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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your world

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knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledgefight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages

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and talk a little bit about what's going on with that weirdo Alex Jones

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Indeed we are Dan, we're the weirdos who talk about that weirdo Alex Jones

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Yeah, which one of us is weirder, who knows

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That is a good question, I have a question for you though

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Great, love questions, can't get enough of them

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Have you received a valentine as an adult?

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Probably, yeah, but

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You think so?

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I mean, when do you become an adult?

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Well, when was the last time you got a valentine?

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I don't know, it's been a while

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Probably a while, yeah

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In relationships in the past, there have been like little valentines

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Yeah, like a card?

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I consider, when you say valentine, I really think of like

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it has to be something that you're not seeing the person

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You know what I mean?

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It has to be someone who you're not in a relationship with

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Okay, okay

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I feel like in school, that was always outside of the context of you being in a relationship

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Sure

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It was just, you give the whole class

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Yeah, everybody got a valentine

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Yeah

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Or at least hopefully

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And then you get into high school and it evolves to like there are people you can buy roses from

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Oh, I know, that's so gross

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But then that's in a relationship, or hopefully

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Yeah

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It can go real bad

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I don't know, the dynamics of valentine giving has always struck me as a little weird

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Right?

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Yeah, I don't know if it's ever been something, I've put too much stake into her interest

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But I don't know, I got a nice card from a girlfriend ten years ago

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Well, that's great, that's nice

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I've gotten an adult valentine

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No?

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No, no, no, never

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I mean a card, I've always thought of a valentine as a card

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Right

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You know, like hey, you go out to dinner, that's not a valentine

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Right, right, you're really materialistic

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Yeah, that's what I'm about

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Yeah, you're all about the money and the things

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Absolutely

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Yeah, I don't know

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Every kiss begins with Hallmark is what I say

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It seems like it's definitely something that is more less relevant

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Yeah

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I guess you could say less relevant in adulthood

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Yeah

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I do not care

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Absolutely

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So this podcast, I don't know much about adult valentining and also I know a lot about Alex Jones

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And I don't know anything about either

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Right, Jordan, so today we are still in the present because this shit is getting wild

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Of course

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Today we're going over February 9th and a little bit of the 10th, 2020

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I'm damn, this is 2020

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Damn it

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And that's the Sunday show and a little bit of Monday

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Monday's not very interesting, but Sunday is fascinating

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Okay, okay

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So we'll be going over that and I'm excited to get to that

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so thank you so much yes thank you very very much to everyone also thank I had

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to give a thank you to listener who reached out to me because they gave me a

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little bit of a correction or at least pointed something out that I got wrong

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and I need to make a little correction about our gotcha gotcha so on our last

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episode I responded to Mike Adams citing a stat from Neil Ferguson about the

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coronavirus outbreak and I made an incorrect assumption because there's

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someone named Neil Ferguson who's come on Alex's show a bit in the past and is

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from the UK who'd recently written an op-ed about the coronavirus I assumed

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that that was the Neil Ferguson that Mike was referring to as this listener

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ironically named Alex pointed out there is another Neil Ferguson who is an

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actual public health expert from Imperial College London and I apologize

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that I got that wrong so because I dismissed the claims that were made

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based on believing them to have come from a humanities professor it's only

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right that I take a look at them now given that they're supposedly coming

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from someone whose opinion is a little more valid on the subject sure a couple

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of important qualifications here are that Ferguson's number is an estimate

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and in the interview where he expresses this estimate he also says that they

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don't know enough to be sure even if there are as many cases as he is

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estimating he's also very specifically talking about people who come down with

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very mild forms of the virus who may not even know they have it and may not even

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be contagious in the interview Ferguson doesn't get into the modeling too much

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or explain how his estimate was reached also notably he's not freaked out about

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it and it's almost a side thought in the conversation that's not even something

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that's nailed on too much but it's the piece of the conversation that is taken

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and of course all over the place yeah even if what Ferguson is

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estimating is accurate which he's not even concretely saying it doesn't

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justify the way Mike Adams was using that figure for for instance Mike took

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that 50,000 new infections number that Ferguson was estimating and he connected

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it with the 15% mortality rate from the Lancet study to say that China would be

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looking at 7,500 deaths a day the cases that were a part of Ferguson's estimate

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were largely very mild cases and not the ones that would lead to deaths whereas

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the Lancet study was a breakdown of 41 patients who presented already having

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pneumonia so those are the severe cases it's an inappropriate use of these

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statistics in another article from February 10th in the Telegraph Ferguson

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said quote our estimates while subject to much uncertainty due to the limited

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data currently available suggest that the impact of the unfolding epidemic may

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be comparable to the major influenza pandemics of the 20th century which is

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to say swine flu yeah yeah yeah that sort of thing not great yeah that's to

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say that it is a serious public health issue but it's not an apocalyptic event

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the way Mike Adams is trying to use Ferguson's estimates to suggest right

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anyway I apologize for mixing up the Neil Ferguson's I made a little bit of a

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hasty assumption based on a familiar name popping up and I'll be sure to be

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more careful about that in the future point still remains like Adams is that a

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lie it's unfair one of those Neil Ferguson's needs to relinquish their

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British citizenship otherwise we will be confused forever or just the relinquish

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the name and I would say that it should be the humanities professor he's been on

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info wars let's rename him yeah anyway I just wanted to get that out of the way

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up top because bungled a little something wonderful take a anyway and

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also thank you to listener Alex for pointing that out really appreciate thank

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you very much so we start here on February 9th and I should say that

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prior to this clip the show started and it started with 311 the band 311 oh okay

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I like them Alex's fake reggae nonsense hold on hold on you're making a much

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like I did on the last episode all right you were making a hasty assumption wait

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so the band 311 is in studio oh you just play some 311 music and Alex is having a

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tough time okay to be just to clarify even further the 311 plays then there's

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silence and then we get this Star Wars I'm gonna start the show at the

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beginning of the next segment it's a new pastime a new thing we do here hell

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not starting the show again I'm not ready to start the show and that's just

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the way it is CD over the years and if the broadcast starts with music that

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sounds like we're sitting back drinking pina coladas and just woke up in the

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Garden of Eden before the serpent well just makes me that's what the middle of

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a total fight for the complete future of human civilization 311 does this that's

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where we are right now all right listen I don't I don't like three I don't like

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311 either I don't hate 311 as much as I might have when I was a little younger

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but I I don't this is an overreaction I I do hate 311 specifically you heard me

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I was singing along with fascination Street before we started the show

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sing along with it I was just singing it yeah and 311's cover of love song I will

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never forgive them for so it's not the color of your energy terrible hey whoa

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whoa hey don't yeah hey 311 yeah the end okay it's trying to figure out a way to

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work beautiful disaster into a sentence I don't even like that you know 311

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songs I like to get high for a while I love it I don't know if I ever I think

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those time I don't think those those timelines are accurate though because I

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think I might have liked 311 when I was before I was old enough that I was

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smoking weed right right sure anyway who cares yes this is a podcast where we get

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to the bottom of this 311 throws Alex off to to an extent where he has to

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restart the show which is awesome anyway Alex gets into talking about you know

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his main story of course the corona virus naturally he gets into it a little

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bit but man it is over thankfully it is not the main focus of a ton of this

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episode that's good we will get other topics to discuss which I assume he's

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sold out of a lot of stuff then I you know you got to kind of think that that

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might be so it's nice to have some other topics to talk about but of course he

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has to keep that ball in the air he has to keep juggling it yeah yeah so he

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touches on it a little bit here I'm obsessed with the corona virus because

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it is man-made and they're acting really sneaky about it and they're not just

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doing this martial law thing to create a precedent and and get and get us scared

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they're like oh don't be scared but we've got martial law in place and the

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UN is praising ZZ paying for killing people in the streets of checkpoints so

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a couple quick points on this last clip here yeah one Alex is obsessed with the

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virus because he's seeing a drastic increase in his sales he's already said

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that his immune gargle sold out and if you go to my patriot supplies website

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they're saying they have a 12 times increased order of all you surprise now

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naturally not all of those sales are coming through Alex since they also

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sponsor pretty much all of the big right-wing alarmists including Glenn Beck

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but it's clear that Alex's share of the sales are rising to any government that

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decides to enact martial law probably doesn't care too much about there being

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a precedent that's kind of silly also this fails to take into account the

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quarantining cities already has a long precedent into 2014 the city of human in

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China was put into lockdown after a man there died of the bubonic plague during

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the SARS outbreak in 2003 while they didn't quarantine a whole city Canada

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quarantined over 30,000 people in Toronto even though they only had 250

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probable cases of the virus the experts don't believe that strict and enforced

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large-scale quarantines are the best way to deal with outbreaks but also they

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really can't stop a country from doing them if there were some international

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ban on quarantining Alex would claim that it was the globalist infringing on

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a country's sovereign right to lock down a city if they wanted to so it really is

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all just nonsense God can you imagine if governments listen to experts that would

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be hilarious while it'd be an insane world we live in so there are

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international health regulations that countries have agreed to but the issue

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is that they are not enforceable so the third thing third point about that clip

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is that there's no evidence I can find that the video involving the alleged

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woman who'd been shot at a checkpoint has been verified right this is just

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something that Alex saw that someone had tweeted and I have no idea if it's real

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or current I don't know what the truth is there and neither does Alex he's

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assuming that it's real without any confirmation or journalistic due

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diligence and to the larger point people are not applauding China for

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instituting a quarantine and all these brutal crackdowns all this and actually

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what they're doing is likely a part of a complicated balancing act because those

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international health regulations are not enforceable they're completely up to

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each country to abide by them willingly if a country doesn't cooperate in a

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crisis that crisis is going to be impossible to deal with and that affects

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the whole world so while there is growing evidence of a lack of

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transparency on China's part potentially and of course there are definite

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questions about whether or not the quarantining of millions of people is a

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great idea the praise that people like the head of the World Health

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Organization are expressing are not about those issues we are in a public

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health emergency but on a you know just broadly speaking and successful

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navigation of that emergency depends on China's cooperation Vox interviewed a

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couple experts about this and I think that their perspective is helpful in

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understanding some of these public statements that people have been making

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for one it's very important that China identified and sent out the genome of

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this virus in prompt fashion so that is something that is worthy of praise and

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you know you can hang your hat on that that's that's fine now Alex said they

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didn't sure but the issue comes down to diplomacy

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Devi Sridhar the chair of the global public health at University of Edinburgh

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told Vox quote the World Health Organization as a difficult balancing

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act they have to somehow retain being the lead coordinator and director of

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international health work and the trade-offs they are having to make are

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about the greater good right now the greater good is to create positive

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incentives for countries to collaborate with the World Health Organization to

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share data to let missions into China if that means publicly having to praise

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China I understand it Lawrence Gostin a global health law professor at

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Georgetown said quote if the World Health Organization criticizes China

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publicly it's possible they can be less transparent less cooperative if I was in

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Tedros the head of the World Health Organization if I was in his shoes I'm

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not entirely sure I would do anything differently this is a really complicated

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kind of thing and the reality is that these international health regulations

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are great and people agree to them after outbreaks are resolved and then they're

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pretty quickly ignored whenever a new one pops up isn't that surprising for

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instance restricting entry of people from affected areas is counter to those

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regulations but every time there's a public health event countries are quick

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to breach this norm Mark Eccleston Turner a global health law professor at

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Keele University in England told Vox quote the international health regulation

