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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your world.

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Knowledgefight.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages,

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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How do you feel about steroids in baseball?

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Do you think they should be in the Hall of Fame?

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I don't know, I don't really have a strong position on that.

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I think on a human level, I don't like people using steroids in competition,

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but I also have no...

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You don't have a rooting interest in that.

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Not really.

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I think that's up to the people who are in charge of the Hall, let's say,

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or the MLB or whatever.

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If they want to allow people to juice, then go for it.

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I think it's bad.

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I think you'd end up with people...

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You'd end up with a lot of people really severely harmed by that.

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I think it's not a good thing to do, but if it's...

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Are you going to let them in the Hall or not?

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That's up to you guys.

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Ah, fair.

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How about the Astro sign stealing scandal?

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Are you paying attention to that?

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We talked about this already.

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Have we?

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Yeah, and my response was, I don't know anything about that.

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Oh, that's right.

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Well, it's continuing on.

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Is that right?

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It's never-ending.

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Is it gotten worse?

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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More and more people are calling for the series to be taken away.

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Geez.

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Rob Manfred, the commissioner, is calling the trophy, which has his name on it,

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a little piece of metal.

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It's bad.

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Yeah, that does sound pretty shitty.

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I don't know, man.

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I don't really have any strong feelings about that.

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I'm torn because my sort of chaotic side is like, let them cheat.

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There is a part of it that's like, fuck sportsmanship.

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If you're crafty enough to get away with cheating, go for it.

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But then the other part of me knows that that's no way for...

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It sets a bad precedent.

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Like the cyclists with motors on their bikes for the Tour de France?

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That would probably...

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That might be too far.

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That does have a very serious effect on the purity of the turf, as they say.

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So yeah, I don't know. I think if it were up to me, if I were in charge...

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Yes, that's a good question.

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I would not allow it.

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You wouldn't allow it.

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But I will never be in that position where I'll have any impact on that.

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Fair, fair.

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So I don't really have a strong feeling.

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Cut to the world being stranger than 30 years and you're the commissioner of MLB.

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That makes sense.

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Yeah, that would be insane.

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Yeah, why not?

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I could see it happening.

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Give me a plausible series of events that would lead to you there.

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I apply on LinkedIn.

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Gotcha, gotcha.

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Gotcha.

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Absolutely.

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Monster.com, is that still around?

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ZipRecruiter, I think.

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Oh, that's the new one?

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I think they're looking for ZipRecruiter, yeah.

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No, probably won't happen.

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I do not know much about this stuff, but Jordan, I do know a lot about Alex Jones.

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Oh, and I know a lot about the former and nothing about the latter.

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Right.

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So today, Jordan, what I thought we would do here on this here Wednesday episode is

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I think that our last episode was a little too much.

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A little too murder heavy.

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A little murder-y?

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A lot of murder.

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A lot of Alex calling for that Cambridge professor to kill herself.

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Yeah, he needs to go on timeout.

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We've kind of turned into a preemptive true crime podcast.

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It doesn't feel that way.

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We're watching true crime happen.

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Yeah, and you know, the present day has so much stuff going on in it that you feel like

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it's really felt like you need to keep up with what Alex is doing.

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And I still do believe that, but I need to put him in timeout.

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Yes, please.

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So we needed to take, we need to take an excursion off into something completely different.

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Good.

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And you know, it could have been, you know, could have been a Bill Cooper episode, but

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I almost feel like that's too close.

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I'm waiting for you to be like, and John Wayne Gacy was on Bill Cooper's show.

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So let's talk about that.

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No, no, no.

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That seems too close.

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Yeah.

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So I wanted to even go far afield of that.

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And so I've got some, something fun, I think.

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Good.

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To go over.

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But before we get down to that, Jordan, we got to take a moment to say thank you to some

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folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.

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So first, Abby, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Abby.

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Next, John, thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you John.

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Thank you John.

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Next, Heather, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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Thanks Heather.

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Thank you Heather.

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Next, Cynthia.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you Cynthia.

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Thank you Cynthia.

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Next, Eve Vokative, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Eve Vokative.

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Yeah then Hal, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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nonprofit.

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Okay. And then finally I'd like to say thank you to a couple people donated on an elevated level

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and we appreciate that very much. So John with no H, P, John P, you are now a technocrat. And Jeffrey,

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thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson,

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all right? Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimped so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, John P. And thank you so much, Jeffrey.

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Yes. Thank you very much to the both of you. And also thank you to Hal. I forgot to say thank you.

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Oh yeah. Very rude of you.

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Yeah. It was very rude.

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If you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show. I'd like to support these

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jets too. You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com. There's a button there that

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says sports show. You can click it and thank you. It would be lovely. So Jordan, back in 2017.

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Yes. When we were young. Well, you know, that's when we, I mean,

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we started the podcast in January of 2017. And then a little ways down the road,

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we started doing project Camelot episodes because I wanted to tell you about the wonderful world of

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wacky space. It was a wonderful, wonderful world for a short period of time. Along the way,

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it has become less fun. It has become less fun.

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As we learn more things about the sorts of people that hang around that get interviewed

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by Carrie Cassidy and some of the opinions that Carrie may herself hold.

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Yeah. Scratch a scammer. And it turns out they hate Jews. It's really weird.

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And maybe not hate, but have weird feelings about, and maybe hate, I don't know. So

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it became less fun. And it's just this, it's become a thing where I want to do more space

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weirdo episodes and project Camelot, but also it really, it only makes sense really when

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Mark Richards comes around, who is a guy who's a murderer and a true crime podcast.

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He is a space captain who has a, uh, a living spaceship Minerva that flies around with and

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Raptors will kill you for chocolate. Occasionally occasionally as a Lieutenant cellmate.

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Yes, but he's never mentioned again, brought up once and then disappeared.

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So I was thinking about it and like when we started this, it was in 2017. Also,

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it was when we first had our project Camelot thing and it was not a Mark Richards episode.

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That was our second episode. The first one was about Randy Kramer, who was a super soldier,

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allegedly who has access to holographic med beds that will regenerate you and what have you. And I

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started to think about it as like, why did we do that? It couldn't have just been that I thought

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something was weird about space and I wanted to tell you about it, even though, you know,

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there is some element that wasn't what precipitated that. That wasn't what prompted it.

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What was it? What was Randy Kramer in specific therefore?

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Well, here, here's what I want to tell you. I remembered that the reason that we did that

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episode in the first place was that Alex Jones had an interview with a guy named Robert David Steel,

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who had come on his show and said that kids are being kidnapped and taken to Mars bases.

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Yes, that's true. And he caused a severe backlash for Alex of everyone being like,

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you think there's bars bases. I never said that. So here is that clip from Alex's show back in

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2017, where Robert David Steel came on and was talking about how kids are being kidnapped and

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taken to space. Let me see what Robert David Steel has to say. Go ahead. No, I agree with that. And

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let me just point out, let me just point out that pedophilia does not stop with sodomizing children.

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It goes straight into terrorizing them to adrenalize their blood and then murdering them.

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It also includes murdering them so that they can have their bone marrow harvested as well as body

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parts. Pedophilia is much bigger. This is the original growth hormone. Yes, yes. It's an

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anti-aging thing. And this may strike your listeners as way out, but we actually believe

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that there is a colony on Mars that is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space

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on a 20-year ride. So that once they get to Mars, they have no alternative but to be slaves on the

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Mars colony. There's all kinds of... He's right. Look, I know 90% of the NASA missions are secret,

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and I've been told by high-level NASA engineers that you have no idea. There's so much stuff

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going on. But then it goes off into all that. I mean, that's the kind of thing the media jumps on.

