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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm damn sure couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joe

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Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan. You got some new pots. Tell me about him well Jordan as you know

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I've got a little bit of a green film lately

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I've been growing some stuff in this new apartment one of the things I wanted to do I have a nice

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Oh god damn like

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My cat is apparently trying to eat them now on my windowsill anyway

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My point is this new apartment that I have has a pretty nice windowsill with a lot of good amount of light

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That's provided get down

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Oh

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She's trapped behind the pot. She's gonna. I'm gonna throw something

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Okay, she's down

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The problem is cats and plants both like windowsills and what we just experienced was me freaking out that Selene is gonna eat these plants

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Before they've come to growth anyway. I'm growing a number of things growing tomatoes peas lettuce

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Some flowers some peppers all looking very good, and I've you know it's a process you live and you learn

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I've never really grown anything especially indoors, and I left them in those sort of like seed

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Germinating pods yeah way too long way too long. Oh way too long. Oh, I thought it was way too short

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I thought they were growing really well, and I was having a lot of progress with them

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Uh-huh, but it turns out like when I tried to transplant them over a lot of them were clearly dead. Oh

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Okay, um so like just you couldn't tell because the top of them looked okay, but the the roots were all fun, right?

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Right right, so I've learned lessons. I can take with me into the next time. I grow some plants

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This is a fucking boring ass beginner really the highlight was

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It's just not gonna get better shan't eat my peas

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This is a podcast where I'm learning a lot about growing plants

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And I know a lot about Alex Jones, and I am learning a lot about both indeed well a little bit about one

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Oh today. We are ending the week Jordan. It's very exciting to be at the end of a week

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I'm still struggling with whether or not. I should have thrown these scissors at my cat

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For the record I didn't I just thought about it's true um

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It's been it's been a week man. Yeah, there was a lot

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And then Wednesday was maybe more fun

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but also still a lot and then we come to the end of the week here, and I wanted to jump back in to

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2013 to our investigation of what Alex was up to in the aftermath of

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Sandy Hook of course reporting on it

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And I got way more than I could have ever bargained for and we'll get into that

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But first I need to give a shout out to some people who have joined up and are supporting the show

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So we'll we'll get that updated and let's get out of this. Yeah whole catalyst. What are we dogs? Yeah

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Dog aliens are we dog aliens? So Jordan, do you remember what happened at the on our last episode?

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From 2013. No, which one was that? I remember April 5th and no, this is January January

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All right. What month are we in this last time? We covered January 10th through 13th

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2013 and Alex was really obsessed with the idea that on here's Morgan. Oh, well, there was bad

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There's definitely then on the next day. He was gonna have a huge guest

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Yes, and you revealed that it was not a huge guest. It was the Obama phone

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Today we are going over January 14th 2013 the day the Obama phone lady showed up that went down in

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Infamy. Yep, and here's an out-of-context drop from today's show

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That's what feminism is is house slaves

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So on the last episode Alex was so pumped about this he was talking about how like he didn't even say it was the Obama

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Phone he was like, I've got such a huge gas the hugest of guests

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I don't want to jinx it by saying who it was lest something fall through

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What if she got busy right her phone is obviously ringing off the hook

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And so Alex

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Opens up this show in the exact same mood just pumped

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Ladies and gentlemen, it is the 14th day of January

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2013 we're gonna be here live or willing for the next three hours

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And again, I am your host Alex Jones. We do not have any guest today except for the Obama phone lady

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You might have recognized an essential problem with the beginning of this episode

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And that is that Alex doesn't seem to know her name at all

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here is another clip where he just refers to her as the Obama phone lady and

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And quite frankly, I haven't really hardly seen my children the last few days. I've been working so much over the weekend

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And I and I'm I want to go home and see them tonight

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But I also want to take Obama phone lady out to dinner. You know what I'll do

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I'll have my wife come meet us for dinner

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We'll take

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Obama phone lady and her husband

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We're gonna tell you her name and everything here on air once I figure out what it is

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The Obama phone lady mister, uh-huh her husband Obama phone lady, man

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So you might at this point be questioning how did this happen why is the Obama phone lady coming on to Alex's trail

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It's a really good question. We'll get into who she is and all this stuff. So apparently he doesn't know who she is

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Either he knows enough. That's true. He knows what she stands for in the conservative media phones, and that's plenty

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But in this next clip Alex explains how it came to be that the Obama phone lady ended up in his studio

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People are asking why are they why have you gotten Obama phone lady here? Well number one

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I said the listeners there'd be a $5,000 bounty

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For whoever got me a hold of her

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That's some good English there that there would be a $5,000 bonus for whoever got us in touch with her

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And then if we actually got her on air $5,000 bounty

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And I got to talk to the guys that actually ran into her at a

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Store and did this and obviously asked them if they want any of that bounty to go to her

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but we flew her down here and

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She is here. So he paid

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$5,000 for one of his listeners to go find her and then paid to fly her to Texas

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So he's in the hole for this. Yeah

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Could have just sent like an email to how would he how would he know how to get a hold of her?

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Oh, they no one had her name

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She was just someone who appeared in a fucking viral video. Yeah. Oh

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Okay, Alex is like really trying to do some digging here. Okay

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He didn't have an email address as we learned later in this episode. She doesn't even have a computer. So what? Yeah

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Okay, so he wouldn't have been able to get a hold of her except by some buddy on the ground

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They're finding her. Yeah, this guy does Alex has to give that guy $5,000

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That's no good. And then Alex has to pay to fly her and her husband to Texas. Oh, man, that's a bummer is trying

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Yeah, really hard. Yeah, but well and unfortunately, it doesn't feel that great to him once she's there

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Oh, man, it does. He's elated but at the same time

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Her presence makes him feel a little bit self-conscious. I

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Was not even excited about going on piers Morgan didn't even have butterflies

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I

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Didn't wear a sports jacket for Obama phone lady. I think I'll go put a tie on

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Oughta put some diamond cufflinks on

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I'm wearing a short-sleeve shirt. That's not respectful enough. That's actually all I had back there in my wardrobe

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I sent stuff away to be cleaned. Okay, uh

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Just she's coming

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Maybe get her husband in here with her

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He's a character too, but it's a big deal

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It's a big deal. He just described his wardrobe as being not respectful enough and yet he still

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He has not and he won't for a while this is the beginning of the fucking show

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Yeah, it's maybe half an hour 40 minutes of Alex being like I can't believe Obama phone ladies

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I really can I do not deserve to be around her really

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She is the most exciting celebrity I have ever met in my life. That seems crazy. It is

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So Jordan in order to fully understand the context around which the Obama phone video the which features Obama phone lady

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Yes, you understand the context that existed in back in 2012 when it was released

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It's important to remember a couple of things

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First the video was posted and went viral about a month before the 2012 election

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Which Mitt Romney had what was looking like worse and worse chances of winning with each passing day

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His campaign was in need of an October surprise that didn't appear to be coming

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in fact

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the opposite had come on September 17th 2012 a series of tapes of Romney speaking at an exclusive

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$50,000 a plate private dinner had been released and a large portion of the response to them were that Romney had straight-up

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Fucked himself over the tapes show an out-of-touch fairly resentful rich prick

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Speaking freely because he knows he's surrounded by people who are the same

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The line that most people ran with in terms of reporting was this quote

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All right

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There are 47 percent who are with him who are dependent on the government who believe their victims who believe the government has a responsibility

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To care for them who believe that they're entitled to health care to food to housing to you name it that's entitlement and the government

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Should and that government should give it to them. He goes on to say quote my job is not to worry about those people

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After a lackluster Republican National Convention Romney hadn't seen a considerable bump in his numbers

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So his campaign had announced they were going to move away from attacking Obama and focus on what good things Romney could do if he was

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Elected then almost immediately this tape comes out to the surface of him telling a room full of multi-millionaires

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That almost half of the country are people he's not supposed to care about as president

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This is a huge crisis for him. If you recall. Yeah, it didn't it didn't play. Well, it looked bad

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Because this was because it was bad because that whole thing was so insane people have largely forgotten that he also said this in

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That video about his own wife quote we use and sparingly right now. So people don't get tired of her

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It's like a real piece of shit guy

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Hey, who cares? He put his dog on top of his fucking car and drove it and then tried to get a job from Trump

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How did he yeah, how is he? How is he's a senator, right? I think so

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Yeah, I believe that's where he's landed. You can can you do that?