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operates on mutual trust largely and it is a mutual trust that mutual trust has

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been eroded over a number of outbreaks where member states have ignored the

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recommendations from the World Health Organization I think it's possible that

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we have at times painted too rosy a picture of the coronavirus situation but

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that's just because I'm responding to the claims that Alex makes which are

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sensationalist trash when you're dealing with a guy who's saying you know garbage

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like it's over for humanity there will only be lone survivors and you pair that

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with embarrassing sales tactics I have no qualms about saying that it's just

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trash and garbage that said it's important to recognize that serious

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people do have some critiques about China's handling of the outbreak they

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just don't match up with what Alex is saying and so when you hear people like

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the heads of the World Health Organization saying like we applaud

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China and something there is a dynamic of there are things to applaud and it's

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not wrong to point those things out and if you don't do that you have a state

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there as the ability to stop cooperating and you run the risk of making

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everything worse for the world all of these issues are best to be dealt with

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after the immediacy of the situation is handled it's a it's how do you how do

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you get any strongman a powerful dictator on your side you flatter the

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shit out of them we see it with Stevie peas and Alex all the time so the World

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Health Organization go into China and being like you guys are doing great

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everything you guys have been kicking ass we love it help us help you that

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whole thing is going to be far more effective than being like here's what

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you're doing wrong stop stop stop change it to this and I do I do I wish that

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wasn't the case of course but it's unfortunately the people who understand

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the situation and the experts are pretty clear yeah yeah which again no

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government pays any attention to anybody who knows what's going on ie climate

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change but the optics of this are perfect because Alex can say that the

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you know World Health Organization and these leaders are applauding China and

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pretend that what they're applauding is all of the meme videos that I've seen

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and all of the harsh the crackdown of the quarantine and that's just not fair

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he's Alex is playing with optics in a way that's I mean just deceitful yeah

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so Alex he's really I don't know how to just set this up other than to say like

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you really hates 311 they have been trying to plunge the stock market using

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this information we're in economic war they have not been successful but

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they're going to try very very hard this week so we're going to be going over all

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of it coming up when we start the broadcast at the start of the next

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segment I mean might as well just wind your watches might as well check the

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weather look at the thermometer I don't know go to the refrigerator and what are

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we doing here get a glass of ice water you're on air it's killing time you're

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on air big giant compendium of information ready to launch ready to

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trigger and I've got it on the runway right there and that's why we're gonna

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come back with something fitting for a moment like this

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try oxen 9 I'm gonna start the broadcast over and it's all gonna be peachy King

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after that point and I'm going to knock it out of the park thanks to all your

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support you know it's like you got Labrador retrievers in your breed I mean

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you have Labrador retriever puppies but then they have puppies and it's a poodles

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come out you know that music was satanic

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Alex wasted like six minutes on air because of three you know what now I

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will finally be able to answer when people are like would you want to talk

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to Alex Jones I'd be like yes at a bar and only about 311 yeah and I would

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bring peanut man he's really affected by 311 yeah and it's it's tragic too

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because I would associate people who like 311 with being like susceptible to

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infowars propaganda I don't know if that's the case maybe I'm making way too

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broad a generalization but I would say they're a subject to Doug Benson's form

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of comedy more than anything else yeah so Alex gets back from break and he

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starts the real show and on this the beginning of the real show he's talking

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he's talking about some some issues and one of them it turns out is Rush Limbaugh

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who has come down with some cancer and got a medal of freedom great so Alex is

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why is America Alex has some very weird feelings about this yeah I think he's

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trying to express a certain amount of like you know we feel bad for him sure

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at the same time he also seems to think like once he dies I'm gonna get hit

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where's all right where's my medal of free no no no no no I'm gonna get his

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radio stations when he died open phones second hour of the Sunday show then I'm

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gonna go home and see my children and then I'm gonna come back tomorrow into

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the 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. broadcast the 311 began to support Rush Limbaugh with his

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lung cancer and I got to tell you you know Trump's the phone before said

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stuff like you know you're gonna be the next Rush Limbaugh they say and I'm like

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well actually I'm more popular than Rush Limbaugh but on threshold radio you can

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say he's a lot bigger you could really fancy myself as the next Rush Limbaugh

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kind of Rush Limbaugh's become what I talk about a patriot nationalist

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anti-new order guy that's not that far off he would even say the CFR existed

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but I got to tell you we will probably get a lot of stations when Rush Limbaugh

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makes the jump into hyperspace and I do not have a good feeling about that but

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Raj has pretty much said looks like he's terminal he might be able to stall it a

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while we hope he has a miracle like the omen of Rush Limbaugh dying right

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before the 2020 election because he definitely helped Trump get elected the

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big way so Alex is looking at this like a human oh man we're really sorry we

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hope he recovers when he dies I'm gonna get all of a shit so we really I'm not

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saying I don't want him to recover I sucks that Rush is dying before the

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election because we could use them I'm gonna get his stations and that's great

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man that's not how it works he's also not there's a lot of other people in

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line for that time slot there are a hundred other like big because the

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people who syndicate those time slots on all those stations or people who would

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never work with Alex ever so there are people like Mark Levin or Hugh Hewitt or

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Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity yeah like there's plenty of people within that

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time slot that would rush Limbaugh goes away Hannity takes over his time slot

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then it's just all over the place yeah or whatever you know whatever the case

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is Alex is not next in line there is there is no line that Alex is even in

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let alone next in I don't think that there is a massive radio stations that

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are like fuck we want to play Alex but the time slot he's against rush the time

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slot that's it that's the whole problem I think there's three stations in the

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country that might have that dilemma so Alex is a real shithead I hate rush and

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all this I'm not interested in celebrating him having cancer in any way

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yeah I I hate him and I think that this is disgraceful this is bad so Alex has

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some other news about the the the coronavirus as it relates to the United

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States and it's a load of shit let me just what in the town I love the

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segment tell you what I'm gonna get you today first up we have the quarantine

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center set up at US military bases DoD reports that's Miami Herald we broke

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this almost two weeks ago and I said they were establishing these and

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specifically where they were doing it and of course we got called fake news

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but we have that directly from White House sources in the interest of

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clearness I've heard Alex saying that the government was specifically

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preparing for a gigantic quarantine near Seattle that's the specific I've heard

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him use in the past as far as I know the rest of the things I've heard from him

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have been vague and nonspecific fears by camps and shit that's in terms of what

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he's put out on the show it's been like the Seattle yeah so this Miami Herald

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article is just about the Department of Defense entering into an agreement at

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the request of the Department of Health and Human Services to provide quarantine

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space in case there are need for additional beds for suspected

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coronavirus patients what this comes down to is the fact that the bases are

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equipped to handle this kind of thing and they're located in places where they

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can be helpful the bases that agreed to assist are specifically ones that are

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near major airports so flights entering the United States from areas affected by

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the outbreak disembark they have screening measures done to the

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passengers and then suspected cases can be taken to the centers at the DoD

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bases the article is very clear that this is still a Department of Health and

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Human Services operation just using space at these bases instead of creating

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new facilities that they don't need to create with the Pentagon spokesman

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saying quote DoD personnel will not be in direct contact with the evacuees and

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will minimize contact with personnel supporting the evacuees so how it works

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is that the medical staff will attend to them and if anyone tests positive for

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coronavirus they'll then be relocated to a nearby hospital yeah this is also a

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very limited arrangement the help agreement only lasts until February 22nd

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the likely reason for this arrangement being struck is because earlier this

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month Trump signed an executive order that restricted travel from China but it

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didn't completely shut it down according to the Charlotte Observer starting

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February 2nd flights from China to the United States were being directed to

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specific airports where the passengers could be best screened it makes sense

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that the Department of Health and Human Services would make use of the resources

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available to them and if possible borrow space from the DoD to house any possible

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suspected cases that might pop up makes total sense this is very frustrating to

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me that all of this sounds incredibly reasonable and yet somehow Alex is

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attacking it right because it has the optics that needs in order to create the

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fears that he's already built up over the years of family and the only thing

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you can assume is he would prefer large mass scale panic and chaos to reasonable

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measures take no because he doesn't want actual rioting or looting right he wants

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the controlled chaos that's enough like you're scared enough to buy his product

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but you're not scared enough to get out in the streets right that's the sweet

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spot that he wants people at also it's not like these DoD centers would be

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gigantic prisons or something according to the very Miami Herald article that

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Alex is citing each would be able to house a maximum of 20 patients it just

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seems like good precautions being taken as far as I can tell yeah that's all

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reasonable evidence like nothing in the article talks about how many people are

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even being taken to those places if anyone is yeah there's no and it's not

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like they would be the first places people are taking because the DHHS

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already has places to take people right right it's just in case there are tons

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more people who are coming in from China who are suspected of having the the

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virus well maybe they have to maybe they have to switch around and all the

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soldiers have to go to the Department of Human Health Services and all the

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patients and hospital staff have to go to the bases we have a nice little

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switcheroo everybody learns about each other this is a 13 going on 30 scenario

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Dan and again to bring sharp focus to this you know like the the idea that

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Alex and his narratives are designed to get you no matter what you do yeah if

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they didn't do something like this as a precaution or you know have these plans

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these people are asleep at the wheel they're letting us all die they don't

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give a shit about us exactly yeah so here Trump said bullshit anyways 2,000

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years ago I've never seen something so sexy politically weirdo gross so we get

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off the coronavirus stuff and that's great yes because it's great in a while

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yes we've had anything really juicy and yeah yeah but it's not good it's it's a

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it's a nice breath of fresh air novelty is the best we can hope for it's from a

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dumpster yeah this one's from a McDonald's instead of a Burger King

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that's nice right so Chris Matthews after the New Hampshire Democratic

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primary debate made some comments about how if Bernie gets in he might kill his

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rivals yeah it was a little bit unhinged I don't know it was

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irresponsible the way he thinks that I don't know what I'm talking about that's

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just cuz I yell all the time but Bernie's gonna murder all of his bad yeah

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so Alex picks up on this and he's like great this is quite interesting MSNBC's

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Chris Matthew suggests Bernie Sanders could assassinate political opponents

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of president now Hillary has a bunch of people around her dead in incredibly

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suspicious circumstances I mean you know Air Force Kirk said that Ron Brown was

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shot through the head if you read that on the air they say it's a conspiracy

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theory when it's a public fact they had a corner in Arkansas called family

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malloc that would rule that people were found with their arms legs and heads cut

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off in plastic bags in a dump and they said the person committed suicide

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multiple times so it's pretty fun that Alex is doubling down on Chris Matthews

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suggesting Bernie will kill political opponents based on nothing and at the

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same time celebrating Trump firing people who testified against him and

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clear acts of retaliation for them testifying yeah I don't really care at

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Chris Matthews dumbass so I'm not even getting engaged with that but I wanted

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to talk calm down okay sorry but I wanted to talk about these Hillary

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murders a little bit before we get into any of this it's my favorite Agatha

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Christie novel by the way the Hillary murders sure the Belgian gets to the

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bottom of he's not French he's not French so before we get into any of this

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just just off the top this is all just a part of that dumb Clinton body bag shit

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that was started by the Waco conspiracy theorist named Linda Thompson back in

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the 90s as a way to attack Bill Clinton people have gone over this list of

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people who were quote-unquote close to the Clintons who died and none of them

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really stand up to scrutiny at all interestingly though Linda Thompson

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appeared as a guest on Bill Cooper's show the hour of the time 15 times nice

