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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating knowledgefight.com

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It's time to pray I have great respect for knowledgefight

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Stop it, Andy and Can- Andy and Kansas It's time to pray

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us

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Hello Alex, I'm a big fan, I'm a huge fan I love your room

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knowledgefight knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledgefight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh indeed we are, Dan

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Jordan

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Dan

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Jordan

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Quick question

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What up

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What's your bright spot today?

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My bright spot I guess is I've been going back and listening to a little bit of old stuff

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that I haven't listened to in a long time

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What kind of old stuff?

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Old music, like there's stuff like Blackstar, you know Mos Def and Talib Kweli

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, I know

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And high-tech Kweli, the Reflection Eternal album

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That one's great

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Like those two albums are things that I listened to almost non-stop when I was, you know, 20

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But because of that they got so played out that I couldn't listen to them

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Right

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I just listened to it so much and like so it's been the better part of a decade probably since

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I've put one of those albums on

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Yeah

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And the other day I was exercising and I put on, I was like I wonder if this is as good as I remember

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And a lot of it is, like that distance of not having listened to it

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Yeah

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In a long time

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Yeah, yeah

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Made me able to listen to it again and I appreciated that, that was kind of nice

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Yeah, last year on a related note, last year I listened to Black on Both Sides for the first

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time in like 10 years and I was like holy shit this is so good

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Yeah it's good, it's nice to have those moments where I can go back a little bit to something

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that maybe I couldn't enjoy as much as I originally did because of overexposure to it

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So that was nice

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How about you?

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My bright spot is that the weather in Chicago is for the first time in

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a goddamn nearly nine months, pretty nice out

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Yeah

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It's pretty nice, took a bunch of walks today

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Nice

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It's great and then because we live in a cave underground you come back and it's

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nice and cool inside, it's fantastic

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That is pretty nice

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That's perfect

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I'm glad you're enjoying that, I hope people don't enjoy it too much though

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I'll get bored with it tomorrow

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No, I mean I hope they don't enjoy it too much in terms of just going around and everybody

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ending up at the park and sneezing on each other

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So that's good, that's fun, nice bright spots

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Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to do

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All right

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We're going to be talking about May 12th and 13th 2020 of Dan's 2020

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Goddammit

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Now that would be Tuesday and Wednesday of this week, I wanted to throw Thursday in but

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it was impossible because this episode infuriated the shit out of me

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All right, that's good

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I'm going to give you two pieces of spoiler in advance for what will come up on this episode

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Okay

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One is another round of my favorite game which is Alex says he's going to prove something

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All right

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And then tries to

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You love it

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I love when he does that

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It's always disappointing, I never should get my hopes up

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No, ever

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But that happens and then Alex makes a reveal of one of the biggest fucking lies and one

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of the funniest lies I think I've ever heard him tell

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All right

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And I, there's no way that I could tease it and it not live up to like being one of the

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most absurd things you could ever imagine

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All right, you've over teased things in the past

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And they've always paid off

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Never, they have always paid off

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So we're going to get down to business on that but before we do you take a moment to

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say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show and to check in with

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the year of the seltzer

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Of course

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So first, Kevin H, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you, Kevin H

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Next, Sirius, and it's spelled S-E-R-I-A-A-S, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you, Sirius

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Wise hose

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Oh no, get out of here

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Next, Andy, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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Thanks, Andy

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Thank you

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Next, Cade, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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Thanks, Cade

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Thanks Sam

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Blergh of the Month.

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Thank you.

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Subscribes to you one year. It was pretty good.

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Thanks. And then, thank you to a couple of folks who signed up on an elevated level. We appreciate that very much.

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So, Drew L. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. And this one, I'm not sure if it's nips or knips. K-N-I-P-P-S.

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Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright? Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, Drew L. And thank you so much, knips.

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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.

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Yes. So, Jordan, here the Seltzer March is on. We are in week four now.

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Week four.

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Week four.

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Coming in on the end of what you would describe as the first month.

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Right.

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We are officially at 65 Seltzers down.

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And this week I made a discovery of something I remember liking from my childhood or younger years, and that was Canadian, clearly Canadian Seltzers.

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Clearly Canadian, yes. We purchased it together, yes, I recall.

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And I got to say, never have I found a more rangy beast than clearly Canadian.

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Ah, you haven't had strangely Australian yet.

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No, that's true. That is coming up.

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Yeah, okay.

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So I found three varieties.

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Yeah.

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We have the Country Raspberry.

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Okay.

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Wild Cherry.

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Right.

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Mountain Blackberry.

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Okay.

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Country Raspberry, pretty good.

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All right.

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Coming in at a 69.

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Right.

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Out of 100.

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Okay.

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I knew something was up because I looked at the bottle of the Clearly Canadian and it said, Sparkling Water Beverage.

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Would you need to say Water Beverage?

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I don't know what you're doing anymore.

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What I didn't realize is that Clearly Canadian definitely has, like, sweetening.

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Yeah.

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There's sugar in it or something.

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Okay, okay.

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But the Country Raspberry was tolerable.

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And same with the Mountain Blackberry.

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It was all right.

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Okay.

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Wild Cherry, there was something wrong with that.

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There was something wrong with it.

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It was so bad.

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The cherry was too wild?

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It might have got...

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It was a raucous cherry.

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Okay.

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That fellow's coming in at 22.

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Oh, 22 is bad.

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I had a viscerally negative reaction to it.

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What, did you break out in hives?

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I might have.

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Yeah.

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I started listening to the hives.

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Oh, get the fuck out.

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Better than I remember.

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That's worse.

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I don't remember what their song was.

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Exactly.

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But yeah, so Clearly Canadian, it's not like they're incapable of something fine.

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Sure.

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Because that Country Raspberry was pretty good.

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Right.

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But that Wild Cherry, you got to get rid of that flavor.

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Okay.

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It was trash.

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Letter writing campaign on par with Klondike Doughnut Bars.

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Yes.

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We got to get in there.

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Absolutely.

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So this has been the Year of the Seltzer.

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We'll check back in next time and find out what we find out.

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Let's do it.

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So, Jordan, we got this May 12th and 13th episode to go over.

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It's going to be a bumpy ride and here is an out of context drop from today's show.

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Last week around the table, we all joined hands.

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My wife and Rex was over visiting.

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He's already moved out.

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We all joined hands and prayed for Rush Limbaugh.

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God, we don't need to lose him.

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Man.

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Can you imagine feeling like, oh man, we got to direct our spiritual energy towards saving Rush Limbaugh.

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It would be such a weird feeling to be around the dinner table and just like, you know,

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dear Heavenly Father, look after Rush Limbaugh.

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Excuse me.

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Hold on.

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One second.

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What was that, Dad?

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I guess it's a little less surreal because Alex is in the same field as him.

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So it's kind of like they're contemporaries or something.

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But still, being like Alex's son, praying for Rush Limbaugh would be just fucking weird.

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Here's my prayer for Rush Limbaugh.

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Lord, I remain totally neutral and whatever you decide to do to him, you know, that's on you.

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Do what you're going to do.

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Yeah.

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So we start off the show and there's a bit of random nonsense at the beginning of this.

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Alex is talking about how like if you see through the globalist's plan, you understand it really easily.

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But most people don't see through it like himself.

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Sure.

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And then he has a very strained metaphor that he tries to make.

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But for anyone that actually studies the globalist and how they operate and what their endgame is

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and what makes them tick and what their philosophy and ethos is, this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

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It's like two plus two equals four.

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It's absolutely elementary, my dear Watson.

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But you've got to have the courage to admit what's coming at you.

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And I liken it as an allegory or an analogy.

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Oh, no.

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To most big comets and asteroids that end up being found aren't found by the big radio telescopes.

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They're not found by the big observatories.

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Most of them are found by the millions of amateur astronomers that have high powered equipment now thanks to capitalism.

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So that probably sounds pretty good to Alex.

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Is that a parable?

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I don't know.

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We'll get to, there is an extended metaphor he's trying to make, but he gets really distracted because he starts talking about the capitalism allowing amateur astronomers and shit.

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Sure, why?

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But what he's saying isn't true.

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Amateur astronomers do not discover most of the near-Earth objects that are found each year.

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And in fact, they barely even make a dent in the tally.

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That's why it's always a big story when an amateur does discover one, which gets a lot of press and leads people like Alex to assume that this must be always the case.

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If professionals at the big telescopes were finding comets all the time, how come I only read headlines about amateurs finding them?

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You can easily see how that selection bias that Alex's brain uses to land on a narrative.

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That's what's going on.

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He doesn't do any research on the topic.

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He decides what he's just thought up was true.

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And then he reports it to his audience as fact.

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It's very sloppy work.

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As the CEO of McDonald's starts slinging burgers one day, everybody's going to be like,

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Holy shit, mother fucker!

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But the day-to-day people who work there are like,

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Shut up and do your fucking job.

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One of the things that makes headlines is the anomaly.

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The case that is not like the others, but if you only see headlines that are pointing out the anomaly, you'll think the anomaly is the normal thing.

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And a lot of this perception that amateurs find more than the professionals, it's probably partially due to the fact that hail bop was found by amateurs.

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That high-profile nature of that story could have easily left people with a different perception than is real.

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According to a 2015 paper co-written by members of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the Minor Planet Center, and the Universities of Hawaii and Helsinki,

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quote, from 1998 through 2013, only about 1.8% of the 10,044 discovered near-Earth objects were found by the amateur community.

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Okay.

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It's not what Alex thinks.

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Alright, it's a minority majority.

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Right.

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I understand.

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Sure.

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Compared to me, they discover more.

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That's true.

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See, there you go!

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Fair enough.

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According to NASA, quote, while the NASA-supported professional astronomers discover the vast majority of near-Earth asteroids,

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amateur astronomers provide many of the follow-up observations needed to pinpoint the orbits and predict the future motions of the asteroids.

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Once a new near-Earth asteroid is discovered, the efficiency with which amateurs provide these follow-up observations allows larger professional telescope facilities to continue scanning the skies for more new discoveries.

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There is that cool professional-amateur collaboration that does go on in the field of watching the skies, but it's very, very clear that what Alex is saying is not true.

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It feels true to him, though, because he never reads past a headline about the many discoveries that are made,

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and he never reads headlines about the discoveries that are made by scientists and professionals at the labs because they don't make headlines.

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No, they're just taking credit for all that.

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What's an amateur other than, you know, like, who's to say the people at NASA aren't finding these on their off hours?

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That's still technically amateur.

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See, there you go!

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I don't know about that.

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So I think the larger point that he's trying to make is that he's the amateur astronomer who sees the metaphorical comet heading towards us, which is, of course, the globalist's evil plan.

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That's the metaphor that he's trying to make.

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As far as I follow.

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And then, like, the professionals at NASA are like the media or something.

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You know, basically, that's the broad stroke of what he's saying.

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Sure.

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I say I think that's the point because Alex really doesn't complete the metaphor yet.

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Instead, he gets lost in thought thinking about the stars.

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And in the process, he makes an admission that I find remarkable.

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Back in 1993, I had to go down to a university warehouse and pay $25,000 for a 12-inch refractor telescope that had just come out,

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that had the McDonald Observatory technology in it that had cost tens of millions of dollars, but now was miniaturized.

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And I could aim it at Jupiter, aim it at Saturn, aim it at Universe, aim it at Pluto, aim it at Venus, aim it at Mars.

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And it would track for hours through the night sky.

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Name five more planets.

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Tiny servo motors.

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I'd go out in the hill country, sometimes by myself with a six-pack of beer and spend all night looking at the stars.

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I believe some of that.

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I like that story. That's a cute little story.

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It's cute, except for some details.

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Right, well.

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Alex Jones was not Alex Jones in 1993.

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He wasn't even on the radio until 1995, and yet somehow he was able to buy a $25,000 telescope at that point in his life.

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As dad worked on the CIA's dentist.

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Astronomy isn't even something that I would consider a big interest of Alex's, based on everything I've heard from his show.

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It's not like he talks about it frequently as a hobby.

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He does talk about going to the stars a lot, but it's not like...

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You gotta look for where you're going first, and he looks at the stars all the time.

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This should give you some sense of the kind of money Alex comes from.

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Because if Alex bought a $25,000 telescope back then, it wasn't because he was making loads of cash.

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He's talked about his earlier jobs, and there were things like assisting at a vet clinic and carpet cleaning.

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By the way, that $25,000 in 1993 would be over $44,000 today, adjusted for inflation.

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So that should give you some idea of the type of purchase he's talking about on air.

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That's basically a year's salary at any of the jobs he's claiming to have had prior to getting into radio.

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Well, I remember when I was around that age, and my dad helped me get a loan for my first car that cost $2,500 that wasn't really negotiated well.

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So I think it's a very similar experience for many people to have your dad just buy you a telescope for $25,000.

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I don't think so.

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I think that's normal.

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So I would say that's pretty clear that this is either a lie or an indication that Alex's parents were super rich, and he basically just got whatever he wanted growing up.

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Pretty much.

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The specifics of this story lead me to suspect the latter, since he knows names of things.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's a lot of specifics to that story he's telling, and it looks bad.

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Yeah, that's not good.

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It makes me think it's more true, because why else would you tell the story about being before your career as a successful person?

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I pulled myself up by my bootstrap. Sure, my parents had $25,000 to drop on a telescope.

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Were you stealing laughing gas from your dad's clinic?

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That would be great. I would appreciate that more.

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So Alex continues this metaphor a little bit, and what it ends up becoming is sort of this fantasy where, again, I think those analogs that I was saying, like he's the amateur astronomer, that kind of thing.

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This is where he sort of tells a story about it, and I think that this is kind of sad.

