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    | title         = [[93: 2015 Investigation Last Looks]]
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    | episodeNumber = [[93: 2015 Investigation Last Looks|93]]
    | length        = 02:52:16
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    | text      = Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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    | text      = Hello Alex, I'm a first name caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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    | text      = I love you.
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    | text      = Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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    | text      = I'm Jordan.
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    | text      = We're a couple dudes, I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = But today we have returned to our roots, my friend, and we are drinking the reddest of red blends.
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    | text      = Sure, 14 Hands.
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    | text      = 14 Hands, because it's all 14 Hands on deck.
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    | text      = Oh, you know what, you're not wrong.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You might have just bought that randomly, but today-
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    | text      = I did not.
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    | text      = Today it is all Hands on deck, we got some serious business to go through.
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    | text      = Let's do it.
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    | text      = As I described to you a little bit before the show, oh, this is also a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = How much do I know about him?
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    | text      = Almost nothing.
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    | text      = Good call.
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    | text      = But, I did get a tweet from a listener, whose name escapes me at this point and I apologize.
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    | text      = But they made a good point that at this point, we're almost a year into this, you don't know almost nothing about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = And that's an unfair way for us to open the show, it's kind of bullshit.
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    | text      = I think they're highly overestimating my ability to remember anything that you tell me.
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    | text      = Okay, maybe I know a lot about Alex Jones, and you have forgotten a lot about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Yeah, that's probably true.
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    | text      = Maybe that's a more accurate way for us to start the show.
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    | text      = But be that as it may-
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    | text      = Yeah, that suggests that I have ever listened to you. I think I really just talk.
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    | text      = Unfair.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Rude, I don't appreciate it.
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    | text      = I'm sorry.
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    | text      = So, last week, on Monday, we put out an episode where-
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    | text      = Because I think the thing you hate about me is that I interrupt you, Alex.
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    | text      = Not that I hate it, it's frustrating. It's conversationally difficult.
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    | text      = I know, I had to do it there.
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    | text      = So, last week, we put out an episode where we essentially ended the 2015 investigation into why Alex Jones joined up with Team Trump.
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    | text      = Indeed.
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    | text      = I declared it dead, we know pretty much for a fact that he joined up because Roger Stone is lying to him on a massive scale.
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    | text      = And on top of that, Russia.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And that was where we left off.
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    | text      = And he got a gold star from Trump and went home to his mother.
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    | text      = He did. He got a gold star from our friend Steve Pachanik, who's going to factor heavily into this episode, actually.
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    | text      = Okay, alright.
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    | text      = But I realized, I sat down and I did some thinking. I thought about it a bit.
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    | text      = And I realized that we might have been a little bit capricious in ending the investigation or in declaring case closed.
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    | text      = Right, absolutely.
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    | text      = And one thing triggered that in my mind. There was something that happened the other day on Alex's show that I covered on an episode while we were alone.
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    | text      = I was alone. You weren't on the show for that.
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    | text      = There was an instance, there was something, I'm sorry, I had to go grab the clip because I forgot to load it up.
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    | text      = Take your time.
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    | text      = But here it is. This triggered something in my brain and made me realize we need to double back.
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    | text      = You know, sitting and thinking and having something triggering your brain, that's how Gautama invented Buddhism, Dan.
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    | text      = So I think you're about to really crack the case.
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    | text      = I think we may.
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    | text      = Now, of course, that also led to the genocide in Myanmar right now, so there's that.
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    | text      = The Rohingya...
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = Oh, fuck.
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    | text      = No, not great. Not great.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = What I'm saying is let's go back in time and kill Gautama rather than Hitler because that would solve the real problem.
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    | text      = Oh, sure, yeah. Great, great.
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    | text      = I don't stand behind that, but I do want to play this clip for you and discuss it because I'm not sure if you've even listened to the episode in question of this.
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    | text      = I did.
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    | text      = All right. Prove it.
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    | text      = I don't remember a goddamn thing.
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    | text      = Well, good.
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    | text      = You were just talking to Cthulhu. What am I going to pay attention to then?
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    | text      = This is going to be fresh for you and maybe a repetition for people who listen, but it still will set the stage for what we're going to be going over.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Paul, we're going to go to Georgia and talk to Paul.
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    | text      = Paul, thanks for calling. You're on the air worldwide.
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    | text      = Hello?
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    | text      = Yes, sir, go ahead.
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    | text      = Yeah, I just want to bring up a point.
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    | text      = Steve Vicinich came on yesterday on David Knight's show and said this whole thing didn't happen. Are you aware of that?
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    | text      = Yeah, I think it's preposterous. I've watched the raw footage. I've talked to folks that were there.
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    | text      = You can't fake people dying and bleeding out, and he can have his opinion. I can have mine, but I don't buy into that.
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    | text      = Well, it's almost like a disinformation campaign. Is he still working for the CIA here? I mean, this whole thing...
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    | text      = Well, I think that's safe to say, yeah.
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    | text      = All right, if anybody disagrees with Alex, who he has had on the show in the past, that person is now a federal agent.
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    | text      = Right, doing a disinformation campaign.
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    | text      = Yeah, that's how that works.
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    | text      = Again, don't get in bed with psych warfare people. Don't do it.
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    | text      = He just figured it out.
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    | text      = I heard that clip, and it blew my mind, because first of all, that was news to me that Steve Vicinich doesn't believe the Las Vegas shooting happened.
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    | text      = Second, it's crazy to me...
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    | text      = He doesn't even believe the hurricane happened.
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    | text      = No, he does.
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    | text      = And he lived through it.
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    | text      = He does believe that.
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    | text      = He was there, and he was like, this is a false flag hurricane.
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    | text      = The lesson that he took from that hurricane was, mind your manners.
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    | text      = But he does believe it happened.
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    | text      = That's the best lesson to take from a hurricane.
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    | text      = No doubt.
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    | text      = So I heard that clip, and I was like, I need to think about Steve Vicinich a little bit more.
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    | text      = I need to explore him.
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    | text      = Like Buddha.
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    | text      = And where he was in the game at the end of 2015.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = And before I did that, I decided, hey, I never listened to David Knight's show.
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    | text      = Why don't I go back and listen to Steve Vicinich actually say that Las Vegas didn't happen.
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    | text      = You poor man.
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    | text      = So now you're going to have to listen to that too.
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    | text      = Fuck David Knight.
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    | text      = Here are a couple clips from the October 4th, 2017 show, The Real News with David Knight, where Steve Vicinich comes on and says that the Las Vegas attack did not happen.
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    | text      = Naturally.
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    | text      = Dr. Vicinich, let's go straight to the shooting in Vegas.
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    | text      = Your comments.
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    | text      = Let me tell you, number one, why I can't get on the Internet.
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    | text      = The reason is very simple.
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    | text      = I'm being hacked.
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    | text      = The reason why you're hearing me now is another person's phone call.
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    | text      = This is part of 9-11.
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    | text      = They can call it in Thursday, but everything you said, David, is the same thing I said within 24 hours of 9-11.
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    | text      = My CIA operatives admitted that they did it.
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    | text      = I have the names of the people.
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    | text      = If you have the fucking names.
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    | text      = It's because of 9-11.
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    | text      = It's a continuation of 9-11.
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    | text      = It's the same thing as 9-11.
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    | text      = Right, but he says he has the names of all these people then.
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    | text      = I implore you, sir.
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    | text      = Let's get on with it.
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    | text      = Let's get some Stevie Larry Nicks going on here.
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    | text      = To quote Barry Manilow, let's get on with it.
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    | text      = Because we need, I believe that the entire world's security is contingent on you producing these fucking names, Steve.
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    | text      = Yeah, and who the fuck did 9-11, Steve, huh?
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    | text      = He knows.
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    | text      = Huh?
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    | text      = Who knows?
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    | text      = Who did it?
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    | text      = Me and David Bush, Cheney, Chertoff, Giuliani, the Mossad operatives who blew up the building, and Condi, and as well as Colin Powell.
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    | text      = And this is what happened.
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    | text      = So what's happening now is the continuation of Sandy Hook false flag, San Bernardino false flag.
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    | text      = Yesterday in Las Vegas, a complete false flag.
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    | text      = It was absolute nonsense.
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    | text      = You could hear the verbiage.
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    | text      = You could hear the same setup as we had in Sandy Hook.
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    | text      = The narrative is so predictable that no one was killed.
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    | text      = There was no shooting.
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    | text      = And in fact, what happened in the giveaway was this was the greatest killing in the whole time of America.
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    | text      = That's distinctive of Trump.
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    | text      = He has to have the most and the best.
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    | text      = The sad part is that Trump fell into this system and is co-opted by the Department of HS, CIA, and FBI.
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    | text      = What we need to do in America now is demand the indictment of presidents, indictment of officials.
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    | text      = I don't know if it'll happen, but this is enough reason to start a revolution.
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    | text      = Holy shit!
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    | text      = That's crazy.
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    | text      = This is, he is the most right ever for the wrongest reason in the history of the world.
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    | text      = The idea of indicting the president.
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    | text      = Yeah, it needs to happen.
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    | text      = And so many of these, look, fucking, it starts with what, Reagan in the Iran-Contra scenario?
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    | text      = And every president since then should have been put in jail.
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    | text      = And Larry Nichols in the Iran-Contra scenario.
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    | text      = Exactly, exactly.
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    | text      = But fucking Christ, is he right.
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    | text      = Well, right.
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    | text      = And he is right for the worst.
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    | text      = I love it.
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    | text      = Let's not dally around with the idea that he's right, because the part that he's wrong about is more important, I believe.
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    | text      = You know what? The thing is, he puts it forward so confidently that while he was talking there was a part of me that was trying to figure out a way that all of these things could be false flags.
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    | text      = There is not. He is fucking stupid.
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    | text      = It seems prohibitive in terms of difficulty.
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    | text      = A lot of work would go into all of this stuff.
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    | text      = Yeah, there's no doubt. But it is fascinating that his line on it is that Trump has gone south and he's started doing false flags.
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    | text      = Yeah, and now it's time for a revolution.
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    | text      = Which is wild.
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    | text      = It is time for a revolution against Trump because he faked the Las Vegas shooting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And he had to.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And he had to in order to have the largest mass shooting faked in the history.
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    | text      = At what point do people just-
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    | text      = I now love Steve Puchenik because that is the craziest bullshit I've ever heard.
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    | text      = I like to keep in my head sort of a power ranking of my favorite crazies on Alex's show.
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    | text      = Steve Puchenik is not even in the top five for me.
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    | text      = I know that.
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    | text      = We got Hamamoto up top.
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    | timestamp = 00:09:35.500
    | text      = Of course.
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    | timestamp = 00:09:36.500
    | text      = We're going to meet number two on our next episode.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:09:38.500
    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = I'm going to go do a deep dive into this next crazy on our episode that will air at the end of the week.
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    | timestamp = 00:09:45.500
    | text      = But come on.
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    | text      = Steve is- no, he is just- save your praise until we get through all this.
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    | text      = Okay, before we even go any further, do you think he's deliberately lying or do you think he's lost his mind?
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    | text      = I think he's deliberately lying.
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    | text      = You think he's deliberately lying and blaming it on Trump?
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    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I think this is psych warfare, quite frankly.
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    | text      = Alright.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I also think he's a little bit crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's no doubt about that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I think he's absolutely insane.
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    | text      = Yeah, but even so, even in that clip, you heard him still in 2017, Sandy Hook was fake.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = And Alex, by virtue of David Knight, is allowing this to be broadcast on his show, unquestioned.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:26.500
    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Here's my theory.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Operating theory with zero information.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:31.500
    | text      = Alright, and I want to get this out up front.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That way the rest of the episode can prove me wrong, but I had a good time.
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    | text      = Alright, sure.
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    | text      = I think that when Steve Pacanik lived through the hurricane.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = He realized climate change is real.
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    | text      = And when that happened, it broke his brain because he spent all of his time denying it
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    | text      = and now for the first time he's confronted with reality and his entire worldview breaks
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    | text      = down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So there's two ways to go.
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    | text      = You can either change everything you think or you can double down on your conspiracies.
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    | text      = Let me pitch a continuation of your theory, but a slightly different version.
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    | text      = Alright.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So he realizes the climate change is real in the hurricane and decides he's got to do
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    | text      = his part to get Trump out of there so someone responsible will take over.
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    | text      = Okay, okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But he knows that the only place he has influence is with a bunch of crazies.
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    | timestamp = 00:11:23.500
    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And so the only way he's going to be able to affect change is by making an even more
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    | timestamp = 00:11:28.100
    | text      = insane theory for them to get on board with, and that is Las Vegas didn't happen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:34.000
    | text      = I'm in.
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    | text      = Unfortunately, it backfires because the next day Alex Jones disavows him and says he's
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:11:39.200
    | text      = still working for the CIA on his broadcast.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I don't think that's a bad idea at all.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So here's Steve talking more about how it was fake.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:48.840
    | text      = This is still from the real news with David Knight.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:51.500
    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There was no death, no killings, no shooter, absolutely nothing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And the reason- Wait a minute.
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    | text      = You're saying there was nobody killed in Las Vegas?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:01.700
    | text      = Nobody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:02.700
    | text      = It was basically a total false flag, it was a total Sandy Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:08.399
    | text      = I do not- Even in false flag operations, things still
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    | text      = happen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I also don't like the expression, it was a total Sandy Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's grim.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:17.759
    | text      = Look, we live in a world now that is so beyond insane that I can't help but laugh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Guys, it was a classic Sandy Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The fucking most lunatic, like- It's monstrous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:30.720
    | text      = That's a real thing that somebody said.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:12:32.600
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And there's a number of people who are listening who are probably like, fuck yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:37.919
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:38.919
    | text      = Look, if I did that on stage as a bit, that would be so beyond- People would see that
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = as the most ridiculous thing that you can possibly say.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:47.159
    | text      = You might get some press.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And he means it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:49.480
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:50.480
    | text      = That would be great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:51.480
    | text      = I would be on Jezebel as the, this comedian thinks that it's okay to go too far.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:57.440
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:58.440
    | text      = That whole thing.
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    | timestamp = 00:12:59.440
    | text      = In the next clip I have here from the David Knight thing, I believe this is the last
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    | text      = clip.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:03.399
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:04.399
    | text      = I want to be clear because I'm saying that David Knight's being a dick and allowing Steve
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Pechenik to say that Sandy Hook didn't happen as evidence that the Las Vegas attack didn't
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:13:12.759
    | text      = happen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:13.759
    | text      = And in this clip, it becomes clear that David Knight also doesn't believe Sandy Hook happened.
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:13:19.840
    | text      = I mean, look, they intimidated Alex Jones into thinking that people really died in Sandy
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:13:24.039
    | text      = Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:25.039
    | text      = Now, explain how that happened.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:27.039
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:28.039
    | text      = I understand.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:29.039
    | text      = I was intimidated that there was nobody was killed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = None.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:33.559
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:34.559
    | text      = I wouldn't disagree with you on Sandy Hook, but I certainly think that people were killed
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:13:38.360
    | text      = here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:39.360
    | text      = It's absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:40.360
    | text      = That's also insane.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:41.360
    | text      = That's an even more insane thing to think.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:44.559
    | text      = That is an even more insane thing to think that, look, if you believe both were fake,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:13:50.279
    | text      = at least that makes a certain logic, but if you're like, well, obviously this one is real,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:55.039
    | text      = but Sandy Hook was fake.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:56.519
    | text      = That's insane.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, actually that actually works towards your theory that Steve Pechenik is just crazy
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:14:02.200
    | text      = because then at least his sort of mental illness, schizophrenic break that he's having has clearly
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:14:08.080
    | text      = delineated lines and that is everything is fake, whereas David Knight is clearly not
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:13.320
    | text      = crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:14.320
    | text      = He's a liar because he's being like, well, I don't think we can use this one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:18.399
    | text      = I think that if we say this is fake, we're going to look real bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:22.240
    | text      = People have started to pay attention to us.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:24.840
    | text      = We used to fly under the radar and just antagonize people and make them scared.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:29.159
    | text      = Now people like late night shows make fun of us.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:32.799
    | text      = I don't want the world to find out who I am.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:34.840
    | text      = I saw what happened when David Knight, I learned what happened when people realized Owen Schroyer
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:14:40.860
    | text      = exists when he got made fun of by a little girl.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:43.720
    | text      = Do you know what's crazy?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:45.240
    | text      = I finally saw his name in print.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I swear to God, I have thought you have been saying Owen Troyer this whole time and it's
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:52.559
    | text      = Schroyer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:53.559
    | text      = It is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:54.559
    | text      = I can't fucking figure out how to speak English, Dan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:56.960
    | text      = One of the best tweets that I think I've ever put out was that Owen Schroyer is dangerously
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:15:01.919
    | text      = close to people knowing who he is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:05.080
    | text      = When he got made fun of by that little girl, everyone just laughed, but they don't realize
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = like he's an integral part of Alex Jones' operation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:12.919
    | text      = And he's also a monster.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:14.159
    | text      = Yeah, he has his own fucking show.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:15.639
    | text      = Anyway, let's get through the end of this clip.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:18.240
    | text      = I don't think that he was intimidated.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:19.720
    | text      = I think he's looking at this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:21.120
    | text      = I think he backed off of it a bit because when you look at these events, it's very hard
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    | timestamp = 00:15:24.919
    | text      = to determine exactly what happened.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:27.480
    | text      = But I certainly believe that Sandy Hook was a full-blown false flag, but I believe that
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:33.279
    | text      = people died here based on what I've seen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:35.080
    | text      = I think there's a lot of witnesses to this event, but thank you for joining us, Steve
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:15:38.879
    | text      = Pacitti.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:39.879
    | text      = So just shuts it down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:15:41.440
    | text      = I personally think Sandy Hook was a false flag, but there were a lot of witnesses who
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:15:47.519
    | text      = saw this going on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:49.320
    | text      = That doesn't make a goddamn lick of sense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:52.580
    | text      = That's fucking insane.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:53.799
    | text      = It's not good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:54.860
    | text      = How many witnesses is enough witnesses?
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    | text      = About a grip of them.
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    | text      = He's got a grip of witnesses.
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    | text      = A key grip or a best boy of them?
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    | text      = Yeah, just a stack of witnesses.
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    | text      = Who knows?
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    | text      = It's a stupid line to draw and everyone's dumb.
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    | text      = And anyway, I went back and I listened to this and I was like, Steve is crazy.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = He's lying and crazy.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = That's why we can't find the line between which one it is, it's because he's both.
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    | text      = I think he's gone.
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    | text      = I think this is a more stringent...
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    | text      = Completely off the reservation?
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    | text      = Yeah, this one's out there.
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    | text      = Well, we know that Steve Pacitti is a really important part of Alex Jones' worldview and
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    | text      = his support for Trump.
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    | text      = We know that, but I don't think we've done a good enough job of exploring that.
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    | text      = So now in the afterglow of Alex Jones realizing that Steve Pacitti has probably been misleading
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    | text      = him this entire time, I don't think he's doing that kind of work actually, Alex isn't wrestling
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    | text      = with that.
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    | text      = But he's saying that Steve Pacitti is running a disinformation campaign on David Knight's
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    | text      = show.
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    | text      = I thought it would be at everyone's best interests for us to go back and explore the last two
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    | text      = appearances of Steve Pacitti in December of 2015 when Alex Jones made the change.
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    | text      = Now on our last episode from 2015, we talked about how Alex had become fully convinced
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    | text      = to go with Trump by the last Republican debate on December 15th.
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    | text      = And I think that we had our date off a tiny bit.
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    | text      = I think he was already fairly on board by then, but he was presenting it as, now I have
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    | text      = no reservations about him.
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    | text      = Because I went back to a day that will live in infamy, December 7th, 2015, the anniversary
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    | text      = of Pearl Harbor, which is very fitting.
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    | text      = Oh no.
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    | text      = Steve Pacitti makes an appearance on the December 7th, 2015 show and this is like the kind of
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    | text      = stuff that Alex, you get to watch him throughout the rest of this episode getting fooled in
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    | text      = real time.
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    | text      = Do you know what's crazy?
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    | text      = What's that?
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    | text      = Pearl Harbor did not happen.
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    | text      = Oh my God.
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    | text      = False flag.
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    | text      = Not enough witnesses.
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    | text      = Do they not realize that false flags still happen?
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Like people still die.
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    | text      = The term comes from like ships that would put different flags on it to make the people
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    | text      = where you were going think that it was someone else and then they would kill everybody.
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    | text      = It's from privateers back whenever it was state sponsored pirates, essentially.
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    | text      = So if 9-11 was a false flag, the tower still did go down.
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    | text      = Like we didn't all get fucking mesmerized and turned into people.
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    | text      = This isn't fucking Men in Black.
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    | text      = Okay?
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    | text      = No, no, no, no.
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    | text      = You're not putting a giant on the, okay.
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    | text      = It's Men in Black too.
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    | text      = I apologize.
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    | text      = And to make the argument that Alex does about the Las Vegas attack, one of the things he's
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    | text      = saying, his mantra now is the target is the motive.
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    | text      = That's something he keeps repeating over and over again, saying that these white Christian
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    | text      = conservatives, because he's stereotyping country music fans, they are the ones who are the
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    | text      = target, obviously the motive was he wanted to kill white Christian conservative types.
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    | text      = So that's what he's saying.
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    | text      = And he's making the argument that that must mean that it's liberals and globalists who
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    | text      = are behind, you know, the Antifa were behind it because they would be the ones who would
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    | text      = want to kill conservative Christian white people.
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    | text      = And to that end, I would make the argument, if you had a crazy conservative type, and
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    | text      = I'm not saying that this is the case, but if you had a crazy militia type of guy, maybe
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    | text      = someone who listens to Alex Jones and loves the idea of false flags and understands who
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    | text      = gets blamed for certain things, wouldn't it make sense for that person then to target
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    | text      = their own people?
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    | text      = He says that the Democrats are going to do that to gain sympathy.
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    | text      = He says that the Democrats are going to start false flagging each other in order to blame
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    | text      = the Patriots.
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    | text      = So using that same logic, doesn't it make sense that he should consider the possibility
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    | text      = that some unhinged militia person attacked some group that would appear to be white Christian
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    | text      = conservatives in order to pin it on Antifa?
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    | text      = I'm not saying that's the case, but using Alex Jones's stupid logic, that makes as much
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    | text      = sense as anything he's saying.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = It drives me nuts.
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    | text      = Here's the problem.
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    | text      = It's crazy.
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    | text      = That's batshit.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = But also, we live in a comic book now, so that might as well, that's far more, like
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    | text      = I'm far more possibly, no, I know.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Because that's fucking insane.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = However, in the world that we live in, I'm at a place where it's like, a year ago, that's
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    | text      = fucking crazy, Dan.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Now it's like, there's a 12% possibility that did happen exactly the way you described it.
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    | text      = I think it's lower than that.
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    | text      = I mean-
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    | text      = But the only point I'm trying to make is that Alex is like, he ascribes all sorts of nefarious
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    | text      = motives to one side and then doesn't think that, oh, the people listening to me might
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    | text      = think, oh, that's a good idea, and then go do it.
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    | text      = But that's the entire point of, so the reason that-
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    | text      = Again, I'm not saying that's what happened.