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But I know this. We see a bunch of mechanical wreckage on Mars, and people say, oh, look,

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it looks like mechanics. They go, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. Clearly, they don't want us

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looking into what's happening. Every time probes go over, they turn them off. Alex, you're one of

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the most original guys on the air. And you asked, what should you do? I think you should be the

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truth channel in America. So there was a real lack of any kind of pushing back or anything,

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Alex. It was like, hey, man, look, often these theories go into this sort of thing. But hey,

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man, everything's secret, and they're doing crazy shit. Who knows? 90% of NASA's missions are

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secret. Right, right. So what Alex's response was to Robert David Steele saying that the kids are

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being kidnapped and taken to Mars bases was like, maybe. Yep. Why not? It wasn't like show your

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work. So Alex deserved all of the criticism that he got for that. And that is what precipitated us

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to go down the road of looking at project Camelot to begin with. Yes. Now, recently Carrie got

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interviewed by Robert David Steele within the last week or two, I believe. Oh, shit. Yeah,

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it was pretty recent. And so I decided why not? If we have this lack of joy in going through these

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project Camelot episodes, why not see if we can recapture some of the magic by going back to the

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beginning? Let's flip it around. Right. Absolutely. To move forward, you must go back. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, absolutely. Start at the beginning. Yeah. So anyway, Robert David Steele has his own YouTube

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channel that he's putting up videos on and spoiler alert, the interview that he did after this one,

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the most recent interview, uh, when I just checked was with, uh, Jim Fetzer. Okay. Hey,

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wrote the book. No one died at Sandy hook, right? He just lost the lawsuit over, right? Yeah. So he

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has some pretty good ability to pick out the guests. We can't all be heroes, dude. So I wanted

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to go over this and there's gonna, you know, there's some stuff that might be a little bit meh,

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but there's a couple of things in here that I found to be like, this is what I'm looking for.

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This is the project Camelot stuff that I've been missing. So, uh, we'll get to that as we go along,

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but Robert David Steele opens this up by, uh, uh, just giving Carrie a glowing intro.

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Carrie Cassidy, several years ago, I started reading in the extraterrestrial paranormal,

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um, nonfiction, uh, domain. And I also started researching online and project Camelot

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immediately popped up as one of the top websites in the world. And I remember getting in touch

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with you. And I remember us having conversations over time. I've been just tremendously impressed

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by, by what you have accomplished and what you're trying to communicate to people.

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So please tell us a little bit about just how you got started very, very briefly,

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and then talk about some of your classics that are available on your website today.

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Some of the classics. People have introduced Mandela with less glowing reviews.

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I bet Robert David Steele would. This guy's a communist. That's fair. That's fair.

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God, classics like Mark Richards is, uh, 13 or so. 13? No, probably 11. Oh, man. But he's been

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interviewed a lot. Eddie Page being a racist alien. That's classic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That

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one's in the top five guy with telescope classics. So anyway, Gary gets into talking about some of

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the big hits, uh, from the past. And, uh, you know, I have some thoughts about a couple of them.

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We were very lucky. And in other words, we not only were approached by top witnesses and,

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and people of that nature, but we also, uh, went seeking the very top people. And for some reason,

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uh, we were able to get through to them quickly and easily. And in the first year,

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we must've talked to some of the best people that ever have come out on this topic or

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people who said that they were the best sources on this topic. It's, it's kind of indistinguishable

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at a certain point. You got at some point, you got to give people your trust and you got to open

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yourself up to trusting people. I agree with you in theory, but this isn't going to be the time.

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Okay. So we get into some specifics and one of them is a name that we haven't talked about,

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but actually it's someone with a fairly interesting, uh, bit of backstory.

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We've got a, a very long segment, uh, segmented interview with myself, my former partner,

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Bill Ryan and David Wilcock, all interviewing one person, uh, Dr. Pete Peterson, who has since

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passed away, uh, as of about a year ago, but he was a sort of a doctor strange love, uh,

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in the secret space program and very instrumental, uh, behind the scenes also involved in the

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creation of what you call super soldiers today. So those are a few, uh, captain Mark Richards

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came much later in our Camelot history, but, uh, he's also one of the top witnesses.

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Sure. He is. So he was a doctor stranger. So Dr. Pete Peterson was also a Nazi.

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Please define your terms. You can't just call someone a doctor.

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Strange. He's a Nazi, right? I don't know. Oh man. So Pete Peterson is a bit of an old school name

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in the paranormal conspiracy type worlds. He, uh, not super old school, but, but I mean,

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we're in 2020 now, so it's a ways back, right? You know, I think his initial, like the project

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Camelot interview was like 2009 or something. So, you know, it's a decade old. I'm going to call

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that old school old enough. Maybe not 1950s, 1970s alien guy. But anyway, he's made a whole ton of

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claims over the course of his career. A bit of it having to do with his alleged former employment,

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when he was a reverse engineering alien technology. Sure. Interestingly, I was looking

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into him a little bit and I was able to find a message board thread from September, 2017 on

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project Avalon, which is the website that carries former partner, bill Ryan. Uh, he's been running

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since he made a split with Camelot. Okay. So they just, they, now they're just two different

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projects. Yes. Okay. Parted ways. He might've been running project Avalon prior to that too,

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but it's like his, uh, right, right, right. Gotcha. And I'll be honest, I don't know a

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fucking ton about bill Ryan. I've tried to watch some of the interviews that he does.

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I find them incredibly boring. Um, like most of this stuff is quite honestly. Um, but there are

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a few things that make me think like, all right, this guy is not great, but at least he's not the

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worst because he doesn't believe the Mark Richard stuff. Um, and I found this thread and it shows a

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little bit of character at least. So here's the first line that sticks out to me in this thread

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in this post quote, there's strong reason to believe that Peterson was lying knowingly or

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confabulating when he told David Wilcock about the presence of armed police, how his belongings,

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including his truck were being seized and much of it was being bulldozed into a pit.

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So as it turns out, Jordan, this guy's house, Pete Peterson's house, it was being foreclosed

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on. Right. And that story ended up getting told as a secret government attack on him for spilling

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truths or something. In reality, it appears that he was basically a hoarder. And when his house

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ended up getting taken care of, they ended up finding three dead cats inside and just like a

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complete chaos, toxic environment. So that should give you some idea of what was going on. Like,

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this is not a situation where there's a secret government bulldozing order with armed guards

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trying to keep Pete Peterson away from his house. That's not good. He wasn't even living in that

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house at the time. Right. It's all very complicated and wild. Of course. So that main post

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that I was reading to you from on this message board, it was written by Bill Ryan. It's not just

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some user on the, on the board saying it it's Carrie's former partner. He goes on to say quote,

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close examination of Peterson's testimony causes me personally to suspect there is a high

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probability that some of the information he presented in the 2009 project Camelot interview

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was inaccurate, exaggerated, or invented. I do not anymore believe he was a reliable witness then,

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and certainly not now. Put simply, this post is basically Bill Ryan saying that their interview

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with this guy was bullshit. He says, quote, we did not see documentation, his DD214, any devices

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which he had or had made, never saw his laboratory and never even visited his house at the time.

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We did, and this is in capital, this word is in capital letters. A great job. No due diligence.

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I was, I saw that go in a different way. No, there's even reason to question his educational

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credentials. So apparently some folks who looked into the college that Peterson claimed to have

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a degree from found that it's a degree mill that likely wasn't even in existence at the time when

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he was supposed to have been in school. So he didn't even get his fake degree. It's unclear.

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I don't know. I'm taking, I'm taking a little bit of this patchwork investigation that these people

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on the message board have done. Cause I don't really care all that much. It speaks volumes

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that Bill Ryan made a followup post after a bunch of people had shown even more reason to doubt

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Pete Peterson story. And Bill said, quote, I'm very close to making a public statement of apology

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that project Camelot did not do any due diligence at the time. And that at least some of what

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Peterson shared with us may have been fictional as each day passes, it looks more and more to be the

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case. Uh, man, I, I don't like how you need each day passing. I feel like you didn't need the day.

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So you could have just, yeah, maybe an hour, maybe, maybe an hour is what it takes. Suffice

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it to say that this was a situation where it appears that Peterson was not a mentally well

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person who was elevated and used to validate space weirdo theories based on things he was

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just making up, which seems like a pattern with these people. It seems like there's a lot of these

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folks that we ended up running into. So you're saying they took advantage of a guy who had,

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uh, mental issues in order to support their own narratives and continue their own grips.

