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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fad
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. I said that almost like I'm taunting somebody. I know that was a weird opening for you
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Ah, sorry about that. That did not have your usual sonorous tones to it. No, no, I don't know what it was
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We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan. Hi, Jordan. Dan!
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Yep.
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I got nothing for you right now. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, you're you're I when was the last time you opened the show with the weird tone of voice?
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Today. Boo. Boo on your interview skills. I know I
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I was usually I come up with a question right off the top of my head. Yeah, they're usually not great
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I usually have to dig out dig out of a ditch with your bland ass question
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Well now I've just raised the difficulty level. Dig out of this ditch. I have to come up with a question to ask myself. Dig out of this ditch, huh?
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Oh boy. I'm just testing you. I refuse to. I refuse to. I have a hostile partner in this and I will not
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I will not bend to the winds of a terrorist interviewer. Oh that now that's not fair. I'm no Somali pirate. That's true.
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So Jordan today, we have an interesting show ahead of us
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I am excited to get into what we're gonna get into. We're doing a time travel episode today at the behest of policy wonk Joshua
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I'm very excited to get into the topic at hand, which we will explain momentarily
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But before we do oh, we gotta say thank you to a couple people who have joined up and are supporting the show
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So first of all, I'd like to say thank you to Sam. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk
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Thank You Sam. Thanks Sam. Did I explain this podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones and you just know what I tell you?
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I don't think we did that. Did we not do that part? I'm not sure. That's my interview question
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Anyway, if we didn't
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My answer to most questions is I don't remember what we were talking about five minutes ago. Anyway, thank you, Sam
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What we very much appreciate that and in honor of your generosity
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Your support of the show you are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk
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Jar-jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty, baby
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I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much miles
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Thank you very much miles
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Too much and I don't want look this show isn't gonna turn into Delilah or something like that and us doing song
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You know
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Requests for people out there on your long drive. Okay. It sure sounds like we're about to do a Delilah episode
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I cannot resist whenever are you coasting tonight when I get a nice message from somebody?
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I'm
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Prone to help them out in any way I can and I got a very nice message from grace
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And she wanted us to know that there's a policy wonk out there by the name of Bruce who's having a birthday
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And we wanted to take a little bit of a moment to say happy birthday out there Bruce. Happy birthday, Bruce
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We appreciate you listening in your support and that you know, I hear I hear you got a podcast about UFOs
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That's pretty that's pretty fun. That sounds cool. I don't know we could talk about the Dulce base
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You want to send me a message? We talk about the Dulce base, you know about Dulce?
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I swear to God it is the boring underwater base. No, it's not underwater. It's the Dulce base
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Oh, yeah, that's where your mind goes with it. No, it's not that how it is
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The Dulce base is in New Mexico underground. There's 17 floors underground
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There's aliens experimenting with humans and Bruce knows about that because he's into UFOs. I will accept that it could be a
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Less
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reflective
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Third letter of the alphabet base. Oh, I see what you're saying there. It's been polished too much. It's burnished. It's burnished
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Yes, perhaps. Anyway, Bruce. Happy birthday. Yes. Happy birthday, Bruce. God bless you
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And hope all is well. Anyway, Jordan today. We are getting into this time travel episode on the
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Request. Well, I wouldn't say demand. He was very nice about it of policy wonk Joshua now today
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We're going back to September 25th 2011
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It's always a fun game to try and figure out if you have any idea
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What a date might be that someone would send me back to okay, so this is 9 25 11, right? That's correct
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All right. So this is right after 9 11. Well, 9 11 11 the 10-year anniversary. It's okay. All right, so
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Never forget two weeks after the towers fell
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two years two weeks
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Ten years
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No, I have no idea what was going on at September 25th is about occupy Wall Street, oh
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Okay, cool. I bet he has really awesome progressive positive things to say about occupy Wall Street now before we get into this
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I want to say that I
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This was coming in. I had no I have no idea what to expect
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Uh-huh
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according to their own website occupy Wall Street was quote a people-powered movement inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia and
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Aims to fight back against the richest 1% of the world that are writing the rules of an unfair global economy
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That is foreclosing on our future based solely on that
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Alex Jones should be against them since he thinks that the uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia were globalist false flag uprisings
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So that should be a red flag that this is just another one on the other hand while occupy
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Wall Street was not targeted at the Federal Reserve
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It definitely had the appearance of being a community of people who could be red-pilled by the info warriors and become them themselves
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So maybe Alex would be in favor of it since it could serve as a pipeline to him gaining a wider audience on
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The other hand the beginnings of occupy Wall Street grew out of the publication ad busters
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Which is definitely anti consumerist and pretty certainly anti capitalist. So that seems like Alex would be very against them
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This is so infuriating when you know the answer of what is going to happen in this episode on the other hand
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This is so infuriating. You have the optics of people standing against the police
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Uh-huh
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It seems impossible for Alex not to be on the side of the people so it feels like you would have to either be on
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Board with occupy Wall Street against his principles or completely ignore it so he doesn't have to side with the police
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Are we doing vicinity? Are we doing the the Princess Bride? Is this iocane powder going on right here on the other hand?
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They were literally protesting bank malfeasance and that's one of the main pieces of Alex's like primary brand
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So it seems like he might try and side with them
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But at the same time ignore the parts of what the protests stood for that are diametrically opposed to his worldview
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You truly have a gift for rhymes on the other hand
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The stuff the protests stood for that are opposed to his worldview. That's really important stuff
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Redistribution of income forgiveness of student debt putting restrictions or limitations on bank profits putting restrictions on excessive executive
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Compensations all of these things are not things Alex's into at all
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And in fact, he believes that some of them are the evil goals of the globalist and plus Michael Moore was involved
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So how could Alex possibly be on board?
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What I'm getting at but
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What I'm getting at okay is that
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When policy wonk Joshua proposed that we do this episode about what Alex Jones thought about Occupy Wall Street
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I had literally no idea what I was gonna find the ball could fall in any slot on this really roulette wheel
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Mm-hmm in choosing the specific date to go back to I decided to choose September 25th 2011
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I chose this date because though Occupy Wall Street began on September 17th
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I felt it was probably likely that Alex would be slow to hear about it or talk about it because that seems to be his
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Trend except when it comes to Somali pirates as right apparently Somali pirates very quick on the up right on right on the ball
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However on September 24th
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At least 80 protesters were arrested and videos came out of police roughing up protesters who were peaceful
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Corralling them with a large net and a video of officer Anthony Bologna macing young female protesters
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I felt if there was any day that was going to be the day that Alex would talk about Occupy Wall Street as a positive
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Or as a negative. This was gonna be the day that he was triggered and so we jump in on
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The 25th of September where to God if this is about Somali pirates again, I'm gonna lose my shit it it's not
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I don't actually know like you you're pretending that I know a lot even though I know what the clips are gonna be and all
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That I don't really know that much. We don't know where he actually lands
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It's it's I mean we'll get to it, but it's hard to say exactly is he conflicted
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I'm gonna tell you ahead of time like this is probably going to be one of these like
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preludes of things to come I think that Occupy Wall Street the entire span of it is where I'm going after
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2009 yeah after I get like
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My fill of Alex's I got you like the tea party stuff
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Yeah, that comes into a better picture too for me once I get a handle on the Soros stuff all that stuff in 2009
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I believe that looking at the entirety of the Occupy Wall Street
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And Alex's positions on it. I think it'll be I think that would be a fitting next investigation
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Yeah, and the the glimpse that we get here. I don't think is complete at all
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Uh-huh so that just just know I know what's coming in the clips
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But I don't I don't know big picture. What's going on all right?