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Can you just put a dog on top of your car drive with it and then America's just like that's fine

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Don't leave you laugh about it. Oh my god

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So Romney's campaign was in trouble and the perception that he was a complete asshole who would sell out the poor to make the rich

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Slightly richer was starting to take hold because it was true

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The right-wing media sphere needed to come up with something compelling and they needed it fast

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And luckily that thing fell right into their lap about a week later when a youtuber named real freedom

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1776 posted a 44-second video of Michelle dowry who is now known as the Obama phone lady

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Yelling about how Obama gave her a phone and he should stay president so he can do even more

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Here is the complete audio of that video

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I

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Think that's a repeating. Yeah, I think you did it. No, I think that's oh, I think the video might be shorter than

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Seconds, I realize now listening to that. I think that is just like the same

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Yeah, it sounds like a loop. So if the problem was that Romney's face had been attached to the idea that

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47% of the population was a bunch of freeloading inconsequential moochers

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Then the natural solution to that was to make someone else's face living proof that Romney was right and that this person embodies that

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47% she's a welfare queen big Reagan's welfare queen all over again bingo real freedom

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1776 had very few subscribers on YouTube

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But that didn't really matter his video was posted on September 26 2012

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Onto YouTube and the very next day the video was the top link on the drudge report with the headline quote Obama has my vote

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He gave me a free phone

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From there. It was parroted down by the right-wing media figures who have pretty much made careers off

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Just reading drudge headlines and riffing off them. Yeah, it's like Alex Jones Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh

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the message was clear as conservative commentators were quick to link this viral video to a defense of

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Romney's horrible statements. It was very clear that this

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existed in

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opposition to each other right

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They pushed the idea that this woman that at that point anonymous

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Was the face of the 47% that Romney was criticized for talking about?

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She was proof that Romney was right and the attacks against him were really just to cover up how right he was

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It's important to remember that this video went viral for two reasons and two reasons only

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one people laughing at this woman many of whom were doing it for racist reasons as

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Expressed by this poster on stormfront quote first

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I thought this was a joke

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But it's real racial inferiority on display a lot of people just thought the video was funny in an absurd way sure

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I I do I believe that there are people who thought this was funny in a non racist way

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But make no mistake a large portion of the people who thought the video was funny thought it was funny because how closely it mirrored

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Their racist stereotypes. Oh, yeah

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to the other reason why this got really popular was that there was a

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Coordinated media blitz to push this video in an attempt to help the Romney campaign

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This was the bandage to stop the bleeding from the fundraiser videos. Hold on. Are you saying that there is an entire media?

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operating an entire media operation that supports right-wing candidates regardless of fact or

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rational reporting I mean

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Some of it and especially back in 2012

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It might not be as formal as some of it appears to have been in the last election cycle

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But yes

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There is a there is a pipeline for this sort of thing might be and they needed like I said to stop the bleeding

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So this was pushed aggressively. It was top-linked on drudge and immediately became the boogeyman of conservative top

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Talk radio the video and audio were played incessantly on these radio shows with the hosts then mocking and finger-wagging

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About the entitlement state and how this woman is proof that their and randy and bullshit was right all along

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the second group of people these people who were using it as a bandage to stop the bleeding in the Romney campaign were using the

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Video for political points and once Romney lost they didn't need her anymore. They didn't talk about the obama phone lady

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Once their purpose they were using her for was gone

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I'm sure she'll be brought back up in passing when the midterms come along but looking back at the coverage of the story

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It's clear that it existed in the right-wing media just as a Hail Mary to try and help Romney

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When you see something like this where a story in the media is so coordinated for such a specific purpose

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They kind of speaks volumes when a certain outlier continues to cover that story long past the point where it's progenitors have left it

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in the dust

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Alex Jones is interviewing the obama phone lady on January 14th, 2013

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Quite a while after the 2012 election. Yeah

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Why wouldn't you

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How could you not if you if you get a hold of the obama phone lady you don't turn down that call it's big stuff

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Oh

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Okay, I mean it's a verbal contract if he says I'm gonna give you five thousand dollars for finding her

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So maybe he wanted her before the election. Yeah, but then he's like I gotta honor the contract

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I might as well fucking have her on it really does kind of sound right now just from the first opening bit and the fact

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That he doesn't know her name and did not bother to learn it prior to having her. I mean, I think he know that's not fair

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I think he knows it, but he doesn't remember. Okay

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Well

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Yeah, that might be worse

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Well, I think also it could be one of those things where her name is Michelle and Obama's wife is named Michelle

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Okay, so he might be second-guessing himself while he's on air like he doesn't want to call her the Michelle obama phone lady

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I want to say that her name is Michelle, but am I just thinking of Obama's wife, right?

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Right. What if her name is Monique or something like that? I look like an asshole

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Yeah, so I know like I know that I could just call her obama phone lady and that's totally fine

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Yeah, apparently, I don't know. But yeah, he does not I think he's probably not stoked about having to spend five grand on

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Maybe not. I don't think he's I don't think he's stoked but she's there for a reason

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Oh and it's outside of what most of the right wing used her for okay

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The coverage of the obama phone lady video was full of accusations of racism and I think that people were right to make this charge

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Oh, it's like the Atlantic ran pieces about how racist everyone's response to the video was but they make an important distinction that the video

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Itself isn't racist nor is the person who recorded it or posted it

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They assert that quote the racism comes when drudge rush the people who giddily

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Retweeted the link do a mental calculation that if enough people would just see this video

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They would support Romney because it plays on the same racist stereotypes that are usually trotted out this time of the election cycle

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Yep, the article in the Atlantic goes on to say quote the point of the video and the reason drudge and limbaugh hyped

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It is to say this is what Obama voters look like black poor stupid and after your money

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The video subject wasn't picked out because she happens to be black

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She was picked out because she is black Lee Atwater strategist for Ronald Reagan and George HW Bush explained how all this works way back in

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1981

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better to talk about cutting taxes and busing because it's quote a hell of a lot more abstract than n-word n-word and

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This is the same angle Alex is taking on the video long after it clearly didn't serve its intended purpose of driving people to

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Romney

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Alex I'm not saying that the n-word n-word part is Alex's intended purpose, right?

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But the point of saying this is an Obama supporter. This is what they look like. Yeah

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is

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That's his that's his goal. Okay, so his goal is to use her as a archetype. Yeah

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Yeah of an Obama supporter right the you know Obama comes out and he reads off

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Teleprompters and he looks really really smart and like he knows things. This is what they're really like, right?

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What is that what he's doing is it's almost like he's they've created a straw man

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And then it was brought to life in the form of what they think she is

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and you see what I'm saying and that's part of why Alex has to pretend he's so excited to see her and she's such a

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celebrity he has to walk this really fine line of

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Like overdoing it because if he doesn't he's just gonna yell at her or something like something along those lines

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Okay, so what the fuck is gonna happen? He has to push like he has to create this

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spectacle of

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Artificial respect in order to safeguard himself from very real accusations that you're having your her on your show for nefarious

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reasons, right, right, right, he's excited as a way of hiding the fact that he's

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racist

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But maybe we're wrong

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That tone of voice says no

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This next clip Alex talks about how he's going to hire the Obama

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And I'll just be honest with you here

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About this is that it is my hope to stay in contact with Obama phone lady

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We'll give you your full name and stuff on air when she joins us. All right, and to try to

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Basically, maybe even have her as an auxiliary reporter. I don't even told her this yet. I'm just saying it all on air

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and to try to

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Educate her. Okay, that's a little patronizing

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Yeah, but in this next clip he discusses how she should get into comedy. It's a good thing

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It's a good thing for Alex that Obama was reelected

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Otherwise, she might not have a phone with which for him to stay in contact

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spoiler alert she would okay, but

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The it's good that she Obama won because otherwise this pageant wouldn't

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Yeah, you'd be out $5,000 and it'd be pointless to have her as a guest. Oh, yeah, that's true

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Yeah, what if Romney's in office? They're like, well now we've got the lady who yelled the Oh Romney sucks bad

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Great

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so like Alex one of his big things is that he

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Introducing talking about her is saying that she should get into comedy and into voiceover work

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Okay, which he expresses in this next clip. We see I'm not gonna lie to this lady

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I told her it's hilarious what she did. I don't agree with the dependency

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I

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Think if you play your cards, right and if you go to some small-time comedy clubs and get under the right person's wing

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You can do that comedy comedy pieces and probably become very famous. She's got natural talent. Okay

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I don't have

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Okay

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Now you may continue okay

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I thought you as someone who actually does do comedy still might have a thought about how stupid

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That's what you do she could get just go to it just go to an open mic or like the Octomom do a tour

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I don't know that might be true. I don't know. I bet she's got some good stuff

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You know, you see all these things were like people who are on reality shows and stuff end up like headlining clubs

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Yeah, and then comedians all complain about it. Yeah, wasn't that she could probably have done some sets

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I'm where but it wouldn't work. It'd be a flash in the pan

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Well didn't Amy Schumer get started doing that didn't she?