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The establishment isn't really looking. They're just posing like they're scientifically curious.

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He's talking about the people in the telescopes. They're not really looking, because the amateurs find everything.

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Right, right.

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What?

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Pluto's not even a planet anymore, bro.

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It's now past Pluto. It's coming in at a million miles an hour, and it's going to get here in six months.

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And you go tell your local news, you tell the FBI, you tell the local astronomer club, and they laugh at you.

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But more people begin to aim their telescopes up at the sky, and they pick it up, and they see it coming in.

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Then you ask the question, how did all the government and industry observatories not see this?

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How did the CIA not see this? How did NASA not see this?

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And then you come to the realization, oh my God, they know this planet's coming in to our solar system.

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Why did they make the decision not to tell us?

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And then you come up with the realization with the mathematicians that it's going to hit Earth.

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So you do need professionals?

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Oh my God, they don't want us to panic.

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But if we panic, we can put spacecraft out there and go out and meet it with nuclear weapons and blow it up.

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This is the plot of the fifth element.

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This is the fifth element. They want humanity to die.

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And then you look at that planet a little bit closer, and you notice it's got an ion trail behind it.

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This is the fifth element.

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It's got a propulsion system behind it, and it's not a planet.

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Alex, you just watched the fifth element.

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It's a planet aimed at Earth to kill us. It's an alien attack.

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And then you look at your leaders and you say, where's Mila?

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Why are you doing this? Now, that's an allegory.

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The Jones believes that ten planets come and kill the Earth and aliens run it.

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No, I don't believe that.

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I think that he hoped someone would make that headline.

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Yeah, totally, totally.

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I want to applaud Alex, though, because on some level, that's a coherent metaphor for what he's trying to say.

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He usually isn't capable of that.

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Right.

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Because all of it more or less tracks the point that he's trying to make.

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The planet that's coming in is the globalist planet.

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Sure, sure.

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He's the amateur astronomer who finds it, talks about it.

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He talks about it. The media makes fun of him because they're in on it.

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They know that the globalist planet is coming and they want it to come.

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No, I get it.

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The other people who pick up and start looking at the planet are the people who he's indoctrinated into his cult.

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Right.

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And the conspiracy theory followers that he has.

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Right, right, right.

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The planet having a motor on it is, you know, whatever.

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That's the fifth element.

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It's a false flag.

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It's the fifth element.

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Where it comes from or anything like that, I don't...

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No, I understand it does track.

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It makes sense.

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It does.

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Alex usually is not capable of that.

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That's true.

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I applaud him.

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Okay.

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It's faint praise, but in terms of it like, I get what you're saying.

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He usually gets so lost, and Grant, he did get lost in that a little bit, but he usually

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falls completely off track before he's able to make something kind of make sense.

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Right, right, right.

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So I like that.

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And even, you know, a pitcher can bat 085, you know.

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Somebody can hit a ball every now and again.

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Yeah.

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So, unfortunately, even if the metaphor holds, there's some holes in his thinking.

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Yeah.

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For instance, what if you're an amateur astronomer and you find an asteroid you insist is new,

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and of course it's on its way to hit Earth, and when you tell the professionals about

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it, they don't take you seriously because they've known about this asteroid that you

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think you've discovered, and the calculations you made about its orbit are wrong.

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I imagine you might respond to that by lashing out and saying that they're just trying to

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cover up your work, but it's also possible that you did a bad job of seeking asteroids

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and they're just not impressed with what you bring to the table.

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Or what if you tell astronomers that an asteroid you found is secretly an alien attack, as

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evidenced by some weird engine you imagine you found, and then they take a look at your

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evidence and tell you that you're mistaken, that's a rock formation and you think it's

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a jet engine, and that your imagination is fun, but you're just making things up.

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I think you're being judgmental.

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I'm extending his metaphor.

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I'm jumping into his metaphor and playing around with it, is what I'm doing.

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I can see what's going on here.

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I can't usually do that because his metaphors make no sense, but in this case I can actually

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engage with it a little bit, and I think that even in the hypothetical realm that he's talking

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about, you can clearly see how like, oh, no, you didn't find an asteroid.

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No.

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You just think this is an asteroid because you don't understand astrology.

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Gary Oldman isn't coming for you, man.

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$25,000 telescopes will not give you an understanding of space.

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You still need to learn.

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I don't know if that's true.

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I don't know if that's true.

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What if I just believe?

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Maybe.

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Yeah.

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So, in this next clip, Alex teases that he's got some inside baseball about Trump coming up.

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You know, I thought about talking about the president, what really goes on in the White

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House, from my sources to give you a bird's eye view or a fly on the wall view into just

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how interesting Trump is.

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He watches TV and eats junk food.

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Shut up, asshole.

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I don't even know if I can do it justice because it's actually a lot of it's critical of the

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president, but then a lot of it's positive of the president.

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You know what?

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Last segment of this hour, remind me to do it, guys.

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I will.

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I'll tell you what's really going on with Trump.

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It's very, very sad.

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It's very, very pathetic.

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It's also very, very empowering and real.

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Globalist or poisoning his diet cokes.

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Yep.

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That sounds about right.

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I don't think he actually does get back to this because I don't know what he's talking

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about.

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Are you sure?

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Having listened to the episode, I don't know what the reveal is there.

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I guess it is.

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I forgot to remind him or he doesn't like it when people remind him of things.

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Yeah, they could be.

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In this next clip, we get to Alex talking about how cool it is to drive fast, but he's

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not telling the story to sound cool because sounding cool is uncool.

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This is a guy who's obsessed with coolness.

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Yeah.

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I don't drive fast anymore, but I have had a car up to almost 200 miles an hour.

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It's fun.

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You just got to get on a stretch that nobody's on, like I-30 out here.

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Oh my gosh.

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Midnight out there.

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There's not a damn car.

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Three, four lanes.

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Absolutely smooth.

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Last one about 150 a while back.

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There's one hump about 20 miles south of Austin.

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And the car just goes like Duke's a hazard, man.

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Duke's a hazard.

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All right, let's stop right there.

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This is a news show.

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I don't tell these stories to act cool because acting cool is the most uncool thing there

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is.

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Oh man.

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I think that's the most uncool thing there is.

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So he's not telling stories to look cool because trying to look cool is the most uncool thing,

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so in essence, he is trying to look cool by saying that he's not telling stories to look

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cool.

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This is quite a paradox.

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Also, yeah man, back when I was like 18, I used to love driving over big humps really

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fast.

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Alex is 46.

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That's a pretty cool story.

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He's a fucking adult.

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So, anyway, this is bridging two things.

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They're driving really fast and like, ah, I'm not telling cool stories.

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That's one side of it, but the other side of it that is the cool stories is Alex talking

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about meeting all these famous people, right?

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He doesn't care about meeting famous people.

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Why would you?

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And so apparently one of them.

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The most famous thing you can do is be not famous, Dan.

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Indeed.

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So one of these famous people that Alex has had interactions with may have gotten in trouble.

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They've gotten in trouble for interacting with Alex.

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I didn't know they tried to indict Mark Cuban for meeting with me.

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He came out of the New York Times later.

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Mark Cuban released the emails of the U.S. Attorney, Southern District, threatening to

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arrest him if he put one of my films in movie theaters.

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Mark Cuban had already not done the deal.

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So this is about how Mark Cuban owned a company that was in talks to distribute the 9-11 film

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Loose Change.

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This documentary, in quotes, was not created by Alex.

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It was the work primarily of Jason Burmas and Dylan Avery, released in 2005.

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The film was considered what they called a living document, which is code for things

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and they were constantly shown to be wrong, so they had to keep re-editing the film to

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make the super embarrassing stuff not be in it.

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Yeah, that's a smart move.

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In 2007, the third version came out called Loose Change Final Cut.

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By this point, it was pretty popular property in the conspiracy theory world, and Alex signed

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on as an executive producer for the Final Cut version.

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Did they get rid of Harrison Ford's dubbing on that one?

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No.

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They're still in there.

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Oh, dammit.

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Actually, apparently, from one of the things I read, Charlie Sheen was, like, the idea

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was he was going to narrate it.

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Sure.

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Why not?

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But at that time, he had some of a career to worry about.

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Yeah.

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So Jason Burmas would go on to be one of Alex's co-hosts on Infowars in those earlier days,

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and he even had a short-lived show called The Infowarrior, but from everything I can

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tell, his work on Loose Change predates all of that.

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Dylan Avery, incidentally, has gone on to continue working in movies and in the industry

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and not on conspiracy documentaries, probably because that was never his goal to begin with.

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At the age of 18, Dylan Avery came upon a publication called The Terror Timeline, which

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was put together by a researcher named Paul Thompson.

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This is a collection of articles that trace the roots of Al-Qaeda, Middle East politics,

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and the forces that led up to 9-11.

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Many of the prominent early 9-11 truthers used inconsistencies that they found in these

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articles to demonstrate their conspiracy theories.

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Avery was inspired by this book to make a movie.

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According to an article in Slate, this was, quote,

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about a group of three friends who discovered a government cover-up.

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Essentially, he was going to make a fiction movie about people discovering that the government

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did 9-11, but he realized that was too expensive, so he made a documentary about the government

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doing 9-11 instead.

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Okay, so he just made The Blair Witch Project.

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Yeah, but he was into it at the time.

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Sure, sure.

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Like, he was into the conspiracies at the time.

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I'm sure the people who made The Blair Witch Project were pretty into The Blair Witch Project.

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Sure.

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So this article in Slate from 2011 was written by a guy named Jeremy Stahl, who actually

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spoke to Avery for it.

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From the article, quote, he still says he supports the movement, but he also acknowledges

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getting, quote, sucked in deeper than he should have been, into a hardcore mentality that

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it was almost too easy to get into back then because the war had just started and everybody

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was just so pissed off.

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Back then.

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When he says he still supports the movement, he means that he saw some unanswered questions

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about 9-11, but that's not what loose change was about, primarily.

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Dylan Avery was a bright, ambitious youth who channeled his energies into the world

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of conspiracy, and it's kind of heartening to know that at least to some extent he got

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out of it.

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I found a 2017 interview with him in The Outline, which has some fun lines.

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For instance, when the interviewer asks him where he gets his news, part of the answer

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is, quote, I never did rely on Infowars as a source, but I definitely don't now.

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Anyway, it's just kind of funny that the director of the movie that Alex claims as his own,

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which helped really put Alex on the map as the face of 9-11 truth movement, has moved

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on from all that and definitely thinks Alex is an idiot.

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I think we all need to grow up someday, Dylan.

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Sure.

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So one of Mark Cuban's companies was going to distribute loose change.

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Unrelatedly, the SEC was investigating Mark Cuban for insider trading.

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In the course of that investigation, Cuban released some emails that he'd received from

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a lawyer at the SEC who was talking some real mad shit about how Cuban was a, quote, anti-American

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ideologue.

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All right.

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This lawyer definitely sent these emails because of Cuban's almost distributing loose change,

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but he had nothing to do with Cuban's insider trading investigation.

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He was suspended for two weeks for his behavior and then eventually fired by the SEC for sending

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more emails to places like the Washington Post and an internal SEC email, which were

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determined to be inappropriate.

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According to a 2012 article in Reuters, this lawyer, Jeffrey Norris, won a federal appeal

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in his case that he deserved, quote, a chance to get his job back by presenting medical

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evidence that those actions won't happen again.

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See, he argued that his life situation was chaotic back when he sent those emails and

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that he'd been seeing a psychiatrist and the circumstances in his life had improved to

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the point where it wouldn't be that again.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Business Insider was able to find some internet comments that Norris made around that time

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of those emails and it kind of seems like he just particularly hated Mark Cuban, partially

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because he was a big Mavericks fan.

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In one comment, Norris suggests that Cuban threw a recent game against the Warriors for

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some financial motive.

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All right.

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It partially sounds paranoid and partially like a guy fucking around and just talking

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shit about Mark Cuban.

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It's unclear.

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I kind of like this guy.

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I got to admit, I'm not against this dude.

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If it felt like he was a little more in control of what he was doing and he wasn't in a position

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of being an SEC lawyer, I might be more inclined to enjoy it, but I get what you're saying.

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I mean, I would prefer more SEC lawyers were hatred of Mark Cuban.

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I'm fine with that.

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As long as it doesn't affect their work, whatever.

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Anyway, this lawyer had nothing to do with Cuban's SEC insider trading case, but because

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it helps heighten the myth of Alex Jones, Alex has turned it into proof that the SEC

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admitted in emails that they were threatening to indict Cuban for distributing Alex's film.

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Of course.

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Oh, that's complete bullshit.

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Of course.

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So now Jordan.

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Yeah.

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Remember I told you at the beginning of this, my tease that Alex would have my favorite

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lie.

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Mic down for this.

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Okay.

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This is breathtaking.

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Once you don't want them, they really want you.

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It's like, okay.

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In Hollywood, that is.

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Here's a $3 million deal to star in this movie.

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It's a space fantasy movie and you're a space captain.

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And I remember they told me the movie and like six years later, I'm in the theater watching

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this big, huge movie.

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And I'm like, wow, it would have been cool to play that guy.

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But, but it's like the most valuable thing in my life other than my children and doing

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the right thing.

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Well, it's not most valuable, but like for things like that, is that that's a big, giant

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franchise.

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You know, Kurt Russell was in the second one.

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I turned it down.

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How freaking cool is that, man?

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That is like incredibly valuable to me.

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That in the final equation, they were offering me major, huge movies just to join Satan.

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So I think you know what he's talking about.

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Do you know what movie he's talking about?

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Was he talking about Guardians of the Galaxy?

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He has to be.

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He has to be talking about Guardians of the Galaxy.

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I consulted Kurt Russell.