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Well that means what's coming in the clips is gonna be whack a new shit well
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Somewhat so he starts the show oh, this is a Sunday show too, so it's like it's only a two-hour show
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Uh-huh, but I also I thought that that would be better cuz I saw launch right so then he had more
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Distribution through NS communications on Sunday, then the Genesis communications had at their disposal, so
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It seemed very possible that the Sunday episode would be more meat
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Yeah, so we jump in and we start with Alex. Just kind of bragging
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We attempt in some cases with great success to alert free humanity to the dangers of
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Historical tyranny cool. I you know the only thing that I get whenever I hear that kind of beginning when he's like number one on
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global shortwave and stuff like that do you remember when
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The three six mafia won a Academy Award no
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They want what for hustle and flow soundtrack they want
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And so their next song was dope boy fresh a state dope boy dope the dope boy fresh
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Yes, that's I don't remember that song and based on the way you sung it. I am very glad. Oh god
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It's so good. It doesn't sound like our guest star and chameleon air
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Man, how long is chameleon air been around if you'd invested better? He'd be chameleon keep billionaire
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And I might know yeah the that video for it is awesome. It's just a being John Malkovich rip
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They just being John Malkovich, but like being three six mafia
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Okay, so there's like people going into the little nook that takes right right, and they're just like doing a music video
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But it keeps flashing. It's Michelle Gondry director. I don't remember who did but it was one of those guys
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Yeah, it's a it's a really good music video
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But the reason I bring it up is the song starts with three six mafia
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Academy Award winners like they were hyping up that they won the Academy Award. Yeah, yeah
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Yeah, what the next you're really not selling me on this song or this album
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The reason I'm bring or three six mafia at all the reason I'm bringing this up is because the next single they had after that
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It starts with three six mafia number one ringtone
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It's a little bit of a scale of the brag, but their songs in that era
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Consistently open with them bragging about something
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Short wave I'm like that's just three six mafia shit
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So yeah, all right all right hmm so give me schoolboy cue any day
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I don't need any of this chameleon air bullshit, so um I thought that was funny
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But it's just kind of like standard stuff. It doesn't tell us anything about what's going on quick question so
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Chameleon air is that a pun on chameleon. Yes, it is yes, okay, and millionaire
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I got that I got that part
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I was I just wasn't sure was he lower like was his name?
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Like cam or something like that. You know like no. I just wasn't sure it starts. It's CH. Okay, all right, but it
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Yeah, it's like it's a chameleon and
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millionaires
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He's like adaptable yeah
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Millionaire that's I get it anyway that opening doesn't tell us that much
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It's interesting to to like always when we do these time travel things to go back to periods in Alex's career
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Where we have a great context of like who he is and how he processes information just based on a brain level
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But I don't know what he's been up to
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2011 we had a we had Somali pirate day who knows what's gonna happen or when I looked at Ebola day
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You know like there's a lot of like in 2014
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He had different waypoints that were used to and I was expecting that we would find different waypoints here
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and
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One of them it turns out is by September 2011
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Alex Jones is really into the Tea Party
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Obviously we've got an information
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Overload here, and I'm not getting a lot into politics because most of these people are
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Horses owned by the very same stable owned by the very same
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Operation the globalists like a Don King boxing match
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But we have a real contender in the arena a great
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Let's hope again who's not rigged and so the system is pulling out the stops of course his name is Ron Paul
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But I think it's important just go over a few of the dirty tricks
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They've run against him and illustrate the fact that even the corporate shill media is admitting that the Tea Party
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People who actually are
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Constitutionalist are they the Republicans have basically failed to co-opt it Rick Perry has failed to co-opt it and the Tea Party is
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Destroying Rick Perry, so he is now taken ownership of the Tea Party by this point
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We're already starting to see kernels of that in 2009 yeah, and he has Stuart Rhodes
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And they're talking about being able to go out and radicalize people first at the Tea Party and stuff like that
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All right, so it seems that at some point between these two points in time. He's
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Accepted that like I can I can
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Associate with this yeah, so that's interesting on some level and of course he's super into Ron Paul
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But that's no surprise at all everybody's cool with that and of course this is also in the lead up to the 2012 election
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so Ron Paul's running you know like
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And Rick Perry sucks, so it's true
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You can always hate on Rick Perry Alex ended the endgame documentary bullhorning Rick Perry's house about how he went to Bilderberg
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So yeah, you know he's been a longtime villain of
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His but he sucks. We're good unfortunately
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I should tell you that Alex's critiques of Rick Perry aren't always based on policy and sometimes they drift into the homophobic
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We've also got to take out politically the other Ken doll. Who's just as bad or worse, and that's Mitt twinkle-toes
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Romney he is a clone of Rick Perry except for the fact that he's from Michigan not from, Texas and
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He has not attended Bilderberg that we know
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Okay, and he was on a male cheerleader
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Normally to be a Republican contender you've got to be a male cheerleader as of late
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I'm Rick Perry of course is a male cheerleader like George W. Bush and others and
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Trent Lott the rest of them part of the twinkle-toes
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Pillow-biting club or whatever they're part of really that's home really that's where we get
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That's where we got into trouble not the twinkle-toes
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Hey, hey come on. Who is it? Who hasn't said twinkle-toes that was a
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Characterization that was given to Aang in Avatar the last airbender damn listen context math
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Off gave him the nickname twinkle-toes context because he was an airbender all right
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I assume that I assume that Alex Jones is describing both Rick Perry and
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Mitt Romney as air benders now admittedly they would not be air benders the the fire bender wasn't a pillow-biter I
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Well the fire benders were all fascists well not all of them. Okay. Let me tell you more about the ladies do
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know
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How does it relate to Dune? Oh boy so with Avatar the last airbender so
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I don't want to hear
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So I can relate it to Dune in much the same way as on our last episode. We got blindsided by
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An episode that we expected to be about something and then it became something else became about the Smalley Pirates of nowhere the same way
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I'm expecting to hear something about Occupy Wall Street, or I'm expecting Alex to keep talking about Ron Paul
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But instead he gets distracted by something. I could never have expected
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There's a bee in the studio people are waking up to the game that the who has talked about you know
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I was driving in what today listening to
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93.7
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LBJ the local rock station and listen to the who song won't get fooled again, and this was something
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This was music that came out in
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1971 and they're talking about the left-right paradigm. They're talking about the scams. They're talking about how it's a two-party dictatorship
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But finally decades and decades later more and more people well Congress has a 9% approval rating the lowest in history
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That's been a talking point of his since the fucking 2009. He's never changed the the approval rating
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Uh so look dude. He just goes on a TED talk about the won't get fooled again, man
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Look and and you know what this is one thing. I'm not gonna fault him for all right
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Yeah, it is a lot to put out four hours of content every day. No totally so I get it
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Yeah, you're driving to work
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Whatever it was you thought you were gonna talk about that day isn't you're not getting it up for it for whatever reason
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I know what it's just like that who song Baba O'Reilly. This is a teenage wasteland. There you go
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You know what you fill your time with what you got to do
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I I guess but like except that but that's what shock jocks do that's what like that's what people who have low stakes shows do
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Yeah, Alex is pretending. He lives in the world of high stakes
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Espionage and governments talk to him and listen to his show he insists on doing like 20 minutes on the importance of won't get fooled again
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It's crazy like to the point where in this next clip it starts with him reminding people who they are
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Oh the who they are exactly there, but he doesn't bring up. Who are you?
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First
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Maybe if you're younger or older
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And I don't know who the who are I should play a clip of this song to remind you here it is
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Yeah, no one's ever heard this before
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You've heard that before yeah, I love that you heard that yep
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We have to come back after the break and actually play some of the pertinent
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sections from the piece about meet the new boss same as the old boss won't get fooled again
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But I wanted to remind you of the who by the way Jaron was down at his a favorite place to watch
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Soccer on television you don't mind if I say where you go watch soccer to you Jaron
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Ah
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He loves it for does down there
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I'm trying to get me to go down there all right and guess who was there Robert player
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and I almost could strangle Jaron for not going up with his iPhone his producer phone and
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And shooting quick interview with Robert plant nobody was bugging him in there
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Most people didn't even know who he was I guess he owns one of the teams his team was losing the team
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he was watching and
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Jaron didn't go over and talk to Robert plant and then Jaron pointed out well my iPhone so old the producer iPhone is so old
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It doesn't shoot video, so I have to get a new a new producer phone, but sad issue. No shit
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It's a side issue on a side issue
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Okay, okay, so if I understand correctly the train of thought is the who I gotta remind you who the who is the who?