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I think I think her story is like she'd done one or two open mics before she did last comic standing and now she's Amy

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Schumer or whatever, but at least last comic standing is a stand-up show, right?

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So at least it's a reality show that is based on stand-up

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It's not the same as being on Temptation Island and then doing stand-up or some shit. That's fair. I don't know

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I think she'd be great on Temptation Island. Whatever. I think everybody's great on Temptation Island. Absolutely

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My point is that this is silly that Alex is like she should be a comic. I mean, she's fucking hilarious

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But there's this there's this weird trend that's going throughout they like I don't really I don't really care about any of this stuff

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It's just Alex being stupid, but it's important to consider how he's ramping this up

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Because it's like what do you fucking think that this seems real to anyone?

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Yeah, do you think that anyone who's ever listened to your show doesn't think like this is a weird Alex. Yeah

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is not in character for him. This is very strange. What are you doing? Alex? It's

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Suspicious he's very suspicious very it's it's almost like he's going over the top in order to

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Well, we'll build this woman up. Yeah, because he but it's building her up with the also added piece of like

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You know patronizingly talking about wanting to educate her wanting to help her and that comes up in this next clip

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It's gonna be a study of

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can we

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Help somebody but it's not like, you know, the Eddie Murphy movie where they make a bet that they can't help somebody I know

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that

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We can probably try to help this lady and help others by her example. We'll be right back. Stay with us

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All right, so we got a trading places situation going on here, but it's not like that like that

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It's not like that because it's not betting that you can't

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Help oh boy. Oh boy. I don't think they I don't think he got the message of that movie

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I'm thinking he didn't really get the message of that move. I think he doesn't get a lot of messages

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That's fair probably because his Obama phone

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Making a voicemail joke that didn't play out. I need to get to a small time

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Get under someone's wig gotta get under somebody's way. So if you could comedy pieces, so at this point

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I think it's probably important for me to note that there's no such thing as an Obama phone

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Outside of what's taken on that name because of this meme

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Yeah, it's been created what's behind this because there is a little bit of reality

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There is something behind it and I'd like to generously call this a misunderstanding

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Is the idea that this these programs do exist that help people with low incomes have access to phones

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You see telephones are considered a utility and as such the government has what's known as quote a universal service requirement for them

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This was laid out in the Communications Act of 1934

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Which reasoned that access to wire and radio communications were an essential piece of living in the then modern society

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So all citizens should be offered access to it

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The programs that have sprung out of this mandate are all centered around the understanding that having a phone or access to a phone is

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Not some kind of luxury. It's pretty much a necessity in today's world

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So the connect America fund was established to promote connectivity to rural communities

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Then in 1984 the lifeline program was started by then President Reagan

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Which aimed to quote ensure that all Americans have the opportunity and security that phone service brings

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Including being able to connect to jobs family and emergency services

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There's an essential piece of reasoning here that right-wing folks

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Just love to ignore and that is that it ultimately cost society more to deprive people of access to phones than it would to

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Subsidize them and the only real argument against a program like this is rooted in cruelty and appeals that quote people like this

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Just don't deserve it. And also it was a Reagan program. They also love to ignore that

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Yeah

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Then in 1996 under President Clinton the program was redefined so that people who qualified for the benefit could choose to use it for

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A cell phone or a landline, but that's not anything crazy. That's just a modernization of the program to fit technological advancements

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Yep, the program doesn't give out free phones

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Though as the myth goes

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It's set up to cover monthly discounts on phone service

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The free phones that may or may not be given out are given at the discretion of the cell phone service provider

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That company may offer a free phone as an incentive to entice customers

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But that's not the government's doing the idea of giving out phones is entirely up to these companies

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Yeah, also the money for this program doesn't come from taxes as the myth goes

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Most people's phone bill includes a small fee that goes to the Universal Services Fund and this is where the money for the program comes

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from the USF is what was used to make sure that rural communities are able to call the fire department and

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Some of that money also goes now to make sure that just because you're poor that doesn't mean you can't also call the fire department

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Some hardcore conservatives may complain that they shouldn't have to pay a dollar

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in their bill for this and that the government shouldn't force them to and I have great news the government isn't forcing them to

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Their phone company is the FCC requires telecommunications companies to pay into the Universal Service Fund

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But it's up to the individual companies to decide whether they pass along those expenses to their customers

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So if you're paying a dollar a month into this fee this fund don't be mad at the recipients of access to phones

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Don't be mad at the government be mad at your phone provider for making you pay their fair share

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Regulations can't have them. Well, I mean, I don't want them. It's their choice if they want to charge you for it

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That's the company's choice. They have to pay

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For access to this market. That is a utility, right? It's just part of how the

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The system works. Well, there's an there while I was working with the hearing impaired

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There's an entire series of programs set up to get hearing impaired people phones that will friction for their

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Impairment universal service. They don't have to pay for those. Huh? It is all taken care of and

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You know, it's do you want the company to have to pay for that or do you want them to charge you for it?

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Yeah, I think that's probably the only real conversation here, right?

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Is that that fee that you get in your phone bill? Are you mad enough about it?

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Do you think that the I mean, I think the company should pay it, but I also don't mind that I'm charged it

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Yes, that's where I'm at. Well, I mean I would like the company to chip in on it

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It seems like it's their responsibility

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It seems like it would only be fair but since we live in the world that we do I also recognize the great

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help and

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Necessity of a program like that. So if you're charging me one or two bucks a month on my bill, right?

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I'd most people don't know that they are being charged for this and tell someone points it out

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Yeah, they're not mad about it until someone makes them mad about it

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Hey, why is it there a National Men's Day Dan and when the people get mad about it or the you know?

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People like Rush Limbaugh make people mad about it

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They're making them mad about it by talking about a fictionalized version of the program itself

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They're using propaganda to make you mad about something that's been going on since 1934

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Yeah, you didn't know about and didn't give a shit about it actually helps people probably saved a lot of lives, right?

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Well, I mean just when you bring up the being able to call the fire department

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Let's go back even further when we didn't even have subsidized fire departments, right?

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You had to pay directly if you wanted your house to be

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Not on fire and think about how much more money that cost everybody

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Well, there's just there's a hundred the the bullshit bad faith argument of like well if you want that kind of luxury

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You should have to pay for it. Well, if you don't have a phone period how are you going to pay for it?