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    | text      = But look, we're getting, also, that would be a delight if you were like, this is obviously
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    | text      = the truth.
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    | text      = Like if we just go, if we just start going conspiracy theory beyond Alex Jones-
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = That would be a delight.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I would enjoy that just as much.
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    | text      = I was starting to flirt with the idea of pretend, like my dad went to Harvard for his dissertation,
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    | text      = his doctorate.
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    | text      = No, anyways.
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    | text      = When I was growing up, when I was super young, we lived in Cambridge and in Boston because
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    | text      = he was going to get his doctorate in religious studies, and one of the things I was thinking
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    | text      = about was trying to create an alternate fake reality wherein we were actually there because
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    | text      = they were doing tests on me in order to create someone who could take down Alex Jones one
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    | text      = day.
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    | text      = Jesus, Dan.
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    | text      = I was thinking about trying to do something like that, and the idea of you saying we should
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    | text      = go crazy with just lies, I was like, well, I mean, that's an idea.
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    | text      = But did you succeed?
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    | text      = Not yet.
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    | text      = I mean, it's entirely possible you did.
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    | text      = Who knows?
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    | text      = Like, who did?
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    | text      = Look, all time exists in one moment, but-
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    | text      = That's true.
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    | text      = Space time.
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    | text      = Yeah, it's been declassified.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = No, but you're discounting the fact that if Alex did know that that's what could have
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    | text      = happened and would have happened, then his job then is to pretend that it's not what
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    | text      = happened.
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    | text      = That's exactly what happened.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Do you see what's going on there?
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    | text      = No, I know.
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    | text      = The more layers we dig deep-
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    | text      = It's a JICOM nesting doll.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It's impossible to get anywhere because you're just walking in circles.
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    | text      = See, the thing with that is, were that to be true, we only make Alex smarter and smarter
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    | text      = and smarter.
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    | timestamp = 00:22:55.920
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:22:56.920
    | text      = Whereas we should be going the exact opposite direction.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I think we are, and these clips will play that out.
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    | timestamp = 00:23:03.019
    | text      = He's not a very smart man.
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    | text      = But the first thing that I want to do is I want to play this clip.
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    | text      = This is from the December 7th, 2015 show, because Alex always talks about how it's come
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    | text      = out that the United States funds ISIS, and I didn't realize exactly where he was getting
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    | text      = this from, and he makes it clear in this clip, and it's a problem.
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    | text      = I started seeing in the last few years, though, this whole Islamic State thing and more, really
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    | text      = being allowed to recruit, being allowed to build up, being funded by Saudi Arabia.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:23:33.319
    | text      = We and others exposed it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:35.059
    | text      = Now it's blown up, and I have trouble even knowing where it's all going.
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    | text      = I don't think the establishment knows.
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    | text      = I think it's out of control.
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    | text      = That's why the former head of defense intelligence has come out three times now on television
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = in the last two months and said, we were ordered to fund ISIS and Al-Qaeda consciously.
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    | text      = It's a horrible idea.
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    | text      = I don't know what the president's thinking.
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    | text      = Do you know who that is?
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    | timestamp = 00:23:56.359
    | text      = I...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:57.359
    | text      = Rob Steele?
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    | timestamp = 00:23:58.359
    | text      = Michael Flynn.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:24:01.640
    | text      = Of course.
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    | timestamp = 00:24:02.640
    | text      = So...
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    | timestamp = 00:24:03.640
    | text      = Naturally.
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    | timestamp = 00:24:04.640
    | text      = Do you know what?
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    | text      = Here's the interesting thing.
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    | text      = And by the way, I listened to that interview that he's talking about.
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    | text      = It was on Al Jazeera.
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    | text      = He doesn't actually say that.
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    | text      = This is Alex Jones embellishing on lies that Mike Flynn, the guy who got fired from the
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    | text      = director of national intelligence position, made.
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    | text      = So it's not good.
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    | text      = And he was currently working for Erdogan at that point when he's making these claims.
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    | text      = He's actively an agent for a foreign power who is hostile and a dictatorship.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = But I don't necessarily think that discounts his points.
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    | text      = Interesting.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = No, I mean...
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    | text      = We did fund Al-Qaeda.
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    | text      = So it is not beyond the realm of possibility to imagine that in its early stages we funded
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    | text      = That's entirely possible.
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    | text      = Before they were the Islamic State.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = They were an entity that was actively international terrorizing.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Now, the Saudis almost certainly fund ISIS.
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    | text      = There is no doubt in my mind about that.
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    | text      = Most likely.
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    | text      = But the bullshit about us funding Al-Qaeda and stuff like that is it's a completely different
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    | text      = It's not like we funded Al-Qaeda in, you know, 99 or 2000.
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    | text      = We funded them when they were fighting the Russians.
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    | text      = But again, that doesn't necessarily discount what he's saying though.
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    | text      = I'm dealing more with that.
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    | text      = Or perhaps more with what Alex says he's saying.
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    | text      = And then there's also just the fact that we are constantly making ISIS stronger simply
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    | text      = by having our dumbass president.
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    | text      = No, that's true.
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    | text      = They are recruiting entirely based off that.
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    | text      = And it's not like they needed it.
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    | text      = Obama drone-striked the hell out of enough people where they're like, fuck it, we'll
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    | text      = It's like a recruitment plan.
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    | text      = Yeah, exactly.
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    | text      = All of our foreign policy decisions in effect end up helping ISIS.
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    | text      = Yeah, of course.
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    | text      = But that does not mean that we created ISIS intentionally, it just means that maybe...
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    | text      = In the same way that like when a car or even a pill to some extent, there is a negative
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    | text      = side effect that's found out that's going to cause X amount of trouble, and you could
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    | text      = either recall it or pay people off who it happens to, businesses, capitalism.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = They just decide that, hey, we're going to bite the bullet on this and just get sued.
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    | text      = It's cheaper to settle out of court than it is to change it.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = In the same way, I think there's probably a foreign policy equivalent to this.
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    | text      = It's like, we're going to kill a bunch of terrorists, but we're also going to create
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    | text      = I think there's probably an equation that people do, and I disagree with their math
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    | text      = probably, but that's probably the decision.
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    | text      = I think it's exactly what they want.
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    | text      = Look, nothing makes the gun companies more money than whenever a mass shooting happens.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = I mean, bump stocks got sold out immediately.
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    | text      = Immediately.
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    | text      = In the same way, it makes perfect sense that nothing makes military contractors more money
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    | text      = than more terrorists.
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    | text      = And nothing makes our GOP congressmen more electable than pretending that they're fighting
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    | text      = against terrorists.
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    | text      = So they have to create them.
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    | text      = America creates its own enemies by being fucking stupid.
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    | text      = That is a big part of it.
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    | text      = That's what we are.
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    | text      = So again, I don't necessarily discount what Michael Flynn says in that regard because
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    | text      = first off, who gives a shit?
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    | text      = He's going to jail.
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    | text      = Probably.
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    | text      = He knows that.
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    | text      = He has to know that at this point.
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    | text      = Seems bad.
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    | text      = His goal is either to be pardoned or to fucking go all out, right?
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    | text      = So why not?
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    | text      = And this is in December 2015 though, that he's saying these things.
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    | text      = We've got to remember that we're back in the past.
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    | text      = This is before he's even been named Trump's national security guy or anything like that.
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    | text      = He had to have known he was going to jail.
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    | text      = There was backroom dealings.
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    | text      = There's undoubtedly connections that have already been forming.
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    | text      = Roger Stone and him have been talking and shit like that.
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    | text      = There had to have been a point where he was like, ooh, I'm doing a lot of illegal shit
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    | text      = right now and I am not doing a good job covering it up.
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    | text      = It is crazy I've gotten away with it this far.
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    | text      = Yeah, exactly.
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    | text      = You ever have those moments where you sit down and you're like, fuck, I should be in
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    | text      = prison.
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    | text      = I've committed massive international fraud.
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    | text      = He's playing with house money, the fact that he's not in jail at this point.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = But be that as it may, let's put a pin in all that.
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    | text      = I get what you're saying.
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    | text      = I don't disagree, but I don't wholly agree either.
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    | text      = But it's immaterial to what we need to get through today.
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    | text      = Fair.
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    | text      = We're going to talk a lot about Steve Pechenik.
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    | text      = He comes in in this December 7th, 2015 episode to shit on Obama.
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    | text      = But I have asked repeatedly our intelligence community to stand up and stop the president
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    | text      = of the United States, be it Bush, Cheney, Clinton or Obama.
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    | text      = Obama has been a disaster from day one.
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    | text      = His history has been nothing but a contrived absurdity about a CIA operative born of a
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    | text      = CIA grandmother and mother and grandfather who had no background, no experience whatsoever,
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    | text      = and was voted in without any vetting by the Secret Service, the National Security or any
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    | text      = organization in the United States.
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    | text      = You and I could not have become president of the United States the way Obama did.
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    | text      = And what did he do?
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    | text      = Yeah, he would have to be elected to the State Center.
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    | text      = He created a false flag and a stand-down issue with the killing of Osama bin Laden, which
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    | text      = never occurred.
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    | text      = So another thing that was said.
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    | text      = So literally, Steve Pechenik does not believe anything is real.
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    | text      = He might be a nihilist.
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    | text      = He believe in nothing.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, or just like a solipsist.
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    | text      = He wasn't there.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And what didn't happen?
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    | text      = Well, in 2015, he has to know that he's full of complete bullshit on that one.
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    | text      = Like there's no way that he could even pull up any evidence to support those dumb bullshit
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    | text      = claims.
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    | timestamp = 00:29:56.440
    | text      = Well, the idea that Obama wasn't vetted at all is nonsense.
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    | text      = Insane.
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    | text      = That's complete nonsense.
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    | text      = He was already...
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    | text      = He's been in government.
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    | text      = And not only that, like, look, Obama was a not good president.
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    | text      = He was a...
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    | text      = There have been worse.
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    | text      = Oh, absolutely.
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    | text      = But it's not like he was up there with FDR or nothing like that.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = And you could make a very compelling argument that his response and his indecision in regards
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    | text      = to so many things is the reason that we have Trump.
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    | text      = Totally.
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    | text      = And he was a huge proponent of neoliberalism, which has destroyed the world.
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    | text      = So the idea that he is a CIA operative and Pacanik wants our intelligence community to
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    | text      = have more control over who becomes president.
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    | text      = I think so.
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    | text      = Is not good.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:48.279
    | text      = That's very not good.
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    | text      = And the fact that he's saying these things and Alex is just sort of like, you're a genius,
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    | text      = is kind of troubling because they don't really unpack that idea that these deep state people
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    | text      = should have control over that.
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    | text      = Which seems like something Alex would be against, but...
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    | text      = Furthermore, the idea that we want our intelligence community doing anything is very scary when
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    | text      = you start to consider how utterly incompetent and stupid they all are.
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    | text      = If you think about, look, we should have probably killed Fidel Castro 60 times and they failed
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    | text      = every single time.
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    | text      = Like with cartoonish Bond villain plans where they're like, we're going to put poison in
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    | text      = his drink.
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    | text      = And it's like, what are you guys doing?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It was a better time though.
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    | text      = That was our intelligence community.
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    | text      = That's more fun.
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    | text      = That is our intelligence community.
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    | text      = It's more fun.
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    | text      = I know.
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    | text      = But look, all I'm saying is if Putin can kill people in the UK easily, our intelligence
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    | text      = community is terrible at this.
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    | text      = But I, I, I, I, it's fine.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I don't have a rebuttal to that.
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    | text      = I was just thinking that it's probably easy to kill anybody anywhere, quite frankly.
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    | text      = But they're bad at it.
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    | text      = So the idea that they're all of a sudden successfully pulling off Las Vegas, the biggest mass shooting
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    | text      = in history, boggles my mind.
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    | text      = There's a difference between like a dissident who's in a different country and a head of
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    | text      = state.
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    | text      = Do you mean an ambassador?
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = There's a difference between an ambassador and the president or whatever position Fidel
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    | text      = Castro had.
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    | text      = I mean, if you're killing people, you're killing people in a different country.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Well, an ambassador doesn't have as much security as say, Fidel Castro.
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    | text      = I understand, but I don't know.
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    | text      = I still think it could be done.
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    | text      = There's shades of it.
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    | text      = And if you're trying to bring in the idea of Las Vegas stuff, like that would be not
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    | text      = that hard to pull off if you were a secret clandestine organization.
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    | text      = Really?
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    | text      = Well, look, I'm not saying that that was the case cause I don't believe it was, but if
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    | text      = you were some sort of secret organization that has unlimited funding, the idea of a
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    | text      = lone wolf killing type of thing, like that doesn't seem like it would be too hard to
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    | text      = pull off.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = So you're a JFK truther?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = Mm.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:01.900
    | text      = Back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It was Bush.
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    | text      = And to the left.
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    | text      = It was Bush.
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    | text      = It was Bush.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It was Bush who killed JFK?
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    | text      = Go watch Dark Legacy.
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    | text      = Now that's my favorite conspiracy theory yet.
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    | text      = It was H.W. Bush.
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    | text      = Who wouldn't become vice president for 20 more years.
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    | text      = But he was in charge of the CIA at the time.
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    | text      = That's true.
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    | text      = But come on.
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    | text      = I don't, I don't believe that's necessarily true, but it's an interesting theory.
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    | text      = Anyway.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = Speaking of interesting theories, we've heard that Steve Pechenik doesn't believe Sandy
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    | text      = Hook.
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    | text      = I mean, fuck it.
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    | text      = It might as well have been Hoover.
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    | text      = He probably could have pulled it off.
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    | text      = Probably.
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    | text      = Although he couldn't even get MLK to kill himself.
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    | text      = So then maybe he was incompetent too.
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    | text      = You're so frustrated with me.
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    | text      = Sandy Hook.
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    | text      = You, you love.
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    | text      = Sandy Hook.
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    | text      = You love, you love Cthulhu because you just get to talk.
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    | text      = I like a, I like a balance.
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    | text      = I like having you here to, you know, to have conversation with, but I don't fucking like
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    | text      = every single sentence interrupted.
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    | text      = I mean, look, I got to get a word in edgewise.
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    | text      = You got plenty words in edgewise.
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    | text      = Hey, take any edgewise word you want.
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    | text      = But when I say in this next clip, generally that's a cue that I'm about to say something.
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    | text      = I'm sorry.
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    | text      = You're just moving along pretty quick.
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    | text      = We're fucking 35 minutes in already.
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    | text      = We're four clips in.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = I apologize.
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    | text      = So in this next clip, we found out earlier that Steve Pechenik does not believe that
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    | text      = Sandy Hook happened in 2017.
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    | text      = See what he said in 2015.
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    | text      = President of the United States was created false issues and not only in Benghazi, not
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    | text      = only in Osama Bin Laden, but in Sandy Hook.
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    | text      = The way he says Osama Bin Laden there is kind of like a political Don Demello.
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    | text      = I think of Osama Bin Laden.
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    | text      = Anyway.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sandy Hook was par excellence, the description of a non-existent killing of a so-called Asperger's
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = individual who supposedly killed 22 kids and several adults with a lot of machinery and
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    | text      = a lot of heavy equipment.
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    | text      = It was nonsense.
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    | text      = So he's pretty consistent.
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    | text      = He's said that Sandy Hook was fake for a long time.
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    | text      = And Alex didn't push back on that at all, just sort of accepted it and like, eh, moving
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    | text      = along.
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    | text      = So the reason that I'm pulling this episode and then one other one when we're talking
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    | text      = about Steve Pechenik's role in this whole thing is because it becomes abundantly clear
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    | text      = when you listen to this December 7th appearance and then we're going to listen to the December
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    | text      = 29th appearance, you really start to get all the pieces come into play about Steve
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    | text      = manipulating Alex.
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    | text      = And there's a couple of moments where Alex, I think he sees through it a little bit.
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    | text      = And then he just squashes those fears or like, I'm being fucked with.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Now there's a couple of moments that'll be very clear to you.
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    | text      = What is the end game though for Pechenik to go full on with Sandy Hook trutherism?
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    | text      = You know, he's manipulating Alex, we got that.
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    | text      = That's all he's, he's just sowing chaos.
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    | text      = Well, he's just a fucking horseman of the apocalypse.
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    | text      = I think that populations are much easier to control and they're scared.
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    | text      = And when they are distrustful of authority and that sort of thing.
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    | text      = And so if you want to, I mean, Steve Pechenik writes books and stuff like that, that he
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    | text      = sells.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm sure there's some interest in that, but then also just pushing through, you know what?
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    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:29.340
    | text      = Couldn't it be?
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    | timestamp = 00:36:30.340
    | text      = That's a, that's a good question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:31.340
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Cause it doesn't seem like it's a purely financial motive.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:36:34.400
    | text      = It doesn't seem like it's, it's not clear.
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    | text      = He has a vested interest in Trump getting in, but he doesn't seem like he's not as much
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:43.940
    | text      = of a bigot as a lot of Alex's other cronies.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:36:46.699
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:47.699
    | text      = But what does he get?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like, so Trump did get elected.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:50.619
    | text      = What is he getting now that he would have gotten like stolen valor a little bit?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:56.980
    | text      = So this is just him wanting to get a hand job?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:36:59.440
    | text      = Like what are we talking about?
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    | text      = Well, but I mean, if you're going to make the argument that you think he's crazy, then
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = the idea that like he's crazy enough to just want everyone to think that he's changed the
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:37:09.019
    | text      = world, that could, it could be just ego.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's entirely possible.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:13.099
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:14.099
    | text      = The end game isn't as clear as it is about people like Larry Nichols.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:17.179
    | text      = Like Larry Nichols is really easy to see through.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:19.260
    | text      = He wants to destroy the Clintons.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's basically, that's it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:22.280
    | text      = That's the primary motivation for him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's kind of boring in that regard.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:25.539
    | text      = Well, it's not boring in terms of the witch stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:28.260
    | text      = No, that's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:37:29.260
    | text      = But then there's other people who it's clear that like, okay, Trump needs to get in because
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    | text      = it will aid a rollback of civil rights.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:35.840
    | text      = It will aid a rollback of taxes on the rich and stuff like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:39.699
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:40.699
    | text      = Steve is, it's not as clear.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:41.699
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:42.699
    | text      = I think he's playing a really interesting game, but yeah, I don't know why.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:37:47.380
    | text      = The why is not clear.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:48.699
    | text      = Maybe, maybe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:49.699
    | text      = Is it really just, he wants, so regardless of financial gain, which I mean, he's going
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = to get some, the more he appears on these shows, I imagine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:00.739
    | text      = Is it really just, he wants attention?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like is he just another...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:03.480
    | text      = He's lonely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:04.480
    | text      = Is he just another narcissist?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's possible, but I think also he might also be being manipulated in some ways.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like I don't think that he's as manipulated as Alex, but over the course of this, I think
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = you'll start to see little indications that it's possible that other characters we know
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:21.860
    | text      = are working a lot of angles.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:38:23.860
    | text      = By whom?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:24.860
    | text      = What are you talking about?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:26.300
    | text      = If Steve Pacanich is getting manipulated, by whom?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:38:29.139
    | text      = Roger Stone.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:31.420
    | text      = Now we're giving Roger Stone that much credit?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:34.099
    | text      = Let's listen to a few more clips and see where we land.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:38:36.579
    | text      = All right.
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    | timestamp = 00:38:37.579
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I agree that it's very difficult to say exactly what the motivation or the end game is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:38:44.460
    | text      = I think it might be possible that we could sum it up as a drastic change in US foreign
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    | text      = policy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:49.980
    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = And I think that he might have some softness towards Russia.
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    | text      = He might be a pro-Russia guy, so it's entirely possible that that's a piece of it.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = Let's listen to these clips and see if it develops.
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    | text      = So in this next clip, we see just the classic Steve Pacanich-style flattery that is indicative
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    | text      = that he's about to get Alex into a narrative, that he's like, hey, you need to listen.
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    | text      = I'm going to lull you into a sense of security with this ass-licking.
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    | text      = Let me get to the point to the American public.
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    | text      = You are important because basically you have been the game changer in the entire business
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    | text      = of the media.
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    | text      = Now, I've known the media very well from the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, all
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    | text      = of them, Roger Ailes.
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    | text      = Basically their job is to get ratings and to get money for whatever content they produce.
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    | text      = Your job, which I really didn't know from the beginning, was to assess the facts that
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    | text      = were out there and thanks to your own intuitive knowledge and sense of righteousness, you
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    | text      = went on to say, okay, let me hear what the alternatives are and you've continued with
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    | text      = it.
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    | text      = And in that sense, to me, you represented the American public, the public I knew, the
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    | text      = people who worked hard, the people who had to earn a living, the people who went to jobs
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    | text      = on a daily basis, not the politicians like Hillary.
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    | text      = So in that clip, he's saying that you have changed the game.
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    | text      = You are responsible for a change in the game because you're not like these assholes.
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    | text      = You're the voice of the under-heard people.
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    | text      = You are the voice of true America, which is exactly what Alex wants to hear.
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    | text      = That's exactly the sort of thing that gets him hard.
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    | text      = Yeah, he's a patriot.
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    | text      = So you're taking some notes there.
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    | text      = What do you got?
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    | text      = I just, like, is he in a certain sense actually a game changer in that regard?
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    | text      = Alex?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Unfortunately.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Like in the, in the same way that, uh, Breitbart and Drudge and all of those guys, and of course
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    | text      = after the Buzzfeed article that once again proved Milo is a Nazi, which fucking suck
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    | text      = all the dicks guys.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = We got some real blowback.
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    | text      = I fucking nailed it.
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    | text      = Got some real blowback for calling that one early.
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    | text      = Trust me when I say somebody's a Nazi.
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    | text      = Jordan screamed about it and he didn't even know that one of Milo Yiannopoulos's email
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    | text      = passwords was Kristallnacht or the other one was Night of Long Knives 1920.
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    | text      = Now that one could have been ironic.
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    | text      = Yeah, I bet.
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    | text      = I bet.
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    | text      = That's a long password.
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    | text      = Um, so, so if we are going to, if we are going to pull that direction, um, I don't understand
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    | text      = why it is, or I suppose, I suppose absolutely.
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    | text      = Pecanik has to tell him that it is everybody else is looking for money.
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    | text      = He has to tell him that because Alex has to believe that he is getting this money under
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    | text      = duress.
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    | text      = Like it always has to be to keep the doors open, right?
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    | text      = It can't be because Alex is a multimillionaire.
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    | text      = It can't be because of that.
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    | text      = It has to be because he's a Patriot because that will fulfill his narrative right now.
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    | text      = If Pecanik is doing that on purpose as opposed to believing that the next thing that he says
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    | text      = has to be fucking insane, right?
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    | text      = Uh, somewhat.
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    | text      = I mean, you want to hear it?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = And what happened is you allowed a Trump to come in, thanks to Mr. Roger Stone, whom I've
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    | text      = known about since the Reagan administration.
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    | text      = And he was brilliant enough to say, you know what, we're going to legitimize the people
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    | text      = who've been out there called the truthers and the wackos, the 20 million of us who basically
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    | text      = are saying Bush, Cheney, Obama, you're wrong.
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    | text      = Not only are you wrong, you're criminal.
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    | text      = Well, to show you're inside baseball, I didn't know you knew Stone.