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the who is a
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band from
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from
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Many many decades ago. That's correct who has been played on radio one of perhaps the most famous rock bands of all time
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In the top ten at least if if you are on this planet
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And you have not heard a who song you are in the minority in the top 50 rock songs of all time
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They probably have ten no not ten like not like four five. I'd give him four Bob O'Reilly
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Yeah, who are you won't get fooled again right something off Tommy
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Oh wizard, let's go with that I
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Was getting real aggressive you were coming out hot, and then you ran out of gas quick
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There all right, so we start there
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They have a lot of really like huge so like they're kind of a big deal huge
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You don't need to remind your goddamn audience who the fucking who are let me remind you my target demographic of old white people
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Right who the who is yeah, let's start there
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You remember this?
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Next thought now that I've reminded you who the who is I'm going to bring up
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Unrelated personality Robert my producer producers ran into Robert Plant while watching sock. Yes, yeah, so so we're
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We're in you should have taken your Adderall this morning levels of
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Conversation right now secondary revelation though, and this is something that I think that most people who would listen to this wouldn't pick up on
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But I think it's actually super important. He can't afford a good phone
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No at this point in 2011 Alex gives his producers iPhones. That's true. He hates Apple
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he hates those companies and
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Yeah, he he's using the products as you know the producer phones
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And he doesn't even give him a good enough one to shoot video
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Well, he couldn't have cared about those like an anti Apple narratives back
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Then that has to have been a new addition to it when what is he what does he use a Samsung now?
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There's no phone. That's in his
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Ideological bent I'm sure he still uses Apple products, but just like Tim Cook's a monster who cares
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It's just an illustration if he prefers simplicity over
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Standing with his well how many holistic healers have we had on this show?
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Always tell a story where they're like and I had to go to the doctor one time and you're like a oh doctor, huh?
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Yeah, so in this next clip Alex is doing a dramatic reading of the lyrics of won't get fooled again
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And then makes a claim that I know is not true
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I'll tip my hat to the new
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Constitution take a bow for the new
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Revolution smile and grin at the change all around me pick up my guitar and play just like yesterday
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And I'll get on my knees and pray we won't get fooled again. Don't get fooled again
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No, no, by the way
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I have confirmed from folks that most of the who are huge fans of the show and I'm listening out to come on the show
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Some of them only some of them had a bigger than the who I've talked to who were listeners
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But won't come on cool. You got big big fans, whatever
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I want to tell you this in a
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2015 interview Pete Townsend the guy who wrote all the songs on who's next the album that won't won't get fooled again was on had
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This to say quote
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I think that music has always suffered from being tied to any kind of political or social or even spiritual or religious connection
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I suppose the who were rebellious and I suppose for a while we were or seemed to be anti establishment
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But that wasn't us really I think we were just reflecting what was going on around us. So
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Interesting also won't get fooled again was originally written to be a part of the who's scrapped sci-fi rock opera life house
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They realized they should just let Tommy stand alone
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So they abandoned life house and put the song on the album who's next also the song wasn't really even about the real world
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It was written to be the closing song of that rock opera and when you actually look at the lyrics they kind of inspire
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Apathy as opposed to revolution a criticism that many have leveled against Townsend over the years
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And that criticism seems deserved seeing as Townsend has described the song as one a quote that screams
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Defiance at those who feel any cause is better than no cause
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It's it's a rallying cry to have no position like defending your right to
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Remain silent kind of in the face right social upheaval. He's also a pedophile
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alleged
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probable
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Lighthouse was quit like it was a quintessential rock slash prog rock opera
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It was set in a dystopian time when rock and roll was gone and people were oppressed and given bland entertainment
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But a select group of people and a wizened old guru kept a secret knowledge of the power of rock secret
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But alive prog rock was so good. I love me a good. Yes, it probably felt fresh in
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1970 and the cocaine obviously helped but this is basically the same plot of Russia's
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2112 and tons of other concept albums not least of which Deltron 3030
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Anyway, my point here is that Alex could not be more wrong about the who they were art school weirdos who shied away from any
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True revolutionary sentiment even as it relates to this very song
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The song may have been adopted by many people with revolutionary intent, but that was never the interest of the band. They were
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Largely
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Just like there and you can see it in Pete Townshend's later career
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Like he's gotten more involved in like the Philharmonic and stuff like that. You know, it's it
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It it it's crazy. It's crazy. I like a good concept album. I do too. I do. Yeah. Have you ever heard Masayoshi?
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Takanaka's seven goblins. I'm not
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Yeah, you should check that. Maybe I should say he's a guitar virtuoso
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I will say that I liked concept albums a lot more back when I used to get high all the time
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I'll say that they were perfect for that. Yeah that immersive experience of like this album is telling me a story along with music
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It's great. You want to have a really boring conversation about m83 whether or not he's doing concept albums, but not telling people
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Are you dope? Nope. All right, so Alex is you know, he's doing his
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Misguided TED talk about the who which I think is very interesting on some level. Yeah
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Well, if only because it's not interesting, you know, if that makes sense, it doesn't it's out of place. It's weird
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It it takes up a large chunk of the show like at least 15 20 minutes
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He's spending talking about this new song that has been out for good 30 something years at this point
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To me it feels like if I heard it before
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Yeah, like if I were to start explaining like 90s hip-hop from st. Louis and the surrounding area to you, right?
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Let me tell you about the members of the lunatics. Yeah. Yeah, and you're like, I know I've been alive
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I know that city spud was in prison. I get it. That's why the first album was called freeze
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Free city second album was called city free. Hold on got out of prison. I understand
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Are you a 60 year old white guy? Let me tell you about a band called lead
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Zeppelin
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Freak out no idea. Holy shit
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You don't even know that there's a California hotel that you cannot get out. That's the Eagles, but I know
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Me I understand. Isn't that crazy? I just was worried you'd get an email. Oh
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I was also worried about that. It's just nuts to me. Like why waste your time?
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You're in the middle of like trying to defend Ron Paul about like why he's running for president
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I got occupy Wall Street happening. That should be either
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Something you're super into or super against yet. You've got a dissect the goddamn who?
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although on the other hand, perhaps it makes even more sense because his dichotomy is Ron Paul and
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Occupy Wall Street
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What song could be more fitting than apathy from the won't get fooled again lyrics because Ron Paul has already
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Fooled him none of what Ron Paul says is true and the Occupy Wall Street for him is a clear lie
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So he won't get fooled again by either of those and instead he will not get fooled by instead talking about won't get fooled
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Dan perhaps or it's just a way of putting off having to say anything real that makes more sense
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I don't know. I'm gonna go with you any of this is possible
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But he he goes into this he spends a good bit of time about that and then he goes to commercial and I heard a
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Commercial that I'd never heard before that I think is really interesting and it's one of these rare
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Instances like a lot of the time you'll hear it fucking messed up commercial on his show
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Yeah, like that Most High Family monastery. Oh, that was fucked up. I was super fucked up
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That wasn't Alex doing the voiceover for it, right?
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Or like all of his commercials that he's done for like the Israeli Tourism Bureau, right?
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Those are packaged commercials that are sent over and he's played he makes money off it
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But this one he's doing a voiceover for and it just I'm here to tell you today that I have a modest
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Proposal that you guys should look into there is a new food company out there
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They're revolutionizing the way that we eat our children. What if you have you what if he what if he advocated for Soylent?
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What if he got on board with Soylent real early?