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How are you going to get a job if they can't call you back? Right, you know, yeah

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It's it's a cycle that yeah, this is one attempt to disrupt the cycle of

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Of inability to to get to the point where you could afford. Yeah, exactly

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And I don't I don't see a real problem with that

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Nope

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If there are abuses within the system and stuff like that then that's upon greater regulation to sort out or greater oversight of the programs

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And that's something that people have sought to get for or like work on as long as the program's been in existence

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Of course and cell phones obviously created

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New challenges to the program and not all of it went entirely smoothly

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but

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That's not a result of Obama

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Or anything like that, huh? So the reason that I find it acceptable that people are calling the coverage

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Of the obama phone lady in this whole thing racist is that the coverage doesn't discuss the reality of the program

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Like we've been discussing. Yeah, it just seems like

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They don't care about the reality that they're trying to offend people with about this

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People like rush and Alex just accept the false reality that this woman is yelling about in the video

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Which they then use as a cudgel to attack and mock her with

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They aren't using the video as an opportunity to argue against the lifeline program

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In fact, I've not even seen the name of the program or the Universal Services Fund come up in any of the coverage

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I've seen that's really

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Surprising because it's not you think they would want to get to the bottom of it and explain that it actually wasn't Obama

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Personally giving her these phones or a program that Obama create. That's the that's the adherence that they want to give

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Oh, no, Obama handed her the fucking phone. Oh, I see now I thought they were

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Arguing from a place of good faith. No, people like Alex are using this video to send a fucked-up message

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And it's basically this is what we're up against. Yep. This is the true face of an Obama supporter

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Well at the same time relying on an overtly racist trope to flesh out their coverage

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They're basically attempting to launch a modern reboot of the welfare queen lie as you sussed out almost immediately

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as the Atlantic article about this points out quote the video wasn't on drudge because drudge is advocating getting rid of the

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Program it's racist because the point is to portray poor black people as stupid and lazy and dupes for Obama

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And that's what it comes down to that's what Alex needs to present on this show

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But he's presenting it within the context of and I'm having her here to help her

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Yeah, which is probably even worse. That's more racist. I think especially considering even the people pushing

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This racist meme had already given up. Yeah by this point

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Yeah, Alex is continuing it on well past its expiration very weird

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So Alex talks for a long time about being so excited that she's coming on so excited

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but then he gets down to I

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Guess talking about 1984. He remembers a quote from the book about

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the trolls

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being able to overthrow the the party right and

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I just like it whenever Alex brings up one of these books that he believes are real and our admissions of the yeah

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Yeah, and then he accidentally just completely misinterprets something in it

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So, let's see if you can pick out what's wrong here in this one. Here's from page 60

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Of 1984 written by George Orwell first the song there was hope it must lie with the pros. That's the common

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Working class because only there in those swarming

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disregarded masses

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85% of the population of Oceania, that's England in the US could be

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Forced to destroy the party ever be generated. Did you pick out what the major glaring problem there is?

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Well, it seems like that's a support for

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So bored

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Oceania is not the United States

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England it's also South America. It's also Australia. It's half of Africa

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Oceania is a incredibly large area in 1984

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The idea that he's presenting it as just the United States

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Well, it's the West Britain Oceania is the last that does isn't that what he does seem to be what he thinks

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It sure does seem like that the fact that he wholesale discounts. I don't know half of the rest of the world

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Yeah, it's also part of Todd

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It's like it when you have moments like that

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It's like I don't know I don't trust the rest of your assessment if that's if that's what you're taking away from this

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I mean, I would give him the benefit of the doubt there because I would that's well because I

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Mean, I mean his listeners would care about he wouldn't why would he mention right?

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You know those other well because outside of 1984 Oceania

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Relates to Australia and the surrounding areas. So like and even in the game a risk

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So that the word has a greater context than that in the United States and England and

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It just it just shows what he cares about

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Anyway, I was lying. He's not done talking about the Obama phone lady. Okay, it's most of what he talks about

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He hears what he has to say next which I think is reinforcing some of the ideas that I was bringing up

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In my introduction for this maybe ask her to print off questions for Obama phone lady

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So

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That when Michelle that's her first name so that when Michelle

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We have a title is in here in about an hour from now. We can also have some of your questions

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For Obama phone lady who we flown down to Austin, Texas

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To really have the archetypal Obama supporter here in studio. Oh, no. Oh, no. No, you can't put that one there

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Alex is now overtly made my argument for Wow. Yeah, he's presenting her as the archetype

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This is what they're all like what they're all like deep down. Mm-hmm. Oh boy

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So Alex said that she's gonna be on in an hour

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And he starts getting to some news and then she shows up and barges into the studio

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I love it and let me just show folks in the document cam. Hey

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Hey, hey guys, can you

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We got a camera mounted in there. Can we punch that up for viewers here? Come on over and say hi to folks

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No, no, just right there in that microphone

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Hello fans Obama phone lady here. How's that audio Genesis show today? You better open your phones in your head

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Hey, can you give a shout out to everybody?

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Now go ahead

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I'm gonna give a shout out to everybody here in Austin, Texas. I'm on Alex Jones show. I'm the Obama phone lady

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I represent now I'm Alex Jones here today. I love that guy. He's funny like me. Oh

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My goodness, you know, there's no doubt I'm not saying that you could do voiceovers immediately

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So, oh boy, I think Alex's wants to be her agent

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What is happening? I don't know. This is gonna be weird, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, but she doesn't come into studio immediately

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She just barges in and gives some shout outs and then she's hanging out like in the booth or something like that

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Alex's son is there and so like at a certain point Alex just yells at them like like not angrily yells

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But he's like I can't handle the distraction anymore. My son is in there with the Obama phone lady. You guys gotta get out of here

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All right

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weird

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Yeah, there's a very weird energy to open this part up

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Yeah, so but as as he has her in the other room and he's distracted by the fact that a celebrity this big is

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Gracing his studio with their presence

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he does get into some other news and he gets a caller who asks about Sandy Hook stuff and

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Alex responds in a way that blew my fucking mind

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In this next clip this caller asks about the parent Robbie Parker who was acting in a way that people have described as being

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Like an actor. Okay now mic down man. Listen to this

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Response that Alex gives him. Here we go

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But what I wanted to talk about was a dandy hook

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I'm somebody that believes that there's some fishiness there and I'd like to go through a couple things

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I'm not sure if you've seen all these things yet

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First have you seen the video where the little girl's father?

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Comes out like the first the first guy that came out to give an interview. Yeah, he's laughing and smiling

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And he says do I read off the card and then he turns the camera and then breaks in and then sits there and looks

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like he's forcing himself to cry and then

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It looks like

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Bad acting from the worst

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Soap opera you've ever seen but people act strange under incredible pressure

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So, you know, none of us know what he's going through. So my

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Uh prayers go out to him and his family

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But yeah, a lot of people are investigating the whole thing so he's suspicious did he forget what he said about

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Did he break character and remember that they're real people it's a clear indication that like he knows

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Yeah, he knows what's up. Yeah, what's going on?

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This still is internally consistent to a certain extent because the furthest he's gone is sort of endorsing

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this professor, Florida

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University professor who's advocating that everyone or they're all actors, right? So like the idea that he's

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He's he's saying that like I'm I don't know how someone would respond in a situation like this

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You know, I'm not going to I can't say, you know, he looks it looks weird

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But I can't say it still tracks with the idea even if he's advocating for what the professor is saying

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Because the professor is saying that some people were actors, right?

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You could say that this guy isn't or what but the thing that's terrifying is that Alex is keenly aware of

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The idea that you're in heavy stressful situations people respond in surprising ways

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Sometimes and that there's nothing suspicious about the idea that this guy may have nervously been laughing before he got on camera

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Like that's really scary because if you have that awareness the fact that he does later make it something suspicious

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Means that he knows yeah full well that he's lying. Well, he's got Obama phone lady in he's he's a little bit giddy

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He's acting like I considered that he's acting a little bit like hey, maybe I'm a real person

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I considered that as a possibility the idea that he'd need to temper his language because Obama phone lady is listening

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Yeah, and if he's like now fucking it was all yeah, I know good that sort of thing

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Maybe that would be like well now she's not gonna talk to me right or something like that

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I did think about that as a possibility, but I don't have enough evidence to back that up. It's just weird

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I think maybe he's just in a good mood could be yeah

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So this caller does not like that response and of course he keeps pushing right and then Alex gets even more overt

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On that side of like I don't the I'm not going down this road, which is even weirder

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Oh one thing that's weird about him is that his daughter by the end of the day?

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She had a Facebook page up. That was a tribute that was already looking looking for money

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It seems kind of odd that

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So quickly this

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Here's the deal. I appreciate your call, bro. Look. I don't know about that, and I'm not going to talk about parents of dead kids

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Okay

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one

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See, I don't know if that's true. That's something I haven't seen and so it's just I'm not gonna talk about somebody who lost his daughter

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What that changes what that editorial position changes?