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very regular yeah all right hey get into some of those yeah I listened to one and

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it was very boring but there might be some other gems in there we'll see if

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Hillary Clinton kills anybody else I'm sure she'll be back on I think oh it

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might be too late for Bill Cooper show yeah he's not on the air anymore so why

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is that the first case that Alex brings up is Ron Brown okay Ron Brown was the

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first african-american to be chairman of the Democratic National Committee and

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then when Clinton was elected Brown became the first african-american to

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serve as Secretary of Commerce on April 3rd 1996 he was one of 35 people who

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were tragically killed in a plane crash over Croatia and based on a small detail

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in the coroner's report conspiracy theorists started spreading all this

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shit about his death yeah an x-ray showed what appeared to be a small round

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wound which folks decided must be a bullet hole this theory is super weak

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considering that the x-ray suspiciously did not also include a bullet any bone

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fragments or an exit wound which makes it super unlikely that he was shot yeah

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why don't they make the bullets out of the black box you know what I'm saying

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yeah there's so much more that needs to be explained for this to be plausibly

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presented as a murder and neither Alex nor any of the Clinton conspiracy crowd

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has ever provided anything close to an explanation for how they think this went

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down like let's say he was shot before they just dragged him on the plane and

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everyone got on the plane with a dead body no way no obviously the way this

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goes down is a DB Cooper style fucking hijacking the CIA agent or NSA agent or

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whatever you want breaks into the plane sets it down kills the pilot says we're

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all going down then walks into the into the fuselage shoots the guy and then

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jumps out the side and parachutes out why do you need to shoot him if they're

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gonna have a plane crash that kills everybody because what if he survives

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and then he winds up eating everybody else and only gains their strength and

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comes back to bite you in the ass that makes perfect you have some interesting

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ideas but like I said there's a lot more that needs to be fleshed out okay

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people have failed to do that all right so that's one I'm not going to count as

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a Clinton murder I'm gonna have to say this is tragic for sure so as for family

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Malik what Alex is referring to here is the case of Don Henry and Kevin Ives I

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have no idea what he's talking about with suicide and people in bags and all

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that stuff but he's clearly talking about these two guys

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Henry and Ives aged 16 and 17 respectively were hit by the 4 25 a.m.

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train on August 23rd 1987 as they lay on the tracks they had been out hunting and

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had some weed in their system which may have led to the coroner family family

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Malik to conclude that they were passed out from the weed and got hit by a train

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having fallen asleep on the tracks the families did not accept that

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determination so they got a second opinion and the information that came up

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made it seem very clear that these kids were murdered for instance they found a

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stab wound in one of their backs and the second corner found that they had way

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less weed in them that Matt then Malik had suggested did she miss the stab

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wound he and oh sorry and I assumed that the explanation be like you just think

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it's a train wound or something like that I could see that yeah yeah a train

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wound well maybe not you know what I'm saying yeah I guess from here all sorts

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of conspiracies started swirling around about how these kids must have

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accidentally seen something they shouldn't have like a drug deal that

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would implicate then governor of Arkansas Bill Clinton none of this has

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ever been proven and it's except but it's accepted as truth by the Clinton

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conspiracy crowd I see that as a bit of a leap it is yeah from where I'm sitting

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I think it's entirely possible that family Malik was just super super bad at

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his job he quit his position in 1991 under harsh criticism that he had a

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pattern of botching autopsies it's not good there was the 1989 case of Olivia

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Ward which he determined to be a murder but further examination found to be

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inconclusive with no evidence of murder at all it's not like he always bungled

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cases but the case of Henry and Ives was definitely not an isolated incident in

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his tenure at the coroner's office and the other cases he made mistakes and

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don't seem to have any relation to the Clintons nor does Henry and Ives is

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unless you are operating off guesses and theories that aren't substantiated sure

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so Alex says these two examples of Clinton murders that he throws out of

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pretending that they're solidly proven but they're absolutely not this is all

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just dumb old right-wing conspiracy shit and more to the point even if Hillary

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killed every person she's ever met in her life that has nothing to do with

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Bernie who if you've forgotten Hillary hates yeah yeah but that's only because

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Bernie has also killed everyone he's ever met in his entire life and the two

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of them are on a collision course. They're on a murder contest. They're keeping a tally at home.

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This election season is gonna be ugly even in ideal situations and

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circumstances the last thing we need is Chris Matthews saying dumb shit like

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Bernie might kill Bernie might kill me tomorrow I don't know we do not he's so

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stupid yeah yeah if you don't need and the way that that sort of thing I don't

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know if it's a lack of awareness or a lack of caring or how that's going to be

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used by people like Alex but I just be more fucking careful yeah so I don't

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think the people on TV who have opinions know what they're talking about ever I

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think they might be just assholes your case your your your argument is it looks

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stronger yeah by the day so I thought that this is just going to be a Chris

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Matthews talks about Bernie killing people and then Alex gets to go off on a

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Clinton conspiracy jag and I thought that was it yeah that I thought maybe

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just gonna rehash yeah some of these old Clint body bag things sure Alex can be

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like man I miss Larry Nichols something yeah I thought that was gonna be it no

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it turns out Alex has decided like why not play with fire hundreds of people

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have been sued by DNC lawyers for just questioning Seth rich's death

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governmental or political hit uh-huh FBI lying about murder of Seth rich attorney

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claims what American News is a scared they talked to the lawyer the lawyer

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says it goes all the way up to the top Hillary Clinton we're gonna goes all the

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way up as well but you see oh but you can say Bernie Sanders might kill people

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because a bunch of his staffers drool they're communists that's what communists

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do wife and children and put them in a forced labor camp sure but but it's

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legitimate to say he might do that I mean something trying to Chris Matthews

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mouth but can we say Hillary might have had Seth rich killed they sure I guess

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now asking that question that's all coming up Alex better be really fucking

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careful or else he's gonna fuck around to get himself sued oh come on you want

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to this is this is not the road you want to go down here's here's the thing he's

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making so much more money now he's like I'm playing with the house so I might as

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well go hard it seems like Seth rich on a sort of a

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slander mania yeah episode also humby hula kaya I lied about my apology he's

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still an evil guy bringing in rapist has already said that that's true he has

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already said that damn it so this is a story that Alex is covering about you

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know like one American News Network is putting this out so Alex is covering

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that it's about a couple of emails that turned up in a foyer request for all the

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emails between Peter Strzok and Lisa page there were a couple emails

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regarding Seth rich but it's pretty important to recognize the context of

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these interactions and these emails yeah Seth rich died on July 10th 2016 and

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these emails are for from August 10th 2016 they're not really about Seth rich

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or any investigation of his death it's very clear from the first email in the

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chain that this was specifically about claims that Julian Assange had been

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making really vaguely in the media that Seth rich was the source of the emails

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that WikiLeaks published this email the initial one is from the Public Affairs

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Office or the media relations section of the FBI asking some folks if the FBI had

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any involvement in this there are a lot of parts were attracted for who knows

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what reason but the exchange as it appears seems to be them saying that

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there is no FBI involvement the emails got caught up in this FOIA request

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because Strzok ended up for forwarding the email to page who was an FBI lawyer

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looping her in on the situation in case there's any legal implications right

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none of this seems very suspicious at all unless you already believe that

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Hillary had Seth rich killed and you let your imagination run wild about the

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parts that are redacted I'm very much unimpressed with this development in the

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case of this evidence and I think it demonstrates literally nothing but I am

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very very worried for Alex's legal situation what an idiot I just don't

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have faith in his ability to thread needles anymore if he gets to talking

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about this case I'm almost certain he's gonna end up slander yeah he can't he

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can't stop himself he just can't why did why isn't there somebody there to like

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just throw shit at his head and be like no no no no Seth rich like if you hear

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Seth rich somebody some kind of like can should come out and hit him in the side

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of the head because you're good point yeah you remember how bad your head week

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your shit was before yeah yeah remember how a lot of your information was lies

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the Jerome Corsi was telling you and you sued you and you guys don't like each

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other anymore you know do you read you really need to be careful Alex this is

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not a road you want to go down yeah so but it turns out Alex is basically a

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professor in like criminal justice I don't think he is he starts telling you

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how you do an investigation oh let's talk about some important things this

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segment together we're gonna bring on Colombo oh I also should point out that

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like this is after he does like a three-minute like I love the song

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stranglehold okay all right it's a juxtaposition with like fucking hate

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311 Ted Nugent that's where it's at you know you got it he's he's got strong

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takes so that's strong take that's why he's like we got to get down to some

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serious fucking around listen to Ted Nugent for three minutes when someone

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who is in politics dies getting shot a couple times in the back it's completely

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legitimate to speculate about why and how it happened and who could be behind

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it and who stands to gain the old Roman saying is kibono who benefits and in any

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investigation the first thing you look at is who would benefit from this and

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then who has the means I was not it was the mode we already said who benefits

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and then who had the ability to carry it out the means he's just repeating

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himself yeah also please Alex demonstrate kibono about the separate

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yeah demonstrate how Hillary gained from that she won great please I don't even

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think he can do that no absolutely not so Alex like really is in trouble here

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like he's he's going down the road of talking about the Seth rich again and

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like if he I can't stress this enough if he keeps going down this road it's gonna

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be trouble but not for the reasons he thinks if you talk about Seth rich you

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get sued by the DNC funded law firms

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there's over 100 lawsuits I know of name them they're scared they don't want you

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looking into it but you know the data via some of these suits actually went

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the other way came out and and it's come out in federal court that the download

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information on the hat DNC servers because you can look on the files and

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see how it was downloaded at the time it happened was six times faster than any

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streaming service capability in the world so quick point the people who are

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getting sued for spreading misinformation about Seth rich are not

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getting sued by the DNC or Hillary Clinton they're getting sued by Seth

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rich's parents who have been very clear in the past that they are being

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re-traumatized by having their son's tragic death being used for political

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propaganda there aren't a hundred suits about this Alex is making that up to

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seem like the DNC and Hillary are desperate to do a cover-up when in

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reality it's just a family fighting back against people who have caused them harm

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which seems like a theme in Alex's career it seems like he's he hurts

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people yeah he hurts people a lot and kills dogs for some reason yeah yeah

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also that stuff that Alex is saying about the download speeds being too fast

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to be a hack didn't come out in court that's stuff that past info Wars guest

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William Binney had claimed which was used to give credibility to the

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narrative that Russian intelligence couldn't have been behind the hack and

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in fact it had to be an inside job because the speeds were so quick it had

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to be a USB drive that worries to get these files salute not have been done

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no by a down low there's no such thing as a fast internet connection so the

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first problem was that this claim that the speed at which the files were

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downloaded was 22.7 megabytes per second exceeded available internet download

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speeds that isn't true yeah that can't be no that's that was speed that could

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be achieved by widely available internet connections all over the world fucking

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RCN can do that just based on that little bit of information this theory is

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shaky at best as it turns out Binney wasn't working from any real analysis of

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his own he was just using information he'd received from a man named Adam

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Carter who was allegedly a researcher and tech expert as it turns out Adam

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Carter's real name was Tim Leonard and he was less an expert as he was a 39

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year old troll from the United Kingdom with a bit of a track record of

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spreading misinformation on reddit and 4chan most of it having to do with how

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Russia didn't hack the DN that does seem that does seem pretty consistent he'd

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even created a second mysterious identity called forensicator which he

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used to prop up the findings of his other alias they worked in concert to

