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    | title         = [[709: 2 Dan's 2 War]]
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    | episodeNumber = [[709: 2 Dan's 2 War|709]]
    | length        = 01:48:05
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    | text      = N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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    | text      = Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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    | text      = Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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    | text      = I have great respect for knowledgefight, knowledgefight.
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    | text      = I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys.
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    | text      = Dan and Jordan, Knowledgefight.
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    | text      = Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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    | text      = I need, I need money.
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    | text      = Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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    | text      = Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas.
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    | text      = Stop it.
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    | text      = Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas.
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    | text      = It's time to pray.
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    | text      = Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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    | text      = Thanks for holding us.
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    | text      = Hello, Alex.
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    | text      = I'm a huge fan.
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    | text      = I love your work.
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    | text      = Knowledgefight.
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    | text      = N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com.
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    | text      = I love you.
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    | text      = Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.
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    | text      = I'm Jordan.
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    | text      = We're a couple dudes.
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    | text      = I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene from afar in this hotel room.
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    | text      = Oh indeed.
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    | text      = And talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Oh indeed we are.
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    | text      = Dan.
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    | text      = Jordan.
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    | text      = Dan!
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    | text      = Jordan Ann.
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    | text      = Quick question for you.
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    | text      = What's up?
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    | text      = What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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    | text      = I was at the 7-Eleven.
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    | text      = Oh okay.
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    | text      = I was looking for some candy.
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    | text      = The end.
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    | text      = Walking down the candy aisle.
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    | text      = Uh-huh.
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    | text      = Always been a big fan of Swedish Fish.
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    | text      = Really?
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    | text      = Yeah, I like Swedish Fish.
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    | text      = They disgust me.
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    | text      = Oh wow.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Okay, I think it's probably something to do with my dad, like growing up.
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    | text      = Fair.
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    | text      = Some of the things that he really liked.
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    | text      = He was a fish.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And he was Swedish.
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    | text      = I like Swedish Fish.
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    | text      = My dad liked Swedish Fish, but also he was a big fan of like marzipan, and that one didn't
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    | text      = carry over.
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    | text      = Ah.
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    | text      = I don't like marzipan.
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    | text      = Gotcha.
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    | text      = That's fine.
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    | text      = Anyway, my bright spot is that I saw a bag of Swedish Fish and friends, and I was excited
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    | text      = it made friends.
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    | text      = The fish has made friends.
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    | text      = We've been awake too long.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = There are new flavors.
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    | text      = What?
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    | text      = There are new flavors?
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    | text      = They're not good.
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    | text      = Oh, well that makes sense.
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    | text      = There's a strawberry dolphin and a watermelon turtle.
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    | text      = Honestly, the original is better.
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    | text      = What nationalities are they?
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    | text      = Oh, that's a great question.
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    | text      = I think they're all Swedish.
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    | text      = That's kind of offensive to me, really.
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    | text      = Swedish Turtle?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Swedish Dolphin?
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    | text      = It's a rainbow world now.
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    | text      = Fine.
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    | text      = Norwegian Turtle.
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    | text      = Happy?
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    | text      = Yes, I am.
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    | text      = What's your bright spot?
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    | text      = My bright spot is that, boy, it's Saturday, and I don't have to live tweet a trial today.
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    | text      = True.
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    | text      = That is my bright spot.
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    | text      = Yeah, that is true.
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    | text      = You got the day off from your new gig.
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    | text      = No, start.
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    | text      = You said it.
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    | text      = It's not my fault.
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    | text      = No, it's just, I type a lot.
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    | text      = It's really hard.
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    | text      = It hurts your fingers.
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    | text      = Yeah, I don't know how you do it.
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    | text      = It's a lot.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I wrote, I think, 20,000 words yesterday.
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    | text      = That's a book.
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    | text      = Yeah, I know.
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    | text      = That's fucked up.
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    | text      = It's a novella.
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    | text      = That is fucked up.
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    | text      = So, yeah.
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    | text      = It is nice.
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    | text      = Uh-huh.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = To free up those fingers.
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    | text      = I haven't felt, they're just soft and gentle all day.
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    | text      = You got to play piano.
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    | text      = Put lotion on them.
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    | text      = Keep loose.
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    | text      = Oh, I'm trying.
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    | text      = I'm trying.
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    | text      = I'm going to learn.
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    | text      = Well, I'm happy for you, Jordan.
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    | text      = Thanks, buddy.
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    | text      = And you'll have to be back on that all the time.
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    | text      = I know.
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    | text      = I'll be back.
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    | text      = I'll be back.
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    | text      = I'll be back.
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    | text      = Get ready for Monday.
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    | text      = Yeah, Bruce Lee, two finger push.
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    | text      = Yeah, you're right.
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    | text      = You're right.
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    | text      = I got to step up my game.
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    | text      = So, Jordan.
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    | text      = Today.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = We are doing the thing that we have to do, and that is the follow-up to Alex's War.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Our coverage of that.
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    | text      = After the premiere of that film, they did a little Q&A where Glenn Greenwald interviewed
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    | text      = Alex Jones and Alex Lee Moyer, the documentarian who directed this film.
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    | text      = They did not have their mics really working, and the sound was really terrible for the
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    | text      = portion where Moyer was interviewed, so we're not going to talk about any of that.
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    | text      = I wonder if she's mad at the crew.
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    | text      = I would be.
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    | text      = Maybe not, actually.
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    | text      = Maybe it's best to not know exactly how that interview went.
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    | text      = So we've just got Alex's chunk, and honestly, it's like 40-something minutes of an interview,
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    | text      = and I mean, it sucks, but it's going to take more than 40 minutes to talk about.
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    | text      = Unsurprising.
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    | text      = I'm fairly certain.
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    | text      = So what are your feelings going into this?
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    | text      = What are your expectations?
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    | text      = My feeling is that it's going to be Glenn Greenwald doing the softballiest of interviews.
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    | text      = Like not even softball questions, not t-ball questions.
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    | text      = Like he's swinging the bat for Alex to try and get that ball across the fucking plate.
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    | text      = That's what I feel like.
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    | text      = Interesting.
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    | text      = We'll see if that lives up to your expectations.
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    | text      = So before we get into the actual interview, I have a few things I want to say.
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    | text      = I have some comments.
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    | text      = Jordan, you're getting very excited.
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    | text      = So I've been tracking some reactions to this new documentary about Alex, and I have to
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    | text      = say that I've just been seeing more and more shit takes.
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    | text      = It's sincerely unbelievable to me that anyone could watch this film and come away accepting
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    | text      = the argument that the producers and director just showed Alex as he is.
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    | text      = That's such an offensive and gaslighting farce that I feel the need to address this again
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    | text      = and really sharpen the point that I'm making.
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    | text      = On the day before the film was released, Matt Taibbi published a fawning interview with
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    | text      = director Alex Lee Moyer on his substack.
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    | text      = In his introduction to the interview, Taibbi says, quote, she takes characters reduced
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    | text      = in panicked media treatments to two-dimensional monsters and renders a non-judgmental, tautly
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    | text      = edited Herzogian treatment of who they are and how they came to be that way.
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    | text      = This is absolute nonsense.
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    | text      = And if I were Herzog, I would not take kindly to this kind of a suggestion.
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    | text      = But I want to ask what exactly is meant by non-judgmental here.
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    | text      = That seems like a really important concept to nail down because it seems like this is
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    | text      = something Moyer and the film's defenders are really proud of being.
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    | text      = I would guess that from the other things I've read, non-judgmental to these folks means
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    | text      = that they don't include critical voices in their film to provide any other input and
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    | text      = then they pat themselves on the back a whole bunch for having the courage to let the audience
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    | text      = I guess it's fine to not include critical voices in a film, but I really don't think
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    | text      = that you're going to be able to say that you even tried to portray your subject as they
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    | text      = are.
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    | text      = You're just portraying your subject how they want you to see them.
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    | text      = For example, Alex lies constantly and contradicts himself about biographical information in
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    | text      = this film, but you aren't introduced to somebody expressing that point in the film, so you
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    | text      = have no reason to suspect that Alex is being anything but honest.
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    | text      = The audience is being allowed to make up their own mind I guess, but their options are believing
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    | text      = Alex or choosing not to, which they'd have no reason to do based on the film they're
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    | text      = watching.
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    | text      = Another important point is that you're editing the film according to the whim of your subject,
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    | text      = which makes it nearly impossible for an uninformed viewer to make up their mind for themselves.
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    | text      = If you're watching this film, nothing about it would give you any reason to distrust Alex's
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    | text      = assertion that the only reason anyone was mad at him about Sandy Hook was because he
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    | text      = liked Trump and they needed something to smear him with.
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    | text      = There's no reason at all from the material in this film to not conclude that the Sandy
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    | text      = Hook parents like Neal Hestland or Scarlett Lewis, who we've been in the courtroom with
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    | text      = this week, are just tools of an overzealous democratic machine that wanted desperately
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    | text      = to punish Alex for supporting Trump.
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    | text      = That assertion, that narrative that Alex tells, is not presented as just what this guy is
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    | text      = saying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The film is structured around defending that narrative.
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    | text      = The only outcome of accepting Moyer's claim that this is just non-judgmental and presenting
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    | text      = Alex how he is would be to conclude that she either believes Alex's version of this story,
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    | text      = or she edited her film in a way to strengthen the story fully aware that it was full of
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    | text      = shit and is now bragging about how great she is for not indicating that the audience maybe
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    | text      = shouldn't trust this claim at all.
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    | text      = It's weird.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Odd.
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    | text      = We've done this fucking stupid dance over and over again with idiots like Rogan who
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    | text      = want to have their cake and eat it too, but then they also want pie.
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    | text      = They want to talk to and platform dangerous lunatics and whitewash their images, but they
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    | text      = don't want to be criticized for it.
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    | text      = And not only that, they want to be treated like the real heroes, for having the courage
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    | text      = to do what they do.
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    | text      = And much like with Rogan, I don't buy that shit from Moyer.
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    | text      = If you're doing a documentary about a liar or a conman, and you don't include any content
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    | text      = critical of that liar or conman in your film, you aren't doing a documentary.
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    | text      = The conman is using you as a medium to spread their message to an audience they wouldn't
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    | text      = have access to otherwise.
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    | text      = You do have a responsibility in that circumstance, whether you choose to accept it or not.
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    | text      = To be totally clear, here is Moyer in her own words on how she approaches her filmmaking.
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    | text      = This is from that interview with Taibbi.
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    | text      = Quote, this is what I'm going to do with all of the documentaries that I make, by the way,
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    | text      = including the one I just made about Alex Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's not meant to confirm your biases.
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    | text      = It's meant to actually show you what these people are actually like, and then you can
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    | text      = make an informed decision based off watching the film.
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    | text      = It used to be called journalism.
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    | text      = This was said in response to her telling a story about how she had investors not want
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    | text      = to support her first film because she wouldn't include the voices of people who had been
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    | text      = harmed by misogynists and school shooters, which is meant to connect to her choice to
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    | text      = not have critical voices of Alex in this film.
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    | text      = In a very real sense, she's kind of engaging in censorship here because guess what, ding
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    | text      = dong?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = A huge part of who Alex actually is and what he's actually like is that he knows that he's
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    | text      = caused people an enormous amount of pain and he doesn't give a shit.
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    | text      = By not giving voice to that and not exploring that side of him, you're kind of covering
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    | text      = up that aspect of his psyche because it's inconvenient and probably too difficult of
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = a subject for you to pull off in this softball ass documentary.
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    | text      = Now let me focus in on my point about Moyer's approach by applying it to a different situation.
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    | text      = Now let's imagine that Alex's war actually could be called a fair portrait and that it
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    | text      = provided the audience with enough information to make an informed decision.
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    | text      = I totally don't believe that, but that's going to be the standard that will apply to another
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    | text      = situation and see how it feels.
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    | text      = Boy, they're really going to wish they hadn't said that.
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    | text      = I'm going to throw that out at you right now.
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    | text      = I don't think it's going to go well for them.
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    | text      = I just don't think they're going to stand up to it.
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    | text      = That's just me.
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    | text      = So what would Moyer say about someone who made a documentary like hers about Jim Jones
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = in like, I don't know, 1974, right when he was forming Jonestown in Guyana?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = What if that person just let Jim Jones tell his own story, lying the whole time with no
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = pushback from the director or anyone in the film at all?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You'd think that Jim Jones would be able to spin a pretty good yarn and be able to make
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    | text      = the idea of heading to his compound and his commune sound like a pretty decent idea.
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    | text      = People were having a great time and he was spreading a real message of love and unity
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and the word of God is coming through.
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    | text      = Now let's imagine further that this hypothetical documentarian knew that there were former
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    | text      = members of the People's Temple who had left and alleged that Jim Jones had abused them
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = both physically and sexually.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That people had come forward and alleged that Jim Jones would punish dissenters by starving
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:11:43.919
    | text      = them and ostracizing them from socializing with the rest of the community.
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    | text      = This documentarian knew those things but decided not to include any of them in the film because
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    | text      = of a commitment to just showing Jim Jones as he really is.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well and everybody knows that when that happened, all of those people who left, they were just
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    | text      = hired by Carter to smear Jim Jones.
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    | text      = Everybody knew that.
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    | text      = Now let's imagine that this hypothetical filmmaker edited together their documentary in such
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    | text      = a way that swelling music played over hero shots of Jim Jones and almost religious soundscape
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = served as the background for him talking about his religious awakening.
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    | text      = Now let's imagine that this hypothetical filmmaker allowed Jim Jones' framing of his life to
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    | text      = inform the structure of their documentary and how the story was told.
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    | text      = So like you were touching on, in this documentary they do end up mentioning the allegations
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = of abuse of his followers but it's not brought up as a negative thing about him.
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    | text      = Instead it's only mentioned as something that Jim brushes off to the side as an attack
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    | text      = from the power structure who were afraid of the religious revolution that he was involved
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    | text      = in and his commune in Guyana and the possibilities that it posed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:52.919
    | text      = I should have made a more extreme joke.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:55.279
    | text      = That was too obviously just what would have happened.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Well that's the parallel to this documentary.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The mass murder that ended Jonestown hadn't happened yet, so maybe some edgy assholes
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    | timestamp = 00:13:06.159
    | text      = of the day would say that this documentary filmmaker was just giving a non-judgmental
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    | text      = view of this public figure who's somewhat polarizing.
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    | text      = And if I were somebody who studied Jim Jones back then, as I am somebody who studies Alex
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:13:18.639
    | text      = Jones right now, I would say that's complete bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:22.759
    | text      = Portraying Jim Jones in exactly the way he wants to be portrayed with no context and
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    | timestamp = 00:13:27.080
    | text      = no countervailing information is very likely to lead viewers to adopt a more positive view
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    | timestamp = 00:13:32.240
    | text      = of him and that would be a dangerous thing to be involved in.
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    | timestamp = 00:13:36.320
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:13:37.320
    | text      = Dan, I want to run through a brick wall for you right now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:13:40.879
    | text      = I want to bounce my fucking head against the...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:44.320
    | text      = Like let's stop recording shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:46.240
    | text      = Let's go fight Jim Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:47.240
    | text      = I don't even know what's happening right now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:51.779
    | text      = I'm sure that the rebuttal to this would be that Alex Jones is no Jim Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:56.840
    | text      = And sure, he doesn't have a Jonestown, but you're delusional if you think that Alex doesn't
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:01.419
    | text      = pose as much potential danger as Jim Jones did.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:04.899
    | text      = By adopting Moyer's approach, you're essentially legitimizing the figure you're covering and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:14:09.120
    | text      = making people more likely to follow them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:11.960
    | text      = And as we've seen over the course of doing this show, Alex is a completely unhinged child,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = unable to control his emotional outbursts, who constantly tells his audience to keep
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:14:21.000
    | text      = a list of globalists in their town so they'll know who to kill when the time comes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:14:25.639
    | text      = He's told his audience that it might be time to consider if you could kill your family
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    | text      = members if they support vaccination.