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Very severely yeah

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Yeah, I think he's I think he's gonna flip his script on that one. Yeah, sure

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Yeah, when I heard that is like what the fuck it's so weird, and that's pretty much the entirety of the Sandy Hook information

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We're going to take away from this episode because Obama phone lady is gonna come in to studio, and they talk almost the entire

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Episode it's a very long interview really really boring

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We'll hit some high of course we'll hit some points in it, and I'll explain what happens, but a lot of it is just Alex

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Badgering her is this Alex in in full-on 30 year old suing his parents to stay in their house mode

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I was gonna try and try and slowly get to that point. Yes. Yes, okay

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This is Alex in Mike Rotondo

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I'm gonna give you three thousand dollars to come to my studio. Give you a pep talk

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Yeah, give you a job the whole thing. Yeah, it's a hundred percent that same. Yeah impulse that he has

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but this one

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Definitely has more of a racial team yeah tends to whereas Rotondo just had a

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millennial a men's rights yeah millennial feel yeah

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So this next clip Alex expresses how intimidated he is that the obama phone lady is in the building really weirded out by this whole

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thing

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And I gotta be honest. I mean I I'm getting goosebumps here and butterflies. What is happening put ma'am

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Can you please go to the green room? You're such a big star, and I'm not joking for whatever reason

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I'm having trouble continuing the broadcast here with you in there

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Um do you get that chocolate shake I got you

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She's awesome absolutely awesome

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She's right there, I see you this is incredible. She's she's already in command. She's all right. You can stay there. That's fine

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I just it's a man it is distracting. It's overt flattery. It's it's manipulative

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It's it's yeah, I think it's I think he's I think he's finally reliving his pretty woman

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Dreams or whatever it is don't I don't think so weird

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So he wants to play eye of the tiger whenever she comes in

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To because it's like they're having a boxing match. Yeah, and all that yeah, I got you well

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He's thinking about these ideas. He's playing eye of the tiger, and then he gets really defensive about liking it even though

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It's kind of cheesy the tiger

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Let's go ahead everybody you know you love that song even though. It's cheesy everybody knows when they're driving along they turn this up

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We're playing that off YouTube it's not doing it justice here it is crank it up

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What are we doing?

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The crazy Jackson

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All right, Billy in California you want to talk about Satan

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There's so much to love about that clip

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That is all perfectly first of all at the beginning of it. You can tell that he thinks that the chorus is coming

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Yeah, he's like. It's the eye of the tiger, and then no that's another verse

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So he goes through the verse and then he gets like defensively yeah, you know you love it cuz it's cheesy

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You hear it you roll the windows down you fucking love it, then the chorus does start coming. He's like here. It is crack

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He's like yeah, you know the obama phone lady you gotta give it to her you gotta give it to her

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She showed up

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She has the eye of the tiger did it you know panic down. You're on the air you want to talk about Satan

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Man if that was on at 2 a.m.. While you were driving and just just that clip you'd be like it is a good night

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Let's ride on it. So silly that that should be a college radio station all day

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It's so fucking silly the idea that he ends that with like you're home

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You're on the air, you want to talk about Satan. It's almost a parody. It's crazy. It is, that's what he is.

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So obama phone lady comes in they exchange some pleasantries

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And you know that's all good and well um but the first clip that I want to play of their

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Interaction is one where I believe that they both keenly are aware

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That there's more to this program than the idea that Obama is giving people phone right they're aware of it

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But they refuse to operate with that awareness if you understand both parties. Yes, okay?

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So she's kind of aware that it's a racist myth. Yeah

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Okay, I liked Obama um I had seen him um

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last year when and

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Some things have went on by me being a minority and didn't know no better

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Um I know he really didn't set the phones off once I spoke on that on YouTube

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I um they showed me that it was passed, but when Obama got an election

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It was it was Obama phones. That's how well they radically increased the funding right?

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Do you think he didn't put that that bill out for us to get the obama phone that was Clinton right? Yes?

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No, it was way

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It was Reagan

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But you want to present it as Clinton because you can talk about the idea that

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Cell phones were included in the plan on Clinton because you don't want to make the perception that this is a bipartisan thing

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Yeah, and it was started under your conservative God King right Ronald Reagan

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You want to make it look like it's only Democrats because the idea is that Democrats are giving you free things to keep you on the

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Plantation yeah, because they hate you and all this nonsense right when if you incorporate the greater reality of it that argument

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Completely falls apart, and you can't do this propaganda

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Pageant that she's here as a tool for Alex to use right and he I mean I'll be honest he ends up succeeding

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Yeah, well, it's pretty bad

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But for most of the time Alex is just trying to get her to hate Obama

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Okay, is just going on and on being like well. Don't you know that he uses drones?

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Okay, which I mean if I had Alex sitting down right now. I could be like hey

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You know Trump uses drones. You know all of the same arguments could be used

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For someone to throw in his face now. Yeah, so it just shitty foreign policy is also a bipartisan affair

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Yeah, it feels empty

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Yeah

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It just feels like him trying to get her to not like Obama so he can then brag about getting the Obama phone lady to

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Not like Obama, and it's annoying

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My point is Obama is a front man for some very dangerous criminal organizations have

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You heard of the New World Order a little bit. I heard you talk. Okay. These are people that want you dead

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There's a lot of that there's a lot of Alex just saying like a lot of his normal talking points on her being like

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Okay

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He's just also trying to be like the Democrats hate you because you're black and this clip is a good encapsulation

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of that especially because of how it ends and

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I want you to know right that I have Margaret Sanger and all the documents where they said about a hundred years ago

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They said we're gonna go in and take over the black community

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We're gonna hire their leaders, and we're going to get abortion legalized so we can kill these people

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The Democratic Party exists to put you six feet under

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Mmm, the Republicans are a bunch of gangsters to the Democrats a modern Democratic Party is designed to kill black people

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We'll be right back. Okay, all right stay with us ladies and gentlemen

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That went on a little bit longer than I thought yeah well Alex made the point he needed to make

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Republicans are bad, but Democrats want to kill all the blacks so get over with us because we're bad, but we're not

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Edward it's it. That's a real frustrating thing when you can throw to commercial

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And you can just have the last word no matter what and that might be a fucking insane thing

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Yeah, like the Democratic Party wants to kill you all right. It's time to go to break like no no

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No, you can't do that. No no no no no don't you got me. I got it

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No come on mm-hmm well, I guess you'll open with that when we come back to break right or come back from break

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No, no, we're not gonna talk more about lies about phone. Oh, okay great

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Have you and interestingly Michelle's phone keeps ringing?

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During the during the episode which Alex would never put up with from anybody else

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But he is completely fine putting up with it here because he needs this interview, but that's okay. He's the president

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He got that pool to do whatever you can do

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All right there hello

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I'm on the air. I can't talk to you guys my minutes are up my Obama phone

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Continue so but so he wouldn't allow he wouldn't allow that from anybody else

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That's an absurd thing

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But he he he needs to present as being fair and like hey

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We're having a great time me and Obama phone lady is great

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This is great while at the same time trying to attack her with all of his propaganda that he can

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in order for the outcome that he wants the outcome that he wants here is

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Presenting the idea that I have convinced her that Obama is bad right this person who blindly and stupidly

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Was out there screaming at a Romney rally that Obama was gonna give us phones and all this I

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Have managed to show her the light and the truth right in the same way that like Mike Rotando is this

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Embarrassing 30 year old who's suing his parents for kicking him out of the house

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And Alex wanted the end result of that to be like I have got him on his feet. I convinced him to shave

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Yeah

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I got him in this apartment because I am able to do that for you by using my

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Principles and applying them to you. It's such a valuable

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Yeah thing for him from the propaganda standpoint that he's willing to put up with her phone going off multiple times throughout the interview

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He's willing to pretend that she's the biggest celebrity ever to butter her up with flattery to make her not

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feel on guard about the idea that he's just

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Just bombarding her with these stupid ideas and like knowing that like, okay

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I'm gonna say that Margaret Sanger wants to kill all black people, right?

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And I know that you don't know anything about this and I know you're not going to look it up

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It's the same strategy that like manipulative fucks use when they go on Rogan's show

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Yeah, they know that the the maximum amount of research that anybody can do while on the program is a Google search

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and so if you have the appearance of something that'll come up on Google then your arguments gonna fly

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and that's what Alex ends up succeeding with because he ends up talking about how like

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Obama promised that there wouldn't be any new taxes. There would be no taxes and then there are taxes

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So he you like one of his interns or whatever Google's those things shows it to her and then she's like wow Obama did lie

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Yeah, and because he's been beating her down throughout this entire episode

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Once that reveal is made. She's like wow Obama. I'm not gonna vote for him next time

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Oh, no, but also he gets it but also she can't cuz that would be his third term

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And that's not even a possibility. I

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Mean, I would also say that her phone going off during this interview is a win for him

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Just because she keeps saying Obama phone. She has to keep bringing up the very thing that he wants everybody to associate her with

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Yes and associate with

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You know, it does help. Yeah, it does help but that's also why he's not behaving like the way we know

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Right normally does for sure. So I feel bad that I've sort of revealed

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some of the end of where it gets to but some of that is important because

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To know even in the middle is in the middle

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Where we're at now

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She's not responding super well to Alex's

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Like his bombardment with like this is like the Democrats want to kill blacks, right?

