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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are, Dan? Yes. Dan? Yes sir.

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How are we gonna live? How are we gonna live? How are we gonna make it?

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What do we do? Like, how are we gonna make it through this?

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No, I need an answer. This is a really important question.

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I really thought you were trying to do like a song lyric, and I was like going through my brain. I'm like, what is this a reference to?

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And the only thing I could come up with is that Daniel Bedingfield song that,

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Gotta get through this, gotta make it through, that techno song.

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You know what, I was thinking more of Danny Schmitz with This Too Shall Pass.

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And Natasha Bedingfield's brother, Daniel Bedingfield, with one hit from the early 2000s.

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I do not know either of those names. Yeah you do, Natasha Bedingfield had that song.

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These words of my own, from my heart flown, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you.

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What is that song? I have never heard that song before in my life.

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That was one of her big hits, and then, I got a pocket, got a pocket for the sunshine, I got a love and a dope and it's all I am.

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How is that a hit? That sounds terrible.

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It was the third hit off that album and I can't remember what it was.

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But then she had that song, Strip Me, if you strip me, strip it all away.

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I already told you, I don't know either name. The songs you're reaching for, I have never heard before in my life.

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Natasha Bedingfield's got some bangers. Sure.

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So this is a podcast where I know a lot about Natasha Bedingfield and her brother, a little bit, and a lot about Alex Jones.

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And I know nothing about any of this stuff. Right, that is where we find our fun.

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Jordan, today we've got a fun-ish, plenty of fun, adventure back into 2009.

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Alright. We are back in the past to pay a visit to Alex Jones and see what he was going on in his world as he descends further into Tea Party adjacent territory and develops narratives that will linger for years to come.

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I think that was a pretty fucking good read right there. That was a great read.

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Off the top of my head, pretty good read. That was a great read.

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But before we get into today's show, I'd like to take a little moment to say thank you to someone who has taken their donation and bumped it up a little bit.

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Alright, alright.

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We appreciate it oh so very much. David L, you are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser, little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you David.

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You know in the context of our, also thank you David, sorry I got distracted immediately.

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In the context of our last episode, in regards to how he feels about accents, how does he feel about a Caribbean black accent?

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Does he give a take on it?

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Oh he doesn't like it.

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He doesn't like it?

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I'm not sure if he doesn't like, I think he thinks Jar Jar Binks' accent is terrible but he's like why would there be something like this in space?

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That's kind of his, there would not be a pseudo-Jamaican out in the galaxy. I know this to be sure.

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Tons of British people though.

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Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Doesn't seem to want to complain about that.

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No, no, no, British people in space, everybody knows that. I watch Doctor Who.

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Yeah.

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It's great. Jodie Whittaker is doing a fantastic job by the way, Dan.

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Okay.

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I know this is important to you.

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Very much.

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Yeah.

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So last we left Alex in the past, we were seeing all these establishments, it almost seems like every single day he has a new weird thing

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that he is using to prove that the government is oppressing the Patriots.

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Yes.

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We had the Mayak Report, which is his biggest piece of proof, which is utter horseshit.

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Which definitely wasn't retracted.

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No, we have all sorts of other little things that pop up that he's trying to

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sort of create a tapestry of oppression for himself and his compatriots.

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Man, you are reading like a motherfucker right now. You are bringing it like Natasha Bedingfield.

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Ah, these words are my own. I'm not even reading off anything. These are just...

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You are just off the dome.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And so it's interesting to see today, we're going to be going over the March 23rd, I believe.

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Yeah, March 23rd, 2009 episode. And what's super fascinating to me is like every single day,

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there is something new that's being added to this larger narrative that sort of, it all branches out

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from the Mayak Report, where he's using it to argue that they're saying that people like me

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and supporters of Ron Paul are terrorists, which is a misunderstanding of the text.

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And so there's just new leaves growing on the branches every day. And we get one today

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that Alex is declaring classical tyranny.

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It's like we're Iraq or Afghanistan. We're occupied.

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But to then get an internal secret army document where they specifically talk about in the Fed in

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Texas, the protest of last November, new ones coming up in April, 38 locations across the

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country. Ron Paul was down in Houston protesting the Fed at a park across the street. His brother,

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Wayne Paul, was with us in Dallas. Wayne Paul did that. And specifically, they had the army

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in plain clothes out watching us now. That's the crime. That is the terrorism. That is the secret

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police. Posse commentatus. Those that don't know what East Germany was like, or communist China

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still today, or what Cuba's like, or Soviet Russia. I mean, this is so anti-freedom. This

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is 180 degrees from freedom. This is classical tyranny.

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So Alex has gotten this document. As opposed to Baroque tyranny.

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When Bach was...

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Or Rococo tyranny.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Alex has got this report. There's an army report that he's got,

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and he's going to get into it in a little bit and we'll discuss it at that point. But suffice

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it to say for now, none of this stuff is true. Except he was hanging out with Ron Paul's brother.

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That's true.

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That is true.

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Wayne Paul.

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Yes. And also, this report doesn't specifically mention the Texas and the Fed thing as much as it

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lists all the cities that they had protests in. Austin is one of them. In a list of 40 cities in

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one paragraph. Alex is trying to claim some sort of thing like they were targeting us. It just

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said Austin in there. So we'll get into the bullshit of this a little bit down the line,

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but we have to take the show as Alex speaks.

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I like him saying, they had plainclothes military out there watching us. You realize that

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the military, they don't always have to wear uniforms. They could just be people sometimes.

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Someone who's in the military could be there to be a part of the protest.

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Yeah, they could just put on clothes like people and just go to the protest. That's fine.

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Or further, I don't trust Alex to know the difference between a plainclothes

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person and a plainclothes military person. I think that he would assume

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anybody who maybe doesn't act the way he does, that's got to be, that's a Fed.

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I will tell you how you can figure it out. The cut of their jib, Dan.

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Sure. Sure. Fair enough.

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If you don't like the cut of their jib, military.

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Definitely.

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Truth.

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So in his next clip, Alex complains that he's the only normal person left.

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And then brags about all sorts of other bullshit about how his sight is the best.

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His sight is the best.

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And then people snicker and joke and go, oh, that's not happening, Alex.

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Just like when we put the Mayak report out, it was fake, I just made it up.

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Like when I had two months before 9-11, I said they're going to attack the World Trade Center,

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get the word out, they're going to blame it on their asset.

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Bin Laden, oh, Alex, shut up, you're crazy.

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It's also Bin Laden said on air, I was going to infiltrate Bohemian Grove.

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People laughed at that and I did it.

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And it isn't so much that I'm some special or wonderful can-do person,

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it's that other people have lost or never learned in their, to have a belief in themselves

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or to realize just what powerful creatures we all are.

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You just don't have any initiative.

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So doesn't that mean you think you're special?

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That I have this initiative.

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But the proof is in the pudding.

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Number one alternative media website, Infowars.com.

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Number one, all the rating services.

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Alexa, you name it.

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You name it.

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What is that?

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Did he define alternative news?

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I hope you bet he didn't.

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I don't know if they do either.

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I don't know.

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Look, who gives a shit?

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He's in the best market.

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He's so good at that.

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The brags that mean nothing.

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We are the number one crazy cuckoo studying website podcast in the world.

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We are.

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We are.

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Prove we're not.

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Are we not?

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I don't know.

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I don't think we are.

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Probably not.

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I think we're the number one Alex Jones studying podcast.

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It depends on if you count Alex Jones's own podcast as an Alex Jones podcast,

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because then we might be number two.

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That's true.

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Might be.

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Might be.

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At this point in time, there's a might that could be involved there.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is just a normal person and you believe yourself to not be as good as a normal person

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and therefore you think he's special, but it's really just sort of like that thing of like

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Jesus saying, you will do what I do and more.

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That's what he's trying to convey to his flock.

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Yeah.

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You can do everything I can do, but I just know I can do it and you guys are blind.

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And, and who, who would even think that Jesus thought he was some sort of special person?

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Sure.

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What makes him different from the rest of us?

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Right, right.

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Like is, is there any difference?

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Also small point.

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The expression is the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

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Uh, but, uh, that's just a small grape.

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Anyway, in this next clip,

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Actually, I do think that people, it's a, it's like a regional colloquialism.

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People do say the proof is in the pudding.

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No, I know, but that's a, that's the wrong, uh, use of the expression.

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It's much like people say it begs the question.

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That's not, that's, that's an inappropriate turn of phrase.