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It's not great. It's not green
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This is Alex Jones and I just want to let you know it is made of people
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JK, just just get does buck with you
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So when I heard this commercial it struck my ear really weird because first of all, I found it to be cagey
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I found the specifics to be lacking
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uh-huh, and that led me to have to figure out what this was a commercial for then when I found out I found out it's
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a scam and
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Alex did the voiceover for it a
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Very wealthy US system is predicting that in
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2011 we will witness the most important day in America in more than 50 years
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He says it will change everything about our lives the way you shop travel invest
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Educate your children and even how you take care of your health and your own family
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Race predictions of the years the crazy part is he's usually right you see he predicted the collapse of GM
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Danny May Freddie Mac and America's biggest mall owner general growth properties
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In fact Barron's called his work a dire prophecy recently
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He created a video which you can watch online for free detailing his biggest and most important prediction yet
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And it's a real eye-opener. I can't stress this enough. You should at least watch this free video online today
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He explains everything you need to know including simple steps. You can take to protect yourself. You can find the video at
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www.endofamerica3.com that's end of America the number three dot-com watch the free video at
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www.endofamerica3.com that's endofamerica3.com
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He just says the URL four times at the end there. Also, it's not the third installment
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I bet he just couldn't get the URL and I know the only the only question that I am the only thing that
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So if you're writing an ad
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Not to you know show how the sausage is made, right?
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But the call to action should be towards the action you want as opposed to that call to action
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Which makes me want to go? Well, what the fuck's up with endofamerica1.com, right?
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I can't go you're not selling me on endofamerica3.com until you tell me on endofamerica1.com
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I can't jump in on return of the Jedi without seeing the first two
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So end of America 3 is the work of a guy named Porter Stansberry
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Which Alex is very keen to not say his name in the commercial a very wealthy American is saying this
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That's Porter Stansberry and to put it simply he is a fucking con man. Alex is not just running a commercial for him
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He did the voiceover for it and he plays it four times during this two-hour episode
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He's pushing this or at least he's getting a lot of money which oh, yeah this advertise
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Yeah, yeah Stansberry is a fraud in the vein of most of Alex's guests
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He spreads fear of a pending collapse
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And advises people to subscribe to his expensive newsletter for advice and also he advises them to buy gold and silver
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His credibility was based on the claim that he has that he had predicted the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
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Problem is that the only evidence of this prediction is him saying that he predicted it after the fact
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In a funny turn of events how the best predictions work
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It's true in a funny turn of events one of Stansberry's harshest critics was fellow Alex Jones guest and notorious gold bug Peter Shiff
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Who studied all of Stansberry's newsletters from 2006 to 2008 and on his own show called him out and said he was a liar
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What what are you doing? You're breaking the code. Yeah, Peter says check him to the woodshed. That's bullshit
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That's it. That's con man's code. You don't fuck up another man's con. It's just rude
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I mean, it kind of makes me respect Peter Schiff a little more not much
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Yeah
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But I assume I assume there's a con man
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High council that got together and censored Peter Schiff because of this and there's also a possibility that like he was working against Peter Schiff scam
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Interests, so maybe there wasn't it like a turf war. Yeah, maybe like cut it off at the pass
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Yeah, yeah, cuz there are there are a lot of similarities in terms of like selling newsletters
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And advocating for where you buy your gold and silver from it's possible
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Yeah, turf war is entirely turf war turf war makes it whatever the motivation is. I do enjoy seeing these Alex Jones guests and
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Supporters beef it makes me pretty fun. It makes me so angry because he it does prove that they can research true
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Yeah. Oh, oh, did you spend two years?
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Looking at this guy's shit and then using real-world information to synthesize whether or not it was fucking valuable
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Oh, have you thought about doing that before?
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Brain, they do they do they just spend that time instead of researching the truth
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Fine-tuning the scams exactly so but that's because that's what's most profitable like that's right if we did that
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We would have a fucking Bitcoin operation going and we would have cashed out long ago
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But instead we do this and I'm glad some people like it
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In 2003 the SEC filed a case against Porter Stansberry for selling false information to his subscribers
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He claimed to have insider tips that a certain stock was going to go up
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But it did not an investigation found that he had just made up the source and in 2007
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He was sentenced to pay 1.5 million dollars in restitution to the people he had defrauded
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He tried to pull a First Amendment argument, but the court rejected it because quote Stansberry's conduct
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Undoubtedly involved deliberate fraud making statements that he knew to be false
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The sentence was upheld by the Fourth Circuit Court and the Supreme Court refused to hear the case because why would you yeah
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Yeah
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The episode that we're listening to where these ads are from comes from 2011 years after Stansberry was charged with
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Intentional fraud and here Alex is doing a voiceover for the commercials for his new fraud Wow
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that is
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Alex has no
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Moral compass. He doesn't give a fuck. I
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Didn't know that you didn't even need the definition of the word unscrupulous
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You could just show that it's nuts
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Like the idea why use words to describe what unscrupulous means when you could just tell that story
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well, the idea of him doing like Alex doing exactly what he did in 2011 and say like
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2005 2006 something like that for Porter Stansberry before he was charged by the SEC and had to pay out 1.5 million dollars
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Does he defrauded a ton of I know but like that's a really good front. Yeah, that's too good. Yeah, it's too good
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That's why you get into trouble. Yeah, you can't fraud that guy like Icarus you fraud it
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Yeah, you gotta you gotta pull back on your fraud. Yeah, so I find that interesting
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I always like to check in with where his monetary sources are coming from and
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Great to find out that in 2011. They're no more ethical than they are at any other point
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Nope, but like we've already sort of seen a little bit
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Beyond wanting to talk about the who Alex seems mostly into Ron Paul today. Yeah, and in this next clip
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We see that he's fucking super into it and I was driving in listen local radio today and I heard a host
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You listen asking his listeners. Why are you saying Ron Paul is a first-tier? He contains multitudes
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Damn when he came in fifth or whatever it was in, Florida
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why do you guys keep insisting he can win and
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I heard a few callers who really couldn't articulate things. Let me articulate things for everybody out there. Okay?
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Ron Paul has won the two coveted CPAC polls in a row by record percentages
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That is a Republican straw poll of the real Republican
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Faithful now, this is a misrepresentation
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Because I don't know if you remember this during the Republican primary
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election yeah
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Mitt Romney announced ahead of time that he was skipping straw polls
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He did not engage at all his campaign made it very clear
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We are only focusing on caucuses and primaries these straw polls
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It will be a waste of our resources
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So in the first straw poll that came out Ron Paul was way up there
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Mitt Romney was way low because he put no effort into campaigning no effort into being involved in the process of it at all
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Yeah
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And so that gave people like Alex Jones this
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Incredibly false hope that Ron Paul had the goods to go the distance and he fucking didn't these these
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Indications of the like what Alex pulls out first in terms of his defense of Ron Paul. There's these straw polls
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And if you know anything about what was going on, you would know that that is a I don't know
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What is it a hollow victory? You know, it's like yes here Rick. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you beat Santorum. I
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Hope you would I mean, yeah, I mean
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As I recall it was like him and Bachman were at the top
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It was not good. So like but Mitt Romney would have won them if he was involved as evidenced by all of the primaries that started
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Happening and Mitt Romney just started steamrolling. Yeah
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Yeah
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so people people in the Republican Party didn't know that they could be that racist in the 2011 or in the 2012 election sure
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They were they were all like oh
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There's a black president. So obviously people want multiculturalism. There's no way to win on a purely we hate black people
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platform, so let's pick like a Mitt Romney or like
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it wasn't until
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Trump really showed them that you can let your racist flag fly that they realized that Ron Paul probably would have beaten if Ron
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Paul would speak freely. He could be elected now. Yeah
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before
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And he probably could maybe you could have gotten like if you spoke freely before because he would have galvanized a lot of that
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If they had just gone full racist, they probably could have beaten Obama in 2012. There's a decent chance, which is really scary
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That's what we should have
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That's what we should have learned from Trump winning is that if they had gone full racist
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We would have had a one-term Obama if Ron Paul hadn't denied writing all those newsletters and stuff like that
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You might have seen an acceleration of where we ended up four years later exactly
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But it's hard to tell because he's also not nearly as charismatic as Trump
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You know like in a just sort of a broad sense in a reality TV show old man. Yeah
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What have you and also he's boring?
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Generally as a as a orator. Yes, and also his brother thinks that three people voted for the Federal Reserve
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Let's be honest. He thinks that three people
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Come on so it's just all Ron Paul defense that's going on. There's a lot of that
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There's a lot of I've cut out because it's just straight dogshit boring
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Yeah, just him being like rock and win. I
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Don't need to hear that a hundred times. Yeah. Yeah, we will hear a little bit more of it later
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But before we do we got to check in with what Alex thinks about the highwaymen
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Does he want to sing along with
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What?