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That's the only one that can make sense.

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And I consulted his entire filmography and there's only one movie that's a sequel that

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Kurt Russell wasn't in the original and is a space fantasy movie.

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Because like Kurt Russell is also in like Escape from LA, but he was in the first one.

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Yeah, exactly.

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He was in Fast and Furious 7 and after the Fate of the Fallen or Fate of the Furious,

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whatever.

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But he wasn't like, that's not a space fantasy movie yet.

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And he was in the first soldier, but he wasn't in the second soldier.

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It's definitely Guardians of the Galaxy.

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It's Guardians of the Galaxy.

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He thinks that he was up for the Chris Pratt role in Guardians of the Galaxy.

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He thinks he's going to be Star-Lord.

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So he thinks that James Gunn was like, we don't even need to, don't audition anyone.

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Right.

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Get me Jones.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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That's pretty awesome.

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That's a, that's a delusion.

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That's a delusion.

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So the first Guardians of the Galaxy film came out in 2014.

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So presumably Alex was given this offer to star six years earlier, which would have been

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2008, which unfortunately predates the start of pre-production by about four years.

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At that point in 2008, the script for the movie hadn't even begun to be written.

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So it's pretty weird that Alex would go see a movie and then realize it's the one he was

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supposed to star in.

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Considering this movie didn't even exist as an idea at the point he's pretending he was

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offered the starring role.

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Fucking idiot.

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I love this.

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I was, I was, you know, I got this role to play this billionaire, rich playboy.

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All right.

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And he makes an iron suit.

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He goes into, he goes into Iraq or whatever and he gets captured.

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I don't know how it ends, but it turned out that guy did all right.

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I'll tell you that right now.

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They gave it to some drug addict instead of me.

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They offered me kiss, kiss, bang, bang too.

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I'm just saying.

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That was going to be Val Kilmer's role though.

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So these are the sorts of things that Alex would just keep vague.

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Like it's cool to say that you were offered movie roles.

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I still don't believe it, but I'm not going to laugh in your face about it.

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When Alex starts throwing around identifying details like this, the lie is just too egregious.

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It's so funny.

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Just imagine him making that role.

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He doesn't have the range for any of those characters, including Groot.

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He doesn't have, he couldn't do it.

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I am Groot, goddammit, I'm Groot!

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Stop, stop improvising.

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Also, according to Stylecaster, Chris Pratt only made 1.5 million for the original Carkins movie.

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Wow, he was just coming off Parks and Rec.

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He was a beloved cast member.

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He wasn't a big star yet.

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He was one of the most liked parts of Parks and Rec.

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And he'd been in a few movies already.

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Oh yeah, but he was just a TV guy.

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Come on, Alex's radio.

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He had a role, yelling into a bullhorn in a movie.

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Let's get him front and center.

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He's the draw. He's the only reason people will see this movie.

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Oh, get the fuck out of here.

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They offered Alex 3 million, then he said no, so they gave an established actor half.

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See, now this is what I'm talking about when I'm talking about labor issues in this country, Dan.

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Sure.

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I heard that and I was like, well, we're done.

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That's the episode.

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Just reimagining Guardians of the Galaxy.

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I want it.

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I mean, you might think that he could do the Michael Rooker role, but he's actually super complex.

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No, Michael Rooker is an incredible actor.

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But the character's more angry.

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Sure, I can see that.

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But there's a complexity to that anger that Alex would be incapable of translating.

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Right, who could he be in that movie?

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Nobody.

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I'm telling you, he can't be Drex.

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No, he can't be Drex.

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Gamora? No, I don't think he could pull that off.

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I don't even think he could do the opening crawl scene with Chris Pratt dancing.

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He would be distracting as an extra.

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Oh, fuck you, Alex.

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And then think about how he would be in Avengers, the endgame.

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Get the fuck out of here.

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Get the fuck out of here.

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That universe is way more fun than ours.

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Yes, it is.

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In that universe.

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That movie would be very different.

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All right, well, we've had our fun.

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Oh, man, no. I don't think I'm done yet.

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I'm just going to taste that for a while.

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I'm going to roll that around in my mouth for a little bit just to get a feel.

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When times get tough in this episode, imagine Alex with his thick-ass neck in that Chris Pratt's outfit.

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It's like a Jackson Pollock painting in here.

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So in this next clip, Alex talks about how being evil makes you physically ugly.

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And also, not being evil makes you really beautiful.

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But he points out that he's physically ugly, right?

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No, but the way he's articulating these things is gross.

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Even though what he's trying to say, I think he's saying, is there's inner beauty or something like that.

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But he unfortunately can't articulate it any other way than, hey, if there's a woman and her body's bad,

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but if she's cool, then she's beautiful.

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And the idea that you drive an old crappy car and all the rest of it, you got varicose veins on your hips,

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that isn't you. Your connection to God is you, and that's beautiful.

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And I see people that have the most wrecked, old, messed up bodies, but they've got God, their eyes are beautiful.

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I can see their spirit. They are amazing.

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And I see the most beautiful people that don't have God and their eyes are dead.

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And they're not attractive.

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It's like a woman that has God. Even her body's not that good. It doesn't matter. They're beautiful.

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A woman that serves Satan could be the most beautiful body you ever imagined.

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It's like a plastic mannequin. It's not real.

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Speaking of that, I'm not some angel. I just love justice and freedom.

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And I've got a whole other experience to give to me in this world and all the systems they have.

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It's your financial support that breaks the will of the globalist.

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So weird. So weird.

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No, that's totally the relationship that so many men have with women of just that, like,

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I want that so much, and because I can't have it, it must be evil.

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It's so awful. It's disgusting.

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It's not good, but it is interesting how quickly he just is able to turn it.

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Yeah. Hey, I'm no angel.

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I need money.

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I could use your money.

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So in this next clip, Alex discusses the COVID-19 positive cases that are in the White House and such.

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But the virus isn't real.

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But he refuses to deal with this story on its real terms,

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because I think he recognizes that the way he would cover the reality of this story would be dangerous.

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Yeah.

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Oh, but Fauci, who's self-quarantining.

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Oh, because the White House has a contagion.

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Eight Secret Service, they have thousands of meatpacking employees that tested positive.

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No one's sick, asymptomatic.

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So Alex refuses to cover the other aspects of the COVID-19 in the White House.

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Like, he's very consistently been dismissing the story as just being eight Secret Service members testing positive,

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which is bad on its own, you know, but there's more to it than that.

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There's at least two staffers in the executive branch who have tested positive,

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and one of them is Stephen Miller's wife, who's Mike Pence's press secretary.

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That's someone who would have close contact with Pence,

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who's married to someone who has close contact with everyone.

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As of May 11th, CNN was reporting that the person who Miller caught the virus from is unknown,

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which doesn't inspire confidence that the number is actually just two people.

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The White House has now mandated that staffers have to wear masks at the office,

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and apparently morale is not high.

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Trump's economic advisor, Kevin Hassett, was on Face the Nation and said,

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quote, it's scary to go to work.

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Shit is not good.

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Also, by the time Alex is on the air about this,

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the number of Secret Service members who had tested positive was 11, not 8.

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He's not doing a good job of tracking any of these stories, which is just amazing.

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He's minimizing the old news, while since last he's heard,

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even more Secret Service people have tested positive,

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and that's not even counting the 23 others who had tested positive who have since recovered.

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This is not nearly the small problem Alex is pretending it is.

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Well, if Alex were to cover - here's how Alex would cover it.

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They're killing the president. We have to act.

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Right. That's the problem of discussing some of the other details.

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You drift really quickly into insurrection territory.

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Yeah, and that's hard to get people to buy your pills

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when you're telling them to go assassinate people near the president.

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And you'd - I mean, it's tough to minimize things when you escalate to that level.

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So just keep it as, ah, there's eight Secret Service people, who cares?

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Ah, everyone's so scared.

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Yeah, Trump slurred one time, so he was like, they're poisoning the president.

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Now that the president is literally in danger of his life, he's like,

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that's eight Secret Service members.

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Well, times were different back then.

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You could yell whatever you really wanted to back then.

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You really could. Stakes were a little lower.

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Those were the days.

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And as for that stuff about the meatpacking plants,

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Alex can legit go fuck himself.

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He doesn't understand what asymptomatic cases are,

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and he's just pretending that these people aren't actually getting sick.

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There have been a bunch of deaths linked to workers at these plants,

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and Alex's bullshit is complete disrespect to these people and their families.

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People who have to go to work to continue the ability of people to have food processed.

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And he's minimizing the experience that they're having to deal with,

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and I find that abhorrent.

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Hey, sacrifice on the altar of capitalism.

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Makes me wish he was in Guardians in the Galaxy.

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Because then he wouldn't be doing this.

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Then he wouldn't be doing this.

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It would be a better world.

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Oh, man.

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So one of the big things on this episode that Alex has promised to do

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is he's going to cover Fauci's testimony in the Senate.

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Sure.

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And he doesn't do a good job of it.

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Surprise.

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We just have a little clip of this because, I mean,

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it would be exhausting to go over all of it.

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Here's Fauci announcing his reasonable martial law.

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I've said many times publicly what we have worked out is a guideline framework

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of how to safely open America again.

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Let's start it over.

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What we have worked out.

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Oh, God.

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How you safely.

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I will tell you how you're safe.

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You take a Bill Gates vaccine.

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You wear a mask and get hypoxia.

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It doesn't matter.

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All my graphs were 50 times wrong.

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You do what I say.

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We're making our move.

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Let's hear from him.

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I haven't seen this strategy in a while.

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It kind of feels like him remembering a bit he hasn't done in a while

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and just giving it a try.

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This is that old bit where he plays some video of one of his villains,

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but he also realizes that they aren't saying what he constantly says they say.

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He's built up this image of them as arch villains,

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so when he tries to actually play longer clips of them,

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he runs into the problem of them not sounding evil

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and that they're actually making their points fairly well.

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Yeah.

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Alex gets around this with constant interruptions,

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cutting off the clip over and over again

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so the listener never actually hears Fauci's words in complete sentences.

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Along with that disruption technique,

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Alex also breaks in over and over again

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to reframe the words that Fauci uses as being evil,

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and he distracts the audience with references

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to completely unrelated aspects of his conspiracy narrative,

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things that have no bearing on what Fauci's saying at all.

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Yeah, and for good measure, he calls them nerds.

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He's like, oh, nerds are going to tell me what to do.

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Bullshit.

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I'll die first!

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We've done this a bunch of times in cases when Alex has used this strategy,

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so I'm not going to drag it out here.

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It's just the same thing over and over again,

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and nothing he brings up is really new or interesting.

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It just goes on and on for like two segments of the show

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where Alex just makes himself mad listening to Fauci,

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then interrupting to do impressions and yelling his talking points.

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Yeah, he's a childhood bully.

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It's very pathetic.

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Yeah, that's bad.

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So Alex has a guest on this episode,

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and we're not actually going to talk too much about this

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because, first of all, this guy belongs more in the Project Camelot side of things,

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and I don't think his appearance is really all that interesting

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except for the fact that it happened.

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That is kind of interesting to me.

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And we have...

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Dr. Steven Greer also joining us to discuss a possible fake UFO invasion.

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That's what I told the crew today.

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Fake. I'm glad I read that.

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fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake

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UFO invasion

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fake fake fake fake fake fake artificial artificial fake ufo fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake

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fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake

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fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake

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Hey, somebody broke Alex. Guys, reboot him. Come on.

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All right, let's just go to break. Jesus.

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That was surreal. When I heard that, I was like, what are you doing?

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It's a minute of him yelling fake.

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Okay. This is why it's impossible to argue with the alt-right.

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Well, yeah. And it's ludicrous to imagine ever having a conversation with Alex.

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Yeah, that is exactly what they say, but just boiled down to its perfect essence.

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All the right wing is saying right now is fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake.

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Steven Greer is a big name in the world of alien disclosure stuff and what have you.

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We've talked about him a bit in the past. I think he's come up in the Project Camelot episodes.

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Not ever an interview with him specifically, but he's a figure that some of the weirder alien folk distrust.

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He's had a couple documentaries about him, and I think maybe they think that he's Shill or something.

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I don't know, but he's a bit of an alien dude.

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Real doctor or fake doctor?

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I don't remember. I think he's like a sports medicine. I think he does have an actual doctorate,

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but I don't know how relevant it is, and he's been doing alien shit for as long as I've known about it.

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He's the house doctor for the Mavericks, so we've got a lot of hate coming his way.

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So Alex has this guy on, and Alex wants to talk about how they're planning to do a fake alien invasion.

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Sure. Alex, he has to explain why he's having this conversation because it's even absurd for his show.

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So this is how he tries to do that.

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I've been listening to Dr. Steven Greer for 20 years, and I've read a couple of his books,

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and I've followed what he has to say, and I never got into UFOs and all of this because

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I knew a lot of it was real, but I couldn't get real to admit there were FEMA camps and

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shadow government and the CFR and all of this, but the public now is ready for this, and so

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he'll be with us the whole next hour and hopefully come back again for a couple hours next week,

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and so he's on with us.

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I'd like to make the argument that it's not that the public is ready for it,

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it's that Alex's show has descended to this.

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There's nothing else to do.

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I don't have any other clips of their interview because I don't find it at all interesting.

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It's ridiculous. Alex is just gushing over this guy.

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Spinning a yarn about fake alien invasion.

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One of the other reasons that I am not focusing on this right now, other than to say that

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this interview happened where they're talking about a fake alien invasion, is because I

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listened to The Next Day and this whole thing is fucking dropped like a hot potato.

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It's not...