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That begging the question is a logical fallacy.

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You should say it raises the question.

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Same thing.

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The proof is in the pudding doesn't make sense.

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The proof of the pudding is in the eating does make sense.

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Why does, uh, I don't understand how that doesn't make sense.

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The proof is in the pudding.

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What does that mean?

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The proof in that pudding?

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Yes.

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Proof of what?

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It tastes good.

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Or it doesn't taste good.

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Fuck you.

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You got, what do you, what do you use in the eating?

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Wait, you can't assume that the eating is there?

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The proof is in the eating.

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The simple fact that you're talking about the proof being in the pudding

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implies that you are eating it.

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Bullshit.

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What are you doing?

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It's sticking your hand in there to find the key that's going to get you out of prison?

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Could be.

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That could be.

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There's a whole lot of things you can do with pudding.

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Well, I'll tell you how we know.

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You can use it as a salve.

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I'll tell you how we can figure it out.

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How?

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The proof would be in the pudding.

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In the eating of the pudding.

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Anyway, the proof of Alex's lack of principles is in the eating of this next clip,

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where he describes two politicians that are up to some good stuff.

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And these criminals swagger around Washington.

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Everyone bows down to them when they go into the committee hearings.

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They do swagger around in Boston.

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Now people like Senator.

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Oh, what's the Senator?

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We played the clip, Senator Sanders.

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People like Congressman Ron Paul.

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So many others are confronting them and not kissing up to them.

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And their aura of godlikeness is beginning to wear thin.

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So he's got these globalist bankers who are swaggering around.

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And the two people he's saying are standing up to him.

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Them are his favorite person in the world and Bernie Sanders,

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who he knows at this point is a socialist because Ron Paul has been on Alex's show.

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And called him a socialist.

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Yes.

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Yes, Alex knows everything he needs to know to in 2009 be doing his

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I'm Bernie Sanders boo boo boo boo impression.

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But he's counting him as a contemporary of Ron Paul in terms of standing up to the globalists.

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So he's the enemy of my enemy is my friend, Dan.

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But he can't think that because by definition, since he's a socialist, he has to be his enemy.

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Because socialism is really only communism and communism is really just trying to get

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authoritarianism to take hold in our country.

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He can't believe that there are good socialists.

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Yeah, but the enemy of my enemy could be my enemy.

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But it doesn't need to be my enemy right now.

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Could be my friend.

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By default, he has to believe that Bernie Sanders as a socialist is in league with the globalist.

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Well, sure, he's in league with the globalists and the globalist plan is to use the Fed to destroy

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us. But he's controlled opposition, Dan.

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Whereas Ron Paul is uncontrolled opposition.

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That's even worse if he's advocating for someone who's controlled opposition.

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That's even that's I don't even want to unpack that now.

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That's that would be a terrible look for Alex.

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Anyway, it's just weird.

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It's just weird.

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He's a he's an opportunist, opportunist, opportunist, he's an opportunist.

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So here is Alex talking about these army docs that he got.

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And it's really interesting the way he is describing them, because I'm not I'm not

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positive that he's done a deep reading of these documents.

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Oh, you don't think so?

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I almost don't want to say this on air because I don't want.

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Then don't.

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Higher ups to realize what's really going on here.

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But I think they're smart enough to know what's going on.

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So it's no secret.

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That doesn't make sense.

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The way this army document was written.

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On a typewriter.

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Is a form of psy-op rebellion against the government.

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And I'm going to go over this later in the show in detail.

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That's why they use a typewriter.

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It is written with respect.

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It is written for honor of those of us protesting the private Federal Reserve.

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It is written to wake up the military and police to the tyranny of the Federal Reserve.

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But it follows its order to liaison with local FBI and police.

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And to at the bottom of the page, basically say we can be involved in terrorism.

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So this is a reverse double psy-op.

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I don't know the proper term of triple cross on the enemy here.

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All right.

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Counter counter coup, Dan.

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Yeah.

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So I guess we'll talk about this because this is maybe like 12 minutes into the episode or so.

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And Alex doesn't actually get into talking about this story until about the two hour point.

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Of course.

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He just talks vaguely about what it is and doesn't actually.

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Well, it's a reverse double psy-op.

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Right.

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So the document that Alex is talking about is a double psy-op.

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Right. So the document that Alex is referring to on this show is a document

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titled Force Protection Advisory 09-01, dated November 17th, 2008.

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That is an exciting title.

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Yeah.

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It's really funny that Alex says the report was written with respect to the Patriots

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and that it was a triple cross on the establishment.

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Because if you take one look at the report, you can tell exactly why he thinks that.

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The report says things like, quote,

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the November 22nd protests are intended as a kickoff of an ongoing campaign

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to educate and organize the public and take concerted action.

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Only the conscious action of we the people can save the nation from

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ruin, plunder, and total socialist tyranny.

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The thing is...

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What happens next in the document?

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It's very clear from the context that this is a report quoting from endthefed.us,

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which is linked at the end of the same paragraph.

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Oh, OK.

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So all of the stuff that Alex is saying is like, this is written with respect to the Patriots.

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It's stuff that they took off the end of the Fed website to give context to what these protests are.

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OK.

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The report is super fair to the end of the Fed people

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and just describes them as they describe themselves, mostly through quoting.

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The only purpose this serves is written out in the first paragraph.

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Quote,

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This message provides situational awareness and recommended mitigation measures.

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All it is is a report that's going out to provide the awareness of the situation of this

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to people who may be in cities where these protests are going on.

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Alex is insisting that this document proves that there was targeted harassment campaigns

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from the army regarding his end the Fed activities.

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But I failed to see proof of that in this document at all.

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It does tell those reading to, quote,

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be aware of their environment at all times and it advises them not to retaliate to verbal assaults.

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It says that commanders should have relationships with local law enforcement to understand threats

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because anytime there are large gatherings like this, there are threats,

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not just from the protesters, but towards them as well.

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So these sorts of large gatherings of people are things that are absolutely things

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that you should have on your radar.

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You know, it's not necessarily all that weird for that.

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The report doesn't say anything specific about the army going to surveil the protests at all.

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So I wanted to get a little more information on this type of report.

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I found a few others of this same variety, the Force Protection Advisory,

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and they shed light on exactly what this report is.

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From a 2016 Force Protection Advisory, quote,

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this advisory is to provide situational awareness for all DoD personnel

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who might find themselves in the vicinity of any of these protests, planned or spontaneous.

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There are planned protests coming up and the Navy want to remind all Department of Navy service

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members, civilian employees, and their family members are reminded that large gatherings

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of this nature can turn violent in a moment's notice.

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These documents are called Force Protection Advisories because they offer advice on

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protection of the forces.

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It has nothing to do with troops being sent out to watch the Patriots.

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It has to do with what potential dangers large groups of people coming together could create.

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If you read this document correctly, there's zero indication that this was written for

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any army members who are being sent to surveil the protests and a very strong indication

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that it's about preparing members and communities for a possible worst case scenario.

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Things like telling people not to retaliate to verbal assault is for army members who

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might happen to be at the protests organically.

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Right. Things like the report advising commanders

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to use random anti-terrorism measures is in reference to operations on and around army

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bases, not at the protests.

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They're talking about routines that the army engages in on the bases in these cities, not

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like on the field out at the out of the protests.

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Wait, so what they're saying is that rather than stick to the routine, you should randomize

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it. Yes.

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That way they can't observe it and then plan based upon your routine.

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Yes. During the circumstances there, like no matter what, if there's a large protest

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in your city, then what you should do is randomize some of the routines in order so no one can

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plan anything.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's a purely defensive strategy that's being, it's clear in context that this isn't

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something that could be done at the protest at all.

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So they're trying to say that they don't want any plain clothes, non-military people

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surveilling them.

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So it is a double, triple cross.

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Well, there's that for sure. But then there are also like all of the possible plain clothes

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people that this could relate to would not be on duty.

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Otherwise, otherwise known as people.

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Right. The report goes on to say, quote, report all potential protest activities to the army

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reserve operations center. But this isn't telling people to report all protesting. That

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would be fucking absurd. It's saying that if you're in the army and you're going to

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the protest, tell HR. That sort of thing.

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Yeah.

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That's all that this report is. I've looked at all like other reports of this nature.

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Alex is just taking basically a human resources memo, finding the little pieces like, oh,

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it says anti-terrorist measures. They think we're terrorists. That sort of thing. He's

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taken all of it out of context in order to add another leaf to his tree of government

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depression. It's pathetic. It's crazy.

