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    | title         = [[400: One Out Of Five Seems High]]
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    | episodeNumber = [[400: One Out Of Five Seems High|400]]
    | length        = 01:16:51
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    | text      = Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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    | text      = Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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    | text      = Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight.
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    | text      = Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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    | text      = Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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    | text      = I love you.
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    | text      = Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.
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    | text      = I'm Jordan.
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    | text      = We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages,
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    | text      = and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Indeed we are, Dan.
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    | text      = Jordan.
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    | text      = Dan!
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    | text      = Jordan.
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    | text      = How do you feel about steroids in baseball?
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    | text      = Do you think they should be in the Hall of Fame?
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    | text      = I don't know, I don't really have a strong position on that.
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    | text      = I think on a human level, I don't like people using steroids in competition,
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    | text      = but I also have no...
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    | text      = You don't have a rooting interest in that.
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    | text      = Not really.
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    | text      = I think that's up to the people who are in charge of the Hall, let's say,
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    | text      = or the MLB or whatever.
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    | text      = If they want to allow people to juice, then go for it.
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    | text      = I think it's bad.
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    | text      = I think you'd end up with people...
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    | text      = You'd end up with a lot of people really severely harmed by that.
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    | text      = I think it's not a good thing to do, but if it's...
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    | text      = Are you going to let them in the Hall or not?
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    | text      = That's up to you guys.
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    | text      = Ah, fair.
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    | text      = How about the Astro sign stealing scandal?
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    | text      = Are you paying attention to that?
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    | text      = We talked about this already.
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    | text      = Have we?
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    | text      = Yeah, and my response was, I don't know anything about that.
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    | text      = Oh, that's right.
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    | text      = Well, it's continuing on.
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    | text      = Is that right?
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    | text      = It's never-ending.
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    | text      = Is it gotten worse?
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    | text      = Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = More and more people are calling for the series to be taken away.
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    | text      = Geez.
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    | text      = Rob Manfred, the commissioner, is calling the trophy, which has his name on it,
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    | text      = a little piece of metal.
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    | text      = It's bad.
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    | text      = Yeah, that does sound pretty shitty.
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    | text      = I don't know, man.
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    | text      = I don't really have any strong feelings about that.
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    | text      = I'm torn because my sort of chaotic side is like, let them cheat.
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    | text      = There is a part of it that's like, fuck sportsmanship.
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    | text      = If you're crafty enough to get away with cheating, go for it.
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    | text      = But then the other part of me knows that that's no way for...
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    | text      = It sets a bad precedent.
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    | text      = Like the cyclists with motors on their bikes for the Tour de France?
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    | text      = That would probably...
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    | text      = That might be too far.
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    | text      = That does have a very serious effect on the purity of the turf, as they say.
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    | text      = So yeah, I don't know. I think if it were up to me, if I were in charge...
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    | text      = Yes, that's a good question.
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    | text      = I would not allow it.
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    | text      = You wouldn't allow it.
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    | text      = But I will never be in that position where I'll have any impact on that.
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    | text      = Fair, fair.
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    | text      = So I don't really have a strong feeling.
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    | text      = Cut to the world being stranger than 30 years and you're the commissioner of MLB.
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    | text      = That makes sense.
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    | text      = Yeah, that would be insane.
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    | text      = Yeah, why not?
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    | text      = I could see it happening.
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    | text      = Give me a plausible series of events that would lead to you there.
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    | text      = I apply on LinkedIn.
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    | text      = Gotcha, gotcha.
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    | text      = Gotcha.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Monster.com, is that still around?
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    | text      = ZipRecruiter, I think.
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    | text      = Oh, that's the new one?
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    | text      = I think they're looking for ZipRecruiter, yeah.
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    | text      = No, probably won't happen.
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    | text      = I do not know much about this stuff, but Jordan, I do know a lot about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Oh, and I know a lot about the former and nothing about the latter.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = So today, Jordan, what I thought we would do here on this here Wednesday episode is
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    | text      = I think that our last episode was a little too much.
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    | text      = A little too murder heavy.
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    | text      = A little murder-y?
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    | text      = A lot of murder.
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    | text      = A lot of Alex calling for that Cambridge professor to kill herself.
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    | text      = Yeah, he needs to go on timeout.
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    | text      = We've kind of turned into a preemptive true crime podcast.
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    | text      = It doesn't feel that way.
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    | text      = We're watching true crime happen.
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    | text      = Yeah, and you know, the present day has so much stuff going on in it that you feel like
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    | text      = it's really felt like you need to keep up with what Alex is doing.
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    | text      = And I still do believe that, but I need to put him in timeout.
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    | text      = Yes, please.
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    | text      = So we needed to take, we need to take an excursion off into something completely different.
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    | text      = Good.
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    | text      = And you know, it could have been, you know, could have been a Bill Cooper episode, but
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    | text      = I almost feel like that's too close.
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    | text      = I'm waiting for you to be like, and John Wayne Gacy was on Bill Cooper's show.
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    | text      = So let's talk about that.
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    | text      = No, no, no.
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    | text      = That seems too close.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So I wanted to even go far afield of that.
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    | text      = And so I've got some, something fun, I think.
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    | text      = Good.
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    | text      = To go over.
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    | text      = But before we get down to that, Jordan, we got to take a moment to say thank you to some
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    | text      = folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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    | text      = So first, Abby, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you, Abby.
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    | text      = Next, John, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You're now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you John.
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    | text      = Thank you John.
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    | text      = Next, Heather, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thanks Heather.
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    | text      = Thank you Heather.
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    | text      = Next, Cynthia.