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I think it was just a weird interview that Alex did because this guy has a new documentary

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coming out and he wants to try and get some juice off of it, so he'll be like,

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yeah, let's play around with the idea that the globalists are going to do a false alien invasion.

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That's fun.

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See if I can get some traffic out of this.

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That's fun, I like it.

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Yeah, so I don't really care.

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I'm not going to help Greer promote his documentary and Alex's interview is not interesting, but...

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If it was Dave and Alan Greer, we'll promote the shit out of that documentary.

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But if Alex does continue down the road of saying there's going to be a fake alien invasion,

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we will revisit the topic.

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For sure.

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I promise if he keeps it up, but for now it just seems like a blip on the radar.

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It's a one-off.

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It's a bottle episode.

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Yeah, so that goes the rest of the 12th and now we're on to the 13th.

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And this is a weird day.

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Weird day.

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I mean, it's hard to get weirder than Alex saying that he was going to be in Guardians of the Galaxy,

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but he manages somehow.

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And that is because he has some big news.

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And I got on my knees about 3 a.m. this morning when I woke up

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and just asked God to give me the guidance and the direction to not get angry on air

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and to just calmly report this information to you as best I can and give you the evidence.

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It's very soothing music.

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Right now you'll see the live show feed title Global Bombshell.

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WHO confirms vaccines are having sterilants added to them on a planetary scale.

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I have an entire folder that is only the surface of this with the United Nations admitting they're doing it.

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Now think about that.

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Think about it.

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It's only three pages, though.

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You can't do four.

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There's no news here.

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This is just a headline Alex is reading.

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Global Bombshell, three exclamation points.

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World Health Organization confirms sterilants added to vaccines globally.

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This isn't a news article.

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It's just a post on Infowars that has the embedded video of Alex's show in it.

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It's literally a blog post that just includes the show that Alex is in the middle of doing.

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He's citing the very show he's in the process of doing as a source on the show he's in the middle of doing.

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That is spectacular.

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That's so impressive.

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That is really great.

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That's really great.

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I have never seen an ouroboros in real life.

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That's beautiful.

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That is really gorgeous.

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It's circular citation.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's stunning.

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Whatever I'm saying now is confirmed by routine to my citation, which is this show,

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and whatever I'm going to say in half an hour.

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Okay?

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Great.

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Weird.

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You are a weirdo.

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The future proves what I'm saying in the past because eventually the future will be the past, Dan.

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It's pretty wild.

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That is interesting.

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Yeah.

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So the whole thing on this episode is going to be that the World Health Organization and all

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these folks have admitted that they put sterilants into vaccines in order to make people unable to

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reproduce and what have you.

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So that will be a large thesis over which the rest of Alex's episode will go.

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But also, of course, because he's Alex fucking Jones,

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there's going to be a bunch of weird other shit going on.

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Well, naturally.

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But Alex does start with his commitment to be focused.

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So he does stay on topic for a bit.

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I was laying in bed with a tablet and I thought, let me go see what David

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Knight's up to because I had watched the show yesterday and I saw him play a video

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that I meant to play that I didn't get to yesterday by a group like Project Veritas

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called Go Vote in the UK.

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That's a credible group.

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Kind of leftist, but they mean well.

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I don't know what that means.

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And they're talking about interviewing a big pharma whistleblower

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about HCG being added to vaccines to sterilize women.

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And then folks were all on YouTube saying, oh, we don't know.

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This is true.

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Oh, you know, they wouldn't dare do that.

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And then, of course, this morning the YouTube video was gone at like a half

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million views.

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Well, all I did was type in.

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HCG vaccines.

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And I was on the UN's website saying they added to vaccines to sterilize

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people.

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But see, no one cares when it's totally admitted.

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So Alex is just making all that stuff up.

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I don't really know what this UK group is and I don't really care because as it's

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being reported, they're talking about talking to a whistleblower.

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I have no idea.

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I'm not going to chase that rabbit trail down.

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So the World Health Organization does not admit on their website that they put HCG

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in vaccines to sterilize people.

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In fact, if you go to their website and read their materials, you get a very easy to

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understand explanation for how this misinformation works.

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Julie Milstein, P.

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David Griffin, and J.W.

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Lee released a paper called, quote, damage to immunization programs for

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misinformation on contraceptive vaccines, which explained the dynamic at play.

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There was a campaign to attack vaccines that conflated a 1994 study in India,

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which was, quote, not sponsored, supported, nor executed by the World Health

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Organization, which was a, quote, clinical trial carried out to assess the

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effectiveness of a prototype anti-fertility vaccine designed to provide

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protection against unplanned pregnancies for a period of one to two years.

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The active ingredient in that birth control was HCG, or human chorionic

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gonadrophen, which is a hormone necessary for a pregnancy to begin.

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In order for this hormone to be delivered, it needed a carrier.

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And in this Indian study, they used diphtheria and tetanus toxoids, which were

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produced in a way that they wouldn't get anyone sick, but just serve as the carrier.

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Anti-vax proponents took this study and conflated the details into being a

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vaccine trial where they put in a sterilizing agent.

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Great.

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They went on to test this, you know, a tetanus vaccine in labs.

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Quote, the vaccines were sent to hospital laboratories and tested using pregnancy

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test kits, which were developed for use on serum and urine specimens and are not

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appropriate for a vaccine.

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Because they were using something that was a test that it wasn't made to analyze

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this, they found results that were confusing, and they were able to twist.

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They found, quote, low levels of HCG-like activity in some samples, and that was

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enough to create a narrative.

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Actual researchers followed up and, quote, when the vaccines were tested in

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laboratories which used properly validated test systems, the results clearly

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showed that the vaccines did not contain HCG.

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This was validated by six laboratories in five countries, but it doesn't matter.

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The erroneous science confirmed the conclusion these folks were looking for,

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so when the stronger evidence provided that they are wrong, they just ignore

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that and yell about the erroneous stuff that they wanted to believe to begin

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with.

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Great.

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That's the root of what a bunch of this they're putting sterilants in the

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vaccine stuff comes from.

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And even though the explanation for where the confusion comes from is super

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easy to understand, this narrative just keeps popping up over time.

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Africa Check traced how this same misinformation was being used in 2014 to

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claim the World Health Organization was conducting a, quote, mass

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sterilization exercise in Kenya masquerading as a tetanus vaccine.

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Great, great, great, great, great.

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And the part of the part that makes it even more insidious is a lot of these

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vaccination programs surrounding tetanus are focused towards women of

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childbearing age because one of the concerns is the children dying from

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tetanus early.

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Right, right.

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And it's one of the great successes that they've been able to take those

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tetanus-related deaths so far down in the developing world.

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And so you take the demographic that would be most helped by the vaccine.

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Naturally.

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And then you turn that into some sort of a nefarious conspiracy about trying

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to make people...

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That's the plan.

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Yeah, it's a mess.

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I propose we always have a manhole within three feet of each other, and if

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somebody says anything anti-vex bullshit, you get to push them down the

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manhole.

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That is my new law.

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As long as it's only an inconvenience...

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Ten million manholes across Chicago.

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As long as it's only an inconvenience when you get pushed in a manhole, it

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doesn't actually really hurt you that much.

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Oh, there's a little trampoline under there.

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Maybe there's a little dirty water.

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Yeah, well, you have to join the below time society.

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You have to join the Morlocks?

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Yeah, exactly.

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After two years, you may be able to come back out.

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That would be an interesting way to do things.

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It's a bad way to do things.

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Probably.

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Yeah.

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So Alex believes that he's proved all this stuff, and he gets real cocky

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about it.

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We've known this since the late 80s.

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They've been doing this.

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And so there's that frustration that I've known so much information for so

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long that I just get up here and I tell you, yeah, there's

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sterilants in a lot of the vaccines.

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People go, oh, that's just Alex saying that instead of going, hey, here it is.

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Here's the URL on the UN website.

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Now, as soon as we point this out, Google will bury it.

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That's why you want to use Yippie or something else.

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Yippie.

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Interesting.

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Hold on to that thought for later.

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Sure.

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Alex doesn't provide a URL there, but I went and watched the video, and he

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does flash up on screen the image of the title of a study, quote, HCG

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found in World Health Organization tetanus vaccine in Kenya raises

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concerns in the developing world.

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This is a paper that was published in the Open Access Library Journal.

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And let's just say it has an interesting history.

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Firstly, it's just based on the same debunked nonsense about the tetanus

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vaccine that conflates the Indian birth control shot study with the tetanus

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vaccine.

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So right off the bat, it's not great.

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Of course.

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This was a paper that was written by two researchers named Shaw and Tom

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Genovich, who had a bit of a bit of a history of releasing bad work about

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vaccine earlier paper slavery.

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Is it okay?

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In 2016, they put out a paper in the journal Vaccine, which purported

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to show a quote link between the vaccine for HPV and behavioral issues.

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This article was subsequently retracted by the journal with an announcement

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saying, quote, this article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor

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in chief due to serious concerns regarding the scientific soundness of

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the article.

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Review by the editor in chief and evaluation by outside experts

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confirmed that the methodology is seriously flawed.

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And the claims that the article makes are unjustified.

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This was Shaw and Tom Genovich's third study related to vaccines that

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had been found by peer review to be, quote, seriously flawed.

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Their history is littered with papers about vaccines that have been

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reviewed and shown to be poorly done in the generous interpretation and

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anti-vex pseudoscience in the less generous version.

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So they were two of the main co-authors of this paper whose headline Alex

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flashed up on screen, and he's presenting as on the World Health

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Organization UN's website.

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So their basic plan is to try and get something published for at least a

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little bit, then it's retracted, then they get to use it for right-wing

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propaganda.

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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I couldn't speak to their plan.

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But if that's what you're suggesting, maybe.

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But it would be unfair for me just to say, like, hey, they've done all this

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stuff repeatedly in the past.

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They'll be attacking the messenger.

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And, you know, you can't just say that, you know, just because they're clear

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history of not being good sources of information, you got to automatically

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reject the study.

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That wouldn't be fair.

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As it turns out, this paper is worthless as well.

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In their paper, they did no new tests.

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They just relied on data that already existed and was part of that 2014

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campaign against the tetanus vaccine in Kenya.

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There's honestly not much more to it than that.

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It's just a rehashing of the tetanus birth control shot confusion

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propaganda.

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That's literally all it is.

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The study doesn't prove anything.

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It doesn't show any new information.

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It's just a republishing of an already debunked conspiracy theory about

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vaccines.

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Oh, my God.

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It's the paper version of Alex posting his video on his own blog.

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Sort of.

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Another important variable to remember is that even if these vaccines did have

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HCG in them, it wouldn't sterilize anyone.

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It would make you temporarily unable to get pregnant.

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Many people opt for the Depo-Provera shot as a means of birth control, and

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you have to get that every three months to control reproduction.

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So I have no idea what kind of permanent sterilization Alex is imagining is going

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to go with this, but whatever.

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It's just his fantasies, supported by the long-discredited work of anti-vax

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zealots.

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Also, the Open Access Library Journal is not a credible outlet that you should

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accept as legitimate if you're trying to make an argument like this.

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The fact that Alex has an article, that this article is his primary source that

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he relies on, then claims that he's taking information from the World Health

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Organization, or UN's website, is just the definition of dishonest.

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And so that's what a lot of this is based on, where it's coming from.

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And it's trash.

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Great.

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So of course, we've got to connect Bill Gates in here.

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We've got to complain about him a little bit.

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Fine.

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So why not?

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Whatever.

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They learned with Hitler that people fight tanks, but they don't fight dudes

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in pink sweaters.

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Now, India threw his ass out, and so did Pakistan.

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They figured out what was going on.

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And look, I get it.

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There are a lot of folks in India, man.

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But do you really want to sign on to sterilizing them?

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Where is this going?

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And you know, Bill Gates has his angle.

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He has.

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You can see it from his perspective until you realize that they're after

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everybody.

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So I don't know how Alex thinks he comes off when he says that he kind of

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understands the argument of sterilizing or killing off people in the developing

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world, but he has to be against the plan because it's actually about targeting

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people like himself.

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To me, that sounds like someone who would be totally fine with exterminating

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people in the developing world if he felt entirely comfortable that people like

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himself were not going to be affected.

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Someone who has the principle set that Alex pretends to have would never say

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something like that.

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That sounds like someone who would be very comfortable in a white supremacist

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authoritarian state.

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It kind of sounds like he wants a race-specific bioweapon.

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Seems like...

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As long as that race is not white.

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The story that Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation were kicked out of India is

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completely not true.

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It was something that made the rounds on conspiracy blogs back in 2017, which

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prompted India's Ministry of Health and Family Welfare to release a statement

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saying, quote, some media reports have suggested that all health-related

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collaboration with the Gates Foundation, with the National Health Mission, has

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been stopped.

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This is inaccurate and misleading.

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The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation continues to collaborate and support the

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Ministry of Health and Family Welfare.

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The propaganda around this traces back to India stopping an HPV vaccine trial

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that the Gates Foundation had a part in funding back in April 2012, after there

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were reports that seven of the youths in the trial had died.

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Subsequent investigations found that the deaths were not related to the vaccine.

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From Science Magazine, quote, one girl drowned in a quarry, another died from a

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snake bite, two committed suicide by ingesting pesticides, and one died from

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complications of malaria.

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Investigators deemed the other two deaths unlikely to have been related to the

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vaccine, but not as easily ruled out as the other five.

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It's still very sad, but it's not from the vaccine.

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This is just absolutely fake propaganda narrative that Alex probably read on some

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dumb conspiracy blog he thinks is credible, and now he's repeating to his

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audience as fact.

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That's the level of work Alex brings to the table, because he's dumb, lazy, and

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malicious.