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Because it's very aggressive and he hasn't shown that you know, ostensible proof of lying yet. So she's kind of like

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Alright we're getting a lot of mm-hmm and Alex is interpreting that as like that

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She's very somber and weird on air, but it really just seems like he's being a dick to her and she's trying to be polite

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Come right back with the one the only the Obama phone lady is very very somber in here

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We've got a lot of video her behind the scenes. She's a crackerjack. We'll be right back. I

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Just think that there's like there's a real strong feeling that she's protecting herself from someone who's being rude to her

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Yeah, and in this next clip

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I think we can really see this fully because when they come back Alex wants to ask her about guns and her feelings about guns

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Oh, no, and and later he indicates that they talked about it last night when she had flown into town

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He knows that she is against guns

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Yeah

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So she knows that he knows her position already and she knows that he's probably gonna yell at her if she answers the question

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And you can see how that plays out

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Where do you stand on the right to keep and bear arms? You're not Ella Perry Mason up on the courtroom

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We're not we just want to know where you know, where you come from

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Where do you stand on the Second Amendment? Where do you stand on the right down guns?

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I'm against that. There you go. So so you you want the government to have guns, but not the people

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No guns at all. Have faith in God

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Well, God has faith in those that have faith in themselves. See, I'm not into the guns, you know and

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To me is a lot of nonsense with that. I'm not into guns with the government having them cool

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So but you could you like you could tell that she had like last night when they talked about it

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He probably got really animated talking about guns that she has a feeling that like this isn't gonna go well

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I don't want to answer your question. Yeah, because

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What it could end up with and that's why she's quote-unquote somber is because I think that whether it's on a

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Like a conscious level or subconscious level

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She has a sense that he's going to yell at her or there's going to be she doesn't go the right path

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That things are gonna go bad, right? Well, I mean when you hear her

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receiving these questions you can hear the the

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thoughts in her head just go

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What possible good outcome could there be? Why is he asking us? Yeah, why why does it matter what I think about guns?

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Yeah, he's not I was in a fucking for my for my opinion exactly

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He's asking me this so I can say thing and then he gets to yell at me about this, right?

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Right. I should either be you again

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I can either be used as an example of somebody who doesn't know what I'm talking about or a joke or something

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Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just think you could tell there. Yeah, there's the there's a feeling of trouble

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There's no win for her in that question. Nope. So this is my for any of these questions. No, no

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Yeah, this is my favorite clip of the entire thing and it's when Alex is talking even better than Eye of the Tiger

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Yeah, Alex is talking to her and she discusses getting state IDs for people so they could be able to vote

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Alex thinks that he has

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Accidentally stumbled upon proof of voter aliens. Yeah being allowed to vote and

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I'm going to pause it after the part that because I think you might miss it or some of the listeners might miss it

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But it's so funny to me how this ends up playing out. I think that this is absurd

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And and it's unbecoming. I had plenty people telling me. Yeah, I'm gonna vote for Obama, but I don't even got a state ID

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I had to show people how in Cleveland you can get your birth certificate and stuff free to get a

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State ID so you can vote. Did you see any illegals vote?

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illegal

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People that aren't citizens. Yeah, I even got them to vote. Oh, no, hold on. We don't want to know you seriously

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I was just joking I did people that wasn't in oh, no

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Some people foreign people that had a paper stating that they were here. They they turned over from there. They call them Arabs

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Arabs

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In Cleveland, we call them air Arabs and the Arabs on the store

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They've been here two years or whatever, but they don't have a state driver's license or state

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You're saying in Ohio they let people vote from other countries. No, they had to get a state ID

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no, I understand but but but but the

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Getting the ID allowed them to vote right because they've been here one dude told me been here three four years and he

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And he never voted cuz he foreign or not from here and I said you how long you been here

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He said two years and I said you're sure they weren't citizens

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No, they weren't citizens. Not if you ain't from America. They had IDs from why me W

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Why oh, yeah, my NG Wyoming or Yemen

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You catch that I think you're laughing so you caught that they have an ID from Wyoming

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And

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She's fucking with him, I don't think she is you don't think so

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I think that because of her feelings about Middle Easterners

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She thinks she thinks that Arabian people from Wyoming are for our foreigners

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Okay, I think that that like the other ness of Middle Easterners to her is informing that she thinks that

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Wyoming is some sort of foreign land. Yeah, or whatever

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And what is really you can't vote in Ohio, even if you're Ohio resident with a Wyoming ID, right?

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So you would need to update your ID in order to register to vote

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That's what she's describing the process that she was involved in as but because Alex is so fucking suspicious Jesus

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He should have heard that and been like Wyoming. Oh, I see. This is just an out-of-state ID situation. Yeah

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But he doesn't suss that out. He's decided that it's Yemen and then that goes on even longer

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I am liking her she's getting out the vote. She's helping people get IDs. This lady is kicking ass

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Yeah, but now Alex is reinterpreting all that as a negative, right? Of course something like that

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I knew they wouldn't cuz they talk like we talked but they're not from you. All right, Michelle. I just want to be clear

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I like you. I think you're a good person and I

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I wanted to make sure earlier just to be clear

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You didn't know that that people that are foreigners aren't allowed to vote right? You didn't know that

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But when they've been here in America so long they could go get a state ID and vote

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I know so so they told you that was okay at the Democratic Party

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They said I'll go get him a driver's license

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They've been here for so amount of ups town because I had to check back with the office and see how they can vote

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If they are legal, they illegal American now, they've been here so long. So they were citizens

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They were citizen, but they didn't know that they were citizen

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Well, I guess they did know because they still have foreign identification, but they've been here a long time

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And then you would help them go get a driver's license that that allowed him to vote right state ID

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Hey, they were able to vote. They've been here for up some years. He said he owned the store like four years

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He never voted and I said, well why he said never even apply for state ID

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Have you heard about the problem of illegal aliens voting?

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So Alex is trying to make the conversation about that, but it's clearly not

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Yeah, and so even like a couple minutes after this Alex is even like I guess they are citizens

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But it doesn't stop this from being repeated in right-wing circles as

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Some sort of an admission that Michelle Dowry has made that she was involved in helping get illegal

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Immigrants voting abilities through getting them state IDs. Oh my god. This is what that is built on and she was doing everything, right?

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She's doing everything. She's even calling the office going back

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I mean, I would say that her prejudice is a little bit glaring. You get one thing wrong. Okay

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Is there's there's pretty talk just like this? They're not from here. They talk like we talk, but they're not from here.

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Hold on. You know what? Okay, that's bad. That's bad. We call them Arab. That's bad. That's not that's bad

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It's not what I'd like to hear. But it doesn't seem like she's discriminating in a

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malicious way more of just an ignorant way. It does feel like I don't know what the line is

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If you're discriminating maliciously you're not then gonna go like cool. That's great

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Let's go to the state ID office and let me help you out here. Most likely. She's got a heart

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She's her hearts in the right place. It's possible. I don't know enough to say but yeah, it it's not as bad as Alex

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No, it's not as bad as Alex. So at this point they start taking

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They start taking calls from listeners who want to talk to Obama phone lady, right?

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I bet they have some really stunning insights to bring to the table

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Well, one of them wants to prove to you that Obama is the devil. Okay

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Yeah, Michelle, you you seem like you're a believing woman, you know, you realize we're in the latter days

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I'm sure you do from all the signs and things like that, right? Right. Well, why don't you look up?

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Obama and

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November 5th, Illinois State Lottery winning or if God was going to give us an indication that this man is on the wrong side

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Of this battle before for our souls and look up

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November 5th, Illinois Lottery the number that came up for the pick three three

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And this is not a I check this out myself on one of those, you know, check the numbers

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You know type of thing right came up six six six

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No, I remember and then some others came up six six six, right? I remember that too. Okay, so God speaking through the lottery

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Okay, now if it wasn't obvious I

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I made myself a piece of toast and it had Obama's face with horns on it, right?