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Year, are we not gonna find out how he feels about the highwayman? Well in different years, he has different responses to it
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Sometimes it just plays. Sometimes he sings along with it. Okay. Let's see how it goes. Here we go. I
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Was a highwayman
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Sword and pistol by my share
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Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade. Who is this Bill Clinton? Oh
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We got jokes. You can trust me. I'm good
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Global warming's real pale gore money. That's not bad
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In terms of his impressions, that's not bad currently an easy impression, but that's not bad wasn't a terror
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That was easily his best impression that we've ever seen. Yeah, that's a good impression of this standard Bill Clinton. Yeah
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It's basically him
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Yeah, yeah exactly
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But Darrell it was great still better than his impression of a Domian's burning
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Yeah, whatever he's doing anyway in this next clip, like I said, this whole most of this show is about
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Defensiveness about Ron Paul and this next clip follows that same theme. I mean, this is so
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Elementary that it makes my head spin sometimes
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That you've got a guy who has come in first second or third in every
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scientific poll of hundreds and hundreds I've seen who wins all the spontaneous internet polls that I believe are even more
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Scientific but only vote once what or in your IP address who's winning every one of those
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Usually in double digits what in fact in every case by double or right at double and they're saying sorry. He can't win
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Sorry, he's not a choice. Sorry. He's not a contender
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That'd be like if there was a guy in Formula One racing
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Who had won races coming second and third and a bunch of others. They're in the pole position out of the gates and
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With
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80% of the race to go they're in third place and
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Their car is picking up steam running great and they say it's too bad that the Marlboro car
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Or the Jack Daniels car or whatever it is or the Chevy car too bad that car can't win
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I think I'm more one of those three can make a car
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I
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Think a more apt metaphor would be like okay
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So you're doing this race and the guy who has the best like way faster car
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wasn't in for the first two laps and
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You know your car is going fine
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It's maybe running out of its it doesn't have any more boosters on it doesn't anymore. Nah doesn't have any not
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We're getting into fast and furious. Yeah. Yeah, and so what you got here is you're doing fine
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You're you're going around the course and what-have-you, but the guy who has the much better faster sleeker car
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And is better at driving it is now in the race and he's gaining on you
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You're right who have just a like because cokes, but his rockets. Yeah, and so there's a legitimate way to look at it
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It's like well, let's say he's in third
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Then that's a great position for him to be in at any point, but he's only in third because Mitt Romney is gaining
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Everyone fucking I remember this
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Everyone knew no one no one
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No was a tiny piece of the conversation that Santorum had a chance a tiny piece
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But no one really believed that no it was
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Well, that's because we all know that Santorum is the frothy mixture of fecal matter and lube that occurs after anal sex, right?
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There was that that came out of the the election as well. I
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Just I think his metaphors are weak
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I I just think he's not dealing with reality. But why would he he's
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Fetish eyes and the idea of a Paul candidacy, of course, and that's cool. That's just sort of to be expected
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That was the thing that a lot of people did. Oh, no, totally. Yeah, I don't I don't begrudge him for it
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but it's it's interesting to see that there's so much going on in the world like like legitimately the day before
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80 people who were peaceful protesters were arrested at the Occupy Wall Street encampment violently
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Yeah, violently and and the other people other people were pushed to the ground roughed up pepper sprayed
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And these are white people really of them really close to Kent State you like
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Really close to you would think that would trigger Alex like you'd think that you seeing these young white women being sprayed with pepper
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Spray would be like I'm gonna start my show talking about this
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But somehow it's not it's very weird and to me that I think is a strong indication that he doesn't care that much
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He doesn't care at all
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He might care a little I don't know but he cares more about Ron Paul and he's really pissed off
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The people are saying that he that he can't win to the point where he can't do his show
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Okay, look, it's so elementary and so simple that Ron Paul is being cheated that I've gotten so angry today
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That I haven't hardly been able to talk. I really stumble about and I've done that some today because it's so ridiculous
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But watch the entire establishment running scared from Ron Paul
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He's he's presenting this idea that Ron Paul is being screwed
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but most of that I really think is because I've gone back and looked at some of the
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Primaries from 2012 because it's kind of relevant to like trying to figure out Alex's political trajectory
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Yeah, yeah as it related to especially turning into Trump shit later
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and and one of the things that I noticed is that like
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the only reason that
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2008 and 2012 were different for Ron Paul supporters is that in 2008?
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No one fucking thought he could win even his supporters didn't think he could win
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Yeah, but in 2012 because Mitt Romney didn't
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participate in the straw polls that came
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Earliest in the primary season. Yeah, and because there had been the four years of the Tea Party
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Party
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Galvanizing movement where people were more engaged and that that weird nationalizing movement
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Maybe not necessarily as overtly back then
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But yeah
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You could call it
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libertarian energy sure that that was sort of growing this at this farther to the right or weirder to the right
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Than the GOP that energy had existed for a few years. So when those two things intersected the
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the Mitt Romney not participating at the beginning of the primary season right and this swelling of
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the appearance of massive grassroots success
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2012 was a heartbreaking experience for people who actually bought into it because there was the perception that he could win
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At the beginning of the primary season there was an idea
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I mean based on unfortunate coincidences that didn't depict the reality at all
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But there was a perception that he could he could win and Alex is presenting this idea. I think that he's being screwed
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Based on the fact that all that momentum that was gained by Mitt Romney not being involved in the campaign
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Sort of dissipated as Mitt Romney got involved right in the campaign
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Right Alex is trying to also on this episode help Ron Paul
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Because he doesn't like to give advice
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In this instance, he's going to oh, he's not gonna give advice, but I think this advice is bad
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I don't ever try to call Ron Paul up and give him advice, but I think I am and it's this
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He needs to get up at the next debate to say hold on a minute and hold up a sheet and say
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The average candidate was given ten minutes in the last debate. I was given four minutes
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I've been given the least amount of time in every debate and the moderator saying that in the question say listen
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I know you got an agenda. Give me the floor and I know Ron Paul get angry here
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First of all, I know Ron Paul can get angry not great. Here's a great strategy seem entitled. Yeah
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that again
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Worked be a whiny dick that work. It worked for Trump because it was aggressive. I know I know
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I know I'm being I'm being facetious. Yeah, so I've seen it before
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Okay, it's always the nice guy that's being real friendly. That's because they're actually a tyrannosaurus
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Only guy on the congressional baseball team to every not ever knock out a home run. Wait, whoa
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That clip right the fuck there. What did you research that fuck? No, did you research that that is something?
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I need to know has nobody in the Republican Congress ever hit a fucking home run
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I don't believe that that needs to be publicly available knowledge
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Do you believe that?
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Republican shirts vs. Skins baseball games are not the box scores aren't publicly Google dude
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Hold on, but think about this for one second
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Don't you think a lot of Republican voters would change their vote based upon knowing that there are giant
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wussies don't you think that a lot of the people that
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Are the most electable as Republicans also have a history as being athletes
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Like there's a lot of you they I think so. I think or did well
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I mean not not a lot of the old old people necessarily
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I'm just younger people like Jim Jordan Jim Jordan can hit a dinger. There's no doubt about it. You think so?
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I I want to find out like guarantee it Jim Jordan
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I challenge you even to hit a home run off of my curve. I bet Romney's got wheels
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Romney is a no. He was a governor. He was probably wasn't welcome
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Romney is the weakest of teas there's ever been Romney's got wheels
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I could he could hit it inside the park home run if if by the way, they don't play in a park
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Well, I guess it's a park, but there's no wall if I swear to God
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I think this is true if they had just shown video of Mitt Romney running
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He would never have won the GOP
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Nomination also like if people just saw him try and run they would look at him and he would look like a baby duck
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It would be pathetic. I understand also that at this point like Ron Paul in his time in the house has been there for like since
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1975 yeah, he's like he's been there forever, so he's really old at this point, but he's been there forever, right?