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    | text      = He extols the message that psych meds are mind control weapons, which could have the
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    | text      = effect of making people not seek mental health care, or even worse, just stop taking medications
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that they're prescribed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Ask the people of Boston if Alex's actions have real world consequences.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:14:48.039
    | text      = Ask the people of the Sandy Hook victims, family members.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:14:52.639
    | text      = Ask the families of Igor Soldo, Alan Beck, and Joseph Wilcox, the three people who were
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    | text      = murdered by Jared and Amanda Miller in 2014, murders that were inspired by their anti-government
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = views and which Jared had discussed beforehand on the Infowars forums.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:08.519
    | text      = Ask the family of tragically deceased Marcel Fontaine.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:12.639
    | text      = These are stories that we know, and they're just the tip of the iceberg of the lives that
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = have been changed permanently by Alex's behaviors, and Alex doesn't give a shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:15:23.919
    | text      = He continues acting in the exact same ways that he did that led to these people's grief
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = because it's profitable.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:30.440
    | text      = And these voices are ignored and disrespected in this documentary because actually covering
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:15:35.139
    | text      = Alex as he really is would be way too hard, and I suspect that it wouldn't have resulted
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = in the kind of movie that Moyer wanted to make.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:44.259
    | text      = It would have resulted in 710 episodes of some sort of...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:49.080
    | text      = I think that might be what would have happened.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:51.879
    | text      = It definitely wouldn't have resulted in the sort of movie that she was looking for, considering
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that at least two of the producers of this film were also producers of the Trump propaganda
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:16:00.679
    | text      = nonsense film The Plot Against the President.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:16:04.000
    | text      = Alex Liam Moyer made a stupid and inaccurate film, one that willfully omits information
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    | text      = that calls into question the subject's self-delivered image of himself.
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    | text      = It's a bad movie and it will hurt people, but it's her right to make it.
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    | text      = I hope the money that she made doing it is worth it, but please spare me the sanctimonious
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    | text      = bullshit about how people can't handle that you do journalism.
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    | text      = You're a cut rate editor producing semi-slick character studies not of Alex Jones, but of
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    | text      = the person Alex Jones wants you to think he is.
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    | text      = Basically you're the mark if you think what this documentary shows is Alex as he really
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    | text      = is.
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    | text      = Also before we get into this Q&A, I need to make one more point crystal clear, which is
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    | text      = that the framing that Moyer has about her own work, that isn't even real.
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    | text      = She isn't interested in seeing these subjects as they are and that there's just some sort
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    | text      = of purity to it, and the most obvious tell is that she interviews Owen Schroyer, Rob
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    | text      = Dew and Mike Hansen in the documentary.
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    | text      = They don't provide a glimpse into Alex as he really is.
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    | text      = Interviewing them doesn't just show Alex as he is and lets the audience decide for
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    | text      = themselves.
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    | text      = They're included because they're sycophantic voices that'll echo the self-aggrandizing
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    | text      = narrative that Alex is telling about himself, which is the story that Moyer wants to tell.
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    | text      = Reporting interviews with people who glorify Alex is counter to her pretend ethos and kinda
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    | text      = makes a joke of her insistence of not interviewing critical voices in the name of some pretense
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    | text      = of journalistic purity.
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    | text      = That is a condescending mask she's wearing so she can elevate her puff piece brand rehabilitation
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    | text      = project into some kind of act of reporting that's so brave that we can't even understand
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    | text      = it.
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    | text      = I reject that shit entirely and it's really sad to see people with actual media careers
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    | text      = falling for this kind of an act.
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    | text      = And I can't stress this enough.
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    | text      = Even if Moyer thinks that she's some kind of an uncritical observer just dispassionately
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    | text      = relaying the story of Alex, she's deluded.
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    | text      = She's a creator and she's creating.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Some of her input and biases are impossible not to have an impact.
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    | text      = For instance, in a piece about the movie's premiere in the New York Magazine, these lines
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    | text      = made me think maybe she's not so impartial of a documentarian as she's pretending.
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    | text      = What might that be?
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    | text      = Quote, she watched the X-Files, researched serial killers and conspiracies and generally
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    | text      = respected misfits.
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    | text      = Disdain for authority was normalized back then, she says, whereas now people worship
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    | text      = power and believe in toeing the line for the state.
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    | text      = Liberal outlets, she thinks, have unwittingly lent credibility to figures like Jones thanks
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    | text      = to their credulousness about official narratives.
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    | text      = Quote, the things they're calling conspiracy theories are just gonna be news items six
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    | text      = months from now, she says.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:18:45.279
    | text      = There were WMDs, COVID came from a bat.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This is just her saying Alex's catchphrase in a less succinct manner.
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    | text      = Info Wars, tomorrow's news today.
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    | timestamp = 00:18:57.400
    | text      = Last bit of business, Glenn Greenwald has a penchant for run on sentences.
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    | text      = So in order to present this Q&A in as fair of a light as possible, I've attempted to
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    | text      = preserve as much of that as possible.
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    | text      = It's gonna lead to some clips that are longer than I would like and rambling meandering
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    | text      = questions, but I would rather risk annoying you than being censorious.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Listen, just cause I am not a very important person doesn't mean that I shouldn't be okay
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    | text      = with you treating me like this.
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    | text      = So anyway, I have some thoughts.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = How are you feeling?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:19:30.559
    | text      = I mean, it's just, it's just sad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:19:33.740
    | text      = It's so sad.
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    | text      = She sucks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:19:36.319
    | text      = Like just on a level of like quality.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:19:39.559
    | text      = Like she just sucks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = She played shitty music.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:19:42.380
    | text      = Like it's not like she had good choices.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = She didn't have Radiohead or anything on there that might've boosted up the documentary for
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = somebody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:19:49.920
    | text      = That might've got a copyright strike.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = She would have had trouble with that one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:19:51.920
    | text      = I get clearing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That might've been an issue.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, definitely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But like just having Owen Schroyer on there, a man who's literally a puppet, a self-admitted
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    | text      = puppet.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Self-described.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:03.160
    | text      = Of the subject of the documentary, what are you going to get?
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    | text      = Wait a second.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:05.640
    | text      = Wait a second.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:06.640
    | text      = Like what, what is Jeff Dunham's hand up a puppet's ass going to say in a documentary
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    | timestamp = 00:20:10.039
    | text      = about him?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:11.039
    | text      = Well, Jeff, well, I mean, he would say mean things, but that's not the point of what I'm
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    | text      = trying to say.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:16.400
    | text      = Owen Schroyer is going to say anything meaningful in the documentary.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:18.319
    | text      = It's like, well, I am essentially unemployable in any other media situation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:23.559
    | text      = I'm stuck here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:24.559
    | text      = I'm saddled with this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:25.559
    | text      = Absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:26.559
    | text      = So I'm going to say shitty things about my boss.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:20:28.279
    | text      = Totally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:29.279
    | text      = Totally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:30.279
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:31.279
    | text      = Cool.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:32.279
    | text      = While, while Alex's hand is right all the way up my ass controlling my mouth, I'm going
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:33.920
    | text      = to be like, I think he might go too far sometimes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:37.640
    | text      = Like what are you doing?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's like this intense idea of that, like, I'm just showing him as he is.
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    | text      = It's so torpedoed by the fact that you sought out Mike Hanson.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:20:47.519
    | text      = Alex, like his current employees or at the time current employees, also a dubious move,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = but Mike Hanson's inclusion in there is like, get, get off your fucking high horse, pretending
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:20:59.839
    | text      = that like, what, what input is Mike Hanson giving that shows Alex as he actually is?
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Nothing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You exclude the impression of Alex, which is a positive one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You exclude all negative impressions of Alex because you're not up to the task of telling
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:21:18.519
    | text      = that fucking story.
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    | timestamp = 00:21:19.680
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:21:20.680
    | text      = I think what it's, it is tying together with what I'm learning during this whole fucking
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    | timestamp = 00:21:24.279
    | text      = experience down here is that all of these people are fucking cowards who are afraid
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:21:30.539
    | text      = of anybody challenging them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:21:32.519
    | text      = And because they have a rabid fan base that will attack people who do challenge them,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:21:37.839
    | text      = a lot of people don't discover that they're cowards.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:21:40.599
    | text      = They have this little group of people who protect them and keep them from ever having
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:21:45.059
    | text      = to realize that they're a bunch of fucking cowardly babies who have no competence or
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    | text      = quality at anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You mean like Alex's 90 bodyguards?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:21:53.559
    | text      = Yeah, absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:21:54.559
    | text      = Oh my God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:21:55.839
    | text      = Jesus Christ.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:21:57.420
    | text      = There were his 90 bodyguards for nobody showing up to court at all.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:02.400
    | text      = You missed it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:03.400
    | text      = You missed the best one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:04.400
    | text      = The one where I left court the other day, he went out, he went across the street to
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:08.200
    | text      = go get a hero or something, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:10.440
    | text      = And his 10 bodyguards were surrounding him and they were doing the funniest like mission
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:15.119
    | text      = impossible ass maneuvers.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:16.779
    | text      = Like people are checking the corner and like, I got your six.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:20.000
    | text      = Like it was hilarious.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:22.000
    | text      = There is no one there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:23.759
    | text      = They're doing these mission impossible ass organizational moves.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:27.599
    | text      = It is fucking sad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:29.119
    | text      = They have like really long meetings before they go out in public about like, all right,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:33.400
    | text      = we got to keep an eye out for milkshakes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:35.119
    | text      = Totally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:36.119
    | text      = Totally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:37.119
    | text      = Can't let Alex get milkshaked.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:38.119
    | text      = And no offense at all, but one of his bodyguards is five foot three.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:41.000
    | text      = I'm not joking.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:42.000
    | text      = Did you see the guy who may or may not have a false mustache?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:44.440
    | text      = Yes, I did see the guy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:22:47.119
    | text      = Still up in the air, whether or not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:48.559
    | text      = You'll never know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:49.640
    | text      = You'll never know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Kind of looks like somebody from that Beastie Boys video.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:52.960
    | text      = Sabotage.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:53.960
    | text      = He grew a mustache the size of Mike Ditka's forehead is what I would like to describe
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:57.880
    | text      = it as.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:58.880
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:22:59.880
    | text      = So without further ado, Jordan, let's let's jump in on this Q and A. All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:04.880
    | text      = This is not going to not be frustrating for you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:07.640
    | text      = Anyway, it starts with some compliments.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:10.480
    | text      = Well, it's already frustrating for me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:12.720
    | text      = Alex is not yet on stage, so this is just Greenwald and Moyer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:16.319
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know, I just say I this week I had to spend time explaining what I thought was never
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:23:21.480
    | text      = necessary to explain, which is you can if you're a journalist, for example, go and speak
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:25.539
    | text      = to someone without making clear whether you love that person or hate that person, but
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = simply to try and understand them is kind of fundamental to what journalists are supposed
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:23:34.039
    | text      = to do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:35.039
    | text      = And I think that's the same for filmmakers and artists and documentarians.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:37.920
    | text      = And the fact that you even have to explain yourself, the fact that it's unusual to watch
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:42.480
    | text      = a film without constantly being bombarded with the filmmakers moral perspective, I think
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = is a testament to just how repressive the society has become.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I really want to congratulate you for resisting that and for kind of restoring what
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:56.759
    | text      = I think is the purpose of art and journalism and film and documentary and documentaries,
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    | text      = which is to show the public information that they ought to have and let them decide what
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    | text      = they think about it, as opposed to shoving that conclusion down their face.
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    | text      = And life is a lot easier for you, as I said, if you had chosen a different route.
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    | text      = But I think it takes a lot of courage for you to do that.
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    | text      = And I think it's important.
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    | text      = So I want to congratulate you for that.
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    | text      = I feel like one of the defining characteristics of people you really shouldn't listen to are
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    | text      = people who have a mindless need to be in opposition.
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    | text      = For instance, I think you're delusional if you don't think that Glenn's belief that this
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    | text      = documentary shows a fair portrait of Alex is in some way informed by the fact that all
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    | text      = of the media voices he doesn't like are saying it's not.
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    | text      = I think if you've watched this film and you see that this is Glenn's take, he's just a
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    | text      = loser.
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    | text      = This film isn't providing the information that people need to make an informed decision.
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    | text      = It's not just a dispassionate exercise in journalism that people are just mad at because
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    | text      = it doesn't include the requisite performance of outrage.
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    | text      = That's the line these ding-dongs tell themselves so they can feel morally superior to everyone
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    | text      = else while they trot out their exploitative vanity projects.
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    | text      = Let's look at this idea of an informed decision.
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    | text      = I would argue that in order to make an informed decision, you need to have all the relevant
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    | text      = information about a subject.
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    | text      = For instance, it would be inappropriate for a pill to market itself by exclusively talking
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    | text      = about the positive things it can do while completely neglecting the potential side effects
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    | text      = it can have.
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    | text      = Similarly, it wouldn't serve a person at all if the coverage of a pill focused entirely
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    | text      = on the potential side effects and ignored the thing that it's effective in treating.
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    | text      = Either of these would give the person a lot of information about the pill in question,
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    | timestamp = 00:25:47.640
    | text      = but neither would give them what they needed to make an informed choice.
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    | text      = It might give them the feeling that they had that informed choice, but that feeling is
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    | text      = an illusion.
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    | text      = This documentary does not give the viewers the information they need to make any kind
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    | text      = of an informed decision about Alex.
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    | text      = In order for this film to actually be something that the viewer can watch and make up their
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    | text      = own mind about, the viewer would need to already enter the film knowing that Alex is a liar
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    | timestamp = 00:26:11.519
    | text      = and nothing he says can really be taken as sincere.
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    | text      = You already need to know that there's a reason not to trust him before you watch, and that's
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    | text      = an absurd expectation to have for most viewers who are randomly coming into this film.
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    | timestamp = 00:26:25.299
    | text      = I talk to people periodically and they're like, what do you do?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like I do a podcast about Alex Jones, who's that?
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    | timestamp = 00:26:31.799
    | text      = And you know, he's not somebody who everyone knows about.
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    | text      = There's a lot of people who have an unformed opinion about him, and you go into this documentary
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    | timestamp = 00:26:40.960
    | text      = and all of the information that it provides is incomplete, let's say.
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    | text      = Glenn thinks he knows who Alex is, and he's been told that this documentary provides a
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    | text      = fair portrait, and people he doesn't like don't like the movie, so he's gung-ho about
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    | timestamp = 00:26:54.839
    | text      = patting himself on the back and congratulating Moyer on her act of enlightened filmmaking.
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    | timestamp = 00:26:59.160
    | text      = They're just basking in their own fucking delusion, and illustrating how little they
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    | text      = know about the subject that they're actually talking about.
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    | text      = Yeah, I mean, it's disgusting.
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    | text      = I can't imagine what her next film, Mussolini, A Profile in Courage, is going to be about,
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    | timestamp = 00:27:12.079
    | text      = but I think I've heard that it shows a balanced view of Mussolini right up until 1941, you
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    | timestamp = 00:27:19.319
    | text      = know, just that he's a great guy!
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    | text      = No, I think she'll need-
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    | timestamp = 00:27:22.680
    | text      = Misunderstood!
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:23.680
    | text      = I think she'll need to overcorrect, and like, do some film about something that'll make
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    | text      = the right wing angry or something.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:31.039
    | text      = If she overcorrected, she would jump off a bridge, so.
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    | timestamp = 00:27:34.140
    | text      = That's the wrong kind of overcorrecting.
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    | timestamp = 00:27:35.140
    | text      = That's maybe a little too overcorrecting there.
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    | timestamp = 00:27:36.140
    | text      = I'm not too artistically overcorrecting, and, um, I don't know, a puff piece about an eco-terrorist
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    | text      = or something like that.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:46.880
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:47.880
    | text      = Bill Ayers!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:48.880
    | text      = Isn't he the best?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:49.880
    | text      = Well, that would be an interesting film.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:52.640
    | text      = That would be an interesting film!