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Also, I think he's just making up the part about Pakistan, because in September

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2019, Philanthropy News Digest reported that, quote, the Bill and Melinda Gates

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Foundation has signed a memorandum of understanding with the government of

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Pakistan and will commit approximately $200 million in support of the AHAIS

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initiative, a comprehensive effort aimed at combating poverty and improving

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health, nutrition, and financial inclusion in that country.

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The prime minister of Pakistan, Imran Khan, said, quote, I'm pleased that the

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Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation will assist with a range of activities,

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including accelerating stunting reduction programs, supporting financial

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inclusion initiatives, and investing in public health systems to improve health

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and reduce maternal, newborn, and child mortality.

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So this one, the claim that Bill Gates was kicked out of Pakistan, just seems

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like a demonstrable lie that Alex is making up on the spot in order to malign

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his imagined enemy, which he's presenting to his audience as fact, which is just

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unacceptable.

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No, he did get kicked out of Pakistan, but it was, you know, so he got a little

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too drunk one night.

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Look, I've been kicked out of a bar before, too.

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It's just when you're a billionaire, when you get kicked out of a bar, you have

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to get kicked out of the whole country.

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He can send his money over, but he's not invited back.

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That would be interesting, but also no record of that.

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OK, fair.

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But the thing is that Bill Gates, I mean, you know, big bad guy.

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Yes.

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But did you know that there's a council of 12 people?

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Love it.

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Who run the world.

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I love it.

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There's a council of 12.

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Yes.

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Now here's what's disappointing about this.

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Alex doesn't know who all of them are.

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OK, that's an issue.

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This makes me really sad for a conspiracy theorist.

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And I've been really researching Bill Gates for years, but I've been researching

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him in more depth and he is completely insane.

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And that's why he is the science officer on the committee.

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And there is a global committee, of course.

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It has rotating members just like a Politburo.

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And there are 12 of them.

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And I know who at least eight of them are.

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Galahad lands a lot.

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This information is the most secret information on the planet.

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And so I commit myself into God's hands, bringing this information out.

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And I'm not being dramatic, ladies and gentlemen.

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Everybody knows that.

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Yeah, everyone does.

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Those other four are going to get you, Alex.

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Well.

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Those four mystery people are going to get you.

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You can't know everything.

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You can't know everything, Dan.

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It makes more sense that he doesn't know.

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Also, if it's a rotating cast, do you die?

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Or like in a Politburo, you're allowed to retire from the council?

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Well, I assume that Soros is in there, right?

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Sure.

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He's probably in the mix.

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You know, there's got to be plenty of members who were retired.

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So it's not a council of 12.

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Hillary.

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Hillary's in there.

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I think she was kicked out.

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Obama.

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Obama, yeah, yeah, he's got to be in there.

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I bet that.

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Are we just going with past presidents now?

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Alex is just like, there's eight people I don't like.

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12 is a better number for a council.

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Stelter.

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Yeah, Stelter's in there for sure.

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Yeah, Stelter's in there for sure.

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No doubt.

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Stelter's the media arm.

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Surprise twist, Bolsonaro's in there as well.

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How crazy is that?

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He's controlled opposition.

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No, Bolsonaro's not.

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Whatever and however Alex pronounced it is.

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That's Bolsonaro's evil twin.

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It's a different person.

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Little do we know, Alex has been not talking about Bolsonaro this whole time.

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Could be.

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Could be.

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So Alex rambles a little bit, wants to try and make mocking arguments in order to minimize the COVID-19 situation.

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And he touches on one of his favorite things, which I find disgraceful.

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The sheep that run off the cliff are our leaders like, yeah, you're not opening that school.

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My kid's not going to your, we're not going, you're not opening that mall.

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I'm going to sue you.

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Oh, and the meat packers.

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No one's died at a meat packing plant.

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Thousands and thousands tested.

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You know, 301 plant all have COVID.

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None of them got sick because it's a fake test, folks.

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This is such a demonstrably false claim, but I have no idea how Alex thinks he can get away with it.

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On May 8th, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported on the second death that had come from people infected at a local meat packing plant.

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This person's, quote, condition declined so quickly that he couldn't receive advanced treatment, records show.

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That same day, Business Insider reported that at least 48 meat packing plant workers have died with COVID-19.

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If you consider that, as Business Insider also pointed out, quote, employers are not required to track coronavirus cases among workers per recent guidance,

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and does not require on-site inspections for worker complaints related to the virus,

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if you consider that, the number of infected and possibly related deaths could be much higher than the numbers we know.

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Alex has latched onto this story out of Missouri, where 373 workers at a Triumph Foods pork plant tested positive for COVID-19,

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but the stories about the case were quick to point out that they were asymptomatic.

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This is an interesting headline, but it also fails to capture a lot of the relevant information about the story.

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This story came out in the first week of May, but it wasn't the first time this plant made headlines involving coronavirus.

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On April 24th, local news reported that 16 workers at that plant had tested positive for COVID-19, which was prompting them to go ahead and test everyone.

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This article implies that they were going to change their strategy to testing, quote, individuals who are not showing symptoms as well as those who are,

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which would lead one to believe that previously they were only testing people who had symptoms.

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These original 16 cases are completely foreign to Alex. He has no idea about this part of the story,

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because he just saw a headline about asymptomatic cases at the plant, decided it must be no one sick, and looked no further into the case than that.

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Also, at least one employee at that plant who tested positive for COVID-19 is now dead. What Alex is saying has no connection with reality.

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He's just making up all the details he feels like in order to prop up his predetermined conclusion.

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No sincere person would do that if they were interested in the truth. He's a fucking liar.

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And I wish he'd gotten cast in Guardians of the Galaxy, because a bad movie is better than this.

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I don't understand. There are people culpable for this, and there's no lawsuits, there's no nothing that we can do.

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I mean, there may be eventually.

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There has to be.

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I don't know. I haven't looked into it deeply, but I've seen some headlines, and I feel a little irresponsible saying this because I haven't looked into them,

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but I wonder if one day there will be a statistical difference you will be able to find between deaths of people who take in different sorts of media.

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And I don't know if that will end up having any kind of criminal or civil liability, but I wonder if one day we will be able to see those trends.

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And I would be horrified, too.

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Man, it's just there are people who are doing this knowingly. I can't get that thought out of my head.

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People are knowingly choosing to watch other people die, and they are in a position to do something about it.

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And in fact, they're in the position wherein they're specifically choosing not to do something about it.

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I don't understand how they're not absolutely culpable for - yeah.

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Some of them may think that it's a lesser amount of pain and death than caused by the alternative, but yeah, it's whatever. It's awful.

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Yep.

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So in this next clip, Alex gets into - he hasn't done his racist Asian voice in a while, so we get to do a little bit of that here.

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Sure.

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China says, oh, there were five cases in Wuhan. Oh, you'd not leave your house now.

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So now we are, oh, we can't open up either. China says second wave come.

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They're all open for business, but we can't. Sweden's communist now, so they stay open.

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Because once they've conquered you, it's okay.

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That's a throwaway line.

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Yeah, there's some of the - there it is. They're the kids in the bubbles in China.

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I'm going to go to break, and I'm just going to tell you this right now.

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Vampires.

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I tried to hold this back.

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Vampires.

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I thought that we could get people in the government to actually look into this and not want to go down this road, but -

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Vampires?

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It's so cowardly and so into being slaves that it's avalanched into mass hysteria, and thank God Trump now understands this and is bucking it,

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but if you don't have storable foods and if you - I don't care about five acres in the water. You're insane because the New World Order is here.

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And if you're in a city, you're crazy. That's all I'm saying.

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We have storable food ready to ship out to you at infowarsstore.com. Almost no one else does, or they're lying to you, or it's crap.

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Cool. So in this next clip, I don't feel like we need to -

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Yeah, whatever.

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That is a demonstration.

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Vampires. Yep.

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Might as well be.

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Yep.

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I wish it was vampires.

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That would be great.

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I wish he was in Guardians of the Galaxy.

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Me too. And I wish that movie was by vampires.

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So we get into - like, Alex comes back from break, and he starts vamping about how he's got to put off the big news.

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He's vamping?

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So the big news is just the - they're putting sterilants in the vaccines.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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He's already touched on it at the beginning of the show, but he hasn't gotten into the news, but now he realizes that he can't get into it because he's got to get in the zone or something.

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All right. You know, I said I'd get into this news, this segment, and I'm not doing this to build it up, but it's so momentous that I have to get my brain completely focused to be able to do this.

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And during the break, I was doing some work and taking care of some things, and I got distracted. Nobody's bad for coming in here, I told them to, but I was busy doing some work, so I'm going to have to do it next segment and get back in the zone.

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Got to get back in the zone, man.

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So he can't -

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That's unacceptable.

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He can't do it because he's frazzled.

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Unacceptable behavior.

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Well, but the problem is that Alex prepares so much that anything can make him unprepared.

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Like I said, I am particularly prepared for today's show, and I'm the one telling David not to kill himself, but he's doing five, six hours of preparation every day for his show, and I've done that much myself today.

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Uh-huh.

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And, man, it's all just totally come together. It's exactly how we analyzed it, but not a surprise. We're following their operation.

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Uh-huh.

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They are really planning to execute this thing to the hilt, so I had really hoped they'd back down. I'd really hoped that it was all just a bunch of crazy eugenicists trying to one-up each other, but they're going to carry this out.

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Uh-huh.

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So you better start getting ready to decide what you're going to do, folks, and it's going to get really bad. They're going to carry out false flags and blame it on us, and it's going to be interesting.

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Shit.

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I love it. Just thank God and your lucky stars that you, for whatever reason, are awake and aware and have a relationship with God, the living God, because these guys worship the God of death.

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So Alex is prepared a whole ton, and he's just vamping there a bit, just filling space.

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I would tell you about all this, but first I've got to warn you, my right-wing buddies are probably going to do some terrorism sooner or later. They're already starting.

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And don't listen when they say that they did it.

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False flags.

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I mean, my right-wing buddies are going to do it. You've already seen it. They're all there.

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I'm wildly encouraging that.

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Yeah, love it.

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On the air.

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It's my favorite thing, but it would only be done by people who are trying to make me feel bad about it.

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So Alex gets back into the zone, and he explains exactly what he's going to do to prove his massive case that there are sterilants in the vaccines.

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All right.

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Now, I'm just going to show you right now 18 documents.

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I'm just going to read the headlines and tell you where they came from.

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You should do more than that.

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And then I'm going to explain to you that this is one one-thousandth, is my estimation, of what is publicly available.

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So I always get excited. Alex says there's 18 things he's going to present as evidence of this argument that there's sterilants in the vaccines.

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My guess is he gets through four.

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That's an interesting bet. I appreciate you making a bet. I have kept track of how many he gets through.

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Okay.

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And we're going to talk about them one by one.

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Okay.

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And I will say he's over at the end of this.

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That sounds about right.

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So this is actually a false start. I thought this was the first example, but it's not actually.

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You can type in HCG vaccine, and you will get 1985 test with Fauci, of course, NIH.

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Fauci. Adding that hormone so that a woman thinks she's pregnant all the time. It's a pregnancy hormone.

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And so you can never get pregnant.

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So I thought that was the first piece of evidence that he had is this study, this 1985 study.

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If you Google HCG in vaccines.

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Sure.

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That's just an Indian study, part of what was misrepresented by the anti-vax propagandists.

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It was just somebody researching into the idea of a temporary birth control vaccine.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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This was done by a scientist named Gursaran Talwar.

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And you can find articles about him to this day continuing his work of trying to produce effective and safe birth control methods.

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And he changed his name to Fauci.

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I'm not sure about that. He's a bit older.

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Okay.

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Alex is just pointing to this and implying that this was a study where they added HCG to some other vaccine.

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But it was about a trial for a vaccine that would work as a temporary birth control option.

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It says literally nothing to do with the point he's trying to make.

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Yeah.

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There's a 1985 patent filing for this that's assigned to the National Institute of Immunology.

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Which kind of sounds close to the entity Fauci is the head of.

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The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

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But it's not the same thing.

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Primarily because the nation in question in the National Institute of Immunology is India.

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Hmm.

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Hmm.

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Hmm.

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It seems insurmountable.

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Yes.

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I'm going to need Alex to prove the connection between Talwar's 1985 study and Fauci.

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Because as it stands, I'm not sure that it's demonstrated.

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Fauci, immortal, has to change his appearance every 50 years in order to keep people from thinking that he is immortal.

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Maybe.

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Maybe.

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I got nothing.

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This is bad.

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I thought that was the first example.

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Sure.

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And I thought Alex quit after one.

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Does he just start?

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Because he just starts rambling.

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I don't know.

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So he just is talking about this HCG that he's learned about and is now obsessed with.

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Sure.

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HCG?

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Well, where do you think HCG gets released from?

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It gets released and commanded from the brain and the ovaries.

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The brain and the testicles.

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So, he's just making stuff up.

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It doesn't have anything to do with the testicles.

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I guess you could make something of a case that the ovaries are related, but that isn't really accurate either.

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According to Hormone.org, HCG, quote, is produced by the cells that are surrounding a growing embryo, which eventually forms the placenta.

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The ovaries themselves do not produce the hormone.

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It comes from the cells that actually go on to become the placenta.

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It is true that the pituitary gland also produces low levels of HCG, so you pretty much always have a small amount in your body,

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but not to the level that it would normally affect pregnancy or anything like that.

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This is not one of Alex's 18 headlines.

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He's just in the middle of rambling.

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Just tossing this one out.

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He said this, and I just wanted to point out that he thinks it comes from your balls.

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Sure, great.

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So, Alex still has not gotten down to the headlines.

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The clock is ticking on Mr. Jones, so I just want listeners to understand that I've made the decision to go whole hog against these people,

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but I'm begging you for my sake, your sake, our children's sake.

