based on their COVID status
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This isn't about creating risks within nursing homes
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It's about ensuring patients' rights to care
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So there are even rules in place
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That if places quote cannot accept patients
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If they are unable to provide adequate care
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Including staff screenings, PPE, and infection control measures
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So even in the original thing that was taken down
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From the website to be replaced with proper updated guidance
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If these places aren't up to the task of housing
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And giving adequate care to patients who have tested positive
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Then they can't accept these patients
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Because essentially the original order is
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Hospitals are probably going to turn away poor people
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And then the other order is
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But if you can't do anything
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You can't do anything
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And people who are in
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Particularly in these long-term care facilities
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Have specialized needs that may not be able to be helped
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At a normal hospital
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Or just a regular run-of-the-mill hospital
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There might be a particular reason why
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They need to be taken care of by specialists
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And denying people health care based on their condition
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Is America's way
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It's troubling
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It could lead to really negative consequences
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For people who would be refused care
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And so that's primarily what these things in New York
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And Michigan were about
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And Alex is misrepresenting that and twisting it around
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Because of course it is
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Of course he is
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And that's where he's getting into this
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Like they sent these people in with the coronavirus
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In order to infect these people
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And now he's getting to the point where he's
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Straight up accusing all these doctors of premeditated murder
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And kind of insinuating that you should go show up at hospitals
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And yeah, the people that took part in this
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That have medical degrees
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Are all accomplices to premeditated murder
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So I just spent the whole first hour on that
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And I'm having trouble getting off of it
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I have had an instinct
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To go physically to these places
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And I know you're all having that instinct as well
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That's a normal instinct when they're killing the most defenseless people
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I mean there's something wrong with you if you're not pissed off
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But imagine those that love it
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They love the power
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To kill an unborn baby or to kill a baby after it's born
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Or to kill an old person
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That power over them
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Just shades of the Pizzagate stuff
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With like the insinuations of murdering children in this pizza place
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And you should go check it out for yourself
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That kind of same vibe
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He doesn't learn lessons
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Because no one teaches him lessons
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Because nobody is held accountable when you're in the right wing
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Well and particularly for him
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Like there's apparently no rules
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No, there aren't any
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Yeah so he does these things and like we've seen
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Potential consequences
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We've seen the patterns of behavior that are facilitated by people
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You know, encouraging this
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And let's hope people don't start showing up in hospitals
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Thinking they're going to free
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Elderly patients who are being intentionally infected
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If we see a bullet fired at a hospital
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Alex should be immediately removed from air
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Like that's just it
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Guess what? He probably won't be
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But maybe there will be a lawsuit
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So in this next clip, Alex continues on this theme
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And he's sort of talking about how all of his enemies
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Everybody, they're all zombies
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Maybe you should kill them
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Maybe not though
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Maybe not
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You should probably kill them
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But maybe not
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Hey, maybe
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Hey, look, kill them
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But don't
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At the most legal limit that I can get
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Don't kill them
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I am inspiring you to do a thing
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But I'm not doing it
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Hey
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That's why the allegory that came in the last hundred years or so
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Of a zombie
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That was based on old African lore
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And old European lore
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And every culture had the lore of a zombie
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It means a brain-dead, crazy person
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That's out of their mind
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That will eat flesh
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Cause psychos get
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No, it doesn't
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What?
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And that's what they are
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And what does a zombie want?
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It wants brains
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Why does it want brains?
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Because it doesn't have brains
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It's an allegory
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What?
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You got brains
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You got a husband
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You got a wife
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You got a life
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You go to church
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You love God
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You're not perfect
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But you believe in humanity
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And you got a connection to God
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And man, these zombies see that
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And they don't like it
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And all they want to do is hold you down
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And bite big chunks out of you
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So
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I asked everybody again
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Do you think you can make a deal with a zombie?
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Do you think you can throw it some meat
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And it's gonna go away?
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No
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You throw a zombie meat over your fence
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It's gonna climb that fence
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Cause it knows where the meat came from
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You're thinking of possums
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And so
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Placating
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And kissing all these people's butts
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Has to end
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So I'm not gonna do anything violent to
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Governor
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Whitmar
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Or Governor Newsom
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Or Governor Cuomo
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Or Governor Wolf
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I'm just gonna sit here
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Like a good, cowardly American
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And watch them kill everybody in the nursing homes
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So if you're not a good, cowardly American
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I sit there and I take it
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And I let them kill old people
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Cause I'm a coward
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No, seriously folks
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It would turn them into
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Martyrs
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So the last thing we want is a little hair
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On American psychos
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Head to be harmed
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We need to destroy his name
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We need to expose what a monstrous sack of garbage he is
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And we need to expose all these monsters
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And we need them to be indicted
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If I were a dishonest actor
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I would have cut that
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After or right before he said
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No, that would turn them into martyrs
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Because
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You know
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That rest of that is him
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Very clearly insinuating that
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Any good American
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Would kill these governors
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And I don't think that that part
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At the end really actually takes away
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My problem with
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His entire
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Thing
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I mean
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You can't
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You can't
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I mean that's just the same thing as
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I'm gonna kill them politically
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Yeah
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You walk away from that
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With the exact same impression
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It's just like
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Yeah there would be some downsides
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To killing them
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But maybe you should
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Or maybe not
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Hey I don't know
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I'm a coward
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Also he's really just describing
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The scarecrow
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But I guess like
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George Romero's take on the scarecrow
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Yeah there's some problems
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I get really tired of
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Like zombies do have brains
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I get really tired of doing like
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Alex Jones literary analyses
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It's bad
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And like
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Lure histories
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It's insane
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He's wrong about everything
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Pretty much
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Everything
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So here's the last clip from May 27th
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And it's the last clip because
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The third hour of the fucking show is him
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Interviewing that libertarian
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Former satanist priest guy whose name
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I've already forgotten
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Done
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Yeah
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Bye
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Click
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Yeah
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Don't give a shit
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Yeah
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He's a real
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Real disaster
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Exciting cat
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Exciting cat
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Yeah he's like
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I used to worship satan
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But then I found
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The libertarianism
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Yeah
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He doesn't phrase it that way
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But it is very clear
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That that is what happened
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Not that much of a difference
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No
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It's quite annoying
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Yeah
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So here's the last clip and it's just
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Alex lying about
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Twitter's fact check
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Unsubstantiated claim
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Twitter fact checks trump
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On mail-in voting fraud
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Yeah you've had mail-in ballots
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Around the world be totally fraud
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Written but
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Currently there's no proof that
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The 2020 election was stolen
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Cause it isn't happening
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For 159 days
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So technically it's unsubstantiated
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It's like
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It's like saying
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There's a rattlesnake I saw crawl in that hole
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Don't stick your hand down it
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You're gonna get bit
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Eh maybe it's not hungry
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Maybe it's not scared
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Maybe it doesn't bite you
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That was not their problem
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Their problem was primarily twofold
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One is that there isn't evidence that
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Mail-in ballots have a higher propensity
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For fraud
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Well that's an issue
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And the second is that
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What Trump was doing was quite literally
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An explicit and overt act of election
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Misinformation
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Yeah
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Because hey there are a number of states
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That currently primarily use
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Mail-in ballots
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What he's saying is that your system of
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Elections is rife with fraud
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All I'm saying is what I hear
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Is peaceful transition of power
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In the end of 2020
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He's attacking the electoral process
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Of at least five states in the country
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Well he's attacking the very concept of an
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Electoral process
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You bet
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He would prefer not to have that
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And so that's why Twitter fact checks things
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Not because a technicality of the 2020 election
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Hasn't happened yet
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No
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That's ridiculous but that's the best Alex
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Can do because he sucks
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It's gonna be so pathetic when they back down
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It's gonna be a real sad day
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Yep
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Yep
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So now we get to the 28th Thursday show
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And I thought that this was going to be
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A wild ride because of things that are happening
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In the world particularly in Minneapolis
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And I was pretty shocked when we opened the show
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I know that there's a lot of different
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Political ideas and political systems out there
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In the world
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But you see what I do is I actually study
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What the mega corporations and the big banks
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And the robber baron dynasties actually
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Believe in and interrupt to so
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Because you run propaganda for them
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It's the reason I listen to this show
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It's the reason all the major intelligence agencies
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Listen to the broadcast
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It's the reason that millions of people
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Despite all the hurdles come here every day
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Because I know what I'm talking about
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Do ya
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I just know what they're talking about
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Do they
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I'm callers know what they're talking about
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Don't they
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And this is real and this is unfiltered now
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It has now officially come out
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Not just in Australia, not just the UK
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But now the US has come out
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The State Department
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Confirmed they knew they were doing
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development of coronaviruses at that lab. Now, that's old news. Now it's confirmed
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mainstream. You know what that means?