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:54.480
    | text      = Anyway, Alex comes out, and here we are.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:56.799
    | text      = Alright, so, do you want to end the weirdness of talking about Alex Jones right in front
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:00.960
    | text      = of him if he's not here, and bring him up on stage?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:04.039
    | text      = Alright.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:05.039
    | text      = Get up here, AJ.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:06.039
    | text      = Come on, Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:07.039
    | text      = Does he have a mic?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:08.039
    | text      = Yeah, he should have a mic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:09.039
    | text      = How do you borrow your mic?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:10.039
    | text      = We can share.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:11.039
    | text      = We can share.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:12.039
    | text      = No, I mean.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:13.039
    | text      = I haven't asked anything, Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's good to be here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:15.039
    | text      = Do you want to talk?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:28:16.039
    | text      = Shylock Raiders Attack.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:17.039
    | text      = No, no, no.
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    | text      = No, I mean, listen, I got into this on AXS TV when I was 21 years old, but I meant everything
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    | text      = in purity.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:35.440
    | text      = I made a lot of mistakes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:36.440
    | text      = I've done a lot of bad stuff, but it wasn't on purpose.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:28:39.119
    | text      = So it's great to be here with Wayne Greenwald, it's great to be here with Alex Moyer, and
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    | timestamp = 00:28:43.160
    | text      = the thing is, I didn't lie on purpose, I made a lot of mistakes, but I'm not some person
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    | text      = getting orders and lying to people, and we're probably like 90% accurate, 10% wrong, and
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    | timestamp = 00:28:52.680
    | text      = I want to get better, and so that's just where I'm at, and it's great to be here, and I'm
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    | timestamp = 00:28:56.519
    | text      = glad you made a film that just kind of shows what we've done, because I look at it as kind
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    | text      = of horrifying, obnoxious I am, and then parts of it are good, but I mean, I did this from
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    | text      = a pure place, and that's, at the end of the day, I did not lie to people on purpose, I
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    | timestamp = 00:29:11.799
    | text      = did make mistakes on purpose, and I'm just glad you guys made this film.
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    | text      = So Alex, let me actually begin by asking you a little bit about that in terms of your intentions.
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    | text      = So this is a good indication of how stilted this Q&A is.
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    | text      = Any decent interviewer might hear that opening statement that Alex made, and first say, are
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    | text      = you okay?
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    | text      = And after clearing that up, you'd probably point out that, unprompted, Alex just said
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    | text      = that he didn't ever intentionally lie three times in about a minute.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:29:45.339
    | text      = That kind of feels like somebody who lies intentionally really trying to stress that
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    | timestamp = 00:29:48.759
    | text      = they don't do that, and if your instinct isn't to follow up on that, I guess you're just
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    | text      = a better journalist than I can ever imagine being.
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    | text      = Also weird not to latch onto that weird 90% accurate claim, seems like that's something
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    | timestamp = 00:30:00.839
    | text      = that could stand to be explored, like how do you quantify that, does that actually mean
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    | timestamp = 00:30:04.680
    | text      = anything, or is that just an evasive catchphrase that you use to try to dodge responsibility
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:09.119
    | text      = for the horrible things you say and do all the fucking time?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:12.440
    | text      = Sure, I mean, you're forgetting Shakespeare's immortal line, you know, me thinks you can't
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    | timestamp = 00:30:16.400
    | text      = possibly protest too much.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:19.160
    | text      = Me thinks you doth can't protest at all.
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    | timestamp = 00:30:22.480
    | text      = Why would you?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:23.480
    | text      = Fair, yeah, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:24.480
    | text      = You're too right all the time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:26.119
    | text      = Me thinks what is protesting.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:29.319
    | text      = Are you on the stand?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:30:31.660
    | text      = So Glenn started into a question there, and here's where he goes, and if you're expecting
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:37.319
    | text      = it to be like, hey, let me ask you about that, you say you don't lie, what do you mean?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:43.960
    | text      = That's not it.
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    | text      = So Alex, let me actually begin by asking you a little bit about that in terms of your intentions
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    | text      = and the like, because I remember when I watched the film, it was just so striking, this early
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    | text      = footage of you, and I remember when the internet first discovered some of the early pictures
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:59.200
    | text      = of you from your public access days in Austin, I remember liberals being almost horrified
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = like with this cognitive dissonance, like we're supposed to look at him as a screaming,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:07.160
    | text      = spitting monster, and yet these pictures are disturbingly handsome in this like very mainstream,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:12.400
    | text      = normal way.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:13.400
    | text      = What turned you into the disturbing, screaming monster?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You are now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:15.400
    | text      = That's the question, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You obviously, from the beginning, had a kind of charisma, a natural charisma, and from
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:18.839
    | text      = the camera, that's what people even said from the first time they saw you, and so when you
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:22.279
    | text      = combine these attributes that you had when you were young.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:24.839
    | text      = This is a great question.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:25.839
    | text      = I think you clearly, had you been somebody who was willing to affirm rather than question
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:29.599
    | text      = establishment pieties, could have ended up as like a meteorologist on like Good Morning
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:34.759
    | text      = America or like some Anderson Cooper type, and I'm wondering if you were aware of that
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:31:40.359
    | text      = potential and purposely chose to reject it for a different path, this kind of path.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:45.920
    | text      = That's your question?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:46.920
    | text      = It's an outcast that we're surrounded by delightfully.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:49.599
    | text      = And it's still going?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I don't know whether it was just so natural to your personality that you never even considered
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = trying to pursue that kind of mainstream acceptability.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:58.599
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:59.599
    | text      = Glenn, I was thinking about driving her today.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:03.599
    | text      = So that's where Glenn goes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:07.359
    | text      = That's his first question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:08.359
    | text      = After Alex says three times in a minute that he doesn't lie on purpose and that he's right
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:12.960
    | text      = 90% of the time, Glenn decides to open with a question predicated on how Alex was a handsome
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:17.759
    | text      = young man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:19.000
    | text      = This is just pathetic because track this question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:22.559
    | text      = It's basically asking, did you make a conscious decision to not be as rich and famous as your
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:27.440
    | text      = talents would make you deserving of being because you were too invested in questioning
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:31.640
    | text      = the power structure or is it just your instinctual nature to be a rebel who questions the power
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:37.579
    | text      = structure so the decision to not be super rich and famous wasn't even a decision?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:42.700
    | text      = It's basically like, are you so awesome by choice or by nature?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:46.319
    | text      = I mean, you almost went too long for me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:49.839
    | text      = I would have gone with, why is your dick so big?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:53.079
    | text      = How did it get so big?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:55.079
    | text      = That is the biggest dick I've ever seen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:57.539
    | text      = That's another reading of it.
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    | text      = This shit is embarrassing, partially because it's basically answered in the film, but also
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    | text      = because it kind of ignores the reality that if Alex has ever tried to get a job where
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    | text      = he'd have a boss or advertisers that weren't a shady gold salesman and a book about where
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    | text      = to hide guns, he wouldn't have lasted more than a month.
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    | text      = He is talented, but he's not that talented to the point where an employer would look
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    | text      = past his extreme oppositional defiance because he's got the goods.
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    | text      = He's no Howard Stern, let's say.
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    | text      = No, no, no, no, no, no.
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    | text      = This question is predicated on a false construct of what Alex could and could not have done
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    | text      = as a younger man.
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    | text      = Yes, he was handsome.
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    | text      = Yes, he was talented, but he was also Alex Jones that whole time.
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    | text      = If you take his story and the documentary at all seriously, you shouldn't have to ask
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    | text      = this question.
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    | text      = Alex talks about how he got fired from a radio station because he wouldn't stop talking about
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    | text      = Waco.
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    | text      = Alex took the path he did because it was the only path available to him that allowed him
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    | text      = to satisfy his need for attention and for nobody to ever be able to tell him what to
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    | text      = do.
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    | text      = It's quite something, really.
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    | text      = This Q&A was never going to be hard hitting, but I didn't predict it would open this flaccid.
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    | text      = I mean, yeah, that one's tough.
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    | text      = There's a good...
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    | text      = No, no, no.
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    | text      = Here, if you want to do that Beatles like, hey, listen, man, you had that moment where
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = there were two paths becoming a rock god or working at a grocery store, you know?
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    | text      = What was it that really turned that?
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    | text      = And I would have been like, hey, Alex, you could have been a father of at least 10.
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    | text      = Why didn't you become that?
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    | text      = Alex.
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    | text      = Glenn doesn't know any of that stuff.
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    | text      = You could have been in jail for murder.
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    | text      = Why did you become an Info Wars host?
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    | text      = Hey, excuse me.
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    | text      = Have you ever heard your own story about your childhood?
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    | text      = Why didn't you put it in this fucking movie?
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    | text      = I'm going to guess that Glenn's awareness of Alex starts and ends with things that are
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    | text      = in this documentary and the fact that everybody doesn't like him.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And then he gets more money for it.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = What a piece of shit.
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    | text      = And maybe a few of the really broad things that people know, like he was against the
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    | text      = Iraq war.
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    | text      = Lab lab.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:03.719
    | text      = He hates the establishment.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Which Glenn Greenwald should be against him for.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Glenn was for the Iraq war.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So was his buddy Tucker.
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    | text      = Right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Weird.
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    | text      = So here's Alex's answer to that question of, well, essentially how big that dick.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Or whether it was just so natural to your personality that you never even considered
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    | text      = trying to pursue that kind of mainstream acceptability.
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    | text      = Glenn, I was thinking about driving her today.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:35:30.800
    | text      = What I wanted to say, and I forgot, thank God you brought that up.
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    | text      = No, no, no.
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    | text      = Seriously.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No, it's really intuitive.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = My enemies say I'm this Lex Luther mastermind, and I would love to say that.
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    | text      = You're a moron.
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    | text      = It's none of that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I could study the news and politics and read books by Zbigniew Brzezinski, and I'm like,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = these were scary things.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But I had no training, no idea, no plan.
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    | text      = And this idea that I'm this mastermind is the opposite.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I mean, I can't balance my check.
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    | text      = And I'm not trying to put myself down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm just like, they literally think I'm like this evil mastermind, and I literally can't
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    | text      = balance my checkbook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And they're just like attacking me constantly, like, where's the secret?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Where's the Russians?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:18.280
    | text      = Where's the, who's giving the immersers, who's giving the orders?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm like, I was just covering the news, I was just giving my opinion on something.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And so, no, I had no idea what I was doing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I just was pro-America and kind of a libertarian and didn't like Republicans, didn't like Democrats.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I was just watching all this happen.
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    | text      = I said, God, I get on AXS TV because I tried to go to college and try to get an RTF job.
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    | text      = And they're like, I'll take it five years to even do anything in radio.
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    | text      = So I was like, well, I'll do AXS TV.
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    | text      = So that was, it was basically, I had my own political beliefs that were just pro-freedom.
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    | text      = And then I got involved and it was immediately successful that I was like trying to like
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    | text      = figure out as I went and I'm trying to be truthful, made a lot of mistakes along the
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    | text      = way.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But none of it was with balance.
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    | text      = This is crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = None of it was meant to hurt anybody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, we're going to talk about the mistakes for sure in a few minutes, because it wouldn't
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    | text      = be a complete discussion without that.
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    | text      = But before we get to that, I just...
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Why?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:37:10.840
    | text      = Why wouldn't it be a complete discussion?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Anyway, this isn't really an answer to Glenn's question, but Glenn doesn't give a shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = In fairness, I guess it's like a half answer with an answer to a completely different question
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    | text      = mixed in.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Also, you might notice that Alex ended that ramble by again saying that he never meant
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    | text      = to lie.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And if you're green-walled, it's a conscious choice to ignore that happening so much.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:33.440
    | text      = A neutral observer would look at that behavior and say, hmm, this person really seems to
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:37:38.119
    | text      = be going out of his way to say that he doesn't lie on purpose and yet no one here has accused
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    | timestamp = 00:37:42.179
    | text      = him of that at all.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That seems like something he's being super defensive about.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And maybe if I want to have a full discussion, I should check in on that glaring dynamic
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:51.300
    | text      = that's playing out right in front of me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I guess you could just ignore it and power through to your next softball question though.
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    | text      = That's certainly another option.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I mean, I'm so fucking furious at Glenn already, you know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:38:02.960
    | text      = Like it's like this is a dude who will go out of his way to try and destroy a young
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:38:09.039
    | text      = journalist's career, who will fucking sick his sycophantic bullshit people on other people
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:14.719
    | text      = to destroy their lives.
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    | text      = Then he'll go and fucking say, Alex, you've got the biggest dick in the world.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:19.960
    | text      = How do you walk with a dick this big?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:22.079
    | text      = It's so huge.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:23.280
    | text      = But he won't even fucking talk to me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:25.260
    | text      = He won't even block me on Twitter.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:27.099
    | text      = Do you know why?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:28.099
    | text      = Because I don't have any fucking restraints.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:29.920
    | text      = That young journalist, she could lose her job if she called him a giant shitball fucker.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:33.920
    | text      = But instead...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:34.920
    | text      = Oh yeah, we are untethered from the establishment.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:37.000
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:38.000
    | text      = You can't...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:39.000
    | text      = What are you...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:40.000
    | text      = Who's going to get mad at me?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:41.000
    | text      = He doesn't have anything to gain.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:42.000
    | text      = It is interesting and I do think there is a really funny thing in that you're mad that
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    | timestamp = 00:38:46.079
    | text      = he won't block you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:47.079
    | text      = I want him to... because this means that he knows and he's just a coward.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:51.079
    | text      = He doesn't even have the guts to acknowledge it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:53.159
    | text      = If you block me, then at least you acknowledge it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:54.960
    | text      = I didn't see this, but you told me that somebody who tweeted at him who had under ten followers...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:00.880
    | text      = Yup.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:01.880
    | text      = Immediately blocked.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:02.880
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:03.880
    | text      = When they said that he should listen to our show.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:05.519
    | text      = Yup.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:06.519
    | text      = So believe me, you know you know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:09.159
    | text      = That's a little suspicious.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:10.159
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:39:11.159
    | text      = So, Glenn, here is his next question here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I think that there's a little kernel of something in here actually.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:39:16.800
    | text      = Yeah, we're going to talk about the mistakes for sure in a few minutes because it wouldn't
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    | timestamp = 00:39:20.760
    | text      = be a complete discussion without that.
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    | timestamp = 00:39:23.119
    | text      = But before we get to that, you know, the question of your politics I think is so interesting
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and this is what was striking me watching the film is there's this idea, you know, if
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:34.239
    | text      = you ask somebody with what political faction or ideology is Alex Jones associated, they
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = would instantly say, oh, the far right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:40.699
    | text      = And I'm watching you...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:41.920
    | text      = I wonder why.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:42.920
    | text      = Well before most people thought about doing it, spreading huge amounts of skepticism and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = doubt about the CIA.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:47.920
    | text      = You could have asked why.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:48.920
    | text      = That was the question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:49.920
    | text      = But before the CIA, you're confronting the FBI well before Trump began spreading that
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:53.639
    | text      = kind of skepticism and Republican circles.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Seems like you're answering that question before Alex even gets the chance to.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:58.840
    | text      = The NSA, before 9-11, you're warning about the dangers of exaggerating the threats of
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:40:03.079
    | text      = bin Laden and Al Qaeda in order to kind of bring into a sort of authoritarian imbalance.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:07.760
    | text      = Does he have giant milk carts?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:09.880
    | text      = Lots of things that people very associated with the left have been saying for a long
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:40:14.079
    | text      = time, kind of opposing these institutions of authoritarianism, warning about how they
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:19.079
    | text      = exploit people's perceptions to put the population in fear.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:24.079
    | text      = How have you seen yourself ideologically and politically along the years?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:40:29.000
    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Wow.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = So that's a dumb question, but there's a little bit of truth in it.
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    | text      = Alex was skeptical of all these organizations like the FBI and the CIA early on, but there's
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    | text      = also a context that's missing from all of this.