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Do whatever you have to to get this out, okay?

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So, let's start getting into it.

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Let me just show you headlines.

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Over headshot, please.

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That was actually kind of shocking to me because I did think the Fauci 85 thing was the first one.

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I didn't realize we hadn't actually started the clock yet.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Hit the clock.

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Okay.

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So, Alex, he puts it on the board.

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We're getting ready to go.

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This is going to be, I don't know, ping pong.

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I'm going to play with him.

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He's going to serve it up, but I'm going to hit it right back at him.

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Okay, here we go.

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So, here's the first one.

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This is from the NIH.gov.

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Birth control vaccine is on the horizon for family planning.

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Cool.

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This is from many years ago.

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It's here now.

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So, this was not from the NIH.

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It's a journal article that's housed on the National Library of Medicine's website, though,

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which is also at the NIH.gov address, so it's easy to misunderstand that.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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It was a 1993 article in the journal Annals of Medicine.

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It was written by Gerseron Tolwar, and it discusses his work in terms of developing birth control shots.

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Even the abstract of this article makes clear that the birth control vaccine he was writing up,

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quote, has previously been demonstrated to be reversible in its effect,

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and it requires a booster every eight to nine months.

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Article number one has nothing to do with the point Alex thinks he's making

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and does not show that the evil globalists are putting sterilants in the vaccines.

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He is O for one.

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All right.

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Here's serve two.

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Anti-fertility vaccines. How they work.

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Cell.com.

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So, this is an April 2002 review article in the journal Trends in Immunology

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that's being posted on Cell.com.

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This is literally just an article that discusses recent developments in the field of vaccines

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that could possibly be used for birth control in humans.

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It has nothing to do with adding sterilants to vaccine.

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It does nothing to establish Alex's point at all.

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Unless his point is that birth control should be illegal,

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I guess if that's the argument he's trying to make, then...

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I suppose.

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I don't know.

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If birth control is nefarious, all of these examples start to make sense.

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I'm going to be honest.

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I think that he is not getting into the article's body on purpose.

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I think he's just reading these headlines because he doesn't want to engage with what the articles actually say.

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But the headlines kind of work, but they don't really.

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I'm starting to see through this dude's plan.

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Oh, do you?

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I'm starting to put this all together.

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He's like a fifth element coming at us.

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At this point, he's 0 for 2.

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So we get to the third headline.

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We'll see if he makes it to the fourth.

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I'm guessing 4.

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Here's number 3.

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Unwanted sterilization of eugenics programs in the United States.

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PBS.

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The very Democrats supposedly battling are the ones running it.

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You've got to love them.

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So this PBS article is specifically about the programs in the United States in the early 1900s

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that were enacted on non-white populations through the country,

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as well as whites who were deemed, quote, feeble-minded or mentally ill.

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There's also mention of incarcerated persons being coerced into having their tubes tied in more recent days,

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which is all awful.

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The thing that connects all of these cases is how reproductive justice was infringed

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by taking self-determination away from the people who were subjected to these programs.

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These cases are used to support the argument that people should have access to all of the family planning

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and reproductive health care that they choose to use,

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which Alex should strongly be against based on what he believes.

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I suppose.

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I guess. I guess.

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I don't know.

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The point of this article runs counter to Alex's position, so that's probably not a good one for him to use.

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There's an ugly history in our country of this stuff, and I'm not going to deny that,

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but I also don't accept this as any kind of evidence that the globalists are putting

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sterilants in vaccines today.

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That relies on the kind of thinking that's basically, you know,

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what he's doing is just basically winking and nudging you,

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saying, like, hey, people did awful things way in the past.

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They're probably doing it all now.

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It's a way of trying to insinuate something and then pretend it's proof.

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Showing that humans and gasp Americans are capable of a particular evil

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doesn't prove that they are doing it.

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However, it's the kind of evidence you would provide if you were trying to convince someone that something is possible.

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It's a lowering of the bar to the point where whatever you're proving is ultimately meaningless

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to the actual conversation you think you're having.

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Alex is 0 for 3.

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Yeah.

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This is not - this doesn't work for - what are you saying?

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That's disgusting.

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That's unfortunate.

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That's not good.

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So he does make it to 4.

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Hey!

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India mass sterilization.

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Women forced into camps, say, relatives, London Guardian.

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You know who funds the camps?

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Oh, you may have heard him.

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He likes to wear pink sweaters.

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He got kicked out!

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That is a big problem.

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Why is he - what?

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God damn it.

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So India is a country that has a rough history with sterilizations.

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Dating back to the 70s, there have been some scandals about mass sterilization.

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There's a lot to the picture, and a lot of it is not pretty.

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However, none of it has to do with putting sterilants in vaccines.

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It has to do with things like paying poor people to have their tubes tied.

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So this particular article Alex is citing is from 2014, and it has to do with some deaths

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at a sterilization center.

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This is completely unrelated to the point Alex is trying to make, and, like you clearly

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saw, he's contradicting his own narratives.

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I thought Bill Gates was supposed to have been thrown out of India because of this vaccine

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stuff in 2009, but apparently he's also running these camps in 2014 and onward.

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All this stuff is internally inconsistent, and that's because Alex makes up this shit

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however he wants, just to make whatever point he feels like.

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I don't mean to diminish the issue of safe reproductive health in India at all.

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There's definitely questions to raise there and a conversation to be had, but it has nothing

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to do with what Alex is talking about.

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He has O for four.

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Ugh.

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Unfortunately, you're O for one.

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God damn.

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Because Alex makes it to five.

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God damn it.

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But some funding ties with the Gates Foundation.

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Reuters.

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That was years ago, because they caught him doing what they do best, sterilizing.

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So, I don't know if that's from many years ago or years ago.

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It's from 2017, that article.

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This article is about a larger trend that was going on in the Indian government that

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involved taking partial control of the Immunization Technical Support Unit, which was formerly

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fully funded by the Gates Foundation.

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Quote, the decision is seen as part of India's broader clampdown on non-governmental organizations

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to assert control over decision-making in key policy areas.

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Last year, India ordered the dismissal of dozens of foreign-funded health experts working

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on public welfare schemes.

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The article goes on to quote senior health ministry official Soumya Swaminathan, who

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quote, stressed that there were no instances of influence found and the decision was only

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in part prompted by a wider perception about foreign funding of the program, which is to

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say that the reason for taking control of some of these things was a concern about influence

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of foreign people over policy, but upon review, there weren't any actual instances of that.

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Right, right, right, right.

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So, after this decision, the Gates Foundation still funded the parts of the ITSU that were

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involved in tracking vaccination coverage and managing logistics.

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So, this is more of a government reorganization than anything else.

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If Alex's story were correct and the Indian government made this move because they found

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out Gates was sterilizing everyone, you probably expect that they wouldn't retain the Gates

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Foundation as a partner on vaccination logistics management and he's supposed to have been

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kicked out of the country at this point.

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Makes no fucking sense.

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Alex is 0 for 5.

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All right, okay.

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We caught you with the sterilization thing.

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That's our bad.

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Right.

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Hey, we still need all kinds of other stuff, but we're not going to allow you.

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Hey, come on.

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Don't do it again.

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0 for 5.

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Don't do it again, buddy.

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All right, get back in there.

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But I will say Alex does do a lot better than you expected.

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You had very low expectations for him.

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I did.

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He gets to 6.

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Fertility regulating and immunotherapeutic vaccines reaching human trials, academic.com.

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That's 23 years ago, 1997.

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So this is just another article about Talwar's work on the birth control shots.

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It has literally nothing to do with the point Alex is trying to make.

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He gets 0 for 6.

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Also, academic.com is not the site he's trying to cite.

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It's the Oxford Academic Archive at academic.oup.com.

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This is just a reposting on their archive of an article from the July 1997 issue of

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Human Reproduction Update.

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Alex has no idea what sources he's trying to use to make the points he completely doesn't

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understand.

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This is so pathetic.

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Wow.

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This is really disheartening.

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This is a real bummer.

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When they actually try and prove their point, it's real sad.

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Especially because, remember, the point is supposed to be that the World Health Organization

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is admitting that they put sterilants in the vaccines.

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None of this so far has shown any of that.

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So we get to number 7.

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Oh, here's an investigation of sterilization camp by the Population Research Institute.

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Want to read all about it?

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So Alex doesn't even offer a citation on that one.

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He just says it's an investigation by the Population Research Institute.

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I don't care about this since PRI is a propaganda outlet run by Steven Mosher, who we've talked

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about a bit in the past.

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Unless whatever is in that report is being substantiated by someone who is not him, I'm

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not even going to give it the time of day.

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It's just not even worth it.

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Alex is 0 for 7.

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But he does get to number 8.

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Contraceptive vaccines.

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Here's another one.

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Now it feels like he's not even trying.

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He just said contraceptive vaccines.

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He moves on.

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Bingo!

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I have no idea what source this is coming from.

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And regardless, it's clearly just about birth control shots.

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He's just bored.

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Alex is 0 for 8.

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He is.

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He's not even.

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Yeah, that's great.

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But he gets to number 9.

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Oh, does he?

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Special program research development and research training in human reproduction.

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World Health Organization.

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Geneva.

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Switzerland.

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It's all right here.

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I read that.

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I read that.

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I can tell you with absolute certainty that Alex did not read that because what he's citing

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isn't a publication.

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It's an initiative.

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It's a whole group.

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Right.

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Okay.

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The fact that the World Health Organization has a part of it that's dedicated to reproductive

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health and that some of their interests might involve birth control shots is not suspicious

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at all.

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That makes total sense.

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Alex isn't pointing to anything specific.

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He's just saying the name of a group and patting himself on the back for a job well done.

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I can't really disprove anything here because there's nothing to disprove.

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Alex is 0 for 9.

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I do like that it seems like he's forgotten that we're watching.

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He's just sitting and it's like he's at his morning breakfast table just looking at the

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paper.

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Just eating.

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Oh, look at what they did today.

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Eating a little bit of Lucky Charms.

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Exactly.

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And then getting mad and yelling.

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Contraceptive vaccine!

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Again!

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I was supposed to be in Guardians of the Galaxy!

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Respect me!

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So we get to number 10.

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What double digits?

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Research into anti-fertility vaccine continues to spike protest.

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The Lancet Medical Journal.

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Oh, and what's the main one?

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HPV.

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And of course, HCG.

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Get the fuck out of here.

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So this isn't about the HPV vaccine at all.

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It's about backlash in India surrounding research into birth control vaccines.

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It's an article from 1998 and it legitimately has nothing to do with anything other than

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opposition to birth control, the shot.

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Alex is weaving HPV in for some reason, probably just because he wants to make it sound more

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damning or something, but HPV vaccines weren't even introduced until 2006, a full eight years

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after this Lancet article came out.

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This is just about birth control and opposition to birth control.

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It has nothing to do with Alex's point.

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He is 0 for 10.

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Yeah.

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So let's try again.

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Here we go.

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This is just about you, anti-fertility vaccines, Science Direct.

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Four stars.

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So this is actually just the same as his second headline.

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It's the same review of anti-fertility vaccine options that he previously brought up as an

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article from Cell.com.

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It's just now it's posted on ScienceDirect.com.

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He either doesn't know or doesn't care that he's using the same source multiple times,

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which is a bad sign, or it's possible that he's talking about a different article on

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Science Direct that actually has the same headline.

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That one is from 1989, and it's just an article in the journal Vaccine by Gerseron Talwar

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about his work on birth control vaccines.

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Whichever it is that Alex is talking about, he's 0 for 11.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Pretty impressive.

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I mean, in a way, this is kind of impressive.

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In a certain way.

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In a way.

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In a way.

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In a very specific way.

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If you're impressed by sloppiness, this is impressive.

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I mean, this is a masterclass.

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You'd think you would hit one right.

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I know.

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Well, no.

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Because you know how there's 12 members of the Tribunal of the World?

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Oh, do we stop at 12?

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No, here's number 12.

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Partners.

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Oh, eat cartridges sterilizing you.

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Sure.

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They don't have to, but they choose that chemical to sterilize men.

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What?

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I have no idea what Alex is talking about, and I don't care.

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I don't give a shit.

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I can't possibly imagine what receipt ink has to do with Alex's claim that the globalists

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are putting sterilants on the vaccines, and even what he's saying is 100% true, which

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I'm certain it's not.

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It does not make his argument.

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He is over 12.

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Crayons.

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Bad for your balls.

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That's where we're at.

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That might as well be.

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Might as well be.

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Yeah.

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Unlucky number 13.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Coming right up.

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HCG found in who tetanus vaccine, and it was confirmed that there's all Snopes as well

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as inconclusive.

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Oh, yes.

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The UN admits they ran trials of the sterilant in Kenya and paid women to do it, $10.

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So this is just the headline from that open access library journal paper put out by the

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two anti-vex weirdos.

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Yeah.

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The rest of the stuff is just Alex making up details to fit his narrative.

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None of this shit's real.

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He is over 13.

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Wow.

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Would you be surprised to learn that we get to 14?

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I would be.

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Oh, look at this.

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The Sunday Guardian, ethical questions surround vaccine to reduce fertility.

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Oh, and it's the HCG.

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So this article claims that a clinical trial of a tetanus vaccine laced with HCG was going

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to be run in India, which it claims was announced in the journal Nature Medicine.

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There's no link to the Nature Medicine article, but the article that he is referring to is

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not about a tetanus vaccine laced with HCG.

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It's the same thing about the birth control vaccine that uses a tetanus backbone as a

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carrier.

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It's the same misunderstanding misrepresentation in this Sunday Guardian article.

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Wow.