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    | text      = I knew of Stone.
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    | text      = I didn't know how much high-level stuff he was involved in.
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    | text      = I mean, Elections of the Third World folks put two plus two together, but he's really
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    | text      = a really great guy.
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    | text      = I'm trying to get him back into town next week.
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    | text      = We're going to get back to the clip, but did you notice where he's like, I didn't know
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    | text      = that you knew Stone.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And immediately after this clip, uh, Steve is like, no, I don't know him personally because
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    | text      = I think he's started.
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    | text      = He's known him since the Reagan administration, but he's known of him in that regard.
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    | text      = Well, but I think that Steve is starting to, in this clip, he's starting to realize that
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    | text      = Alex is starting to put some pieces together and he needs to distance himself from Roger
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    | text      = Stone because the two of them are playing Alex from different angles.
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    | text      = That's clearly what's happening.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = But they're not working in concert yet?
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    | text      = Yes, they are.
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    | text      = You think they're working in concert?
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    | text      = Yes, but Alex can't suspect that because if he does, then he'll realize that they're fucking
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    | text      = with him.
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    | text      = So...
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    | text      = That they're using him as a media puppet.
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    | text      = But so you're saying that both Stone and Kuchenik are coordinating?
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = They've said to be, they've admitted it since then they have a group called the 45 group.
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    | text      = Yeah, but that was, that sounds like a silly dumb thing though.
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    | text      = It probably is, but it's real.
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    | text      = It's a thing that Roger Stone and Steve Puchenik and who knows what other people are a part
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    | text      = of.
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    | text      = They get together and they strategize and did so during the campaign.
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    | text      = So obviously Roger Stone and Steve Puchenik do know each other at this point.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = I refuse to believe that that's possible.
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    | text      = That's not the case.
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    | text      = Making some assertions that are based on some of the later clips too.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = So don't, don't like, you know, don't push back too hard, but at the same time, I understand
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    | text      = your critiques.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And they're fair.
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    | text      = But you, you...
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    | text      = Well, you know, I'm always going to come at this from the Occam's Razor perspective, simply
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    | text      = because...
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    | text      = What's a simpler explanation than the two of them know each other?
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    | text      = Like what, wait, I'm talking more about the coordinating together situation.
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    | text      = Let's finish this clip.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = So the, the, the, the behind the scenes stuff I learned, Trump knows a lot more obviously
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    | text      = than he, than the public knows.
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    | text      = And Stone was basically talking about how many really good people in the government
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    | text      = are basically saying what you're saying, that none of them were ever perfect, but they now
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    | text      = realize this country is going to be brought down if we don't turn things around and stop
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    | text      = this hijacking of the government by select groups at the top.
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    | text      = I agree with you.
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    | text      = But we get the first intention heard a word of that.
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    | text      = He was just like, I agree with you.
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    | text      = No, the only thing, the only thing he's concerned about, because immediately what he says after
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    | text      = that is, I don't know Roger Stone.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = That's the thing that he's concerned about is that pushing back against that.
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    | text      = Because what you heard there at the end of that clip of Alex talking is something that
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    | text      = he will revisit later.
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    | text      = And it is a realization that Roger Stone behind the scenes has been telling him verbatim the
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    | text      = same stuff Steve Puchenik has been telling him.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = That to me indicates coordination.
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    | text      = That's yeah, that's much more compelling than what we just saw right there.
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    | text      = So my theory is that Steve Puchenik, I mean, he's been a long time guest on Alex Jones's
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    | text      = show.
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    | text      = Roger Stone has not.
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    | text      = Roger Stone was a part of the Trump campaign and then left in August 2015 in order to try
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    | text      = and create a groundswell of supposedly not connected to Trump media attention.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Well, there's that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, certainly from that Breitbart article, it's tough to get away from that.
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    | text      = Hard to say.
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    | text      = So what he does is he has connections with Steve Puchenik.
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    | text      = He knows Steve Puchenik.
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    | text      = And he's like, you and I need to work together and we're going to flip Alex Jones.
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    | text      = We're going to get him on board.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So Steve Puchenik months before this, this December episode, he came on and said that
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    | text      = me and some other people have convinced Trump to run for president because he is the one
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    | text      = who can save the country.
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    | text      = He planted that seed a couple of months ago in Alex's head because of interactions that
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    | text      = he's had with Roger Stone.
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    | text      = The people that he's talking to behind the scenes are Roger Stone and ostensibly other
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    | text      = people who are members of this 45 group, right?
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    | text      = That is my belief.
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    | text      = Okay, then a little bit of time goes on and I imagine, you know, Steve Puchenik is spitting
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    | text      = the narratives that Roger Stone will end up saying once he shows up, Roger Stone shows
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    | text      = up and he's like, oh yeah, he says the exact same things that trusted Steve Puchenik say
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    | text      = and Alex Jones immediately is like, well, it must be true.
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    | text      = You guys can't be connected.
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    | text      = You say you don't know each other.
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    | text      = When in the meantime, it's just a perfectly elaborate, perfectly laid out charade that
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    | text      = now in 2017 has collapsed because Steve Puchenik has said that the Las Vegas shooting, no one
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    | text      = And because everyone's paying attention to Infowars or is there not?
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    | text      = I just don't like, I suppose it's just, I see these two guys as being fucking stupid.
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    | text      = So the idea that they can successfully pull off this scam.
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    | text      = What's stupid about, I don't see anything stupid about them.
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    | text      = Listen to what they say.
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    | text      = They're fucking stupid people.
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    | text      = No, cause there's intent behind the things that sound stupid.
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    | text      = That's the thing that needs to be taken into consideration.
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    | text      = Like if you or I said it or if you walk down the street and you saw some guy in like a,
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    | text      = I don't know, a Hillary for prison shirt and he's saying it, he's stupid.
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    | text      = But the progenitor of the information is not stupid.
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    | text      = They're doing it for a reason.
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    | text      = Propagandists and conspiracy theorists very rarely exist in a vacuum.
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    | text      = No of course.
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    | text      = They're not do it.
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    | text      = They're not espousing the dumb theories that they espouse for no reason.
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    | text      = There's something behind all of them.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = But they're, they're essentially con men.
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    | text      = So like are they, and con men's motivations tend towards the selfish.
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    | text      = It's not as though they are doing this for some sort of a larger good.
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    | text      = Like they don't give a fuck about the country.
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    | text      = They don't give a fuck about America.
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    | text      = But they know that that rhetoric is very powerful.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = So you always present it as I care about the country.
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    | text      = But then do they, do they just want, do they want power?
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    | text      = Do they want influence?
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    | text      = Do they want money?
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    | text      = Probably.
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    | text      = Do they like, and how does this help them gain this?
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    | text      = This is what I don't understand.
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    | text      = Well look at-
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    | text      = The more, the more, so Roger Stone just wants attention.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = That's a big part of it.
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    | text      = All Roger Stone wants is for people to look at him and say, look at, he's got a tattoo
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    | text      = of Nixon on his fucking back.
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    | text      = All he wants is attention.
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    | text      = I think that that's a big part of it, but you have to consider that, you know, he's
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    | text      = been in business with Paul Manafort as Rogers, or as Alex even slips in there, he, he's been
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    | text      = involved in third world country elections.
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    | text      = He has, he has interests that are not abundantly clear without digging too deep into them.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = That probably they all stand to gain an amazing amount of money through Trump being president.
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    | text      = They all know that they can use him.
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    | text      = But that's such a convoluted Rube Goldberg machine of making money.
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    | text      = Well, maybe some of them had their backs to the wall.
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    | text      = Maybe there was no other option.
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    | text      = People like Mike Flynn probably didn't have another option.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Paul Manafort in over his head probably didn't have another option.
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    | text      = I don't, I don't buy that.
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    | text      = There's so many other options.
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    | text      = There's so many other, they, they already have influence and name recognition within
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    | text      = DC.
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    | text      = You owe millions of dollars to a foreign power that wants their money back.
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    | text      = What do you do?
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    | text      = You can influence trade in order to get your debt forgiven.
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    | text      = Wait, Stone and Manafort owe men?
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    | text      = That does.
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    | text      = Really?
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Didn't you do, there was an article that came out recently about how the, the, I didn't
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    | text      = know he owed money.
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    | text      = I thought he just made money off of the prevailing theory is because he owed a bunch of money.
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    | text      = Uh, I can't remember the guy's name that he owes a bunch of money to, uh, but it was involved
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    | text      = with that, uh, uh, the direct guy.
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    | text      = I can't remember how to say that Russian name, but he's the guy who the emails showed that
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    | text      = he was offering private briefings to.
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    | text      = And the prevailing theory was that money is super easy to trace.
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    | text      = And so he was offering these things in exchange for debt forgiveness because that would be
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    | text      = impossible to trace.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = So there are situations like that.
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    | text      = I don't know the financial status of Steve Pechenik.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = I don't know what he has his fingers in the pies of, but you have to assume with a lot
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    | text      = of these people, that is what's going on.
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    | text      = They're desperate.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And it's so hard for me to jump full force into this because again, it sounds like a
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    | text      = fucking comic book.
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    | text      = Like this does not sound like it would happen in reality.
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    | text      = Now then again, of course, Trump is, Trump is the president, so fucking who knows what
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    | text      = could happen.
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    | text      = But it's, it seems just so insane to me that that would actually happen in real life.
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    | text      = Just because at the same time, these guys seem so, I don't know, either, either they're
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    | text      = amazing at their jobs or they're terrible at their jobs.
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    | text      = There's no, there's no middle ground with these fucking idiots.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = So here's the article about Paul Manafort.
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    | text      = A very effective way to conceal payment.
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    | text      = We now know more about why Manafort offered private briefings to a Russian oligarch.
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    | text      = Paul Manafort offered private briefings on the Trump campaign to a Russian oligarch in
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    | text      = hopes of resolving a business dispute, a new report says.
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    | text      = The dispute erupted as a result of a failed 2008 business deal.
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    | text      = Manafort's representatives say the offer of private briefings never materialized, which
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    | text      = is irrelevant in terms of his motivation.
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    | text      = Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort offered private briefings about the campaign
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    | text      = to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska in hopes of resolving a years long business dispute,
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    | text      = sources told Bloomberg on Wednesday.
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    | text      = The dispute stemmed from a failed business deal the two pursued in 2008 involving a Ukrainian
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    | text      = TV company called Black Sea Cable, according to Bloomberg.
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    | text      = Legal complaints filed by Deripaska's representatives in the Cayman Islands in 2014 say he gave
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    | text      = Paul Manafort $19 million to invest in the company, but the project fell through and
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    | text      = Manafort all but disappeared without paying back Deripaska.
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    | text      = Deripaska's representatives were openly accusing Paul Manafort of fraud and pledging to recover
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    | text      = the money from him as recently as early 2016, according to the Associated Press.
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    | text      = But they reportedly backed off on accusations shortly after Manafort joined the campaign
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    | text      = in the spring.
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    | text      = So you have situations like this.
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    | text      = That seems pretty open and shut then.
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    | text      = Or at least it's it's fucking you need a good excuse if it's not the truth.
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    | text      = No, that's obvious.
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    | text      = That's obviously what happened.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Any any other conclusion is outside of the pale.
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    | text      = It would be baffling.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:55.079
    | text      = Another conclusion.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So what I'm saying is that we have these things that are starting to come up.
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    | text      = And who knows?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I like I said, I don't know Steve Pachanik's game in it as a whole.
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    | text      = I don't know exactly what Roger Stone's hand is in it.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Well, I mean, the lifting of sanctions on Russia, no oil would have netted billions
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    | text      = of dollars.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = So on that on that end, they could have had a piece of that.
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    | text      = That's possible or just I mean, it's pretty clear to me, based on Steve Pachanik's things
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    | text      = that he said, he has a soft spot for Russia and likes them.
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    | text      = So the idea of being able to work with them more, not being illegal, that might be his
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    | text      = motivation.
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    | timestamp = 00:54:39.940
    | text      = I don't know.
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    | timestamp = 00:54:40.940
    | text      = But he's doing something.
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    | text      = He can't jump on board with a global conspiracy whenever we're fighting against a global conspiracy.
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    | text      = I don't think it's a global conspiracy.
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    | text      = Somebody who believes in globalists.
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    | text      = I think it's very localized.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The whole thing is just part of another larger chain, though.
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    | text      = Like if you're going to say that Stone and Pachanik are both manipulating Alex in coordination
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    | text      = with each other, then you have to get into the larger group of 45.
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    | text      = Do they all know about this coordination?
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    | text      = It's not a group of 45.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's a 45 group.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There's not 45 members because group of 45 makes it sound like there's 45 members.
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    | text      = I have no idea how many people are in it.
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    | text      = But they've talked about it openly.
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    | text      = This is a Kill Bill volume one, the crazy 88 situation.
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    | text      = There better be 88 members.
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    | timestamp = 00:55:22.659
    | text      = They've talked about it openly.
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    | text      = So then you have to say that, well, that entire group is probably at the very least had a
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    | text      = conversation about it or they've reported on it.
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    | text      = You got to assume like Flynn and Sessions are probably in there too.
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    | text      = So now you have Flynn and Sessions who are both coordinating also with multiple different
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    | text      = governments.
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    | text      = Well, they have been.
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    | text      = Yeah, exactly.
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    | text      = They have been.
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    | text      = So now we're dealing with a global conspiracy.
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    | text      = But you're really not.
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    | text      = And I just don't see how they can successfully pull that off.
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    | text      = You're not in the same way as the globalist conspiracy that Alex projects, because that
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    | text      = involves poisoning the water and trying to take away our virility and stuff like that.
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    | text      = That's the stuff that's bullshit.
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    | text      = And this is just making a shit ton of money for them.
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    | text      = All of these things, the motivation is very clearly just selfishness and self empowerment.
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    | text      = And that is a global conspiracy that's based entirely on that makes more sense than otherwise.
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    | text      = Still doesn't make a lot of sense, but it makes more sense.
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    | text      = Is it really that easy?
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    | text      = It's very frustrating to me.
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    | text      = Is that what you can do?
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    | text      = Can you actually just do a global conspiracy?
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    | text      = If you get enough, if you get enough connections, is it all of a sudden like, hey, let's make
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    | text      = a billion dollars off of sanctions lifting by electing the worst president in the history
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    | text      = of the world that takes forever that we couldn't possibly have done that barely happened in
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    | text      = the first place?
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    | text      = And a couple of us are flaming bigots, so we'll just distract everybody with all sorts
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    | text      = of weird taking away birth control and outlawing 20 week abortions and shit like that.
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    | text      = We'll get everyone hot and bothered and distracted with that while we rake in millions.
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    | text      = And then the- Or have our millions forgiven in debt.
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    | text      = It has to be like, if you're going to put that motive in there, it has to be desperation
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    | text      = because their percentage of success had to have been astronomical.
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    | text      = Like imagine if our media actually functioned even slightly.
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    | text      = But that's part of your calculations, right?
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    | text      = But even a little bit.
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    | text      = If they had given Trump a billion in free advertising instead of two billion in free
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    | text      = advertising, would we still be in the same place?
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = You know?
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I probably, I think so.
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    | text      = Do you think it was inevitable?
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    | text      = I think so.
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    | text      = You think so?
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    | text      = Probably.
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    | text      = You think the Trump thing from start to finish was inevitable?
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    | text      = Maybe.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I almost, I can see a situation where that's correct as well.
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    | text      = I think we'll know more as time goes on, but I think it's entirely possible.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, in terms of Cambridge Analytica, in terms of the micro-targeting of people with
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    | text      = ads, in terms of these Russian companies buying weird ads that seem to have to do with our
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    | text      = domestic issues, trying to cause people to be racist or try to inflame people's racism
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    | text      = towards Trump or to get them towards Trump by inflaming it.
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    | text      = I think that a lot of those things do make it much more inevitable.
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    | text      = I think that there certainly was a way that people could have fought back against it more
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    | text      = effectively, but everyone was too busy fighting.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I just don't like, I don't like that narrative because that is the people with information
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    | text      = defeating the people without it.
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    | text      = And I just don't like that worldview.
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    | text      = Or in this case, it's the people, yeah.
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    | text      = Or the insanely rich defeating the poor, which makes more sense.
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    | text      = But the way that they did it was such an effective targeted propaganda campaign that I just don't
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    | text      = want to believe that people are that good at something like that.
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    | text      = Well, I think a lot of people are.
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    | text      = And you've got to consider that Roger Stone is one of the sleaziest players in the game.
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    | text      = He's the Ric Flair of politics.
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    | text      = So like, he's dirty as hell.
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    | text      = And why would you not think that that would be his modus operandi?
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    | text      = Yeah, of course.
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    | text      = Why would you not think that pulling off something really fucked up and sleazy is exactly what
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    | text      = he's all about?
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    | text      = Like I know that he and Trump have been friends for a long time and all that, and that explains
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    | text      = sort of his proximity, but his involvement implies much worse.
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    | text      = Like the idea that he was actively involved in stuff.
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    | text      = If I'm going to do an autopsy, my first kill as far, not kill, I mean my first like suspect
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    | text      = or the prime mover, so to speak, is Mercer.
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    | text      = And I think this will go down in history as the first time that artificial intelligence
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    | text      = beat humanity.
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    | text      = That's what I think.
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    | text      = Didn't Blue beat Kasparov?
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    | text      = That's not artificial intelligence.
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    | text      = It couldn't improvise in that regard.
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    | text      = But I do think that Cambridge Analytica is the secret.
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    | text      = I think that's one of the biggest pieces, and the Mercers are behind all sorts of shit
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    | text      = like this.
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    | text      = But at the same time, I would not put it past the idea that the 45 group might even be affiliated
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    | text      = with him in some way, Robert Mercer.
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    | text      = I mean, if we're going to go against a guy who thinks Soros is behind everything, I'm
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    | text      = not going to insist that Mercer is behind everything.
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    | text      = However, I do have the inklings of an episode of Doctor Who wherein they go back in time
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    | text      = and they realize that Mercer is actually just a robot who is being controlled by the silence
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    | text      = or whatever.
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    | text      = Well, I mean, everyone, if you haven't at this point, go read that BuzzFeed article
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    | text      = about the emails that leaked from Breitbart about Milo Yiannopoulos and his connection
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    | text      = and whitewashing of Nazi and white supremacist sources.
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    | text      = And then go read the Guardian article about Cambridge Analytica and their intense campaign.
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    | text      = And put those two together and realize that they're the same people.
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    | text      = And consider that they are working in allegiance and in concert with Alex Jones and Infowars.
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    | text      = It's just slightly disconnected because, I mean, look at it.
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    | text      = Milo's come on Alex's show.
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    | text      = They're friends.
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    | text      = They're buddies.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = He loves Bannon.
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    | timestamp = 01:01:33.500
    | text      = He thinks Bannon's a genius.
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    | text      = On a recent episode, he's talking about how the fourth turn is coming.
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    | text      = That's a big piece of Bannon's ideology.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So like all of this is connected.
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    | text      = See, I started off with the whole like global conspiracies are dumb and now I'm right in
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    | text      = a place where it's like all of these, all of these outlets, all of these media outlets
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    | text      = are connected and creating this loop.
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    | text      = And they're all funded by rich old white billionaires.
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    | text      = And Betsy Devos who can go fucking hang herself.
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    | timestamp = 01:02:07.179
    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = I hope she dies.
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    | timestamp = 01:02:09.179
    | text      = I really hope she dies.
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    | timestamp = 01:02:10.179
    | text      = Well, I have some good news.
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    | text      = Like like Scalise.
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    | text      = So, in that last clip, one of the things that we lost track of.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = That was really important is that Steve Pachannik knows that Alex Jones got information from
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    | text      = Roger Stone.
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    | text      = Yes, absolutely.
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    | text      = And that Roger Stone got him the appearance with Trump.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And there's a implication that he should know that.
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    | text      = Alex has never said that on air.
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    | text      = And the fact that Steve knows it means that he knows.
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    | text      = So that suggests that Roger has told Steve.
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    | text      = So little.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Or at least somebody in the, there's a middleman.
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    | text      = There is a connection between the two.
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    | text      = So now we've had Steve butter up Alex.
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    | text      = He's had him, he's flattered him a bit and now he flatters him a little bit more.
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    | text      = And in this clip, he does something very intentional and we'll talk about it on the other end.
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    | text      = This cannot continue.
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    | text      = We do not have a Congress, a president, or a military and intelligence that is viable
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    | text      = and concerned about our national security.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And that's where America has to have the American Revolution in a way that's productive and
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    | text      = constructive.
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    | text      = Why you are important and why Trump was important is you are the game changer.
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    | text      = You are the expression of that American Revolution in the 21st century.
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    | text      = To allow the truth to come out, St. Augustine said, don't worry about the truth.
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    | text      = Let it do what it does best to destroy those who distort the truth.
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    | text      = So what he does there is, first of all, it's interesting that he says that why you are
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    | text      = important and Trump was important using the past tense for Trump is very strange.
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    | text      = I think it might've been an accident, but the other thing is that he inexorably ties
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    | text      = Alex and Trump together as being the forces of this new revolution.
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    | text      = So at this point, Alex is still not really, like he hasn't come out gung ho for Trump.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Pechenica is putting the two of them together as being proponents of this American Revolution,
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    | text      = this 1776 2.0, that puts into Alex's brain, we are of the same ilk.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, we're bras.
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    | text      = So I mean, like December 1st of 2015 is when Trump came on his show.
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    | text      = And that is, you know, seven days before, oh, I'm sorry, December 2nd is when he came
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    | text      = on.
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    | text      = I mean, he knew on December 1st on the show, he's talking about how I got a big guest for
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    | timestamp = 01:04:32.099
    | text      = tomorrow.
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    | timestamp = 01:04:33.099
    | text      = It's gonna be big.
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    | text      = I don't want to tell you who it is, wink.
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    | text      = But then on the third, he goes so far as to still say that he loves Rand Paul, he supports
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    | text      = Rand Paul, but that Trump is okay.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And it was cool that he came on his show.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = So four days.
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    | text      = Well, that's a false flag.
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    | text      = Four days before this, he is still saying the same stuff that we'd already heard.
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    | text      = And even after Trump had been on, he didn't go full on.
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    | text      = I don't think that was actually Trump.
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    | text      = I think that was a crisis actor.
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    | text      = It could have been.
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    | text      = Check his earlobes.
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    | text      = Yeah, exactly.
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    | text      = So Steve is needing to connect them even further in order for this to really this point to
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    | text      = get home.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And that's that's the job he's doing on this December 7th episode.
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    | text      = He's tying them together.
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    | text      = Your fates are entwined.
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    | text      = You are the game changer that will help bring the American Revolution to pass.
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    | text      = That's fucked up.
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    | text      = That's really hard to like, it's hard to hear that and be like, I can't do it.
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    | text      = What's really interesting to me about that is it seems as though everybody or not everybody,
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    | text      = but everybody who's trying to influence things and everybody who is looking at things from
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    | text      = a, you know, I don't know if you want to say that Pechenik is rational.
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    | text      = He is making the same point that I would be making from a different perspective.
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    | text      = But the system is utterly and completely broken.
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    | text      = It is destroying everything.
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    | text      = So his his point is we need to destroy the system and rebuild it.