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    | text      = Thank you so much.
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    | text      = You're now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you Cynthia.
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    | text      = Thank you Cynthia.
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    | text      = Next, Eve Vokative, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you very much.
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    | text      = Eve Vokative.
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    | text      = Yeah then Hal, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = nonprofit.
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    | text      = Okay. And then finally I'd like to say thank you to a couple people donated on an elevated level
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    | text      = and we appreciate that very much. So John with no H, P, John P, you are now a technocrat. And Jeffrey,
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    | text      = thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic.
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    | text      = Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson,
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    | text      = all right? Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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    | text      = Why are you pimped so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you.
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    | text      = Thank you so much, John P. And thank you so much, Jeffrey.
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    | text      = Yes. Thank you very much to the both of you. And also thank you to Hal. I forgot to say thank you.
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    | text      = Oh yeah. Very rude of you.
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    | text      = Yeah. It was very rude.
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    | text      = If you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show. I'd like to support these
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    | text      = jets too. You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com. There's a button there that
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    | text      = says sports show. You can click it and thank you. It would be lovely. So Jordan, back in 2017.
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    | text      = Yes. When we were young. Well, you know, that's when we, I mean,
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    | text      = we started the podcast in January of 2017. And then a little ways down the road,
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    | text      = we started doing project Camelot episodes because I wanted to tell you about the wonderful world of
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    | text      = wacky space. It was a wonderful, wonderful world for a short period of time. Along the way,
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    | text      = it has become less fun. It has become less fun.
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    | text      = As we learn more things about the sorts of people that hang around that get interviewed
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    | text      = by Carrie Cassidy and some of the opinions that Carrie may herself hold.
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    | text      = Yeah. Scratch a scammer. And it turns out they hate Jews. It's really weird.
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    | text      = And maybe not hate, but have weird feelings about, and maybe hate, I don't know. So
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    | text      = it became less fun. And it's just this, it's become a thing where I want to do more space
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    | text      = weirdo episodes and project Camelot, but also it really, it only makes sense really when
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    | text      = Mark Richards comes around, who is a guy who's a murderer and a true crime podcast.
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    | text      = He is a space captain who has a, uh, a living spaceship Minerva that flies around with and
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    | text      = Raptors will kill you for chocolate. Occasionally occasionally as a Lieutenant cellmate.
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    | text      = Yes, but he's never mentioned again, brought up once and then disappeared.
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    | text      = So I was thinking about it and like when we started this, it was in 2017. Also,
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    | text      = it was when we first had our project Camelot thing and it was not a Mark Richards episode.
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    | text      = That was our second episode. The first one was about Randy Kramer, who was a super soldier,
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    | text      = allegedly who has access to holographic med beds that will regenerate you and what have you. And I
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    | text      = started to think about it as like, why did we do that? It couldn't have just been that I thought
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    | text      = something was weird about space and I wanted to tell you about it, even though, you know,
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    | text      = there is some element that wasn't what precipitated that. That wasn't what prompted it.
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    | text      = What was it? What was Randy Kramer in specific therefore?
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    | text      = Well, here, here's what I want to tell you. I remembered that the reason that we did that
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    | text      = episode in the first place was that Alex Jones had an interview with a guy named Robert David Steel,
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    | text      = who had come on his show and said that kids are being kidnapped and taken to Mars bases.
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    | text      = Yes, that's true. And he caused a severe backlash for Alex of everyone being like,
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    | text      = you think there's bars bases. I never said that. So here is that clip from Alex's show back in
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    | text      = 2017, where Robert David Steel came on and was talking about how kids are being kidnapped and
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    | text      = taken to space. Let me see what Robert David Steel has to say. Go ahead. No, I agree with that. And
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    | text      = let me just point out, let me just point out that pedophilia does not stop with sodomizing children.
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    | text      = It goes straight into terrorizing them to adrenalize their blood and then murdering them.
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    | text      = It also includes murdering them so that they can have their bone marrow harvested as well as body
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    | text      = parts. Pedophilia is much bigger. This is the original growth hormone. Yes, yes. It's an
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    | text      = anti-aging thing. And this may strike your listeners as way out, but we actually believe
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    | text      = that there is a colony on Mars that is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space
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    | text      = on a 20-year ride. So that once they get to Mars, they have no alternative but to be slaves on the
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    | text      = Mars colony. There's all kinds of... He's right. Look, I know 90% of the NASA missions are secret,
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    | text      = and I've been told by high-level NASA engineers that you have no idea. There's so much stuff
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    | text      = going on. But then it goes off into all that. I mean, that's the kind of thing the media jumps on.