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    | text      = And it's not something you're going to get from Glenn or from Alex himself and certainly
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    | text      = not from this film.
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    | text      = Alex hated these groups not because of some kind of principled opposition to things like
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    | text      = spying the way Glenn is framing the question.
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    | text      = Alex hated these groups because of Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Oklahoma City bombing.
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    | text      = He distrusted them because after OKC, the issue of right-wing militia violence was a
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    | text      = high priority for law enforcement and it put a serious halt to the momentum that the extreme
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    | text      = right was seeing in terms of organizing.
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    | text      = It wasn't in opposition to the idea of spying or the FBI, it was that Alex felt that they
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    | text      = were focused on people who were too much like himself.
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    | text      = Similarly, his opposition to overhyping the threat of bin Laden was also really just about
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    | text      = his fears about the government cracking down on far-right militias.
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    | text      = He didn't oppose spying on like suspected Muslim terrorists for its own sake.
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    | text      = He just thought it was a smokescreen to eventually spy on Christian nationalist extremists.
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    | text      = Yeah, I mean, they might as well, here's a better way of framing that question.
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    | text      = Alex, you opposed the FBI because they're not solely out to get non-white people.
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    | text      = How long has that been going on for?
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    | text      = But Glenn would have no way to know any of that stuff because he didn't prepare for this
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    | text      = interview at all.
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    | text      = I really feel like-
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    | text      = He doesn't know anything except for like-
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    | text      = I am tired of hearing that as an excuse!
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    | text      = It's not an excuse, it makes it worse.
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    | text      = Exactly!
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    | text      = Yeah, it's a willful ignorance of the subject you're covering or you do know some things
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    | text      = and you're just pretending not to know them because it would be inconvenient for the interview.
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    | text      = It would be a terrible idea to know those things.
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    | text      = Yeah, it's fine to give it up to Alex that on paper a lot of his positions about things
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    | text      = like the NSA are good, but to pretend that they're based in some kind of a principled
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    | text      = belief is a little bit much.
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    | text      = Taking Alex seriously on this issue is honestly kind of funny because he's the last person
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    | text      = I would accuse of being a serious opponent of authoritarian leadership.
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    | text      = For one thing, he made cartoonish accusations about how like Obama was going to become a
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    | text      = tyrant, like he was going to dissolve the government so he could turn the country into
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    | text      = part of a one-world caliphate that he ruled.
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    | text      = The caliphate!
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Engaging with the notion of tyranny like this indicates a lack of seriousness about the
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    | text      = subject and not somebody who you should ask their thoughts on because they're not gonna-
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    | text      = there's not gonna be a point.
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    | text      = Or you could look at how he behaved with Trump.
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    | text      = He was cheering on Trump's authoritarian leanings at every turn and yelling that Trump needed
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    | text      = to go further.
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    | text      = He wanted Trump to imprison his political enemies, take over the media, militarize the
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    | text      = border and outlaw the Democratic Party.
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    | text      = If this is someone you're taking it all seriously on the subject of authoritarianism, the joke
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    | text      = is on you.
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    | text      = Also, Alex's politics are really simple.
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    | text      = He's a John Birch Society-styled anti-communist reactionary who wants to install a white Christian
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    | text      = heterosexual-dominated state.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = I mean, it's just- But he's not gonna tell you that.
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    | text      = I mean, yeah, it's like, I just don't know, Glenn.
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    | text      = Glenn, you don't have a place in Alex's world, just in case you were wondering.
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    | text      = Yeah, good luck, buddy.
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    | text      = All right, Glenn, good luck to you.
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    | text      = You want to fawn over the guy who wants you dead?
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    | text      = Weird.
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    | text      = Oh my God.
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    | text      = Hey, no, no, no, no.
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    | text      = He's only going after trans people right now.
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    | text      = I'm sure whenever he's done with that, he's gonna stop.
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    | text      = That's how it works, right?
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    | text      = Once you go after LGBTQ, you stop after one of the letters.
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    | text      = You don't go after all of them.
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    | text      = Yeah, makes sense.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Glenn may learn a hard lesson that Dave Rubin is learning currently at some point.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You don't enjoy, there's no schadenfreude in that.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = It's fucked up.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It's awful.
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    | text      = It's tragic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And why?
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    | text      = Yeah, it's fucked.
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    | text      = Anyway, Alex responds to this question that you very rarely pointed out.
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    | text      = Glenn was basically answering in the delivery of the question.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = And because I think maybe partially because of that, Alex just, I don't know what the
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    | text      = fuck even this answer is.
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = How have you seen yourself ideologically and politically along the years?
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    | text      = Exactly, well, I mean, starting out like 95, 96, first articles were like, communist Alex
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    | text      = Jones.
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    | text      = Nope.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's anti-American.
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    | text      = Ugh.
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    | text      = Because I was against wars and surveillance.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Because that just seemed like, well, Bill of Rights says you don't do this.
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    | text      = Real quick, 94 and 95, Alex Jones is a communist?
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    | text      = No way.
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    | text      = How old was he?
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    | text      = Well, first of all, like that's like right when he's beginning his career, no one really
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    | text      = gave a shit.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Nope.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And he was opposed to Bill Clinton at the time.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He was attacking from the right.
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    | text      = He was trying to pretend that he was called a communist because he opposed Bush, and that's
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    | text      = not accurate at all.
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    | text      = It's better for his mythology to have that in his background than to be a right-wing
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    | text      = shitbag from the start.
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    | text      = For sure.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So this is bad, and I would just follow the Constitution really ham-fistedly, and I was
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    | text      = like, well, I see all this news about this.
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    | text      = Stop, what's the Constitution done?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And so I wasn't even being right-wing or left-wing, I was simply thinking, I want to promote freedom,
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    | text      = that's a fun thing to do.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And so that's really where it came from.
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    | text      = Tip of the spear.
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    | text      = And then that's why like Martin Sheen, 18 years ago or so, said, I want to fly you out
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    | text      = here to California, and we want you to, you know, Emilio Estevez, his son.
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    | text      = We really love what you're doing.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So I get their house, and it's like I'm sitting there, and they're putting movies on, like,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:45:45.340
    | text      = so you're really a good liberal, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You're against these wars, and you're against George Bush.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm like, yeah, I'm against George Bush.
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    | text      = And they didn't care that I was pro-gun or any of this stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It was like, I'm sitting there like, oh, Anthony Hopkins is going for dinner, let's have dinner
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    | text      = right now.
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    | text      = But we're talking like 18 years ago, I'm sitting with Anthony Hopkins eating roast beef, and
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = like Martin Sheen's house in Malibu, and I'm like, what's this place?
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    | timestamp = 00:46:07.239
    | text      = Because I had no idea, like, private jet land slides back to California.
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    | text      = They're like, you're a very important young filmmaker, you're exposing the evil right-wingers.
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    | text      = I'm like, I just don't want to have to have a war.
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    | text      = I don't want to support what these people are doing.
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    | timestamp = 00:46:20.559
    | text      = And so there was that.
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    | text      = And then as soon as Obama got in...
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    | text      = This is astonishing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They're like, oh, wait, this is Obama, and I'm like, well, Obama's continuing the same
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    | text      = stuff.
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    | text      = So to me, I literally just went on Access TV at like 21 years old, got a local radio
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    | text      = show at 22, got syndicated at 23, totally self-taught, made a ton of mistakes, but I
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    | text      = did it from a place of truth.
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    | text      = What mistakes?
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    | text      = And I experienced like Hollywood and what it does, and then the right wing, and then
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = just...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I had this great experience over 28 years on air of like seeing all the weird underbellies
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = of all this stuff, because I didn't come into it from the establishment.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I literally came out of Access TV in Austin, Texas, and so because I wasn't part of any
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:47:05.039
    | text      = of the power structures, I got to see stuff nobody else had seen.
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    | text      = So let me ask you a similar question that the one asked Alex, which is...
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    | text      = I don't think that was an answer to Glenn's question, but whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There's no reason to ask a follow-up to the original question, because Glenn didn't really
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    | text      = care that much about it to begin with.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It was really just a launching pad for Alex to go off on some rambling diatribe that it's
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    | text      = eventually going to include him saying that he doesn't lie on purpose at some point.
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    | text      = It's very defensive about that.
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    | text      = It does seem like that, almost like he's about to go on trial.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure, but he's not on trial here, and he's super defensive.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know what I find really interesting, though?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:47:43.039
    | text      = What's that?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Glenn has all these stories about these left-wing folks like Martin Sheen mistakenly thinking
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    | text      = that he's on the left because he hated Bush, but you never really hear any stories about
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    | text      = right-wingers who invited Alex in and only to realize that he isn't right-wing after
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    | text      = Sure, he had like that time when Ann Coulter was on his show and she laughed at him for
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    | text      = being so far right that he sounded like Lyndon LaRouche, but I don't think anyone on the
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    | text      = right would talk to Alex and come away disappointed, thinking like, oh, he's not on our side.
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    | text      = Man, he's a rhino.
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    | text      = That's what Alex is.
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    | text      = He's a rhino, buddy!
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    | text      = Anyway, Glenn has another question for Alex that is really just like hype man shit.
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    | text      = So let me ask you a similar question that the one asked Alex, which is, you know, it
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    | text      = is so striking when I began writing about politics in 2005.
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    | text      = Let me ask you this.
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    | text      = How does Anthony Hopkins like his roast beef?
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    | text      = That is a good question.
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    | text      = Liberals hated, more than anybody, George Bush, the architects of the Iraq War.
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    | text      = I began writing in opposition to rendition and the torture regime and Guantanamo and
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    | text      = due process free imprisonment.
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    | text      = It's just so striking that all the people back then who were implementing it, were advocating
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    | text      = it are completely acceptable, in fact, be loved in mainstream liberal circles.
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    | text      = Liberals watch media outlets and consume media outlets that employ those people.
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    | text      = As I was saying, I could interview all of them and I would be applauded by liberals.
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    | text      = And yet you, who back in 2004 were saying, don't trust George W. Bush, his father was
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    | text      = the CIA director, the Iraq War is based on lies, all things that auto appeal to that
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    | text      = sensibility of liberals, you are uniquely castigated and kind of cast out of good company
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    | text      = to the point where you're one of the very few people that even journalists are told
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    | text      = they can't speak to.
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    | text      = Why have you been identified as such a threat in a way that other people who actually have
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    | text      = blood on their hands and wars on their legacy aren't even remotely cast as?
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    | text      = Well, I mean, that's a great question and I, again, only learned this Glenn through
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    | text      = organic experience of it, but I think, I think Glenn should take up this concern with himself
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    | text      = and his good buddy Tucker, who was a huge supporter of the war back in his bow tie days.
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    | text      = Hey, you'd think.
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    | text      = This is an interesting point, although one that Alex has nothing interesting to say on
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    | text      = the subject.
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    | text      = There have been some attempts to rehabilitate the images of people like George W. Bush and
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    | text      = that's been a distasteful thing to say, uh, to see.
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    | text      = That said, I don't think it's been as successful as Glenn is pretending and I don't know how
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    | text      = many fawning pieces we're seeing about like Dick Cheney or Karl Rove these days.
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    | text      = To his larger point though, all the mainstream media outlets have Trump people on their rosters
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    | text      = of talking heads.
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    | text      = Like Kellyanne Conway was just on CBS today and she was the person that, yeah, she's the
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    | text      = person that Trump hired to lie to the media for him.
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    | text      = It does suck, but media outlets do feature some shitty people, but there are people who
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    | text      = fall within a certain spectrum of shittiness and most right thinking people understand
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    | text      = that Alex is outside that range.
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    | text      = It does feel like all networks have a worm farm somewhere.
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    | text      = I suspect that a giant part of Alex's, you know, not being allowed in is a, I think it's
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    | text      = less about what Alex believes or would say and more about how he would act.
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    | text      = He's already shown himself through countless appearances to be unable to stop himself from
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    | text      = just yelling and self promoting instead of actually doing an interview like with Piers
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    | text      = Morgan and Andrew Neil in the UK or the time that he was on The View.
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    | text      = If I were a TV booker, I'd be pretty aware that Alex isn't going to be a guest that participates
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    | text      = in any discussion you might be trying to have, but he's just going to steamroll everything
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    | text      = and yell Infowars.com.
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    | text      = He's a shitty guest as further evidenced by his appearances on the podcasts like Flagrant
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    | text      = 2 and Rogan.
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    | text      = He just gets wasted, yells nonsense, and the only reason you'd want him around is if you're
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    | text      = looking for a spectacle.
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    | text      = Most TV shows wouldn't consider the spectacle to be worth the hassle of having Alex on,
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    | text      = but the math is different for desperate people and charlatans, so thus here we are.
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    | text      = Yup.
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    | text      = That explains the situation.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = Glenn's questions so far are living more than up to my standard.
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    | text      = In fact, I did not expect that he would be asking Alex something along the lines of Alex,
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    | text      = your virtues are so great, we are knighting you a paladin of truth tomorrow, tell me more
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    | text      = about how you came by them.
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    | text      = This question in particular I think I would translate as like, why won't anyone let you
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    | text      = Is it because you're too right about things?
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    | text      = Also, isn't it really awesome that I'm not scared to interview you like all those other
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    | text      = media outlets?
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    | text      = I'm pretty awesome too.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = It's nice that we- What are we doing?
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    | text      = It's nice that two of the biggest dicked people in the world get to share a stage together
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    | text      = for one moment, you know?
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    | text      = It's just rare to see this happen.
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    | text      = So here's Alex's answer to whatever question that was.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = I mean, that's a great question and I've again only learned this one through organic experience
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    | text      = of it, but if I lied about WMDs, if I killed millions of people, I'm part of the establishment,
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    | text      = but they're not scared of Alex Jones, they're scared of populist movements and the fact
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    | text      = that I wasn't left wing or right wing, the fact that I was just pro-America and pro-freedom,
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    | text      = they really wasn't me.
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    | text      = They just saw me as like the American people and like, okay, this is what the American
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    | text      = people produced.
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    | text      = This is organic because they went and checked out who I was and knew I wasn't controlled.
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    | text      = They're like, well, this guy just came out of the dirt and so this is the enemy.
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    | text      = And so it's their hatred of the general public, their hatred of the organic grassroots.
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    | text      = It's not me.
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    | text      = It's their hatred of just good, decent, classical liberal Americans that want peace and want
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    | text      = justice and want unity and want justice and want everybody to live in peace.
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    | text      = We don't want to hurt anybody.
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    | text      = We're not judging anybody.
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    | text      = We just want our freedom.
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    | text      = And so that's what freaked them out like, well, this guy could get this popular and
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    | text      = he's just some idiot on access TV.
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    | text      = What are we going to do?
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    | text      = So I'm a symbol of their insecurity.
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    | text      = I'm not that strong.
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    | text      = They're weak and that's what they're scared of.
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    | text      = So, you know, it is, it is interesting that the thing they hate most are people who develop
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    | text      = influence and a significant audience without being captive to their structures and their
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    | text      = influence.
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    | text      = Wow.
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    | text      = Talk to me, Glenn.
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    | text      = Hey, listen, look at, look at what's happening now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm developing an influence independent of all this bullshit.
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    | text      = How about that, Glenn?
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    | text      = Seems like Glenn's not into that either.
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    | text      = It seems weird.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Huh.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Huh.
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    | text      = I mean, it's all good and well to talk about Alex not being beholden to CNN or a news core,
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    | text      = but he got 8 million in Bitcoin from somebody.
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    | text      = So crazy.
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    | text      = He's so unbewolden.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And he spent most of his career hawking gold for a weirdo.
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    | text      = Oh, so unbewolden to constantly doing the earth is going to fall apart, so you better
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    | text      = buy gold ads.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Weirdly in the documentary and this interview, Ted Anderson doesn't come up once.
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    | text      = Oh, that's so crazy.
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    | text      = So strange.
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    | text      = And so how about, we're mad.
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    | text      = I think you're madder.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I was madder when I was writing my intro.
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    | text      = Your anger is pushed into the document.