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prop each other up shit CBS just picked that up for a full slate this shell game

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of fake identities was tracked down by info security researcher and expert

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Duncan Campbell and this led to some interesting consequences under his Adam

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Carter alias Leonard operated a website called g-2 that sought to show that

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goose offer 2.0 couldn't have been Russian intelligence through this site

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Leonard sent William Binney a file that claimed to show that the hack was an

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inside job I'll read to you here from Duncan Campbell's piece about his

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research that was published in computer weekly quote the untitled file included

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complex details explaining how to unlock information inside a tranche of files

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released by goose for 2.0 in London metadata in the files had been

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manipulated to prove that the documents could not have been or could have been

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stolen only by a Democratic National Committee employee this file that was

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sent to Binney had manipulated metadata which made it appear that the download

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was impossible except locally sure Binney did no analysis on the files

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himself but instead took this information and took it his gospel the

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work into this file was attributed to Leonard's other alias forensicator and

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from there forensicator was I guess just deemed credible by Binney without

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further question yeah Binney began making the rounds on right-wing media

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offering this smoking gun that it wasn't Russian hacking his claims are all over

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Breitbart Hannity and of course he showed up a bunch on infowars his claims

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even made it all the way to Trump who told then CIA director Mike Pompeo to

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meet with Binney to get information that would prove that Russia didn't hack the

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DNC but he knows that they did and Pompeo did meet with me and that makes

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this very sad especially considering the next development Duncan Campbell was

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able to get William Binney to visit Britain and analyze the actual data

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contained in the actual goose for files and quote a month after visiting CIA

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headquarters Binney came to Britain after re-examining the data in the

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goose for 2.0 files thoroughly with the author of this article

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Binney changed his mind he said there was quote no evidence to prove where the

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download copy was done the goose for 2.0 files analyzed by Leonard's g2 space

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were quote manipulated he said and a quote fabrication even William Binney

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has come out and admitted that the basis for his claims about download speeds and

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how it's impossible that the hack wasn't an in-house operation was bullshit and a

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fabrication there's nothing here other than a supposed expert getting tricked

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by a troll and in the process tricking the fucking president Alex is lying

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saying that the information came out in court when in reality was bullshit that

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he unquestioningly accepted from William Binney who had unquestioningly accepted

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it from Leonard Alex is reopening his interest into Seth rich which is a

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really bad idea and defending that decision based on lies about things his

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sources don't even still believe this is bad news yeah that must have been a real

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bummer for Binney whenever it got too far cuz then he had to admit that it was

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bullshit cuz if he if it didn't go all the way up to Pompeo talking to him he

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wouldn't have retracted that he'd still be going forward it's possible it's

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possible in Campbell like kid still still gone through the process that he

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did of figuring all this stuff out yeah and convinced William Benny to come do

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the work over with him sure I imagine the Benny would have been like yeah you

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know what you're right could be I just halfway expect all of these people to

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take a fucking mask off and reveal that they're Jacob Wohl underneath like these

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people are all insane well that's another one of Alex's big narratives

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about Seth rich is the guy investigating him got shot for investigating him and

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that was the the guy Burton who works with Jacob Wohl on all these because he

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was investigating Seth rich he got shot with like a BB gun be by a guy who he

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was collaborating on a Seth rich investigation with because the

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investigation turns out see this is what I'm saying these people are all

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children not Burton Berkman yeah yeah yeah so dick all of this is bullshit

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it's it's it's outrageous it's gonna it's good if he keeps going down this

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road yeah be really bad great but I'm excited to see if he does yeah I know

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because he's a it's dangerous it is nice to see him get all that money and then

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rush as fast as he can to get sued to get it all taken away again it's very

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strange what an idiot yep so another thing that might end up costing Alex a

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bit of money is he is now comfortably settled in to selling his immune gargle

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based on a claim yeah that it is a good at preventing or helping with SARS sure

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we have sold out of the 16 ounce immune gargle that has the nano silver that's

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patented and documented even admitted in documents we've shown to go after this

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whole Corona SARS family viruses viruses of bacteria period so viruses are

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bacteria he said viruses and okay all right I struggled with that as well I

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was like I had to listen to it a couple times like did you because I know that

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he says that like all cancer is virus yeah yeah like I know that he has some

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weird thoughts about science but I think he said viruses and yeah I would have

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assumed viruses and if we weren't dealing with Alex Jones right which case

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viruses are bacteria is just as reasonable a thing for him it's a

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possible thing you might believe yeah exactly so you got that and it's like

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okay you it's clear we've seen this path over the last like week or so the

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tentative dipping the toe into the pool of yeah making these claims now he's

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just totally comfortable with it yeah why not it's let it let it ride no

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consequences for me so Jordan this next clip is long and it's very confusing

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okay I wanted to cut clips of it sure but I can't I have to present it as a

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this is a full segment okay this is this is a five-minute segment maybe four ish

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it's the first segment of it the second hour okay it's where he's coming into

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the the show and it's that segment that isn't carried on every station so

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sometimes it's a little bit strange this one is very strange okay I need you to

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take notes I need you to pay close attention because I don't know if I know

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what he's saying a couple times and I I'm very confused by this it's very

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weird when I hear about somebody dying I mean I have empathy I I'm connected to

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them I know the universe works it's bad mojo to not care I already know that

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instinctively I don't need to go like oh it's bad luck if I don't care if

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somebody gets hurt it was innocent so at this point I have to pause because this

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is after talking about Seth rich so I thought maybe he was talking about Seth

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rich but he also talked about Rush Limbaugh and how he was going to write

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right early I wasn't I think he hopes 311 dies so that's in the mix but he

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doesn't think they're innocent no that's true that's true if you'd look at the

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context it seems more likely it's about Seth rich okay or the feelings at least

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but I'm not sure see I'm leaning towards rush on this one or it could be the

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people in China I don't know I mean I guess that's why I don't think he cares

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about people in China I don't know yeah that's fair already spiritually know

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that but if I was a sociopath you'd think I'd know that but they like don't

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because they don't get the laws of nature and that's why evil always goes

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wow I can do this and this happens but they don't think about the next couple

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of things that happen so being nice is the best way to build a good

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civilization and have good people around you that are doing well I mean if people

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aren't doing well I don't care what color they are where they came from how

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does that make me better it doesn't but I then because I have a spirit and I

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have a conscience and I care I have I have nerves I have feelings I'm not a

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psychopath a sociopath I can't let people manipulate my feelings cold

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bloodedly and that's where this comes in people that are good and strong have to

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do the right thing when it comes down to it even though we don't let me tell you

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so when I fry some enemy and defeat them I don't even feel good I'm like I can't

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believe I'd have spent time on that person man and I feel bad that they like

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when I see how bad they are now we thought how bad their family is a mo

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I'm not like like a lot of people I know go around poor people they could be poor

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black people poor white people more whatever and they like feel elitist man

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you see those poor dumbass people yeah we're not like them and I'm like really

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you feel good cuz they they're they're doing bad worst job I ever had I was

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like what's the highest job I can get was a carpet cleaner with Stanley

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steamer carpet cleaner like 30 years ago right out of high school longer than

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that now I'm getting old I'm 46 when did you get out of high school and I

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remember like I get paid 20 something dollars an hour as the assistant the

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clean carpets and my other job is like nine dollars an hour yeah I'll take this

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right now until I got to people's houses and I was like again they could be white

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they could be black take me whatever why do you mainly like that I was like

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there you guys never seen anything like this a dirty car to try to describe what

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I saw in the few months I worked there dirty carpets would take hours it was

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hellish they're just dirty carpet no the Bible is true man is falling man

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paramedics the stuff they see you talk about PTSD I mean I'm not taking away

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from military people and stuff but let me take medics and people that's the

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real heroes I mean carpet cleaners carpets and all they're doing is take

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care of people that actually got their arms and legs blown off and nobody the

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military will deny those the real heroes but think about paramedics or even

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police that have got to show up and see these chewed up bodies or you drive by a

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wreck you don't know the firefighters and police are there with dead kids and

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stuff

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imagine being the first cop to pull up after a wreck there's a three-year-old

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with blood spurt now begging for mommy you're trying to save them and you can't

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and and little baby dies right and like it doesn't even matter you knew well

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that's not my fault I got there I tried to hold it around

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their neck I try to put a little baby it's a psychic wound and there's

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everybody else who just wants to go home and watch Netflix and and you know here's

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some stuff from Jeff Bezos some black lives matter let's kill the cops and

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you're just like it doesn't even fit and you got these billionaires sitting up

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there funding Bernie Sanders by the way really how much some dude make $100,000

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sucks these are sick freaks man they're sick freaks so that's what it's like to

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listen to this show a lot of the time that was that's bewildering okay I

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really do not know exactly what point he's making although I will say before

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we get to your analysis I do think I realize now to imply with carpet

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cleaning yeah I didn't understand it for a long I think he's implying that he

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cleaned up with like satanic rituals or something like that I think it has to be

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because otherwise yes it's a dirty carpet you're going to see a dirty house

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of someone who can afford a carpet cleaning company yes to cut or maybe

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he's saying that he he cleaned up murder scenes or something like that he had a

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contract with the city yeah his company did or something yeah but if he's saying

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that he cleaned up after satanic rituals then what he did is not report them yeah

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so he's complicit anyway I have no idea what he's talking about I think he just

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has PTSD from cleaning a lot of carpets I think that's the I think that's

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basically what he's described because here's here he's going through right

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give me give me the path you went all right okay so he's got empathy he does

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he's not a sociopath he is being nice and being with good people is how you

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build a good society and he doesn't like it whenever he has to smoke fools

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right that's that's why as an opponent when he fries an opponent he doesn't

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feel good because they're so weak I take no pleasure and being weak reminds him

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of being a carpet cleaner which is the same as being a paramedic right first

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responder and he said multiple times that he doesn't care what race you are

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which means he's talking about black people maybe I and poor means carpets

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PTSD dirty carpet which takes us to the cops

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uh-huh a baby at a car crash right and how that leaves a psychic wound and

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Black Lives Matter is killing babies I believe I forgot about Bezos and the

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billionaires funding Bernie right running Black Lives Matter new favorite

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Judy Blume novel see this is the experience that I go through sometimes

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like sometimes I'm able to sit here and present you with clips that make sense

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like oh here's the bullshit but like with the the clip about like it's come

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out in court these download speeds for the goose for hack like I could tell you

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what he's talking about right right that oh I forgot the Bible is true

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Bible is true Bible is true I forgot about that part based on carpet cleaning

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the Bible is true right that's what leads me to believe that he's talking

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about cleaning up like satanic rituals yeah is the connection or the Bible

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being real is very strange I refuse to accept there's a real connection to any

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of those sentences so whatever bewilderment you were feeling or the

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audience was feeling while listening to that rambling nonsense I know I have

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PTSD from it now try and imagine my life

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what are you talking about tell you what it's a psychic wound and then then

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imagine people who are listening to his show who believe him love it hearing

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that and not being like I'm worried about I can't believe how smart this guy

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is yeah he knows things oh so Alex goes to break and he comes back and he starts

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talking about a recent crime that was committed and he's being really dumb

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so we're not drama Kings we're not drama Queens but could you imagine when two

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years ago you saw Charlottesville where nope stop the crowd attacks a car a guy

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drives hits a woman she has heart attack dies it's like Trump's a murderer the

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KKK is taking over destroy America it's it's the most powerful thing ever seen