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I would be interested as to whether or not you would want to report it to HR. You know

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what I'm saying? If you are in the military and you're going to one of the women's

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marches, would you want the brass to know? You know what I'm saying? It seems like there

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was a pretty aggressive anti-dissent campaign within the military.

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I feel like there might be something to that. The only way I look at it that I think it

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would be productive is like, let's say you are at one of those protests and something

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does pop off.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Then having some sort of like, I was there of my own volition or something like that.

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That could be useful paperwork to have on record.

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For sure.

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But I'm not enlisted. I don't know enough about the bureaucracy of human resource departments

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for the military.

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I don't know much about the bureaucracy of human resource departments anywhere.

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Yeah. I don't know what you would get out of it or what it would help mitigate the potential

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problems of, but I do see a vague picture in my head of why you might, if you were the

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higher ups, you might want to know, okay, some of our people were there.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, I don't know.

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I'm just, I think it's just an interesting question as to whether or not somebody would

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get a fucking code red order on them. You know what I'm saying?

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I think that there are things in place where that would be discriminatory if you were somehow

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punished for going to a protest.

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Oh, absolutely.

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But I.

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And I'm sure that nobody has ever been punished.

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Look, I don't fucking know, man. We can't unpack that.

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Yeah.

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We have no data on that.

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I know. I know. I'm just, I'm just spit balling in with the knowledge I have of human beings

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and the way they act.

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And institutions.

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Yeah.

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But what we do know is that this story is whack and the document doesn't back up what Alex is

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going to go on to say later in the show. But that doesn't stop Alex from telling you that

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he has been harassed by the military.

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The plainclothes military.

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All the time.

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All the time.

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These are some whack fucking stories.

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But when I first had run-ins with army intelligence,

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it was threatening two different events where I'd walk out to my car in a parking lot and

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there'd be guys in suits, 32, 35 years old, you know, the special forces bearing, and

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they would make little threatening comments and tell me I was being watched.

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What's a special forces bearing?

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You know, they have the shoulders back, they've got a jib cut.

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Posture.

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It's all about jib cut.

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All right.

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Hey, Alex, how you doing? I heard you got a special team. You're planning something,

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you know, we want to help you. What are you planning? You're going to do something violent?

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And I'm like, no, no, my team. When I say I'm thinking my team,

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talking about my people that I work with.

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I don't see any reason to believe these are special intelligence military people at all.

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These could just be some people fucking with him. If the story is even true.

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Or it could just be somebody who's regular. Who's like,

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hey, Alex, are you going to do anything violent?

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Possibly.

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You have gone to this bar before and you fucked some shit up. So, hey.

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Or it's completely made up.

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Or it's completely made up.

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No, we're just checking that out. We're just.

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There was another case where an FBI agent showed up.

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Hi, I'm from the FBI.

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Breathing heavy, about six foot five.

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That was like professional bike riders. The FBI guys.

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He was that type.

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So Lance Armstrong shows up.

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And I say the FBI is criminal and murdered the people at Waco.

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And I demand you call in or if I'm not a liar and you're not criminals that you show up down here.

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And sure enough, here's this guy at the door.

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Hi.

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He's got the unmarked FBI car out front.

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But he was literally huffing and puffing telling me the FBI wasn't all bad.

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And I said, are you FBI?

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And he said, well, I'm not going to answer that.

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So, you know, I have that case too.

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These are not good stories.

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These are real soft in terms of I have been fucked with by intelligence agents.

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Because I don't see any evidence that these are actual incidents.

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Or if they are, they're the weakest shit ever.

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Yeah.

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Why would you even say I'm not going to answer that?

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If you're driving an unmarked FBI car that you can see.

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And you're huffing and puffing.

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Are you from the FBI?

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I can't answer that.

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So there's one more story Alex has, and this is also like, I don't, I don't, this doesn't

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work for me.

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This doesn't, this doesn't do it for me.

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But, but, and another time in a Target parking lot, they got very threatening.

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Pulled up behind me, blocked me in.

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I got out.

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They got around me.

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And just told me basically that if I ever got out of line, I was dead.

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So, you know, this is the real world.

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This is...

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Now hold on.

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I'm going to go get a TV and groceries.

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The top of crap I deal with.

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I deal with every day knowing this is going on.

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What were you doing in that Target parking lot, Alex?

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That's what I want to know.

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And that's when you realize just how real all of this is, is when you're in the fight

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and things like this happen over and over again.

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What happens over and over again?

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Hey, plain glows, FBI officers who are clear, well hidden.

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They are, as, as we all know, the FBI is brilliant at...

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You know, there's cameras in all Target parking lots.

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Yeah, a little bit.

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I guess he, I'm guessing he got into a fight with somebody who cut him off in a, or maybe

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they cut him off or something like that in the Target parking lot.

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Right.

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I'm going to get you, man.

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Yeah, recontextualize it as like the military attacking him or something.

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I don't know.

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Anyway, I think that if Alex Jones really did have really frightening stories, they'd

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be better.

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But also, I think because these are so bad, they might be real stories.

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Right.

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But not necessarily government people harassing him.

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And he's not thrown in a ton of details like he normally does.

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Yeah, the huffing and the puffing is weird.

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And they all look like professional bikers.

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And bicyclists.

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Bike riders?

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Like bicyclists.

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That's what he thinks?

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That's what I took away from it.

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What does a professional bicyclist look like?

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Svelte.

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A lot of...

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Six foot five?

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I didn't know they were that tall.

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Classic.

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Pleiadians and bikers are very...

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Very tall.

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Oh, all right.

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I did not know that.

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Yep.

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Important to know.

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I assumed they were like shorter, like jockeys.

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I don't know why I assumed that.

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Very, very...

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With gigantic thighs.

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Yeah.

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So, we've got this army document that Alex is incorporating into his narrative.

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We have the big Mayak document that is sort of the overarching big...

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That's the varsity narrative.

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Yeah.

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And then in the last couple episodes, we've also had him say that this mandatory service

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bill has passed, which he escalated into now it's a draft, which we saw that on the last

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episode, which is complete bullshit.

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He's just making that up.

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Nope.

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And then the DOD directive 1404.10, which he thinks means that they can just put you

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into service and send you overseas for the Department of Defense, but that's just about

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their civilian employees in the Defense Department in emergency essential personnel things.

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Now, what's interesting is in this next clip, what he does is he ties them all together

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as if they're all talking about the same thing and uses it to make one grand narrative.

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They passed the draft in the House last Thursday.

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No, they didn't.

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National draft is passed.

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I should be yelling and screaming and hyperventilating over that.

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I'm not.

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I've been...

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Okay.

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So, aren't you just proving it's not real?

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Agency to prepare the feasibility of force compulsory service.

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And then you read the Nexus tie-in a month ago...

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What does that mean?

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Defense Department issuance.

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The Nexus tie-in?

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That's a good book.

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Last time on the show, I read that army directive, a Pentagon directive, and it says with the

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new million person force that the Pentagon will direct whether they serve domestically

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or overseas in support of combat operations.

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So, this is a giant pool to suppress and control all our towns and cities and states here,

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but also in third world nations that get invaded, blasted to daylights, their infrastructure

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destroyed, then hundreds of thousands of little bureaucrats come in behind the military to

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then take over the society.

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Hundreds of thousands?

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But they don't call it a draft.

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They just call it compulsory service.

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Mandatory.

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I mean, this is past the House, ladies and gentlemen.

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This is going to the Senate and they're set to pass it.

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It passed by a huge majority in the House of Representatives.

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They are really trying a Nazi-slash-Soviet-style takeover.

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It's really happening.

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Everything that was foretold, everything they set up was all in preparation of this.

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Now we're here.

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Foretold by who?

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Now the military is tracking me and following me.

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It's openly being admitted to.

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John G?

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So, you see there, all of these pieces coming together.

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This lie about the draft is how they're going to get a lot of people in and the DoD directives.

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They're going to send them to be little hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats overseas or something,

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which I don't understand what goal that achieves.

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Also, they'd be woefully inefficient in any kind of position.

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Why would you want to draft bureaucrats?

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I don't fucking know.

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He wouldn't.

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Alex is just, he's lying.

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They're sending hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats in there to fill out paperwork.

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That's what they need, Dan, in order to take Iraq over.

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They need the paperwork.

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And we all know that plainclothes military men can't fill out paperwork.