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    | text      = But I know this. We see a bunch of mechanical wreckage on Mars, and people say, oh, look,
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    | text      = it looks like mechanics. They go, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. Clearly, they don't want us
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    | text      = looking into what's happening. Every time probes go over, they turn them off. Alex, you're one of
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    | text      = the most original guys on the air. And you asked, what should you do? I think you should be the
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    | text      = truth channel in America. So there was a real lack of any kind of pushing back or anything,
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    | text      = Alex. It was like, hey, man, look, often these theories go into this sort of thing. But hey,
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    | text      = man, everything's secret, and they're doing crazy shit. Who knows? 90% of NASA's missions are
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    | text      = secret. Right, right. So what Alex's response was to Robert David Steele saying that the kids are
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    | text      = being kidnapped and taken to Mars bases was like, maybe. Yep. Why not? It wasn't like show your
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    | text      = work. So Alex deserved all of the criticism that he got for that. And that is what precipitated us
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    | text      = to go down the road of looking at project Camelot to begin with. Yes. Now, recently Carrie got
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    | text      = interviewed by Robert David Steele within the last week or two, I believe. Oh, shit. Yeah,
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    | text      = it was pretty recent. And so I decided why not? If we have this lack of joy in going through these
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    | text      = project Camelot episodes, why not see if we can recapture some of the magic by going back to the
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    | text      = beginning? Let's flip it around. Right. Absolutely. To move forward, you must go back. Yeah, yeah,
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    | text      = yeah, absolutely. Start at the beginning. Yeah. So anyway, Robert David Steele has his own YouTube
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    | text      = channel that he's putting up videos on and spoiler alert, the interview that he did after this one,
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    | text      = the most recent interview, uh, when I just checked was with, uh, Jim Fetzer. Okay. Hey,
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    | text      = wrote the book. No one died at Sandy hook, right? He just lost the lawsuit over, right? Yeah. So he
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    | text      = has some pretty good ability to pick out the guests. We can't all be heroes, dude. So I wanted
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    | text      = to go over this and there's gonna, you know, there's some stuff that might be a little bit meh,
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    | text      = but there's a couple of things in here that I found to be like, this is what I'm looking for.
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    | text      = This is the project Camelot stuff that I've been missing. So, uh, we'll get to that as we go along,
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    | text      = but Robert David Steele opens this up by, uh, uh, just giving Carrie a glowing intro.
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    | text      = Carrie Cassidy, several years ago, I started reading in the extraterrestrial paranormal,
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    | text      = um, nonfiction, uh, domain. And I also started researching online and project Camelot
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    | text      = immediately popped up as one of the top websites in the world. And I remember getting in touch
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    | text      = with you. And I remember us having conversations over time. I've been just tremendously impressed
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    | text      = by, by what you have accomplished and what you're trying to communicate to people.
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    | text      = So please tell us a little bit about just how you got started very, very briefly,
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    | text      = and then talk about some of your classics that are available on your website today.
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    | text      = Some of the classics. People have introduced Mandela with less glowing reviews.
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    | text      = I bet Robert David Steele would. This guy's a communist. That's fair. That's fair.
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    | text      = God, classics like Mark Richards is, uh, 13 or so. 13? No, probably 11. Oh, man. But he's been
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    | text      = interviewed a lot. Eddie Page being a racist alien. That's classic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That
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    | text      = one's in the top five guy with telescope classics. So anyway, Gary gets into talking about some of
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    | text      = the big hits, uh, from the past. And, uh, you know, I have some thoughts about a couple of them.
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    | text      = We were very lucky. And in other words, we not only were approached by top witnesses and,
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    | text      = and people of that nature, but we also, uh, went seeking the very top people. And for some reason,
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    | text      = uh, we were able to get through to them quickly and easily. And in the first year,
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    | text      = we must've talked to some of the best people that ever have come out on this topic or
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    | text      = people who said that they were the best sources on this topic. It's, it's kind of indistinguishable
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    | text      = at a certain point. You got at some point, you got to give people your trust and you got to open
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    | text      = yourself up to trusting people. I agree with you in theory, but this isn't going to be the time.
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    | text      = Okay. So we get into some specifics and one of them is a name that we haven't talked about,
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    | text      = but actually it's someone with a fairly interesting, uh, bit of backstory.
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    | text      = We've got a, a very long segment, uh, segmented interview with myself, my former partner,
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    | text      = Bill Ryan and David Wilcock, all interviewing one person, uh, Dr. Pete Peterson, who has since
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    | text      = passed away, uh, as of about a year ago, but he was a sort of a doctor strange love, uh,
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    | text      = in the secret space program and very instrumental, uh, behind the scenes also involved in the
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    | text      = creation of what you call super soldiers today. So those are a few, uh, captain Mark Richards
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    | text      = came much later in our Camelot history, but, uh, he's also one of the top witnesses.
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    | text      = Sure. He is. So he was a doctor stranger. So Dr. Pete Peterson was also a Nazi.
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    | text      = Please define your terms. You can't just call someone a doctor.
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    | text      = Strange. He's a Nazi, right? I don't know. Oh man. So Pete Peterson is a bit of an old school name
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    | text      = in the paranormal conspiracy type worlds. He, uh, not super old school, but, but I mean,
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    | text      = we're in 2020 now, so it's a ways back, right? You know, I think his initial, like the project
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    | text      = Camelot interview was like 2009 or something. So, you know, it's a decade old. I'm going to call
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    | text      = that old school old enough. Maybe not 1950s, 1970s alien guy. But anyway, he's made a whole ton of
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    | text      = claims over the course of his career. A bit of it having to do with his alleged former employment,
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    | text      = when he was a reverse engineering alien technology. Sure. Interestingly, I was looking
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    | text      = into him a little bit and I was able to find a message board thread from September, 2017 on
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    | text      = project Avalon, which is the website that carries former partner, bill Ryan. Uh, he's been running
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    | text      = since he made a split with Camelot. Okay. So they just, they, now they're just two different
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    | text      = projects. Yes. Okay. Parted ways. He might've been running project Avalon prior to that too,
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    | text      = but it's like his, uh, right, right, right. Gotcha. And I'll be honest, I don't know a
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    | text      = fucking ton about bill Ryan. I've tried to watch some of the interviews that he does.