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it's all over over the hills

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you're saying it's all over run for the hills but there are only load survivors

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all the attacks on Trump supporters that means America supporters against

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bullying people that believe in self-defense people believe in life so

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many reasons the people that won't back down under intimidation the folks God's

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looking for I'll just tell you Trump's just a tester of what story up on

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enforce calm Trump supporters attacked after van plows through GOP voter

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registration tent in Florida suspect arrested just real quick Heather Haier

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didn't have a heart attack that is a white nationalist meme talking point

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that spread to deflect blame from the guy who hit her with his car the fact

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that Alex consistently brings that up isn't necessarily proof that he's

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intentionally running interference for white supremacists but it's definitely a

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telling marker as to the sources of information he deems credible yeah he

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has to be getting it through that channel yeah and he's either winkingly

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and knowingly repeating it or he just thinks that those people know what's up

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I would say the latter so a 27 year old man did run his car into a GOP voter

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registration tent set up in on Saturday and that's awful even though these

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incidents may seem similar to Alex in that they both involve cars when they're

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viewed together they actually demonstrate clearly why the national

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conversation happened after the unite the right rally and this one will not

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have the same effect the first obvious thing is that at the unite the right

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rally Heather Haier was killed fatalities will always increase the

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severity of a situation conversely in the case of this guy in Florida no

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injuries were even reported which makes his action stupid and wrong but it's not

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a clear it's clearly not as huge a deal as if he'd murdered somebody second

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while it appears that the guy in Florida didn't like Trump supporters lieutenant

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Larry Gale of the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office said that quote we don't know if

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this is politically motivated we're in Florida it could be anything you can

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make the assumption that it's politically motivated and you're welcome

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to have that opinion but the people investigating it don't know that yet so

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it remains to be seen officially conversely at the unite the right rally

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the political motives of the events that led to the car attack were pretty well

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understood and then finally you have this very basic aspect everyone knows

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that driving your car into people is wrong the left and right agree on that

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or as they should so what was particularly unsettling for people about

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the unite the right rally was Trump's response to the fallout of it when he

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said that there were very fine people on both sides to be fair to Trump he also

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said quote I'm not talking about the neo-nazis on the white nationalists

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because they should be condemned totally but you had many people in that group

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other than white now neo-nazis and white nationalists okay and the press is

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treated them absolutely unfairly so I mean we finally have a president who

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will recognize the inherent decency of people who are willing to march

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alongside open white supremacists and neo-nazis so I don't know if that quote

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actually makes things any why won't people think of the guilty bystander why

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won't they think of them Dan right everybody's all talking about the bad

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people but don't don't you want to shed a tear for the people who just wanted

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to oppress other people and had no problem alongside but of course they

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were just pop now they look better students of course yeah yeah yeah so

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instead of reacting unequivocally after the rally Trump tried to defend his side

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instead of respecting that a woman had been killed and that goddamn neo-nazis

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were marching alongside his supporters and recognizing that there was a real

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problem there he decided to provide cover and defense for them which most

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people found shocking and really disgusting which they shouldn't have

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found shocking but is very disgusting conversely in the case of this guy in

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Florida I'll read to you from the New York Post quote the Duval County

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Democratic Party said it condemned quote this cowardly act of violence no one's

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life should be placed in danger for exercising their First Amendment rights

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as Democrats but more importantly residents of the greater city of

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Jacksonville we call on our fellow citizens to act with dignity civility

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and respect for one another during this election cycle and beyond see look at

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how similar their rhetoric is to Trump's of course you have to condemn them

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roundly the same on the left I have to be ideologically consistent and say that

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their rhetoric is inflammatory huh and is absolutely going to get more people

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hurt there wasn't a defense of this guy's actions no call to consider well

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hey you know Trump's policies are pretty shitty and his supporters are defending

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a guy who's hurting a lot of people there wasn't an attempt to justify a

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clearly wrong act by deflecting which is the right thing to do this guy's

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actions are not indicative of the Democratic Party they are just his bad

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actions the actions of white supremacist terrorists would not be associated with

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Trump if he behaved differently in crucial situations like the press

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conference after the unite the right rally because we all agree that running

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your car into people is wrong and in this case no one is trying to pretend

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that the conversation is about anything other than that we all get to move

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forward after the agreement he's been arrested he will be treated as

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appropriate by the law there's no need to ask what the fuck is wrong with

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people trying to justify unjustifiable things and this is largely why this is

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just a bad thing that happened in Florida that even people like Alex will

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probably not remember in a week as opposed to a deeply traumatic event that

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ripples of which are still resonating to this day yeah these are thick there's

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it's so fucking obvious yep but Alex needs to ramp up the conservative

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victimhood juice that's so important toward to animating the the rhetoric and

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the narratives that he puts forth on his show that's the fuel that runs this

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engine what's what's disgusting to me about that is that it feels so often

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like when some kind of tragedy happens due to a white nationalist terror

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attack the right is not at all interested engaging with that they're

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just they're just excited and hoping that there will be a what about either

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later or that they can point to they wanna what about more than they want a

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resolution to anything sure yeah but it's all just in service of we are the

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ones who are under attack exactly yeah and so you see that here with Alex like

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really just lying and you see the reports every couple hours like anti

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Trumper beats head and boss beats boss to death and head with hammer and you

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just see the reports pouring out and the media says hey they deserve it so there

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was a story in late January of a construction worker in Florida who was

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accused of murdering his boss who loved Trump but he didn't use a hammer he was

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a trowel apparently the two men got into a political argument and then the dude

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killed his boss before draping an American flag on him the problem here is

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that Alex hears that this guy killed his Trump loving boss after a political

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argument and he just assumes that the murderer is a Democrat who hates Trump

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in reality the alleged murderer is one of those anti-government types who

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believes that the government is out to get him kind of a paranoid conspiracy

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theory type fella huh anyway Alex here imagine those guys committing any acts

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of violence Oh Alex is here saying that this is the you know there's all these

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news stories about attacks on Trump supporters are coming in every hour yes

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the best he can do is come up with a story from over two weeks ago that he

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doesn't really know any of the details of and it may not make the case he

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thinks he does and you could hear those long pauses cuz he can't come up with

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anything yeah he's like oh they're coming in every out if they're coming in

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every hour you should probably have a couple examples right off your head two

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week old story that probably isn't what you think it is maybe even just give the

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one that came in last hour the most recent of them do that yeah that would

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be hard ten hours a day clearly have a handle on this right what about the one

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that came in before you started the show while you were on air so but then you

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know that the issue is that like all of these Trump supporters are getting

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attacked every hour you hear the news stories of course core villains and

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demons in the media like Wolf Blitzer justify it it was like CNN years ago

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when Congressman Scalise had been shot they had a guest on saying he's a hero

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he's not a bad guy he saw fascism and fought it Wolf Blitzer said you're right

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hoping more people would come kill Trump supporting members of Congress hey wolf

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if you're ever successful start a civil war in America buddy it's open season on

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your little ass so on the Situation Room on June 14th 2017 while reporting on the

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shooting at the congressional baseball practice Wolf Blitzer played a piece

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that was compiled by CNN's congressional correspondent Phil Mattingly

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approximately seven seconds of the piece was an acquaintance of the shooter

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saying quote I just want to let people know that he wasn't evil that he was I

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guess tired of some of the politics that are going on wolf didn't say that it was

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good and in fact after Mattingly finished up his presentation of his

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piece here's what wolf actually said you know it's interesting Phil cuz clearly

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he was evil and on March 22nd as you point out he posted this on Facebook

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Trump is a traitor Trump has destroyed our democracy it's time to destroy Trump

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and company and then he said Republicans are the Taliban of the USA when you say

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on a Facebook post it's time to destroy Trump and company that's a threat

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against the President of the United States and that's a crime not only did

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wolf not support the shooters actions he directly and clearly rejected the

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statement the acquaintance made saying that the shooter wasn't evil kind of

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seems like Alex just makes up whatever he wants in order to satisfy the

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right-wing's constant need to portray themselves as victims yeah what a piece

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of shit and it's also it's also just so it doesn't matter it doesn't matter if

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it's reality or not what they want to say yeah like that's why that's why

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anytime somebody is trying to be like oh nobody will vote for Bernie because

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they'll call him a socialist it's like dude if Pete is in they're gonna call

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him a socialist it does not matter what reality is it matters what's politically

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expedient right and I mean it's just it's this is blatant yeah I'm gonna still

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blame this on the 311 though this is probably just the Alex's head is hazy

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you got he got high by contact I got a he got hotboxed with 311 yeah okay

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fucked him up yeah that'll have a terrible job so anyway he's like hey

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Wolf Blitzer open season on you when the when the war comes and Alex gets to

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rambling about fantasies about wanting to kill Wolf Blitzer right now hold on

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one second can I go back here he has empathy and it would be crazy just like

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frying his enemy doesn't like it he doesn't like it he's not a sociopath or

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a psychopath I don't know if he actually likes the frying of the enemies but he

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certainly likes talking about it sure does in the past Jordan we have said

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that Alex probably technically killed a guy I think we can now upgrade that and

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I don't want to ever see Wolf Blitzer hurt because Wolf Blitzer is a human

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maggot I mean like you really want to start a fight with us just he's just

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can't help it yeah you do don't you you're begging for it you're begging

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you're begging to get your guts stomped out hard and I don't know if you ever

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had your gut stomped out but you don't live after that happens so you not that

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I've ever stomped anybody's guts out actually I have a couple times it's not

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too nice takes people a long time to die if you stomp their guts up but that's no

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threat to Wolf Blitzer so Alex is a mass murderer he just committed murder on air

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he just admitted to murder mass there is no statute of limitations on murder we

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need to get to the bucket bottom of this check check the Dallas no for any

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unsolved yeah yeah let's go cold case files on Alex Jones only I a hundred

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percent don't believe Alex no but it stopped but it takes all based on his

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words he is a spree multiple murder multiple murder yeah no technically

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probably anymore nope Alex you are a murderer at the very least murder to at

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the very least murder too maybe he wasn't premeditated maybe he just got

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angry but man I would give him 25 to life on this you know what really

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fucked up about that clip it was like in the past whenever he's talked about like

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these probable technical murders that he's committed are always in the context

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of you know hey I didn't like to do it I was getting bullied and you know it's

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like almost self-defense in nature this is not this he's sitting there

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relishing the slowness of their death yeah this is a sick fuck right here he

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really said he doesn't enjoy frying his enemies but he does enjoy watching their

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guts spill out and slowly slowly painfully right right right he's not a

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sociopath or a psychopath Dan that would be crazy thing that I really need to put

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a sharp focus on here is that like if he's telling the truth this is the most

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fucked up thing ever but unfortunately if he's lying it's even more fuck this

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is insanely fucked up to lie about murdering people that he wants to be

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presented and seen by his audience as someone who would have slowly and

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painfully murdered multiple people yes yeah yeah that seems okay or positive to

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right so all right which is really gross there's no and it's just sick look it's

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a stand-your-ground law even if the ground is below a human's body you still

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get to stand on that ground I believe fucking gross disgusting child so anyway

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he rambles a bit about CNN because you know Wolf Blitzer got to throw some

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shots at him and then you know he's not the only one who's gonna get it sure

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Anderson Cooper a lot of people are gonna be fried yeah and if you forget

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about gods they're not gods anymore but Anderson oh just because you're the last

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Vanderbilt on the planet your brother wanted you know the investments is your