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    | text      = Now you're free.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = I'm still reliving it for the first time or living it for the first time.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = So here isn't the next question.
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    | text      = And I actually think that this is Glenn's best question.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Is it shorter?
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    | text      = It doesn't go anywhere and I might be misinterpreting it.
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    | text      = It is interesting that the thing they hate most are people who develop influence and
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    | text      = a significant audience without being captive to their structures and their influence.
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    | text      = And that is something that defines what you've done.
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    | text      = I think more than anything, you came out of public access TV, which was tolerated because
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    | text      = it's supposed to be a joke that no one watches.
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    | text      = And yet you develop this gigantic audience and clearly part of why is because you have
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    | text      = a kind of showman charisma kind of, you know, entertainment component to you that made people
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    | text      = want to watch.
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    | text      = And one of the things that struck me was, you know, you were talking early on in this
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    | text      = funny episode about how when you were 12, you would see these preachers with Rolls Royces
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    | text      = and gigantic houses doing Coke off hookers, breasts and whatever.
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    | text      = And now you do that and have those.
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    | text      = They had this similar kind of showmanship.
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    | text      = They were able to get people to watch.
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    | text      = And by the end of the film, we're watching you talking about praying for President Bush
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    | text      = and satanic influences in a way that I'm just wondering, no, let's be honest, I became the
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    | text      = abyss.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = So you're up.
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    | text      = Would you notice that kind of similar, you know, I became what I saw, but for a good
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    | text      = cause, but it wasn't on purpose.
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    | text      = Only at 48.
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    | text      = Can I now see it?
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    | text      = No, I was like, damn, that's a hot slut that preachers bang on his back porch.
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    | text      = That Rolls Royce was pretty, I mean, I mean, I wasn't doing that consciously, but yeah,
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    | text      = there's, there's definitely, I mean, I'm not going to lie.
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    | text      = Yeah, it's true.
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    | text      = I'm a preacher.
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    | text      = And, and, and, and so only now at like 48 last year, they're like, Whoa, what have I
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    | text      = been doing?
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    | text      = I've kind of like, you know, the things you get old, you go, damn, what'd I just do?
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    | text      = You're like, like, damn, I did all that like, God, I'm a fricking horrible person.
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    | text      = But the, but then I didn't do it consciously.
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    | text      = The establishment is lying according to formulas.
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    | text      = I didn't ever do stuff on purpose.
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    | text      = So this could actually be interpreted as a pretty scathing question, which may be why
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    | text      = Alex Dodge, the real meaning behind it by turning on that charisma and talking about
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    | text      = titties.
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    | text      = The point of the preachers thing is that, you know, that Alex saw as a kid, it wasn't
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    | text      = that they were preachers, it's that they were hypocrites.
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    | text      = They were pious as an act to make money.
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    | text      = And then in their real lives, they did coke off sex workers on boats.
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    | text      = If taken as it appears to be asked, Glenn's question would seem to be asking about a possible
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    | text      = dynamic where Alex has become the same kind of hypocrite, ranting about the devil on air
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    | text      = to make money, but living a discordant life, right?
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    | text      = I'm not sure if that's what Glenn was getting at, but that's the most generous interpretation
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    | text      = I can come up with.
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    | text      = So I'm going to imagine his point as good as possible.
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    | text      = Do your best.
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    | text      = In response, Alex puts on this little show and pretends to wrestle with the idea that
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    | text      = he's a preacher and that he's done bad stuff in the past or whatever.
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    | text      = Not that he's a preacher on air and a millionaire off air.
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    | text      = If nothing else, Alex does have good instincts on when to distract from dangerous points.
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    | text      = Also he brought back up that whole I don't lie on purpose thing again, which is really
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    | text      = starting to become more and more suspicious that Glenn is not calling it out.
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    | text      = I mean, the number of times that he is essentially saying, because I didn't do bad on purpose,
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    | text      = do not hold me accountable for doing bad as though the only crime in the world is first
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    | text      = degree murder.
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    | text      = All other crimes are legal.
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    | text      = As long as it's not premeditated murder, you're golden baby.
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    | text      = Just apologize, say you're sorry and then cash another check.
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    | text      = It's like the reverse of the John Stuart Mill.
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    | text      = The only thing that is truly good is a good will and no, the only thing that's bad is
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    | text      = a bad will.
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    | text      = That is why John Stuart Mill was an idiot.
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    | text      = I think Alex would agree with you until you explain... Anyway, so this next clip, they're
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    | text      = talking about January 6th and Alex says some stuff that I think is really fucking stupid
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    | text      = and if Glenn had any awareness of Alex's career and what he does on air, he would be able
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    | text      = to recognize that he was being lied to.
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    | text      = If I had it all to do again, I would have just stepped back and said, Biden, just sink
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    | text      = the ship and see what happens because man, I'm not a revolutionary leader in like war.
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    | text      = I'm not trying to lead troops.
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    | text      = I don't have some weird thing in my head like I need to be a military GI Joe guy.
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    | text      = But when you get a million people in DC, it doesn't matter.
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    | text      = Even if they're being manipulated, you steal your responsibility.
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    | text      = So I have a lot of guilt over January 6th because it could have gone really bad if the
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    | text      = federal provocateurs had their way, if they would have, the Q people would have actually
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    | text      = kidnapped Mike Pence and Pelosi and put them in handcuffs.
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    | text      = We'd be in martial law right now.
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    | text      = That would have been nice.
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    | text      = Because that wouldn't have been us capturing the Capitol.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:50.260
    | text      = That would have been the country going down the tube.
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    | text      = So we came in... January 6th and closing was a dud.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It was meant to provocateur us into a violent event that was meant to get out of control.
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    | text      = Thank God it failed.
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    | text      = And so I feel like I've been brought to the edge of death.
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    | text      = And so January 6th to me is very serious.
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    | text      = Let me ask you about the underlying cause of January 6th.
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    | text      = So this is such bullshit.
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    | text      = Like it was taken as gospel fact on Infowars that if Biden got into office, the literal
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    | text      = Christian devil would take his place as the head of the country aligned with communist
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    | text      = China and it would be all over for the Patriots.
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    | text      = As soon as Biden got into office, folks like Alex would be rounded up and sent to camps
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    | text      = as the orderly depopulation of the planet took off.
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    | text      = Now in hindsight, since that didn't happen, it's so fun for Alex to say, if I could do
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    | text      = it all over, I'd just let Biden get into office and fail because it, you know, to take responsibility
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    | text      = for the rhetoric he was using before the election would just be embarrassing now.
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    | text      = And Glenn doesn't know or doesn't care about what Alex says on his show.
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    | text      = All he knows is what he saw in this dumb documentary.
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    | text      = So he's going to let this bullshit stand on questioned.
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    | text      = I would call that the mark of an unprepared interviewer.
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    | text      = This is not good.
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    | text      = When you have something like this, there is a very clear next follow-up question that
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    | text      = is, okay, if you, you're saying that if you could do this all over again, you would just
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    | text      = let Biden get into office.
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    | text      = And then we, you know, see whatever we're seeing now.
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    | text      = Are you lying to me now, or were you lying to your audience about the devil ascending
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    | text      = to the throne and aligning with communist China and everything being over the day Biden
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    | text      = comes into office?
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    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Were you lying to your audience or lying to me?
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    | text      = I am lying to both of you.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = So Glenn got into there at the end of Alex's talk, the idea that there was an underlying
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    | text      = cause of January 6th.
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    | text      = And that of course is the election fraud storyline.
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    | text      = I assume Glenn doesn't follow up with like, okay, so you think it was, if it had gone
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    | text      = wrong, you know, you think it gone wrong and if it had gone right, it would have been bad.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:00.599
    | text      = Why do you think it would have been bad if it had gone right?
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    | text      = Hmm.
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    | text      = Wouldn't you be the fucking White House press correspondent?
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    | text      = Also, didn't your employee who was hosting your show for you say the Capitol has fallen
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:13.920
    | text      = and the Patriots are now in charge?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Doesn't he think that the Patriots being in charge is a good thing?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Certainly one of your employees was celebrating it as it was happening.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:21.480
    | text      = Seems odd.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:22.480
    | text      = Crazy.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:23.480
    | text      = Weird.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:24.480
    | text      = Anyways.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:25.480
    | text      = Anyway, what about that election fraud stuff?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = How about it?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = In this case where you were saying there was widespread fraud, did you actually conduct
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    | text      = what you feel like is kind of a meticulous, a forensic analysis of the voting patterns
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    | text      = and conclude that there was fraud in these states sufficient to have swung the election?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:39.559
    | text      = Or was this kind of an ethos, like a way of saying that the establishment was so against
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    | text      = Trump from the beginning in illegitimate ways that I'm going to kind of endorse this cause,
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    | text      = not because it's necessarily true in its particulars, but more as kind of a thematic way of protesting?
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    | timestamp = 01:02:55.360
    | text      = No, I mean, I'll be honest, which is the, which the establishment doesn't do, I'll be
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    | text      = honest.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:59.880
    | text      = It was a, yeah, no, it was a pre-baked deal that obviously more votes to Trump and we
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:06.800
    | text      = saw all the weird, you know, anomalies and like Democrats blocking the windows and people
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:12.960
    | text      = like feeding machines full of things.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:14.880
    | text      = And so we saw some evidence and, but we were expecting it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:18.079
    | text      = And, and so you can say it's kind of a foregone conclusion and we all looked through Rose
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    | text      = colored dark leaves, but I think it's kind of 50, 50 and then two thousand mules all
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    | text      = of a sudden it's coming out.
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    | text      = I mean, I think that obviously I don't think Biden got more votes to Trump, but in a sick
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    | text      = way, it's better that Biden's in.
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    | timestamp = 01:03:33.460
    | text      = So we now get to see what the establishment's really about, but, but yeah, I mean, we expect
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    | text      = election fraud right away.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:39.679
    | text      = And so kind of when you're a hammer, everything's a nail.
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    | text      = I mean, I think we distorted our views obviously, and they'll say, Jones admits he distorted
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    | text      = views.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:49.039
    | text      = Now there was evidence of the fraud and it got covered up and got suppressed.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:51.599
    | text      = But I'm not going to lie and say we didn't, I didn't distort my views in hindsight to
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    | text      = what was happening.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You know, I think one of the things I think about a lot is the established media, its
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    | text      = function is to spread disinformation.
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    | text      = They lie constantly in ways far worse than what you just kind of, exactly.
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    | timestamp = 01:04:11.239
    | text      = I don't want to be a liar like them on purpose.
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    | text      = Wow.
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    | text      = So once again, really driving home that point that Alex insists he doesn't lie on purpose,
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    | text      = which kind of should make anyone listening suspicious that he feels guilty about how
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    | timestamp = 01:04:24.039
    | text      = much he lies on purpose.
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    | text      = I mean, it is a fucking lot, man.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:28.719
    | text      = He is saying that a lot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:04:29.719
    | text      = Too much.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:31.719
    | text      = Also listening to this, Glenn should really be picking up on what Alex is saying.
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    | text      = Alex is essentially saying that his entire coverage of the question of election fraud
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    | text      = of the 2020 election was a predetermined narrative.
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    | text      = He decided he'd report on before the election, before anything ever happened, Alex insists
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = there was evidence of fraud, but any half decent interviewer might want to point out
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    | timestamp = 01:04:52.519
    | text      = that this evidence that Alex is bringing up, like the 2000 mules thing, it's all bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:57.360
    | text      = And what Alex is describing is confirmation bias.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He'd made up his mind and then anything he saw could be used to justify the conclusion
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    | text      = he already had in mind.
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    | text      = It was already, you know, like anything that affirmed that was automatically considered
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    | text      = bombshell proof of election fraud because he desperately needed to justify the narrative
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    | text      = he was going to sell his audience no matter what.
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    | text      = This seems to fly directly in the face of the hundred times Alex says that he doesn't
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    | text      = lie on purpose.
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    | text      = And the only way to really square this circle is to suggest that maybe Alex doesn't even
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    | text      = really know the difference between lying and telling the truth.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, if you're saying that I've never lied on purpose, you don't understand what a lie
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    | text      = is.
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    | text      = A lie is purposeful.
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    | text      = You can't lie.
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    | text      = Not on purpose.
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    | text      = That is true.
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    | text      = You can be wrong.
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    | text      = You can't lie unless you know the answer that you are obfuscating.
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    | text      = That's not how it works.
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    | text      = Now, the other thing that a competent interviewer could tease out of this, if they understood
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    | text      = what Alex was saying and knew anything about his career, is that you could take this glaring,
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    | text      = shocking admission on Alex's part that they decided that they were going to just say election
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    | text      = fraud no matter what.
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    | text      = There wasn't any evidence.
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    | text      = There was a pre-gone conclusion.
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    | text      = I feel like me screaming what every second made perfect sense and any reasonable interviewer
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    | text      = would be like, stop at some point.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And then what you could do from there is bring up how that's all he does.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = When you have the situation with his coverage of the Yuvaldi shooting, he was doing that.
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    | text      = He had a foregone conclusion that he wanted to bring up.
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    | text      = And so pieces of evidence that were bullshit, were unchecked, unconfirmed in any way, were
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    | text      = treated as gospel if they upheld the narrative he wanted to tell.
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    | text      = Same thing with the Boston bombings, same thing with Sandy Hook, same thing with every
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    | text      = single thing in his career.
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    | text      = He comes up with a conclusion and then the evidence is stuff he's figured out out of
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    | text      = confirmation bias to justify the conclusion he was always going to reach.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = And Glenn doesn't even take a step towards that when it's right there in front of him.
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    | text      = I know.
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    | text      = It is a choice.
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    | text      = It's astonishing.
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    | text      = It is astonishing that a man, it's, it's, it is crazy because, because Glenn is trying
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    | text      = to do a softball interview and Alex is trying to force him to do a hardball interview by
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    | text      = being so admitting to crimes.
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    | text      = Well, Glenn is doing the softball interview and Alex is almost like too soft.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, it's really that, it's really that Alex is trying to give him shit.
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    | text      = Hey buddy, uh, this is too soft.
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    | text      = Let's mix it up a little bit.
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    | text      = I know.
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    | timestamp = 01:07:41.400
    | text      = What are we doing?
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    | timestamp = 01:07:42.400
    | text      = Hey Glenn, you're going to lose the audience.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:07:44.360
    | text      = Glenn, please in some way challenge something.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Pathetic.
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    | text      = Come on man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Glenn, you're weak even for Alex.
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    | timestamp = 01:07:52.679
    | text      = That's bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:07:53.679
    | text      = Hey, uh, Glenn, I just teed you up to ask if I intentionally lied about stuff in order
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    | timestamp = 01:07:59.559
    | text      = to overthrow the government.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:01.400
    | text      = You want to take a swing at this?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:08:03.119
    | text      = Hey, Glenn, did you realize that Joe Rogan's a better journalist than you now?
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    | timestamp = 01:08:07.000
    | text      = You want to take a bite off that apple or instead do you want to just talk about how
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    | timestamp = 01:08:11.420
    | text      = bad the other media is and how I'm not as bad as them?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:14.519
    | text      = Man, your subs not great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:15.920
    | text      = Let's keep going.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Great.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:17.920
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:18.920
    | text      = Jesus.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:19.920
    | text      = This world is sad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:20.920
    | text      = Hey Glenn, the checks not going to clear.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:24.479
    | text      = Bitcoin dropped dramatically.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:08:26.399
    | text      = So that is now $4 million in Bitcoin my friend.
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    | timestamp = 01:08:29.520
    | text      = So here's Glenn's next question.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = When you are somebody who's standing against kind of establishment authority and establishment
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    | text      = institutions, you know that one of the things they're going to do is seize on any mistake
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    | text      = that you make.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So is, is, is, and this is what I kind of try and counsel people all the time who are
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    | text      = trying to be dissidents, which is you need to be a thousand times more careful because
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    | text      = they can lie all the time and no one's going to call them out on it because they're on
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = the side of the people with the more powerful megaphones.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:56.439
    | text      = Do you feel like on some occasions have paid insufficient attention to the need not to
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    | text      = hand your enemies really easy and cheap weapons for them to take and bash you over the head
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    | text      = with?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = 100% Glenn.