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That means the deep states losing their war against America. So this is how he's
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starting the show. Yeah. I have no idea what he's talking about. I tried to find
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with this State Department, I have no idea what he's talking about. Don't worry about it.
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I tried to find it on Infowars. I couldn't find it. No idea. No clue. So I was
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baffled by this. Just make it up. I was completely thrown. I heard the air raid
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sirens. I thought for sure he would be talking about the situation that's
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unfolding. And he was not immediately. But he does get to it pretty quickly.
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And what he does is something that I think, you know, I'm getting to a
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point where I'm not really surprised by anything he does. And I kind of have a
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sense of how things are gonna go. I think there's probably a lot of people
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who figured he would blow up and freak out. And my instinct told me that no,
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that's not what he's going to do. What he's going to do is give a patronizing
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call for unity. This is where Alex goes in a time like this.
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And it turns out I was correct. I was praying hard this morning, woke up at 4
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a.m. and God just said be positive, talk about the positive, and talk about what
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unifies us because that's why they're pushing all this race war stuff all over
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the news and using an example of a cop that doesn't know what he's doing. Really
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sitting on a guy's neck for fun and kills the poor guy. And you can see
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that humanity of somebody begging for air for eight minutes, then dying. And
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all of us feel for that man. I don't care if he's black or white. There's
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been similar cases of white cops sitting on top white guys heads while they beg
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and say, I can't breathe. It's terrible footage. And the officer's an idiot. He
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doesn't have this knee on the guy's head. He has it on his carotid artery. You
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block just one of those, you kill somebody. It's torturous, by the way. One
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is open. He's getting air on this artery. But the other side's not getting it.
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That's why you talk about eight minutes of torture. That guy like, I can't
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breathe. One side's locked up, you're out. The other side's getting you blood,
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man. That is painful, I'm told. So yeah, watch this, my torch to death. If you
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have any empathy, you don't like it. Kind of like all the people dying in
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nursing homes with tubes down their lungs, blowing their lungs up black,
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white, old, young being killed or crazy COVID patients that are black, beaten
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up white patients and vice versa. It's all going on because we're an evil
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fallen country. Not everybody, but in general. And so you can look at those
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images and then look at all the idiot images of people burning down targets
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and beaten up old white ladies because they're white. It's all stupid. It's all
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ignorance. And the people perish for lack of knowledge. Burning down target
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and beating up an old white lady isn't going to bring that guy back. We have to
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transcend this or the globalists are going to win and they're coming after
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everybody. So there's a lot of problems with this, but like I said, this is
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about what I would, I have come to come to expect from what aboutism and so in
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this case, the victim was a black man and the cop who killed him was a white
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man. And thus, instead of it being a brutal act of horrific violence, it's a
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cop who doesn't know what he's doing. Just the very initial framing of this is
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indicative that Alex's angle on this is going to be to minimize the murder and
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focus on the public backlash to what was felt to be an inadequate response. You
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know, the firing, what's been proven to be an response. Alex does not give a fuck
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about this story or George Floyd. It's just gotten too big for him to ignore. I
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can say that pretty comfortably considering that this is the first time
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any of the story has come up and this is the Thursday episode. Floyd was killed
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on Monday evening and the video of it would be released soon after. Alex could
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have easily brought this up on the show on Tuesday if he was concerned about
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the cops actions, but he was too busy minimizing the coronavirus and getting
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back to explicit Islamophobia. Large protests took place on Tuesday where
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police responded to protesters with percussion grenades and tear gas, which
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is a very stark tactical difference from the way the police responded to armed
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militia weirdos invading state buildings to complain about Starbucks being closed
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just a few weeks ago. If Alex cared about this story, he could have covered the
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protests that took place on Tuesday on his Wednesday show, but he was too busy
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lying about Democratic governors trying to intentionally infect nursing homes
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with coronavirus for profit and interviewing a satanic libertarian
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weirdo. The protests were in response to the police department just firing the
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officers who were involved instead of charging them with murder, and they were
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met with force. On Wednesday night there were more protests, and again the police
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used tear gas and flashbangs to try and disperse the crowd. There was property
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damage and a lot of chaos, but it's hard to look at the ensuing events and not
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understand exactly how this happened and how it could have easily been completely
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averted. This situation is still ongoing and I do not, at the time that we're
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recording, feel like I have enough information to fully grasp a lot of the
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intricacies of things. I've been trying to keep up as best I can, but I feel like
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it's very difficult for me to fully understand the bit-by-bit pieces.
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And considering the fact that we're recording here on Thursday towards
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the evening, and there's, I don't know what's going on as we've been recording.
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So I feel it's premature to get too into coverage of stuff,
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outside of saying that Alex is, like, he clearly doesn't care. He doesn't care
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about this. If this were reversed, so to speak, if this was a
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white protest and they had done what they'd done, Alex would immediately be
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like, this country was started because of property damage. The Tea Party damaged
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property, and that's because when you try and peacefully protest, then they don't listen, then you
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have to get louder, and the only way to get louder and make them listen is with
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property damage. So I don't know, I don't give a fuck what any of these
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right-wing dum-dums have to say. I don't give a shit. I don't know everything,
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but these people should shut the fuck up.
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Oh, I agree with you there.
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Yeah, just shut the fuck up.
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So what's going on here is that Alex wants to take the initial inciting event,
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a murder of a subdued man in police custody, and say, well, that's a shame,
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while yelling his lungs off, trying to scare his audience about scary black
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people looting. He can pay lip service to the initial event only so far as it
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allows him to connect to his existing narratives about the nursing homes and
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about the 20-year-old who beat up that elderly guy in one of the nursing homes.
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Even in the way Alex connects these stories, he's taking this little
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concession that George Floyd shouldn't have been killed and then following it
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up by pointing out that the 20-year-old in that nursing home video is black. He
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can't deal with the story without saying, eh, black people did some bad things too,
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which tells you all you need to know about where he's coming from.