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    | text      = So if we're going to go with that as his motive, then the only the only difference between
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    | text      = he and I is spectrum.
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    | text      = I think the system needs to be broken down and rebuilt in order to benefit the poorest.
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    | text      = And he disagrees.
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    | text      = He thinks it needs to be broken down and rebuilt to benefit the wealthy only.
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    | text      = So but what boggles my mind about those people is that it is already done.
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    | text      = So what is it that he wants to how is it that you can break down and rebuild the system
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    | text      = to benefit the rich even more other than creating a new feudal society?
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    | text      = I think that might be it.
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    | text      = He wants to be he wants to have his own, he wants a protectorate in Florida is what you're
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    | text      = saying.
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    | text      = Larry Nichols said, you know, if you're in the Senate, you become a duke.
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    | text      = He was actually bluffing.
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    | text      = It's just if you're rich, you become a duke.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He wants to become a vassal.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = Interesting.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = It's tough to say.
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    | text      = In this next clip, the last one we've got from December 7th, again, a day that will
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    | text      = live in infamy.
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    | text      = Alex almost realized that he's being fucked with.
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    | text      = He almost realizes.
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    | text      = See if you can give me the high sign.
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    | text      = If you can tell where Alex almost gets it.
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    | text      = And then it's like, no, you're great, Steve.
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    | text      = And I just want to say to Dr. Patchenik briefly and get his brief response.
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    | text      = He's got to go.
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    | text      = We've got to go.
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    | text      = He was on a few months ago and he said, you know, the CFR and all the rest of it, I fed
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    | text      = the line that Jeb Bush should run, knowing that once he got back in, we use 9-11 on him.
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    | text      = And then I see Trump start using 9-11 on him.
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    | text      = And then I have some discussions.
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    | text      = I'll just leave it at that.
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    | text      = And that's indeed what they're doing is basically baiting the media in to attack him as a 9-11
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    | text      = truther.
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    | timestamp = 01:07:47.539
    | text      = They're going to destroy the Clintons and the Bushes with it.
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    | timestamp = 01:07:50.300
    | text      = But they were smart enough.
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    | text      = It got real big.
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    | timestamp = 01:07:52.300
    | text      = And then crickets, no stories, 2000 plus stories and then no stories.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:56.699
    | text      = The word went out, shut that down.
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    | text      = So now obviously I can let everybody in on the hat trick because, you know, now the.
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    | timestamp = 01:08:06.139
    | text      = This particular cast of the fishing rod lure was somewhat successful, but not fully successful.
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    | text      = Plus it's good to let them know that they're not the only ones that play games.
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    | text      = OK.
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    | text      = So I'll just leave it at that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:18.180
    | text      = And again, I'm not here with some agency.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm not being advised by people.
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    | text      = I'm just here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Common sense.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And then I talked to a pachinic and then I talked to some other people and they're on
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    | text      = the same page and I wonder if they know each other.
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    | timestamp = 01:08:29.140
    | text      = Pachinic says they don't, but it's just people that get what's going on and know how to respond
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    | timestamp = 01:08:33.979
    | text      = to it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:08:34.979
    | text      = But that is pretty exciting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Pachinic.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And they say the stuff and it's like, do they know each other?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I'm like, oh, they probably, he said it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:43.659
    | text      = This noted psych warfare master and the world's greatest dirty trickster.
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    | timestamp = 01:08:48.300
    | text      = The two of them say they don't know each other, but they're suspiciously telling all the same
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    | text      = things that deny credibility, like beyond the pale of reality, like legitimately Steve
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    | text      = pachinic ends up saying that Donald Trump just wants to become president to straighten
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    | text      = things out.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And then he's going to disappear, right?
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    | text      = He's going to be president.
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    | text      = He might even step down after he fixes everything.
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    | text      = He doesn't want to be president.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:13.819
    | text      = He doesn't want to be president.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:14.819
    | text      = He just knows that they need to fix this Loki and the Oracle are together fighting, fighting
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    | text      = against everything.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:22.500
    | text      = It's nonsense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's, it's complete bullshit.
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    | text      = And that moment right there where Alex is like, I got other people telling me the same
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    | text      = things and I think they know each other, but they don't.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:31.380
    | text      = It's like, dude, come on, do better.
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    | text      = You're right there.
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    | text      = I'm watching his face too.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:38.699
    | text      = And he's like, he's like making a face, like he's processing it and he just can't finish
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    | timestamp = 01:09:44.279
    | text      = the job.
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    | text      = Like
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    | text      = I mean, pachinics on the show.
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    | text      = Imagine if, if pachinic weren't on at that moment, do you think he could have made the
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    | text      = connection?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:52.260
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:09:53.260
    | text      = Like he's got a star fuck pachinic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:54.260
    | text      = Meh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So if pachinic's not there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:09:56.460
    | text      = Not if he's being rude during a hurricane.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:58.260
    | text      = That's not, but that's after Las Vegas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:10:02.340
    | text      = Isn't real.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:03.340
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:04.340
    | text      = But that's after the operation in quotes is complete.
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    | text      = I mean, at a certain point, half like at this point, pachinic might as well say that Las
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:10.020
    | text      = Vegas, the city isn't even real.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:12.100
    | text      = I've never been there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:13.100
    | text      = I can't prove it's real.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:14.100
    | text      = I was there once, but that could have been a false flag.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:16.619
    | text      = Could have been race memory.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:17.939
    | text      = They could have built it just so when I showed up, they were like, oh, look how real it is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:21.899
    | text      = I've heard of that happening to a lot of people.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:23.500
    | text      = Oh, absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:24.500
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:25.500
    | text      = It happened at Sandy Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:26.500
    | text      = Totally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:27.500
    | text      = I don't even think it's a real city.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:10:29.260
    | text      = So we're going to talk now about December 29th where Steve pachinic comes back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:10:34.779
    | text      = There's going to be two things that happened on the 29th because we talked about the 29th
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:40.340
    | text      = already, but we missed some things.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:10:43.420
    | text      = Christmas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:44.420
    | text      = Uh, certainly it's coming up or just happened.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:47.460
    | text      = Whoops.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:10:48.460
    | text      = Just happened.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:49.460
    | text      = Did they do, do they do a Christmas episode?
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    | timestamp = 01:10:54.619
    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:55.619
    | text      = There's a war on Christmas.
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    | text      = You think they're not going to do a Christmas episode?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:10:57.819
    | text      = I know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:58.819
    | text      = No, I mean on Christmas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:59.819
    | text      = Uh, I don't think so, but they did do a new year's Eve episode, which we're going to cover
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    | timestamp = 01:11:04.260
    | text      = later.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:05.260
    | text      = I would, I would give anything to hear them try and, I know, I know, right.
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    | text      = Or like, or like do a, what I want more than anything right now is the Muppets Christmas
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    | timestamp = 01:11:21.979
    | text      = album, but replace John tender with Alex Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:11:26.939
    | text      = That would be amazing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:29.060
    | text      = I want them to do a live re I want them to do a live reading of a Christmas Carol, but
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:33.779
    | text      = just rewrite it as they see how that would work.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:36.819
    | text      = Like Scrooge is a fucking maker and this motherfucker is just trying to get a day off.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:42.359
    | text      = What is this?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:43.359
    | text      = Bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:44.359
    | text      = These ghosts are invading his personal space.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:46.140
    | text      = Oh, absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:47.140
    | text      = Trying to make him get rid of private property.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:48.140
    | text      = These ghosts are against prosperity.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:50.899
    | text      = A conservative Christmas Carol would have him shoot a ghost.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:55.220
    | text      = No, a libertarian.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He would, he would pull a shotgun out and be like intruder and shoot the ghost and that
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    | timestamp = 01:12:00.899
    | text      = would be the end.
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    | timestamp = 01:12:01.899
    | text      = It's interesting that you think he's conservative because on this 29th episode, he has something
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    | text      = to say about his political leanings.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = I just opposed totalitarianism.
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    | text      = I'm not anti-Islam, but I'm against funding radical Islam to take over the world.
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    | text      = And all Islam is radical Islam.
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    | text      = And it comes out of Saudi Arabia.
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    | text      = And then using the threat of it to take my freedoms and my family's freedoms.
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    | text      = I mean, I'm a real liberal folks.
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    | text      = I'm a constitutionalist.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Thomas Jefferson was a liberal.
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    | text      = I'm that kind of liberal, not the modern liberals with political correctness saying ban.
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    | text      = It's a, I'm dreaming of a white Christmas and they're actually doing that and saying
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    | text      = if a white person wants to eat Chinese food, it's, it's cultural appropriation.
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    | text      = They're actually banning that at universities.
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    | text      = I mean, you cannot be blacklisted because they said, we're not going to ban Halloween.
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    | text      = Get over it.
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    | text      = The people being offended by people in cowboy outfits dressed like a Nazi.
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    | text      = And I'm a real liberal.
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    | text      = People call me a libertarian, right winger, whatever, cause I'm pro gun.
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    | text      = The definitions are all scrambled, right?
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    | text      = He's a classical liberal, classical liberal.
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    | text      = So let's get to it.
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    | text      = Steve Pachana comes back on, on this 29th episode.
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    | text      = And at this point, Alex has transformed and he has decided he likes Trump as we saw on
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    | text      = December 15th.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = And on this episode is where I tracked it down.
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    | text      = This is where the soft coup narrative starts.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = So now let's get enjoy watching Alex get lied to in real time and not realize at all how
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    | text      = hard he's getting played.
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    | text      = You'll see it all.
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    | text      = You'll see the moments.
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    | text      = This is sad.
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    | text      = This is really fucking sad.
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    | text      = We have had a military to military relationship with the Russians that has been outstanding
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    | text      = since 91.
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    | text      = Now, contrary to the neocons, contrary to the narratives of civilians who would like
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    | text      = to say they bombed the Russians, what's a Russian conspiracy.
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    | text      = That's absolute.
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    | text      = And that's why the political class wants to talk about war with Russia in these debates.
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    | text      = They're so angry that the U S military is defying them and I'm not trying to lionize
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    | text      = the U S army especially, but it's exactly what you said here a decade ago.
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    | text      = They are literally the best Patriots we've got.
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    | text      = So at this point, what I think is not good.
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    | text      = What I think is happening there in code is that Steve Puchenik knows damn well that a
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    | text      = lot of the people in the campaign have connections to Russia and he is pre inoculating the idea
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    | text      = that, Oh yeah, of course they're going to be attacking Russia there, but it's secretly
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    | text      = because is he picking 2001 because of nine 11?
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    | text      = Is that what he's saying?
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    | text      = 91.
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    | text      = Oh, he said 91.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = 91 after the Berlin wall came down, I believe a few years after that.
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    | text      = But uh, yeah, I think that what he's doing is he's putting that into Alex's head.
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    | text      = The narrative in advance that like, look, Russia is great, Russia is great, which Alex
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    | text      = already is inclined to believe.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = That just doesn't make any sense though.
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    | text      = What do you mean?
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    | text      = Uh, I mean everything point by point, lay it out.
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    | text      = What do you mean?
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    | text      = I mean, he's saying that, uh, there was a military to military cooperation, the Russian
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    | text      = military and our military and Putin.
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    | text      = It's that same thing with Assad.
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    | text      = It's the same thing with the, the idea that Assad had a trilateral agreement with Russia
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    | text      = and military.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You know where that comes from.
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    | text      = Let's finish this clip.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = You'll see where it comes from.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Holding back so much of this.
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    | text      = Well, you have to understand, I mean, I, when I worked in government, my, my primary position
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    | text      = was always as a military officer.
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    | text      = When I went into intelligence, it was trained in that at MIT and at Harvard.
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    | text      = That was a secondary position, but I was proud to be an intelligence and of course then I
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    | text      = am a psychiatrist, but my, my loyalty has always been to the Republic as, as it has
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    | text      = been for Martin Dempsey, as it has been for general Flynn, many other generals who supported
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    | text      = our American positions and understood that our civilian leaders, remember most of them
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    | text      = have not been to war.
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    | text      = So a lot of these ideas are likely coming from people like Michael Flynn.
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    | text      = So he went to MIT, he was a military officer, right?
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    | text      = Then he went to MIT and Harvard and was trained in Intel.
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    | text      = I guess so.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He's a psychiatrist.
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    | text      = And he's a psychiatrist.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Um, what does MIT have a CO Intel program?
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    | text      = Like what is going on here?
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    | text      = Yeah, I guess so.
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    | text      = I mean, if you base it on a, what we're getting from this, uh, yeah, I guess.
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    | text      = Is that true?
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    | text      = Can I apply?
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    | text      = I, I don't...
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    | text      = I would go to MIT for, for fucking psych warfare.
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    | text      = That sounds awesome.
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    | text      = I think you got to get recruited.
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    | text      = You think so?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Like, like Alex Jones's dad?
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    | text      = Or it doesn't exist and you pretend you got recruited.
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    | text      = Oh, that's another good one.
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    | text      = Is that all you have to do?
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    | text      = How would it?
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    | timestamp = 01:16:40.159
    | text      = Oh, these guys are fucking crazy.
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    | text      = It's pretty wild.
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    | text      = If they're successfully pulling this shit off based on all of these lies and all that
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    | timestamp = 01:16:46.960
    | text      = shit, God, this would make a great movie.
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    | timestamp = 01:16:49.359
    | text      = One day it will be.
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    | timestamp = 01:16:50.359
    | text      = This would make an insanely good movie.
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    | timestamp = 01:16:52.079
    | text      = One day it will, uh, absolutely.
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    | timestamp = 01:16:53.720
    | text      = This is like Tinker Tailor, Soldier Spy, except it's real and, uh, we won't let Gary Oldman
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    | text      = play any of the characters.
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    | timestamp = 01:17:00.039
    | text      = And one, like the biggest mouthpiece of it is often drunk on air.
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    | text      = He's a notorious bigot who likes the taste of whiskey.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So, um, so in this next clip we get, uh, we get to a little bit more of the, uh, the counter
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    | text      = coup narrative because he mentioned a soft coup in that last clip a little bit.
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    | text      = And that's the soft coup is I guess, Hillary, uh, taking power or something like that.
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    | text      = And then the counter coup is what Steve Pachanik is involved in.
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    | text      = Yes, sir.
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    | text      = Let me throw this in then how, how seismic is it that we've had a huge, basically military
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    | text      = counter coup against the civilian insane people who are like, like a, a compulsive gambler
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    | text      = at a slot machine trying to conquer and start wars.
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    | text      = They can't win.
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    | text      = I mean, this is such a big deal to have it confirmed that our own military went around
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    | text      = Obama and the neo cons and gave the Russians and the Syrians all the authorization and
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    | text      = info they needed to defeat Al Qaeda and ISIS disturbing that with a bunch of special forces
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = people currently, you name it, they're all completely awake now.
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    | timestamp = 01:18:10.079
    | text      = I mean, the system has a big problem.
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    | text      = I don't see how they're going to put this back in the bottle.
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    | text      = Well let me put it this way.
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    | text      = This is, we call, I would call this or we call this a soft coup, soft coup, meaning
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    | text      = that we haven't overthrown the president.
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    | text      = We don't intend to overthrow the president.
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    | text      = There's not a violence involved.
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    | text      = They're not going to be guns in the street, but Alex at the same way you change the narrative
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    | text      = of the media, what's happening now, thanks to the bravery of these men who've been in
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    | text      = our military and our navy and also the men who were fired in Benghazi and a stand down
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    | text      = in Africa and the naval officers who were involved.
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    | timestamp = 01:18:49.399
    | text      = All these people stood out and have their day in court and continue to have that.
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    | timestamp = 01:18:55.399
    | text      = Some are heard, some aren't, but you have to remember our democracy and our Republic
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    | text      = is a very fluid entity.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:02.399
    | text      = It's not static.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:03.399
    | text      = It doesn't stay.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:04.760
    | text      = The truth is out in the public opinion, the military system wide is saying no to the tyranny.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:11.680
    | text      = What is that doing to the more corrupt elements of the establishment?
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    | timestamp = 01:19:15.000
    | text      = Well, they're getting scared and what happened is because of your ability to articulate in
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    | timestamp = 01:19:19.880
    | text      = our military, willing to stand one percent of the credit, sir.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:24.680
    | text      = Well, well, well, well, I'm not, I know, I know Alex, but we've known each other for
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    | timestamp = 01:19:29.520
    | text      = too long.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:30.520
    | text      = This is not, you know, we're not bragging here.
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    | text      = We're basically saying because of that narrative, you have a man like Trump come forward.
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    | text      = Whatever he may or may not be, he is changing the entire dynamics of the Republic and the
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    | text      = way they're getting elected.
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    | text      = Excuse me, Steve, you can keep blowing me, but don't stick your finger up my ass.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:53.159
    | text      = Okay.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:54.159
    | text      = That feels too good.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:55.159
    | text      = At least not on air.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:56.159
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:57.159
    | text      = Jesus.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:58.159
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He's essentially saying that because of you and your narrative ability, a Trump can arrive.
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    | text      = You have created Trump.
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    | text      = If you created Trump, well, God damn it.
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    | text      = If you don't want to be part of Trump, right.
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    | text      = And you, I mean, he's already jumped on board at this point, so it's, it's, it's more a
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    | text      = grandizing Alex and compromising him with flattery and so you'll, so you'll believe
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    | text      = this soft coon area on a day to day basis.
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    | text      = What does a guy like Steve Pachannik do?
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    | text      = Like just, just like as a, as a day to day thing, but he likes to read, uh, Betty likes
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    | text      = to, I don't know.
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    | text      = He lives in Florida.
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    | text      = He loves golfs.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = He's a retired dude.
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    | text      = I don't know what he does.
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    | text      = That's what schemes.
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    | text      = That's what I know.
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    | text      = It has to be, it has to be him like in a fucking office, just writing out reams upon reams
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    | text      = of possible like, or he's got a whiteboard like Steve Bannon, uh, like there's no, there's
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    | text      = no way that he can just come on these shows and pull off this bullshit.
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    | text      = That's one of the PR.
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    | text      = I think it's actually pretty easy when you're dealing with Alex.
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    | text      = If he already likes you and respect so far, we aren't having any trouble.
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    | text      = Well, whenever he likes you and respects you, as long as you keep being like, you're the
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    | text      = most important person in the world.
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    | text      = You're so amazing.
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    | text      = Now let me tell you this.
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    | text      = He's going to go along with it.
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    | text      = He's never going to push too hard back on things with a person like Steve.
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    | text      = So when this falling out about the Las Vegas thing happened, it didn't even happen with
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    | text      = Alex happened with David Knight.
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    | text      = If he'd said that on Alex's show, I don't know what would have happened.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = That would have been fucking awesome.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = I don't know what Alex would have done to it when a caller asks him about it, but put
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    | text      = in the hot seat that David Knight got put in, I don't know what Alex would have done.
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    | text      = He would have been like, that's interesting.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Probably.
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    | text      = And then hit that fucking commercial button.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = But jamming that button.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = Like with, uh, what you talked about on a Thursday, uh, whenever, uh, who was it that
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    | text      = brought it up and they went immediately to commercial.
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    | text      = Paul Joseph Watson brought up.
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    | timestamp = 01:21:54.800
    | text      = Yeah, when he fucking pulled that shit up and, uh, Alex Jones was like, yeah, no false
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    | timestamp = 01:21:59.760
    | text      = flag.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:00.760
    | text      = Bye.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:01.760
    | text      = Bye.
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    | text      = He's really good at that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Uh, so in this new shooters, I know PJW said it wasn't two shooters, but there's two shooters.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:06.600
    | text      = Bye.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:07.600
    | text      = I don't want to fire this guy.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:08.600
    | text      = So commercial.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:09.600
    | text      = Bye.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:10.600
    | text      = So, uh, in this next clip, Steve, uh, fakes, uh, his phone being fucked with, uh, like
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    | timestamp = 01:22:15.239
    | text      = his tradition on info wars.
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    | text      = They love to do that.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:18.199
    | text      = They love to fake hack.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:19.319
    | text      = He's being hacked.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:20.319
    | text      = Uh, and, uh, at the end of this clip, I think that you can pretty well assume that Roger
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    | timestamp = 01:22:25.439
    | text      = Stone and Steve Pachannik are working together.
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    | text      = I think it, I think it comes out in this clip.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:30.960
    | text      = Don't the crooks in the establishment known when they threaten you or me, all that does
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    | text      = is make us double down.
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    | text      = Don't they know our psychology?
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    | timestamp = 01:22:38.119
    | text      = No, because they have a, you see, I'm getting interfered with right now just while I'm talking
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    | text      = to you.
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    | text      = They're jamming me on this phone and this is a hard line and I'm not being paranoid.
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    | text      = I just know it.
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    | text      = You hear that?
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    | text      = No, it's probably just on your side or on my side, but they're jamming me on this side
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    | timestamp = 01:22:55.880
    | text      = cause this is an undisclosed number.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = My friend.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:58.520
    | text      = The point is these are our obsessional politicians who've never had real life experience.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:23:04.520
    | text      = Obama is created, developed and nurtured by the CIA.
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    | timestamp = 01:23:08.920
    | text      = He doesn't know anything else.
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    | text      = He's not a man of strategy.
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    | text      = He's not a conceptual man.
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    | text      = He's not a great thinker.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:15.079
    | text      = He's a man who's been told what to do, what to say, and he lied pathologically in a way
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    | text      = that absolutely stuns me.
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    | text      = He makes Nixon look like he wasn't the most honest man I've ever met.
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    | text      = Obama has repeatedly lied about it.
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    | timestamp = 01:23:33.239
    | text      = Got more time, but then I skipped the break and I'm going to quit doing this.
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    | timestamp = 01:23:35.479
    | text      = This is so important.
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    | timestamp = 01:23:36.479
    | text      = Let me throw this at you, Dr. Petchenik.
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    | timestamp = 01:23:38.279
    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Here's an example.
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    | text      = You brought up, um, Mr. Stone with the Trump camp, um, I mean really he's like the head
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    | text      = of the campaign, but he's out of it for other reasons, obviously.
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    | text      = Correct.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I mean this guy obviously stealing time out right there.
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    | text      = Steve Petchenik's response to that is correct.
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    | text      = He's out of it for other reasons.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:59.520
    | text      = Steve Petchenik knows what's going on.
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    | timestamp = 01:24:02.039
    | text      = Uh, okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So that presupposes that Alex has talked to Stone.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Stone has said he's basically running the campaign.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He had to leave for other reasons.
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    | text      = That means that Alex knows the reasons.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | timestamp = 01:24:16.960
    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:17.960
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I can be more effective outside than inside.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:19.960
    | text      = Yeah, of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Or whatever.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:21.960
    | text      = But that could also just be a, just be bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:24:23.720
    | text      = Steve, if he didn't have some awareness, his instinctual response would not be to respond
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:28.000
    | text      = correct.
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    | timestamp = 01:24:29.000
    | text      = The fact that he responds correct leads me to believe that he already knew, but at the
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:34.439
    | text      = same time, okay, I have to, I have to be the worst skeptic here.