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Duh, I mean how we know if God was going to speak to you it would be through toast

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It would also be through the lottery

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God does work in mysterious ways guys. He has fallen a long way off from burning bush territory

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I understand that you want to present the idea that these are the end times and Obama's evil

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But you have to understand that your framework has to be better than God speaks through lottery numbers

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Just if you break it down you look crazy

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Crazy. Yes, your caller looks crazy and you're being like, yeah, you know what I saw it was in other lotteries, too

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Alex is making it worse man. Now if it was every lottery on that day gave the 666 now

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We're in territory where I'm thinking coincidence makes a little it's a little harder. Yeah explain away

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Every thing that involves three numbers like everybody who gets gas

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The pump change stops at six six dollars and sixty six cents. Yeah

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So now we get another caller who I only keep this in because it really sounds like he's reading a script

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All right, let's go to Mike in Tennessee. You're on the air listing on

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1600 WM QM go ahead, sir. Good afternoon Alex and Michelle

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First I just real quick. I want to say if Michelle if you haven't seen the Obama deception documentary

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I highly recommend that Alex gets you a copy of that as well as all his other documentaries a

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Description to his magazine as well as access for Wars TV that she can be really computer anywhere including the public libraries

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You know, she can ask that from the public libraries due to the Universal Service Fund

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But who cares Wow, yeah

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Like a plant. Yeah a lot of consecutive plugs there

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Yeah, I mean it feels that way

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But it also you know, I I accept the possibility that it's just someone who gathered their thoughts really well

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Before getting on air. Yeah, I mean there's that but even then

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Anything come on all of that. You're gonna plug info wars dot TV. It's a little suspicious

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That's that's troublesome

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um

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So all the callers that are calling in are essentially along these lines either lunatics who think that God speaks through the lottery right shills

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Or people who are like hey Michelle, you know, you gotta you gotta hate this Obama guy

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Yeah, except for this one call this call makes a pretty good point

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a

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Key in New York here on the air. Go ahead

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Hey, how you doing Michelle? Hey, how are you?

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What's the going on Alex worldwide broadcast my friend? What's on your mind?

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Yo, you know something Michelle the only reason why you there is to be clowned

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That's the only reason why you there before you got there. They played that sound bite of yours

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Over and over and over again to clown you and they and the reason why he's trying to get you to say things because he

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Needs audio so that he can play that back and clown you again when you leave

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Now hold on just a second key

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Ain't nobody gonna know but hold on when we called her and when she got off the plane

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I said, I think it's funny and you know, we did make jokes about it because it's funny, but it's also sad

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and I said that at the time we aired it if you go back to the first times we aired it and I said I

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Thought she was an interesting lady and was talented and funny and and and and I've said I bet that lady's a character

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So we've got her here and you know, I clown around some too

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so it's so all I'm saying is don't misrepresent what I actually stand for and for and

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What I believe in I mean it is

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Horrible that they're trying to domesticate us and I'm here

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Actually trying to reach out to her to try to explain to her why we need a second amendment and things like that

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Okay, and and obviously I said I want that lady on the show months ago

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And then I made kind of a joke about it saying okay a bounty to get her on if somebody can find her and we

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Got her on. Is this not interesting radio, sir? I think he was right on every point. Uh-huh. I think he got it

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Oh, so that key guy is a hundred percent, right?

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Yeah, Alex is having her on to clown her and and it is an interesting radio

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I think it's the audio so he can clown her later. Yeah, that's absolutely the case. Now Alex is saying look

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Don't misrepresent what I stand for even back when this video came out. I said that she seems like a character

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It's funny. She seems funny. I bet she'd be really interesting to talk to. Hey Alex

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Let's listen to how you covered that video when it first came out. Oh no receipts

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Here are some of the clips of Alex talking about this after it was posted on Drudge

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Here is Alex saying that she's just pathetic

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They want to hurt you

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Margaret Sanger was a Nazi that she is the Nazis

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Were inspired by her so she's not a Nazi. She's the Nazis mama

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You still want an Obama phone? Yeah you do and it's identity politics

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It's identity politics. Here is Obama phone. One more time. Obama. You got Obama phone? Yes, everybody in Cleveland. Low minority got Obama phone. Keep Obama in president, you know. He gave us a phone. He gonna do more. How did he give you a phone?

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You on full steps, you on social security. Yeah, you get a microwave system to give you cancer and track you. What's wrong with Rami again? Rami, he sucks. Hey, Rami.

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That's enough. You got Obama phone? Yes. That woman is so pathetic and she's worried all her goodies are gonna be taken away

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So that doesn't seem like how he's presenting how he covered it. No, it doesn't it seems it seems very

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Very mean-spirited. Yeah, and in this next video or the next clip Alex riffs for a while about how she sounds like an evil version of Elmo

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Elmo, Elmo gone bad. I'm in president, you know. Literally, guys can we pull up Elmo real quick?

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Just a short clip of of Elmo because I don't mean to be mean but I'm sorry this woman sounds like a demonic Elmo

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Everybody get old by my phone. I can't even do it and I've got the guys finding and we're compiling a bunch of people

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A bunch of different ones that you're not hearing anywhere on talk radio because I remembered and we're finding some of them

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Listeners are sending them to us. There's dozens of these things with people going. Oh, thank you. Mr. President

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I'm gonna get a free car and a free house in Florida women going mr. President. I want a free house. He's like, all right

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I'll get it for you. Don't worry. Absolutely. Oh, you're gonna fight their baby gags point of order. He never produced any of those videos

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Oh, he didn't know did Obama say years ago. I don't do a very good Obama. I knew Bill Clinton

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I did not have sex with that woman Monica Lewinsky

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We do have Elmo that was listen to her carefully because

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Go ahead Petunia. Yeah. No, okay

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It's not really Elmo

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That woman sounds like the grouch. I don't know. It sounds like some muffin. I let my kids watch all three straight a few times

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Wait, what?

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You know, I'm sorry

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I just love that woman's voice. I guarantee you we need to find her as a talent search. I could give her comedy lines

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She would be the biggest sensation in the country

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Who's that?

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Oscar the ground like Oscar the ground meets Cookie Monster

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I don't know. I'm done turn it off. Oh

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Man, I can't handle it anymore, you know people who like to feel good and superior looking at this pathetic woman

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This is being done to every racial group. She's just further down the rat hole

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That's not great. I would say that that presentation is pretty fucking offensive

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Yeah, I just have a question. Why did he say he let his kids watch Sesame Street?

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That's globalist programming a couple times. He let his that's a weird thing to say. It's pretty weird

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That's a weird way of putting it it my I imagine he's just I don't even know what he's trying to get across

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but that coverage of her is gross

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Yeah

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I thought I had more to say, but I don't

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It really just doesn't match up at all with what he's trying to present. He's laughing at her and oh

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He's describing her as a literal clown. Yeah, he is calling her a muppet

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And he's saying that if he feeds her comedy line, which is slightly her clownishness

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Will come through and that idea of if I write the comedy line

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She could be funny is very different than how he's presenting it while she's around in this

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January 2013 when he's saying she is so funny

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She if she just went to some small-time comedy clubs, she could be funny. No, she needs Alex writing for her

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He's the brains of the operation

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Yep, she is a clown to him and his next clip Alex talks about oh, these are all from what is this September 29th 2012?