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Yeah.
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So it's imperative for Alex to find ways to refocus the story of the murder of a
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defenseless black man by the police into a story that's really about white
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victimhood, and the way he's done that is to equivocate, you know, bring up
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instances of unrelated bad things that black people have done, and to reframe
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stories, you know, discuss the looting and the protests in such a way as to center
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white people's victimhood stories as the main thing to really worry about, like
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the woman in the wheelchair he's talking about.
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Yep.
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This is supremely unsurprising, and it's exactly what you'd expect from someone
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like Alex, whose primary existence is wrapped up in being entirely about white
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identity issues.
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Yep.
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Aren't white people always under attack? That's what we feel like.
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That's what Alex feels like.
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And especially compared to his rhetoric from the 26th and 27th where he's like,
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you're literally murdering people, and then you look at the racial disparity in
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not just police violence, but in the way that COVID is attacking people, and
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it's hard not to think, there's a passive genocide going on, and then an active
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one, and it's fucked. So, yeah.
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Well, Alex wants to center white victimhood.
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Of course. Surprising.
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You make a point.
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Apologies.
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That's fine.
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Yeah.
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Alex disagrees.
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Please do this.
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We've got about 50 of these clips, but let's just play for TV and radio listeners.
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Four or five clips of the looting and the rioting and the racial attacks on white
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people in LA and in Minnesota.
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So, you know, this is how he's starting out discussing this story, is by
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pre-front loading the stories about attacks on whites and scary black people
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and, you know, focusing on that angle of the story as a way to contextualize
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things, and it's intentional. It's what Alex is doing. The first two jobs he's
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achieved of what he plans to do. One is make it like, ah, he shouldn't have died,
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he shouldn't have been killed, but the cop didn't know what he was doing, and
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the second is center everything around white panic, and that's how you cover a
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story like this if you're someone like Alex.
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Yeah, and if you're going to appeal to unity, the protesters are multi-generational,
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multi-racial, multi-background everything, and the people on the other side are white.
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It does seem that way.
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The end.
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So, another part of this that has to be done is Alex has to make excuses for the
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officer, and here he tries.
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And I'm glad people have some humanity when they see somebody pinned down begging
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for their life, dying, and somebody callously, ignorantly killing him, because
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I guarantee you that cop didn't know he was killing him.
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Yes, he did.
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That dumb ass doesn't know about anatomy.
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He's a murderer.
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He got the guy's head turned to the side, your knees right on his carotid artery,
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Bubba. You think that cop wondered what's about to happen to him? No.
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He's a dumb ass like so many other people. There are dumb cops, there are good
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cops. There are dumb doctors, there's good doctors. There's bad, evil people,
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and there's good people. But that's not somebody being evil, that's somebody
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being a bully, dumb ass. You can see he's enjoying it, sitting there like he's in
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charge, and really all he's doing is murdering him.
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Is burning his whole life up, along with George Floyd's.
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And here we see one of the other primary features of Alex's white apologetics.
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Won't someone think of his problems, Dan?
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Well, what Alex is doing is shuffling blame.
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He's guaranteed that the cop had no idea that he was killing Floyd, but this is
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kind of hard to square with what Alex said literally seconds before that.
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If you go back to the beginning of that clip, his exact words were, quote,
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and I'm glad people have some humanity when they see somebody pinned down
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begging for their life. He said that right before saying that the cop didn't
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know he was killing him. Alex can watch the video and see a man begging for his
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life, but somehow the cop on top of him and the others who were there couldn't
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see this and were just ignorant of what they were doing. I think you can see how
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this doesn't come anywhere close to passing the smell test, and Alex isn't
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making sense. So what Alex does in situations like this is he takes any real
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meaningful blame away from white aggressors against non-white people.
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We saw this recently in the case of Ahmaud Arbery, where Alex made it okay to
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shoot and kill Arbery because the guys thought he was suspicious, and after
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they chased him down, he defended himself. This is a way of softening the way in
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which the murder is discussed, and Alex is doing the same thing here. The cop is
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only responsible for this to the point where he didn't know what he was doing,
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according to Alex, which is kind of a cowardly position. The Daily Beast
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reported on May 28th about a man named Ira Toles, who was shot by the same cop
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who killed Floyd back in 2008. There's a number of other incidents in this cop's
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history. A generous reading of Alex's positions is that he's naive, but I am
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past the point of generosity. He's calling this cop an idiot, and that he had
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no idea what he was doing, because there's too much evidence for Alex to
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outright deny the story, or to make up his own narrative about it, and it's
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gotten too big for him to ignore, so this is the game that gets played.
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Yeah.
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I am certain of this.
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It's beyond, it's just beyond what you can reasonably expect from a human being,
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as he says, with empathy.
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Yep. So, one of the things that he wants to do, though, is to take those very
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natural human reactions, the empathy that you feel, the concern, the outrage,
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and funnel them to his use.
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Oh, well, I mean, hey.
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So, what he does is he plays a clip of the video, which we won't be listening
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to on the show, but this is what he says immediately after.
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You just watched him... kill a man.
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Murder.
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Now, I want you to take what you just saw, and I want you to think about the
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56,000 people that were black, white, old, young, but mainly old, in hospitals,
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being murdered by them bringing in COVID-19 patients on purpose, and then
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sticking a hose down their neck and blowing their lungs up to get money.
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I mean this very sincerely.
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Alex only played the video to use it for his predetermined points.
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He's hoping to take whatever rightful response you have to seeing the police
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kill a defenseless man and redirect that anger away from being focused on
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issues of police brutality or racial differences in policing and point it
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squarely at his narratives.
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It's an attempt to basically take over the story by way of minimizing it and
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co-opting it, which is really shitty.
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But that's the game he plays, and it's pretty clear if you pay attention.
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Yeah.
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So, Alex is seriously focused on doing this, shifting the narrative thing, or
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using this for his narratives, and also insisting the cop didn't know what he
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was doing.
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When I was listening to this clip, I had some very visceral flashbacks to
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other things that we've covered on this episode.
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I'll explain myself on the other side.
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And they're going to show us the footage that they cherry-picked of that
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police officer committing manslaughter, bare minimum.
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Murder.
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Manslaughter, again, is when you kill somebody but didn't intend to.
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So this is murder.
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And that dumb-ass cop did not know he was killing him.
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Murdered him.
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And I'm not defending him.
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You know, his ignorance is worse than knowing he was going to do it.
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Because...
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Then he should be punished more.
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...great power comes great responsibility.
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And we have to empathize for everybody that dies.
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So I want you to now think about the 62 million babies we've killed, the tens
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of millions that have been kept alive and harvested after they're born, and
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I want you to think about them because they don't have voices to speak out.
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So yeah, be upset about...
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Neither is fucking Floyd anymore.
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That's good.
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But you think about all those old people and all those babies, and then you
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ask, where are the people pissed and upset about that?
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And where's the targeted action?
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And I'm not calling for targeted action, but you go burn down Target because
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a bad cop killed a black guy?
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What about the people killing all the old folks and killing the babies?
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They're the ones that think they're getting away with it all.
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So, like I said, when I was listening to that clip, I had a visceral flashback.