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The Sunday Guardian article is full of misrepresentations about the original birth control vaccine stuff

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and the author is very clearly reporting erroneous anti-vex narratives, particularly about Kenya.

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So I'm going to go ahead and say that this is just the same old shit.

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Alex is over 14.

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Man.

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And that's where we end.

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Yeah.

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He made it to 14.

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That's, I mean, he's, you know, 14 out of 18 is way better than I would have expected

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from you.

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100%.

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Way better than I would have, well, obviously I was betting on four.

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And that was the smart money.

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It's insane that he made it to 14.

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It's insane that we never will know what those other four were.

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Just like the four other members of the 12 that we'll never know.

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There's layers here.

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Four, four.

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What's four plus four minus two?

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Six, six, six.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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So I was unimpressed by this.

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Were you?

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I found that pretty much all of these articles were about birth control shots that were in

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development over the years, their various times, and almost all of them involve that

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Gerseron Tawar's research.

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Yeah, I was going to say, it seems like all of these are actually the same article or

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people referencing the same stuff.

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Not always the same article, but he's been someone who his entire career has been about

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these birth control studies and research.

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So he's someone who keeps coming up, like in 97 and 2002 and like all of these points

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in time, a lot of them do end up tracing back to his research.

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But yeah, all of it is Alex trying to make this argument that the globalists are putting

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sterilants in vaccines and none of this demonstrates that in any way.

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But of course he thinks he's proven his point and he has not.

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I mean, if you didn't, if you were just passively paying, like not paying attention with him

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saying anti-fertility vaccines, you might get this thought of like, oh, you know what?

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They're probably putting something that'll kill my balls in the MMR vaccine.

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And that's not at all what's going on there.

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But just the words anti-fertility vaccine could be taken a lot of different ways by

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people.

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And that's what he's banking on.

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He's just banking on people not paying attention, being like, oh my God, listen to this guy.

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It's weird that these people have gotten so nuts that it appears like we're like professional

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people are studying them like they're a different subspecies, not subspecies, but like, just

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like they're studying them like, yeah, it's like, where, where are these people coming

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from?

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We need to understand this because they are unrecognizable.

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If I didn't see people who fairly sincerely believe these things online and get messages

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from people about people they know who, you know, fall into these, these modes of thinking,

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I would have a very difficult time believing that anyone believed this shit.

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Yeah, I know.

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You know?

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Right?

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It's becoming like a, something happened that has rewired brains within like the internet

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fucked people up to such an extent.

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Let's say it's 9-11.

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It's like, everything's nuts is weird.

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So Alex is done with this, this segment, the 18, the hot 18, and he comes back and he's

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got a message for Trump and a message for Bill Gates, but he doesn't get to the message

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for Trump.

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Right.

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The message to Bill Gates is other than put me in volume three, I need to be in guardians

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of the galaxy volume three.

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I'm not sure if Bill Gates can help with that, but I think his message to him is just a vague

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threat.

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Now is as good a time as any to have a message to Donald Trump and a message to Bill Gates.

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And I respect Bill Gates and I respect president Trump because they're both very intense, focused,

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dedicated individuals.

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And so I don't want to say I kind of choke when trying to address him.

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It's not that it's that I know they'll watch it.

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And you know, I need to measure my words very, very carefully because I don't say these things

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to be braggadocious or act powerful.

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I want them to know and I want I want Gates to know that he's going to pay and not at

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my hands, but nevertheless, it needs to be said.

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And the thing is, something like that's so dangerous that I'm like a moth to flame.

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I get very excited when I start doing the things that the spirit wants me to do.

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And so I have to control myself and I've promised to be very calm and focused today.

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And I'm going to be calm and I'm going to be focused and I'm going to be a good boy.

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That said, let me cut a three minute ad right now.

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We can run or we're going to go bankrupt.

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We're gonna do it right now.

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Here it is.

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That's great.

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Oh, God.

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That is great.

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Oh, God.

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Bill, Bill, put your pink sweater on.

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You got to see this.

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Alex Jones is telling some stuff.

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Hold on.

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He's going to go to it.

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He's going to go to a real quick ad before he gets to your best.

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And the way he's presenting that is almost like, look, I have to cut a commercial, but

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I don't want to do it when I'm not on air.

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Right.

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Because I would have to stay late.

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I don't like doing stuff outside of these three hours that I'm on the air.

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I got a pretty sweet gig only working for three hours.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to go fucking enjoy my opulence and, you know, you guys keep buying my pills

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and stuff.

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I need to cut this commercial, so you'll continue to buy my pills.

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But also, I don't want to do it later, so I'm going to do it now.

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And then we're going to get to how I hate Bill Gates.

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Man.

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I...

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Man.

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He does do a three minute commercial, too.

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It really does...

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It feels like there's...

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This is just the flat out wild west of just one man's psychosis just being like, there

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are no standards.

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There are no rules.

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No shame.

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I've created my own universe where I'm always king and I'm always the hero.

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And I think that's what makes it so fascinating.

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I think that's why there's no one like him.

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Because other people, even if they are hard, right, like awful folks, they generally behold

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them to some sort of thing that will stop them.

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Like Tucker Carlson could get fired from Fox News.

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Right, right, right, right.

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He would have, you know, he'd be able to make his own podcast or something, but we saw how

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well that worked for Bill O'Reilly.

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Right.

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And they still have something that they need to do in order to make their money and all

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that.

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Right, right, right.

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They still have bosses.

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Even Glenn Beck.

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He has the blaze and stuff.

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Something.

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But like there are the billionaire donors that make that possible.

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He's not going to...

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Alex is just like...

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It is free.

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It is really free.

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It's bad.

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It's horrendous.

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It's not a positive that it's free.

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But that's what...

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Yeah, that is what makes it interesting.

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It's like, you know, if he wants to fuck around and do the world's worst proof ever, he can

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do that.

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He can do it.

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If he wants to ramble about how Bill Gates is going to pay, great.

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Fine.

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If he wants to do a whole episode about how he doesn't like men wearing pink sweaters,

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no one's going to stop him.

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And no one can stop him.

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No.

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Yeah.

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It's wild.

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It's crazy.

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It's like the freedom will be missed once he's gone, but not much.

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No.

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No, no, no, no.

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Not much.

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So Alex is saying that Bill Gates is going to pay, and later he sort of revisits this

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point.

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And there's something I really want to draw sharp focus to, and that is that Alex doesn't

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want offensive violence.

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But.

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Uh, but.

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And so I don't want listeners to do anything offensively because the enemy has killed common

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sense and will turn it into a heyday.

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That's why.

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Yeah.

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Not because people will die.

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My brain cannot be turned off.

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And my brain is saying, son, you claim you're this guy that does the right thing and you're

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not a coward.

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People are coming to inject you on purpose to sterilize you and your family.

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And all these media people are going along with it and and and they just keep looking

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for a fight.

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And they just keep they just keep asking for it, man.

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So here's the thing that I like I said I want to draw focus to.

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Alex is very consistent talking about how he doesn't want offensive violence.

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And yet he does all of these things in order to make the argument pretty explicit in his

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audience's mind that any violence that you might do would actually be defensive.

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Yeah.

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Because they're coming at you with these needles to sterilize you and your family.

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They're going to kill you in a month if you don't act.

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That kind of thing is to rationalize and to encourage people to engage in these acts of

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violence that we would obviously see as offensive, probably terrorist acts.

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And Alex has reframed that in such a way as, no, it's defensive because they want to stick

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a needle in you.

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And that's just how that's that's how his rhetoric works and how he's able to tell himself

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that he's not encouraging terrorism.

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And he is.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Great.

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Yep.

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In service of the government murdering people.

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Interesting.

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That is weird.

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It is an ironic thing that there's a version of self-defense is murdering people because

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the government is trying.

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But then the larger government is on his...

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It's weird.

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It's weird.

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So Alex thinks he proved the vaccine stuff and he says as much here.

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At the end of the first hour, I covered all the mainline admissions that the U.N. since

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the 1980s has been testing sterilants inside vaccines, in many cases on unwitting third

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world populations.

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And so all the rumors about them adding HCG to the vaccines are absolutely true.

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He didn't prove shit.

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And that's I mean, it's clear.

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But Alex, he feels like he's done his work for the day, but he's also still got a bunch

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of show left.

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He's still got two hours left.

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Yeah.

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He's still got a bunch of show left to do.

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And that is not good because he probably feels like he exerted himself quite a bit.

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Yeah.

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Oh no, I believe it.

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And I think he's a little bit mad.

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In fact, we'll just go to that right now.

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Special report.

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Of course.

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The number there on the list so they know where it is.

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I need Snickers.

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It's Obamacare.

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All roads lead to Wiener's laptop.

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Maybe I should just quit and shut the show down.

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Do it.

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Do it.

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Maybe that's like a mind drop here because everybody's just gotten comfortable with living

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under this evil.

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Do you think I want to get up here and talk about some murdering kingpin, like Bill Gates

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and have them try to shut us down constantly?

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You think this is a damn game?

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You think it's a joke?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Fake.

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Fake.

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Fake.

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And all the other followers and all the other BS.

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This is the real world.

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Okay.

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All right, Alex.

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So he's going to quit in the middle of the show.

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He's mad.

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What a child.

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He's so mad.

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This is so childish.

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Yeah.

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He's very mad.

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I don't want kids.

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I don't want to have a kid and I don't want to deal with a child and that's what we're

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dealing with right now.

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Yeah, more or less.

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Alex continues on this theme of, I should just fucking quit.

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This is bullshit.

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Yeah, it is.

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Maybe I should just leave for a month.

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Maybe that's the answer.

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I'll just leave for a month and just let everybody do whatever they want because I can't sit

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here with stacks of UN reports on their own website, how they're shooting Kenyans up to

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sterilize them and then turn on Snopes and they go, it doesn't exist.

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I mean, those are damn criminals.

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Those are our enemies.

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Why don't other people have fight in them?

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Why is the fight going out of us?

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That's a big question.

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When did it happen?

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How did it happen?

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Oh, not having fight in you means you're compliant.

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I mean, I know so many men who were like 6'1", 6'4", big bad ass men, but they like think

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it's powerful to grovel with a girlfriend and act all passive and weak.

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It's like it's a virtue because everyone pats them on the head.

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Dude, you're being primed for destruction.

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You're supposed to be a leader, but you're not a leader, but you can be five feet tall

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and a woman or five feet tall and a man.

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If you want freedom and justice, you're a leader.

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Act like it.

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Whoa.

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Okay.

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I think you should take a month off.

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You can be six foot one and a man and strong, and if you listen to your girlfriend and cater

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to her needs, you are a weak-willed, spineless coward who's going to be taken over by the

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globalists.

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You're going to be marched to a FEMA camp if you buy her flowers.

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But if I'm five foot, I can be a leader.

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If you're disrespectful and insist on everyone bowing to you, you can be a leader.

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Oh, boy.

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I don't know.

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It's unhealthy.

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It's a real perverse view of relationships.

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Perhaps.

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Yeah.

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So you should leave for a month.

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And I believe that even more after this because he starts to sort of ruminate about, like,

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I know how to take care of all this, and of course, that's shooting people.

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Yeah.

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And this is just gross.

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Spoiler alert.

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Warning.

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This is gross.

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Not in any context or content way.

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Just the noises Alex makes.

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They're gross.

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Prepare your ears.

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Great.

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Complying with this thing doesn't empower anybody.

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It's death.

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And I'm just trying to figure out how to not comply with it.

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I mean, I got a good idea how to fight it in the third dimension.

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Guns.

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And that's really the quandary.

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Like, how long do you wait?

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God almighty.

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We are coming for you, John Brennan.

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Let's go to this report.

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We'll come back with phone calls.

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Okay.

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I think if fantasies of murdering your enemies gives you sexual gratification, it certainly

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seems more like he is having some sort of a gratification there than the times that

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he claims that Bill Gates has a boner on TV or whatever.

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But look, dude, I don't know.

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I can't imagine working at Infowars and having this go on and be like, this is good stuff.

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Alex is doing a great show today.

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I'd be worried for the guy.

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He's worrying me.

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Come home to your partner.

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How was work today?

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So good.

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Well, got to say, Alex killed it.

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Started rambling about killing John Brennan.

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Good stuff.

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Great.

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He aimed to talk about 18 articles, got to 14.

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None of them made the point.

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He said, well, you know those noises you don't want me to make anymore.

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He did that, but about murder.

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So I don't know.

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What do we have?

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Chicken?

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Yep.

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Probably.

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Alex promised a surprise that I don't think ever materialized, and it had to do with that

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San Antonio city council.

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His narrative about it was that the San Antonio city council had made it illegal to say China

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virus.

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You're going to get arrested for it.

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I theorized that it was a long report where he did his racist Fentanyl the dragon character.

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You had a different idea.

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Do you remember what you said it was?

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You said it was like, send someone down there to yell China virus.

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That's the only thing that makes sense to me.

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It turns out you were correct.

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San Antonio, home of the Alamo, an American and Texas free speech, now hangs under a shadow

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of tyrants and communists, claiming there is no free speech in San Antonio.

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There is free speech in San Antonio.

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So he just goes around and yells China virus into a bullhorn.

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Cool.

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That's a way to prove.

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I didn't watch the video, but I think he must be in his car or something, because I don't

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know what the fuck he's at.

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I don't hear, from the parts of the report that I was listening to, I don't hear people

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yelling back at him or anything.

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He's just doing the Blues Brothers.

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It's very weird.

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But anyway, you were correct on that.

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I just wanted to give you a point for that.

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Thank you very much.

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I'm two for three today.

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Better than Alex.

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Alex goes to calls, like he promised, and he takes a call from a guy who scares me a

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little bit, and he wants to know if there's any way forward without war.