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    | text      = I find them incredibly boring. Um, like most of this stuff is quite honestly. Um, but there are
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    | text      = a few things that make me think like, all right, this guy is not great, but at least he's not the
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    | text      = worst because he doesn't believe the Mark Richard stuff. Um, and I found this thread and it shows a
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    | text      = little bit of character at least. So here's the first line that sticks out to me in this thread
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    | text      = in this post quote, there's strong reason to believe that Peterson was lying knowingly or
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    | text      = confabulating when he told David Wilcock about the presence of armed police, how his belongings,
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    | text      = including his truck were being seized and much of it was being bulldozed into a pit.
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    | text      = So as it turns out, Jordan, this guy's house, Pete Peterson's house, it was being foreclosed
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    | text      = on. Right. And that story ended up getting told as a secret government attack on him for spilling
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    | text      = truths or something. In reality, it appears that he was basically a hoarder. And when his house
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    | text      = ended up getting taken care of, they ended up finding three dead cats inside and just like a
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    | text      = complete chaos, toxic environment. So that should give you some idea of what was going on. Like,
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    | text      = this is not a situation where there's a secret government bulldozing order with armed guards
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    | text      = trying to keep Pete Peterson away from his house. That's not good. He wasn't even living in that
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    | text      = house at the time. Right. It's all very complicated and wild. Of course. So that main post
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    | text      = that I was reading to you from on this message board, it was written by Bill Ryan. It's not just
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    | text      = some user on the, on the board saying it it's Carrie's former partner. He goes on to say quote,
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    | text      = close examination of Peterson's testimony causes me personally to suspect there is a high
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    | text      = probability that some of the information he presented in the 2009 project Camelot interview
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    | text      = was inaccurate, exaggerated, or invented. I do not anymore believe he was a reliable witness then,
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    | text      = and certainly not now. Put simply, this post is basically Bill Ryan saying that their interview
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    | text      = with this guy was bullshit. He says, quote, we did not see documentation, his DD214, any devices
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    | text      = which he had or had made, never saw his laboratory and never even visited his house at the time.
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    | text      = We did, and this is in capital, this word is in capital letters. A great job. No due diligence.
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    | text      = I was, I saw that go in a different way. No, there's even reason to question his educational
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    | text      = credentials. So apparently some folks who looked into the college that Peterson claimed to have
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    | text      = a degree from found that it's a degree mill that likely wasn't even in existence at the time when
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    | text      = he was supposed to have been in school. So he didn't even get his fake degree. It's unclear.
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    | text      = I don't know. I'm taking, I'm taking a little bit of this patchwork investigation that these people
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    | text      = on the message board have done. Cause I don't really care all that much. It speaks volumes
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    | text      = that Bill Ryan made a followup post after a bunch of people had shown even more reason to doubt
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    | text      = Pete Peterson story. And Bill said, quote, I'm very close to making a public statement of apology
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    | text      = that project Camelot did not do any due diligence at the time. And that at least some of what
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    | text      = Peterson shared with us may have been fictional as each day passes, it looks more and more to be the
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    | text      = case. Uh, man, I, I don't like how you need each day passing. I feel like you didn't need the day.
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    | text      = So you could have just, yeah, maybe an hour, maybe, maybe an hour is what it takes. Suffice
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    | text      = it to say that this was a situation where it appears that Peterson was not a mentally well
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    | text      = person who was elevated and used to validate space weirdo theories based on things he was
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    | text      = just making up, which seems like a pattern with these people. It seems like there's a lot of these
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    | text      = folks that we ended up running into. So you're saying they took advantage of a guy who had,
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    | text      = uh, mental issues in order to support their own narratives and continue their own grips.
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    | text      = It seems like that is a very high out of character for them. As it turns out Peterson's main booster
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    | text      = was David Wilcock, who is a top to your space weirdo con man who believes himself to be the
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    | text      = reincarnation of Edgar Casey. And it's just, he's too prolific of a dude to get into as a side note
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    | text      = on this episode. One day we'll eventually actually do an episode about David Wilcock, but like,
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    | text      = he's so prolifically, like he's done so much. There's so many speeches to like try and figure
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    | text      = out, all right, which one should we cover? He's just too, he's like the ubiquitous and he's like
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    | text      = a buckshot. It's all over the place. There's so much to it that I would have such a hard time
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    | text      = sitting down and like figuring out, all right, here's, what's important. I imagine it will still
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    | text      = only take me about an hour to disbelieve anything. Maybe like a minute. Okay. So it very much seems
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    | text      = to me from what I've been able to, uh, suss out, it seems like David Wilcock was using Peterson
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    | text      = and an article that I found on a website called bended reality really reinforced this feeling.
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    | text      = This article is from December 21st, 2019, which is a little bit after Peterson had died.
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    | text      = Apparently after Pete passed away, David Wilcock did an interview where he was claiming that Pete
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    | text      = had given a deathbed confession, where he was getting ready to come forward about quote,
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    | text      = his experiences visiting 60 to 65 different off planet locations among with other sensational
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    | text      = tales. So close to giving that deathbed confession. So close. So close. So the thing I want to point
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    | text      = out here is like some of these space weirdos, like some of it's fun and dumb, but some of these
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    | text      = people are really shady. They'll profit off you as long as you're useful to the grift and
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    | text      = their industry. But then when you die, they'll try to profit off you. Oh yeah. Yeah. What are
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    | text      = you going to stop trying to get a profit off of the golden goose? It just really bums you out.