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It seems like that is a very high out of character for them. As it turns out Peterson's main booster

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was David Wilcock, who is a top to your space weirdo con man who believes himself to be the

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reincarnation of Edgar Casey. And it's just, he's too prolific of a dude to get into as a side note

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on this episode. One day we'll eventually actually do an episode about David Wilcock, but like,

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he's so prolifically, like he's done so much. There's so many speeches to like try and figure

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out, all right, which one should we cover? He's just too, he's like the ubiquitous and he's like

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a buckshot. It's all over the place. There's so much to it that I would have such a hard time

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sitting down and like figuring out, all right, here's, what's important. I imagine it will still

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only take me about an hour to disbelieve anything. Maybe like a minute. Okay. So it very much seems

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to me from what I've been able to, uh, suss out, it seems like David Wilcock was using Peterson

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and an article that I found on a website called bended reality really reinforced this feeling.

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This article is from December 21st, 2019, which is a little bit after Peterson had died.

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Apparently after Pete passed away, David Wilcock did an interview where he was claiming that Pete

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had given a deathbed confession, where he was getting ready to come forward about quote,

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his experiences visiting 60 to 65 different off planet locations among with other sensational

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tales. So close to giving that deathbed confession. So close. So close. So the thing I want to point

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out here is like some of these space weirdos, like some of it's fun and dumb, but some of these

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people are really shady. They'll profit off you as long as you're useful to the grift and

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their industry. But then when you die, they'll try to profit off you. Oh yeah. Yeah. What are

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you going to stop trying to get a profit off of the golden goose? It just really bums you out.

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Yeah. It's a real bummer. If the golden goose dies, you just sell tickets to see the dead

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goose, man. Doesn't matter. So Carrie has this interview that they did with Pete Peterson. I

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was like, this was a grand thing that we did. And then another one is a Mark Richards. Like

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your list is not great. So Robert David Steele gets down to talking about like what the topics

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he wants to cover are. There are four quick things I want to ask you about. The whole human

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trafficking thing, the bases on Mars and elsewhere, the kinds of spaceships that we seem to have had

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for the last 20 years. I think the president's secret space force is actually a way of justifying,

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legitimizing a force that has always existed without congressional approval. Absolutely. Which

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is why I think Donald Rumsfeld did not lose $2.1 trillion. It was spent on the secret space force

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and underground bases. And then I want to end up by asking you about super soldiers. So let's take

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these one at a time, very brief, the Carrie Cassidy understanding. I want to give Robert

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David Steele a tiny bit of kudos. And that is again, in terms of the interview styles that I

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end up seeing, he's all business. Yeah. He does. He is at least like he's, you'll see, I don't know

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if you'll be able to tell just because these are clips as opposed to like listening to the whole

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interview, but he does try and stay on focus, which is something I, I find novel. Yeah. I can't

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remember the last time. Is he going to stick to these four topics? Okay. See, now this is wild

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because Alex usually will give you a list of topics and then never touch on it. It almost

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feels like this dude has notes. Yeah. Okay. Here are the bullet points. He's got bullet points.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I, it's faint praise though. Cause I also think he's, uh, a little

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bit, uh, you know, I mean, uh, it would be, you know, it's faint praise to say that, uh,

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Donald Trump could write a hamburger essay for instance. He couldn't, but it would be

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faint praise if he could, the, the thing that I find is like, okay, so these four topics are

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going to be like, those are all like right where Carrie can hit a dinger out of the park. But like

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when you have like, okay, I think that Trump is making this space force in order to legitimize

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the secret space program. I love it. That's a good angle, right? I mean, that is one possibility.

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Another possibility is, uh, he wants, uh, space wars. Yes. That is also possible. Agreed. The

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behavior is indistinguishable. So we're doing something completely loony and someone legitimizing

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the secret space program. Yeah. Very similar in terms of external appearances. That's tough.

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Yeah. I it's hard to parse whenever, uh, uh, all things are possible, I guess. Uh, certainly.

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Yeah. Chaotic evil can manifest in many different ways. And that's why you have to take things with

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external context in issues like that. I can't tell you why Trump is doing that. I have no idea,

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but if they're going to make that argument, then I will rely on other things that are said

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in order to help me deduce whether or not I should trust what they're saying. You should

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be listening to what is unsaid. Dan, obviously it's obviously it's the notes you don't play,

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buddy. So they're talking about, uh, aliens abducting people right from earth. By the way,

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by the way, so much happier to be talking about. Absolutely need a break from Alex.

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So they're talking about the, you know, and I'm, I'm not here to be Mr. Squaresville and say that

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no one gets abducted by aliens. That would be lame. That would be lame. Yeah. I do think the

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scale that they're talking about here, paid attention to like what you think it might be

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noticeable. I think what Carrie is saying is impossible. What's your understanding of the

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degree to which human beings are traded as a food source and as a, uh, as a chemical high source?

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The degree, uh, is, is, is very high. Um, I, you know, I, I already talking about a percentage of,

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of humans that are, are taken off planet, et cetera. I don't know. Um,

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we're missing 8 million people a year. What, uh, is it in that range?

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It's it's, I would say it's around 20%. It could be higher than that one in five have been abducted

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or are abducted or are being abducted as we speak. They are specifically talking about a food source.

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Yeah. I don't think they're coming back. I doubt it. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. So aliens can

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get high off their blood. I don't think they're going to be like, Hey, you just, you know, you

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do five years as a hallucinogenic blood source and then we'll bring you back. Everything's fine.

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Everybody goes about the business. It's not like a year abroad or whatever. You just come back from

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with stories about your time in London. I feel like I've been a one-on-one class where the

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professor's like, look to your left, look to your right in front of you and back. One of the five

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of you will be abducted before the end of this class. One of you will be food.

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I would, it does seem high. Cause you know, Robert David steel is saying like, there's

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8 million people that go missing. Like 8 billion or 8 million is way lower than 20% of the world.

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What's that? 1.5 billion. I'm not entirely sure. Cause it would, if it was 20%, those people are

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probably not on the census or like they're not included in the population. So you'd have to

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assume now we don't even know how many people there are. Right. It should be 20% more. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. This to me, see, and this indicates either like just a inability to like estimate

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20% of the population, or she actually believes like there's a billion people that are being

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taken. Yeah. Does, does that mean that our memories are being wiped? So we don't remember

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any of these people because in this aspect, there's no way that it would not affect each

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and every person on the planet in some way. Well, I mean, assuming, you know, five people,

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I mean, even assuming, you know, one person who knows another person who knows another person,

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like there's no way not to be affected by the six degrees of Kevin Bacon's abduction. I don't

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believe stories of friends of friends. Okay. I don't believe any of it. I don't believe

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that's because they're been abducted. Probably. Yeah. So I obviously think this number is a little

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high. Okay. And I also think these people, so what do you think? 10% 12% somewhere out there.

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Okay. That's reasonable. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 20 ridiculous, ridiculous. Carrie justifies this

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number by pointing to like how this could happen. Okay. We're talking about also during wartime.

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This is a perfect, or is a perfect cover in which, according to Mark Richards, the reptilians can

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come in through the portals in the middle East and abduct large numbers of humans to be used as

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slaves and, and for these other purposes. Right. That's fascinating. It's pretty fascinating.

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Yeah, I guess so. I guess that's one way to like not have to emotionally wrestle with the fact

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that humans do wars against each other. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty hard. Yeah.

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You know, that's, that's tough to deal with. It really is difficult to explain when you get

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down to it. Sure. And the feelings of culpability that you would naturally maybe have to deal with

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about like the things that your country's foreign policy is involved in and that that's hard. So

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instead aliens are coming through Stargates and snatching up a billion people. I still,

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I don't know which one's worse. I'm going to be honest with you. I think I'm, I think on the

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whole, we might be better off with the, uh, with the wars, I guess probably fewer casualties,

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but assuming that the alien one isn't real, fair. It is better to believe that one. That's a good

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point. It feels better. It does feel a lot better, right? Because it's, we're all, we're all united

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against us, a unified enemy. Exactly. Just somebody, or we should know it. Yeah, we should

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be everyone else, but a lot of people have the, uh, very nice. So you got to carry saying war

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is probably how it's done. Most likely. All of these wars are just the alien snatching people.