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I felt sick, and I realized that the way Alex was talking about this current
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tragedy and trying to funnel it into narratives about abortion, it was exactly
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what he did the day after the Charleston shooting.
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Here's how Alex opened his show on June 18th, 2015.
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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us.
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Very tragic events have taken place in Charleston on the East Coast.
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A deranged, classically mentally ill-looking young man has bust into a
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church last night and basically sat there for an hour before shooting and
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failing execution style nine black people on a white-on-black racial attack.
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And this is one of these events that I call a Rosetta Stone.
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There are a lot of them that are.
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But you can take this event and look at every angle of our problems through it
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and learn a lot.
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Number one, I don't mean this sarcastically,
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but Dylan Roof, who's now in police custody,
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who walked around and posted to Facebook in places himself wearing, you know,
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South African apartheid attire and patches,
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should have gone and gotten a job at Planned Parenthood or gone to medical
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school to be an abortionist, and then he could kill tens of thousands of black
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people in his career and be called a great member of society.
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And that's what the smart racists do.
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This is one of Alex's big strategies for minimizing violence against
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non-white people.
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If you ever find yourself caring about an unarmed minority being murdered,
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step back and think about abortion,
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which should help you to stop caring so much about that individual murder and
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will preclude you from ever considering the things we could do as a society to
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stop things like that from happening again.
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You never, and I mean never,
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hear Alex deploy this strategy after there's a crime against a white person.
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Can you imagine him responding to the Kate Steinle shooting by saying that it's
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terrible and sad, but consider all the abortions?
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Of course not.
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He used that death for months to argue against the US allowing in any
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immigrants.
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This is a technique that Alex wants to look like it's an act of broadening the
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scope of the story.
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It's like, oh, take this and consider.
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But in reality, what he's doing is he's trying to shift focus.
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Stories like these two are very threatening to Alex,
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so he can't really handle talking about them.
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The best way to avoid that is to pay lip service to the very clear reality and
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then try to argue that the real story is abortion.
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Why get bogged down in bickering about one death when there are so many babies?
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That math never gets deployed to distract from white death.
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It is, in reality, his way of minimizing non-white death,
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and that's very clear if you pay attention.
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Yep.
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So this was a bummer, but...
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Yeah, it's a real bummer.
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One thing that I find pretty interesting is that Alex doesn't stay on this story
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all that long, and I think part of the reason is because he knows you just got
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to touch, do this thing, and then move along.
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Because dwelling on this for too long is not in his best interests.
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Oh no.
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And it doesn't really serve his audience, like what they are into.
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Yeah, they don't care.
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No. I mean, you can...
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They already didn't care. You don't need to convince them not to care.
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Yeah. And so we jump from here on to just talking more about gates and vaccines
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and stuff.
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Another Gates vaccine bites the dust. Sick monkeys everywhere.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., chairman of the Children's Health Defense.
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And it's in the news. It was announced yesterday.
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Last week they shut down his testing company because they had fraud going on.
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Nope.
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Well, now, ladies and gentlemen, they've had the monkeys getting sick and dying
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at a 20% rate.
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So Bill Gates had said, oh, one in 10,000 will have an adverse reaction.
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So we'll have 700,000 people get sick or die.
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But 20% is not one out of 10,000. It's 20%.
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So let's do the math.
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And we have seven and a half billion people.
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Can we do the math on a calculator, guys?
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Seven and a half billion people and 20% have an adverse reaction.
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What's 20% of seven and a half billion people?
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We all know the math, don't we?
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You clearly don't.
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Yeah.
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It's 700 plus million people.
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Uh-huh.
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We all know the math.
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Wow.
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It's even higher than that.
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I bet.
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So Alex is lying about that story about the lab.
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We've touched on that a bit over the course.
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He seems to like repeating that.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has a complete fabrication on his part.
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There's no connection with reality.
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So as for this vaccine story, this is just anti-vax propaganda that's being put out by
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Robert Kennedy Jr.
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The headline of the story is, quote, another Gates vaccine bites the dust, which Alex is
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interpreting as a story about a vaccine not working out.
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But in reality, the entire story is just misrepresenting the results of preliminary trials.
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This Kennedy article is about two different vaccines that are in the process of development.
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One is from Moderna, which is, of course, Spanish for mother.
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Nice.
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That's a callback.
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I don't actually think that.
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Yeah.
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If you're just joining us, please don't.
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Sorry.
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Please don't do this.
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I got to not do jokes like that.
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So that one, the article claims, is going terribly.
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But then the source they provide is a Moderna press release titled, quote, Moderna announces
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positive interim phase one data for its mRNA vaccine against novel coronavirus.
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Great.
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The other is a different vaccine, which is being tested on macaques.
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Kennedy, in his article, writes, quote, all vaccinated macaques sickened after exposure
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to COVID-19.
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The link they provide is to the pre-publication data, and it goes to an article in the University
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of Oxford's Immunology Network website.
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If you read it, you'll find this line, quote, a SARS-CoV-2 challenge 28 days post-vaccination
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led to clinical symptoms in five out of six vaccinated animals, but improved disease progression
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compared to non-vaccinated animals.
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It seems to be saying that not all of the animals got sick, which is what Kennedy reported
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in his article.
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I mean, you round up.
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He's either lying about this paper, or he didn't even bother to read it.
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And honestly, I don't even give a shit which.
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He's an asshole, and he's not a source you should take seriously on this issue.
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But Alex is more than happy to blindly accept his narratives because they help attack vaccines.
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Man, it's wild that the son of a guy who's transformed into a bit of a progressive hero
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and many people fantasy book on creating a better America turned into such a shitbag.
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That's a real bummer.
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Sure.
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So neither of these trials are the sort of thing where anyone is saying, hey, work's
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done.
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It's just a step in the process, and Alex is intentionally misrepresenting that.
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Of course.
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So the 20% number that Alex seems to be citing is, I think he was saying that it's 20% of
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the monkeys got sick or something.
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Sure.
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It was about the Moderna vaccine in Kennedy's article, and that appears to be a human trial,
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so I don't know how that connects.
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And also, if you go to the link they provide to the Moderna press release, which is what
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this is supposed to be sourced from, you don't see 20% or even a related fraction anywhere
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in the press release.
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I honestly have no idea where that number is coming from because it's not in the source,
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nor is any indication that there were high incidents of adverse reactions in the press
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release that they linked.
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It really seems to all just be made up.
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Anyway, no one is suggesting giving anyone that vaccine or any vaccine with a 20% negative
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reaction rate.
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If that number were actually reflected in the data, that would be one thing, and because
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I'm not a fucking idiot, I understand that what would happen next is figuring out what
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went wrong and adjusting things before doing more trials.
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This seems like nothing, and it's honestly, I found it offensively petty and pointless.
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Like, there's serious stuff going on right now.
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Why am I wasting my time reading Robert Kennedy Jr.'s nonsense about vaccine trials that appears
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to be made up?
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Now, I think that almost any other issue than what's going on in Minneapolis is probably
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small potatoes in terms of importance, relevance in terms of what's going on in the world right
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now, what I would hope Alex would talk about so I could attack.
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Sure.
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So I'm disappointed by talking about a dumb Gates vaccine thing.
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However, I'm not disappointed by this next clip.
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This is where he commits a felony.