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    | timestamp = 01:24:41.399
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:42.960
    | text      = Stone it's entirely possible Stone left because Stone is the worst person to have affiliated
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:49.180
    | text      = with your actual campaign and they wanted him gone.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:52.960
    | text      = Possibly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:53.960
    | text      = Like that's still a possibility and it's entirely possible if that's true for Stone to insist
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:59.859
    | text      = that he's still running the campaign because he's Roger fucking Stone.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:03.800
    | text      = He has to at the very least imagine that in the same way that somebody who's kicked out
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:08.239
    | text      = of a, like, you know, uh, the fifth beetle is still like, I'm a big reason the beetles
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    | timestamp = 01:25:13.079
    | text      = were successful.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:14.079
    | text      = You know, that fucking guy, whatever his fucking name.
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    | timestamp = 01:25:16.039
    | text      = Yeah, there you go.
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    | timestamp = 01:25:17.039
    | text      = Um, but look, all of those, the end result is the same.
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    | timestamp = 01:25:20.119
    | text      = It doesn't matter.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:21.119
    | text      = You're arguing like a little bit of nuanced semantics, but like the end result of whether
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    | timestamp = 01:25:25.699
    | text      = he was kicked out because he's too hot or something like that, or he left strategically
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:30.239
    | text      = in order to create a propaganda machine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:32.640
    | text      = The end result is he did create a propaganda machine in service of Trump.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:36.560
    | text      = That's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:37.560
    | text      = So whatever the actual reason for it is, is irrelevant.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:40.199
    | text      = He still did succeed in doing that.
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    | timestamp = 01:25:42.359
    | text      = I'm so pissed off that Pechenik said that Obama wasn't a, like, say whatever you want
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = about Obama.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:51.039
    | text      = That man was a fucking thinker.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:52.720
    | text      = Yeah, he's substantial.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:53.720
    | text      = How dare you?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:55.220
    | text      = I know, but at the same time, there's a lot of people who come on Alex's show who like
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:59.239
    | text      = say stuff like that.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:00.239
    | text      = And I'm like, well, that is code for racism.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:02.399
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:26:03.399
    | text      = I don't really think that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:04.399
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:05.399
    | text      = Pechenik isn't doing that out of race.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:06.399
    | text      = He's creating a false reality wherein a Trump can be considered.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:09.439
    | text      = Trump has lied every day, every fucking day about fucking everything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:16.119
    | text      = And for him to say that Obama is lying and that Obama isn't a great thinker.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:20.079
    | text      = Look, one of the big reasons that Obama wasn't a great president was because he was thinking
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:24.760
    | text      = too much.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:25.760
    | text      = Steve addresses this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:26.760
    | text      = Oh God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:27.800
    | text      = What a fuck, he's fucking, oh Christ.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:30.640
    | text      = That's in the next clip.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:31.640
    | text      = I'm going to use this one first.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:32.640
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:33.640
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:34.640
    | text      = Correct.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:35.640
    | text      = I mean, really, he's like the head of the campaign, but he's out of it for other reasons,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:38.399
    | text      = obviously.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:39.399
    | text      = Correct.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:40.399
    | text      = I mean, this guy, obviously top guy with Nixon, top guy with Bush, senior other folks, I mean,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:43.800
    | text      = running major political operations in third world countries, highly respected.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:48.600
    | text      = It's obvious what the guy is and does.
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    | text      = He came here before Trump came on and I'm not going to get into the inside baseball
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    | text      = of it, but he briefed me on stuff.
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    | text      = And then when you came on and talked about him a few weeks later, you laid out everything
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    | text      = he said word for word.
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    | text      = But then went on and said, even though I haven't talked to him and see what's happened.
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    | text      = And that's basically what he told me and about this whole Fisher in the system.
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    | text      = And Trump knows that he was explaining, no, Trump's really for real.
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    | text      = We're not going to let them break this country and destroy it.
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    | text      = They're globalists.
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    | text      = They want to roll us into this thing and they want to have a basic corporate takeover and
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    | text      = loot it.
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    | text      = They want to allow it.
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    | text      = And so it was just amazing to hear you then basically say what you knew he'd already told
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    | text      = me.
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    | text      = It's just very, very interesting to realize there's all these different camps in these
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    | text      = different intelligence agencies.
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    | text      = Well, the truth of the matter is there are those who believe in the truth.
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    | text      = We're called truthers.
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    | text      = And I take it not as an insult, but as a point of pride.
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    | text      = And I think your entire audience should take that as a point of pride.
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    | text      = So instead of addressing any issues, he just flatters Alex and his audience.
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    | text      = I mean, there are people that know the truth and we're called truthers mainly because all
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    | text      = we believe in is insane.
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    | text      = So okay.
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    | text      = So Alex even fucking maps it out perfectly.
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    | text      = You told me what Roger Stone already told me.
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    | text      = And you knew that he had already told me.
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    | text      = And you knew he had already told me.
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    | text      = He accidentally phrases it that way when that's supposed to not be what he believes.
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    | text      = He's so close to working this out.
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    | text      = It's exactly right on.
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    | text      = He's so close.
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    | text      = And the whole, like watching it is painful, but watching the actual video of it is like,
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    | text      = it's like, have you ever seen a video of a dog falling off a dock?
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    | text      = Like so there are videos that you can find I've seen once in a while in my life where
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    | text      = it's a dog who's hanging off a dock and it's scrambling with its paws, trying to stay on
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    | text      = the dock, but it's lower half is falling off.
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    | text      = It's just, you know, that dog's falling off the dock, but it's trying so hard.
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    | text      = That's what it's like to be, to watch Alex Jones be lied to by Steve and almost get it.
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    | text      = There's those moments where he's like, you're telling me the same things Roger Stone told
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    | text      = me and you, you knew that he told me and like, you're not going to get there.
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    | text      = You're falling off that dock.
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    | text      = What I see is a cat.
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    | text      = I see it's one of those videos of the cat where it's like, I know I can get the top
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    | text      = of that refrigerator.
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    | text      = I can jump from this table to the top of that refrigerator.
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    | text      = And then right.
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    | text      = Is it about to go?
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    | text      = It's like, Oh, my paws are slippery.
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    | text      = And it goes right down.
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    | text      = There are similarities.
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    | text      = There's similarities.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It's just sad to me.
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    | text      = It's really sad because you, you see the like sort of jump off point of like where
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    | text      = life could have been entirely different.
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    | text      = Like the world could be different.
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    | text      = If Alex Jones had been against Trump, I don't think he would have won.
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    | text      = And that's not to say that Alex is the reason that I know, I know it's enough of a population
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    | text      = right.
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    | text      = That had he, the margins were razor thin.
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    | text      = And if he had, if he had just like either been neutral, like he was in the Obama McCain
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    | text      = election or if he had been against Trump because, Hey, they tried to run a psy op on me or something
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    | text      = like that, it would have made it.
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    | text      = It would have made a huge difference.
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    | text      = And quite frankly, I think Alex Jones is going crazy and his entire operation has descended
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    | text      = into bigot filled madness since 2015, like before it was still bigoted.
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    | text      = Don't get me wrong.
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    | text      = But the level is so much higher now and the rhetoric is so dangerous that like, I think
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    | text      = we could have saved everybody a lot of trouble if that dog would have got on that dock.
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    | text      = Like if some miracle happened and he would have realized, fuck, Steve and Roger Stone
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    | text      = are clearly like, why are they pretending not to know each other yet they say, he even
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    | text      = says word for word, verbatim, the same stuff.
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    | text      = If he would have just put the pieces together, I'm not going to say he could have saved the
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    | text      = world.
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    | text      = No, I mean, well, if we're working under the operating position of neoliberalism is perhaps
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    | text      = the root cause of all of this, then it would be, well, yeah, well, which is neoliberalism
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    | text      = isn't good.
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    | text      = Neoliberalism is, is almost almost as bad as conservatism.
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    | text      = Correct.
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    | text      = So, I mean, Hillary, Hillary as president would have had the same result as Obama as
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    | text      = president wherein we're just pushing these people into more and more of a frenzy.
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    | text      = So it's entirely possible that this was inevitable, that Trump is the inevitability of a broken
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    | text      = Democrat or Republican capitalist, what, crypto kleptocratic nation?
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    | text      = Yeah, maybe.
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    | text      = Like if we're going to look at this from a tides of history standpoint, which we really
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    | text      = have to, because if you, if you dive into the day to day, this is all unreal, like this
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    | text      = is unreal.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:31:52.119
    | text      = Like in 2017, we're watching, we might as well be watching fucking gladiatorial combat
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    | text      = in the goddamn coliseum while, you know, fucking an emperor puts his thumb up and down
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    | text      = on people.
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    | text      = It is fucking insane.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So look at it from a tide of history standpoint and you see all of these little pieces coming
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    | text      = together, which perhaps made what is really going on an inevitability.
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    | text      = And instead of saying that it's Trump or it's Mercer, it's all of these things, you can
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    | text      = really point to all of these historical inertia factors that are just pushing us ever closer
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    | text      = to a complete fucking total collapse.
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    | text      = Can I, can I, uh, poke holes in your intellectualizing a tiny bit, please?
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    | text      = I don't think it matters fair.
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    | text      = That is a fair point.
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    | text      = Well, I mean, it is, it is interesting to, and I think 20 years from now, that's a fun
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    | text      = conversation to have, right?
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    | timestamp = 01:32:49.439
    | text      = But the reality is whatever happened did happen, right?
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    | text      = And whether, whether Trump and this sort of, you know, like you described kleptocratic,
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    | text      = uh, unhinged, unhinged meaning in the way I'm using it, unchecked capitalism, no, not
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    | text      = even that, like untethered to ideology, even really.
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    | text      = It's not even like, it would be easier if he was just a white supremacist, right?
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    | text      = Because then it'd be like, Oh, that's what you believe in, right?
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    | text      = As opposed to like, I'm going to take advantage of some of the, I mean, I have leanings towards
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    | text      = white supremacy.
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    | timestamp = 01:33:24.500
    | text      = I'm gonna take advantage of that block as best I can.
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    | timestamp = 01:33:27.319
    | text      = Uh, the, the untethered ideological, uh, steal everything, uh, gin up and really excite these
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    | timestamp = 01:33:36.279
    | text      = dangerous conservative, uh, mill, uh, militia types.
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    | text      = Whether that's inevitable, doesn't matter because the Mercers did do this, right?
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    | timestamp = 01:33:46.479
    | text      = Alex Jones did do this.
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    | timestamp = 01:33:48.159
    | text      = Trump is the person I am so mad that Barbara club and the 45 club is in play.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:55.680
    | text      = If Barbara Tuchman wasn't like in her seventies, God damn it, she would write the greatest
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    | timestamp = 01:33:59.880
    | text      = book about this.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:00.880
    | text      = Also, I will, we're not going to live that long.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:04.939
    | text      = I will write, it takes a while to write a book.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:07.039
    | text      = I will write it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:08.039
    | text      = If people just fucking donate and not have to have a job.
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    | timestamp = 01:34:11.319
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:12.319
    | text      = I have a lot of thoughts.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:13.319
    | text      = Anyway, we have one more clip of Steve Pechenik before we get into something that I think
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    | text      = is fun.
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    | timestamp = 01:34:18.560
    | text      = And then a is a little bit of a departure to end the episode, but here is the last clip
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    | text      = of Steve Pechenik and again, Alex does not get the picture that he's being played.
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    | text      = Whoever Trump is, he is a force to contend with and he will not tolerate this kind of
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    | text      = stuff.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:35.640
    | text      = I'm going to give out some not secret stuff, but I'm going to give out just to just the
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    | timestamp = 01:34:38.119
    | text      = facts.
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    | timestamp = 01:34:39.119
    | text      = This is now out.
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    | text      = I was told months ago that Trump would go after Hillary on the rape stuff, uh, with
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    | text      = protecting Clinton.
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    | text      = I was told that they were waiting for them to attack on nine 11, uh, and think Trump
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    | text      = was weak on that.
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    | timestamp = 01:34:51.279
    | text      = Trump's ready to just absolutely annihilate them with it because they don't know they've
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    | text      = lost all credibility.
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    | text      = Also just fun to remember that on nine 11 Trump's response was now my building looks
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    | timestamp = 01:35:01.520
    | text      = bigger.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:02.520
    | text      = He said that on air when he was interviewed on the TV news.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:04.680
    | text      = Now I have the tallest building in New York.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:06.880
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:07.880
    | text      = And so the idea that he could be like, your brother was president on nine 11 like, well,
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    | timestamp = 01:35:11.640
    | text      = what did you actually say?
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    | timestamp = 01:35:13.439
    | text      = Like the idea that that's a good trap, I don't know if it necessarily is.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:17.140
    | text      = There are no traps.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:18.140
    | text      = There is nothing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:19.140
    | text      = So how fucking fun would it have been if Alex Jones is fantasy scenario that Roger Stone
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    | timestamp = 01:35:25.239
    | text      = has clearly fed him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:26.439
    | text      = They're like, they're trying to get, they're trying to lure jab into this so Trump can
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:30.560
    | text      = be like, what am I building?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:31.640
    | text      = Seven.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:32.640
    | text      = Right.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:33.640
    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:34.640
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:35.640
    | text      = If that became the debate, holy shit, that would be amazing.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:38.520
    | text      = Then I would have voted for Trump.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:40.119
    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = And Trump basically has been recruited by Patriots.
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    | text      = He didn't want to do it by the way.
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    | text      = On a political, what they know could be a suicide mission and, and, and people put real
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    | text      = real statesmen.
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    | text      = Don't tell you all this stuff, folks.
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    | text      = I mean, all the other people are cowards.
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    | text      = They can be intimidated.
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    | text      = Whatever you want to say about Trump, he, he, believe me, they wouldn't let me know
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    | text      = some of this stuff.
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    | text      = If it wasn't the case, they wouldn't lie to me like they have recruited him on a suicide
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    | text      = mission to try to save America.
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    | text      = Trump believes the narrative.
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    | text      = The narrative is real.
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    | text      = It trumps all these other fake people.
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    | text      = We've got a bet on it.
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    | text      = And then you came on when I hadn't even gone, talked about the shed or had Trump on and
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    | text      = you already basically knew all about it, but not even though you knew him, you understood
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    | text      = the narrative because it was the truth and a way out of it.
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    | text      = And I am, I'm so fortunate as America isn't and you are to have Trump come forward, spend
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    | text      = his time, his energy, his money.
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    | text      = He doesn't need to do this, but he sees, and this is a very smart individual.
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    | text      = I'm not talking only book smart.
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    | text      = He's incredibly shrewd.
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    | text      = He understood what happened in nine 11 because he knows Silverstein.
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    | text      = He knows the world trade center better than anybody who cares.
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    | text      = Why would he know the world trade center better than everybody, anyone other than abject hatred
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    | text      = for it.
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    | text      = So then again, I mean, you saw that right there.
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    | text      = There's a, he almost got it dog dog just fell off the dock.
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    | text      = See the thing is he was told Trump is going to go after nine 11 Trump is going to go after
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    | text      = the rapes.
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    | text      = Obviously Roger Stone told him, obviously somebody in the campaign told him it was Roger.
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    | text      = So I think that's the only person, I think that's the only person that he had access
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    | text      = to at this point.
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    | text      = You've sold me on the two of them working together.
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    | text      = Oh shit.
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    | text      = It's fucking obvious.
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    | text      = Why did you fight with me so much at the top of the, cause we didn't know.
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    | text      = I didn't know the rest of the part and I just don't believe that people are successful.
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    | text      = I would like to, I would like to tell you that an hour and 20 minutes ago I said a lot
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    | text      = of this is about clips that I'm going to play and what's the show?
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    | text      = I wait for an hour and 20 minutes to talk.
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    | text      = It's been like 10 months of us doing, you have to know that I have a plan.
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    | text      = I'm not going to make a bold assertion at the beginning.
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    | text      = I'm not going to back up.
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    | text      = See, now this is why we have the open of, you know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't
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    | text      = That's my job.
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    | text      = Fair enough.
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    | text      = So, uh, I think we can put the baby to bed, uh, in terms of Roger Stone and Steve Pachannik
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    | text      = we're working together pretty early on and I am.
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    | text      = Is there any way that we can prove that concretely?
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    | text      = Uh, without hacking their emails, no.
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    | text      = See that's, that's the thing because if we actually have concrete proof of that, that's
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    | text      = a whole different story.
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    | text      = Well, yeah.
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    | text      = The problem is it is obvious- I think Alex gives amazing circumstantial
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    | text      = No, exactly.
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    | text      = It's obvious that they were working together, but we can't pull up, look, if we're in court,
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    | text      = no judge is going to be like, well, obviously Alex Jones' show is a perfect evidence.
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    | text      = Well, unless I'm the judge.
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    | text      = And then I'll be like, oh, this is, he's guilty.
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    | text      = Or if Judy's the judge, I bet we could crush that.
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    | text      = Or if it's Reinhold.
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    | text      = Oh man.
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    | text      = Imagine if we went on TV with Alex Jones as, as like a Judge Judy show.
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    | text      = Or Judge Mills Lane.
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    | text      = Knowledge, knowledge fight is suing Infowars.
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    | text      = Small claims.
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    | text      = My small claim is that he's made some big claims.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = We would like a couple of grand.
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    | text      = Anyway, I think we would be the defendants in any suit.
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    | text      = I think he's going to sue the shit out of us.
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    | text      = Oh, absolutely.
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    | text      = I think once he realizes that conceivably we are the people who are doing the most potent,
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    | text      = dangerous work about his credibility, I do think he might sue us for playing clips.
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    | text      = That would be fascinating.
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    | text      = I want to, can we represent ourselves?
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    | text      = I will.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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    | text      = Also, I am-
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    | text      = I'll be your lawyer.
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    | text      = You'll be mine.
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    | text      = I am going as a sovereign citizen though.
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    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'd like to say up front, I do not recognize the authority of this court.
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    | text      = I am showing up here as a representative for Dan Friesen, but I am not.
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    | text      = I will be writing my name in lowercase letters.
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    | text      = Thank you very much.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, you can capitalize the first letter.
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    | text      = That's not all of them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:50.960
    | text      = Fair, fair.
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    | text      = Anyway.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I do not have a signature and I don't have any fingerprints anymore.
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    | timestamp = 01:39:55.159
    | text      = So Alex Jones, this is a big piece of the 2015 investigation and I think this is actually
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    | text      = where we'll put it to bed.
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    | text      = Yeah, I think you're right.
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    | text      = Steve Pacanich, Roger Stone, in league with the mysterious 45 club, 45 group.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:40:10.399
    | text      = And the extraordinary gentleman.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You got Sean Connery, Quatermain.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = Naturally.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Forgot what-
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Dr. Jekyll.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Dr. Jekyll, of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The guy from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, right?
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    | timestamp = 01:40:26.600
    | text      = Really?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:27.600
    | text      = Who's the Indian dude?
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    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:30.560
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:31.560
    | text      = Why would you pay attention to that movie?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:32.800
    | text      = I read the graphic novel.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:34.840
    | text      = Oh, did you?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:36.840
    | text      = Never did that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:37.840
    | text      = It's all right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:38.840
    | text      = Anyway, we have a little bit of a bonus-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:41.399
    | text      = Tom Cruise from The Mummy, I guess now?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:43.399
    | text      = Sure, sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:44.399
    | text      = Russell Crowe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We got a bonus here at the end.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We're done with our 2015 investigation aspect of this episode.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:40:51.439
    | text      = But in going back through, I re-listened to the December 29th episode.
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    | text      = And because I did so, I realized that I turned it off too early.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:41:01.279
    | text      = Because Alex Jones has his friend Kevin Booth on, who is the guy who was Bill Hicks' producer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:08.800
    | text      = And the two of them are idiots.
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    | timestamp = 01:41:09.800
    | text      = Right.
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    | timestamp = 01:41:10.800
    | text      = Killed Lincoln.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:13.800
    | text      = So the two of them are on because Kevin Booth has a guest, a friend who he had interviewed
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:19.760
    | text      = for an investigative film that he's doing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:22.399
    | text      = This guy was a gentleman by the name of Dr. Yala.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:26.699
    | text      = And he has done a lot of work in terms of interviewing people who've defected from ISIS.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:34.319
    | text      = And I actually have his bio pulled up here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Dr. Yala's research mainly focuses on terrorism, radicalization, and countering violent extremism.
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    | text      = He has authored and co-authored several articles and books on the subject of terrorism and
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    | text      = violence including First Responders Guide to Professionally Interacting with Muslim
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:50.920
    | text      = Communities, Law Enforcement, Emergency and Firefighters, Understanding and Responding
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:54.920
    | text      = to Terrorism, a complete model to deal with terrorism and understanding and responding
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:59.159
    | text      = to terrorism.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:00.159
    | text      = Dr. Yala over the years has interviewed cadres representing over 20 terrorist organizations.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:05.439
    | text      = The ISIS defector interviews of late are unique in the world as he was one of the first researchers
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:10.380
    | text      = who managed to reach ISIS defectors and persuade them to talk about their stories openly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:15.119
    | text      = Editorially, in parentheses, I'm going to add this, without torture.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:20.039
    | text      = Most of those were also video recorded for future documentaries.
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    | timestamp = 01:42:23.680
    | text      = Ahmet S. Yala, PhD, that's a real degree.
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    | timestamp = 01:42:29.840
    | text      = He formerly served as...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He did get it from Sri Lanka though.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He formerly served as professor and the chair of sociology department at Haran University
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    | text      = in Turkey.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Dr. Yala earned both his master's and PhD degrees in criminal justice and information
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:41.819
    | text      = science from the University of North Texas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Dr. Yala served as the chief of counter-terrorism and operations division for the Turkish National
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    | timestamp = 01:42:48.720
    | text      = Police.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:49.720
    | text      = He's written multiple books and at this point he is in hiding for the most part because
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:55.880
    | text      = of the incredibly dangerous work that he does.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:59.560
    | text      = Yeah, because...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, and ISIS wants to kill him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:01.960
    | text      = He's the cultural revolution.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's Dr. Feng Yulan, essentially.
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    | text      = And ISIS wants to kill him because he has talked to people who have defected from ISIS.
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    | text      = He knows who those people are and he's gotten information from them that they do not want
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    | text      = to be out.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = Kevin Booth was on with Alex.
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    | text      = And the reason that I didn't get to this interview is because they have terrible tech difficulties
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    | text      = and I thought that they just abandoned the interview.
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    | text      = I think it was smart for Kevin Federline to change his name after the whole Britney break
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    | text      = Papasau.
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    | text      = I made a big mistake in not covering this interview and I'm going to rectify that now.
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    | text      = This interview is damning in many ways and I'm going to start it with Alex Jones introducing
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    | text      = the guest, Dr. Yala, and this is before he allows the guest to talk.
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    | text      = Wait.
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    | text      = So Dr. Yala goes on Alex Jones' show?
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    | text      = Because of his relationship with Kevin Booth.
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    | text      = Kevin Booth is doing a documentary where he went to Turkey and done a bunch of research.
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    | text      = So is Dr. Yala an insane person?
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    | text      = It seems so far what you've described to me is somebody who knows what the fuck he's talking
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    | text      = about.
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    | text      = Let's see what happens when an actual scholar shows up accidentally on Info Wars.
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    | text      = But first-
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    | text      = But first-
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    | text      = Yala did not know what he was getting into.
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    | text      = I don't think so.
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    | text      = But also, here's how Alex Jones sets it up.