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brother wouldn't bend over what you're not gonna gang-rape America by yourself

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so after getting mad at Wolf Blitzer Alex descends into a rant just

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generally about CNN being bad and it's pretty boring and formulaic yeah I

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decided to cut this clip though because it really illustrates Alex are just

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making up the bullshit he says in his ramblings for one in 1988 Anderson

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Cooper's brother Carter committed suicide by jumping out of a window this

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is absolutely tragic and their mother believes that this was the result of a

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psychotic episode caused by bad drug interaction but Alex is rewriting it

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which is a fucking gross thing to do yeah regardless Anderson Cooper does not

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just have one sibling sure maybe his only brother from that marriage is that

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marriage of his mother's is Carter but their father Wyatt Emory Cooper is not

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where the Vanderbilt limit lineage comes from that's from his mother's side and

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Gloria Vanderbilt already had two sons when she married Cooper and they're both

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still alive ipso facto Anderson Cooper is not the last

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Vander yeah and that's not even considering that Gloria Vanderbilt had a

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sister Kathleen Vanderbilt or the fact that Cornelius Vanderbilt was their

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great-great-grandfather and he had 13 children the family is very diffused now

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and there are a ton of living Vanderbilts like guess who Timothy

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Oliphant who is Anderson Cooper's third cousin once removed all right yeah

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that's right you probably didn't even know that Timothy Oliphant is a

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Vander but I didn't know that's just because he's being sneaky with a

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different last night does sound right like Anderson Cooper yeah I'm not gonna

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hire Timothy Vanderbilt to be in my Western no tell you that right the

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Oliphant get him in there but what about James Vanderbilt the guy who wrote the

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movie zodiac the amazing spider-man and White House down that dude also wrote

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the Meg which is that movie about Jason Statham fighting a shark there are tons

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of other Vanderbilts who are still alive you just don't know about it because it

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doesn't mean anything anymore the Meg is predictive programming though

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Jason Statham will have to fight a shark eventually yes Alex is making up that

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Anderson Cooper is the last Vanderbilt to make him seem like more of a villain

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and as an opportunity to mock him for his brother's death because Alex is a

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profoundly bad person and also it turns out he probably killed a lot of people

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he's a sociopath and a second yeah he is the worst he is a fucking monster yeah

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but this is my educational corner well I where I teach the world that Timothy

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Oliphant is related to the Vander that is a nice little fun fact yeah so Alex

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goes out to break and he comes back and he's got he wants to touch on the the

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Roger Stone news oh I imagined he would but I'm just gonna stop now and go to

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your calls until the very end I've got to get this Roger Stone thing or maybe

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I should just do it at the start of the weekday show tomorrow it's guts it's all

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over the news that well Roger has to go to prison for a long time because he

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violated the gag order talking to Alex Jones really really was about the trial

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you're that much of a narcissist Roger said in news articles that he wanted a

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pardon from Trump he was convicted that's his right and it's un-american

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what this judge is doing it's insane Roger isn't going to prison because he

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violated the gag order to Alex this is one of the more pathetic straw man

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attempts I've seen from Alex lately seems like he doesn't have a good angle

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on this also because he's guilty that's the problem that is a problem yeah

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that's a bit that's an issue news broke that prosecutors are saying that Roger

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should do between seven to nine years in prison which means he'll be in like

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three maybe yeah probably won't even I have no faith in the system anymore no

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he's not going to prison under Trump's gonna pardon them interestingly there

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are no consequences for his actions anymore this episode that we're

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listening to is from Sunday the 9th of February outlets didn't report the

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prosecutor's request for sentencing until Monday afternoon which is the 10th

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this heavily implies to me that Alex is getting this news from Roger himself or

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one of his associates yeah and the spin is to say that he's being sent to prison

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for defending himself or some shit sure it's pretty sad but I'm not gonna get

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too invested in it because like I said I have little faith that he's gonna see

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the inside of a prison cell now for now this is just more of that classic

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conservative victimhood narrative building it's just very very regular it

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is so annoying that the people who fucking run everything now complain

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about being the victim total that's so annoying yep and it's all because a gag

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order man but Alex has a defense for that which isn't good because the

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defense that he denies whenever he has to go to court and they want me arrested

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they've shed for violating the guy or I talked to five lawyers about it plus I

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know common sense I'm a journalist he only has her little district I'm

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covering what she's doing everybody else is but she says I can't talk about it

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Alex is conveniently not a journalist whenever he's in a deposition it is

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strange how that happens it is strange how that feels like he's a journalist

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on air right so it's a character he's a journalist reporting that he's stomped

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the guts out of multiple people he's right so I don't think Chuck Todd would

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keep his guy his job if he was just on air just being like oh man I love

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murder oh I just murder people all the time I don't like murdering people but

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when you do murder somebody oh it feels good yeah to watch them die slowly so

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there's a hastily put together commercial that Alex plays multiple

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times during this show and I think it's kind of interesting so I want to play a

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tiny piece of it we've now confirmed from major food suppliers across the

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United States that they've already run out of supplies of affordable foods

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because of institutional and governmental buyers that's right the

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rich the powerful the elite big corporations are now buying up food

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stores at alarming rates so I've been meaning to get into this for a while

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but I keep forgetting so now now it's a good time the main driver of the sales

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pitch that Alex is going with here regarding the survival food from my

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Patriot Supply is that bulk buyers are coming in and buying up all the survival

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food on the market so you need to act now to get your food so your family

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doesn't starve otherwise it's gonna be an armored redoubt it's a pretty

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exploitative and gross marketing scheme but what if I were to tell you Jordan

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that I've seen this exact same marketing campaign before do you mean everywhere

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simultaneously right now a while back we talked about those commercials that Alex

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used to run for the weird device which I think was a solar-powered thing it was a

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cryptic commercial that warned of an impending collapse where you'd need this

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weird device and the pitch man was a guy named Frank Bates and there's this guy

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who's like hey I'm a right way I'm just like you a middle America right right

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right I'm on the grift right as we discussed when we went over this Frank

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Bates is a fake character designed to appeal to paranoid conservative radio

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listeners he was the creation of an affiliate marketing scam artist named

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Alan Balor who ran a company called reboot marketing under the umbrella of

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reboot marketing Balor had a ton of some little smaller grifts and one of them

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was food for Patriots in 2013 food for Patriots was selling survival food by

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warning their customers that FEMA was trying to buy up all the food trying to

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secure 420 million meals to feed people in their FEMA camps FEMA was buying up

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all the other available food but you could still get food from food for

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Patriots because unlike other companies they weren't sellouts to the man this

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dude Alan Balor made a shit ton of money playing on the fears of scared

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conservative audiences of people who'd been trained to think that any day Obama

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was gonna put them in a FEMA camp so in part thanks to the fake persona of Frank

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Bates who was a guy just like them who had a hot tip Alex is doing the same

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thing now and based on the fact that Alex used used to air weird device

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commercials I wouldn't be surprised if he also advertised food for Patriots

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except I'm certain that he didn't because food for Patriots wasn't a real

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company it was just Alan Balor reselling food from my Patriot supply hey mark up

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all right all right this scam is evergreen it's a good scam because

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Alex's show and basically in the entirety of right-wing media is

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predicated on amplifying manufactured fear to distract from the very real

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problems that they're making worse there will always be some sort of an issue to

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make profitable sometimes it's a black president you're sure is gonna lock you

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in a FEMA camp sometimes it's a public health crisis but no matter the exact

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character of the thing you're supposed to be afraid of if you listen to Alex

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rest assured that it will be used to sell you bullshit and my Patriot supply

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is gonna be there happily taking a cut Alan Balor was laughing his ass off at

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idiots who believed that Frank Bates was a real person and you have to be a

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complete idiot to think that Alex isn't on some level laughing at the people who

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think he's sincere too yep yep that's that's why is it so easy to get these

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people to believe grifters and impossible to get them to believe

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grifters are grifters well because I think a lot of it is really targeted at

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soft spots and rice psyches right here is something that really overrides a lot

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of your rational thinking I think I I think that something that you viscerally

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and emotionally are taught isn't something that's very easy to rationally

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unteach sure I think I think that those are such different processes that it's

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it you want it to be you wish right that it could be that but it's just

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unfortunately the world doesn't work that way yeah and even worse is that

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when you you know if you can't counteract an emotion like fear with

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rational thought you think well maybe you try and create you try and use a

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different emotion to counteract it and then you have no fucking clue how that's

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gonna go down nobody knows what happens whenever you start amping people up in

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all directions and I think that there's also a secondary problem that comes in

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that like these people like Alex have a built-in way around one of the

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teachable moments that could happen is like yes you emotionally are tricked

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into buying all their shit because of this crisis and then when the crisis

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doesn't happen you would look back and be like hey wait a second you guys

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fucked with me ah because you bought this food well that direct yeah the game

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is well we look yes we narrowly escaped exactly whatever this crisis was and

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that way you guarantee that you'll have the ability to run this scam the next

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time yes last time we almost we almost needed that food last night this time

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don't don't fuck it up yeah so it's all just super exploitative yep marketing

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and that's sad that makes me very sad it is sad and it's so clear how like Alex

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yeah when he's off air he's got to be laughing at people and also he let me go

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let me go back to my notes on his weird ramble he does not like it when people

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manipulate his feelings no so it is totally fine for him though to

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manipulate other people's well that's the best way to make sure no one's

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manipulating yours and only sociopaths and psychopaths would enjoy manipulating

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other people's feelings so right there we go so Alex goes to calls in the

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second hour of Sunday's show and one man one of his callers has a theory about

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the Wuhan quarantine that is it's really it's dumber let's talk to Luke in

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Illinois thanks for calling Luke I don't I just wanted to just say what if this

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whole coronavirus in China is just a ruse just a mask massive amounts of

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people movements so they get all these people inside these buildings then they

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go into the deep tunnel systems and move all these large huge quantities of

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people wherever it is that they want preparing for a possible ground invasion

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per se I mean what's what's this stop them you know mainstream media tells us

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don't speculate in a world of constant lies and disinfo in the whole history of

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governments staging lies and huge hoaxes you'd be crazy not to say that anything's

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possible this caller is a real dumb-dumb although I do agree with Alex that

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everyone has a right to speculate about things totally sure I wouldn't say that

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this guy can't sit around and think about how maybe this whole coronavirus

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situation is just to give millions of people into a big building so they can

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go through some underground tunnels so they can gain the element of surprise in

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a ground invasion of somewhere I think that's exactly the sort of thing that's

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appropriate for a conversation that involves a couple of dumb college

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students and a blunt it's just not a serious theory everyone has the right to

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speculate but that doesn't mean that all speculation should be respected and

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taken as equal some speculation is really stupid and just because Alex

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wants to pretend that there's moral virtue in his practice of not doing any

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work that doesn't mean he needs to validate shit like that a couple points

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if this were the plan I'm not sure how they would do that where they would be

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ground invading Wuhan is pretty inland in China so those would have to be

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really fucking long underground tunnels they'd be big tunnels I have to assume

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someone would have seen being constructed I got the channel man we can

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make a tunnel anywhere the closest border to Wuhan is the East China Sea so

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I assume that's not where they're gonna invade probably not after that the

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closest country is Vietnam but I don't think invading there makes a whole lot

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of say it's time to solve the issue once and for all Dan we're going to kill

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thousands of people build a tunnel to Vietnam and take the Vietcong I think