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    | text      = Wow.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = One, like that's just an amazing spin that Glenn is giving out.
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    | text      = Oh boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:09:17.239
    | text      = Almost like something, like you said, a ball on a tee to make it easier for Alex to hit.
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    | text      = Alex defamed grieving parents.
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    | text      = He intentionally lied about election fraud in a way that led to an attempted overthrow
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    | text      = of our government.
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    | text      = He's undoubtedly killed vast numbers of his fans through his vaccine bullshit.
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    | text      = These aren't instances of Alex just not being careful enough and giving his opponents easy
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    | text      = wins wins that they only need because he's an anti-establishment dissident voice that
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    | text      = must be destroyed.
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    | text      = The framing of these questions is pathetic.
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    | text      = Do you realize that you said Alex defamed grieving families?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:54.880
    | text      = I say Alex allegedly defamed because Alex is guilty of defaming them legally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You don't even get to say he kind of defamed them or he a little defamed them or he made
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:10:07.760
    | text      = a mistake.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:08.760
    | text      = He committed a fucking crime.
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    | text      = And as to that, here is Glenn's question about Sandy Hook.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:15.039
    | text      = Sure, let's hear how great and insightful this fucking question is going to fucking
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    | timestamp = 01:10:19.000
    | text      = be.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:20.000
    | text      = Mic down for this.
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    | text      = Yeah, good call.
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    | text      = So, you know, I mentioned before, I want to ask you a little bit about Sandy Hook.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I know the expectation is I'm supposed to come here and bash you over the head about
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    | timestamp = 01:10:28.399
    | text      = Sandy Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:29.399
    | text      = Go ahead.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:30.399
    | text      = I deserve it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I know I have no interest in doing that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I don't give a shit what the expectations are.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It would bore me if I tried.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You've talked about it extensively for people who are interested in it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:37.399
    | text      = You've been deposed about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You've talked for hours about it.
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    | text      = People interested in the particulars can go watch that if they want.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:42.359
    | text      = I'm not going to jump through hoops in order to like appease people, anger that I'm here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I do want to ask you about a question that I'm actually interested in myself, which is,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = you know, you have just said that you have made mistakes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Obviously one of those is the stuff you said about Sandy Hook.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We watched you in the film come very clean about the fact that you made statements that
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    | text      = turned out to be untrue.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You've obviously spent a lot of kind of reflective time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:06.079
    | text      = It's like the soulful Alex Jones we got to see in the last part of the film.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:11:11.100
    | text      = What is it that you think caused you to do that?
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    | text      = I mean, you referenced some things, you know, and I just identify with it myself that when,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = you know, people who lie for a living are telling you that you're a liar, when people
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    | text      = whose job it is to spread disinformation are accusing you of doing that, you kind of want
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    | timestamp = 01:11:28.319
    | text      = to dig in a little bit and not give an inch to people who you know aren't criticizing
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:11:33.439
    | text      = you in good faith.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:34.439
    | text      = But what is it about kind of how social media works, about how kind of groups function?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:11:39.880
    | text      = Have you thought about some of the psychological and cultural dynamics that led you to make
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:11:45.619
    | text      = some of those mistakes in Sandy Hook?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:47.399
    | text      = Well, sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Think of this like a thousand page book.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So Glenn is essentially starting this question off by apologizing for asking it and saying
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    | text      = that everyone expects him to ask about Sandy Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's almost like a meta conversation that Glenn is having with himself about how aggrieved
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:03.119
    | text      = he is, about how people view him for agreeing to do this documentary Q&A.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:08.159
    | text      = It's legitimately insane.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:09.319
    | text      = Yeah, this is nutbaggery of the highest caliber.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:12.159
    | text      = Yeah, but then this question is trash.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:14.520
    | text      = First off, Glenn says that if people want to know the particulars, they can watch Alex
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:18.220
    | text      = talk about Sandy Hook, they can watch the depositions, et cetera.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:21.920
    | text      = That's all good and well, but I'm fairly certain that Glenn hasn't done any of that himself.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:26.359
    | text      = He's not interested in the reality of what Alex did about Sandy Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:29.680
    | text      = He just assumes, based on what this shallow ass documentary has presented, that Alex got
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:34.159
    | text      = some things wrong and then he apologized for it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:36.399
    | text      = Now everyone's just using these errors against him because he's a dissonant voice that needed
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:40.479
    | text      = to be destroyed because he supported Trump.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:43.800
    | text      = That's the foundation of this bad question.
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    | text      = And to make the question worse, Glenn builds an excuse into the question as he's asking
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    | timestamp = 01:12:51.239
    | text      = it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:52.239
    | text      = Do you think the media was so unfairly mean to you that you had to defame grieving parents?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:57.399
    | text      = It totally makes sense that you'd say that people's dead kids weren't real because the
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:13:01.000
    | text      = media is so bad and sometimes you just get too caught up in your noble fight against
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:13:05.000
    | text      = them, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:13:06.560
    | text      = Fuck off.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I mean, this is, this is a fucked up thing to, I'm very struggling.
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    | text      = You've used, I started, I started making all kinds of weird movements.
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    | text      = This is not good.
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    | text      = You've been doing breathing exercises periodically.
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    | text      = I have, I have.
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    | text      = Your pits are sweating.
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    | text      = My intense extreme fury sweat is going crazy right now.
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    | text      = This is not good.
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    | text      = Nope.
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    | text      = Woo.
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    | text      = So here's Alex's answer to that question.
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    | text      = Let's hear this.
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    | text      = It goes about as you'd expect.
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    | text      = I don't care about the Sandy Hook families.
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    | text      = Alex, please continue to cause problems for them in front of me right now.
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    | text      = Well, Alex has an interesting take on it, um, that I think won't surprise anybody who
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    | text      = listens to our show at all.
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    | text      = Well, sure.
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    | text      = Think of this like a thousand page book and Sandy Hook in my life is like a quarter page
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    | text      = and then not putting down the kids that died or any of that stuff.
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    | text      = It's just like, yeah.
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    | text      = You wouldn't want to put them down.
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    | text      = I used to, you don't want to call them overweight.
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    | text      = Go with, I would take calls.
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    | text      = This would be a call different show.
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    | text      = It still is, but like 10 years ago, it was like almost all calls for like four hours
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    | text      = a day.
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    | text      = So the callers all call and say, we don't believe this.
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    | text      = Look at this.
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    | text      = It's like, well, let's look at this.
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    | text      = Let's look at that.
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    | text      = They kind of take pieces of that out of context.
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    | text      = And so here's the way to describe it.
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    | text      = Fast forward to Jesse Smollett.
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    | text      = I do a Sunday show and I guess it was a Saturday night or whatever it was, maybe it was a Monday
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    | text      = I forget.
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    | text      = But they say he's at two 30 in the morning and guys dumped bleach on him and put a noose
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    | text      = over his head and say it's a maggot country.
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    | text      = And I already been sued for Sandy Hook and I said, I don't care if I get sued.
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    | text      = This doesn't sound real.
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    | text      = And of course it wasn't real or, or, or, or that NASCAR driver, Bubba, whatever Bubba
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    | text      = Wallace, they had nooses hanging in my thing.
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    | text      = It's like, like you just know that's BS.
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    | text      = So a lot of it's just, I'm a talk show host, so I don't go, I'm journalistic and I have
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    | text      = the witnesses and I have the proof and you know, uh, uh, Jesse Smollett's full of crap.
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    | text      = But I still went on air and I said the day after it happened, I said, Jesse Smollett's
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    | text      = There's not dudes at 23 below zero running around at two 30 in the morning, dumping bleach
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    | text      = Get your fast kicked.
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    | text      = I mean, like you go attack black people in the middle of the night in Chicago, you're
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    | text      = I mean, like right around two 30 in the morning, that ain't going on.
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    | text      = So to me, it's like the internet doesn't buy anything that's told anymore because they've
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    | text      = been lied to so much.
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    | text      = I mean, take, take, take you vaulting.
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    | text      = I didn't say anything about you vaulting the head of state police said everything we've
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    | text      = been told to lie.
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    | text      = We don't know what happened.
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    | text      = I mean, project what you want on lies and incompetence in the 77 minutes.
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    | text      = Stand down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The police are putting hand sanitizer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So I'm Glenn.
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    | text      = I'm sorry.
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    | text      = It's a long answer.
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    | text      = Uh, he's forgotten what the question was, but like, uh, he did say a ton of shit about
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    | text      = you vaulting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's just that no one really remembers and he gets to pretend he didn't.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So even with all this softball features that are built into this question and with Glenn
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    | text      = doing everything he can to make Alex seem justified and heroic, Alex can't handle answering
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    | text      = this question directly without getting lost in his talking points about how everything
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    | text      = is fake.
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    | text      = Also, it might be a good idea for Glenn to ask a followup about how it's suspicious that
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    | text      = the only two examples that Alex can come up with from modern history of times he's called
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    | text      = things fake and he feels confident about still saying that are times when he denied an alleged
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    | text      = hate crime with small it fair enough.
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    | text      = Alex was right on that, but he was right for the wrong reasons with Bubba Wallace.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Alex doesn't even understand the basic facts of that situation.
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    | text      = And I would dare to say that essentially no one in that audience even remembers that case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Totally.
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    | text      = This is pretty grim stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And if I were Glenn and I hadn't already, this is about the time where I would realize
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    | text      = that I'm interviewing a deceitful idiot and he's not even keeping track of what question
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    | text      = he's answering.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No, I mean, I, I either, either Glenn is like playing a fucking cartoon.
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    | text      = In his head while Alex talks and I mean, yeah, it has to be cause there's no, if you are
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    | text      = legitimately listening to this human being speak, if the next words you say are the ones
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Glenn Green has said the whole time, you're an insane person.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The way that it's just like a question, uh, answer, Oh wow.
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    | text      = Next question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:17:23.640
    | text      = Not even, not even a conception of a response that acknowledges the answer.
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    | text      = None.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:17:28.880
    | text      = Glenn.
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    | text      = Almost none.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So Glenn is answering the question, answering the question the way Alex should answer it
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:17:34.399
    | text      = and then allowing Alex to say a bunch of stuff and then pretending that Alex didn't say anything.
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    | timestamp = 01:17:39.720
    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = This is a frustrating experience for me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's not, it's not pleasant.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And here is Glenn refocusing the question, re asking the question, Alex, another bite
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    | timestamp = 01:17:50.319
    | text      = at the apple as it were.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:17:52.079
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:17:53.079
    | text      = Um, doesn't, doesn't, doesn't do a good job.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:17:55.079
    | text      = I'm sorry.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:17:56.079
    | text      = It's a long answer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:17:57.079
    | text      = Uh, what was the question?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:18:00.800
    | text      = What do you think led you into these kind of errors that you've been describing?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:04.079
    | text      = And that was the question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:05.079
    | text      = Keep going.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:06.079
    | text      = Great question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:07.079
    | text      = It was just being on air four or five hours a day.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You're very cavalier.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:10.279
    | text      = And so you, you're not putting a journalistic filter on things.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:12.880
    | text      = When I write an article, I would do that or I make a film.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:15.239
    | text      = I was like, get every piece together.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Those were pretty accurate, but they weren't on air cavalier and like drinking vodka and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:18:23.640
    | text      = smoking cigarettes and like, you know, you're like, you're like, Oh yeah, it's a bunch of
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:18:29.319
    | text      = fake BS man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:30.319
    | text      = And like, you're sued for it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:18:32.039
    | text      = Oh God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:33.039
    | text      = So, so.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:34.039
    | text      = Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:35.039
    | text      = So your excuses, you were drunk.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:36.039
    | text      = I was drunk.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:37.039
    | text      = It doesn't count.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:38.039
    | text      = Dan, Dan, I stole the car, but I was drunk.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:43.760
    | text      = Look, man, I was just free associating.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:46.039
    | text      = I was just drunk as shit on air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And so maybe I said that these kids didn't actually exist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:18:50.880
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:51.880
    | text      = So this motorcyclist is now part of that tree over there, but in my defense, I was drunk.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I love, I love the way that Alex will be on air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:00.239
    | text      = And it'd be like, I spent 20 hours a day studying this stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:19:03.640
    | text      = I eat, breathe and sleep the globalist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:06.560
    | text      = I know nothing but their plans backwards and forwards about them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Even when I'm not working.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:11.279
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:12.279
    | text      = And then you're being like, we're on air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:15.920
    | text      = You're just, you know, free balling, smoking a cigarette, drinking vodka, like, fuck you,
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    | timestamp = 01:19:22.199
    | text      = man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:19:23.199
    | text      = I, why doesn't Pete, why don't people understand that the defense is excellent and unimpeachable
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:19:28.479
    | text      = defense is because we have to fill time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:32.319
    | text      = It's okay for us to defame parents and make money.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:36.199
    | text      = Well, if you're going to make an omelet, sometimes you're going to defame some shells.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:39.680
    | text      = Sometimes you're going to defame parents.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:40.680
    | text      = That's how it happens.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:41.680
    | text      = Unreal.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:42.680
    | text      = Unreal.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:43.680
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:44.680
    | text      = Um, so Alex complains about, uh, this trial.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:19:48.960
    | text      = Uh, whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:51.600
    | text      = I'm probably going to probably boycott the trial or something because that's not a trial
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:55.840
    | text      = where if I was a guy caught again with 20 dead bodies in my basement, I could get up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:20:01.680
    | text      = They're like, mr.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:02.680
    | text      = Jones, we have the dead bodies and we, we have them in your basement.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:20:05.399
    | text      = I'm still innocent.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:06.479
    | text      = Your honor, a judge has never said, you can't say you're innocent.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:10.359
    | text      = That is in a court order starting next Wednesday that I cannot say I'm innocent.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:20:16.079
    | text      = So I'm not even feeling sorry for myself.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm like, whoa, this is the end of the country.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:20:21.779
    | text      = And so whatever things I did weren't on purpose and you're, I had 10 points to make on your
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    | text      = question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:29.680
    | text      = It was a really big question.
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    | text      = No, I mean, I think, you know, it's interesting and I've identified this with myself and I
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    | text      = think yeah, no shit.
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    | text      = You identify this with yourself.
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    | timestamp = 01:20:36.939
    | text      = No fucking shit.
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    | text      = You fucking coward.
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    | text      = Pretty remarkable to allow Alex to say these kinds of things about his, his case and like
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    | text      = not ask clarifying questions like, Oh, why can't you say, or is it, is it because that's
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    | text      = not a relevant question of the phase that we're in at this case?
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    | text      = He's making it seem like a, it's a case to determine his ill, his innocence or guilt
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    | text      = totally.
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    | text      = Um, and it's not, no, no, no, listen, listen, listen.
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    | text      = This is how you know that Glenn Greenwald knows full well what he's doing.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Because if you are going to say that out loud to what is supposedly a journalist, right?
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    | text      = They have to then ask, well, if you are guilty before this happened, why, why are you not
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    | text      = allowed to say you're innocent?
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    | text      = Tell me why.
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    | text      = Explain the judge's reasoning.
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    | timestamp = 01:21:27.880
    | text      = Because if what you're saying is true, then the entire justice system has fallen apart.
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    | text      = This is the biggest news in the world that Glenn Greenwald is the first person to discover
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    | text      = that Alex Jones has had his free rights, his forced amendment rights to say that he is
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    | text      = innocent taken away from him and this is a constitutional fight.
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    | text      = He knows that the person he's talking to is full of shit because he just moves on.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = Yeah, exactly.
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    | text      = It's embarrassing.
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    | text      = If that was true, you like, I mean, honestly, if Alex truly on his first try to go to trial
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    | timestamp = 01:22:00.899
    | text      = for this crime, right, was instantly disallowed from saying he's innocent, you and I would
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    | text      = be talking about it.