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That's not what they're for.

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So we got to get the bureaucrats in there.

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He's just found little pieces that seem like they might go together.

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And he's just taken a little mallet and jammed the jigsaw puzzle pieces together.

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And it's a shameful display because it's all bullshit.

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He has made the technicolor dream code of propaganda.

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It's super fascinating to take the time that you need to go through these things like we

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have so we can see all of the pieces that are each individualized come together to make

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like a Voltron kind of lie.

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Yeah, no, it's nice.

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It's interesting because I don't think, I don't know.

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It's like a hand-me-down quilt where every member of the family adds their own little patch.

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Sure, it's taking the amount of time and paying the amount of attention needed to be like,

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oh, Alex, this is all lies.

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What are you doing?

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This is such nonsense.

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So in this next clip, he has some complaints about Obama that sound really funny in hindsight.

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Then Obama goes on 60 Minutes last night.

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I watched it.

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And he says, part of his permanent campaign, scores of speeches a day and appearances.

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He says, look, you got to do this or we're going to have a depression.

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It's really funny that he's complaining about Obama having a permanent campaign.

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When he talks so glowingly of all of Trump's rallies and how they're so great.

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Yep, permanent campaign.

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And Trump is not going to stop.

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Yeah, yeah, he's on a permanent campaign.

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Also, dude, if this is 2009, we're still in the depression caused by the last guy.

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True, starting to make progress.

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Yeah, we're not we're not starting a new depression.

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That's what Alex thinks.

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Ah, I gotcha.

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So one of the other pieces of Alex's bullshit narratives about government depression was on,

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I believe, was on the last 2009 episode about all the fears about what's going on in New York.

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Now, he doesn't get into the Albany ammunition story, but he does get back to Schenectady.

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And I like the Schenectady angle.

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Once again, he mispronounces the name of the city and then he makes a completely unfounded claim.

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Whatever.

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If you want to live in denial.

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You know, Friday, we started covering how Schenectady, New York.

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I'm not pronouncing that right.

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I don't have it in front of me.

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No!

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Schenectady.

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Schenectady.

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Schenectady.

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I just I can't keep track of all Schenectady.

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You're getting worse.

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You said, oh, well, we're going to declare martial law, Obama, you know, thinks it's a good idea.

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We post the mainstream news article out of Albany and people say it's not real.

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Meanwhile, it's the top story on Drudge, or at least it was an hour ago.

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I just.

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So, I mean, that's so unfounded.

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They decided they're going to do martial law because Obama said it was a good idea.

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When did Obama say it was a good idea?

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I don't think he's related to that story at all.

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I don't think anybody even asked him.

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No, but the mayor of Schenectady is a smo.

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He's the special mayor of Obama.

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Oh, that's right.

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So he's probably got a back channel communication.

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Undoubtedly.

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And Alex probably has a way to tap into it.

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Certainly.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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That makes sense.

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But that's all bullshit.

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No.

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It's all complete bullshit.

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No, come on.

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Schenectady would never lie to us like that.

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They didn't.

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Alex is.

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So a lot of this episode ends up being an interview with Kevin Booth,

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who is a filmmaker of note.

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He has made a number of documentary-ish films.

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Some of them were.

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Documentary-ish.

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Sure.

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I mean, I only say that because he works with Alex Jones on some stuff.

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Right, right.

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But he is also the guy who was a very close associate of Bill Hicks's.

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And he's one of the reasons that a lot of people believe that Alex Jones is Bill Hicks.

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Gotcha.

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Is because Kevin Booth worked with Bill Hicks on making a movie about the Waco church.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, and then now he's involved with Alex Jones.

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He appears on Alex's show all the time.

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Right.

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I believe there was a time or two that he's actually called Alex Bill,

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but I think some of that might be trolling or something like that.

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I'm not entirely sure.

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I don't really care about that stuff, but.

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It's a conspiracy.

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So he's on because he's making, or he's working with,

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I believe there's a reality show that they're going to make,

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but I don't think it actually ends up happening.

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But Kevin Booth.

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No, they wound up making it.

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It was Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

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Mm hmm.

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Kevin Booth is working with Freeway Ricky Ross.

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Okay.

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Who is the real Rick Ross.

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Right.

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Who was the guy who brought crack into Los Angeles.

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Yeah, Rick Ross.

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Call me Big Boss.

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Right.

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He's the guy who was working with the CIA, apparently.

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I'm not entirely, I don't know all the details,

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but I do believe that probably he had some sort of,

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I don't think he's making up everything.

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Right.

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Reagan did it.

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Yeah.

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So he was a huge crack dealer and then he went to prison

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and then he got out and he sued Rick Ross.

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I didn't know he actually sued Rick Ross.

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Oh yeah.

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Why did he sue Rick Ross?

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Because he's using his name.

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So he has a patent on his name.

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He's got a copyright on his name.

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He's crack dealing Ricky Ross.

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I don't think he ended up winning the lawsuit.

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I doubt it.

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I'm not entirely sure.

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But then he shows up on like Rogan's podcast sometimes.

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Uh huh. I've watched a couple of his appearances.

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He seems like an interesting guy.

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Yeah.

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But he's still in prison at this point.

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And so Kevin Booth is coming on talking about how they're going to make this reality show.

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And one of the things they keep saying is like,

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Ricky Ross is going to get out of prison.

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We're going to make this reality show.

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And one of the parts of it is in the first year he's making this show,

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he's going to make a million dollars.

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And so he can show people how to make that million dollars because he's such a hustler.

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He's going to do it without doing any crimes or anything like that.

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He's just going to show you that he's just going to hustle.

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You too.

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If you hustle hard enough, can make a million.

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I don't think that show ever.

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He's just going to hustle from everything.

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I can tell from looking at IMDb pages and everything.

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I don't think that reality is going to be made possibly because they tried.

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And then he failed to make a million dollars hustle hard enough.

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I'm not sure.

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I have no idea.

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I don't want to disparage him because I don't really know enough, but Kevin Booth is on.

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And he's brought on some associates of, uh, Rick Ross.

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And, uh, man, Alex is so disappointed because he just wants to talk about how the government

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selling drugs and Rick Ross is going to come out and he's going to expose everything.

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He's just going to hustle.

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He gets into a conversation here with, uh, Rick Ross's friend Straw.

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Rick Ross has a friend named Straw.

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He does.

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That actually does sound like he has a standing in the lawsuit against Rick Ross.

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It's possible.

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So this, uh, this is where the interview starts.

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My friends were named silly first.

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This is where the interview starts to be very clear.

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It's like, Oh, Alex is not getting what he wants out of this.

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Are you, um, worried about your safety, uh, being at the tip of the spear of this whole thing?

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No, of course not.

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As a matter of fact, uh, as far as the whole Ricky Ross, Tran, he's trying to, um,

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bring this to Russian corruption thing.

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The upfront is really not what he's doing.

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What Rick is trying to do is move on with his life.

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And that's basically what we want.

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We're getting these little operations together.

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Not to, um, not to bring forth whatever that occurred with him in the past.

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As far as this corruption goes, or they can look forward to the future as far as correct

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would be for the youth and for the, for the gas that's incarcerated.

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Certainly getting out.

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Okay.

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Well, tell us, tell us what freeway enterprises.

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Sure, sure.

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I understand.

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Uh, your phone's coming out of that there.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So he goes, straw goes on to be like, we're not trying to expose corruption.

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We're trying to make a multi like media outfits.

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We can make a TV show.

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All right.

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So, so he's going to, he's going to expose the CIA, right?

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Nah, he's just going to lower the rate of recidivism.

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He's trying to just make a TV show that where he shows that there's another way for people

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trying to be a positive social influence.

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Alex is so disappointed.

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Right, right, right.

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Tell me about your business.

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There's another, I can't remember what her name, but there's another guest who's a friend

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of Rick Ross's who is also has like a radio show and she is equally disappointing to Alex.

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And it's just like, fuck, I really wanted to talk about the CIA running drugs.

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Of course.

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And you guys are not getting, oh, oh, oh, you want to talk about what?

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Creating a positive environment for people.

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Boring.

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That's not what this show is about.

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This show is about fear.

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Right.

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So, um, Alex gives this disclaimer because he needs to take control of the narrative

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because he, before they came on, he'd sort of promised this was all going to be about

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exposing the CIA and all that shit.

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Of course.

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And so he says this.

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The main reason you're on today is to try to put attention to the fact that he needs

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to be let out of prison and is supposed to be released.