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    | text      = Yeah. It's a real bummer. If the golden goose dies, you just sell tickets to see the dead
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    | text      = goose, man. Doesn't matter. So Carrie has this interview that they did with Pete Peterson. I
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    | text      = was like, this was a grand thing that we did. And then another one is a Mark Richards. Like
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    | text      = your list is not great. So Robert David Steele gets down to talking about like what the topics
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    | text      = he wants to cover are. There are four quick things I want to ask you about. The whole human
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    | text      = trafficking thing, the bases on Mars and elsewhere, the kinds of spaceships that we seem to have had
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    | text      = for the last 20 years. I think the president's secret space force is actually a way of justifying,
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    | text      = legitimizing a force that has always existed without congressional approval. Absolutely. Which
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    | text      = is why I think Donald Rumsfeld did not lose $2.1 trillion. It was spent on the secret space force
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    | text      = and underground bases. And then I want to end up by asking you about super soldiers. So let's take
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    | text      = these one at a time, very brief, the Carrie Cassidy understanding. I want to give Robert
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    | text      = David Steele a tiny bit of kudos. And that is again, in terms of the interview styles that I
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    | text      = end up seeing, he's all business. Yeah. He does. He is at least like he's, you'll see, I don't know
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    | text      = if you'll be able to tell just because these are clips as opposed to like listening to the whole
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    | text      = interview, but he does try and stay on focus, which is something I, I find novel. Yeah. I can't
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    | text      = remember the last time. Is he going to stick to these four topics? Okay. See, now this is wild
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    | text      = because Alex usually will give you a list of topics and then never touch on it. It almost
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    | text      = feels like this dude has notes. Yeah. Okay. Here are the bullet points. He's got bullet points.
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    | text      = Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I, it's faint praise though. Cause I also think he's, uh, a little
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    | text      = bit, uh, you know, I mean, uh, it would be, you know, it's faint praise to say that, uh,
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    | text      = Donald Trump could write a hamburger essay for instance. He couldn't, but it would be
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    | text      = faint praise if he could, the, the thing that I find is like, okay, so these four topics are
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    | text      = going to be like, those are all like right where Carrie can hit a dinger out of the park. But like
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    | text      = when you have like, okay, I think that Trump is making this space force in order to legitimize
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    | text      = the secret space program. I love it. That's a good angle, right? I mean, that is one possibility.
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    | text      = Another possibility is, uh, he wants, uh, space wars. Yes. That is also possible. Agreed. The
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    | text      = behavior is indistinguishable. So we're doing something completely loony and someone legitimizing
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    | text      = the secret space program. Yeah. Very similar in terms of external appearances. That's tough.
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    | text      = Yeah. I it's hard to parse whenever, uh, uh, all things are possible, I guess. Uh, certainly.
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    | text      = Yeah. Chaotic evil can manifest in many different ways. And that's why you have to take things with
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    | text      = external context in issues like that. I can't tell you why Trump is doing that. I have no idea,
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    | text      = but if they're going to make that argument, then I will rely on other things that are said
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    | text      = in order to help me deduce whether or not I should trust what they're saying. You should
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    | text      = be listening to what is unsaid. Dan, obviously it's obviously it's the notes you don't play,
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    | text      = buddy. So they're talking about, uh, aliens abducting people right from earth. By the way,
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    | text      = by the way, so much happier to be talking about. Absolutely need a break from Alex.
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    | text      = So they're talking about the, you know, and I'm, I'm not here to be Mr. Squaresville and say that
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    | text      = no one gets abducted by aliens. That would be lame. That would be lame. Yeah. I do think the
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    | text      = scale that they're talking about here, paid attention to like what you think it might be
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    | text      = noticeable. I think what Carrie is saying is impossible. What's your understanding of the
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    | text      = degree to which human beings are traded as a food source and as a, uh, as a chemical high source?
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    | text      = The degree, uh, is, is, is very high. Um, I, you know, I, I already talking about a percentage of,
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    | text      = of humans that are, are taken off planet, et cetera. I don't know. Um,
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    | text      = we're missing 8 million people a year. What, uh, is it in that range?
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    | text      = It's it's, I would say it's around 20%. It could be higher than that one in five have been abducted
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    | text      = or are abducted or are being abducted as we speak. They are specifically talking about a food source.
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    | text      = Yeah. I don't think they're coming back. I doubt it. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. So aliens can
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    | text      = get high off their blood. I don't think they're going to be like, Hey, you just, you know, you
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    | text      = do five years as a hallucinogenic blood source and then we'll bring you back. Everything's fine.
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    | text      = Everybody goes about the business. It's not like a year abroad or whatever. You just come back from
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    | text      = with stories about your time in London. I feel like I've been a one-on-one class where the
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    | text      = professor's like, look to your left, look to your right in front of you and back. One of the five
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    | text      = of you will be abducted before the end of this class. One of you will be food.
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    | text      = I would, it does seem high. Cause you know, Robert David steel is saying like, there's
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    | text      = 8 million people that go missing. Like 8 billion or 8 million is way lower than 20% of the world.
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    | text      = What's that? 1.5 billion. I'm not entirely sure. Cause it would, if it was 20%, those people are
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    | text      = probably not on the census or like they're not included in the population. So you'd have to
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    | text      = assume now we don't even know how many people there are. Right. It should be 20% more. Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah. Yeah. This to me, see, and this indicates either like just a inability to like estimate
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    | text      = 20% of the population, or she actually believes like there's a billion people that are being
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    | text      = taken. Yeah. Does, does that mean that our memories are being wiped? So we don't remember
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    | text      = any of these people because in this aspect, there's no way that it would not affect each
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    | text      = and every person on the planet in some way. Well, I mean, assuming, you know, five people,
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    | text      = I mean, even assuming, you know, one person who knows another person who knows another person,
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    | text      = like there's no way not to be affected by the six degrees of Kevin Bacon's abduction. I don't
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    | text      = believe stories of friends of friends. Okay. I don't believe any of it. I don't believe
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    | text      = that's because they're been abducted. Probably. Yeah. So I obviously think this number is a little
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    | text      = high. Okay. And I also think these people, so what do you think? 10% 12% somewhere out there.