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Maybe he hit that home run 20 years ago or something like that. Yeah, I don't fucking know
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No one's ever hit. Why do you keep playing? I don't know so everyone can hit bloops
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Yeah, get the fuck out of here Vera Sasha Cohen went after Ron Paul
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You know basically slapped him upside the head push him out of the way Ron Paul is a nice guy because he's aggressive
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It's aggressive people have trained themselves to be friendly, but he needs to turn loose and open up a can of you-know-what
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He's just say listen
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I've been given less time everybody else up here. I've won most of straw polls
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I've come in first second and third and all the scientific balls, but everybody says I can't win
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That's because I'm the only one up here not bought and paid for I'm not a globalist whore you want America back
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You want the Republic back vote for me and stop letting the control media. Tell you who's gonna win
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And I'm gonna go further here, and then just basically lay out the facts Alex doesn't say what the facts are
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But I don't know what Ron Paul's version of the facts would be but I would be interested to know what those were
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I guess like his whole entire speech there about what Ron needs to do is like just be a fucking dick
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Which is interesting Somali pirate well?
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It's it's very interesting on that level, but then also in terms of like what we know from the
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2016 election right when he's in support of Rand Paul
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And he keeps saying Rand be aggressive be an asshole and Rand won't do it
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But who lines up being an asshole in the exact way that Alex just asked Ron Paul to it's interesting to see this like sort
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Of same advice being given to this guy's dad and both generations can't follow through with it
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But then eventually one guy can so Alex is like real defensive about Ron Paul is
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He's pissed off that everybody doesn't like him as much as they they should like, but he's so likable, but here's the thing
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He's present like Alex keeps presenting that he's in the top three right and the top third the top three is
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Always the best in everything which Alex will lay out in this clip, and I will
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Rebut on the other end
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The top three is the top tier I actually have to disagree with Ron Paul this thing about I'd be in the first or second
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Tier you're definitely in the top tier the top tier is the top three candidates first second and third place
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That's how any game any race works the top three are the main contenders the top three teams in the NBA the?
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NFL the National Baseball League
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Any of those work in horse racing horse racing is the closest he's come as like place show
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Exact a box
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Conferences and oh man, it's never an odd number. It's always like the final four
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For five years the top three teams were in the West in the NBA, and then there's just LeBron
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And that was it it was LeBron versus the West yeah
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There is nothing that it depicts reality about the top three and the contenders
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And the examples that he is using like I I could come up with a better one like the Olympics gold silver and bronze that
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Makes sense, but they aren't contenders
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That's the end result the three people who came in for a second and third are the people who get rewarded
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No
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They're the contenders the person who gets bronze can't still win or what you know
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They're in the top three they won and said they got a medal or whatever
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But they that you can't become the gold medalist by coming in third
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It's the only time that the top three are important our horse racing and of the Olympic Games like that sort of thing
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Yeah, but the top three are only important after it's done. I was gonna say yeah, isn't he isn't he describing odds?
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He's just describing betting odds
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He's describing odds makers maybe like it cuz even if you've watched the Olympics like it there
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It's the the top three it's like the three teams to watch right in Olympic ice skating
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Does not mean that they're they like no it doesn't mean you're the best nope it means people
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Widely agree they show a lot of promise. You've had games. This yeah doesn't mean anything no
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But I love the idea that he's presenting this like the top three are the contenders in all games
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Yeah, if the Alex if the top three were contenders the Washington Nationals would have won a World Series by now
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They have divisions. There wouldn't be divisions. There wouldn't be like the entire like just the foundations of sport. Yeah
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Mmm. Anyway, what are you gonna do? He's just trying to make Ron feel better
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So that's a worthy goal. Sure. Let's be honest in this Ron needs help this next clip
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We're checking in on 2011. Yep, and it's interesting to see where some of these
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Incongruous things that we talked about in 2009. Mm-hmm come in any time like something like this pops up
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I like to bring make a point of it in present day. Alex Jones is not into Iran
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I was not like Iran against him in 2009. He was pro-iran. They were great. So where does he fall in 2011?
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Bill Clinton Mitt Romney and Rick Perry and tell you they're great
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And yes, then they sit there and say we've got to have war with Iran
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Well not met dinner shades about to be out of office when the UN is in there
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The reactors cannot produce weapons material, but so what dozens of countries have weapons South Africa has nukes
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We're gonna attack them. The Russians had 10,000 nukes. We never had a war with them. Iran gets one nuke
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They use them. They're a parking lot
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What about somebody staging a nuke attack though to start World War three to politically get everybody to stand down and go along?
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Did you ever think about that or is it too much fun to hate Ahmed energy because he doesn't look like you
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You crazy. First of all, Alex is doing some sort of like high-ground racism argument there at the end
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Which is weird, but then also I mean that's a very pro-iran
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sort of
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So what you don't like those three girls in that pool supply store don't look like you don't look like you that's wild
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That is weird. It's very strange. I don't understand what it is
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He is thinking he's doing let alone what it is. He is actually just up to at least 2011
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He has a pretty solidly pro-iran or at least
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against
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demonizing Iran standpoint
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That's interesting that's that's pretty interesting that it extended this far. It sounds like he's against American colonialism
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Which okay, I guess yeah, I mean if you're if you're advocating for anybody wars
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But that goes along with all but no, I mean not just around no
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not just that but like the idea of advocating for a country to get a nuke is
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essentially saying if
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You want to have a conversation with the United States you better protect your neck like that's what he's saying
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He's like, yeah, Iran should have a bomb. Otherwise, they're not gonna be able to talk to us at all
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I don't think that's what he's saying. He's dismissing the very idea that the capabilities that they have
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Will ever produce that or have any potential to produce that okay
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So that's why he put in the little nod to the UN saying that you can't weaponize this material
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Yeah, but that doesn't okay. I mean, yeah, I get they aren't a threat in the way that people who make them a threat
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Like Bill Clinton Mitt Romney. Yeah
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They aren't and Rick Perry. Yeah, they aren't that they they they are they don't they're not on that path
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Right, which is something that Alex will definitely
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Disagree with within a few years from this point for sure
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I'm not sure why but it's I think it's probably cuz a black man made a deal. I
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Don't know because I mean Obama's president in 2011
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And yeah, but he hasn't made these made. He hasn't made the deal yet
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I know once he makes the deal everybody everybody goes apeshit by principle
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He should be fine with that deal because if he but not just fine with it, but like supporting
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Yeah, because before if before the deal he is like, yeah, they aren't a threat. Yeah, we should all keep it that way
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Obama makes a deal that will help keep it that way
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It's hard not to feel that way pretty much no, I don't know
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Can't really say that cuz we're just taking a snapshot of 2011. We don't know where it builds to ray or how it does
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It's just gonna be such a bummer if it's team sports. Yeah, I know it's always about like with Alex
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That's one of the fun things about it is we get a random ass Somali Somali pirate day
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We're not just playing team sports. You hope you hope that whatever this is because it seems like it's big
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Yeah, you hope that it comes from some principled place. Yeah, and there actually is like a tree breaking as opposed to a toothpick
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Yeah, you hope that there's some like moment where it's like
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No, this is too much. Yeah, I can't imagine what that is
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No, hope that there's at least that presentation
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But I mean who knows we know that we shouldn't give Alex much credit
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I think we've learned that over the years zero credit
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Anyway in this next clip Alex gets really defensive about how he knows a lot of stuff
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I'm supposed to just sit here and be calm and talk about
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You know how bad Obama is all day instead of how bad the entire system is. I want it to stop
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I'm not a chump. I'm not a sucker. I'm not a schmuck. I'm not an idiot. I'm not a mark
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I'm not here to be a slave. I'm not here to be an idiot
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I know what's going on because it's in my face, and I don't like it
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All right, I said, I'm going to your calls cool
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Man, I have never heard a guy
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moored loudly
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Protests all of the things that he is and has proven himself to be before the only thing that was like a
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Laundry list of the things that he is in the present
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The only thing more glaring I've ever heard is I know how to read like all right
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Yeah, exactly how to read you don't so all that stuff is just we can stop there. That's just insecurities
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He's just screaming about his insecurities like yeah. Yeah, I'm not dumb
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I'm not getting fooled you are you are you are dumb. You're willingly fooling yourself
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Yeah with these stupid fucking narratives so Jordan our friend
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Sent us on this time travel adventure to find out about occupy walls cuz apparently he hates us
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And it turns out Alex. Thanks, Joshua
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Look Joshua's great. Joshua is a great guy Alex
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17 clips up till this point not talking about occupy Wall Street
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Wait we're actually gonna talk about occupy Wall Street finally Alex gets to occupy Wall Street
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And let's see what his angle is see who his expert on the streets is for occupy Wall Street
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Luke Radowski on founder we are
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a
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Porter for some large national news outlets like arty and others
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He's been in and out of the week-long
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Demonstrations there in New York there were a bunch of arrests some say 80 some say 100 some say 20
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I don't know. I've got a bunch of articles about it. You could love
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I know you've been there off and on peaceful people trying to demonstrate
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Laura Manhattan is it allowed just like China, but all that's okay cuz we're America
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And so you don't protest Wall Street, and the media is calling him communist and certainly some of them are communist
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But nobody's a bigger communist than Wall Street
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But there tens of trillions of bailout money stealing our cash and Wall Street funding socialism to steal our money
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So yeah, there's some dumb commies on the ground protesting their bosses
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Yes
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But I'm told Luke most of these people are in the fetters that really know what's going on Luke Radowski tells
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What's happening most of these people are caring loving Americans who want this system to end screwing everybody over sadly
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When all the action was going on yesterday?