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You believe that there is any possibility of us having a presence in this platform without

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actually having to go to some kind of war over this?

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Because we're talking about-

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No, sir.

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We're going to be completely taken off everything, and then they're going to start starving us

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to death, and they're going to send robots to kill us.

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But at that point, their whole system is going to be collapsing.

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Their people will be desperately trying to serve it more and more to prop it up, and

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the whole thing's going to go down.

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It will-

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In today's world, violent crime can victimize anyone, anytime.

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Cut off by the break.

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It's got real, real bad clock management here.

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Oh, boy.

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Yeah, so apparently-

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You guys have two-thirds of the government already.

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That's true.

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What are you doing?

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But the other third, globalists.

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Oh, that's fair.

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We're going to have to go to war to get back the house.

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No, it's get on Facebook and Twitter.

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That's what he's mad about.

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So I mean, look, it's not good to talk to your audience, who are maybe not the most

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critical-minded folks, and they ask, is anything possible other than war, and your answer is

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no.

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Because when you've already sort of laid out all sorts of violence as being defensive in

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nature, I'm not for offensive violence, but defensive is, it's totally cool, and a war

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is inevitable, what is stopping you from a sort of reasoning perspective, what's the

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difference between that and advocating, you've got to do something, do you want the robots

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to come, do you want to be starved out until the robots come, what are you going to do?

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That's the message that comes forth pretty clearly from Alex.

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Is there anything we could do to stop a war?

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I don't know, listen to your neighbors?

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No.

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Okay, is there anything else we could do to stop a war?

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Eat your neighbors.

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No, I guess not.

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Eat them.

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So, Alex also has a suggestion that I think is really fucked up, and it's really weird

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to hear this coming from Alex in particular.

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Police officers that have refused to arrest people that run their own restaurants or own

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barber shops, they're being fired.

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I mean, you know, I say you throw out the mayor and you make that police officer the

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mayor.

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That's what we need, is pro-human, common sense people.

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So Alex wants the police departments to take over, they want to overthrow mayors and usurp

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the seat of the city.

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I do like that system.

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I do like that system of succession.

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That's so crazy from Alex.

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Hey, that mayor is mean and I got fired for my job as a cop.

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Well, I guess you're the new mayor.

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Those are the rules.

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From Alex, that is almost unacceptable.

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That's so weird.

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Cops should take over the mayorships.

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Okay.

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But by that measure, though, then if the mayor was a right-wing guy and a cop was like, and

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then he gets fired, then he becomes mayor.

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And then that creates an endless circle of different cops becoming mayor on a day-to-day

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basis.

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One thing that you're adding to this that I think isn't implied is fired.

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You got to get fired.

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I think it's-

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You can't be a cop and the mayor at the same time.

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I think it's cops taking over.

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Okay.

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I mean, yeah, essentially militarized police system, but committing a junta is bad.

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Wouldn't that technically be sort of a form of martial law to-

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It would be, absolutely.

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I mean, it's not the military, but-

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Well, the police are militarized.

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Police state?

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Yeah.

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Oh, Alex made some documentaries about that.

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There you go.

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Yeah, but it was about a road.

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Right, right, right.

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It's about that goddamn road.

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Right, right, right, right.

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So Alex ends this show on the 13th with an interview with a guest who I have not heard

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on before, and the sound is terrible.

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So I apologize for that in advance.

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All right.

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Well, heads up, Yippie.com, and I'm glad he came to Austin before he flies off to another

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meeting.

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Rich Granville is a really active fellow.

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I'm not going to read his long bio here, but he's done a great job.

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So I have no idea why the sound is so echoey or anything.

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There's something wrong with their audio, and it's on their end.

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There's nothing to do with us.

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But anyway, Alex has this interview with the head of a search engine called Yippie, a guy

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named Rich Granville.

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It's fun that Alex is buddying up with Rich, because in the past, let's just say he's been

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a gigantic QAnon supporter.

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Sure.

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In 2019, Mother Jones reported on the Digital Soldiers Conference, which was organized by

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Rich Granville and featured General Flynn and Big Q promoters Bill Mitchell and Joy

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Villa.

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The website promoting the event featured an American flag with the stars rearranged to

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make a Q.

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Boo.

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That's not good.

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Rich claimed that this very obvious QAnon reference wasn't a QAnon reference, though

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he did say that he doubted that Q was a conspiracy theory.

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Rich also described his company Yippie as, quote, an intelligence enterprise with high-level

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White House ties.

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When Mother Jones covered the weirdo conference of his, he apparently warned them, quote,

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you don't know who you're fucking with.

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This was probably because Mike Flynn pulled out as a speaker after Mother Jones reported

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on the very obvious QAnon show.

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All right.

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Well, there's that.

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From the article, quote, I don't give a fuck about the deep state, he said.

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If I could, I would shoot them in the head and throw them in shallow graves and let the

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dogs dig them up, but I can't, because that's illegal.

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At one point during the conversation, Granville abruptly asserted that his IQ was 172.

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Sure.

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Why not?

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Why not?

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Why not?

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Good.

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Good stuff.

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Oh, Dan, the people most likely to scream at you for disrespecting the flag would love

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to turn it into a Q.

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Yep.

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Cool.

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Anyway, this dude is a Q-profiteering weirdo who has this search engine.

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If you remember the CPAC episode that we did, this is the search engine that Ivan Reikland

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was trying to promote when it was his turn to give a speech.

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If I understand the situation correctly, Rich and Yippie are big Flynn fundraisers.

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That conference that he had, the digital soldiers, whatever, that was meant to raise money for

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Flynn's legal defense, so that explains a whole lot.

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It pretty well explains why Mike Flynn Jr. was at the CPAC event to begin with, since

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he was hanging out with a guy who was involved with a company that was putting on fundraisers

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for his dad, and now maybe they're sponsoring Alex's show, but probably not.

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I mean, that would be really stupid.

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That would be a real waste of money, even if you're a weirdo.

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You've got to understand, it's not going to be a good return.

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Oh, man.

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Anyway, here's a couple of clips of this guy being a real fuckhead.

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I think the United States can get through this.

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Europe's done right now.

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They're finished.

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Really?

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The enemies are completely broken, so the only way that we're going to get through this

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is through a God-chosen president like Trump, who is playing 3D chess at a level of superiority

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that no one else can even get to.

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They're so mad because he's so smart.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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So, yeah, Trump is a God-appointed, God-ordained king or whatever.

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Oh, no, I'm sorry, just a president.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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I misspoke.

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God, God appoints presidents, but make sure they adhere to a two-term limit.

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I misspoke.

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I'm sorry.

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He was president, or did I?

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Absolutely.

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Trump was ordained by God to be our king right now, and that translates all the way down

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to his family.

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It was all the prayer hundreds of years, like Providence did that.

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Well, I mean, we went from a Luciferian scumbag like Obama.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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All right, here we go.

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I just can't understand.

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I can't do it.

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I can't do it.

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It hurts my brain.

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Alex's whole shit should be no kings.

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No kings.

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It hurts my brain.

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He is super against kings.

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I am a dedicated constitutionalist, and I care so much about the Second Amendment, I

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am willing to throw away the entire Constitution, just have the Second Amendment, and I want

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a king.

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Yeah.

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I want a king.

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I mean, if he believed any of the things that he pretends to believe in, having this guy

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on, even if he believed in the same person as president that he does, the guy saying

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he's a God-ordained king should be like, get the fuck off my show.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You can't support that.

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No.

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I say, you know, it's 2012, I'm doing a show like Alex's, but on the left, or something.

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I don't even know what that would look like.

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I'm a big Obama supporter.

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I think he's great.

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I approve that he's in the office.

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I think he's doing a lot of great things for the country.

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I have some crazy person on, and they're like, Obama was sent by God and is our king.

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I'm like, I can't talk to you anymore.

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Bye.

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You, you are, you, you are, and Alex is just like, yeah, fuck yeah, and he almost starts

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crying talking about how the prayers of hundreds of years have led to this.

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Oh my god.

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They are so out there.

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I just, I just wish that we were better able to cover these people, because underneath

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so much of this shit is that kind of idea of, and I do maintain the theory that it's

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because the right wing so pushed the idea that Obama was a dictator, that they inadvertently

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created a right wing that didn't think that dictators were bad, they just wanted their

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own dictator.

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You feel like there was a normalization through that, yeah, there might be something to that.

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Because Obama wasn't a bad dictator, if you're insisting that he was a dictator and you're

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one of these right wing guys, you have to be honest and be like, my life didn't really

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change that much, you know?

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I guess one way you could deal with that is be like, well, maybe my ideas about this were

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wrong or you could go the way you're describing and be like, bad dictators, maybe they were.

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Maybe they're good.

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Yeah, I don't know if either of the, I don't think they would come to that conclusion consciously,

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but maybe on some subconscious level, I don't know, that's an interesting thought, maybe

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you should do some research on it.

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I will think about it.

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But whatever the case, I mean, I don't know what, like combination of maybe something

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you're talking about, obsession to strongman leadership, all this, like the perversion

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of individualism, whatever it is, like this is what it comes to.

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And you got a guy here, and Alex, sitting around talking about God ordaining Trump to

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be our king.

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There's nothing more individualistic than submitting yourself to a God king.

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Everybody knows that the way that you really separate yourself and become an individual

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is by, so, oh God, these people are fucking sad.

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I'm so saddened that they're winning.

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Yeah, we have one last clip here, and it's this guy, yippee guy, yippee ki-yi-yi.

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By expressing that, you know, the globalists, right, they worship the devil.

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And by extension, this proves that God's real.

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Well, hey, if they're following Lucifer, then Christ must be real as well, right?

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So there's your double-edged sword.

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That is a very bad level.

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IQ of 170, Dan.

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172.

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Oh, sorry, not bad.

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That is an insanely bad level of thinking.

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Like if the globalists do worship the devil, that doesn't prove the devil's existence.

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No, it does.

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No, it doesn't.

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No, it does.

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And if the devil exists, that doesn't prove God's existence.

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No, it does.

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Proving God's existence doesn't necessarily prove the devil's existence.

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No, it does.

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No, it doesn't.

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None of these things are necessarily true.

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It's just, oh my God, this level of thinking, you just hear it and you're like, I'm sorry,

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guy.

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I don't even care.

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I mean, I'm glad you're able to run a search engine.

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I didn't check it out.

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Maybe it's a good search engine.

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I have no idea.

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But if this is what you're bringing to the table, Trump is a God-ordained king.

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And because the globalists worship the devil, that proves God's real.

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I got nothing for you and I got to go.

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We're going to need to create some sort of stronger way to deal with these people because

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right now it seems like all we're doing is just going, this shit again, and making fun

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of them on Twitter and doing all that shit.

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And there's so many opinion pieces written and all that.

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And there needs to be some sort of united front against this.

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We can't allow them to just threaten everybody with violence while we mock them on Twitter.

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Yeah.

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And I don't know that anything that you can do would really be effective unless we first

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deal with a shared reality.

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There's no real way to deal with anything while realities are so distinct from each

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other that Alex can do that reading 14 headlines instead of 18 as promised and thinking that

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it proves the point that he makes and that being acceptable in one reality.

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Nothing I could do, none of the conversation that we've had could possibly make a difference

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to that.

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They're just different realities.

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And until they're merged, until those realities, we come to a consensus of what is and what

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isn't real and what parts of things that I don't believe are real but you might are acceptable

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for us to disagree about.

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Like let's say I'm an atheist and you're someone who believes in Christianity, there is a perfectly

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acceptable way for me to not believe in a reality of something you believe is real and

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us to be okay with that and move along in our lives.

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The shared reality doesn't have to extend to everything but there's some real basics

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and we're not living in a time or a place right now where everyone shares the same reality

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and the issues that you're bringing up I don't think can be dealt with until we do because

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I always say like education and like critical thinking skills and yeah those are important

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but if they're 20 years behind doing any good, I think they'd still be helpful and I think

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hopefully if you were to tackle some of those problems and work on them to an extent, I

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think that maybe it would help in making people understand shared reality but until that's

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more addressed, I just don't know what you can do.

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And for now, there'll be some people who think Trump is a God appointed king so who cares,

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whatever he does is great and that's really sad.

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That is really sad.

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But Jordan, at the end of the day, we can all take pleasure in knowing that Alex was

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almost almost Star-Lord.

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He was almost Star-Lord.

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God, he would have been a great Star-Lord.

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He's so emotionally vulnerable as well.

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True.

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What makes him a great actor is the way he's able to tap into all of those feelings.

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Yeah and like the capacity for growth is really clear in Alex.

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No, he can portray a lot of different characters.

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Oh boy.

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No matter what, let's say Alex does decide to quit abruptly tomorrow and go away for

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a month and never come back or whatever.

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We will always have that moment when you realize that what he was talking about was-

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It wasn't until he said Kurt Russell was in the second one because I was going through

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it and I was like, oh, he might be talking about Star Trek.

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He might think-

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2001 A Space Odyssey.

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Yeah, it could be fucking anything and then he was like, Kurt Russell's in the second

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one.

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I'm like, that is not real.

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That is unreal.

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But it's amazing.

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Amazing.

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Thank you, Alex.

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Yes.

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In advance for our next episode, that is my bright spot.

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That is absolutely my bright spot.

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And we'll be back, Jordan, on Monday.

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But until then, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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You bet.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledgefight.com.

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Now go to betjordan.com.

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We're on Facebook.

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Indeed.

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And if you'd like to download the show, go to iTunes, Patreon.

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If you would like, please donate to a local charity in your area.

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We would appreciate that.

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You are correct.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm DZXClark.

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I am headlines 15 through 18.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.