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    | text      = Okay. That's reasonable. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 20 ridiculous, ridiculous. Carrie justifies this
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    | text      = number by pointing to like how this could happen. Okay. We're talking about also during wartime.
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    | text      = This is a perfect, or is a perfect cover in which, according to Mark Richards, the reptilians can
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    | text      = come in through the portals in the middle East and abduct large numbers of humans to be used as
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    | text      = slaves and, and for these other purposes. Right. That's fascinating. It's pretty fascinating.
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    | text      = Yeah, I guess so. I guess that's one way to like not have to emotionally wrestle with the fact
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    | text      = that humans do wars against each other. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty hard. Yeah.
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    | text      = You know, that's, that's tough to deal with. It really is difficult to explain when you get
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    | text      = down to it. Sure. And the feelings of culpability that you would naturally maybe have to deal with
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    | text      = about like the things that your country's foreign policy is involved in and that that's hard. So
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    | text      = instead aliens are coming through Stargates and snatching up a billion people. I still,
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    | text      = I don't know which one's worse. I'm going to be honest with you. I think I'm, I think on the
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    | text      = whole, we might be better off with the, uh, with the wars, I guess probably fewer casualties,
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    | text      = but assuming that the alien one isn't real, fair. It is better to believe that one. That's a good
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    | text      = point. It feels better. It does feel a lot better, right? Because it's, we're all, we're all united
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    | text      = against us, a unified enemy. Exactly. Just somebody, or we should know it. Yeah, we should
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    | text      = be everyone else, but a lot of people have the, uh, very nice. So you got to carry saying war
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    | text      = is probably how it's done. Most likely. All of these wars are just the alien snatching people.
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    | text      = Robert David steel has another possibility. I've been very interested in the illegal
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    | text      = alien issue ever since 2002, when I predicted that there would be a mass migration into Europe.
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    | text      = And I realize as you're speaking that there's no way of tallying up the number of refugees
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    | text      = that leave the middle East and the number that arrive in Europe, there's a Delta in there. Ah,
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    | text      = so you see people leave a country, try and migrate somewhere. We don't know how many people left,
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    | text      = how many people arrive aliens. Okay. Okay. Snap. I don't, I, I don't accept his premise.
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    | text      = No, I don't. Maybe we can't get an exact tally, but people who are good at estimating things
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    | text      = might assume that it's fewer than 1.5 billion who are migrating, but it's also probably
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    | text      = more comfortable to assume it's alien snatching people up then like people die trying to flee
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    | text      = countries. Yeah. It's probably much easier to like play around with alien ideas than to recognize,
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    | text      = like, uh, some people end up completely displaced. They end up in a place that they didn't intend to
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    | text      = go through some crazy circumstance. Someone kidnaps them and human traffics them along
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    | text      = the way. Sure. Those things do happen and they're terrifying. There's only one type of alien,
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    | text      = only one type of refugee. And that's a space refugee. Dan, everybody else is kidnapped or
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    | text      = abducted or alien, I guess. I guess so. So this, this, uh, I guess, do you like steal,
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    | text      = I guess it's just sort of like, that's good enough for this topic. Let's move on. Let's move on to
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    | text      = Mars bases. Put a check Mark there. Yeah. So here we get into the bases. Okay. And remember
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    | text      = Robert Davis seal three years ago was on Alex's show saying that he believes that Mars is,
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    | text      = there's bases and, uh, they're taking kids. They're slave children. Where do you think
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    | text      = based on all the witnesses you've talked to, uh, that we have bases, uh, small cities and
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    | text      = fully functional, um, uh, uh, you know, whatever. All right. Well, as far as I'm concerned, we have,
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    | text      = uh, we have bases on the moon and Mars, uh, according to multiple witnesses. I mean,
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    | text      = this is a very, very common knowledge at this point. Two or three, everyone knows
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    | text      = two or three, at least everyone knows. Common knowledge, common knowledge, common knowledge.
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    | text      = We've got moon and Mars base course. Also the moons of Saturn and Jupiter. We've been
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    | text      = terraforming those, which I'm not sure how far along we are, but, but apparently that's quite
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    | text      = a substantial colony or colonies. And then also off planet, uh, not only off planet, but out of
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    | text      = the solar system. So going interstellar in essence, uh, according to Mark, for example, the Raptors
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    | text      = have taken around 200,000 humans that are on a planet that is much farther away than
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    | text      = from our solar system. There are many, many earth-like planets, even conventional scientists
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    | text      = will admit. And, uh, those earth-like planets out in the multiple solar systems out there are, are
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    | text      = where humans would be taken, uh, and abducted to et cetera. I find that fascinating. He finds a
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    | text      = lot of things fascinating. I'm sensing that he has a very standard response. Yeah. I would say
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    | text      = that if I'm, if I'm recalling things correctly, Mark Richards is friends with the Raptors and
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    | text      = they're supposed to be the good guys, but now they've kidnapped 200,000 people and taken them to
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    | text      = some sort of, uh, they all worked for Hershey's dad. They were all carrying chocolate at the same
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    | text      = time. They population of Hershey, Pennsylvania. Ooh, that's a good question. It's 200,000 less
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    | text      = than it should be solved the case. There we go. I think that that makes them bad guys. We've not
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    | text      = into an alien. Uh, you are, you are coming over to my side. I don't know. I don't know if I was
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    | text      = ever opposed to it. I just try and stay neutral. You can't stay neutral in the Raptor reptilian
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    | text      = battle. I take information as it comes to me and Carrie is a Raptor sympathizer. And even she
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    | text      = is saying that they've taken 200,000 people to some weirdo alternate earth planet. And to me,
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    | text      = I find that troubling. It does seem like even in the fake, even in the fake reality, these guys
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    | text      = are always on the side of the bad guy. It does seem that way. So that's enough for bases because
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    | text      = we've established it's common knowledge. There's bases all over the place. Absolutely. And so now
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    | text      = we get into the super soldier question. Sure. Now what about super soldiers is that, uh, I've,
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    | text      = I've read about, I've read about age reversion. Um, so tell me about your sense of the technologies
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    | text      = that have been used to create super soldiers, not only in the outer space context, but here on earth.