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I was actually across on the other side of town, but I ran to Union Square where all the arrests were happening
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So Luke Radowski wasn't even there. He was on the other side of New York
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We got a man on the ground
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He was on the other side of town he was getting a cronut, I don't know what the time frame is
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I remember when the cronut happened. I don't fucking know man. He was just over there getting a bisque
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He was having a soup. I don't know he was just lollygagging
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He was he's not a serious person. He's not Luke Radowski is not a serious person. He was hanging out in New York
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Oh my god. What is this the Occupy Wall Street thing is blowing up
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So he ran across town and tried to get some after-the-fact interviews
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He wasn't actually engaged with the people who were there really getting arrested of course not really
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Luke Radowski is not interested in revolution either neither is Alex none of these people are
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now
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The important thing I think here is that
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Alex is wrong
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Yes, the way he's presenting this he's
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Spent an hour and 40 minutes or so of his show not talking about any of this
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Well, then he gets to Luke Radowski's interview and he says I hear a bunch of these people are Ed and end of the fetters
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Which is end of the Federal Reserve? Yes, I
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That's not accurate. That wasn't a big piece of
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Occupy Wall Street. No, I remember Occupy Wall Street
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they were very insistent that there were only three members of Congress who voted for the Fed and
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There there may there was the real their rallying cry was the Fed was voted in by three people
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There might be some people and maybe even like a you know a contingent at some point
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that were
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Federal Reserve suspicious there probably was at some point, but it wasn't a central tenant of the
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Our
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OWS
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Movement it really wasn't even from the jump. No, it wasn't a destroy the Fed thing
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Absolutely, not the tea party and Alex Jones and Ron Paul
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those people were and the Fed type people so Alex is
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imagining these people who are
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Protesting against Wall Street who are just dumb commies who don't realize they're protesting their bosses
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He's minimizing the entire like right him at the people are making right
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Maybe a lot of them are exactly like what I am, huh?
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Isn't that interesting but you remember that remember that long list on the other hand? Yeah, I made at the beginning of this
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It's it was it was intentional like Alex is in the exact same
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zigzag pattern that the intro of this episode is like the episode beginning was like he is I
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I don't think he knows where to land. I think that he's mad that the police are oppressing these people
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Yeah, he likes that. They're making fun of the banks
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He also likes that the specific people who are being oppressed are being oppressed though
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There is definitely that they're being actually oppressed as opposed to imaginary. Oh, yeah. Yeah being pepper sprayed and dragged by nets
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He's he's a man without a country in this particular. He's he's our Kurt Vonnegut on these people out there at Occupy
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Wall Street might as well be
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Somality pirates cuz you can't help but admire him. It is it is interesting
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Specifically because I remember the way
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Your mainstream right-wing outlets covered this at the time, which was pure like these commies wanna
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Baba so it seemed that way. Yeah, so the the Tea Party arose and they were like
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Oh, these people are fighting for economic freedom
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They're definitely not reacting because there's a black guy as president and then these people who are fighting for an economic freedom
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They were like they're just protesting because they want to overthrow the government, right?
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Yeah, we we got it. I do guess that I appreciate Alex for
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waffling I
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guess that's a
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Zero in his win-loss column, I think it's a more sinister position, honestly
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Like inactivity is activity if you will will be it's not inactivity
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He's not willing to like really take a stand like he's against the idea that these protesters got arrested
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But he's also still denigrating them
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Right and he's also clearly not on board with what Occupy Wall Street stands for at this point
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Which is not getting fucked over and he's pretending that he understands better what they want than they even do
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No, they don't not get fucked over little child little communist stooge
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I understand that you're mad at your boss communist stooge. No, but I know better. I know but look I understand
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The fuck are you you don't think he's your boss, but he's not our boss. Look he's paying you Soros. I'm a
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Currier this whole time. He's talking about the Occupy Wall Street stuff doesn't oh, he does not brought up Soros one doesn't bring at all
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I thought weird so I
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Think that I have an angle on this at least in terms of like September 25th, 2011
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I don't think that Alex gives a shit about much of this
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he
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Sees potential there and I think in this next clip you'll be able to see what that potential is
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Okay, so this is gonna happen right now all info warriors in the New York area. Where do they converge again?
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Look Liberty Plaza by City Hall right by right in the Queen Wall Street. We're all there
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What do you think you're gonna stand at the Liberty Plaza?
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What do you think? This is America? Let's beat the people up at the Liberty Plaza
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That's just his Bernie impression, but he's doing it as a New York cop who's mad at the people who are gathering
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he's telling all the
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Info warriors in New York to go to the was burning working as a cop at that time
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Bernie was a detective in 2011 Bert was Bernie a grizzled detective
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He perhaps just a week away from getting his he perhaps too old for this shit
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He's just about to retire a bit, but he had to train a young buck
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Yeah
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We've seen this movie
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What Alex is presenting here? I think is a perfect synthesis of his early
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Occupy Wall Street position. I don't know entirely but I'm gonna guess
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That he hasn't talked much about it before this because he doesn't seem to care much
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Doesn't seem to care much the day after a ton of people get arrested and oppressed
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peaceful protesters getting jammed up
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Uh protesting against Wall Street, which seems like something he'd be so into
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He spent most of his show talking about bullshit like dissecting the who like all this stuff
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He spent that much time doing that shit. He spends four minutes talking about
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Occupy Wall Street at all the day after probably one of the most
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like if you really look at the like, of course when the police came in and took all the
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uh tents out and stuff like that like that was much more of a
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Like encroachment right but like this was one of the biggest early warning shots of like this is getting serious
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Alex doesn't give a shit
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He doesn't I don't I don't think he knew before this but I bet he will I bet he will
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Because you think he'll give a shit later
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Well because based on that clip that last clip
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What I heard from him is all you info warriors go down there
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Because I think he thinks they can co-opt them
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I honestly think that that is his position in the same way with the Tea Party in
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2009 that we've seen when he talked to Stuart Rhodes about like
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This Tea Party is a place where we can find people and then we can educate them about the Federal Reserve and all this
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Yeah, yeah, I think he views the the Occupy Wall Street movement as like hey
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Look, maybe some of them self-identify as commies because they're fucking dumb and they don't know who their boss is
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But we can red-pill those bitches down there and we can figure this out and then before you know it Ron Paul revolution
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2.0. I honestly think that that's probably the position he's coming from
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I don't I don't think that's I I don't think that's wrong info warriors all go down to this park
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Let's let's flood this. Let's tell ya the truth. We got Luke Rudowski across town when hacks action happens
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But he's somewhere he's around. I don't know. I don't know. I find this to be a very dishonest
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warriors
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Who live in New York?