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Robert David steel has another possibility. I've been very interested in the illegal

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alien issue ever since 2002, when I predicted that there would be a mass migration into Europe.

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And I realize as you're speaking that there's no way of tallying up the number of refugees

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that leave the middle East and the number that arrive in Europe, there's a Delta in there. Ah,

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so you see people leave a country, try and migrate somewhere. We don't know how many people left,

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how many people arrive aliens. Okay. Okay. Snap. I don't, I, I don't accept his premise.

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No, I don't. Maybe we can't get an exact tally, but people who are good at estimating things

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might assume that it's fewer than 1.5 billion who are migrating, but it's also probably

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more comfortable to assume it's alien snatching people up then like people die trying to flee

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countries. Yeah. It's probably much easier to like play around with alien ideas than to recognize,

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like, uh, some people end up completely displaced. They end up in a place that they didn't intend to

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go through some crazy circumstance. Someone kidnaps them and human traffics them along

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the way. Sure. Those things do happen and they're terrifying. There's only one type of alien,

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only one type of refugee. And that's a space refugee. Dan, everybody else is kidnapped or

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abducted or alien, I guess. I guess so. So this, this, uh, I guess, do you like steal,

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I guess it's just sort of like, that's good enough for this topic. Let's move on. Let's move on to

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Mars bases. Put a check Mark there. Yeah. So here we get into the bases. Okay. And remember

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Robert Davis seal three years ago was on Alex's show saying that he believes that Mars is,

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there's bases and, uh, they're taking kids. They're slave children. Where do you think

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based on all the witnesses you've talked to, uh, that we have bases, uh, small cities and

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fully functional, um, uh, uh, you know, whatever. All right. Well, as far as I'm concerned, we have,

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uh, we have bases on the moon and Mars, uh, according to multiple witnesses. I mean,

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this is a very, very common knowledge at this point. Two or three, everyone knows

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two or three, at least everyone knows. Common knowledge, common knowledge, common knowledge.

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We've got moon and Mars base course. Also the moons of Saturn and Jupiter. We've been

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terraforming those, which I'm not sure how far along we are, but, but apparently that's quite

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a substantial colony or colonies. And then also off planet, uh, not only off planet, but out of

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the solar system. So going interstellar in essence, uh, according to Mark, for example, the Raptors

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have taken around 200,000 humans that are on a planet that is much farther away than

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from our solar system. There are many, many earth-like planets, even conventional scientists

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will admit. And, uh, those earth-like planets out in the multiple solar systems out there are, are

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where humans would be taken, uh, and abducted to et cetera. I find that fascinating. He finds a

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lot of things fascinating. I'm sensing that he has a very standard response. Yeah. I would say

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that if I'm, if I'm recalling things correctly, Mark Richards is friends with the Raptors and

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they're supposed to be the good guys, but now they've kidnapped 200,000 people and taken them to

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some sort of, uh, they all worked for Hershey's dad. They were all carrying chocolate at the same

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time. They population of Hershey, Pennsylvania. Ooh, that's a good question. It's 200,000 less

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than it should be solved the case. There we go. I think that that makes them bad guys. We've not

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into an alien. Uh, you are, you are coming over to my side. I don't know. I don't know if I was

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ever opposed to it. I just try and stay neutral. You can't stay neutral in the Raptor reptilian

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battle. I take information as it comes to me and Carrie is a Raptor sympathizer. And even she

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is saying that they've taken 200,000 people to some weirdo alternate earth planet. And to me,

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I find that troubling. It does seem like even in the fake, even in the fake reality, these guys

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are always on the side of the bad guy. It does seem that way. So that's enough for bases because

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we've established it's common knowledge. There's bases all over the place. Absolutely. And so now

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we get into the super soldier question. Sure. Now what about super soldiers is that, uh, I've,

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I've read about, I've read about age reversion. Um, so tell me about your sense of the technologies

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that have been used to create super soldiers, not only in the outer space context, but here on earth.

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Um, okay. Well, we're talking about transhumanism in that case. And this is something that they

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are doing and have been doing since, since my understanding is the Duncan of Finian was the

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first model super soldier in which he was enhanced, also had additional psychic abilities and powers

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and making use of what we call Oregon. It's also called Kundalini in the East. Ah, yes.

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Uh, Duncan of Finian, someone that, uh, Carrie and a project Camelot interviewed a while back. And,

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uh, you can find a bunch of, uh, people who have dug into him and been like, no, no, come on.

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He's got psychic ability. He's the, according to Carrie, he's the first super soldier. Amazing.

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She was able to talk to the first one. Yeah. I still think it's Kurt Russell, but okay.

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Um, so you got this guy, he's been augmented. It's transhumanism. None of this is very specific.

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It's all, it's all very, uh, uh, just like saying words. He has psychic, he has other psychic

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abilities as well. I'm not sure what they are. You know, it's really like any and all psychic

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abilities would be something I would list to really fucked up in his project Camelot interview.

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I was listening to it and he's like 10 years from now, there will be a podcast that makes fun of me.

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He was a psychic. That is not true. That bit did not go well. You don't need to be a psychic to

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have predicted that that bit would not land. That's like your opening bits on our guests,

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uh, appearances. So, uh, you know, we got this Carrie talked to the first super soldier in the

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program has been going on ever since that dude. Uh, but Hey man, look, it's not just

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the U S to make super soldiers. Of course Nazis wanted it too.

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So the Nazis were also the first people at least in this, um, sort of century, I guess,

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uh, in the last hundred years that were went down the road of creating a super soldier. So

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we were not the first, it came from the Nazis and they were a universal soldier. In fact is a movie

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that there we go. I forget which universal soldier it progressively, those there's a sort of series

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of universal soldier movies, some dolphin grin in there that really goes back and depicts the Nazis

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and the progression of the development of the super soldier. You know, they like to hit hide

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in plain sight. So if any, this helps also when there are leaks, because what they can basically

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say is they can say, Oh, it was just a movie or the person just saw it. They have a big imagination

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in a movie. So I have no idea which a universal soldier movie Carrie's talking about here,

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but I assume it would have to be one of the direct to video sequels, which you kind of have to

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forgive me. I didn't watch those. Yeah, no, me neither. Uh, this seems like a weird plan to me.

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I kind of understand if your predictive programming stuff is in popular media,

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like the original universal soldier movie, but it doesn't really make sense for that plan to

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extend to the like horribly unsuccessful stuff that no one's seen. Admittedly, I don't believe

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in this kind of shit at all, but I also insist that if you're going to play that game, you have

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to at least have some kind of a standard, not everything could be predictive program, right?

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Right. Like an unpublished script. Can't be predictive programming. A failed pilot cannot

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be predictive programming. You have to have a line. What about time cop? I feel like that's

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in between universal soldier and universal shoulder is directive. Time cop came in out in

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theaters. Fair, fair. That is, I will give you a pass. I don't believe it. I don't agree with you,

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but you're playing a fair game. You heard it here. You're not paying, you're not playing fair. If

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you're using a direct to direct these equals. Yeah. It's not good. I agree. No, I agree. So

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I'm glad we're in agreement there. Yes. So Robert David Steele is like, Hey, you know, like super

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soldiers. I've heard of steroids. Is that like steroids? Are they giving them steroids? That's

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a reasonable question. Super soldiers die a young age. Do they kind of like, you know, and we've had

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a problem with steroids in the NFL and in the military. And if you take enough steroids, your

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spine ends up collapsing. Does the super, super technology basically eat the beast or do they

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survive it? Well, my understanding is we're talking about technology that is enhancing

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creating sat cyborgs. And this is, this is to actually, actually better the human body so that

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it's, it can live longer, be more durable and, and obviously fight and, and do all the things

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they want it to do. So bigger, faster, bigger, faster, better, that sort of principle. You know,

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Jordan, there was a documentary that came out a while back about steroids called a bigger,

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stronger, faster, just shockingly close to the words Carrie used to describe these definitely

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not steroid super soldier stuff. But maybe, maybe, maybe that documentary was predictive

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programming. So I would think that she's actually talking about steroids when she uses almost the

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name of that documentary. Yeah, that could be, that could be, where do you stand on cyborgs

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getting into the hall? Dan? I look, it's up to the hall. I don't have a strong position on it.