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    | text      = Um, okay. Well, we're talking about transhumanism in that case. And this is something that they
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    | text      = are doing and have been doing since, since my understanding is the Duncan of Finian was the
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    | text      = first model super soldier in which he was enhanced, also had additional psychic abilities and powers
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    | text      = and making use of what we call Oregon. It's also called Kundalini in the East. Ah, yes.
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    | text      = Uh, Duncan of Finian, someone that, uh, Carrie and a project Camelot interviewed a while back. And,
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    | text      = uh, you can find a bunch of, uh, people who have dug into him and been like, no, no, come on.
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    | text      = He's got psychic ability. He's the, according to Carrie, he's the first super soldier. Amazing.
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    | text      = She was able to talk to the first one. Yeah. I still think it's Kurt Russell, but okay.
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    | text      = Um, so you got this guy, he's been augmented. It's transhumanism. None of this is very specific.
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    | text      = It's all, it's all very, uh, uh, just like saying words. He has psychic, he has other psychic
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    | text      = abilities as well. I'm not sure what they are. You know, it's really like any and all psychic
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    | text      = abilities would be something I would list to really fucked up in his project Camelot interview.
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    | text      = I was listening to it and he's like 10 years from now, there will be a podcast that makes fun of me.
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    | text      = He was a psychic. That is not true. That bit did not go well. You don't need to be a psychic to
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    | text      = have predicted that that bit would not land. That's like your opening bits on our guests,
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    | text      = uh, appearances. So, uh, you know, we got this Carrie talked to the first super soldier in the
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    | text      = program has been going on ever since that dude. Uh, but Hey man, look, it's not just
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    | text      = the U S to make super soldiers. Of course Nazis wanted it too.
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    | text      = So the Nazis were also the first people at least in this, um, sort of century, I guess,
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    | text      = uh, in the last hundred years that were went down the road of creating a super soldier. So
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    | text      = we were not the first, it came from the Nazis and they were a universal soldier. In fact is a movie
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    | text      = that there we go. I forget which universal soldier it progressively, those there's a sort of series
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    | text      = of universal soldier movies, some dolphin grin in there that really goes back and depicts the Nazis
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    | text      = and the progression of the development of the super soldier. You know, they like to hit hide
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    | text      = in plain sight. So if any, this helps also when there are leaks, because what they can basically
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    | text      = say is they can say, Oh, it was just a movie or the person just saw it. They have a big imagination
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    | text      = in a movie. So I have no idea which a universal soldier movie Carrie's talking about here,
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    | text      = but I assume it would have to be one of the direct to video sequels, which you kind of have to
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    | text      = forgive me. I didn't watch those. Yeah, no, me neither. Uh, this seems like a weird plan to me.
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    | text      = I kind of understand if your predictive programming stuff is in popular media,
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    | text      = like the original universal soldier movie, but it doesn't really make sense for that plan to
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    | text      = extend to the like horribly unsuccessful stuff that no one's seen. Admittedly, I don't believe
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    | text      = in this kind of shit at all, but I also insist that if you're going to play that game, you have
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    | text      = to at least have some kind of a standard, not everything could be predictive program, right?
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    | text      = Right. Like an unpublished script. Can't be predictive programming. A failed pilot cannot
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    | text      = be predictive programming. You have to have a line. What about time cop? I feel like that's
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    | text      = in between universal soldier and universal shoulder is directive. Time cop came in out in
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    | text      = theaters. Fair, fair. That is, I will give you a pass. I don't believe it. I don't agree with you,
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    | text      = but you're playing a fair game. You heard it here. You're not paying, you're not playing fair. If
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    | text      = you're using a direct to direct these equals. Yeah. It's not good. I agree. No, I agree. So
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    | text      = I'm glad we're in agreement there. Yes. So Robert David Steele is like, Hey, you know, like super
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    | text      = soldiers. I've heard of steroids. Is that like steroids? Are they giving them steroids? That's
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    | text      = a reasonable question. Super soldiers die a young age. Do they kind of like, you know, and we've had
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    | text      = a problem with steroids in the NFL and in the military. And if you take enough steroids, your
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    | text      = spine ends up collapsing. Does the super, super technology basically eat the beast or do they
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    | text      = survive it? Well, my understanding is we're talking about technology that is enhancing
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    | text      = creating sat cyborgs. And this is, this is to actually, actually better the human body so that
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    | text      = it's, it can live longer, be more durable and, and obviously fight and, and do all the things
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    | text      = they want it to do. So bigger, faster, bigger, faster, better, that sort of principle. You know,
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    | text      = Jordan, there was a documentary that came out a while back about steroids called a bigger,
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    | text      = stronger, faster, just shockingly close to the words Carrie used to describe these definitely
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    | text      = not steroid super soldier stuff. But maybe, maybe, maybe that documentary was predictive
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    | text      = programming. So I would think that she's actually talking about steroids when she uses almost the
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    | text      = name of that documentary. Yeah, that could be, that could be, where do you stand on cyborgs
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    | text      = getting into the hall? Dan? I look, it's up to the hall. I don't have a strong position on it.