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Luke Rudowski is around
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Start looking try to do a better job than him
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You know how easy it is to find a human being in New York there. Oh, they could be anywhere
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There's it's a small space. I find this to be like on a journalistic level
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Negligent and then on a narrative level like from what I would expect from Alex just
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Terrible like and he's still 2011. I understand that you know in 2011
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He was more on his brand than ever and his brand was hating the banks. That's true
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This should be that like this should be his opus no matter what like
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Positive or negative in or out whatever the case is
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He should have a rock-solid position a week into this movement
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Yeah, like the people like occupying Zuccotti Park like he shouldn't have ambivalence about it
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He should either like I understand day one not knowing what you think but a week in
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They could start on the 17th. We're talking about the 25th. He has a week from the day before this show
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yeah, everything to play out and
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Get his bearings figure out what he thinks about it. He doesn't think anything about it except
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Maybe we can twist them into hating the Federal Reserve the problem is that that
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offer to you like that seems like a bit of a
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Rebuttal to so many arguments we've had where when we were talking about
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Oh, he's changed his principles in the present day as compared to where they were in the past
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well in 2011 if he were following his
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Stated principles. He would be all for Occupy Wall Street
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Not really because it's not like not really because they're very left and anti
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They they want to tear down a lot right and regulate markets and stuff like that much like William Black
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Occupy Wall Street put out a bunch of
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Stated policy positions. Yep, like they which are against Alex's interest. No, no. No, I I know what you're saying
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I and they did they did do that
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But the Occupy Wall Street as a movement was not centered around like we're gonna send these policy
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Proposals to buh in the same way that the Tea Party wasn't a movement that was built around we're sending policy proposals to buh
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It is something that
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ideologically the idea of a group of people
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non-violently
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resistance
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Exactly like this version
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principles his principles didn't mean shit in
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2011 and they don't mean shit in 2016 and they don't mean shit now and they don't mean shit in 2009
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No
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This to me to me this is nice to know is that like there wasn't any shift on
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principles ever know the principles have always been I
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Want Nazis in the White House and to double down on this? I honestly believe like from everything I can tell
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Alex eventually ends up liking Occupy Wall Street that motherfucker
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Because I think that he thinks he can co-opt it the same way opted the tea party, right?
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And so I think this is I think I think it'll be an interesting I want to do a full investigation of this
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I really do because I want to understand it better. I want to understand the path. Yeah, I don't want to know
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Hey on the 25th. He was
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Dismissive of it, but also thought he could co-opt it right and then it like mid-october. He's a fan of it
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I don't want to know those two data points. I want to understand the progression through them
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And I can't do service to that until we can do service to that
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And so I think that our next investigation will 100% be walking through
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This period of time because it's not that long Occupy Wall Street didn't go on that long
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It was only a couple of months. It really was but I think that you'll see Alex
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Really really change his positions
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And I think that I think that would be a very
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interesting and robust
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Piece of how little he cares about his principles. I agree. I when we do that investigation
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Let's all agree to come back and listen to this episode where I say
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my prediction is Alex is
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Dismissive of Occupy Wall Street. Mm-hmm then says they have some good points then says they're good and
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Then very quickly says they're evil and then that is my progression that tries to present himself as the real version of it
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Exactly. They've been co-opted
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Yeah, I will I would I would bet a lot of money on that progression
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I think he probably kind of does that a lot which actually should maybe make us suspicious that like in the present Oh, maybe
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He's gonna turn on Trump and then be like I was the real Trump the whole time. Not I'm the real Trump
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Yeah, maybe he is Trump that he doesn't he's not gonna pull that kind of prestige. What if he pulls his mask?
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This is missing impossible. Are you sure this isn't a mission? He will he will be like
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Look
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We didn't leave the party. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that sort of thing
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Like he could he could pull something like that in the future
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It turns out would be right on Trump and Trump wasn't Trump. Yeah, but we were Trump we made Trump which he also says all the time
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Yeah, of course. I don't know. He's got a lot of options and yet at the same time he has nowhere to go
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He's a fascinating human being. Yeah, I know. Uh, so I think I mean Alex is done talking about Occupy Wall Street
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I don't think he has a real position on it in any meaningful way. I mean, it's just a weird
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Stasis he's in you know, he's for the idea of hating the banks. He's against what they stand for
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He hates the idea that the people are being oppressed by the police, right?
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But also doesn't want to defend these dumb commies. He's in a real
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He's in a position. Yeah, which I'm interested to see how it evolves because it has to evolve
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I mean it can't not from this point forward, but we have one one last clip and
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It's just sort of a icing on the cake. It's whole most of this episode really was about Ron Paul
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And about how much Alex wants Ron Paul to be elected president
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How often is it that at the end of our episodes you go most of this episode was the thing that we talked about very tertiarily. Not often.
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So most of this episode was actually about Somali pirates or the who yeah the who um, so
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Alex gets a call at the end of the show and it's a call who's trying to explain to him like
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Ron Paul can't fix everything. Are you fucking delusional?
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Mm-hmm
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And then Alex sets him straight in a way that kind of invalidates a lot of the things he thinks about Donald Trump in present-day
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You and I and most of your listeners know that our vote doesn't count. I've met Ron Paul
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He's a nice guy
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But does he have a standing army a fourth air defense artillery to keep him working if he was to be a president?
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Okay, he'll be injecting ideas ideas are bulletproof and so by him running he we win exposing the whole system
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You just have an attitude one guy's got to fix it all it's never gonna happen
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Ron Paul by running is illustrating all their dirty tricks
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If you have this position that one guy can fix it all you're an idiot
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That's what he's saying. And now in the present-day Donald Trump is the fucking truth this one guy
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Because he's been a sleeper patriot for all his life sleeper patriot, by the way
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He's run for president before 2011 raised by a Nazi. Well, certainly
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Who knows is all just stupid. Anyway, I don't know Joshua
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I appreciate you sending us on this time travel adventure. I don't think that we found
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Really a firm position about Alex Jones and Occupy Wall Street
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But I think we found enough that we will certainly tease this thread
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And find out more in the future indeed
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It's so weird when we do the time travel episodes because unlike with 2009 or with 2015
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We don't have like a fucking six-week exploration into why it is that he's thinking this shit right now
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Time travel episodes are so bananas crazy because we're like does this mean something does it?
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I don't know. It doesn't I I don't know
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I accept I probably missed some context clues, but like a lot of us listen to every episode, but between
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January 1st 2011 and December 31st, 2011
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I knew that he was mostly just talking about Ron Paul's
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Failed campaign. Yeah, that's true. So fair enough. We'll give you that man. I picked up on those clues
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but there might have been some other things that I didn't pick up on and that you know
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Well, we'll just we'll see right up clues. We just figured out Ron's clues
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Well, we'll sweep that up when we get back to a more exhaustive examination of the Occupy Wall Street
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Which we almost certainly will within the next six to twelve years. Yes, it will be next
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2009 so
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We're knowledge fight calm. Also fill your hand calm. How do you find it though?
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You just type it in and hit enter type it into what good Bing
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I could knowledge underscore, right?
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Yeah on iTunes, what have you all that good stuff?
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but for now
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Who among our cast of characters today?
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Has not probably definitely committed murder
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Luke Rudowski is a shithead and all that stuff, but I don't think he's ever killed prove it
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I mean, no, he asked me to prove a negative. See there you go. You can't do it
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But it's a tale as old as time fine
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fine
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Bradley Cooper
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I can't exactly there we go
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I will say that I much like Bradley Cooper probably hasn't killed anybody same is true of Luke Rudowski
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Just an ineffectual
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Propagandist and god bless him. He's never killed anybody
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But once I know anybody who has definitely almost probably technically killed
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I heard this about this guy who he probably totally definitely
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Allegedly killed a guy from home
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Himself. He said it himself. That guy is Alex Jones. Stop
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Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you