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Well, I think he's lying, but if he's not, he's in fucking serious trouble.
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This is not about taking credit.
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It's about taking review, taking stock.
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I knew that everybody was afraid to advise the president because if you did, all hell
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would break loose and it would come after you and your family.
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But I thought, hey, why go half hog?
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Let's go full hog.
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So I financed three major law firms separately from each other, three of the biggest in DC,
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a lot of money to not just write up drafts of how the president can sign executive orders.
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And another plan was a commission.
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That's what one of the law firms came up with.
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And it wasn't just the money to write these plans up, including with advice from some
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of the top people in telecommunications folks, very close.
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Oh, I mean like in the chair, you know, it's just so easy to take action when you do it.
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So he's talking about Trump's executive order about social media stuff.
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Now, let me walk you through this.
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According to that last clip, Alex paid a number of law firms to draft up some plans for Trump
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to use as the basis for this executive order against social media that, you know, you apparently
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signed today.
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I don't believe any of it's real, but if we pretend it is, let's consider some ramifications
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of this admission that I don't think Alex realizes he's saying.
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If what he's saying is true, Alex Jones is no longer a fake journalist.
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He's no longer a broadcaster.
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He is explicitly a lobbyist.
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Paying lawyers to argue for specific desired legislation is basically the definition of lobbying.
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And guess what?
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If Alex did do what he's saying and he didn't report the money he spent, he could get arrested
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for that.
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That is very illegal.
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I like it.
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Assuming that he's not making this up, he's admitting to a federal offense on air.
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According to the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995, if you employ lobbyists and you're not
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a nonprofit, you have to register with the Secretary of State and the Clerk of the House
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of Representatives.
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You don't need to register if you spend less than $11,500, but Alex said he spent a lot
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of money on this, and it's the top three firms in D.C., so if he's not making shit up, he
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spent way more than $11,500.
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Yeah, that would be a huge discount.
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Huge discount.
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Yeah, which the top three law firms in D.C. are not giving Alex.
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Law firms are not known for giving Alex discounts.
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Especially for lobbying to the fucking president.
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That's cheap.
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Small potatoes.
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People who are in the position Alex is pretending he is in are required to fill out quarterly
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reports of their lobbying activity, and failure to do so can lead to a fine of up to $200,000
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and up to five years in prison.
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There's an additional problem, too, that comes with this in terms of rules regarding lobbyists,
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and that is that Alex's show is no longer an independent platform if he's paying money
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to lobby Trump.
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If Alex is paying law firms to lobby to Trump, then it could be interpreted that the positive
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coverage that Alex gives Trump is a form of donation in kind, which could be considered
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a gift to Trump.
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That sycophantic exuberance Alex has for everything Trump does could be reconsidered as an illegal
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donation to try to sway the person you're paying to lobby toward in terms of enacting
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legislation, or in this case, an executive order, which could make this a much bigger
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crime if someone were to investigate this and find that Alex had actually done this,
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which I still don't necessarily think he actually did.
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Ah, but if he did, this could be our Al Capone tax evasion situation.
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God, let's get him locked up.
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Jordan, I don't believe Alex.
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I don't believe it either.
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I think he doesn't have the money to go to three top law firms.
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He doesn't have the money to pay his own lawyers.
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I think what this is, you know, it's just his normal blowhard narcissist braggart self
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who he can't stand to not make himself the center of every story, but if he's not lying,
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he better have reported that shit.
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Like, I searched the US Senate Lobbying Disclosure Act database and nothing came up for Alex
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Jones or Alexander Jones or anyone associated with Infowars or free speech systems, but
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I can see that he could have some fake business name that he's hiding things under.
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That's possible, but point is, Alex better be lying or he better fucking hope that no
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one decides to investigate this, because this could get you jammed up.
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God, please, please, somebody do something to bad people.
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Just once in my life, I would like to see something bad done to bad people.
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It's such a random, weird thing to be discussing, too.
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Like for me to just like, wait a second, that's lobbying.
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Personally, I kind of view what I think of when I hear that is that's somebody else's
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story.
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Somebody else did that.
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And Alex is then like, oh, that sounds like a good story for me to be.
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Oh, yeah, that's entirely possible.
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There was an article in the Daily Beast that I was reading that was talking about the roots
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of this.
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And I can't remember the guy's name, but they were saying that this was mostly cooked up
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by someone from the Heritage Foundation.
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So it's possible that that's what Alex is doing.
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That's possible.
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But like I'm just saying, if we take Alex at his word, he probably is admitting.
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Lawyer up, buddy.
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Called Barnes.
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So anyway, I thought this was interesting because as I was listening to it, I was like,
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that's fucking lobbying.
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And I was like, Alex isn't going to say that's lobbying.
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But then in this next clip, he does not say it's lobbying.
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God damn it.
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See, I wasn't trying to lobby him to get some subsidy for nuclear submarines I was building,
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or I wasn't trying to get subsidies for a golf course.
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I wasn't trying to get subsidies for something.
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I didn't want something from the president for me.
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Yes, you did.
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I wanted to be back on Facebook and Twitter.
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I wanted to take action for everybody.
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So I get where Alex is trying to come from, but legally that doesn't matter at all.
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You're still required to report lobbying expenses, even if you think they're selfless.
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And his point is stupid.
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Like you even pointed out.
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Like he's trying to say that he wasn't trying to get a subsidy for himself.
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He was fighting for everyone.
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But that's bullshit.
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Being back on social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube would be worth
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millions in revenue to Alex.
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Lobbying the president to try to force these companies to allow you on their platform
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represents a gigantic financial interest for Alex.
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Call it a subsidy or not.
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It's the same thing.
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Kind of a big deal.
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Alex is claiming that he paid law firms a ton of money to lobby the president to do
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something that would get him back on social media because being on social media is very
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profitable.
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That's the long and short of this.
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Yeah, that's the main deal.
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But here's where things get murky.
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The whole point of Trump's executive order is trying to take away the legal protection
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that these platforms have regarding what things get posted.
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For instance, if you post some copyrighted material on YouTube, YouTube isn't held responsible
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for that.
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That's the nature of the dynamic in terms of being a platform versus a publisher.
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Or if Alex Jones agitates people about a satanic cabal eating children in a pizza place, Twitter
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isn't responsible for him posting those things.
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If these platforms have to take responsibility for the things that individuals post, they
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will not exist anymore.
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It's the equivalent of them breaking a toy that someone won't let them play with because
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it's the other person's toy and the last time they played together you punched them in the
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face.
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That's the mentality that they're operating from.
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If it does work, though, Trump will have done his only service to humanity.
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Destroying all of these companies.
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Destroying Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube.
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Destroying the internet, quite frankly.
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Because if these rules are broadly interpreted, that'll have an effect of basically disabling
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all manners of message boards or online community.
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Once a person running a place has to assume responsibility for everything anyone posts
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in their space, it's no longer worth it to open spaces up for communication.
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Also, a whole lot of people are really only still on social media because the individual
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companies aren't responsible for what they post.
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If anything, removing that protection will only result in way, way more strict content
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rules than we have now.
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This will backfire like crazy, but also it will never stand up in court.
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It's not possible.
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No.
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This is not going to do anything.
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It's done.
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It's done.
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I really hate everybody.
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The media has failed us on a level that is incomprehensible.