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I'm not involved. I'm going to go with interstellar 9999 is predictive programming because that had

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deaf punks, great song, harder, better, faster, stronger in it. It must be. Yes, that must be it.

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So when we first did our first project Camelot episode, it was about Randy Kramer, super soldier.

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Yes. And of course now they're having this conversation. He comes up and would you know,

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I don't remember this, but it does seem like he probably did talk about it. He's had magic limbs

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replaced. Okay. Sorry. I don't know if that's ever been documented or proven, but he's, you know,

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he's had magical limb regrowth or something. I'm not sure. All right. This gets to carry down

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another path where we've already had universal soldier predictive program, right? Documentaries,

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we get another instance of that. It's just all fucking movies and TV shows. There are a number

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of super soldiers out there. Randy Kramer talks about even having that the technology exists to

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replace limbs or, or parts of the body that get, uh, just, you know, destroyed in, in a battle.

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He says that it's happened to him that he's had certain parts replaced and, and, and so on.

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Advanced form of cloning. So you can basically grow an arm back.

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Yes. But there's also, uh, I don't know if you've seen the television series Fringe in which the,

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this was started back in the time of the Nazis. It has to do with parallel and going over to

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parallel L earth where you have a double. All of us have doubles in parallel earth. This is in

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essence, you might say in the yin and yang of the being we call earth, that would be the dark side

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of earth. And in essence, you have to go to another dimension to cross into that dimension

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to access those individuals. But they like in the movie Fringe or the TV show, uh, they're being

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brought across to, uh, to, to like the person in this dimension has, um, been close to death or

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dying and they will be replaced by one that crosses over. In fact, there's also a, a television

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series called Counterpart, which depicts the same thing, uh, in, uh, after, since Fringe.

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I'm not sure if you're going to be able to really strengthen your argument that life is like Fringe

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by pointing to another TV show. Yeah, yeah, no, it's a lot like the first TV show because you

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saw the second TV show doesn't help me really double predictive program. Although I will say

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that Fringe is at least like more popular than the universal soldier sequel. So at least you're

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playing the right game here. I'm not going to be too mad about it. I liked Fringe. It was great.

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I liked really interesting. I never heard of Counterpart Showtime Fringe at least. Yeah. I

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think it was a little bit, maybe too ambitious from what I recall, but I, I, it was interesting.

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There was a lot of really interesting stuff. Absolutely. It is. It is never well acted

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Joshua Jackson. He was showing people. He's still got it. I don't know if he did that,

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but it did show people. He's still there. I am not just Dawson's Creek and skull and bones

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or the faculty. Which one was it? I can't remember. No, it wasn't the faculty. Yeah,

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not even Devin Sawa. They just do not have the creativity necessary to write their own shit.

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Well, that's why Carrie Cassidy is a bad, she's a failed screenwriter. She talks about that quite

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a bit. Yeah. We're trying to get work in Hollywood. Yeah. She just can't do it because she's not

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creative enough to lie her own lies. I, I, I, I'm not sure if that's all that the phenomenon is,

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but it is fascinating to me how just this like what I can't get around is like the picking and

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choosing. Yeah. Like, okay. Yes. You've taken fringe to be reality. What about, um, that one

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Dawson's Creek? What about that one show where there wasn't electricity? Uh, do you know that

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one? What about that? Is that real? What is that real? Yeah. The 100 let's just go with that one

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lost lost real. Can I pretend lost is real? Yeah. I mean like, okay, there's an island that has

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regenerative properties and no one can find it on a map because it's constantly moving and time

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travel. Can I do that? I assume so. Why doesn't carry? I don't know. I want to pretend that

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Ally McBeal was real, but I just can't live that life. Well, that's, that's the thing. The picking

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and choosing. Why, why is it fringe? Yeah. Why? Like it's, it's, it, I don't know because it's

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not, and it's not even like it's quality based because it's not like, cause I thought fringe

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was good, but we're, we just came from the universal soldier direct to video shit. That's

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true. You know, it's quality seems like it should matter. Like I want to good television. Here's

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my point that I was trying to get to. I was having a tough time putting my finger on it. Yeah. If I

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were to make arguments, probably to Carrie, that lost is real. Sure. She would not go along with

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it. Well, maybe she would, but that's a good question. If you were making them to Carrie,

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I think she would go along with them. If you were making them against Carrie, I think she would say

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that lost is bullshit. Well, right, right. It's like, I just, I don't, I don't understand. I

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don't, I don't get it. Now this next clip is probably the reason that I decided to do this

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episode because the crux, this, this is where like it gets real. So we're talking about like,

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don't use that phrase. It gets real. I'm into this. Okay. So you got this fringe and other show

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counterpart. You got this other reality where there's another version of you that you can get

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body parts from or whatever. If you can get through the portal or something, I'm not entirely

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sure they don't get specific, but there's other ways that these super soldiers can have like

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super bodies or something. Right. Put your mic down for this because you're never going to

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believe a piece of information that we get told about here. And then I have a whistleblower that

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talked about people like Mark Twain and, and others that have been reverse aged. So they

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have this reverse aging. And in fact, William Tomkins, we talked about him earlier. He was

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doing what he was doing in exchange for hope, hopefully getting for himself and his family,

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reverse aging pills that he, that then would allow him to stay alive much longer and go to a younger

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age. Generally, from what I understand, they reverse age someone to around to their twenties.

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It's younger for women. They're like 23 or something. I was told if I recall correctly,

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and then men it's a little bit older, 28 or so. So look, I totally understand in this fictional

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reality, why you'd want to reverse age, some important scientist or someone who's doing

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secret work behind the scenes that, you know, you want it to continue, but why the fuck would

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you reverse age Mark Twain? Because he's brilliant, Dan, have you not read letters from earth?

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Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the Americana classics of old Sam Clemons.

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One of our great authors. I don't see what the point would be of making him immortal.

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I don't get it. Okay. So Mark Twain was important to our country's history because he was a great

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writer. He had a sharp wit and he was an engaging public speaker, which are three things he would

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not be able to continue doing if you were to have a second lifetime. I don't understand.

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I guess he could start writing under an assumed name, but people would be like, Hey man,

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you look a lot like Mark Twain. You sound exactly like him. And honestly, your writing

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style is identical. Are you Mark Twain? Are you taking reverse aging pills? No, I am not.

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I am Samuel Clemons. Oh shit. I made it at fuck. Also Mark Twain died in 1910. So even if he took

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reverse aging pills and went back to the age of 28, he would be 138 years old right now.

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He would be dead again. Naturally. You have to ask yourself if baby, he took more reverse aging

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pills at some point and just kept cycling. But if so, what the fuck did he do in his second

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lifetime? I see literally no tangible effects in the world that could rightly be attributed to

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Mark Twain in the years since his death. So it seems like if he did live again,

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he probably was just pretty low key about it. Maybe just wandering around Missouri.

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Yeah, sure. I mean, look, he lived a full, a rich, full life. He's earned a retirement.