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And I think it's important then that we also explained for him to get out, that he's just

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trying to create an anti-drug movement and employ people through a media system to do

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this.

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So I think, you know, uh, that, that, that makes it a lot safer for him to be released

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from prison and that the establishment won't be going after him.

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I just know that.

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So he's basically saying, I know you guys are saying this because you got to keep.

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But the reality is what I'm saying.

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Yeah.

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So that's great.

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Just take control of the narrative away from these people who are boring you out.

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Guys, do one pre-interview.

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So this doesn't happen like this.

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You think?

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What are you doing?

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So now this is interesting because, uh, Kevin Booth comes back on the phone and he starts

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talking about the interviews that he's had with Rick Ross and the documentary that he's

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made and in doing so he references somebody that is anachronistic with Alex Jones's world

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at this time.

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Yeah, no, absolutely.

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And, and like in my film too, you know, uh, it was said that, uh, by Robert Steele, who's

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on your show all the time, the CIA operative, who basically is just saying that, you know,

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perhaps Ricky didn't make enough bribes on the local level through, through various lawyers

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that could channel the bribes into various politicians.

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Yeah.

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So he, Kevin Booth references Robert David Steele and says that he's on Alex's show all

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the time.

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I've not heard any appearances that Robert David Steele has made at this point, but this

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is crazy because Robert David Steele is the guy who last year on Alex's show said that

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the globalists were kidnapping kids and making them work on Mars colonies.

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And then Alex Jones got really mad at him and said he was working a psy-op on his show.

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So I didn't know that he was a guy who went back 10 years on Alex's show.

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I thought he was kind of a newer addition to the stable, especially considering that

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Robert David Steele shows up all over the place.

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He's been on project Camelot before.

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So I thought like, Oh, he's a new wacky dude on the scene.

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And Alex mistrusted him and he started talking Mars colonies on the show and he burned Alex

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and Alex burned him.

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Right.

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So I thought that was the case.

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I had no idea.

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The guy who's been in Alex's camp for years.

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That's crazy.

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It's interesting.

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This is very exciting.

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It's interesting that he was previously far more reasonable in saying that you can bribe

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local government officials.

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Well, that's certainly that's certainly a smaller claim than Mars bases.

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It would be fun if that was also part of his Marba.

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Well, they're taking these kids, but not if you bribe your local law enforcement.

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Right, right.

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That's the trick.

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Grease the Palm.

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Yeah, into space.

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Then you won't have to deal with his new Rick Ross.

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Yeah.

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So that's crazy.

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I find it very interesting and I'm very excited to find some Robert David Steele appearances

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from 2009 and stuff.

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See what kind of whack shit he was spilling back then.

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Yeah, because we didn't see any in 2015, right?

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Oh no, I don't think so.

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Towards 2016, I believe he started coming in with his like, the vote is going to be

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rigged.

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We need to unrig the vote.

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Me and Cynthia McKinney, or we need to get in a room with Trump immediately.

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Alex, get me in a room with Trump.

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Yeah.

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Get me in a room with Trump where there's no secret service around.

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And Alex is like, I don't know if I can do that.

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On account of, no.

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I don't think I can get in a room with Trump.

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I don't think anybody would want to do that, except for Putin, of course.

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So yeah, he was showing up a little bit later in sort of the lead up to the election in

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2016.

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But yeah, he didn't factor heavily into 2015 stuff.

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And like I said, I haven't seen any sign of him in 2009 yet, but my radar is up.

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Could be that Booth just never listens to the show.

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But if that's the case, then he has to have some reason to believe that Alex knows Robert

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David Steele.

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That's true, that's true.

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Which is an even more interesting proposition, and that is that he knows that Robert David

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Steele doesn't go on Alex's show, but he's a source of Alex's information.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's a possibility.

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He's a consort.

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Right, that's a possibility.

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I'm not entirely sure, but we will see what the future holds.

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Now, Alex has spoken to two of Freeway Ricky Ross's associates and found them to be not

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very interesting at all.

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They were weighed, they were measured, and they've been found wanting.

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And so Kevin Booth has a third associate named Hakeem, who he wants Alex to talk to, and

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it goes a little differently.

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Hakeem is going to jump in.

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Oh yeah.

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All right.

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But a lot of us were only aware of the Iran country affairs as far as the U.S. buying

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weapons or selling weapons to Iran and using the money to support the Contras.

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Half the Congress cut out our funding when they found out the operations we were running.

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Well, now we're talking.

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Hell yeah.

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Hell yeah, now we're getting into it, baby.

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You just pulled me up out of the doldrums.

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So Hakeem was working special operations in Central America and had some fun adventures.

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Hard rice, soft rice, fighting the Contras.

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Alex takes it all at face value.

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And you can hear it there that like, now we're talking.

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Oh yeah, oh baby.

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He talks to him for like 15 minutes and nothing of it is notable, but it is notable that Alex

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has no idea who this dude is.

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He's using a single name to protect his anonymity.

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And so you can only take these things with a grain of salt, you know?

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And Alex is reporting it as like, oh God, I want to get you back on the show.

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This is amazing.

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This is veritas.

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This is the most amazing stuff.

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And it's got to feel bad if you're straw sitting on the other end of the building.

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Oh, I could have been that guy.

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I could have been that guy.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I just, I was talking about what I thought was a good thing and I was way wrong.

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I was way wrong.

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This should have gone the way of the Iran Contra.

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Well, you take your shots.

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Sometimes you miss.

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Well played Hakeem.

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So he talks to him.

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He gets very excited and that's kind of the end of it.

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And there's not a whole lot to it, even though it takes up a lot of this episode.

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It takes up so much time.

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Like a lot of it is Alex being bored by those two.

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And then a lot of it is him like sort of trying to enlist Hakeem to be one of his sources.

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And you know, it is what it is.

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It's an Alex Jones segment.

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He wants to forcefully conscript him into his Infowars army.

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Right, with a DoD director.

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Yep.

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So this leads to the, about the two hour point in the show where he finally gets into the

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army report.

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And what he does is he lies a lot about it.

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He just says that it says things that it absolutely doesn't say.

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Basically people protesting the Fed, the Liberty Committee, Ron Paul could be terrorist and

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maybe planning violent attacks.

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And it tells the police how to be careful, how the FBI to be careful with the armies

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there to support them, dealing with us that we may basically decide to attack.

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It tells our officers, be very careful.

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These people are deadly dangerous, basically.

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And you can read that report.

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It is up on Infowars.com and prisonplanet.com.

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Here's the report.

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You can see the order sheet for covering the Houston and Dallas and San Antonio.

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Show folks the final page, please.

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On the final page, the third page, you can read the officer's names, the orders.

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You can.

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And the only order that is on there on that third page is.

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Write this report.

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Of course.

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It's just release this report.

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That is it.

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That's the order?

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It doesn't say any of the things that he's saying there.

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It doesn't even imply any of the things.

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Yeah, I was going to say basically is carrying a lot of weight on that sentence right there.

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The idea that like they're deadly dangerous doesn't say anything like that.

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Anything like that.

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Also, Ron Paul is a sitting congressman at this time, right?

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Yeah.

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So, so the army wrote a report and released it that said a sitting U S Congressman could

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be a terrorist.

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I don't believe that.

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I don't think they would do that.

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I think that would go poorly.

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I don't believe Ron Paul is even mentioned in the army report.

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I'm not entirely sure.

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And if it is, it's only that these, um, you know, like these protests are inspired.

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Yeah.

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Once, once again, it's like, uh, Hey, Ron Paul, if you get a lot of supporters of Ron

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Paul in one place, it's not even that.

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It's not even that.

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It's not, it's not even that.

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Uh, so he's lying about what this report says.

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And then he lies even more about like little specifics.

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Commanders are remanded at the time.

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They're remanders actually.

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It says reminded to exercise their physical security plan, including all annexes.

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That means sub directives with weapons.

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No, it doesn't.

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Annexes means sub directives with weapons.

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He's just making that up.

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What is a sub directive with weapons?

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So a regular directive has its own sub directive?

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Sure.

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Well, why not just put it in the regular directive?

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You need sub directives.

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Got to organize.

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Fair enough.

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None of that stuff means anything.

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And then this next clip, he, he's claiming that basically this report is calling him

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a terrorist.

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Commanders will ensure that random anti-terrorism measures program is conducted as an integral

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part of their daily operations.

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See, we're terrorists.