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that'd be a really strange move geopolitically for China to ground it

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well they have to first they have to kick out the spider leadership as we all

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know that's a huge issue that sure I mean if they wanted to go like I'm sure

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that this guy's thinking like North Korea or Russia but like there's other

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cities they could have done this and if they wanted to do that much closer much

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less tunnel yeah but that's that would set people off it's too convenient for a

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tunnel Dan you if you put it in Wuhan very no nobody's gonna be looking for

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your tunnel very dumb theory point is Alex's own shit is so weak that he can't

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afford to even push back against the stupidest things his callers say for

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fear of accidentally training them to think critically if he helps them

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recognize why their own idea is bad it's only a matter of time before they apply

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that to his bullshit and the next thing you know food bucket sales dry up and

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can't be having that so he just allows this what if what if she jinping was the

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only guy to have the corona virus so he gave it to other people because he

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didn't want to be lonely right so Alex takes some more dumb calls and you know

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he get he's loving taking these calls though because like it's just like not

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doing anything yeah callers say dumb stuff and then he's like you know what

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we're right it sounds like a good idea let's consider possibilities yeah so he

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starts thinking about like I got to do this call a call-in show this show

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that's just all calls and he's like this is this would be fucking innovative

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unfortunately like this is this is kind of like almost like you couldn't write

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this comedy what ends up happening cuz after talking about how he's gonna do

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this innovative show that's just calls he gets a call a call-in show well in

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fact I've been thinking about doing new shows and I've had a bunch of ideas but

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I can tell you I really think the answer is like two or three hours a day

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commercial free if TV and radio stations want to pick it up they can of just

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phone calls people want to hear people I mean like loved ones when I have a phone

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bank where we just don't even screen them we'll get a lot of really bad calls

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doing that you know cussing whatever we will but just boom you call you're on

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air what do you have to say maybe you get five seconds maybe you get an hour

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but you imagine just a network a satellite of just phone calls and then

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Skype calls yes see spam I want to do that that's what I want to do next I

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used to innovate stuff now I just fight the globalist all day but thank you Luke

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you do less than that the Patriots and talk shows his own right every time and

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we say it's not first-time callers he calls him we love him chase what do you

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think's going on hey Alex thanks for taking my call brother yeah you know

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real quick I think that a show you're talking about is my show actually we

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get people from all over the country and world calling and I love it and you're

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right there are some crazy so it's a little dangerous so Alex is that's I'd

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add in a layer anymore this thing that is hilarious got the next call he goes

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there's like hey that's what I do that's my show Alex why did I go to that Alex

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you're still not innovating buddy oh my god yeah that's really terrible so Alex

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goes to chase the Patriots dumb and he has a stupid point to make I don't even

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remember what it was but Alex gets another caller and man this guy is a

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weirdo this guy I kind of dig his vibe okay Jerome in New York you're on the

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air Jerome are you in New York State or New York City I'm in the Big Apple over

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here in Chinatown it's 6 40 p.m. Eastern Standard Time but guess what in mainland

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China it's 7 40 a.m. over there Shanghai Beijing Shenzhou Guangzhou hey it's time

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to get up and let's get to work folks not unless you got a lot of money not

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unless you're retired you can work from the house guess what you're gonna go get

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on the bus you're gonna get on the subway I do like his vibe too he's got a

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good vibe he's got a musical kind of speech pattern to him I think I think he

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was getting to like and he never really gets to the point I think what he

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doesn't need a point I think he transcends points I think what he was

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heading towards is like there is people with the virus and now you got to go get

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on public transit and that's not good I think that's what he was getting to but

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if he wasn't and he was just like hey it's morning in China you gotta go do

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some stuff you gotta get on the bus you gotta get in your car you're not gonna

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see a lot of traffic everybody come on you gotta work to do unless you're

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retired all right we can do this all right man I'm feeling it this guy's got

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I don't understand a word he is saying but he's got that musical tone it's it's

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almost like something you would hear like hey you know hey it's it's

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morning time in China you got it unless you're retired or rich enough not to

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work you got to get out there all right hey let's go to love it boys 740 a.m.

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and Wuhan everybody we're gonna have a grand old time everybody get your party

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hats on we're gonna get right on to it baby here's Dolly Parton's like what a

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dry time DJ like a morning DJ would have this riff every Monday all right it's

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Monday it's 6 a.m. we're gonna play some 3-eleven for you piss off somebody I

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know so I've made the point that Alex is like the way he's selling this immune

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gargle and his toothpaste that has the silver and it is really really

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inappropriate right and the way he's been making health claims about it is

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really bad but now it's even branching out even further because now he's

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advising a caller to use it for protection against coronavirus I did buy

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your immune gargle and toothpaste and all this stuff this week cuz I got to go

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back to Taiwan tomorrow yeah no if I was if I was going to Taiwan I'd be guzzling

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the nano patented silver we've got that's been proven to be able to kill

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SARS just because you have it your mouth this is the same family of SARS that's

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gonna stop it no but this is damn proven to be very effective so I mean we're

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getting now to the point where it's health advice that he's giving based on

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these claims that he's making and I I mean I just think like he's he's

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nestled into a real comfort about this yeah I don't know how this is okay it's

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not we this it's some some press needs to take this because it's not like the

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FDA or the F doesn't seem like jump in and be like yeah oh that's a that's a

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correction that I need to make also is that apparently the because he's making

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these claims in the speech form as opposed to the label on his bottle yeah

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it's more an issue with the Federal Trade Commission I got those mixed up a

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little bit in terms of what they monitor yeah this would have been a great piece

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for the for Gawker but unfortunately Peter Thiel funded lawsuits are Hogan

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stopped that yep so granted I mean he's making all these pretty outrageous

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commercials about the gargle but we do know that Alex had his first fever in

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four years yeah and he took the gargle and it cured him absolutely cured

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remember he said it cured him of course turns out it didn't oh no kind of

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exhausted today I've you know I was bragging and I mean I knocked on wood

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but head on a cold over four years and then I got one this week so I'm kind of

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out of it today I had a lot of family stuff going on so I'm trying as best I

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can I'm sorry pastor Sam and Teddy call me back tomorrow oh it looks like he was

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lying pastor Sam and Teddy pastor Sam calls in all the time okay looks like he

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was lying about yeah moon gargle curing him well so great

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Steve Botanik does still have the coronavirus I don't know if you know

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this but a lot of that a lot of the health claims that these guys are making

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cured himself okay so Alex is that's his way of being like I can't take any more

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calls yeah and I don't know I don't this is this just struck me as kind of weird

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Alex ends this show by sort of vamping doing kind of like an Oscars style thank

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you sure sure a list of thank you okay I appreciate this great crew coming in

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tonight on Sunday doing a fantastic job I want to thank all the affiliates now

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that's an AM FM TV UHF VHF cable want to thank everybody and just encourage

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folks to stay frosty stay frosty stay frosty Jesus Christ oh my god that's

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how he wraps up the show just a lot of thank yous like hey everybody stay

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frosty out there uh-huh oh god so I was just going to do an episode about the

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night because I think there's plenty in there Alex getting freaked out about 3

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11 yeah getting back into Seth rich it's 7 40 a.m. but I could just listen to that

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clip yeah for sure Alex's lies about Wolf

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Blitzer that lead to him confessing to multiple murders right there's a lot

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going on those are an issue but then I started to listen to the 10th because I

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got a tip-off that Robert Barnes was back oh I'll go ahead and listen to this

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episode of course Barnes his appearance isn't really that exciting did they did

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they make up Barnes seems to be willing to call in now as opposed to come to

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studio very frequently yeah he calls in it's fine it's whatever he's like

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calling for a new church committee a hearing and whatever yeah so but there

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is something that's going on that's worth noting on this episode I'm not

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gonna get into like his standard coronavirus stuff because it's just

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yeah we got its background dressing on we got there's something more important

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going on the first is that Alex is really excited about things that Charles

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Murray has to say which is a bad idea but that leads him to basically telling

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his audience that it's time to go to the woods okay Murray says we're living in

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post-america he says move to a small town to survive

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the collapse and yes if we don't turn America around and route the leftist

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poison ideology that is designed to collapse society then the producers

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whether you be white black Hispanic old young but people that want to live like

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normal humans and want to live in what America was if you don't want to live in

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the globalist paradigm that's actually taking us backwards we're going to have

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to move to geographic areas and then pass laws and have culture and systems

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that do not tolerate the left because they don't tolerate us they come in and

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take over and then end their elections I wonder if that's gonna end up looking at

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all like a white ethnostate theocracy wonder yeah this isn't good man Charles

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Murray is the author of the book the bell curve which has been widely

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discredited but yet lives on as one of the foundational texts among the race IQ

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people who like to argue that minorities are genetically less intelligent than

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white people but white people less intelligent than Ashkenazi Jews well

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hey that's another part of white supremacy respect your enemy haha his

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career has largely been about trying to take social ills like racism and sexism

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and explain them with genetics and it has not been a good career you don't

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have to feel like it's your fault at all Charles Lane did a piece on the bell

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curve in the New York Review of books and noted that it was weird how a number

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of the experts he cites in the book are explicit racists and Nazi sympathizers

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less than they are respected experts in the field that the book is supposed to

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be covering it's a pretty well explained thing that the bell curve is trash and I

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would say that if you hear anyone citing it as a source or speaking well of

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Charles Murray that's a red flag they might have some crypto positions they're

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trying to sneak into the conversation yeah it seems like Alex might be into

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what this dude's got to say and now we've got to isolate we've got to move

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our conservative right-wing stuff into small areas and then take over yeah

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that's a bad bad development I would prefer if they just went to the regular

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woods and stayed there get rid of everybody get rid of your social

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security cards get rid of all I'm talking rank-and-file GOP we got to get

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them all into the woods well it's more about going to rural areas which is what

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Alex is telling his audience explicitly that it is time to write you need to

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self-select if you have children you have a duty to go to rural Christian

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areas and to raise them outside of the big cities in the suburbs it's not

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running to go to those places but you have to be politically involved and

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fight for the rest of the nation and against the globalist while you're there

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but you need to run with your children to the most conservative Christian

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nationalist patriot area you can okay this is like I know that his audience

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probably isn't going to hear that and be like well let's go yeah but if there are

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a couple people who take his advice he's basically telling his audience to

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uproot their lives yeah and go someplace where they can be in a cult kind of yes

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yes what they should do is go create utopian communes based around Christian

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conservative idealist you know how those work out I don't think that this is a

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good development but Alex is pretty consistent about it throughout this show

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he's he's yeah this note hard is yeah his rhetoric has taken the Jim Jones

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fleeing to Guiana yeah I know it's it's it's approaching that step or at least

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that sort of conversation is becoming introduced into the proceedings which is

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not good I mean I think it's also part of the just voting block that idea of

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people in cities are more exposed to learning and less it less likely to be

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you call it learning yes oh I apologize brainwashing yes apologies but this also

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raises the question of like Alex you live in Austin what are you talking

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about he's moved to the woods he is not although he does make a completely not

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true claim and this next clip and as soon as I can I am moving out of Austin

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you know my mom's from here and my family's from here but it is I would

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never move my children to San Francisco and it's it's in San Francisco in a lot

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of areas now and it's getting worse you can afford it and it's California

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collapses it's it and our offices are here there's no way I can move these

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offices but I I certainly can move my children to a safer distance away from

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Sodom and Gomorrah and then lost the future telecommute in a lot of the time