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I thought of another rich, full retirement. It's complicated. It seems, it seems like maybe not

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the best use of this, uh, this technology for a shadowy group to be doing. Yeah. That's probably

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no good. That's probably no good. I have a suspicion that this whistleblower of Carrie's

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just knew that one of Mark Twain's pithy quotes is quote life would be infinitely happier if we

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could only be born at the age of 80 and gradually approach 18, which I guess was then transformed

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into him being some kind of reverse aging operation kind of thing. If you, like, if he

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wasn't like doing a reverse agent thing, why would he say something like that? Why would he say

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something like that? Jordan? He said it himself. He admitted it's in the white papers. I do like

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weird random quotes being taken out of context to be like, see, obviously this guy knows the

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secret. It's like universal soldier predictive programming, externalizing the method. Why would

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he say that if he didn't already have some sort of Benjamin button technology? Oh shit. I referenced

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another movie. Oh no, no. Why would he say that if he wasn't like Merlin? Oh shit. That's right.

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It's another fake thing. God damn it. So Mark Twain maybe still walks among us and has been

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reverse aged with pills. What is he Thomas Pinchot now? Maybe. Yeah. Um, so that makes no sense to

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me, but, uh, Carrie has other examples. There are different ways of dealing with a super soldier and

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also, uh, keeping a human being alive and bringing them back. So there are X Nazis. Well, not X,

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there are Nazis, Werner von Braun, for example, who have been reverse aged and in essence are

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young men now. Don't tell me it's Karl Rove. I'm sorry. I'm making a joke. It's a terrible joke.

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See, that makes sense. Werner von Braun is who you would say in this not Mark Twain. Absolutely.

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Yeah. Werner von Braun is exactly who you would reverse age. He's like a genius rocket scientist

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guy. He's really like spooky and evil. I mean, he's literally a Dr. Strange love if you will,

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if you will, he's who you would use as your reverse. Why is he the second example after

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Mark Twain? Well, you got to try it on somebody first. And if you're going down the list of who's

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the first to get de-aging technology that may go wrong, you go with the man, Mark Twain dad. Sure.

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Absolutely absurd. Yeah. So they get to talking about interstellar travel and apparently it's

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mostly wormholes. Right. Well, that's the only way to get past the whole tricky light speed thing.

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Sure. Or the Van Allen radiation belt or whatever. Yeah. You got, you got issues. Apparently there

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are spacecrafts, but they're used to transport other spacecrafts through wormhole something.

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I'm not entirely sure. It's very convoluted, but there are a bunch of dimensions in the world.

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Right. Right. And then there's portals that you can go through or something. Okay.

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Carrie is talking about that here a little bit and she reveals a secret power that she has.

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Okay. I love a secret power that I find to be unimpressive. What we're talking about is

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a sort of an, a path to Ascension, a path to return to source as they call it. And there,

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there are hierarchies that one must go through and levels of frequency that you,

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you raise your frequency and you're able to go to two other dimensions. And if you've ever gone to

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Sedona and you, you go to the portals, if you want to know what a portal is like, go to Sedona,

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although they have them all over the world. And in fact, rivers and lakes are natural portals.

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So the energy you can feel it. I happen to be an earth sensitive. I can feel these things in my

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hands. I could walk around and tell you where on your property there, there might be a portal,

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for example. Okay. If your superpower is being able to tell you where a portal might be. Yep.

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That is not a definitive power. Nope. Maybe there's one here. There's not. Well, I just

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told you there might be one. I didn't say there was. That is a soft power. She is a maybe divining

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rod. That is a, that is a reliable tool. Also I've been to Sedona.

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I haven't. I haven't. So I don't know. She, I, she could be right. I've been to lakes.

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I think she just revealed that at one point she was probably a Scientologist. I don't know.

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Maybe that whole source thing that's straight out of L Ron. You don't think so? Not necessarily.

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It's all over the place in the paranormal, uh, community. No, no, it's, it, that's very, very,

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uh, ubiquitous. I don't think it necessarily comes from him from Hubbard. I wouldn't be surprised if

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she was still, look, I'm not going to disagree with you necessarily. Uh, but I, I don't think

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that you could use that as proof of it or anything. Fair point. Um, I don't know. I mean,

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I think on some level she's just expressing exactly what I feel, but I don't think as portal

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related and that is that like nature is great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good. Yeah. You

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get a different feeling when you're out, out and about and you don't, you know, you're not around

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concrete, you know, like being at a river does have some sort of a, you know, cause you can,

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you know, the sunset, if you're out by a river, like all the bugs that start making noises,

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it's very atmospheric, natural air. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. There's a, there's a lot to it. It can, it

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can, it feels entirely different. And I understand, I think what she's trying to express or what she's

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expressing, but in the form of like there's magic portals. Right. Right. Right. I think it's just a

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very, uh, uh, the call of the wild is what some people call it. You could call it being earth

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sensitive or you could call it being sensitive to the earth, being able to feel the things. Right.

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But then you're interpreting that feeling as being portals. Right. Right. That's an issue.

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So Carrie just recently talked to a guy though that, uh, he lives on a ranch and, uh, that ranch

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is above a military base. A lot of portals. There's an underground military base. Oh,

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of course. There's probably a portal involved. I think there is a portal. Good. The military

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base is being shared with Ashtar command. That's a bad idea. You can't trust them. Nope.

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I just interviewed, re-interviewed, uh, John Edmonds who lives on a, on a ranch that's

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located on top of a military base in Arizona. That's also being shared by the Ashtar command,

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which is an off planet race. And he has a tremendous number of portals on his property.

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Oh yeah. Where beings are always coming through and, uh, and basically disturbing their life in

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a multitude of ways. See, I heard that. And I heard a sitcom. I heard a damn sitcom,

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a guy just trying to mind his business on a ranch, having a great time. All these aliens

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keeps showing up and meddling. It's episodic. You could have a different, uh, different alien

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of the week. Yeah. And you aren't even Carrie laughed a little bit because I think she was

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thinking she's a writer. The way you described that is there's all these portals coming down

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and this guy's ranch. And it's really messing with their life. Like that's the nuisance.

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He's having trouble there. They're messing. They're turning the water off. The electricity

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goes haywire every time they portal in and out. It's terrible. Oh yeah. And aliens are real.

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No big deal. Yeah. I would watch. I don't know if I'd watch that show,

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but there was a time in my life when I watched more TV than I would have watched that show.

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I'd give it a chance. That sounds a little bit like fringe, right? The show, right? That's your

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ticket. So Dan Harmon, we know the answer to this question that Robert's about to ask, uh, Carrie.

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And that is that, is there an interstellar war going on? Absolutely. You bet. Let me ask you

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this. Is there some kind of intergalactic war going on right now? I mean, I hear about reptilians,

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Palladians, you know, I'm just a village idiot living in Oakton, Virginia. Uh, but I find this

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fascinating and I find you a very credible, interesting person. So is there some kind of

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conflict going on right now and who's winning? Yes. Uh, it's kind of funny to hear you say that.

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I mean, even people that follow the Bible, which, uh, does not necessarily tell you the whole truth

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and nothing but the truth. I tend to understand that, that we're in a war of worlds. You know,

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that, uh, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is followed up by, so help me God.

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Left that part off. Um, I, I just like the idea that Robert David Steele is like,

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I think that you're a credible and interesting person. After minutes earlier, she said,

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Mark Twain has been reverse aged. I'm, I'm enjoying his, uh, his fog horn,

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leghorn manner of now I say, I say, now everybody knows you're a brilliant woman and I'm just a

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down home comfort lawyer. God. So I was doing Futurama. Uh, yeah. So, uh, you know, Hey,

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there's an earth star war going on, but it's really like all of this is not humans. It's all

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ET like all wars are. Anytime we see a war on earth, what I've found out after all these years

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of investigating is that all of those wars have an ET basis. So these are not just wars between

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humans, the way we conventionally think about war. This is, you know, it's very, it's very popular

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to think about humans as a warlike species. Actually, that's not true. Humans are not warlike

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in the way that these other species are. And we're talking about the negatively based species.

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That, I mean, it's, there's so much of this that, that constantly pops up. There's this hiding

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behind, uh, attributing things to aliens that you don't want to recognize humans are capable of.