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Ram is particularly important due to the static nature of our forces and mission, which often

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result in the establishment of identifiable routes.

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Man, they got to sneak when they come there.

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Cause we're so dangerous.

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We may attack them.

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We're seeing how, see, Oh, they want to attack you.

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Oh, they want to go after you.

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It doesn't say routes.

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It says routines.

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Alex is completely lying about the word in there.

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Cause he misread it.

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And I was going to say he, I don't think he was meant to, I mean, I know he meant to

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imply that, but I don't think he can read that word.

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Also, Hey, dumb, dumb, what does static mean?

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Non-moving.

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No.

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So whenever they're talking about the static nature of their operations, that's because

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they're talking about at like an army base.

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Yeah, but their sub directive is about the movement that they're going to do on this

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movement.

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If they were at like some sort of engagement surveilling a protest, that wouldn't be static.

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That would be active.

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Eh.

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That would be changing.

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Well, they're not allowed to move from their post.

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Monitoring the, uh,

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That would make them stick out a little bit.

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They're just standing.

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That would be like a cartoon.

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That'd be mighty suspicious.

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They're literally in the bushes, just staring out at them with binoculars.

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Yeah.

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So you get the sense there, uh, what Alex is bringing to the table.

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That is some, some weak shit.

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Yeah.

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He's just, he's hinging.

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Bring back Hakeem.

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I was, I was liking him.

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He's hinging on like words, like routes instead of routines to say, Oh, they need different

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routes because they can't, they got to sneak in because they think we're going to attack

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them and stuff like that.

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Just read the right word, Alex.

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Yeah.

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So that's the level that he's coming with, which is real fucked up.

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So the rest of the show pretty much is Alex talking to Alan Watt.

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Again, not Alan Watts.

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No, not Alan Watts.

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Alan Watt.

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Alan Watt, who is also suing Rick Ross for stealing his name.

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Yes.

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Uh, he is a Supreme New World Order weirdo.

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And, uh, he is like, I just, I, I, I listened to him and I'm just like, I get, I've seen

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that blog, man.

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I know, I know, I know.

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You're just basing this on, on utter nonsense.

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And so most of it is kind of not worth going over at all, but there's a couple of clips

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in particular, this one clip here where it's just like, you are lying.

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You are absolutely willfully lying and I can prove it.

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In fact, as I say, uh, when you go in to the writings of the big think tanks that work

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for this global system on behalf of the elite, like the club of Rome, they said that democracy

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was just too cumbersome.

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They wanted collectivism under collectivism.

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You're looking at China.

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So you are not looking at China under collectivism.

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He is making the argument that the club of Rome doesn't want democracy.

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This comes from a misreading of the publication that was put out by the club of Rome called

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the first global revolution.

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We, we've talked a little bit about the club of Rome in the past and how one of their sort

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of guiding principles is that they don't look at problems as problems.

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They look at them as little pieces of a larger problem.

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That's called the problematic.

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Yes.

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That is sort of the, everything is interconnected and trying to deal with one problem without

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looking at the consequences that the dealing with that problem would have on other problems.

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Yes, exactly.

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And so in their book, the, uh, that they put out the first global revolution, they, uh,

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uh, uh, in the, they have a chapter called the vacuum.

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That's the chapter five.

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It's a reference to the expression nature abhors a vacuum.

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Ah, the main point of the chapter is that there are a lot of forces at play that are

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hurting social cohesion.

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Thus there's a vacuum there.

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And if we're not careful, something destructive like extremism or a deck dictator could end

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up filling the void among the sources of this declining cohesion.

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The public trust in government has been replaced by indifference, if not hostility, largely

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born out of a recognition that our government is not equipped to deal with modern problems.

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Elected leaders lack the understanding of complex issues the planet faces.

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Political parties have become primarily concerned with winning elections and playing team sports

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and democracy as a whole is just not designed to respond quickly to immediate concerns.

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For example, if you respond to a dictator invading their neighbor's country, uh, uh,

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that requires debate generally, or at least it did when they wrote this back in 1991.

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Uh, and by the time you've done debating, that dictator may have killed thousands of

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people.

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That's a very difficult process that democracy isn't perfectly equipped to handle.

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Now the report is not advocating for abandoning democracy.

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In fact, they say very clearly quote, the crisis in the contemporary democratic system

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must not be allowed to serve as an excuse for rejecting democracy.

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So while they talk about the difficulties that, uh, like dealing with modern problems

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have when you have a democracy, they're very explicit about the idea of like, that doesn't

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mean that we should get rid of democracy.

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In fact, we should find ways to supplement, uh, the, the public sector and things like

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that, the private sector in order to compliment the democracy that we have so we can preserve

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that political system while dealing with these new modern challenges that we never thought

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we would have to face.

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So basically he is specifically lying because he knows if he's read the club of Rome, that

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that quote, the crisis in the contemporary democratic system must not be allowed to serve

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as an excuse for rejecting democracy.

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He knows that's in there.

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He should.

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He's just straight up lying.

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That's a lie.

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That is a lie.

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Yeah, but these guys always think that those are like coded languages.

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So it's like they're, they're covering their ass with that little stuff.

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Like they're signaling to the people who are believers that this is what needs to be done.

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And then they're hiding behind this one last sentence to say that that's not what needs

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to be done.

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You know, like they're, they're always, they're always doing that.

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Like that's always the, the defense.

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There's like, Oh, they were just putting that in there.

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Then that's fine to do.

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But like you have to, you should acknowledge that.

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You would think you should acknowledge that if you're like, they clearly say they don't

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want democracy.

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Now in the text, they do say we should preserve democracy, but they're lying.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, that argument is weak.

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That way it doesn't weaken your argument.

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It almost bolsters your argument.

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No, it doesn't.

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Not if you're Alan Watt, because then you're like all of this hinges on my interpretation

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of what exactly they're lying about in the text.

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When if you look at it through the prism of wanting to preserve democracy, everything

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makes sense.

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If you look at through my crazy worldview, this one quote sticks out like a sore thumb.

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Right.

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I mean, I mean, I don't mean bolster it in terms of a, a, a quality of argument.

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I mean, bolster it in terms of the people that you are speaking to, because they, what

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they want is for you to lie about the club of Rome documents and by pointing out where

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you think the club of Rome documents are lying, you only like further inoculate them from

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actually reading the documents because already now you're saying, well, whatever it is, they

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say that, that says not what I'm saying is, is a lie.

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Right.

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You know, like it makes more sense to acknowledge it and bring it out.

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And then sort of, yeah, I don't know.

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Well, none of it makes sense.

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No, but I get what you're saying in that.

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If you look at it at that angle, that kind of makes sense.

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But all I care about is that Alan Watts a fucking liar.

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He is a fucking liar.

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So they get to another story that's really interesting.

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And I want to see if you can tell what this is about.

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Okay.

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That's not a good associated press today.

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And you'd think you were living in communist Russia to hear this Hillary, the movie now

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showing at Supreme court.

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And you read the article.

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It says the Supreme court will decide if you're allowed to make a film criticizing government

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leaders and that it is under election law now to make a film criticizing any elected

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official.

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Do you know what this is about?

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Wait, was this one of those, uh, like project Veritas style things?

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Well, I mean, it is a hit piece and shit, but that's not necessary.

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It's not project Veritas.

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I vaguely remember this, this like, uh, uh, I vaguely remember some sort of like bullshit,

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uh, documentary style thing.

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That's like, I can't remember it.

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This is Citizens United.

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Oh, this is Citizens United.

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That's the group.

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Fuck.

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That's the group that made Hillary the movie.

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And it went to the Supreme court and the issue at hand wasn't a free speech argument so

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much as it was, should you have to reveal your donors and who funded this movie, if

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it comes out and is clearly a political ad.

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And the Supreme court found you have free speech and you get, it's just been applied

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across the board there.

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Great.

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Alex is on board early with muddying the waters about what this lawsuit was really about.

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Yeah, this is wow.

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This is that one.

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Yep.

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And I think it's a strong indication that he has talking points on it.

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Maybe not though.

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It's exactly what you would expect him to respond.

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I mean, yeah, I think he's, he's just grasped upon the thing that he likes, which is they

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made a meme thing about Hillary and he is not understanding the underlying principle

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behind this at all.

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Well, yeah, and what the court with the case was actually about the idea of like, this

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is clearly this, sure, you're presenting it as a movie, but it's clearly meant to sway

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political thought.

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It's clearly a campaign piece.