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because we have to put our money where our mouths are which you don't do it

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really is time to evacuate every major blue city crap hole so Alex is

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suggesting that he's going to move away from Austin and telecommute in he's just

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going to do his show remotely from somewhere well why do you need that

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multi-million dollar studio well I mean you don't need I wonder if this is maybe

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an excuse for the coming downsizing that he's going to have to do because he's

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running out of fucking money even with the infusion of whatever he's making

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from the silver and food bucket sales it's not enough to right the ship I

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think this is bullshit I think I do to bullshit I do too but it could be a

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preemptive it could be priming of people for when inevitably he might be doing a

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podcast what an asshole it's only way to do it safely yeah get out of the blue

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city where I'm competing with another podcast for number one Alex Jones based

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podcast good luck good luck Alex good luck we'll see you on it yeah no I don't

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think he'll be allowed on iTunes so Alex take some calls and of course the

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subject of the coronavirus comes up and man that dude who is talking about the

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the sort of tunnel theory uh-huh he was dumb but this guy is also done okay

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we're gonna find out real quick the morbidity rate and I hope it's super low

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in fact I hope it's zero what are you predicting it's gonna be I'm hoping it's

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gonna be low but like my brother told me I don't know where he got this from the

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thought of it they said just remember don't pop any bubble wrap because all

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the air comes from China another good point another good point you know that's

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the Chinese have ruined even the satisfying feeling of popping bubble

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wrap Dan man with their air that they put inside totally why are you asking

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this random caller what his prediction is action for the morbidity rate

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ridiculous I don't know but Chinese air will kill you it's in it's in bubble

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wrap it's in some corn the largest bubble wrap company in the world is

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Sealed Air Corporation which was started by who was an engineer who lived in New

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Jersey their headquarters is currently in Charlotte North Carolina and I can

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find no evidence that their bubble wrap is primarily made in China also bubble

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wrap is sterile the inside of it so much so that you can find a 2014 study from

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NPR I'm sorry story from NPR about how researchers at Harvard found that they

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could use bubble wrap as makeshift makeshift kind of test tube which could

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have amazing applications for underfunded scientists particularly in

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developing countries they wrote up their findings in the journal analytical

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chemistry and everything I could yeah that's really cool yeah a follow-up

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study in the biomedical optics Express Journal had this in its abstract quote

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in this paper we demonstrate that the bubbles of bubble wrap make ideal

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trapping chambers for integration with low-cost optical manipulation the

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interior of the bubbles is sterile and gas permeable allowing for the bubbles

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to be used to store in culture cells or while the flat side of the bubble wrap

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is of efficient optical quality to allow for optical trapping inside the bubbles

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if the interior of bubble wrap is sterile enough for scientists to use

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them to create lab cultures I don't think this caller and his dumb brother

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need to be too worried about it but here again we have Alex responding to a

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caller making a very stupid point by saying it's a good point it's almost

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like he has a vested interest in validating and supporting really bad

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thinking in his audience Jesus Christ yeah she's don't pop those bubbles you

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see the games are being played here's all stupid so we know that in the past

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whenever Alex has gone on these large-scale narratives like with the

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Boston bombing in particular at least in terms of the ones that we've seen and

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really focused on and the Trump stuff to to a chance that sure we've seen

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evidence that his traffic was way up and now as he embarks on this coronavirus

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shit we see him experiencing the same thing well I'll say this band on video

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is really exploding solicitors are doing a great job getting the videos out we

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we're getting four or five six million views a day now Amanda a video that

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really pisses Google off in the establishment they thought they would

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silence everybody but they have no it's just me on it up but yes dr. Boyle said

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on Friday the White House should investigate this is man-made hours

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later they made that announcement nope it was the day before Thursday they

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made Alex is still trying to create that appearance that the Boyle interview led

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to Trump science advisor sure coming out who I think he still thinks is Anthony

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Fauci which is funny great so again here's another example of Alex using the

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health claim about the the silver in order to sell his toothpaste and immune

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gargle which is not cool we sold out of the 16 ounce nano silver that's so good

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to counter the whole coronavirus family we have the three ounce left it's

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selling out quickly as well as the one ounce that's selling out very very

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quickly and it's great to have regardless spray on your hands and body

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you can also ingest it it's an info or store calm and the entire toothpaste

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line both super blue and super silver tooth whitening habit in it as well so

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he's just he's brazen just silver silver put it in your body uh-huh Jesus

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so Alex has Barnes on and we don't have too many clips of this because I didn't

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find it all that interesting yeah but there are a couple things and one is

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that they're talking about how Trump has beat the impeachment thing and so he's

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like hey Barnes how are they gonna how are they gonna come at him next and I

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think Alex might have something in mind here how do you think they're gonna try

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to come up the president next if he doesn't go on the offense immediately

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stage three is definitely coming I think they were thinking about these firings

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but I think they recognize it's too close in time so stage three is either

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going to be right in the middle of the election or right after the election my

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guess is it's coming as an October surprise against President Trump again

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but what would it be I'm asking that level oh it will be of the same it'll be

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the same type but they will try to it will be same international and

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orientation will be some sort of Russian collusion component again but they've

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they've tried the campaign aspect they've tried the institutional aspect

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so my guess this one's gonna be personal they're gonna try to go after him or his

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son and try to tie it into money in some way that's right they're gonna try to

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find somebody that's done something corrupt in their giant orbit threaten

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them with prison if they don't say Trump's laundered money or something I

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agree they're gonna go after mafia ties next that's what my gut tells me all

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right we'll be back your call straight ahead when have we heard Alex talking

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about Trump and mafia ties past cheese oh maybe before he supported hey with a

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name like Corleone you get arrested but the name like Trump you don't Trump is

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mobbed up he's not really rich everyone knows it interesting I think that's

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preemptive damage control yeah case there is a story that comes out that is

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more explicit about linking Trump to mob money the p-tape is real I think that's

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Alex recognizing like a piece of his awareness like you might need to protect

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against this so let's predict in advance that this is going to be something that

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comes up so it much like a vaccine inoculates the audience that was one of

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my that's one of my huge fucking annoyances that the way it was portrayed

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so many times in so many different media outlets of like Trump defeats

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impeachment push or Trump beats the impeachment which is fucking bullshit

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Trump what he did was everything possible to fuck up the defense yeah

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that they put towards him Trump didn't beat shit Trump was protected by a

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corrupt fucking fascist organization that's what happened all the GOP except

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Romney don't don't say Trump beat anything he did the crime and then he

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actively worked to undermine his defense he tweeted further afterwards undermine

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it more he tweeted himself through it that's what he did yeah yeah sure self

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care with yeah just a bunch of fucking admitting to crimes on video assembling

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perhaps the best legal team this side of the OJ trial hey when you can get Dersch

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there's nothing else you can do yeah yeah so Jesus Christ they're talking a

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little bit about the firings the Trump has started cleaning house right right

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right you and Barnes is super into that yeah that's a surprise this purge is

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not a purge it's a cleaning house and Bob I don't want to to my still your

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own or anybody's but but I know the White House listens I know they've got

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a whole office does that's what they want Miller we come on Friday with a

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head of the former bioweapons treaty developer for the u.s. they had guy he

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says they've got to come out the White House must say it looks like it's

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man-made call for investigation five hours later they do it he's just lying

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to Barnes about the timeline jeez it Barnes I'm sure knows to of course yeah

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and anybody even Stephen Miller if he does listen which I can't imagine but

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even if he does listen he's like oh my god this guy's gonna be so easy to use

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yeah exactly like he's he's not gonna listen to that weird ramble of Alex

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talking about carpet cleaning and shit be like man this guy is good yeah he's

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not gonna listen to Alex be like when you stop a guy's guts out they die slow

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and I've done it multiple times be like that I could see him listening to the

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cleaning the carpet cleaning no right nonsense that's ridiculous so we got one

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last clip here and it's Barnes is still there but Alex goes to calls and he

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takes a call from a guy who has some updates about the coronavirus numbers of

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the coronavirus they started reporting the cases that people have recovered and

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so three thousand six hundred and sixty nine people have been reported to

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recover from it nine hundred ten people have died that comes out to be a twenty

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percent mortality rate so even the official numbers now show it has a much

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higher death rate than they were saying yeah the Chinese government says fifteen

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percent well Barnes you look at a lot of numbers you're a big numbers cruncher

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you're very successful what do you think about the numbers numbers are gonna

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continue to rise so this caller is misusing statistics that twenty percent

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figure comes from a study that looked at patients who had to be hospitalized

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because their cases were really severe which includes only people who had been

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they'd had their condition progressed to the point of having pneumonia right the

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number of people who have recovered from the disease is not an accurate picture

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of people who got a mild case and then just had some flu symptoms and got

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better it's specifically the number of people who were hospitalized for

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pneumonia from the corona virus who recovered and left the hospital and

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honestly you know even if you're talking about a 20% mortality rate for people in

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that subset of people who got the virus that's not wildly out of sync with the

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general expectations you'd have for people who have cases of pneumonia

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generally yeah according to healthline quote the 30-day mortality rate for

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people with pneumonia is five to ten percent of hospitalized patients they

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can be up to 30% in those admitted to intensive care oftentimes these numbers

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can sound really horrifying when they're presented out of context like this

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caller is doing it's really irresponsible of Alex and particularly

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Barnes to frame it like that yeah good work Barnes they need to be able to

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understand the statistics that they're talking about and discuss them

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appropriately or else what they're doing is just yeah ridiculous and that's what

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you see consistently throughout all of this like Alex is taking information

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from callers and validating it he has no idea what this caller is talking about

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be like haha yes you got him he's taking a call from a guy who's worried about

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bubble wrap and being like that's a great point he's taking a call from a

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guy who's like I think that they're trying to hide a land invasion of

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something yeah and he's like hey we have the right to speculate about whatever we

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want good on you I can't imagine why you Trump keeps winning non college educated

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whites that seems odd to me you don't know demographic with these callers are

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although if you look at cast in places that break down Alex's listener base

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yeah does seem like that as a heavy heavy section of his target demo might

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be so anyway we had to the end of this and man I was pretty glad that there was

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some non coronavirus stuff to talk about yeah that was nice William Binney stuff

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Seth rich business course Alex lying about Wolf Blitzer and confessing to

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murder is stopping guys I point can't can't say no to a good gut stomping I

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think that that I mean that's pretty bad oh I forgotten how to context

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drop here you go well I piss all over your God I piss all over the state oh so

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anyway Alex isn't a pissing yeah it's a family show though absolutely um so yeah

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I don't know that's the show close and strong day I don't have any real I piss

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all over his show I have a summation it is that Alex is a psychopath and he is

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manipulating people's emotions let's see what else is gonna point he said he

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wasn't even even still he was a he he said that cleaning carpets was

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disgusting so I assume that he is against Trump cleaning house I imagine

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he has PTSD he respects paramedics who Trump in his budget is probably cutting

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all of this everything in his ramble is the opposite of what is true Dan did

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that must mean he enjoyed cleaning carpets I might whoa oh this could be

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crazy it does add one more to our long list of chemicals that Alex has had in

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his face who knows yeah anyway we'll be back but until then we have website we

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do it's knowledge fight calm yep we're also on Twitter we are on Twitter it's

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Leo I'm DZX Clark I am the last living Vanderbilt Andy in Kansas you're on the

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air thanks for holding hello Alex I'm a person color I'm a huge fan I love your

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work I love you