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When this video broke here is him talking about how you can laugh, but this woman is sad. I

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Got an Obama phone. Wow, we're really going sad

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You can laugh at one level at this lady, but it's sad

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It's sad

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So his version of it is almost like I don't like it's not even good to laugh at this because it's beyond

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Yeah, this deserves reproach

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That sort of thing

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So here's a clip from Alex on the nightly news the info is nightly news from October 9th

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2012 where he calls the Obama phone a national nightmare and again some people like to laugh at that lady

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It's very very sad that

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Their hopes and dreams are to elect someone who will take from others to give to them

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That is the opposite of the American dream. That's the American nightmare

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So I just think that this caller while he doesn't have all these clips at his disposal necessarily

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I think he's making a pretty fair point and Alex is very defensive about it because this is exactly what he's doing. Oh, yeah

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Also, it should be pointed out that on September 28th 2012

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Paul Joseph Watson wrote an article about the Obama phone lady posted on in forest comm that begins quote a video clip posted by the

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Judge report has since gone viral which shows an Obama supporter semi incoherently blathering about how she's voting for Obama

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Oh dick, because the government gave her a free phone

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Tragically underscores how the state exploits dependency by offering poor people trinkets while simultaneously stealing their entire economic future

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that article goes on to say quote once you've recovered from the hilarity of the video clip the awful truth begins to sink in and

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He later describes her speech as quote shrieking and condemns quote the delusion that these people are living under knows no bounds

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bizarrely

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Paul Joseph Watson ends that article on a weirdly racial tinge. Oh a weirdly racial kind of because it might be unintentional

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Okay, quote while their entire economic future has been sold down the river. These people have allowed their votes to be bought by a free phone

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which of course being sold down the river is a

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Reference to the slave trade down for like Mississippi these people, right? Yeah

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It I don't know if that's intentional but it's very weird that that's the end of the I don't know

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it could be nothing I mean there are a lot of there are a lot of regional and

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Different idioms that probably that trace their lineage back to slavery be in some way

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So then on December 11th 2012 Paul Joseph Watson wrote another article on in fours that said quote

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The video is cited by critics of big government as a reflection of the typical Obama supporter

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Someone lazily dependent on government handouts whose vote could easily be bought with free stuff

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Lazily depend first off. She is very coherent in that video. Mm-hmm. You understand what she is saying every step of the way

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Yeah, and it's made crystal clear what she's saying

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and also

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Even even in that video. She's not being lazy like she she has to go out protesting at a Romney right exactly

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What are you guys doing? Right? So I mean look if you look at this, there's just nothing that's real about what Alex is presenting

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About his what he how he's covered the story in the past what his intentions are in the present because on January 15th

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2013 Alex posted an article on infowars about how he woke up the Obama phone lady

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Yeah, because she came around to be like, oh Obama did lie about this

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So it's enough of a propaganda win that he's able to pretend that he succeeded here

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But ultimately it doesn't matter because the only people who cared about this story cared about it to push Romney

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That's the only reason that it made it on drudge

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They were using these welfare Queen racist archetypes and stuff like that

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But the purpose of it was behind it was Romney then why did Paul? Why did PJ dubs write that article?

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Because we're Alex, okay

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Alex is directing him to write articles about the Obama vote lady a past December. He must be Alex the only explanation

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Otherwise, why is he focused on it? Because infowars doesn't operate in the entirely same world

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That's the um, this this funnel does right, right? They go across purposes a little bit and sometimes have

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Their own druthers that they follow. Yeah. Yeah, and this is just one of their their druthers

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Recycled viral content. Yes. Yeah. Yeah

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So we have one last clip here and it's just one of the weirder things that

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Michelle says in this interview towards the end. They're talking about how the police are out of line

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Which is a fair point. Yeah, but her example of why the police are out of line is

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Really weird. See if you can catch what she's saying here where I live at and where I was at the police is running

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And I've seen it with my own eyes and I'm glad you brought a lot

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To my attention about that because I've just moved from Cleveland Heights to Cleveland, Cleveland

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You could walk outside, but Nicky you go to Cleveland Heights

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They're gonna rush you say you'd rape somebody cuz you're butt-necky the police is running it all

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Police is running it all

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I'm confused

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Apparently in Cleveland you can walk around naked in Cleveland Heights. You cannot right

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Police state

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I mean, I mean, I think I think her metaphor is is still apt. I actually I actually think that makes a lot of sense

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Cleveland Heights being a place that the cops are

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Constantly discriminating against black people in Cleveland being a place where they're not I think I think you could probably make an argument that what?

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She's saying or what's behind what she's saying is that they're over policed in Cleveland Heights

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And the idea like you could walk outside and no one would notice that you're naked in Cleveland possibly, right?

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Whereas in Cleveland Heights, there's such a police presence that you can't get away with it, but it sounds funny

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It sounds funny, but there is probably

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I think she's absolutely right in what she's describing but she did put it in an interesting fact

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Well if she's trying to argue about the over policing that yes

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If she's trying to complain about not being able to walk around naked then no, yeah

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Well, yeah, because in Cleveland if a cop saw you walking around naked, they'd still have some questions. Yeah

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so I mean beyond any like

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Fine points that are behind the nudity in Cleveland argument. Is that an epidemic?

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No, I don't know you kind of get the the sense like that's kind of as good as this interview could ever be

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Yeah, really, you know, yeah it and Alex on some level knows that what he's walking into is

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either going to be him getting her to see his side of things and then he wins or

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Or she says stuff like you can't walk around naked in Cleveland Heights, right?

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And then people like oh look at this typical Obama supporter as Alex has already presented it, right?

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You you see that he has set himself up in such a situation that he wins kind of no matter what although

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It's a pyrrhic victory since no one really cares

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Yeah

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And you don't even like I don't think most people who listen to our show or you or almost anybody

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Remember, yes now because the Obama phone lady video was specifically used for the Romney can write now

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Not by the Romney campaign, of course not but it was by the media arm supporting the Romney campaign

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It is they're completely different entities. I think I think Romney knew better than to officially associate

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Yes, that would have been very racist

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Now he was almost 100% correct. He he left it at

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A they're just there to clown on you, which would be reusing the walk around butt naked clip, right?

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But he forgot to add also they're using you as a propaganda tool

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Hopefully to convince everybody that look even the prototypical or the the archetypal a

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Obama voter once they see the light will will

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Abandon him right and join the Republican Party. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a it's I guess a win for Alex

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But it doesn't mean anything. Nope. I

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Think it's a win for us

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I was a little disappointed because I you know

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I'd spent a lot of time with the our Monday episode and then the Wednesday episode getting into the space liar

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Channeling stuff and I forgot not need to speak in different voices

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And I'd forgotten that the next episode was the

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Obama, so when I sat down to get ready to like, you know work on the episode

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I turned it on and Alex is like the Obama

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This is going to take the entire episode

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Yeah, like it's like there's there's nothing really for us to learn now and on on that level

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I'm actually kind of happy because ultimately we do learn that

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what Alex is up to yeah, and you can see you can see his is what he likes to do how he operates and that

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Sort of thing but learning about the world

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Is not is not happening. Mm-hmm

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Especially it's it's not even happening in the context of

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the time period where it's supposed to like what what what other conclusion is there to draw then

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Alex is trying to create a

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Racist

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Caricature that he can exploit well and then like I mean think about the the the welfare queen parallels and things like that like

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Obviously the image of the welfare queen is used to try and push through

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Unpopular legislation or it's used in that way to create a boogeyman and that sort of thing

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But it's also used to deflect from sort of ideas of cruelty on the right

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Like these ideas of like trying to help these

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welfare queens not live in the state that they're living in right that sort of thing the idea of

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Using that myth

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To make yourself look like not the monster that you are

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Right, right, right. It really is very parallel to what Alex is doing

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Oh, he's using her in this way in order to humanize himself

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It's like I'm willing to reach out to this this person who's such a fucking

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Typical Obama supporter a manifestation of everything. I hate aren't I magnanimous. Yeah

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And that even in itself is propaganda. It's I don't know

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That's a bummer and I'm glad to be past it cuz I don't want to I don't want to fucking

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I don't want to think about this. I know he doesn't hire her. I

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Don't think she shows back up on the show ever again

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I think this is probably the end of it. So anyway, we'll be back next week

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But until then we have a website we do

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It's knowledgefight.com. Correct. We're also on Twitter at knowledge underscore fire and go to bed Jordan also on Facebook

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Mm-hmm. You could go to iTunes or

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any number of

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Podcast applications. There's so many of them and

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Luminity took us down. Hey, fuck those guys

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But I mean good on him for responding within a couple days to an email. I thought they would just ignore it

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Yeah, I've had I've had situations like that before where people are like fuck you. I don't give a shit. So I appreciate it

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Yeah, and also

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What else is the Obama phone lady hasn't killed anybody? She definitely hasn't killed anybody

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I just helped a lot of people vote

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We would have heard about it if she killed probably the right wing would have really made that a big deal. Absolutely

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But one person who technically probably has killed somebody

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Is someone who tried to make a clown out of the Obama lady Obama phone lady and that's Alex Jones

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Oh Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you