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    | text      = Yeah, I think that would be a problem.
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    | text      = We would be furious.
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    | text      = You do not get to at least have a trial.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = If you didn't have a trial, it's because of all this shit!
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    | text      = Yeah, if Alex had cooperated with the discovery process and everything and it had gotten to
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    | text      = the point where it was going to trial, actually on the merits, the original question, and
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    | text      = he was not allowed to say he was innocent, that's a big problem.
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    | text      = That's unacceptable.
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    | text      = And it never would happen.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = So, you know, Glenn identifies with Alex, like he said there at the end, and here's
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    | text      = a little more on that.
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    | text      = I hope he will when he's broke.
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    | text      = I think what's interesting, and I've identified this with myself, is I think if you start
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    | text      = off as kind of this outsider, you start off as like on AXS TV, you start growing a little
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    | text      = bit in influence, growing a little bit in influence, and suddenly you become, I think,
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    | text      = one of the most influential people in the country with one of the largest audiences.
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    | text      = It's hard, I think, sometimes to remind yourself I'm not that guy on AXS TV in Austin anymore
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    | text      = because it wasn't all that long ago when you weren't getting so much scrutiny, and then
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    | text      = suddenly you're subjected to more scrutiny than anybody.
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    | text      = And I think it's hard to try and, you know, kind of adapt with that because it's kind
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    | text      = of a slow and incremental.
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    | text      = That's why you're a great journal.
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    | text      = That's exactly what I meant to say.
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    | text      = Because they go back, and they go back 10 years, 5 years, and you're like, I drank a
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    | text      = bottle of vodka that day, Jesus, I said that?
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    | text      = You know, I mean, I'm going to be honest about it, I'm not going to lie to people, you know,
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    | text      = so it's, yeah, exactly.
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    | text      = So let me ask you this, because I, you know, obviously do a lot of work on, on internet
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    | text      = censorship.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:38.359
    | text      = Hey, here's my- On alcoholism?
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    | text      = Girl the fuck up.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like, I do think that it's a gradual process to adjust to rising levels of notoriety and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that as your influence rises you have a greater responsibility with your messaging.
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    | text      = It's also the case that you're responsible for understanding that, and to not understand
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    | text      = it is you neglecting your responsibility.
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    | text      = It isn't an acceptable excuse to say that Alex Jones in 2013 or onward wasn't aware
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    | text      = of his reach and his responsibility.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:06.960
    | text      = He wasn't some guy on public access, he had multiple employees and reporters working
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    | text      = under him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:12.520
    | text      = He would brag on air all the time about how many viewers he got on the website.
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    | text      = If he didn't understand what responsibility he had to the audience about delivering information,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:21.319
    | text      = that was a conscious choice that he was making to ignore that responsibility because it would
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    | text      = make his job harder and less fun.
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    | text      = For example, he wouldn't be able to drink that bottle of vodka and get on air, make
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    | timestamp = 01:24:30.800
    | text      = up a bunch of shit that gets people hurt, and then do it again the next day.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:34.359
    | text      = He would know that he was responsible to not do that.
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    | timestamp = 01:24:37.640
    | text      = What a load of shit.
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    | text      = And to hear Glenn lap this up and not ask any follow up questions, it's really disappointing,
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    | text      = but honestly it makes total sense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He needs access to Alex in order to interview Alex, and if he doesn't do exactly what
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    | text      = he is doing and if he treats Alex with any critical focus, he knows that he's going
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    | text      = to lose that access.
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    | text      = Conversely, I think Glenn probably fully understands that the most likely result of pushing back
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    | timestamp = 01:25:02.300
    | text      = on Alex at all is that this interview is going to become a fight.
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    | timestamp = 01:25:06.399
    | text      = It's happened in pretty much all of Alex's other high profile interviews, and that's
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    | text      = not what Glenn wants.
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    | timestamp = 01:25:12.359
    | text      = This is supposed to be a promotional event for this image-rehabilitating documentary,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:16.439
    | text      = so it would be counterproductive for the end result of this Q&A to be everyone walking
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    | text      = away thinking, yeah, maybe he can't really interview Alex, maybe there's a reason he
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:24.640
    | text      = doesn't give him any invitations because he's an asshole and they just end up in fights.
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    | text      = It's essential to Glenn and Alex Lee Moyer's grift for Alex to be treated seriously and
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:33.960
    | text      = not like a cartoon, and in order for that to be able to happen, you need to treat him
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    | text      = with kid gloves.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:39.439
    | text      = And it's pathetic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:40.439
    | text      = I mean, and it's not even, it doesn't even work.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:43.640
    | text      = Alex is a cartoon.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:44.800
    | text      = They're just acting like he's not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:25:46.340
    | text      = It is gaslighting of the highest order for you to talk to what is the words coming out
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:51.880
    | text      = of his mouth to respond with what Glenn is saying is gaslighting.
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    | timestamp = 01:25:55.680
    | text      = Can you imagine what kind of restraint you would need to employ to not ask a follow-up
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    | timestamp = 01:26:01.239
    | text      = question if Alex said, I was drunk, I drank a bottle of vodka when I defamed families
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    | timestamp = 01:26:08.520
    | text      = who had people die that they loved on Sandy Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:12.199
    | text      = It meant so little to me that I was just drunk on air.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:15.000
    | text      = That's just shit-faced.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:16.000
    | text      = Just threw it away.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:17.000
    | text      = Who gives a shit?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:18.000
    | text      = Why are you mad at me?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:19.000
    | text      = I made a mistake when I was drunk.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:20.760
    | text      = That's his argument.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:21.840
    | text      = That's what he's allowed to say to Glenn fucking Greenwald about a fucking propaganda movie
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    | timestamp = 01:26:27.760
    | text      = about how great Hitler is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:29.680
    | text      = No curiosity on Glenn's part.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:31.560
    | text      = None.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:32.560
    | text      = None.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:33.560
    | text      = Nope.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:34.560
    | text      = He's a great journalist and a great writer, though.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:35.560
    | text      = Yeah, but you know what he's not good at?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:36.800
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:37.800
    | text      = Booking.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:38.800
    | text      = Because apparently they had trouble finding a venue.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:39.800
    | text      = Oh, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:40.800
    | text      = You know, when I got picked up at the airport, I was told that there was some difficulty
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    | timestamp = 01:26:44.560
    | text      = for a while getting a venue here in Austin to do this event that when they found out
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:26:50.720
    | text      = that you were involved, they said, you know what, on second thought, we're not really
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    | timestamp = 01:26:54.079
    | text      = interested in your money.
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    | timestamp = 01:26:56.199
    | text      = And I thought about it for a minute, and at first I said, okay, yeah, of course that's
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    | timestamp = 01:27:00.479
    | text      = the case.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:01.479
    | text      = And then I realized that shouldn't be so comforting, like normal to hear.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:06.600
    | text      = That should be chilling and alarming.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:08.039
    | text      = I should be, what do you mean we're in the United States?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:10.840
    | text      = Why is it difficult to get a venue to show a film about somebody who has a lot  -  and
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:16.300
    | text      = we've been so conditioned.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:17.300
    | text      = We're getting too comfortable.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:19.800
    | text      = And I think there's a kind of repression that has emerged that we've been trained
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:24.680
    | text      = for so long to think takes place in other places that we have a very hard time recognizing
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:29.720
    | text      = that we're actually subject to that level of repression here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:33.239
    | text      = Have you had problems with the film, like this film getting distribution and other kind
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:40.119
    | text      = of publicity for it that you didn't have with the first film?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:42.479
    | text      = Have you noticed greater difficulty?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:44.119
    | text      = There's a bare shit in the woods.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:45.819
    | text      = That wasn't a question for Alex, that was for Moyer.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:48.319
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:49.319
    | text      = Like, okay, who cares?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:52.880
    | text      = Like they're basically just trying to say cancel culture without saying cancel culture.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:56.680
    | text      = Dan, as a tireless advocate for free speech, as someone who demands that everyone be given
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    | timestamp = 01:28:03.199
    | text      = the choices to do what they desire, when a venue refuses money based on some sort of
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    | timestamp = 01:28:10.119
    | text      = political opinion, how dare they?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:13.119
    | text      = How dare they stand up for that not a first amendment right they have to deny me giving
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:28:19.319
    | text      = whatever I want.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:20.319
    | text      = Does he think that like, if you paid for it, a theater should be forced to let you screen
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:24.439
    | text      = Song of the South or Triumph of the Will?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:27.439
    | text      = Clearly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:28.439
    | text      = Like, why?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:29.439
    | text      = Well, because they didn't let him do it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:31.720
    | text      = That's cancel culture.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:32.720
    | text      = I'm a whiny baby is what he said.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:34.079
    | text      = And also isn't free association like one of the main pillars of Alex's ideology?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:28:38.659
    | text      = This question and Alex's reaction to it in essence reveal that Alex's libertarian leanings
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:43.760
    | text      = and those bedrock ideas are just lip service.
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    | text      = He fully supports the right of a business to not serve someone because they're black
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    | text      = or because they're gay, but he'll cry bloody murder if a theater doesn't want to air his
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    | text      = stupid documentary.
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    | text      = Also again, this question is basically just teeing Alex or Alex up to complain about how
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    | text      = everyone's been so mean to them because they were brave enough to make this film.
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    | text      = And that Jordan is good journalism.
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    | text      = I'm going to tell you this right now.
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    | text      = I'm going to tell you this right now.
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    | text      = People have not been anywhere near mean enough to them.
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    | text      = I'm doing my best and I'm not being mean enough to them.
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    | text      = Yeah, I'm trying.
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    | text      = We're fighting so hard to be mean to these people.
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    | text      = And it's not...
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    | text      = They don't know what mean is, man.
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    | text      = And it's not meanness born out of bad faith or ill will or some kind of a hostility towards
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    | text      = It's righteous fury.
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    | text      = Well, it's a...
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    | text      = This is unjust!
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    | text      = It's a reaction to the thing that they made or did.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = On the merits.
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    | text      = They should be treated way harsher based on how bad the shit they're doing is.
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    | text      = Disgusting.
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    | text      = So anyway, Moyer comes in to answer this question about finding a venue.
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    | text      = Have you had problems with the film, like this film, getting distribution and other
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    | text      = kind of publicity for it that you didn't have with the first film?
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    | text      = Have you noticed greater difficulty?
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    | text      = There's a bare shit in the woods.
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    | text      = Well, sort of, but also we read the tea leaves after what happened with our last film and
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    | text      = we took matters into our own hands and things to play nice.
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    | text      = Hi.
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    | text      = We, you know, we started basically talking to people outside of Hollywood and I'm not...
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    | text      = I mean, I don't...
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    | text      = I'm a free agent.
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    | text      = I'm not playing nice, but we're a team on this movie for sure.
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    | text      = And there are people that are interested in seeing authentic content, you know, and 1AM
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    | text      = DC and Amanda Milius can vouch for that too.
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    | text      = So Play Nice is the company that distributed the film and it's run by that guy who used
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    | text      = to be in charge of Cine Family until he got forced out because of rampant sexual harassment
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    | text      = complaints against him and then the theater went out of business.
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    | text      = Incidentally, Play Nice was founded partially with the investment from Peter Thiel.
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    | text      = I'm sure that's a totally benign thing and not at all suspicious.
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    | text      = You know what's crazy?
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    | text      = Play Nice's next film is about how he's not guilty of any of those sexual assaults that
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    | text      = Do you know why?
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    | text      = He was drunk, Dan!
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    | text      = Also, I'm not sure how much stock I'd put into Amanda Milius vouching for Moyer's free
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    | text      = agency considering that Milius produced and directed The Plot Against the President, the
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    | text      = Trump propaganda film that two of the producers of that film are producers of Alex's War.
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    | text      = Unbeholden.
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    | text      = It was smart of Milius to shorten the title of that movie from the title of the book that
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    | text      = it's based on, which is, quote, The Plot Against the President, the true story of how Congressman
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    | text      = Devin Nunes uncovered the biggest political scandal in U.S. history.
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    | text      = That title probably wouldn't have aged quite as well as the shortened version.
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    | text      = It could have been, it could have really hurt.
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    | text      = Could have really hurt later on.
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    | text      = The Plot Against the President, the true story of how Congressman Devin Nunes tried to sue
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    | text      = a Twitter account.
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    | text      = The capital has fallen and that's a good thing.
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    | text      = Uh oh, nope, where should we head in the, oh boy.
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    | text      = So here's what is essentially the last question of this interview.
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    | text      = You seem to be somebody who from the very beginning, you know, were saying things that
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    | text      = in your community and in your politics and in the media were things that were going to
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    | text      = cause you to be cast aside as a crazy person or as a conspiracy theorist going back to
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    | text      = the 90s with Waco and the FBI and those sorts of things.
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    | text      = Why did that happen?
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    | text      = Why, why did you end up on this path that caused you to just constantly be so skeptical
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    | text      = of what you're told by authority?
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    | text      = You know, my, my uncle, William Forrest Hammond was a heroic helicopter pilot in Vietnam and
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    | text      = then he worked in Iran Contra and he wouldn't tell me all the secret stuff, but he, he said
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    | text      = when I was like a teenager, I was like, I like Rush Limbaugh and he goes, the Republicans
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    | text      = are controlled, Democrats are controlled and it's all, I was down there visiting for like
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    | text      = two weeks in San Antonio.
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    | text      = And he just, he said, let me just take you back on the back porch and let's sit down
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    | text      = and, you know, eat a sandwich.
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    | text      = Talk about this.
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    | text      = And he told me about a lot of the stuff he saw in Vietnam and how he did these things
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    | text      = he was told to do.
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    | text      = And then he got worse and worse and worse to the moment he said no.
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    | text      = And it was narcotics trafficking in Vietnam and then it was everything, you know, with
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    | text      = the Iran Contra.
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    | text      = It met a point where they were, they were smuggling kids out of orphanages, you know,
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    | text      = where they were going.
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    | text      = And he said at that point he was done.
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    | text      = And so he told me about all that.
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    | text      = And then I had other family, uh, you know, that were involved in black operations back
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    | text      = when it was all human intelligence and like the Russians were actually here and they were
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    | text      = actually in wars.
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    | text      = So my dad's cousin was involved in a bunch of stuff.
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    | text      = And so I grew up kind of like sitting around the dinner table, like hearing these people
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    | text      = talk about this stuff.
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    | text      = And so I kind of knew what was going on, what other people didn't.
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    | text      = I was just growing up around that.
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    | text      = And so I kind of heard that and then my dad was heavily involved in geopolitics and research
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    | text      = and all these books around the house.
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    | text      = And so I kind of grew up around that and these were like pro-American people, but they were
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    | text      = saying the government's bad.
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    | text      = The government did a lot of bad stuff.
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    | text      = There was a bad group taking over, but they weren't telling me this, you know, there's
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    | text      = a bumper sticker.
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    | text      = If you want your children to listen, whisper.
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    | text      = They weren't telling me this stuff.
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    | text      = This was me hiding around the corner, like listening to what they were talking about.
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    | text      = And so that, that's why I had a leg up on it all was because of a bunch of family stuff.
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    | text      = Well, I wonder if Glenn would ask a follow-up if Alex was clear about what he's talking
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    | text      = about and it's all the John Birch Society shit.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Like I wonder if Glenn would debase himself enough to be like, yeah, the JBS, they were
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    | text      = onto something.
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    | text      = Right?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:34:33.960
    | text      = Maybe.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:34.960
    | text      = Listen, one, I get all of my greatest wisdom from bumper stickers and two, my parents didn't
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    | text      = tell me a lot about the John Birch Society.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They just told me that black people were part of a communist plot to take over America and
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    | text      = that we need to fight against the Russians as well as civil rights with everything that
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    | text      = we've ever got.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:50.000
    | text      = They didn't tell me that.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They just yelled about it to their friends all the time and had a house full of books
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    | text      = about the topic.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Picture books.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:57.859
    | text      = It's the only things I could read.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:58.859
    | text      = Exactly.