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Yeah. It's very weird to me, but. And it also hides, it also hides their fundamental fascination

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with war and their desire for, to talk about all of the, the heroism and, and all of that

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shit that we, uh, associate with war, uh, without having to feel bad about being one of the primary

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drivers of it, I guess. Not her specifically, but you know, war in general. Right. Cause you can have

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like a Randy Cramer's, a celebrated murderer of tons of aliens. He's protected the earth for,

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for decades. And yeah, right. It's very, it's a very strange, uh, worldview to me by, I don't

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know. So Robert David Steele asks if Trump knows about this stuff. Does he know about these aliens?

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And I will say that Carrie's response. Interesting. Is it credible? It's credible. Okay. Interesting.

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Okay. And credible. My sources say that yes, Trump is very knowledgeable. In fact,

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according to Mark Richards, his wife, uh, is used as a her, an alien conduit to a certain race,

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which he will not reveal to me which race that is, uh, except to say that it isn't the lion being

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beings. And it, I believe it's not the reptilians. I'm going to pause there really quick. Cause

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there's, there's more revelations, but I would guess if Mark Richards is not telling her which

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race Melania is a conduit for that implies that is not a good race of aliens. I feel like he would

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just come out and say it if it was, if it was the Pleiadians or whomever. Yeah. It's gotta be

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the mantis beings or the reptilians. Like if it was the Raptors, he would just be like, yeah,

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Melania's got a one-to-one hotline to the, uh, the Raptor princess. Everything is cool.

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Our president is in touch with our allies in space. It's good. It's gotta be one of the bad

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it's the Draco or some shit. She's actually Mako shark rampant. It has to be like a bad alien race.

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It has to be, there's no other, like, why wouldn't he tell her which one it was? Yeah. That's a

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really good question. All we know is it's not the lion. I didn't know there was a lion alien. Oh,

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of course there was a lion alien. What are you talking about? What about the dog traders?

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Well, the mercantile dogs, the mercantile dogs.

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Right. That sounds like who Trump would be interested in. Dan. He is a businessman. Yeah.

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I know that there are mercantile dogs and then there, the feline contestants who are into

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archeology. Right. I love, I love days like today. I didn't think that those feline

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contestants were, um, uh, lions. Right. Right. I feel like that's slightly different.

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I guess that's a good question. When we're talking about feline, uh,

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contestants as a whole, does that mean everything in the feline, uh, uh, what phenotype or genus,

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you know, like everything from lion all the way down to a little tiny, isn't it the case

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that a lot of those species came into being by virtue of like natural pressures that exist on

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earth. That's true. That's true. They have common ancestors in the feline family. And you would

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assume that there, if there's feline aliens, they wouldn't have had the same pressures that would

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lead them to, uh, that's fair. I'm going to go with genetic engineering. They make all of themselves

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from the different inspirational series of cats could be, there we go. Point is Melania is probably

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in touch with some evil aliens. Yeah, that sounds right. And I'm just going based on what

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Carrie is saying. I can't, I cannot stress this enough. The assumption has to be if Mark won't

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tell her it can't be good news because he always tells her the specifics. That's always one of his

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things is like, there are certain areas where he's like, I'm going to be 100% specific. And

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then others where he almost like she writes down that he turned and looked and gave me a

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knowing lancer. Yeah, exactly. Like why didn't she ask him what race he was talking about? Right.

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Yeah. And his, his, uh, silence speaks volumes. That's what I would say. Anyway, there's more,

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there's more news on the geopolitical alien front. Okay. So, uh, this is sort of a component of what

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you're talking about. Yes. Putin has been read in, uh, and, uh, and even Putin's clone, uh,

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I understand it is said that he's been a clone for a while now.

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Apparently Putin's a clone carpet bombing carpet bombing. Why not Putin's clone drop it in there?

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Well, and I mean, at the end there, she says, Putin's been a clone for a while now. There is

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no Putin anymore, I guess. And is this the clone from the alternate universe that they brought over

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or is this like a clone clone? Is this a Nazi clone? See the burner, Bron,

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Von Braun make this club. This is the problem with this interview style is that even though,

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uh, Robert David steel is on target and focus, right? Not a lot of follow-up questions,

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which I would be interested to know exactly what are you saying about Putin? He's the,

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is the head of state for one of the largest countries in the world. And you're saying

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he's a clone. That's a recipe to get a bogged down interview. Yeah, that's true. So we learned

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in that last clip also that there are lay, uh, lion aliens, which is cool. Um, and in this next

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clip, we, we find out about another race of aliens that I think actually has come up in the past,

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but it's, it's really funny to hear like what, what, when you're called on to give evidence

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for these things existing, right? Where do you go? There's also what, what you call the dragon moths

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that are, uh, very diabolical airport in Sydney, Australia that has a gigantic, uh, plaque carving

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of a dragon moth. And so you have to put two and two together on that one. So there's a plaque in

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an airport in Sydney, apparently, uh, that has a dragon moth and therefore diabolical aliens.

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Uh, okay. Okay. All right. So, okay. Dragon moths, diabolical. Here's how you prove them.

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There's a plaque. Yeah. There's a single plaque in one airport. As far as I know,

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yeah. In the world. Put two and two together. Bingo. There aren't even two. There might be,

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but we know of one because I have one source of information. I can't even put one together. Yeah.

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So, uh, they get off the topic of some of these aliens and, uh, Robert David steel wants to know

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about free energy. He wants to kind of end this interview. Don't we all to free energy. Um, and

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it turns out, uh, there is free energy has to do with vortexes or something that's trouble. Tesla

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is in play, right? Um, why didn't we D H him? He's number one on the list, right? You'd think

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D H Tesla. Fuck that guy was a thousand years ahead of his time. He had wireless energy before

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anybody. This is incredible. Bring Tesla back. Mark Twain. Okay. He wrote some books. He's

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clever. Use the N word a lot. Um, so apparently we learned, uh, how you can get some free

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electricity and put your mic down for this one too. Cause I need you to hear the specifics of

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this specifics. I will say one thing about Carrie that you can really count on is that she does not

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get bogged down in detail. Not into the specifics. Free energy comes out of the, you know, the, the

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energy vacuum, the, the black hole. And by the way, uh, apparently there are black holes in each

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of us and in the earth center of the earth, which is more information that I've been getting lately.

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So in essence, free energy is all around us. It, it comes, in fact, I've been told by one person,

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you can stick us something in the ground and in essence, uh, access at electricity. So there are

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lots of different types of, of energy. Okay. So if I understand correctly, someone told Carrie

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recently that you can put something in the ground, access electricity, Dan, it turns out that the

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black holes were inside us all along. Sure. Sure. Somebody, somebody, a nonspecific person,

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somebody told Carrie that you could take a thing, something who knows what that thing is. It could

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be anything. You put it in the ground, electricity, access free and go. I really think she should get

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a patent on that quick. Somebody needs to tell her to get a patent on that thing. Date the stamp

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and mail it to yourself. Yeah. That's the kind of sentence. Like if you're doing an interview,

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you just can't let that slide. Somebody told me you put a thing in the ground and you got

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free energy. Electricity. What are you talking about? Who told you that? What is this? Anybody

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interviewing the president? What are we doing? What are we allowing you to get away with it?

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Yeah, this is, this is so apparently we have black holes in us and we poke the ground and you get

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electricity. So that's free. Right. Cool. As long as you find the thing though. Oh yeah. That's the

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struggle. It's going to take you a lot of energy to find that thing. I think I suspect strong

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suspicion. I don't think it's energy neutral. I'll tell you that right now. So also it turns out

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Mark Richards has, uh, something he's been telling Carrie about another source of energy. Um, and

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this is how the interview comes to an end. Uh, they, they wrap it up. Cause also another thing

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too is that Robert David Steele is very clear. Like I'm trying to keep this interview tight.

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This is going to be about 35 minutes. We're not going to go like in the same way as sticking to

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the business. It's like note. And that's why you don't ask, what's that thing? You poke the ground.

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That's another 10 minutes. That's what I'm saying. You're not going to get an answer.

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No. What thing is it? Oh, you know, it's something I can't tell you that somebody,

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I can't tell you who it was. It was a classified situation. So there's another source of energy.