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    | text      = It's important to take note of this because I think he would redo this afterwards if he
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    | text      = You have gone into the most dangerous areas in south central LA to Skid Row to make your
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    | text      = films that have aired on, I mean, you name it, Showtime, HBO, so many other channels.
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    | text      = Even Drug War 1 and 2 that I was honored to consult on.
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    | text      = So folks know Kevin Booth is.
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    | text      = But Kevin recently just got back from Turkey.
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    | text      = He lives in LA.
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    | text      = He's visiting family.
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    | text      = He's a Texan.
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    | text      = Visiting family out in Fredericksburg.
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    | text      = And he said, man, I've got incredible stuff from the Middle East.
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    | text      = And then I was looking at who he was going to bring on the show in about 30 minutes.
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    | text      = This particular doctor.
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    | text      = And I was like, wait a minute, Joe Biggs knows who that is.
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    | text      = This is the guy that's getting ISIS defectors to defect and expose that the West and the
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    | text      = Turkish government and others are funding him.
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    | text      = This guy's in hiding.
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    | text      = This guy's really big.
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    | text      = He's interviewed him.
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    | text      = We've got a three minute super cut we're going to play here in a moment.
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    | text      = So Alex Jones has suggested and presented this as he knows who this guy is.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And he's saying that he's exposing that the U.S. and the West.
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    | text      = He's getting people to defect from ISIS as opposed to interviewing defectors.
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    | text      = I don't believe that he's getting people.
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    | text      = He's not convincing people to defect, is he?
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    | text      = Not that I'm aware of.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I don't think that's the case.
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    | text      = I don't think that's the case.
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    | text      = I think he's researching terrorism and what causes people.
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    | text      = They play the super cut and he goes into some really interesting ideas about like what are
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    | text      = the biggest identifiers for what puts someone at risk of being joining ISIS.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And generally it's having a family member who has been killed by U.S. drone strike or
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    | text      = something like that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Who would've guessed?
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    | text      = Poverty.
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    | text      = There's the basically a lot of it is, well, you'd kind of expect that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = These are the motivations that end up driving people towards that.
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    | text      = And he knows that from interviewing the people who have been like, this is too hot.
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    | text      = I got to get out of here.
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    | text      = The way we reacted after World War I caused World War II.
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    | text      = The way we are reacting after 9-11 caused ISIS.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Or even Desert Storm.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = If you want to go back even further.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = But that, I mean, then you get into like a, you know, chicken egg or a chai kong.
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    | text      = Anyways, America created its own enemies.
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    | text      = So, but Alex Jones is presenting it as this guy is exposing that the West is funding ISIS
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    | text      = and created ISIS.
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    | text      = He does not know that that is not what is going to be exposed in this interview.
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    | text      = I have two clips.
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    | text      = They're a little long, but they're necessary.
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    | text      = And I don't want to deprive them of context.
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    | text      = This first one I have just labeled, Dr. Yala is not an info warrior.
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    | text      = Trying to get started here with your incredible historic interviews with these ISIS people.
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    | text      = Please continue.
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    | text      = Give us the big picture.
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    | text      = In one of the interviews with Kevin, you talked about the fact that it's just unprecedented.
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    | text      = I believe you said that ISIS is being used to basically take Syria away.
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    | text      = I mean, what's the geopolitical aim here?
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    | text      = Who's really behind ISIS, sir?
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = We had interviewed around 30 ISIS defected as of now.
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    | text      = And this question was one of the questions I asked them during our interview.
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    | text      = I have three answers to this question.
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    | text      = Most of the time, the defectors answered in similar way.
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    | text      = The first, they are good at Syria and Iran is behind ISIS.
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    | text      = The second, Russia is behind ISIS.
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    | text      = And the third, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey behind ISIS.
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    | text      = The ISIS fighters or the terrorists who had been in the field and fought with ISIS think
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    | text      = that those three countries are behind the fertilizer or forcing factors behind ISIS.
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    | text      = They think Syria, because Syria and Iran are acting together in the region, and they think
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    | text      = that Assad is trying to show the whole world that if you do not work with me, you have
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    | text      = to work with these animals.
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    | text      = So here, have a good time.
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    | text      = Agreed.
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    | text      = The second-
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    | text      = I don't think there's any evidence that Assad's behind ISIS.
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    | text      = This is what they say.
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    | text      = I'm right now talking about the research.
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    | text      = That was my next question.
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    | text      = How do you know they have it defected to you to give you this info?
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    | text      = This is through our connections and my past experience, because I have interrogated and
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    | text      = interacted with over 10,000 terrorists over the 70 years of time.
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    | text      = So it is basically based on our experience and also you can see and understand the stories
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    | text      = are through what they are talking and through their narrative.
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    | text      = For example, when I asked about Russia, they said there are Russian generals who are at
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    | text      = the age of around 40, 45.
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    | text      = They claim that they are retired from Russian military as general.
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    | text      = They converted to Islam and right now they are fighting for the ISIS.
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    | text      = And when they describe those generals, they were the ones who were making the critical
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    | text      = decisions on the battlefield.
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    | text      = And one of the fighters told me that I never trusted them because they were there in the
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    | text      = name of Russia.
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    | text      = I asked them if they were Chechen.
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    | text      = He said, no, these are real, belong to Russians.
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    | text      = And they are the ones who were steering us towards the war.
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    | text      = So I was kind of checking through the interview.
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    | text      = So he's saying, because his accent is a little bit thick, he's saying that there are 40 to
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    | text      = 45 year old Russian retired military personnel who are directing, who are leading ISIS.
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    | text      = Some ISIS groups, ISIS battlefields, they are making battlefield decisions.
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    | text      = He's saying that that is information that he has gotten from defected ISIS fighters.
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    | text      = And whether or not you want to deem him credible or not is a decision that you have to make.
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    | text      = Or whether you deem the information that the person is giving him as credible is your decision.
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    | text      = He is, like I've looked into it a little bit, he does have an incredible track record and
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    | text      = a 20 year history of interviewing 10,000 terrorists that he's interviewed over the years.
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    | text      = So he's consistently given three answers.
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    | text      = It's Syria plus Iran, it is Russia, and it is Turkey.
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    | text      = And Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey.
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    | text      = Those three answers are what he's consistently given by ISIS defectors.
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    | text      = So you can either accept that as each one of them is getting different information.
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    | text      = They're in cells as opposed to a unified group.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Or-
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    | text      = I think that's a big piece of it.
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    | text      = I think that's exactly what's going on.
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    | text      = Because ISIS isn't a group in the same way-
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    | text      = ISIS isn't a thing.
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    | text      = In the same way that, I mean, this is a terrible analogy to make because Alex would love me
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    | text      = to make this analogy, but in the same way that Antifa isn't a group, ISIS isn't a group
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    | text      = where they have like the heads of all the local ISIS chapters meet together.
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    | text      = It's not a real country.
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    | text      = It's not a real nation.
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    | text      = So that's why we can see ISIS taking-
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    | text      = There's very likely a piece of it that is swayed by Russia.
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    | text      = Very likely there is a piece that's swayed by Iran.
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    | text      = Well, Syria is absolutely involved there.
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    | text      = Well, and we'll get to that in the next clip.
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    | text      = He actually has some really interesting proof of it.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Well, it's hard, so then we're talking about if that is possible-
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    | text      = It's entirely possible that all three different types are being accurate.
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    | text      = It's entirely possible that what's really going on with ISIS is that it is a loosely
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    | text      = connected group of people who are then taking responsibility for so many different terrorist
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    | text      = attacks because they are directed by their battlefield generals, if you will.
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    | text      = And a lot of times they probably end up fighting with each other in ways that are unpredictable.
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    | text      = Do you remember when the NWO happened in the WCW?
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    | text      = It was pretty like-
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    | text      = I do remember when they ended up-
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    | text      = It was like one big group, but then it ended up turning into the Wolf Pack and then Hollywood
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    | text      = and the Black and White and then the Luchador World Order and the Hispanic group came around.
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    | text      = There's something of that.
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    | text      = It was a central idea to ISIS at one point and then it became fractured.
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    | text      = There's a whole lot of possibilities in terms of this and I don't know-
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    | text      = Or maybe it's just different groups of people who were looking for funding and different
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    | text      = It's possible.
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    | text      = Like the only way you fight a war on this level is with money and they all need money
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    | text      = and they don't necessarily work or live together.
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    | text      = So if they don't have a centralized tax plan or whatever it is you want to go to, they
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    | text      = all have to have money to support themselves.
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    | text      = So they all have to find a way to get that money and if their goals temporarily align
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    | text      = with Russia, they get Russian money.
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    | text      = It's like doing odd jobs.
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    | text      = They're mercenaries less than they are a cohesive ideology.
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    | text      = It's ideologue mercenaries.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It's like we want to get a caliphate, but we also will kill tons of people for you if
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    | text      = you want us to.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = They're the second sons.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = You know the only possibility that's not true in my mind, the only thing I'm excluding from
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    | text      = my mind is that this guest is misrepresenting his research.
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    | text      = That's agreed.
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    | text      = He is telling the truth in full blatant disregard for the rules of Infowars.
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    | text      = Now there's a couple of things that I need you to remember that I think might have slipped
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    | text      = your mind.
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    | text      = This one, this first one probably not, and that is that Alex set it up by saying that-
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    | text      = America did it.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = America's finding it.
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    | text      = And that this guest is great.
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    | text      = He has a great reputation.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = All this stuff.
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    | text      = The second thing you almost certainly have forgotten, and that is that on December 29th,
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    | text      = we covered this on the last 2015 episode, it begins with Alex Jones pretending that
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    | text      = Infowars is being hacked.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Being hacked by the, he believes that it is the Turkish Gulen people and what have you.
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    | text      = I need you to keep that in your mind for what is going to happen two clips from now.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Keep that in your mind because I have a very strong theory about what is actually happening.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = And it turns out, I think he might've actually been hacked.
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    | text      = No shit.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I will be God fucking damn.
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    | text      = I think he might've actually-
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    | text      = So if you have, oh my God.
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    | text      = So he's got the Turkey guy on there.
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    | text      = The Turkish army is looking for him and they're going to go through that?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = Oh, okay.
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    | text      = Nevermind.
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    | text      = I don't think it was the Gulen people.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = I jumped into it.
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    | text      = I think the suspect is wrong.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = But let's finish this clip.
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    | text      = Sir, the only line I've seen on that, doctor, is that the Russians in Chechnya and other
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    | text      = areas basically try to run the radicals out and just say, get out of the country.
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    | text      = Again, he very specifically said he asked these people if they were Chechens and they
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    | text      = were not.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And they said no.
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    | text      = And some of them have then been coming to Syria, but I don't even think the CIA and
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    | text      = others who've been caught up to their eyeballs working with ISIS and NATO have said that
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    | text      = the Russians, well, that would be full spectrum dominance if the Russians were running ISIS
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    | text      = and countering ISIS.
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    | text      = Which would be like what you accuse the globalists of doing.
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    | text      = Sure would be.
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    | text      = I don't say running ISIS, but people in ISIS said that those three countries or those three
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    | text      = groups at least have taken it, you know, they were at least using ISIS for their own causes.
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    | text      = Is that the cut to people?
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    | text      = Oh, man.
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    | text      = I was about to say, I don't know how ISIS would follow Russians.
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    | text      = I mean, oh boy, do I, I sure know why they would do that.
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    | text      = Well, now let's take a step back.
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    | text      = He listed a total of like eight countries and the only one that Alex is sticking on
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    | text      = is Russia.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = It's the only one that he's like, he does not, he doesn't, he doesn't even really necessarily
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    | text      = fight back too hard on the idea of Syria or any of these other countries, Qatar, Saudi
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    | text      = Arabia, obviously Saudi Arabia is obviously Saudi Arabia did
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    | text      = 9-11 and Iran probably is not worth fighting about, you know, like in terms of, but he
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    | text      = already hates Iran because of the Iran deal.
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    | text      = So that's fine.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = But he finds time in his busy schedule to argue that there's no way Russia.
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    | text      = Well, if there's no way Russia, then there's no way Syria, because that's his, that's already
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    | text      = his argument is that Syria is Syria is part of Russia.
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    | text      = So now in this next clip, Dr. Yala pretty much lays out a very concrete case that Assad
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    | text      = and ISIS are working together based on his experience.
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    | text      = And do you know what's awesome about somebody who knows what they're fucking talking about?
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    | text      = When asked a direct question, he says, my proof is the people that I've talked to.
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    | text      = He does not say, I know this is true, right?
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    | text      = He is still saying that he's copping to the idea that like, I'm just reporting what I
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    | text      = found in my exactly.
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    | text      = It's entirely possible.
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    | text      = I, my data sample is not everybody, so it's entirely possible that this is not necessarily
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    | text      = true.
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    | text      = Kind of what not liars do.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Isn't it weird?
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    | text      = Alex must have lost.
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    | text      = Alex must've been like, wait, wait, wait.
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    | text      = You don't know.
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    | text      = 100%.
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    | text      = His face.
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    | text      = I don't understand.
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    | text      = He's flummoxed.
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    | text      = Well, he was quiet and Kevin booth is there the entire time and he knows to shut the fuck
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    | text      = up.
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    | text      = He just brought a chaotic element into Alex's life.
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    | text      = And he's watching to, Kevin is probably having the time of his life.
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    | text      = Oh, I imagine.
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    | text      = And so I want to also be clear at this point, that last clip, except for when he was dating
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    | text      = Britney Spears.
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    | text      = Oh, that was the best.
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    | text      = Oh, so good.
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    | text      = Super rich.
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    | text      = That last clip, uh, was over Skype and then Skype gets hacked.
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    | text      = And so they have to do this next, uh, when they come back from commercial, their Skype
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    | text      = isn't working and they have to use the phone.
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    | text      = And so it sounds a little different, uh, but also it's relevant to my theory.
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    | text      = Now is he, are we confident he's in the United States hiding?
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    | text      = I'm not confident of anything at this point.
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    | text      = We have some technical difficulties with your hand just wherein I knocked over the webcam
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    | text      = and spilled and spilled a shit ton of monster energy drink.
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    | text      = So if anybody would like monster energy drink, it is on Dan's floor and leg.
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    | text      = Um, yeah, I, I'm, I'm confident that he's in the United States in so much as I don't
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    | text      = really care to wrestle with it.
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    | text      = Like I don't want to argue with, I don't disbelieve.
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    | text      = That's not, that's not what I'm saying.
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    | text      = I'm saying more as in if, if we're talking about this, uh, his, if we're saying that
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    | text      = the Skype was hacked, it is not because he's in some sort of a remote area.
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    | text      = Wherein the signal just may have dropped.
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    | text      = No, it's possible.
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    | text      = Oh, look, I don't have, I don't have a concrete answer on this.
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    | text      = That's entirely possible.
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    | text      = Even if he's in the fucking United States, it could have dropped.
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    | text      = No, of course.
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    | text      = But I want, I'm bringing that up mostly just to keep it fresh in your head.
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    | text      = That's all right.
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    | text      = Uh, so in this next clip, uh, Dr. Yala, uh, he, like I, like I mentioned a second ago,
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    | text      = he lays out a really convincing argument for why, uh, Assad and ISIS are working together.
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    | text      = And Alex has a very negative reaction to it.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = Dr. Amit S. Yala, ICSVE.org, read more on the site, B-I-V-O-L dot B-G.
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    | text      = I got to try to get this guy back up sometime when we're not having Skype problems to really
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    | text      = do research and then ask him a bunch of hardcore questions.
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    | text      = Um, I mean, I could see the Russians trying to infiltrate ISIS.
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    | text      = I could see the Russians doing something like that, but ISIS defectors telling him Russia
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    | text      = runs me.
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    | text      = Um, he, I mean, I think he's saying he's done so many interrogations.
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    | text      = He believes these aren't infiltrators or double or triple agents, but look what's happened
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    | text      = at Guantanamo Bay.
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    | text      = Just basically theorizing what this person is saying when he's made it very clear what
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    | text      = he's saying.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Wild.
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    | text      = I'm not saying he's wrong.
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    | text      = I don't want to spend a little bit of time that we have a base with the doctor to get
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    | text      = off into that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, I think he's, he's telling you what they're telling him.
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    | text      = I mean, you know, I think my experience over there is that it's chaos and that is very
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    | text      = complicated in that you have a lot of people with a lot of agendas trying to get money,
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    | text      = trying to dominate, trying to create their own things.
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    | text      = And it's, it's a very chaotic situation.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Well, well, continually, sort of the key points you want to make to the public and folks need
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    | text      = to know, go ahead, doctor.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Now, for example, uh, I always questioned why Assad and ISIS are not fighting each other.
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    | text      = They claimed it.
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    | text      = They are there to get rid of the Syrian regime.
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    | text      = So just real quick, what he's saying is that they're not fighting each other.
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    | text      = Well, no, but he's also saying that one of the questions that he runs into when he's
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    | text      = interrogating, uh, interviewing these ISIS defectors is why are we, why is ISIS never
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    | text      = fighting Assad?
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    | text      = Which is an interesting question.
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    | text      = Well, I think the obvious answer there is that the rebels are not part of ISIS.
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    | text      = And so if, if ISIS is in Syria, then the American and Russian governments both can say that
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    | text      = they are fighting against ISIS when in reality what they're doing is fighting against rebels
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    | text      = who are fighting against Assad.
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    | text      = So there's a very pro Assad position that both the United States and Russia take in
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    | text      = order to maintain some sort of stability there.
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    | text      = Whereas if the, the rebels actually got rid of Assad, then Syria is up for grabs at that
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    | text      = point.
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    | text      = And we all know that Assad and Russia and the United States military have an arrangement.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = But, uh, listen to this very, uh, very concrete example, uh, that Yaela gives that Alex makes
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    | text      = him freak out.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = In their history, ISIS never fought against Bashar.
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    | text      = Uh, for example, when they captured Tel Aviv, they were running refineries over there and
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    | text      = the refineries were broken, so they talked to Syrian government and Assad send them engineers
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    | text      = to fix those refineries.
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    | text      = They let Syrian engineers fix the refineries for like a week and then they started to sell
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    | text      = oil to Assad, to the Bashar regime.
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    | text      = And some of their fighters started to question this act and they said, how come we are giving
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    | text      = the Bashar regime the oil, he turns back and kills our people with that oil.
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    | text      = In their history, they never really fought against Bashar, for example, when they were
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    | text      = going into Raqqa, there were strongholds of Bashar regime.
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    | text      = They say the soldiers split and Bashar left all the weapons and ammunition to ISIS.
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    | text      = And same thing happened in several places.
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    | text      = So there are lots of questions which cannot be answered or understood by even the high
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    | text      = level ISIS members.
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    | text      = So it's clearly understandable that there are lots of, uh, things going on behind the
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    | text      = scenes.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = The head of defense intelligence who just quit a few months ago, went on Al Jazeera.
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    | text      = I don't know if you've seen the clip, doctor, and he said that the US government basically
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    | text      = funded and helped ISIS, that that was a direct order of Obama.
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    | text      = I don't think so, or I have never heard of this.
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    | text      = I love that.
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    | text      = Mm.
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    | text      = Mm.
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    | text      = I don't like that.
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    | text      = Man, Alex wanted a different outcome in this interview.
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    | text      = So the very thing that he presented at the top of the interview is what this guy is exposing.
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    | text      = He now asks him, but he's like, I have never heard that.
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    | text      = That is crazy.
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    | text      = So he didn't say that it's crazy, but that's the subtext.
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    | text      = So the doctor's point is that when ISIS, uh, took Libyan oil refineries, uh, Bashar sent
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    | text      = Syrian engineers to build those or to rebuild those refineries to fix stuff.
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    | text      = The moment that happened, they started selling oil back to Bashar.
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    | text      = The people who defected were like, what the fuck?
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    | text      = That's probably a big reason why they, of course, you're selling oil to the government.
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    | text      = The guy who's killing the people that made me want to join ISIS because they were being
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    | text      = killed.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Jesus.
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    | text      = And that's something that he's gotten firsthand from soldiers and it's something that is obviously
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    | text      = provable.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And it's something that's obviously true.
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    | text      = Mm hmm.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = That's not a good sign for Alex.
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    | text      = Alex is not like true things.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = And that's why he switches to like, all right, let's fucking just ask the question.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And Mike Flynn, who didn't quit, he got fired, uh, he retired, he presented as he quit, uh,
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    | text      = and he's come out and said that U S created and funds ISIS and right now I've not heard
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    | text      = that.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I don't know that to be true.
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    | text      = Nope.
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    | text      = That says a lot.
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    | text      = That's anger.
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    | text      = That's fucking anger.
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    | text      = And then he goes to commercial immediately and he's done with this.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = So after this, here is his take on, uh, the interview that he just did.
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    | text      = We just had Dr. Ahmet S, uh, Yyla on the broadcast who advises Homeland Security and more.
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    | text      = And he said some things I agree with from the analysis in the clip from your film.
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    | text      = The other stuff he was saying that these quote ISIS defectors tell him no one else is saying,
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    | text      = but if the West can't fix intelligence, they will have people defect who will then go give
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    | text      = this info.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And, and, and the system has been caught doing that.
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    | text      = I'm not saying he's doing that.
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    | text      = He seems like a nice enough guy and interesting and you know, has, has some of his colleagues
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    | text      = killed by ISIS reportedly.
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    | text      = But the point is that, I mean, naturally in here, Russia overthrew Libya.
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    | text      = I mean, it's on record that the West did that using Al Qaeda.
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    | text      = It's on record ISIS is Al Qaeda.
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    | text      = Well, would you like to remind people, Al Qaeda is fighting ISIS in most parts of it.
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    | text      = I said, yeah, for obvious reasons, they're not the same group.
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    | text      = Oh, would you like to lay out what those obvious reasons are?
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    | text      = Cause some people might not understand that.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = So Al Qaeda is, uh, specifically born out of Afghanistan.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = ISIS is specifically born out of Iraq.
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    | text      = Iraq is the situation that ISIS capitalized on in order to facilitate what they really
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    | text      = want, which is the end of days, the ultimate battle between the West and the Middle East.
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    | text      = Which Bannon and clearly Alex Jones also won.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Now, Al Qaeda is there as more of a freedom fighting organization.
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    | text      = Like that's really their goal.
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    | text      = Well, they've got off track a little bit at times.
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    | text      = Yeah, of course.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = The point being is that Al Qaeda is far, far in a way, uh, interested in avoiding that
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    | text      = kind of caliphate because that will once again, absorb Afghanistan into something that they
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    | text      = don't want to be involved in Afghanistan of all the things that Afghanistan is.
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    | text      = It is a country that truly believes in being its own country.
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    | text      = It does not want to be part of Saudi Arabia.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It does not want to be part of all of these different places.
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    | text      = It doesn't want to be absorbed in them that all of the wars that have been fought in Afghanistan
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    | text      = have been the Afghani people saying, leave us the fuck alone.
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    | text      = And so ISIS is another one of those invading nations trying to take over Afghanistan.
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    | text      = Al Qaeda has no interest in that shit.
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    | text      = They're ideologically opposed, even though to a dumb dumb, it appears that they're, uh,
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    | text      = well, if your, if your idea is radical Islam is all radical Islam, as opposed to any number
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    | text      = of Sunni Shiites, uh, Sufi divisions between the, the, between all of Islam, Islam is not
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    | text      = a consolidated block.