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    | timestamp = 01:34:59.859
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:00.859
    | text      = So also this question that Glenn is asking is framed on a lie.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:04.699
    | text      = Like he's like pretending that what Alex did was bold.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:08.779
    | text      = Like his shit wasn't unpopular in the community he was in and the politics that he had.
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    | timestamp = 01:35:13.600
    | text      = In conspiracy theory, anti-government militia, anti-communist worlds, everything Alex was
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    | text      = saying was popular and basically the standard doctrine.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:22.359
    | text      = It was pandering.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:23.359
    | text      = Yes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:24.359
    | text      = Glenn's acting like Alex had a job at CNN hosting a nightly show and then he did what
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    | text      = he did.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like he took a brave stand.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:30.960
    | text      = It wasn't brave to be a conspiracy theorist in a community of conspiracy theorists.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:36.500
    | text      = Maybe it would be if you were expected to not be insane, but that was never the expectation
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    | timestamp = 01:35:40.579
    | text      = for Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:41.579
    | text      = He was in an insane world.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:43.600
    | text      = The person they're really talking about here is David Icke.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:46.939
    | text      = That guy sucks and is wrong about everything, but what he did took a lot of nerve.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:51.380
    | text      = He was already a big mainstream celebrity and he essentially threw that all away to
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:55.500
    | text      = go down a crazy conspiracy path.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:57.920
    | text      = Alex was just born on that path and followed along doing the things that got him positive
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:01.939
    | text      = reinforcement until we're here.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:05.100
    | text      = Until he wound up saying that David Icke was right all along.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:08.100
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:09.100
    | text      = The turd in the punch bowl.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:10.100
    | text      = The punch bowl is a delicious turd.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:12.420
    | text      = But yeah, they're pretending that Alex did that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:16.279
    | text      = David Icke went on TV and said that he's Jesus.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:19.939
    | text      = I'm just so mad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:21.579
    | text      = I'm tired of people being allowed to gaslight me this bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:26.020
    | text      = It's pretty rough.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:27.020
    | text      = Just be like, hey man, I think that McDonald's nuggets are good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:31.060
    | text      = Fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:32.060
    | text      = You're gaslighting me, but that's fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:33.380
    | text      = I think McDonald's nuggets are fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:35.060
    | text      = See, I'm sick of you gaslighting me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:36.060
    | text      = They're not good, but they're fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:36:38.060
    | text      = Yes, exactly.
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    | text      = So Greenwald starts talking about what life would be if you'd made a different choice.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = And mic down for this because there's a slip of the tongue and I want to make sure you
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    | text      = Oh, okay.
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    | text      = So before I came here I was thinking about where I would be instead of here if I had
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    | text      = made different choices to pursue the kind of mainstream acceptability that I was interested
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    | text      = in wondering why you had rejected.
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    | text      = That's meaningful.
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    | text      = There were two paths.
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    | text      = There were accountability and acceptability.
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    | text      = That is a really good point.
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    | text      = Accountability is really what he's rejecting.
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    | text      = You want to pretend that you're a rebel shunning acceptability, but that's a farce.
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    | text      = You just don't want to be held accountable for the things you do and Alex is basically
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    | text      = the avatar of that shit.
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    | text      = I have lost so much accessibility with my 1.8 million followers.
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    | text      = What I have is accountability with my ability to harass people with less of an audience
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    | text      = than I do and receive no consequences for it.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Whoops.
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    | text      = Whoa.
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    | text      = Fun slip of the tongue.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So anyway, here we go.
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    | text      = This is the last clip we have.
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    | text      = This is just sort of a wrap up and after this there's not really anything just Glenn saying
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    | text      = goodbye to the audience.
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    | text      = So before I came here I was thinking about where I would be instead of here if I had
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    | text      = made different choices to pursue the kind of mainstream acceptability that I was interested
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    | text      = in wondering why you had rejected.
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    | text      = And I was thinking I'd probably be in the CNN building with Wolf Blitzer and Chris Hayes
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    | text      = and like Amy Klobuchar and Nancy Pelosi wanting to kill myself out of boredom and disgust
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    | text      = and you know I refer to this crowd as like a kind of crowd of misfits and outcasts and
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    | text      = it is and I'm so happy, so much happier to be around people like this who place themselves
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    | text      = on the outside and decide that they're not going to pay that price of kind of embracing
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    | text      = things they don't believe for whatever rewards they offer and you've been doing this for
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = decades and taking all kinds of slings and arrows and you yourself recognize you've made
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    | text      = a lot of mistakes.
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    | text      = But I'm really glad you've been doing what you're doing.
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    | text      = Well then I appreciate you coming.
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    | text      = I appreciate Alex whole thing and thanks absolutely.
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    | text      = Just to close on that.
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    | text      = Thanks Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I was just thinking you know, but thank you being in the movie and you know, I never really
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    | text      = thank you for well you guys are being too nice but but but the difference is I didn't
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    | text      = make mistakes on purpose.
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    | text      = Oh my God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We all get better.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We all fix them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But the larger issue is we have a lot of good.
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    | text      = I was going to ask you, did you make mistakes on purpose or did you do them intentionally?
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    | text      = So you knew.
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    | text      = You know what?
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    | text      = I said it five times.
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    | text      = Yeah, you're right.
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    | text      = See, it's funny.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Hilarious.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The crowd laughs and claps at Glenn finally acknowledging that Alex keeps saying that
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = you know that he doesn't lie on purpose.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's cathartic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's a tension breaker because the joke is that they all know that Alex absolutely lies
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = on purpose and has been for the past 40 minutes or whatever he's been on stage.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's the price of admission.
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    | text      = You want the attention and outsider credibility that you can gain from associating with Alex?
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    | text      = Then you better stick to kayfabe and present Alex how he wants to be seen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Glenn understands that which is why he didn't acknowledge the constant insistences that
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    | text      = Alex doesn't lie on purpose.
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    | text      = To do so would be to call out that very notion and call it into question, whereas it needs
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    | text      = just to be taken as a given.
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    | text      = It's just a fundamental fact.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The audience laughs because they're in on the joke.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They know that Alex lies on purpose, but their ability to use him as an avatar of their hatred
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    | text      = of the mainstream press and the establishment, it requires that they maintain the same kayfabe
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that Glenn is bound by.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:40:22.300
    | text      = There's nothing challenging or brave about this content, and the congratulations these
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = idiots give themselves for engaging in it is hollow and meaningless.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = What would actually be challenging is putting Alex in an uncomfortable position where he
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    | text      = has to wrestle with the idea that his evasions and lies and self-contradictions aren't gonna
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    | text      = fly and see how he reacts.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There's nothing challenging about filming a lie or lie and then interviewing about his
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    | text      = lies as if they're truth.
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    | text      = But you don't act like this because you know Alex doesn't actually need you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He wants the press of the movie, but he's fine without you.
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    | text      = You need him.
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    | text      = And if you don't make yourself a good little soldier in Alex's imaginary war, he's not
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    | text      = gonna play ball and you don't get him.
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    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:41:05.859
    | text      = So fuck you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:06.859
    | text      = I mean, here's the, you know, we were, we, our last episode, which we recorded so long
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    | timestamp = 01:41:11.859
    | text      = ago, about standup comedy reminds me of something important for this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:18.979
    | text      = When I was coming up, there was one joke that I, that I told that really worked well.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:25.380
    | text      = And then as I kept telling it, I realized that I didn't know, I didn't understand why
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    | text      = it worked.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I didn't understand what the people were laughing at.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I didn't know what I was really saying that made them release that tension, which is what
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = the laughter really is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:40.739
    | text      = And it was a fucked up thing to say.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:42.619
    | text      = I thought I was being very satirical and smart and doing all of that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:46.479
    | text      = But the reason that they were laughing is because they were thinking I was saying it
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = literally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:50.939
    | text      = That, that can happen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:51.939
    | text      = You know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:41:52.939
    | text      = And I'm not doing the joke because if you understand why people are laughing, then you
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:41:56.220
    | text      = understand what it is you're actually saying and what it is they are understanding you
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:41:59.939
    | text      = to say.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:00.939
    | text      = That laugh became, because that unacknowledgement had been in the air the entire fucking show.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:06.659
    | text      = Yes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:07.659
    | text      = And it came, and it came as a laugh because when he released the tension, what the tension
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:42:11.680
    | text      = release was, was it's fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:42:14.180
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:15.180
    | text      = It's fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:16.180
    | text      = It's fine to imagine that it doesn't matter that Alex lies intentionally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:20.260
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:21.260
    | text      = Who cares?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:22.260
    | text      = That's what the joke is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:23.260
    | text      = The joke is we don't even have to bother.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:25.260
    | text      = And the joke is imagining Glenn ever even asking that question to begin with.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:30.859
    | text      = 100.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:31.859
    | text      = Because this is silly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:32.859
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:33.859
    | text      = It's ridiculous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:34.859
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:35.859
    | text      = Everybody has participated in a farce, and then Glenn Greenwald gets to pop the balloon
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:38.100
    | text      = at the end because it's over and everybody gets to go home and pretend that they weren't
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:41.699
    | text      = part of this farce in the fucking first place.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:43.380
    | text      = Well honestly, he has to pop the balloon because the audience laughed when Alex said it the
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:48.039
    | text      = last time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:49.039
    | text      = Yeah, that's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:50.039
    | text      = He has to address the fact that they laughed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:51.260
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:52.260
    | text      = So he has to just break the tension.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:53.260
    | text      = That's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:54.260
    | text      = Whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:55.260
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:56.260
    | text      = And make the very idea of asking that question the joke itself.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:58.659
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:59.659
    | text      = And yeah, it's nonsense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:01.619
    | text      = It's awareness and it's bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:02.619
    | text      = This is such bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:03.619
    | text      = It's fucking bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:04.619
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:05.619
    | text      = It is pathetic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:06.619
    | text      = And that is a sad, sad, sad, sad, sad man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:09.300
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:10.300
    | text      = I mean, if you're sucking the boot of Alex Jones and really trying to get the whole thing
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:13.819
    | text      = in your mouth, as much of that boot as you can, you're not doing good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:17.899
    | text      = That paycheck better have been huge.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:19.340
    | text      = It better be big, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:21.460
    | text      = Wolf.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:22.460
    | text      = Woo, Nelly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:23.460
    | text      = I can't believe that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:24.699
    | text      = So I think this was one of the, I mean, it was way worse than I think I expected it to
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:29.020
    | text      = be.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:30.020
    | text      = I really am blindsided.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:32.420
    | text      = Truly and honestly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:33.420
    | text      = And your expectations were low.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:34.859
    | text      = My expectations are so low.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:36.380
    | text      = I mean, I'm fine with Glenn asking insanely long questions because that's just how the
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:42.180
    | text      = moron talks, you know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:43.659
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:44.659
    | text      = But this is bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:45.659
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:46.659
    | text      = This is bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:47.659
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:48.659
    | text      = And it's almost, I think those questions could have been asked by a broom.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:53.579
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:54.579
    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:55.579
    | text      = Absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:56.579
    | text      = More concisely and better.
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    | timestamp = 01:43:57.579
    | text      = They weren't thoughtful.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:58.579
    | text      = There weren't follow-ups.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:59.579
    | text      = Anyway, I find all of this just so annoying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:08.140
    | text      = Distasteful.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:09.140
    | text      = So, I mean, this brings us to the end of our arc, I guess, with Alex's war.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:13.500
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:14.500
    | text      = And that documentary is bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:17.460
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:18.539
    | text      = It's dangerous because it lends itself towards mainstreaming Alex, it foists Alex upon an
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:28.140
    | text      = unsuspecting population.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:31.659
    | text      = If you go into that documentary without an awareness of who he is, which many people
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:35.859
    | text      = probably will, just be like, I've heard this name, let's see this documentary about him
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:40.619
    | text      = or something.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:41.619
    | text      = Or they know him as just the gay frogs guy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:43.779
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:44.779
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:45.779
    | text      = Who wants to very seriously endanger somebody by making them more likely to buy into his
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:54.140
    | text      = shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:55.140
    | text      = Well, what you're saying to the people who know him or don't know, who know him as the
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:58.460
    | text      = gay frog guy or don't know him at all is yes, look at this man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:03.079
    | text      = He's the gay frog guy, but he's more than that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:06.039
    | text      = He's a human who makes mistakes and he's a man with principled political stances and
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:11.100
    | text      = it's fucking bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:12.539
    | text      = It's all a lie.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:13.659
    | text      = It's all bullshit and she sucks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:15.939
    | text      = I think humanizing Alex is totally fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:18.619
    | text      = And I do think that one or two dimensional caricatures of him are counterproductive.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:23.619
    | text      = I a hundred percent agree with that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:25.779
    | text      = I just don't think that that's what this is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:28.239
    | text      = I think that this is an attempt to humanize the version of Alex that he wants people to
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:32.939
    | text      = see.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:33.939
    | text      = And that is not what a documentary is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:37.060
    | text      = You're not showing the accurate picture.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:38.800
    | text      = You're showing the mask that Alex wears and not really giving any indication that it's
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:44.819
    | text      = a mask.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:45.819
    | text      = You're not giving, like, it's just, you're fucking over your audience if you do this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:51.460
    | text      = And Glenn is too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:52.460
    | text      = And it's, uh, whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:53.460
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:45:54.460
    | text      = You have every right to do it, but like any kind of pretense of like, this is somehow
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:01.739
    | text      = a challenging piece of work that we're doing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:05.260
    | text      = No, no, it's not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:06.979
    | text      = You're playing the recorder and pretending it's a tuba or whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:12.539
    | text      = You've created a golem of Alex Jones in order to allow the real Alex Jones to avoid consequences
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:20.380
    | text      = for his behavior.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:21.939
    | text      = That's what it is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:23.180
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:24.180
    | text      = And let us not forget quite sincerely, this Q and A and this premiere of this documentary
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:35.100
    | text      = was set to happen just before the trial was to begin.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:40.060
    | text      = Glenn Greenwald came to Austin to engage in a promotional event with Alex, doing these
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:48.140
    | text      = softball bullshit questions after this puff piece ass shallow documentary in the context
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:55.819
    | text      = of the same city, right around the same time that Alex is trying to avoid responsibility
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:03.380
    | text      = for his actions vis-a-vis Sandy Hook.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:47:07.220
    | text      = And Glenn is essentially a media outlet cheerleader for him in those efforts.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:15.060
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:16.060
    | text      = Willingly, unwittingly, wittingly, who knows?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:18.979
    | text      = It doesn't matter if you lie on purpose or not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:23.100
    | text      = I guess that's really what it comes down to.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:24.579
    | text      = That's what it comes down to.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:26.180
    | text      = Glenn is saying to Alex, it's a good thing that you keep saying you don't lie on purpose,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:30.239
    | text      = so I don't have to say I don't lie on purpose.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:33.220
    | text      = Jesus.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:34.220
    | text      = So, anyway.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:35.220
    | text      = We deserve each other.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:36.220
    | text      = We'll be back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:37.220
    | text      = But until then, we have a website.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:38.699
    | text      = We do have a website.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:39.699
    | text      = It's knowledgefight.com.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:40.699
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:41.699
    | text      = We're also on Twitter.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:42.699
    | text      = We are on Twitter.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:43.699
    | text      = It's at knowledge underscore fight dot go to bed Jordan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:44.699
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:45.699
    | text      = We'll be back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:46.699
    | text      = But until then, I'm Neo.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:47.699
    | text      = I'm Leo.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:48.699
    | text      = I'm DZX Clark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:49.699
    | text      = I'm Alex's empty bottle of vodka before he got on air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:54.340
    | text      = And now, here comes the sex robots.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:56.859
    | text      = Andy in Kansas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:57.859
    | text      = You're on the air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:58.859
    | text      = Thanks for holding.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:59.859
    | text      = Hello, Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:00.859
    | text      = I'm a first time caller.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:01.859
    | text      = I'm a huge fan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:03.420
    | text      = I love your work.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:04.420
    | text      = Thank you so much for having me.
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