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This is, this is just a silly end to this interview. Uh, Mark Richards talks about the

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energy from neutron stars that we are now able to fuel our craft with the BTs did not want us to

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have access to that goes beyond free energy. So, um, that's what I would have to say about that.

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And I believe that airlines are using it right now for their planes. I believe airlines went

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bankrupt and have to use free energy to get their planes off the ground. You know, I'm worried about

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radiation sickness. The entire plane loads of people are being quarantined because flu presents

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the same way as radiation sickness. We have to stop because I've made a commitment to my audience

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that I do 30 minutes, not one hour, uh, interviews stick by that commitment. My friend can't, can't

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go long. Can't do a part two. I enjoy the strong assertion that she believes that airline companies

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all went bankrupt. And so now have to use free energy, which is from space or something. Now

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answer me this, Dan, why wouldn't they have used free energy in the first place? Well,

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they have to go bankrupt in order to get access to the free energy because once they go bankrupt,

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then the reptilians have them right where they want them. Right. Right. Right. They become

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compromised to the lion alien Raptor Alliance with the mantid. Sure. Um, and by virtue of that now,

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all these aliens can fly for free and that's how they get 200,000 people out of here every day.

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That's the whole idea. You know how they have that like curtain that goes up.

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It's all fucking mantids up there. Yeah. God damn it. Yeah. You're just sitting in the back. You're

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like, why do they need that curtain? Is it because they don't want to look back at us? A dirty poor

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people back here. No, it's because they're it's it's mantid beings. And then, uh, I think of

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Mohammed bin, Solomon is there. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. It's a bit strange. So I was curious about

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what, uh, uh, steel was saying there at the end about the radiation sickness that he's worried

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about. I found it fascinating. I watched another video of his and apparently he believes the

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Corona virus situation radiation sickness from free energy. Well, I believe it probably has to

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do with five G because I think that's another, that's another popular area of the conspiracy

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world that weirdly I haven't heard Alex talk about why we haven't talked about it on the show.

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He's talked about it a little bit. You know, the, the, we have to go to somewhere in Virginia

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where there's one. No, no, no, no. He's talked about five G, but not in relation to the Corona

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virus. There are some people who have been like, it's all because China has five G. This is all

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just that. And they're trying to cover it and say it's a virus. Okay. So Robert David Steele,

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I think is a little bit on that tip because I watched another video of his where he was saying

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that like these people they're on the planes and they get sick and then you think it's flu,

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then you get them off the planes and the fine cause it's radiation sick. Okay. All right. So

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that's his theory. All right. I, uh, I don't think that one's valid for a lot of reasons, but I like

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that he's trying again. You take things based on context. You can't take any real argument that's

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made seriously because you're also discussing Mark Twain de-aging, uh, through pills, perhaps.

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Sure. You're, you're, you're, you're talking to the age of 28, by the way. Yes. Yeah. You're

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talking about a fringe being real and we can just go and get our doppelganger from another

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dimension. Ah, but they're evil. Putin's a clone. Of course he is. Why wouldn't he be? You put a

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thing in the ground to get electricity. Just put a thing in the ground. Just put a thing in there.

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This is absurd. I do love it when she just carpet bombs assertions that I've literally never heard

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anybody ever even consider as a possibility before. And she just, it's, it's nonstop. This

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was a tight half hour interview and there was nothing but gold there. When you only have to

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watch a half hour interview and you get Mark Twain, you get thing in the ground. Like it's,

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that's, that's a good day in my book. If project Camelot could stay just that.

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And of course it can't, you know, nothing, nothing good in this world stays good. No,

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but no, especially not now we can at least look at this new interview and, uh, and see the ways

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in which it has those similarities to what, uh, gave us a break in the past. And I'm glad for

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that. So thank you, Carrie. Even if we are making fun of this entire, uh, everything about, um,

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100% of it at the very least 20% of it, which is how many people we are missing.

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Yes. Oh yeah. I forgot about that too. 20% of the population by aliens.

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What I don't understand is like, it's, it seems like it's easier to just believe that the problems

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are aliens, you know, wars are aliens and, and it's so hard to stay informed about everything

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that's going on and really trace the root causes of behind these problems and solve it. So if

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you're choosing to go the easy route, why are you then making it really complicated and miserable

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to live inside? Like if we're going on ignorance is bliss. Why is it so miserable to be, to be take

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the easy route, man? Because it's not miserable. This stuff isn't real. So you're not actually

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facing any of the effects of like what the downside of if aliens were really people all over

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the 20% of the world, like what she's describing is terrifying. But I don't see her. I don't see,

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she doesn't seem happy to me. No. Like when the whole point of doing this is, is to avoid the bad

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feelings of, uh, instead of just instead feeling miserable and helpless in the face of aliens,

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stealing 200,000 people that ostensibly you like. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's a real

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bummer. Yeah. Hmm. I don't have an answer for that. I don't know. I hate my government doing things

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in my name that I find reprehensible and evil, but I am fine. If Raptors steal 200,000 people,

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I'm still friends with them. Come on. It's chocolate. You know, you got to look out at

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this on a sliding scale sort of thing. Yeah. But at least they haven't abducted 1.5 billion people.

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Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this has been a little bit of a fun break. Uh, we'll be back with another

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episode, but it, you know, th th there's a secondary aspect to this too, which is like

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really pointing out that there is less of a wall between the worlds of Alex Jones and project

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Camelot than necessarily appears to be the case. Like you have this interview where Carrie is

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saying this stuff about like Mark Twain got de-aged and I know I keep going back to that,

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but it's because I love it. It's my favorite thing. Uh, much like the last season, last

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episode of fringe. You are my favorite thing. It was the age. It's my version of Josh Jackson.

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All right. Spoiler alert for fringe. I think it's, I think it's past its time. Yeah. If

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you're going to watch it, you're going to watch it. It's too late. I regret nothing.

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So you have Carrie saying stuff like that and it is like really out there. And like,

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obviously you'd have to be just completely incredulous to not be like, Hey, what are

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you talking about? Right. Show me any kind of evidence of any of the things that you're saying.

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And you know, it's silly and you can write it off as like, Oh, these are just people saying

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they're just talking shit. Yeah. But she's being interviewed by a guy who was frequent guest on

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Alex's show until he said, I believe children are being taken to large spaces. So like it's,

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the connection is, it's closer than, uh, it might feel comfortable to recognize. I kind of feel like

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the only difference in worldview between Alex and Carrie is taste in movies. Maybe. You know,

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like I'm talking, depending on the movies that they want to believe are predictive programming,

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that's where they go. What sort of, are you more into sci-fi? Are you oblivion or are you a

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universal soldier? Which, which one do you want to go with? I'm talking less about, um, worldviews.

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Yeah. I'm talking more about like, what standards do you apply to what you're putting on? Absolutely.

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Like Alex was perfectly comfortable having Robert David Steele on and like presenting him as an

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expert in stuff until he went a little too far. And then he had to be like, he had to be excised

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because everyone was making fun of Alex for believing in Mars bases. And so you gotta,

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you gotta take a step back from that. Whereas like it's, it's the same level of vetting that

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leads to project Camelot doing an episode with Pete Peterson, where they now in 2017,

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Paul, uh, uh, uh, bill Ryan has to come out and say, we did no due diligence on this interview.

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Like it's the same level of work that's being done by these two things. Just one is political

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espionage and one is, um, magic space stuff. And I guess that gets back to what you're saying.

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Yeah. The taste in movies. Yeah. Which do you prefer the Manchurian candidate or

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universal shoulder soldier? If you apply that level of just like, I don't give a shit,

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let's do this. Uh, then whatever your taste in movies will dictate, uh, the product that you

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live in a sad world. That's the saddest thing I think I've ever thought. And on that note,

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uh, we'll be back. We, we will, but until then we have a website. We do. It's knowledge fight.com.

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uh, I'm Neo I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am Putin's other clone.

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Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.

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Well, Alex, I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.