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But even though legally this is questionable and probably won't work out, it's a stupid,
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short-sighted, authoritarian in nature move and it ultimately has nothing to do with Alex's
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supposed lobby.
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No, of course not.
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Twitter put a fact check on Trump's tweet and it was a very clear instance of electoral
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misinformation.
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Trump got mad about it.
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So now he's using the apparatus of the state to retaliate against a private company.
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Which is constitutional.
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And it's really something that libertarian-ass Alex should be super against.
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Libertarians love that.
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Yeah, love it.
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Oh, well.
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Yeah, use the federal government to force a private business to do your bidding.
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I don't understand what's wrong with that.
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Yeah, probably nothing.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has these predictions, this doomy vibe, real doomy.
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He's talking about how they're going to kill Trump.
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Sure.
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He actually has a specific prediction about it.
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On a day?
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No.
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But the method.
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And it's one to write down because I don't think it's going to come true.
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But here are some of the predictions that he's got going.
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All right.
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So race war.
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They're going to have women come out and say Trump raped him.
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They're going to try to kill the president.
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Already did.
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And they're going to have, I think China's going to move on Hong Kong.
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Already did.
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Or they are moving on him, but I mean, they're saying they may invade.
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So you got that going on.
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So these are like kind of the normal predictions Alex has.
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It's sort of what feels like preemptive damage control and just standard stuff.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of meaningless blabber.
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But that last part's interesting.
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Alex says that China's going to move in on Hong Kong, which he is against.
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And I wonder, does he not know that the Trump administration just certified that Hong Kong
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is no longer considered autonomous from China?
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Does Alex not realize that Mike Pompeo came out and just declared that this Wednesday?
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Is Alex really that unaware of the real world that he doesn't realize that his team has
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already signaled that they view Hong Kong as part of China, most likely as a way to
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ratchet up tensions with China and put in sanctions?
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This is critically important to understand.
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Alex doesn't know anything.
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No.
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Nothing.
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Nothing.
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He doesn't bring that up.
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No, but they're going to move on him soon.
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Cool.
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That's the trick.
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I don't know what that means.
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They're going to move on them.
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I don't know what that means.
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Like a bitch.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So let's talk about some of Alex's feelings about the killing of George Floyd.
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Now, one of the things that I wanted to bring up is, first of all, the way Alex pivots the
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narratives and brings up, like, consider the abortions is something that is explicitly
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and specifically done on his show in order to minimize non-white victims of violence.
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That is one thing that is very important and I think is essential that we highlight in
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terms of this coverage.
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The second comes up in this clip.
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The point is, though, that the natural instinct, when you see somebody begging for their life
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and they're killed for no reason, is to go out as a military and say, well, what is it
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I see?
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Well, it's uniforms or these are white people.
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That's at least the first step to understanding the new world order.
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I'm not endorsing anybody, I think it's terrible, but at least the first level of fighting back
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is there.
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And if I can get that first level and point it at the real enemy that's engineered all
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of this, and if people politically stand up and say no and verbally stand up and say no
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and aggressively put the type of energy into politics and life that it takes to go burn
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down a building or attack the police, well, our problems will be over very, very quickly.
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So what's interesting about this is I think this is how Alex thinks he acts.
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I think all the time you think that's what you when he says we should go after them politically,
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you think he thinks that...
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No, no, no.
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I think that Alex might believe that this is how he always reacts to situations like
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this, but it's only true when there's white on black crime.
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That's what I'm saying.
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I mean with that, he's like, we need to kill these people and find them in their home politically.
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Like that kind of thing he thinks is the same as being like, if you guys put all of that
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revolutionary energy into just really engaging with the political process, he thinks that's
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all the time.
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Somewhat.
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What I mean more is that this response to, hey, you see someone do something really bad
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to an innocent civilian and what you do is you respond to these markers about them like
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they're white or they're a cop, but what you need to do is focus, see, it's good that you
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get mad about that, but you need to focus that right at the globalist.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Alex is pretending that those, that is the way he behaves universally and it is not true.
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Like I said, this is only true of cases where there's white on black crime.
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See, it's okay for China to commit a genocide.
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Sure.
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He absolutely doesn't encourage people to look past the race or position of the perpetrator
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when there's a situation with a white victim and a non-white person to point the finger
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at.
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In those cases, he's very much about seeing who did something and indicting an entire
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group.
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When Kate Steinle died, Alex created an entire imagined storyline about an evil immigrant
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who saw her and her dad and then killed her because he thought that the dad was her boyfriend
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and he was jealous that he couldn't be with this beautiful white woman.
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Alex covered this story dishonestly and racistly for months, despite evidence coming out in
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trial that completely contradicted his made up version of the story and at no point was
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the point to look past the identity of the person being blamed for the death and focus
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on the globalists.
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When Alex was covering the story, he was doing so to agitate specifically against immigrants,
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documented or not, and he used the entirely fabricated version of it that his perverted
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mind dreamt up as a weapon against a vulnerable community.
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It's important to understand this.
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Alex sounds so conciliatory and like he's above the fray when he's here on air saying
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that it's sad that Floyd died, but we need to not get bogged down in who did it and focus
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on the evil globalists.
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That's part of Alex's trick.
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It's a misdirection, and it's so obvious when you consider how these stories get covered.
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To refresh your memory, here's a little clip of Alex covering Kate Steinle's death, making
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up details and editorializing like crazy.
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So
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a white person. She just kept saying, Dad, help me, help me.
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She fought for her life but died. Hey, isn't it going to be better when all the whites are dead?
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I mean, white people aren't inherently bad?
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So, you see the complete difference. There is an absolute, I don't know, I want to come up with a $5 word for essential difference.
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Quintessential.
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Sure, go for it. There is just a structural difference in the way these things are presented.
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And make no mistake, in that episode, back when he was covering that death, Alex was singularly focused on the identity of the man he had decided was guilty,
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complaining about how no headlines about the case brought up that he was an undocumented immigrant.
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When there was a single popping sound in the ear, we don't call this Son of Sam murders and top story anymore.
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It's not a Sam, he was a white guy. He was Jewish. No, no, no, this is an illegal God.
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And so, she fell to the ground. He's never called an illegal alien, by the way, you notice the headline.
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She fell to the ground. Well, I mean, according to the, I mean, she's white.
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Alex is not above the fray. He's not above the right-left paradigm.
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He just pretends to be because that tricks idiots into thinking that he's coming from some place of a moderate mind and reasonable ideas,
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which helps him indoctrinate them into extreme right-wing racist ideology, and more importantly, his supplement line.
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This is part of the gigantic trick that Alex plays, and when you think about, like, how much mileage he got out of people being like,
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yeah, man, sure, sure, he hates Obama, but he hated Bush, too.
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It's like, okay, what you're trying to imply is that he's somewhere in the middle and he calls out everybody.
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No, he hated Bush because Bush wasn't far-right enough.
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And he hated Obama because he was black. The end.
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That kind of distills in, like, Alex really wants to, in these situations, like when there is a very obvious case of a white police officer killing an unarmed black man,
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and he can't deny it, he can't make up a story about it, he can't do anything like that, he has to rely on this, hey, we gotta be above this.
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You gotta be above it. Don't fall for the globalist's tricks.
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And then when the situation is the opposite, it's let's get all immigrants out of the country, they're just jealous of beautiful white people.