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It's political advertising, right?

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So it was about whether or not you have to, in the same way that you regulate political

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advertising, who's donating money to this, you have to disclose all of that stuff.

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And that's what the case is about.

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Alex is just like, no, it's about whether or not you can criticize public officials.

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Sure.

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Bullshit.

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Jesus.

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Has led to horrible things.

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Jesus, man.

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As that case plays out, I think we'll hear more about it.

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I think this is just Alex has found an article.

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I think he's going to latch onto this a little bit more in the coming weeks and months, but

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we'll see.

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I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just him again combining that DOD directive.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He's trying to really, every time he brings up the false draft story, he brings up the

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DOD directive.

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So it's just the two have now become married.

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Yeah.

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Um, and I'm skipping it because I really want to get to this next one.

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Okay.

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This is one of my favorite things I think I've ever found.

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Uh, this, I don't even know how to describe how silly this is.

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Okay.

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I had sent to the network this weekend, cause I'm still in the mindset of not doing video,

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just doing audio to play the clip for me this week of GI Joe in the eighties.

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What?

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I was kind of at the end of watching cartoons and was a teenager by the early eighties.

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But I remember when GI Joe first came on at about 82 and this is from one of the early

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episodes that was all new world order propaganda.

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And since then I'll go and watch online and others.

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This is from the 31st episode.

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Others are doing it too, old Cobra Commander episodes of GI Joe.

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And it's all basically throwing the new world order in your face in every episode.

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Like the TV's mind controlling people, but Cobra Commander's doing it.

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So he's saying that early on it was all throwing a globalist shit at you.

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Uh, like the TV is brainwashing you and stuff.

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So is he saying that they were portraying Cobra Commander as the good guy?

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Um, I don't know.

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I think he's trying to say that they're externalizing what they're doing through the form of Cobra

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Commander.

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Okay.

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Now I would tell you that the first five episodes of GI Joe were a plot where Cobra is trying

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to deprive the world of electricity by creating a super pyramid.

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Episode 20 Cobra Commander launches a plan to flood the world's major cities with lava.

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In episode 21 Cobra Commander tries to mind control animals to attack GI Joe.

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See, now that is at least a good plan.

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I don't understand the, the flooding places with lava at all.

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It's a little silly.

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That's counterproductive.

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So in episode 25 Cobra makes a weapon that allows them to pull down the Northern lights,

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which they plan to use to melt the solar ice or the polar ice caps.

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I don't think that makes any sense based on my understanding of the Northern lights.

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In episode 28 Cobra hires a Romani woman to conjure the ghost of a World War I pilot ace,

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a Centurion warrior and a Mongolian warrior to do battle with GI Joe,

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which of course is the globalist plots.

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Alex is, Alex is so out.

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He's out at sea on this one.

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He is so out.

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This is awesome.

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See, now I'm just thinking about how great GI Joe is.

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I'd never watched the show, but if there's a Romani woman

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conjuring a World War I fighter ace, a Centurion and a Mongolian to fight.

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And in order to defeat these ghosts.

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In order to fight the GI Joe, the most technologically advanced military in the world.

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They're ghosts.

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Oh, they are ghosts.

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So in order to defeat them, GI Joe has to find three artifacts and bury them.

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I really don't think that makes sense either.

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Globalist.

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So anyway, Alex is talking about the 31st episode, which came after all of these.

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We'll see what's up with this.

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And it's got to be stopped.

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And it admits the wavelength of the video mesmerizes you, which side of it reports admit

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in this one, he's for gold coins and he's manipulated the market

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to crash the world economy and to sell everybody gold.

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And he's bad.

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Gold is bad.

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Cash is good.

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And he holds up a gold coin and goes, ah, cobra money.

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So play this clip and then Allen wants expert take on it.

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We'll go right to your calls.

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In that video of the Obama-noids beating on doors.

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Join us.

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Join us.

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Pledge to support the bankers.

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Literally.

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So this is communism slash communism, but here is the Cobra commander clip.

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Guys, we're going to play the CNN next.

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Can you, can you pull me up the Cobra commander?

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Okay, go ahead and play it.

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We're going to get to CNN next.

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Due to the financial irresponsibility and incompetence of your leaders, Cobra has found

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it necessary to restructure your nation's economy by eliminating the worthless green

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paper, which your government has.

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So there you go.

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The new order.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Cobra wants to audit the fed.

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Now to continue it.

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There's more coming out of the club.

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I am pleased to announce economic recovery plan.

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If you want money to buy time for your children, take all your valuables to the nearest branch

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of extensive enterprises.

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They're all goods will be exchanged for Cobra currency.

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Ah, gold money.

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So see, it's just amazing programming gold.

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You're the person destroying the economy.

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You're Cobra commander Allen one.

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Yeah.

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I believe in the name.

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That means that the snake system isn't the serpent system.

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These people, that makes perfect fucking idiot.

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Yup.

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Yeah.

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There's a reason that Alex said at the beginning of that, I know I'm so in the mindset of playing

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audio.

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I don't even have the video.

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It's because if you watch the video, the plot of the episode becomes clear in that episode.

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It's not that he loves gold and he's trying to take over an economy.

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It's that Cobra commander has created a weapon that mysteriously only destroys paper money.

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So there are no rules.

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So the video that is awesome.

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The video that plays over that audio is of like GI Joe guys playing poker and their money

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exploded.

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So it's a weapon that can fire from vast distances anywhere.

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They didn't need to like get within 300 feet or anything like that all over the world.

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It wasn't a microwave weapon.

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Nope.

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Just if you can do that though, it seems like you would have already done it.

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Hmm. Yeah, I mean, it is a cartoon.

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All right.

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There is that.

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All right.

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So Cobra commander.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm just having a lot of fun with Alex played clips from GI Joe as evidence of his argument

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that the globalists are portraying libertarians, I guess, as the evil guys.

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Now there's a, there's another problem with this because I watched this episode.

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Oh shit.

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Has Ron Paul ever wearing a mask?

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A snake mask?

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Yeah.

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I don't think so.

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Oh, okay.

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So I watched this episode for research purposes.

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Yeah.

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And so the plot of it is that they create this weapon that destroys all this paper money.

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Of course.

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And so everyone has to come and bring their valuables to get Cobra money in order to buy

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food and stuff like that.

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Right, right, right.

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Now, what about change?

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Hold on.

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That's a good point.

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I think change is fine.

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What about silver dollars?

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That's a great point.

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It's not, it's not covered, not covered in the episode.

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Right.

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The issue is it's not about gold.

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Okay.

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Because the Cobra money very clearly is shown to be non-valuable things painted gold.

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So, so it's just a cup with gold on it.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Coins, but like made out of rock or spray paint.

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Okay.

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There's a whole conveyor belt that they show in Cobra headquarters where they're painting

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coins gold.

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So the whole thing isn't about replacing the currency system with gold.

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It's a nefarious plot where in these people.

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To steal gold.

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Oh no, it's to steal.

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Yeah, steal everybody's valuables.

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Steal everybody's valuables.

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Right.

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And I'd like to remind you it's a project.

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I can't.

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Alex doesn't get into the money destroying way.

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You know exactly how, just like with any project Camelot, I have to figure out the plot and

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engage with it.

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I would fucking love it if like a week from this episode, he's like, I've been telling

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you guys for years, the globalists are trying to resurrect the ghost of a world war one

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pilot centurion.

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And, uh, the world war one pilot going to do you.

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Yeah.

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If you can't really pilot anything as a ghost, he's got a ghost plane.

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Well, it's like a wonder woman's jet.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But wonder woman's jet was just invisible, which again.

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That's a feature of being a ghost.

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Again, very ineffective because you could actually see her throw it.

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Come on.

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80 stand up, get it together.

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So, um, we got one more clip left of Alex.

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80 stand up, get it together.

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Hey guys, get it together.

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So in this last clip we play, Alex gets a recommendation from a caller about how to

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make some money.

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Uh, and it's not create a laser.

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I was going to say it destroys money.

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That sounds like a good idea though.

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Works for a bit in the cartoon.

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Yeah.

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Gets foiled in the end.

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Oh, um, that's a shocker.

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Yeah.

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Not like, uh, all the other, it wasn't, it wasn't a two part episode where they, they

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were miserably five parter.

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Like the electricity, uh, arc from the electricity arc was a five parter first episode.

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Oh man.

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I'd like to see, I really don't like how they all yell.

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Go Joe.

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I don't understand that.