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    | text      = It's like if Protestants, it's like if Protestants and I got a better version, I got a better
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    | text      = version.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = Alex would love to school you all day talking about how like identity Europa militias are
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    | text      = different than the Bundy militia.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = And stuff like that.
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    | text      = You talk about how like, Oh no, those people are white nationalists.
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    | text      = Whereas the Bundies are just about property rights, sovereignty.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = So he would like to sit down and tell you that all day.
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    | text      = But at the same time he would paint with one brush, all of Islam, not even radical Islam.
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    | text      = They're Brown.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = All of it.
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    | text      = It's just up there all the same.
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    | text      = His argument is just that, uh, the, the globalists decided to change the name from Al Qaeda to
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    | text      = ISIS to confuse people.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Uh, that is, that indicates a lack of reading.
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    | text      = It indicates a lack of global awareness in any way, but you see that you see in that
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    | text      = last clip, there are so many different sects of Islam in the same way that Protestantism
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    | text      = isn't Protestants.
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    | text      = It's fucking Lutherans.
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    | text      = It's fucking, uh, Pentecostals.
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    | text      = It's got damn Quakers, like there's so many evangelicals, those fucking monsters.
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    | text      = Like it's all of those things, everything that's not Catholic.
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    | text      = Yeah, exactly.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And even Catholicism has dark popes.
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    | text      = If you've ever watched the order, I know about Solomon's temple.
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    | text      = No, but Catholicism is in flux and a constant way as well.
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    | text      = Different, uh, different fucking, uh, and you've got like Lutherans that are much closer
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    | text      = to Catholics than, uh, than the church of England is essentially Catholicism, but, uh,
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    | text      = but with divorce, you have, you have, uh, an acceptance on Alex's part of a wide swath
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    | text      = of Christian identities and a lack of tolerance in any way for the idea that any Muslim is
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    | text      = different.
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    | text      = I mean, he had Laura Loomer on a couple of weeks ago in 2017 saying that there is no
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    | text      = moderate Islam, it's all radical and that's just fucking that sort of language.
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    | text      = It's not going to ruin the world, but what it's going to do is it's going to convince
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    | text      = some people on the fringe who are close to radical Islam to go all the way.
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    | text      = They will hear that and think, Hey, white people think that we're all radical.
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    | text      = I might as well be.
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    | text      = That's not necessarily a solid argument.
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    | text      = No, it's not.
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    | text      = But, but what other purpose does it serve other than to make white people afraid of
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    | text      = brown people?
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Those two purposes are the only real outcomes out of it.
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    | text      = There's okay, I get the specifics that you mean.
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    | text      = What I'm getting at is more, there is no positive productive outcome that comes out of it.
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    | text      = And there's no reality based outcome.
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    | text      = I mean, I think the, the single best parallel I have for why Christianity and Islam are
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    | text      = both stupid and terrible.
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    | text      = Their religion?
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    | text      = Well, that's part of it, but look at the way that they spread and they destroy things.
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    | text      = Whenever something like for instance, so many different Muslim sects in Indonesia are or
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    | text      = were very moderate, very less disinterested really in kind of that kind of an evangelicalism.
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    | text      = A lot of those might've been also tempered with Buddhist influences in the past.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = And Saudi Arabian Islamic sects have then sent over different people in Indonesia to
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = turn them, turn that Muslim situation in the same way they sent them to Africa and fucking
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    | text      = murdered gay people, murdered gay people.
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    | text      = All of this same shit is happening because these religions are fucking horrific.
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    | text      = And that is not to say that everybody who believes in Islam is horrific in the same
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    | text      = way that everybody who believes in Christianity is, is not horrific, but it is a, it is a,
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    | text      = an ideology.
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    | text      = It is a structure, fundamental structure, fundamental adherence to a structure, uh,
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    | text      = such as religion, any sort of religion, such as capitalism.
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    | text      = Those sorts of adherences are outdated modes of being, and they only ever breed horror.
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    | text      = The ultimate end of all of these religions winds up with the apocalypse.
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    | text      = And then, and if you're, if your religion winds up in an apocalypse, there's always
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    | text      = going to be a certain group of people who think, well, it's my job to bring it about
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    | text      = because it's the prophecy.
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    | text      = So it's not as if, it's not as if I'm acting to do it.
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    | text      = That's what the West has been struggling with for the last couple decades.
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    | text      = It's not as if I'm trying to do it.
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    | text      = It's that I have to do it because God tells me to do it.
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    | text      = And people will always be fucking fooled by idiots like Alex or like fucking, uh, you'll
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    | text      = have a number of, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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    | text      = You'll have mouthpieces like Alex saying that like, Hey, whether, whether, you know, revolution,
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    | text      = revelation is coming true or it, you know, it's just a coincidence.
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    | text      = This is biblical.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You know, Obama's the Antichrist and Trump is the Antichrist.
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    | text      = Then George W. Bush is the, like, it's always, this guy is the apocalypse guy, right?
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    | text      = That rhetoric is unnecessary to deal with the actual problems.
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    | text      = Now at the same time, everyone accuses everyone of calling people Nazis and sometimes they
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    | text      = are.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And that's the converse of that.
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    | text      = No, people, some people are Nazis and it turns out a lot of people are Nazis.
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    | text      = So we've got one more clip from December 29th and it's more about Alex being real disappointed
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    | text      = in this interview.
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    | text      = He thought it was going to go better.
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    | text      = You thought he was going to have this guest who confirms all his, uh, Michael Flynn based
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    | text      = should not have gotten an actual scholar should have gotten a fake degree guy.
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    | text      = And then we, he talks a little bit about the hack attack.
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    | text      = And at the end of this, I will explain why I kind of think he might've actually been
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    | text      = getting hacked.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Uh, and I'll tell you who I think it was.
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    | text      = We got to stop because I need a snack attack.
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    | text      = You know what I'm saying?
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    | text      = Different hack attacks are being launched.
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    | text      = Some successful, some not successful, uh, against him full Wars right now with them
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    | text      = posting an article that Irdagun had fled to a U S military base and been overthrown.
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    | text      = Now would you say that's because we're exposing Islamic Caliphate schools in the U S they're
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    | text      = trying to overthrow Ergon?
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    | text      = Would you say it's because the Syrian, uh, electronic army, which is pretty much the
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    | text      = Russians keeps posting info Wars links on hacked sites like the Washington post, the
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    | text      = New York times and Barack Obama's personal Twitter.
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    | text      = I didn't do that two years ago.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I didn't do that a year ago.
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    | text      = I'm not asking the Syrians to do that.
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    | text      = I don't want that type of traffic from your life.
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    | text      = You know, we got our own traffic.
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    | text      = We're not involved in criminal activity now.
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    | text      = They are attacking these countries, so they've got a right militarily to do what they're
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    | text      = doing.
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    | text      = We're not involved.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm an American.
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    | text      = I'm not involved in the agencies, nothing, but I basically talked to everybody because
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    | text      = this is what's going on in the real world.
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    | text      = And we just had a guest on earlier that, you know, it was just putting out the most ridiculous
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    | text      = stuff.
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    | text      = I'm nothing against the guy, but you know, the Russians are behind ISIS.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, we got Tony from Pluto, former head of defense intelligence coming out and saying
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    | text      = two months ago that they were ordered to help create ISIS and protect them and it's wrong.
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    | text      = You didn't say that even in that interview.
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    | text      = So here's my theory.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = If the Syrian electronic army, as Alex is asserting, was Russia, SIA, uh, what fire
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    | text      = meets gasoline, the Syrian electronic army, these hackers are swinging from the chandelier.
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    | text      = All of their hair goes directly over their eyes.
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    | text      = Nobody knows what they look like.
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    | text      = So if the Syrian electronic army is Russia, which I don't think, I don't think necessarily
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    | text      = it is.
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    | text      = But if it is.
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    | text      = Again, that seems more like a Merck situation.
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    | text      = But if it is, let's allow that to be a possibility.
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    | text      = Who knows?
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    | text      = If that is the case, I would posit that Russia is hacking Alex Jones's show because they're
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    | text      = not idiots and they know what this doctor knows.
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    | text      = Now here's where it gets fanciful.
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    | text      = I don't really believe this.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = I was going to say, because I recall now that my, uh, or maybe our, our explanation for
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    | text      = their bullshit hacking was that PJ Dubs tweeted out some shit that he should not have done.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:17:32.319
    | text      = So they have to claim that it's a hack.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:17:33.840
    | text      = Occam's razor tells us that it is covering their ass cause they got some bad information
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:17:37.879
    | text      = of a bad story and were to lend credibility to the idea that they have a Turkish person
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    | text      = on to talk about ISIS or they got some good information.
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    | text      = You think Erdogan actually was at that air force base?
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    | text      = Uh, no, no.
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    | text      = Cause PJW was tweeting about how there was a planned coup and Erdogan was hiding.
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    | timestamp = 02:17:58.079
    | text      = Right.
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    | timestamp = 02:17:59.079
    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = So it was just, he was just a year off.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:01.079
    | text      = Well, it was about six months off.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And that's the other possibility is that he figured out or somebody gave him the plan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:08.479
    | text      = Pechenik told him a little bit too early.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 02:18:11.719
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 02:18:12.719
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:13.719
    | text      = Any of these things are possible.
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    | text      = Look, the idea, look, what I want to say is that like, of course I think that they're
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = Uh, but if it is real, I don't think it's Turkey.
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    | text      = Of course not.
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    | text      = I don't think it's some group trying to pretend to be somebody.
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    | text      = I think it's, I think of course it's Russia.
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    | text      = They're there.
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    | text      = They're at this point hacking everybody.
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    | text      = This is the end of 2015.
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    | text      = That's true.
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    | text      = They're at a, they're in a hack fever.
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    | text      = They're going crazy with their, their fucking, why not throw it on the list?
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    | text      = Like they got a whole, they got a whole checklist of people to hack.
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    | text      = Their campaigns are going buck wild to a certain extent.
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    | text      = And so the idea that they would be like, uh, he's going to interview this guy who knows
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    | text      = that some of our retired generals are running ISIS cells.
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    | text      = Why wouldn't they?
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    | text      = Why wouldn't they try and fuck with that?
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    | text      = I mean, his Skype does end up going down.
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    | text      = That's not proof of anything, but it's kind of interesting.
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    | text      = But if their idea is to shut down the Skype, that's a terrible idea.
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    | text      = Like what you would want to do is attempts to shut down the site were unsuccessful.
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    | text      = Info Wars got too good a security apparently.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = It's fake.
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    | text      = It's all fake.
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    | text      = It's all fake.
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    | text      = It's all fake.
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    | text      = I was just trying to have fun.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Oh well.
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    | text      = Anyway, the bottom line is that Alex Jones accidentally got a smart person on his show
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    | text      = and it did not go well.
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    | text      = Couldn't handle it.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = I just love.
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    | text      = I think that Alex Jones' greatest quote of all time will be just says volumes so much.
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    | text      = It's so clear, so full of shit.
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    | text      = I still, but the only thing about that is that suggests to me that Alex does believe
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    | text      = his bullshit, at least in this situation.
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    | text      = Not to me.
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    | text      = Really?
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    | text      = So you think he's, he's angry because he knows not being, no, that's not necessarily anger.
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    | text      = I don't think.
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    | text      = No, but I interpret to be, I'm not good enough at this to figure out how we spin out.
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    | text      = Like that, that, that is frustration as a propagandist, I think that's how I hear it
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    | text      = is like I've hit a brick wall.
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    | text      = We're two minutes away from a break.
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    | text      = Don't know what to do.
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    | text      = See I thought that this question was going to lead to him saying, well, I did talk to
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    | text      = one guy who said that the United States is right, right, right.
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    | text      = But it turns out no, what, what I hear in that is I am not getting what I believe to
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    | text      = be true to be confirmed by this guy who I have already insisted is an expert.
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    | text      = He's super credible.
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    | text      = So either, either I have the choice of, it's embarrassing, believing him and saying, oh,
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    | text      = that's interesting.
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    | text      = Or I have the choice of being Alex Jones and being a whiny little bitch about it and kicking
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    | text      = you off my show.
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    | text      = Well, I also want to tell you, that suggests belief to me.
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    | text      = I also want to tell you one other little piece of information that I've withheld.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = On the, on the 29th, this interview that went really terrible happened before the interview
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    | text      = with Steve Pechenik from the 29th.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = So if he was going to question things and be like, like, oh, Russia is, you're saying
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    | text      = that, you know, there are some Russian forces that are behind ISIS, I've got to rethink
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    | text      = everything.
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    | text      = Then he's got to dovetail that into an interview with Steve Pechenik.
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    | text      = Right after that, I would posit that those moments where he almost realizes he's getting
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    | text      = played are the aftermath of this interview with Dr. Yala, not going well at all.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And him talking to Steve Pechenik and the kernel possibly of like, is all of this wrong?
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    | text      = So again, that suggests belief to me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = His belief has been shaken, not his propaganda.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And so when he's talking to Pechenik, now he's getting his belief back into it.
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    | text      = All right, Dan.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = All right, Dan.
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    | text      = No, it's true.
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    | text      = I think I'm shaking your belief that this is bullshit this time.
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    | text      = No, it's just such complicated bullshit that it's very difficult to unpack exactly what
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = is being expressed and what the line is.
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    | text      = I think it's possible that his belief is being shaken a little bit and Steve Pechenik coming
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    | text      = on as a little bit of a booster shot in some way.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:22:46.680
    | text      = See, that's kind of the narrative that I'm getting out of this.
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    | text      = It's possible.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:22:49.719
    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = Bottom line is that I believe that December 2015 was a month that destroyed our country.
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    | timestamp = 02:22:59.239
    | text      = Right.
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    | timestamp = 02:23:00.239
    | text      = I think that there was a chance for Alex Jones to become an antihero and he fucking blew
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    | text      = it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:23:08.719
    | text      = He fucking blew it real hard.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:23:10.520
    | text      = He never had a shot.
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    | text      = No, I think he did.
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    | text      = It was too late.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:23:13.520
    | text      = It was too late.
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    | text      = No, I think the redemption was possible.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I think even even a very dumb man who believes that the civil war was about tariffs going
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    | text      = going through our investigation has made me believe that he never had a chance.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Maybe maybe that's what that's what maybe if Rand Paul if Rand Paul had at any point
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = been one of the top three, maybe we'd be in a different situation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:23:40.760
    | text      = But since Rand Paul was down at the bottom and stayed down at the bottom, who else was
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:23:45.139
    | text      = he going to go to?
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    | text      = I'm crossing my arms right now very aggressively at you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It doesn't seem very aggressive.
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    | text      = For a couple of reasons.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You're really bad at being aggressive.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, I have to hold this mic.
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    | text      = You need to be more assertive with yourself.
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    | text      = The reasons that I'm doing that are like there have been elections where he's just stayed
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    | text      = out of it.
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    | text      = So even if he's not pitching for Rand because he can't stand like if Rand falls out, it
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = doesn't necessarily mean that he would just have to choose somebody in an election.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's done that in the past.
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    | text      = So that's one piece why I think he has a chance.
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    | text      = Second, you haven't experienced what I've experienced in terms of listening to nigh
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    | timestamp = 02:24:21.319
    | text      = on hundreds of hours of Alex Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:24:23.920
    | text      = Oh, are you trying to say you're some sort of expert or some bullshit and I don't know
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    | timestamp = 02:24:27.159
    | text      = anything about Alex Jones?
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    | timestamp = 02:24:28.420
    | text      = Ask Gladwell.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:24:29.420
    | text      = Is that what you're trying to say?
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    | text      = Are you a 10,000 hour using me?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm close.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But the reason that I bring that up is that like in my investigation, I've listened to
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    | text      = a bunch of old stuff too.
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    | text      = In addition to this 2015 stuff, because every now and again, I've been trying to find like
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:24:44.920
    | text      = stuff from 2008, 2009 that would be a good episode.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:24:52.559
    | text      = And you see a different man then.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:24:55.319
    | text      = You see not, I mean still deeply, deeply flawed, deeply flawed, flawed organization, a bit
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    | timestamp = 02:25:02.680
    | text      = of a bigot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's no doubt about that, but you see a completely different person.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like there's an episode in 2008 I was listening to the other day where he sings along to the
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    | text      = Renegades of Funk as they come in from commercial break where he's like actually enjoying himself
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    | text      = and having a great time.
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    | text      = On that episode, it's right when Jesse Ventura gets his conspiracy theory show, they're going
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    | text      = to pilot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:25:25.959
    | text      = And so Jesse Ventura is a guest on the show and Alex is like, he's so excited and bubbly
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    | text      = about the idea that Jesse Ventura, his friend is going to get a conspiracy theory TV show.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:25:36.440
    | text      = And he's like, look, I don't want to be weird, but you should have me as a sidekick.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:25:40.879
    | text      = There's a cute bubbly, like laughing, like not fake laughing, like it's real.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There's a sincere enjoyment of being this guy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:25:51.399
    | text      = And I don't feel that anymore.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:25:53.079
    | text      = I don't feel that in 2015, I don't feel that in 2017.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:25:56.879
    | text      = I feel like he's a broken disaster of a person.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I do think there is a chance for redemption in terms of the lead up to this election.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:26:05.000
    | text      = We see it very clearly in the stuff that we've gone over on this episode as a bubbling point
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:26:10.639
    | text      = of all the stuff that we've seen in the last 20 episodes of the investigation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:26:16.120
    | text      = There are there are forces that are trying to manipulate him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:26:19.120
    | text      = There are forces that are.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I don't want to take his responsibility out of it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He still is to blame for everything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:26:24.559
    | text      = But he had a chance to see that Steve Pechenik and Roger Stone and who knows who else behind
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:26:31.180
    | text      = the scenes were lying to him in a concerted effort to get him to be their propaganda mouthpiece.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And if he had turned face on them, if he had hit the bad guy with a chair, right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know, right.
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    | text      = There is that possibility.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:26:44.200
    | text      = If he had given Steve Pechenik a gold star and sent him to his mom or a stunner.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:26:48.959
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:26:49.959
    | text      = Maybe I watched too much wrestling and maybe I watched too much wrestling and there is
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:26:53.879
    | text      = that idea that there is the villain's redemption and the hero's downfall, like all of these
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:26:58.719
    | text      = things are possible.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:27:00.600
    | text      = But I from everything I can see.
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    | text      = He had a chance and it was in December and he fucking blew it.
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    | text      = OK, now here's here's my here's my problem with that argument.
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    | text      = And that's from a personal place that suggests to me that my parents had a chance.
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    | text      = I agree to see through that Republican bullshit.
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    | text      = Yeah, they did.
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    | text      = They had a chance.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = So now.
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    | text      = Of course they did.
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    | text      = See, I just don't think I if I every person watching every person's hinge point is different.
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    | text      = Like, who knows when it is in your personal in your journey, in your life.
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    | text      = I think everybody has a moment where they can go super bad or super good.
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    | text      = And sometimes it's on a small scale, like with your parents, it probably only affects
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    | text      = you.
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    | text      = Like, I mean, and some other people around them in their personal life and the rest of
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    | text      = my fucking family.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = It affects that.
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    | text      = But that's small scale with Alex Jones.
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    | text      = He's a propagandist with millions of listeners.
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    | text      = He had the he had the it's the difference between with your parents.
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    | text      = It's a twig breaking.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And the big scheme of things.
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    | text      = And with Alex, it's a glacier falling apart.
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    | text      = I see.
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    | text      = I just don't think we ever had a chance or Alex ever had a chance.
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    | text      = The moment the nominee was Hillary, they never had a chance like Hillary.
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    | text      = But even if it was Bernie, you wouldn't have had a chance either because he's a socialist.
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    | text      = I don't know if you for him, he could stay out of an election between Bernie.
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    | text      = No, he couldn't.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = His worldview is based on socialism leading to totalitarianism.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = He would have to fight.
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    | text      = But Bernie said shit.
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    | text      = And Bernie was a white dude or at least Bernie was a dude.
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    | text      = I mean, he would have gone through he would have gone through the Jew thing, maybe.
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    | text      = But but that's something that, you know, almost certainly, 100 percent he would have gone
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    | text      = through.
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    | text      = It would have been coded.
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    | timestamp = 02:28:51.020
    | text      = But yeah.
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    | text      = But but that's not a that's not the same thing as Hillary.
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    | text      = I think I think they never I think the Republicans never had a chance because of Hillary.
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    | text      = Like they were they were primed for the con man because they were so blinded by their
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    | text      = hate for Hillary.
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    | text      = I think there are a lot of people who are like that.
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    | text      = And Alex Jones, I think that is a I hesitate to say exactly which is not a large piece
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    | text      = of it, but it is a piece of his journey.
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    | text      = There is no doubt.
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    | text      = But I don't.
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    | text      = But that's that's that to me is wildly simplistic.
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    | text      = The idea that most of what motivated him was anti Hillary stuff.
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    | text      = I think that was a part of it.
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    | text      = But I don't think that the whispers in the ear from Roger Stone and Steve Pechenik were
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    | text      = like Hillary sucks.
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    | text      = That's not that sucks.
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    | text      = Choose Trump.
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    | text      = That's not what I'm saying.
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    | text      = I understand that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = But I'm saying that his motivation partially is negative Hillary.
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    | text      = But more of it is pro Trump based on lies that he's been told about what Trump will
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    | text      = do to the fake globalist.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:29:57.280
    | text      = What he's going to do in the world stage.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:29:59.459
    | text      = The idea that he's going to whip everyone in shape and then leave office.
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    | timestamp = 02:30:02.760
    | text      = Like Solon.
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    | text      = It's nonsense.
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    | text      = See, I disagree entirely.
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    | text      = I don't think well, I don't disagree entirely.
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    | text      = I think my I think my my view on it is, of course, not the simplistic you know, it's
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    | text      = just that they hated Hillary.
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    | text      = My view on it is that because of their hatred for Hillary as a linchpin of their belief
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    | text      = system for 20 years, yeah, that is something that they could not abandon without great
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    | text      = personal destruction.
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    | text      = So they were primed for the con man.
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    | text      = Now let me actually let me actually let me help your argument.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Of the vicious weirdos, the rogues gallery that Alex Jones has, the one that he has never
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    | text      = run afoul of and never gotten into any beef with is Larry Nichols.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:30:54.120
    | text      = Of course.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:30:55.120
    | text      = All these other people like Steve Pacanik is now on the outs.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I don't think that the two of them I mean, we've documented the last like three appearances,
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    | text      = the two of them.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:31:03.280
    | text      = Oh, yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:31:04.280
    | text      = No, it's not gone great.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And then now he's doing this Las Vegas is fake shit.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:31:07.600
    | text      = Now it's just like he's still CIA.
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    | timestamp = 02:31:09.040
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So I think the two of them are probably not going to be hanging in the near future.
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    | timestamp = 02:31:14.639
    | text      = I'm not entirely sure.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:31:15.959
    | text      = Ron Paul was on the other day and they had a fucking fight.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I don't know if Ron Paul is like, Alex, you're an idiot.
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    | text      = I don't think that Ron Paul and him are going to be tight anymore.
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    | text      = Roger Stone's a different quantity.