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Oh, they're so illegal and they're amazing.
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If you understand that difference, it goes a long way towards understanding the way that Alex builds his content,
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and how he hides the true character of what he does, what he believes, and what he wants his audience to,
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I mean, I would assume he wants them to get from his show.
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I guess that might be a little much for me to assume, but that's what it seems like to me.
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I don't know, on another level he's really just kind of bilking racists out of their money, so there's that angle, too.
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I mean, I don't know. He's also spreading the worst fucking vitriol that will get people killed that I can think of.
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I'm not sure I take a whole lot of solace in bilking racists out of money as like, hey, it's fine.
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Nah, I don't take any solace.
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Because then that money is getting centralized.
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I don't take any solace in that.
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So this was really bad. It's bad, but it was really illuminating to go through this again,
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and really have the hindsight of going through the Kate Steinle situation,
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and going through the Charleston shooting with Alex's coverage to be able to compare these things to.
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And I think that when you do look at those sorts of situations, you start to see things in a more robust way.
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And it's tragic, it's awful, the real life situation, and it's tragic and awful the way Alex behaves.
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Now, to make things into a farce, here's what Alex does with the rest of the show.
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All right, let me plug for this hour, then we'll come back and take your calls ahead of a special-
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For the hour?
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We'll continue with calls.
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You know, the guy that did the take on my wear my sunglasses at night?
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Well, on the COVID-19, excellent piece, he's got a new piece.
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He'll be premiering here with us today as well.
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So he's cheating on Carpe Donkdom, and he's found a new meme guy.
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There's a guy who did a cover of Corey Hart's I Wear My Sunglasses at Night, but about wearing a mask.
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Cool. Cool. Cool. We're doing musical comedy now. That's what we're doing.
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We're doing shitty right-wing Weird Al. Great.
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It only goes for half an hour, because there is zero chemistry between these two dudes.
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Alex doesn't get, or I think he might get that the dude is trying to do some bits, but Alex can't keep up with him.
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No.
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It's really bad. So like I told you earlier, before he gets to this stupid interview with this dumb, dumb meme guy,
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Alex has a specific prediction about the attempt to kill Trump.
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Yes.
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And so mark this down, and when this doesn't happen, Alex will pretend he never said it.
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And I think, yeah, that's how they'll get Trump is in improvised explosive devices that have already been buried in hundreds of spots months ago
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with operatives inside construction crews on normal construction routes.
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The Secret Service should, I think you probably thought of this, route the president around any recent construction sites the last six months.
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I'm serious.
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And obviously they got decoy helicopters and a lot of other things, but I don't say it has to be dramatic, folks.
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They're going to try to kill Trump.
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Okay. Seems a little dramatic. Decoy helicopters, huh?
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And we got a bunch of landmines at construction sites over the last couple of months.
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Of course.
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We've been burying all these IEDs around.
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Yeah. Why wouldn't we?
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Why wouldn't they just put one?
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Don't worry about it.
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Because you don't want to, look, you got to have some flavor.
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You know, like, of course, if you put hundreds of IEDs around, the only person who will be affected by those is Trump.
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Everybody knows that.
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I honestly think if you have the ability to coordinate multiple IEDs being buried at active construction sites, it doesn't seem like you need to go through this much trouble.
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No, it's just not that hard.
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You know, keep it simple stupid really does apply to assassinations as well.
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I really feel like Alex Jones just, like, his brain just comes up with Rube Goldberg-type schemes.
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Of course.
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And maybe shouldn't have.
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Okay, so what's going to happen is one of those decoy helicopters is going to create just enough wind to start a chain reaction of dominoes that are going to gradually get bigger.
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Have you ever seen the ones that start real small and then they get all the way up to the big ones?
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You know what I think happened?
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That's cool.
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I think that when Alex was stuck under that house that was getting fumigated, the only thing he had down there was a game of mousetrap.
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He just got real fucked up on those fumes.
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It was an improvised entertainment device at that point.
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Oh!
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So, now we get to this meme dork.
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Sure.
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And his name is Media Bear.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Why is my life this?
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Why is my life this?
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What a rollercoaster this episode is.
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I just want to die. I just want to die.
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Yep. So, this is really interesting because there is no way I believe that Alex wrote this intro.
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Sure.
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This is not at all in his normal patois.
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Okay.
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This is absolutely, this guy's scripted.
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He's like, here's what you say to introduce me.
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Well, rarely does an adaptation or a cover surpass the original, but I have to say Sunglasses at Night, a song by Canadian singer Corey Hart, has been eclipsed by Media Bear.
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Our next guest is an example of dutiful preparation met with...
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Dutiful.
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That is...
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Dutiful.
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That is a PR.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Alex is, it almost feels like he has a gun to his head.
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Yeah, I know.
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I'm surprised he made it through dutiful.
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Also, by the way, not hard to outdo Corey Hart's I Wear My Sunglasses at Night.
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Hey, come on. That's a classic.
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Everyone sings that song on purpose.
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Not very good.
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So they talk about this meme, this video that he's got, I don't really give a shit, but Alex keeps trying to get into like substance with him.
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It's really sad.
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Well, they're in the news saying gunshot wounds, car wrecks, mountain climbing accidents, everything is COVID.
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Good luck finding flu statistics for this year.
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Well, they admit there's no flu deaths. It's all been moved over to this column.
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So again...
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That's not true.
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Also, you know what?
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I'd like to correct Media Bear.
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When he says good luck finding flu statistics, what he should be saying is, I don't know how to find them.
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There you go.
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Because that's really what he's expressing.
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I found them.
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They're very easy to find.
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Oh, yeah?
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Where did you find them?
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Just by looking for them.
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It took a very short amount of time compared to other things I look into.
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Oh, fair.
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Fucking idiot.
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Like, I don't...
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Like, I understand.
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He's a troll.
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Like, you go to his YouTube page and in his About, it says shit poster.
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Right.
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You can't take him too seriously.
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Right, right, right.
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But it's like, come on, man.
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Alex, you should know better.
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But, whatever.
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Why aren't people answering questions that we totally know the answers to, but I would have to Google search them first?
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Right.
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Go fuck yourself, Media Bear.
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Yeah.
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Enjoy, enjoy...
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Media Bear.
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Get the fuck out of my life.
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You know what time it is for you?
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I'll give you a clue.
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It's a fucking Sugar Ray album's title.
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It's 1459.
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Your 15 minutes is over.
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And it barely even started.
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I made a fucking dumb right-wing Corey Hart cover.
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All right.
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You're having too much ska fun right now.
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I need you to...
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I don't know if Sugar Ray was ska.
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No, I meant that in the larger sense of ska fun.
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Oh, ska fun.
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I forgot that I coined that phrase earlier.
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So, Media Bear's a bit of a jokester.
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Sure.
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So, he's wearing a mask throughout the entire interview.
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And Alex starts wearing a mask to sort of play along.
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So, before this, in the commercial break, as they were going out to commercial, Media
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Bear decided to start doing a bit where a contact tracer showed up at his house to tell
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him that he had come in contact with someone who tested positive.
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Okay.
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But Alex didn't know what was going on.
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So, they rushed...
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We got a set piece.
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They rushed to break because Alex was confused.
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We got a set piece.
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Yes.
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Oh, man.