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What?

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I don't understand what go Joe means.

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I don't care.

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Anyway, here's the last clip, Alex says something real troubling in this.

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We did it for Ron Paul.

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And I was wondering if we could do it again, maybe, uh, have some sort of, um, graphic

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design campaign for billboards kind of use their, uh, their own, uh, weapons against

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them.

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Billboard sales are way down right now.

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I've been trying for two weeks, three weeks just to get a little activist page on info

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wars.com and prison planet.com with just a few banners and hey folks have viewing parties

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for the film.

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And I'm working on getting that done.

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I am this big global mega celebrity, but I can't even get that done.

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So I'm being sarcastic.

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Uh, I mean, literally, uh, but, but yes, that's a good idea.

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We're, we're also making some street action flyers for folks.

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We just don't have the money to buy a bunch of billboards, but if individuals are

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groups, well, that's another issue.

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I can't have one of those.

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We haven't worked out the technology for that.

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Probably never will, but we are trying as best we can, sir.

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Believe me, I just, any people to buy the DVD, you gotta believe in yourself, man.

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We have never done a money bomb and probably never will have the technology to do that.

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I think he's actually describing it though, as he thinks he, the guy is talking about

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a money bomb.

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No, he knows what it means.

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Cause it's, it's like Ron Paul did it and it was like a really big deal during the 2008

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campaign.

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Oh, I did not know that.

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Such a big deal that on May 31st, 2008, Alex had a money bomb.

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Again, I'd like to remind you that this episode that we're going over is from March 23rd,

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2009, not a year earlier, Alex had a money bomb.

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Okay.

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Here's the biggest question I have for you, right?

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How does this guy know that billboard sales are down?

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Is this guy a billboard salesman?

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He might be.

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He, cause he's, his plan is hyper-specific and he considers billboards their own weapon

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that we must use against them.

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The globalists love billboards.

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We know that.

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So he's saying that the globalists have weaponized billboards.

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You bet.

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Yet at the same time, he's saying that billboard sales are down.

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Yes.

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All right.

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He definitely, he works for a clear channel for sure.

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There's a decent chance.

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Yeah.

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More importantly, the money bomb stuff.

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Yes.

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Alex has already had a money bomb less than a year prior.

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Yep.

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Alex goes on to have a money bomb on June 11th, 2009.

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Well, he developed the technology.

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He got his R and D team on.

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He said he probably never will.

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He, well, yeah, but he believed in himself.

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He goes on to have another money bomb on October 14th, 2010.

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November, 2011.

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He has another money bomb.

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October 18th and 19th, 2012.

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He has another money bomb.

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He has a lot of money bombs.

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Theory.

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He stops having money bombs once he starts selling the products that Dr.

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Group brings along.

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Mysteriously in 2013, after Infowars Life appears, no money bomb.

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No money bomb in 2014.

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2015 in September, we get a money bomb.

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Mysteriously, right around the time Ted Anderson loses his license to sell gold.

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Huh.

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Weird.

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Weird, these coincidences.

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And then since then, Alex has had a bunch of money bombs with a different name.

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Yeah.

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Like these weird 52 hour marathons that he does.

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Sure.

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I believe the timing of all that very, very suspicious.

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Very suspicious.

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I might even go so far as to say it is evidence.

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It looks like something.

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Yeah.

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It looks like, oh yeah, that's the way you get a cash infusion whenever you need a bunch of money.

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Whenever taxes are due.

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It does seem like a number of them are around the end of the year.

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Yeah.

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But who knows?

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That's, you know, correlation.

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Can't really say for sure.

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Looks weird.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, that brings us to the end of this episode, Jordan.

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And what I'm seeing here in front of me is Alex is trying desperately to bring more leaves

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onto the plant of his patriot, we're oppressed narrative.

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The government's trying to stop us patriots.

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They're trying to implement a draft.

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All of this stuff is all these little individual lies that on their own are very easy to be

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like, nah, that's nonsense.

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Trying to bring it together into a much bigger lie that's more difficult for you to cut through.

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Because once he starts talking about the DOD story mixed with the draft story,

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he's so nonspecific when he's talking about it, it's much harder to be like,

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oh no, no, I can track that down.

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Right.

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But because we know the pieces of where they come from, now we can see,

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we know the ingredients that went into that cupcake.

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Right.

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So it's interesting to see the cake getting baked and we know that it don't eat that cake.

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And then he's disappointed by Kevin Booth's guests who are friends with Rick Ross,

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which is a delight.

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And GI Joe is a documentary.

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No, it's predictive programming.

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Yes, absolutely.

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It's propaganda the globalists are sending to our youths.

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Look out.

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In the early 80s.

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Look out 2019, globalists are going to flood your city with lava.

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Absolutely.

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Why?

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Because lava is bad.

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Lava is bad.

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Lava, you gain great control of a population when you wield the power of lava.

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I believe that's actually very true.

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That's from Sun Tzu.

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Let me ask you a question.

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Yeah.

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If you are going to find a Romani woman.

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Right.

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And ask her for three ghosts.

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Uh huh.

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What ghosts would you choose?

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Natasha Bedingfield.

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Is she dead?

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Nope.

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Still want to go.

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Love to talk to her about some of those songs.

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All right.

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They're bangers.

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Maybe you just want an astral projection of her.

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Sure.

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I'll take that.

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All right.

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Have some great conversation about what it's like to make great pop music.

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Carly Rae Jepsen.

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Also, let's take one of those.

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I'd like to talk to her more about making great pop music.

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Okay.

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Pink.

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There we go.

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Three.

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All right.

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I just want to talk to female pop artists who I think make great pop music.

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You would not be a good Cobra Commander.

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No, but I think it would be a better show.

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All right.

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Honestly, GI Joe's not going to foil that plot.

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It's just going to be educational.

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I don't understand how it's going to be educational.

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We're going to learn a lot about the nature of...

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Knowledge is power.

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You're right.

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It goes into great pop music.

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Everybody should understand that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Man, none of those people are ghosts though.

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No, but you already said we could take the astral form.

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I know, but I feel like the original question still stands.

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I feel like you want to answer your own question, so go ahead.

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I don't know.

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I don't know who I would choose.

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I genuinely don't.

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I was asking because I was interested.

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Baddingfield, Jepsen, Pink.

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None of which are ghosts.

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None of which are ghosts.

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We all have a spirit body.

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I like how you accuse me of being a person who does that.

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What?

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Who asks you the question like,

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if you had a million dollars, what would you do?

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I'm not...

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Here's what I would do.

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I'm not...

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When have I ever done that to you?

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Never, but these questions all seem like they're like,

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I have an answer for this that I want to tell you.

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I'm just interested in your answer.

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Jesus.

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Bullshit.

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I've never done that to you.

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That's...

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Literally never done that.

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I can't think of a time that you have,

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but these questions seem like the thing that that guy would ask.

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Look, maybe they seem like the thing,

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but I'm interested in your answer.

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And your answer was cheating and not ghosts.

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Not cheating.

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You didn't define ghosts.

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All right.

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I feel like we all have a shared definition of ghosts.

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And if you and I can't come to a definition of terms.

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Fine.

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There's no argument to be had.

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Woodhouse, Lovecraft...

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Jepsen.

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Jepsen.

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Not Carly Rae, the guy who made Mallorca.

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All right, guys, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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Indeed we do.

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Go to the website, click support the show if you would like to do so.

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You can also find us on Twitter.

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Underscore Fight.

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Knowledge Underscore Fight.

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Just Underscore Fight.

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Yeah.

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Not even an at.

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At Knowledge Underscore Fight.

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We're also on Facebook.

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We are.

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You can join the group.

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Go home, tell your mom your brilliance.

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Fun thing to do.

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We're also on iTunes.

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You can subscribe, leave a review.

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Absolutely.

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Super fun stuff.

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I will tell you...

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Ooh, you son of a bitch.

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Go for it.

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You win this one.

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One of the things that people remember most about G.I. Joe is that no one ever died in

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any of the episodes.

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All of the shots miss people.

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No one ever gets killed.

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I believe the A team is the same way.

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It's like there's so much gunplay and no one ever gets shot.

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Yeah.

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So no one ever died in G.I. Joe.

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But Alex Jones probably...

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Before you finish that, I have finally got an answer to the three ghosts.

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And you know what?

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I only want one.

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I only want one ghost of my three.

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And I'll tell you who that ghost is.

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The ghost of the guy that Alex probably technically killed.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.