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    | text      = He now knows.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:31:31.959
    | text      = Roger Stone's an amorphous blob of whatever the fuck he wants to say.
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    | text      = He knows where his bread is buttered and he's in too deep.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:31:36.040
    | text      = He's a part of Infowars now more than he is a part of Trump shit.
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    | text      = So he's sort of irrelevant.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Of all these like old time weirdos.
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    | text      = Really the one who never is the problem is Larry Nichols and he is the Hillary guy.
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    | text      = So I mean, it's and it's not just like it's not to say that's the reason the I think that
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:31:59.719
    | text      = what I'm trying to get to is if it's the most attractive, most universal argument.
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    | timestamp = 02:32:05.040
    | text      = It is that.
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    | timestamp = 02:32:06.040
    | text      = But I mean, more of in the house of cards of their belief system, which is nonsense.
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    | timestamp = 02:32:10.600
    | text      = And any little thing, any little thing can be torn down.
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    | timestamp = 02:32:13.719
    | text      = You know, in House of Cards, no, no, no.
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    | timestamp = 02:32:17.520
    | text      = He killed a dog.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:18.520
    | text      = So did Alex Jones.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:19.520
    | text      = Did Kevin Spacey kill Knonk?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:20.520
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:21.520
    | text      = In that first episode, Kevin Spacey kills Knonk.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:23.319
    | text      = That's what the British that's what the British one was about.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:25.799
    | text      = It was about Alex Jones.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:27.319
    | text      = Yep.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:28.319
    | text      = We cracked the case.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:29.319
    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:30.319
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 02:32:31.319
    | text      = No, it's like it's like anti Hillary was the cornerstone.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:35.000
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:36.000
    | text      = If you pull that, then everything falls.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:39.200
    | text      = So they didn't have a chance because they could not pull.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:43.040
    | text      = If you actually get those people to say, well, Hillary would be better than Trump.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:48.979
    | text      = That means Hillary is better than somebody.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:52.280
    | text      = And they cannot believe that they can't abide by that because that would destroy their she
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:57.000
    | text      = is the worst human being ever narrative.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:59.680
    | text      = And if that takes that down, then that suggests to them that maybe there is a career politician
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:05.000
    | text      = who's better than a non career politician.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:07.719
    | text      = Many of these people, for them to not vote, the people who hate Hillary so fucking much
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:12.879
    | text      = for them to not vote against her is insane to them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:17.360
    | text      = Yeah, that's possible.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:20.360
    | text      = That's compelling.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:21.360
    | text      = Which again is why he could not sit out this election.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:24.000
    | text      = Now he's been fighting Hillary for 20 fucking years.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:28.319
    | text      = He hasn't.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:29.319
    | text      = Mm hmm.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:30.319
    | text      = His his associates have.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:32.200
    | text      = He gets distracted at times.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:33.559
    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:34.559
    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:35.559
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:36.559
    | text      = He's fighting the globalists.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:37.559
    | text      = He's fighting the chief globalist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:38.559
    | text      = She's also a witch.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:39.840
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:40.840
    | text      = She and the Real Housewives of New Jersey.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:43.079
    | text      = No, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:44.079
    | text      = It was Linda Bloodworth Thomas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:45.760
    | text      = Doesn't matter.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:46.760
    | text      = They're all the same fucking design and women.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:33:48.520
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = The only rebuttal I would make to that, because I mostly agree with what you're saying, is
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    | timestamp = 02:33:53.520
    | text      = that even if anti Hillary stuff is the cornerstone, the other stones without them, you don't have
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:01.239
    | text      = a Roger.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:02.239
    | text      = You don't have a building.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:03.239
    | text      = The other Roger stones.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:04.239
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:05.239
    | text      = Ah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:06.239
    | text      = You don't have a building without the other stones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:07.239
    | text      = And even if there's one that holds everything up, the other ones are necessary for the construction.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:11.520
    | text      = Agreed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:12.520
    | text      = And those other ones are I mean, they're all I mean, it's all lies.
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    | timestamp = 02:34:18.159
    | text      = But absolutely.
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    | timestamp = 02:34:19.159
    | text      = No, I guess it's fascinating to me that I mean, I want to get back to the episode that
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    | timestamp = 02:34:24.000
    | text      = we just did.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:25.000
    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:26.000
    | text      = Because I mean, this this conversation is good and all, but like, it's not as though
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:34:29.680
    | text      = we've it's not as though nobody has ever had the autopsy of people really hated Hillary.
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    | text      = I mean, that's not a little that's not a groundbreaking analysis, Pat, you know, it's been it's been
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = But and I don't discount that at all.
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    | text      = I think that there is a massive truth to that.
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    | text      = But the other thing is that it what we what we've just witnessed in this episode is Alex
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    | text      = Jones is very willing to be lied to and is so opposed to the idea of someone impugning
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    | text      = Russia.
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    | text      = Like, I want to bring that back here really quick.
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    | text      = In the sense that that is the only thing he really contests in Dr. Yala's true testimony,
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    | text      = as it were like, he doesn't even rebut necessarily the idea that there were Syrian oil fields
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    | text      = that Bashar al-Assad sent people to fix so they could sell oil to so ISIS could sell
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    | text      = oil to course he doesn't even respond to that except to say Mike Flynn says the U.S. is
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    | text      = Yeah, that's true.
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    | text      = The only thing he's like, this is stupid, is the idea that Russia is involved.
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    | text      = Yeah, I'm not going to argue that.
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    | text      = But to me, that indicates to like.
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    | text      = It's much more problematic.
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    | text      = Is it that or is it that he just doesn't know a goddamn thing about the other things that
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    | text      = Like, he doesn't know anything about Turkey.
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    | text      = He doesn't know anything about Syria, really.
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    | text      = He doesn't know anything about Iran.
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    | text      = He doesn't know anything about these people.
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    | text      = Russia is the only thing that he does think he knows anything about.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = The only thing that he does think he has concrete information, people like Steve, because they
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    | text      = can probably told him things behind the scenes, of course, about clandestine agreements.
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    | text      = Of course, absolutely.
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    | text      = So he thinks he has that piece of information, right?
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    | text      = Which is why he would be he would be confident in fighting back against it on that point
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    | text      = Because if he starts saying Iran and Syria, he's fucking off the reservation, even for
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    | text      = You know, if he starts going like, here's my theory on Syria, you're you're done.
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    | text      = You know?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He has.
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    | text      = Frankly, he has no idea what Bashar Assad actually does.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = He thinks that he wants to go back to Britain.
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    | text      = Look, I mean, we're spiraling a lot.
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    | text      = It's it's.
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    | text      = It's just the reason it's fucked up.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = It's so fucked up.
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    | text      = And it's not like.
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    | text      = I mean, we can come back to this a hundred different times, but it's like.
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    | text      = That wasn't my no, I know tire point, but no, like I get I get the idea that people
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    | text      = think like I have friends who are like, what are you doing?
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    | text      = I run into people I used to do stand up with and they're like, what have you been doing?
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    | text      = Like, I've been studying Alex Jones pretty intensely for the last 10 months.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You're nuts to the exclusion of just about everything else.
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    | text      = Mostly.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = But the reason is because I am intensely convinced that this is the thread that is the loosest.
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    | text      = It really is.
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    | text      = Now, granted.
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    | text      = A thread that's way looser is like if we could hack Breitbart's emails, like, like Buzzfeed
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    | text      = didn't hack them.
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    | text      = No, they got those.
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    | text      = They were linked.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And if we could get a data dump like that, it would be so much easier.
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    | text      = Oh, yeah.
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    | text      = But since we are going on context clues and his actual words.
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    | text      = I legitimately think that this is the loosest thread that unravels everything.
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    | text      = I think that from experience, from listening to him, from understanding what he's talking
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    | text      = about and people even who like there are so many people who discount Alex Jones and they're
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    | text      = like, oh, he's just crazy.
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    | text      = He's just crazy.
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    | text      = There are people who who who there are people who think that they know something about Alex
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    | text      = Jones that don't know who Steve Pachannik is.
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    | text      = There are people who think like, oh, yeah, fuck that guy.
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    | text      = They don't know who they don't know Roger Stone's influence.
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    | text      = That's what I thought earlier.
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    | text      = Oh, and Shroyer.
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    | text      = You didn't know how to spell his name and you do a podcast about info wars.
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    | text      = That was more a pronunciation issue, not a spelling issue.
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    | text      = I've always pronounced it Shroyer.
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    | text      = I know.
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    | text      = But to me, I hear Troy.
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    | text      = That's because Vince Vince Troyer.
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    | text      = It's your thing of mini me.
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    | text      = OK.
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    | text      = But like they're they're I'm I'm maybe going crazy a tiny bit.
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    | text      = But the only reason is I'm 100 percent convinced that these circumstantial pieces of evidence
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    | text      = build up to a very compelling argument.
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    | text      = And the compelling argument is that there is a group called the 45 Group that Roger
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    | text      = Stone and Steve Pachannik have admitted to being a part of on Alex Jones's show that
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    | text      = are way more interested in Russian interests than they are in American interests.
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    | text      = And what they have done is concoct a crazy bullshit narrative that they have convinced
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    | text      = Alex Jones is true.
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    | text      = And they're using him because I mean, let's go back to our first fucking episode.
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    | text      = One of the things I made very clear on the first episode is that Alex Jones is incredibly
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    | text      = talented.
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    | text      = He's very good at this propaganda game that he plays.
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    | text      = And I don't I don't I don't take that back at all.
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    | text      = A hundred and something episodes into this.
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    | text      = He's very good.
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    | text      = And they recognize that and are using him as a weapon.
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    | text      = Now, your point that he had no shot and there's no chance that things could have gone better.
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    | text      = That is a difference of opinion.
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    | text      = And you might be right.
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    | text      = I might be right.
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    | text      = Agreed.
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    | text      = It's possible.
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    | text      = Yeah, I'm not going to I'm not going to try and take down your argument either.
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    | text      = No, it's also a glass half full glass half empty course, of course.
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    | text      = But what's not is if you were trying to pull off a massive scam, if you were trying to
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    | text      = do something really fucked up.
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    | text      = Alex Jones is an amazing person to have on your side.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, why wouldn't they get him on his.
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    | text      = I think our ultimate so clear.
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    | text      = I think our ultimate disagreement on this is nothing to do with any of the circumstantial
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    | text      = evidence that we have put together.
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    | text      = It is that I just have such a hard time accepting that they actually pulled off this Ocean's
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    | text      = Eleven scam.
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    | text      = But that's like that's that's where Cambridge, you know, I know that's what I'm saying.
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    | text      = It's it is such an amazing thing to me that they would actually be able to pull off the
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    | text      = heist of the century.
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    | text      = Well, but then steal the presidency.
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    | text      = Here's the thing.
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    | text      = They didn't.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Cambridge Analytica and the Mercers did.
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    | text      = Yeah, they did the actual bank heist.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Alex Jones is distraction.
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    | text      = Alex Jones is the person who was running the hey, look over here.
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    | text      = And the reason that it gives away the bank robbery is because he's so obvious about it.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = That is the point I'm trying to make.
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    | text      = I believe that we've accidentally stumbled into.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = OK, Ocean's Twelve or Ocean's Eleven.
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    | text      = I can't remember which movie is which.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = But like the people who are actually cracking the safe are Cambridge Analytica, Jared.
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    | text      = You know, these these folks are the people who are actually the ones who were involved
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    | text      = in it.
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    | text      = And Alex Jones is the Casey Affleck.
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    | text      = The Casey Affleck.
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    | text      = What's his fucking face?
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    | text      = Khan.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Jimmy Khan's son.
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    | text      = Of course our analysis winds up being the brother of a famous person and the son of
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    | text      = a famous person.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Which makes perfect sense considering the world we live in, where the brother of a famous
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    | text      = person and the son of a famous person are fucking us over.
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    | text      = But if we're looking at this in terms of like, you know, a lot of really serious people only
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    | text      = want to focus on what happened to the safe.
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    | text      = And I think that's a very valid point of investigation.
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    | text      = And quite frankly, I think it's a part of investigation that I can't help with.
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    | text      = And I wish everyone well.
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    | text      = I wish Mueller well.
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    | text      = I wish...
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    | text      = Oh, we're fucked.
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    | text      = Probably not.
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    | text      = But I wish everyone who's looking at that well.
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    | text      = I can't help.
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    | text      = But what I can help with is review the tapes from the casino where there's people acting
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    | text      = real weird right at the same time as the fucking bank robbery went down.
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    | text      = And I can say, huh, interesting.
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    | text      = Let's listen to what they were doing a couple months before.
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    | text      = And oh, it turns out they've recorded all the things they were doing a couple months
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    | text      = before and they're basically laying out everything that ends up happening.
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    | text      = So we're saying PJW is the guy with a bad cockney accent.
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    | text      = Is that what's going on here?
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    | text      = He's Don Cheadle.
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    | text      = Don Cheadle?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He's the demolitions expert.
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    | text      = It's all gone bawdy.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = Great job, Don.
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    | text      = Look, I don't know.
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    | text      = I think we're spiraling way out of control.
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    | text      = I know.
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    | text      = But I'm just so unbelievably fascinated, horrified by all the stuff that we've talked about.
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    | text      = And it's such a leap to me.
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    | text      = It's such a jump that I have to be skeptical.
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    | text      = Otherwise I feel like I'm going to start getting into a place of magical thinking all the time.
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    | text      = Totally.
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    | text      = Skepticism is very healthy.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And I have to push back against this because it suggests a competency that I am just so
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    | text      = unwilling to accept from all of these people.
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    | text      = If they were actually this competent, if people were actually this competent, it seems as
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    | text      = though a lot more would get done.
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    | text      = But from my understanding of so much of history-
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    | text      = Where's the competence?
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    | text      = Well, they pulled off the heist of the century.
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    | text      = I mean, you're talking about Patchenik.
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    | text      = You're talking about Patchenik and Stone.
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    | text      = No, I know that.
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    | text      = But you're talking about them being capable of executing this years-long disinformation
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    | text      = campaign against Alex Jones without breaking once, without ever breaking character.
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    | text      = You're misinterpreting some things.
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    | text      = I mean, if Jimmy Fallon can't even go through a single SNL sketch without breaking-
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    | text      = You're misinterpreting a few things.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = But his involvement in this scam is probably much more recent than his entire history on
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    | text      = Infowars.
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    | text      = It's not like he was there years planted in advance.
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    | text      = We're in 2015.
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    | text      = I'm still talking about that, but we're still talking about the same people being part of
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    | text      = Infowars now.
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    | text      = All they needed to do was hit the nozz right at the right time.
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    | text      = They just had to hit that booster at just the right time, and they did.
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    | text      = That's the entire race.
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    | text      = They're still going with it.
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    | text      = But Stone hasn't even given Alex an inkling of like, hey, by the way, I fucked you over.
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    | text      = That's because Stone has realized this is a better gig.
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    | text      = Well, yeah.
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    | text      = That's true.
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    | text      = He's realized, I think, that Infowars is where I fucking belong.
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    | timestamp = 02:45:51.399
    | text      = I'm a dirty, sleazy fucking dude.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = This is much better for me.
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    | text      = I make money selling supplements out the ass.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = This is great.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We're conning people.
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    | text      = Why would I want to be involved in politics?
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    | text      = Yeah, that's true.
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    | text      = I imagine he's just made the jump.
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    | text      = That's what it seems to me is what's going on.
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    | text      = It's much lower stakes.
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    | text      = It's not going to get him in front of the house fucking intelligence committee again,
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    | text      = most likely.
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    | text      = I think that Steve Paczentk has gone off the reservation.
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    | text      = He's going nuts with the...
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    | text      = He's doing his own game now to the point where he doesn't even give a fuck that Alex believes
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    | text      = him, screaming at him on the hurricane day, and now with like, oh, hey, let's double down
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    | timestamp = 02:46:28.079
    | text      = on fucking Sandy Hook, and I'm going to fucking talk to David Knight about how you're a coward
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    | text      = because you got intimidated out of Sandy Hook truth.
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    | text      = Pretty hilarious.
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    | text      = I think the entire operation in that sense has deteriorated.
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    | text      = I don't think it matters anymore.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:46:42.920
    | text      = They did the job that needed to be done.
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    | text      = Now Alex is still fighting like a guy behind enemy lines who doesn't know the war has ended.
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    | timestamp = 02:46:51.379
    | text      = He is a guy who's still on Team Trump because he's changed friends, and now his friends
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    | text      = are these trolls.
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    | text      = His friends are the Mike Cernovitches.
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    | text      = Friends are Jack Passobiac.
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    | timestamp = 02:47:02.319
    | text      = These people who, they aren't ideological.
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    | timestamp = 02:47:06.120
    | text      = They're not smart.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:47:07.200
    | text      = They're not strategic in the same way that Roger Stone, Steve Paczentk, to some extent
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    | timestamp = 02:47:12.879
    | text      = Larry Nichols are.
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    | text      = Alex is just, he's in a new ocean now, but it's the same ocean in as much as he has the
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:47:21.879
    | text      = same boat.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:47:23.120
    | text      = The boat is what Roger Stone gave him earlier, and that is the Trump boat, and it's a lie.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:47:30.440
    | text      = That metaphor fell apart.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:47:33.040
    | text      = It didn't go well at the end.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You had a great, great jump.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You dove perfectly, and then you did a belly flop at the end there.
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    | text      = You executed-
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    | timestamp = 02:47:44.719
    | text      = In the air.
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    | timestamp = 02:47:45.719
    | text      = Amazing.
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    | timestamp = 02:47:46.719
    | text      = Oh.
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    | timestamp = 02:47:47.719
    | text      = Landing terrible.
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    | timestamp = 02:47:48.719
    | text      = Not great.
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    | timestamp = 02:47:49.719
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:47:50.719
    | text      = Not great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:47:51.719
    | text      = I mean, it's just, we have such a cast of characters who all seem pathetic whenever
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:47:59.639
    | text      = you reveal all of this stuff about them.
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    | timestamp = 02:48:02.479
    | text      = True.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:03.479
    | text      = And it's hard-
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:04.479
    | text      = They are.
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    | timestamp = 02:48:05.479
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:06.479
    | text      = They're not not.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:07.479
    | text      = No.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:08.479
    | text      = And it's just, because you put out a compelling argument, you really do.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:13.239
    | text      = I have no real like, oh, well, I can put a little hole in this here and a little hole
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    | timestamp = 02:48:19.239
    | text      = in this there that would deflate your balloon entirely.
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    | timestamp = 02:48:23.399
    | text      = I think there are some places where maybe you've gone a step too far or not, but that
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    | timestamp = 02:48:29.620
    | text      = is, that is part of the game.
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    | timestamp = 02:48:31.600
    | text      = Sure.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:32.600
    | text      = I just have-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:33.600
    | text      = World War Games.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:35.600
    | text      = I just have a hard, like aversion to accepting that these people could actually pull it off.
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    | timestamp = 02:48:46.280
    | text      = Like it seems as though-
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:47.280
    | text      = I think it's probably way easier than you're pretending.
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    | text      = I know, but it seems as though if they could pull this dumb shit off, people could pull
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    | timestamp = 02:48:53.040
    | text      = up, I don't know, maybe I'm just misreading so much of-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:56.520
    | text      = I think about a lot of the scams that have been pulled off.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:48:58.639
    | text      = I know, now like the more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards what you're saying
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    | timestamp = 02:49:03.399
    | text      = is true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:04.399
    | text      = Look at what just came about Harvey Weinstein.
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    | text      = I mean that, and what happens with tons of these really powerful dudes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:10.840
    | text      = Like that stuff is, I mean, it is a little bit reductive and insulting to call it a scam,
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    | text      = but on some level, the serial sexual harassment of women who are your subordinates or you're
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:24.440
    | text      = in a power position, that is a scam that you're pulling.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:28.200
    | text      = It's a much more personal scam, but it is, and the cover up of it is another scam, and
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:36.040
    | text      = that happens all the time.
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    | text      = I think-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:38.479
    | text      = The idea that those people aren't really that smart, Harvey Weinstein isn't that smart,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:43.840
    | text      = he's offering to masturbate in front of people.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:45.799
    | text      = Here is your-
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:46.799
    | text      = You understand?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:47.799
    | text      = Here is your best defense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:48.799
    | text      = Smart, it's smart doesn't matter.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:51.040
    | text      = Paying people who are good at covering stuff up and manipulating people is what does the
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:56.920
    | text      = work.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:49:57.920
    | text      = The people who are behind the scenes doing the PR work are the people like Steve Pacheco,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:02.159
    | text      = like Roger Smith.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:03.159
    | text      = Here's what I got for you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:04.159
    | text      = Here is your simplest defense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:06.399
    | text      = When powerful people are insulated from any consequences of their action, why the fuck
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:11.879
    | text      = wouldn't they do it?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:14.440
    | text      = Just like when you brought up Weinstein, that's the thought that I had.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:18.959
    | text      = If you are insulated, like even now, his worst consequence is, oh, I retire with my billions
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:25.659
    | text      = of dollars.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:26.959
    | text      = Like if you're insulated from any actual consequences, why the fuck not play this game?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:32.520
    | text      = You're bored.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:34.520
    | text      = That's what it really is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:35.520
    | text      = There are no stakes for you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:50:37.239
    | text      = It's like gambling.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And that may explain some of Trump's motivations.
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    | text      = And then you go into what we already talked about, about Manafort.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Now these people need to go to jail or nothing's going to-
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    | text      = There's probably some people who are insulated from consequences and some people who are
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    | text      = desperate to avoid consequences, and they're coming together in a terrifying fashion.
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    | text      = Let's wrap this up.
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    | text      = I think that's really the ultimate point of all of this, is that whenever people are insulated
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    | text      = from consequences, who gives a fuck?
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    | text      = Perhaps.
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    | text      = Anyway, Jordan's been fun.
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    | text      = This is always fun.
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    | text      = We have rambled a long time here at the end.
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    | text      = I just love doing this podcast so fucking much.
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    | text      = It's fun, except when-
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    | text      = Even when you get angry at me, Dan.
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    | text      = And I'm sorry about that.
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    | text      = Any lesson will be great.
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    | text      = Hold on one second.
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    | text      = Let me just put Cthulhu right in front of me.
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    | text      = And now-
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    | text      = This episode's not going to be a video episode, but it's fine.
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    | text      = I know, but now we can talk.
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    | text      = So people can find us at our website, knowledgefight.com.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = You can also follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = And we're on Facebook.
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    | text      = Go to iTunes, leave a review.
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    | text      = Also, we will be, tonight, we'll be live on Twitch.
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    | text      = But thank you all for listening.
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    | text      = We appreciate it.
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    | text      = I would like to do our bit, but I've got to be honest, I've got to piss really bad.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = No, I understand.
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    | text      = There's this guy, his name's John Rapaport.
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    | text      = He can go fuck himself.
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    | text      = What's his name?
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    | text      = He can go fuck himself.
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    | text      = Yeah, he can fuck himself.
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    | text      = Go fuck yourself, John Rapaport!
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    | text      = Andy in Kansas.
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    | text      = You're on the air.
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    | text      = Thanks for holding.
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    | text      = Hello, Alex.
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    | text      = I'm a first time caller.
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    | text      = I'm a huge fan.
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    | text      = I love your work.
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    | text      = Thank you so much.
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