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It was a disaster.
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Of course.
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It did not go well.
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Of course.
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And so, now they tried to revisit it after the break.
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Well, you know, I'm glad that you mentioned that.
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Before the last break, I had a contact tracer knock on my door.
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And they said...
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I saw that happen.
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I'm a hero.
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Yeah.
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They...
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It's...
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I'm just busy being a hero right now.
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Oh, I'm a hero.
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Oh.
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Oh.
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Oh.
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God.
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I don't know if that...
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I haven't been congregationd yet.
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No.
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talking about, you know, like a Paul F.
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Hartman, Paul F.
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Tompkins. We're talking about the glue
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guys. We're talking about the guys who
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can really set them up for you to knock
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them down.
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Exactly. Alex Jones on that list, for
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sure.
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I can't think of anybody who's taken
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like a stage one Second City class
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and hasn't had that guy in my class.
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Like, oh, I got this voucher
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from my business because they said I
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wasn't a very good public speaker.
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It's that I'm the funniest guy in the
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office.
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It's the Michael Scott kind of thing
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in the office.
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Yeah, brutal.
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Who I
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almost can't think of things
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that are like what is
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like defining viscerally
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like the exact feeling
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of no chemistry.
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Yeah, it's that it's
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just like these
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two. I feel like Media
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Bear doesn't like Alex.
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I feel like Alex doesn't like him.
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It's just trash.
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There's Hayden Christensen and
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Natalie Portman.
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And then there's that.
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There's also a farce to it, like I
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said, in that, like, first
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of all, but there's giant
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stuff going on.
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That's pretty important.
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And Alex is spending a half hour
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talking to this dick about a meme.
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And then he hangs up on him.
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I think it probably ended early.
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And he goes to calls and most of
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these calls are stupid.
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But there is one.
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And it's our last clip of the
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episode. And this caller
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thinks that the best thing Trump
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can do is rehire Flynn,
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Michael Flynn, will piss people
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off. That will piss people off.
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That's true.
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And then Alex's response to that is
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pretty telling.
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And, you know, a lot of things
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that really get to him is like
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with Flynn, who cares what's going
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on with the corrupt judge and all
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the other crap, hire him back
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immediately.
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Would have been a role and give
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him a title.
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No, I agree.
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Hire Flynn back and make him chief
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of staff and then just bring in the
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whole military.
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Exactly.
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It's not the military is perfect,
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but let me tell you, Trump brings
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in the military.
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They're loyal to America.
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They're going to do what they're
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told.
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The lawyers out.
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Exactly.
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Get away all the little corrupt
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pieces of social trash that we don't
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need in that environment.
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So Alex and this caller just sort
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of commiserating about how their
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ideal situation is
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military coup.
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Yep. No big deal.
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Kicking all the bureaucrats out
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and replacing them with military
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people that will follow Trump's
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order. Historically speaking, that's
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worked out great.
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Alex loves the Republic.
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Oh, man.
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This guy is the worst.
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This guy is the fucking worst.
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This is the worst.
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Yep.
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Real bummed out.
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It's a real bummer.
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Yeah.
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So, you know,
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that's been the week.
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I really feel incomplete about
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this a little bit.
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And I think the reason is because
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the circumstances are ongoing
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with the situation
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in Minneapolis.
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And like
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even as we're recording now,
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things are probably happening that
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are relevant.
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And by tomorrow, Alex
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will have his Friday show that will
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be going over stuff and
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it'll feel very immediate, but we
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can't get to it till Monday.
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And so part of me was honestly
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considering holding off on this
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until Monday.
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But ultimately, I just thought, like,
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we got to take
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care of this.
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Lest we get way behind
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and ignore a lot of Alex's horrible
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bullshit.
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Horrible, horrible bullshit.
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This guy is, I mean,
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I don't know. I don't know.
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I don't know what to say.
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I don't know what to say sometimes,
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but
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I guess tragedy
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plus time. Yeah, man.
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Minus time equals
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this equals that.
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I would say.
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You know, the feeling that I have is
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very similar to feelings
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that I have had a number of times,
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kind of like just an overwhelming
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sense of like, it's amazing
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that we've let this get to this
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point. I mean, not just not just the
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whole world, even though that does
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apply to that. Right.
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But even specifically with
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Alex, it's so amazing
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to me that, like,
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he hasn't just blown
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up already, like there hasn't
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been the end of his career already.
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Right. It's just it's
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it's fascinating.
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Well, I think it's I mean,
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the worst the worst thing I had a bit
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all the way back in 2015
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about how
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how Trump I thought it was very
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funny and it turned out to be
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absolutely true.
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But it was it was the idea of
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like it used to be one scandal
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would take you down.
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But the trick is, if you do a new
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one every day, nobody can catch
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up to you.
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And it seems like Alex has that kind
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of thing going on for him, too,
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where it's like, sure, he committed
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a fucking felony two weeks
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ago, but he's already on some new
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bullshit. I don't have time to go
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back and deal with that.
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Yeah, but a lot of that stuff
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will will end up catching up with
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him. You hope I think
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I don't know if he gets his military
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dictatorship.
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Who the fuck knows?
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That's a good point.
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I meant catch up to Alex.
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Not so much Trump.
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Yeah, I know.
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That's what I'm saying about Alex,
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too. If Trump gets his military
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dictatorship, who knows what will
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catch up to him?
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Maybe perhaps I probably should
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have mentioned this at the beginning
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of the episode, but I forgot because
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of issues.
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But I think it would be
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important for us to point out this.
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There was a resolution in his
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bankruptcy case that we brought up,
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and it turns out that the court
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ruled that
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Alex was entitled to summary judgment
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in dismissing the involuntary
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bankruptcy.
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And the reason for that, given
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in this, is that the
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the amount that he owes
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his ex-wife, which is about seven
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hundred eighty six thousand dollars,
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according to what the claims
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are, is less
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than the amount that is
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the value of the property that is
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backing that amount that
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he owes her.
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So it's secured by this property
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that is worth more than that amount.
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And for that reason, you can't force
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someone into involuntary bankruptcy
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because what's securing the debt
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could cover that.
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Sure. So he's got to sell the
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house.
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Probably.
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And maybe that's why he's been
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talking about selling the house to
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begin with. Right.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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But from my reading of this and from
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what I can understand, there isn't
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so much a contesting
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of the amount.
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Right.
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It's just that he can't be forced
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into involuntary bankruptcy for an
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amount that his
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property that is backing it is greater
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than. Right.
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I want to point that out, because we
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have brought that case up in the past
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and speculated about it a little bit.
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Yeah. And so it would be wrong of us
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not to point that out.
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That's why I wanted to bring it up at
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the beginning of the episode, because
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I wanted to make, but everybody who
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listens to the episode probably
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listens to episodes, I would think.
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We'll see.
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Anyway, we don't have any
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ads for other podcasts.
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No, that's true.
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Most people don't turn it off at that
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point. Fingers crossed.
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Yeah. So, Jordan, we'll be back.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's KnowledgeFight.com.
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Yep. We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at Knowledge Underscore Fight
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and at Go To Bed Jordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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We have downloads.
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And if you can, please donate
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to the Minneapolis funds
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for bail and everything of the sort.
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We'll be back. But until then, I'm
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Neo. I'm Leo.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work. I love you.