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    | text      = I'm not involved. I'm going to go with interstellar 9999 is predictive programming because that had
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    | text      = deaf punks, great song, harder, better, faster, stronger in it. It must be. Yes, that must be it.
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    | text      = So when we first did our first project Camelot episode, it was about Randy Kramer, super soldier.
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    | text      = Yes. And of course now they're having this conversation. He comes up and would you know,
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    | text      = I don't remember this, but it does seem like he probably did talk about it. He's had magic limbs
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    | text      = replaced. Okay. Sorry. I don't know if that's ever been documented or proven, but he's, you know,
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    | text      = he's had magical limb regrowth or something. I'm not sure. All right. This gets to carry down
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    | text      = another path where we've already had universal soldier predictive program, right? Documentaries,
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    | text      = we get another instance of that. It's just all fucking movies and TV shows. There are a number
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    | text      = of super soldiers out there. Randy Kramer talks about even having that the technology exists to
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    | text      = replace limbs or, or parts of the body that get, uh, just, you know, destroyed in, in a battle.
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    | text      = He says that it's happened to him that he's had certain parts replaced and, and, and so on.
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    | text      = Advanced form of cloning. So you can basically grow an arm back.
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    | text      = Yes. But there's also, uh, I don't know if you've seen the television series Fringe in which the,
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    | text      = this was started back in the time of the Nazis. It has to do with parallel and going over to
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    | text      = parallel L earth where you have a double. All of us have doubles in parallel earth. This is in
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    | text      = essence, you might say in the yin and yang of the being we call earth, that would be the dark side
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    | text      = of earth. And in essence, you have to go to another dimension to cross into that dimension
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    | text      = to access those individuals. But they like in the movie Fringe or the TV show, uh, they're being
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    | text      = brought across to, uh, to, to like the person in this dimension has, um, been close to death or
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    | text      = dying and they will be replaced by one that crosses over. In fact, there's also a, a television
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    | text      = series called Counterpart, which depicts the same thing, uh, in, uh, after, since Fringe.
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    | text      = I'm not sure if you're going to be able to really strengthen your argument that life is like Fringe
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    | text      = by pointing to another TV show. Yeah, yeah, no, it's a lot like the first TV show because you
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    | text      = saw the second TV show doesn't help me really double predictive program. Although I will say
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    | text      = that Fringe is at least like more popular than the universal soldier sequel. So at least you're
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    | text      = playing the right game here. I'm not going to be too mad about it. I liked Fringe. It was great.
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    | text      = I liked really interesting. I never heard of Counterpart Showtime Fringe at least. Yeah. I
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    | text      = think it was a little bit, maybe too ambitious from what I recall, but I, I, it was interesting.
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    | text      = There was a lot of really interesting stuff. Absolutely. It is. It is never well acted
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    | text      = Joshua Jackson. He was showing people. He's still got it. I don't know if he did that,
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    | text      = but it did show people. He's still there. I am not just Dawson's Creek and skull and bones
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    | text      = or the faculty. Which one was it? I can't remember. No, it wasn't the faculty. Yeah,
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    | text      = not even Devin Sawa. They just do not have the creativity necessary to write their own shit.
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    | text      = Well, that's why Carrie Cassidy is a bad, she's a failed screenwriter. She talks about that quite
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    | text      = a bit. Yeah. We're trying to get work in Hollywood. Yeah. She just can't do it because she's not
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    | text      = creative enough to lie her own lies. I, I, I, I'm not sure if that's all that the phenomenon is,
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    | text      = but it is fascinating to me how just this like what I can't get around is like the picking and
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    | text      = choosing. Yeah. Like, okay. Yes. You've taken fringe to be reality. What about, um, that one
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    | text      = Dawson's Creek? What about that one show where there wasn't electricity? Uh, do you know that
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    | text      = one? What about that? Is that real? What is that real? Yeah. The 100 let's just go with that one
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    | text      = lost lost real. Can I pretend lost is real? Yeah. I mean like, okay, there's an island that has
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    | text      = regenerative properties and no one can find it on a map because it's constantly moving and time
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    | text      = travel. Can I do that? I assume so. Why doesn't carry? I don't know. I want to pretend that
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    | text      = Ally McBeal was real, but I just can't live that life. Well, that's, that's the thing. The picking
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    | text      = and choosing. Why, why is it fringe? Yeah. Why? Like it's, it's, it, I don't know because it's
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    | text      = not, and it's not even like it's quality based because it's not like, cause I thought fringe
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    | text      = was good, but we're, we just came from the universal soldier direct to video shit. That's
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    | text      = true. You know, it's quality seems like it should matter. Like I want to good television. Here's
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    | text      = my point that I was trying to get to. I was having a tough time putting my finger on it. Yeah. If I
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    | text      = were to make arguments, probably to Carrie, that lost is real. Sure. She would not go along with
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    | text      = it. Well, maybe she would, but that's a good question. If you were making them to Carrie,
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    | text      = I think she would go along with them. If you were making them against Carrie, I think she would say
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    | text      = that lost is bullshit. Well, right, right. It's like, I just, I don't, I don't understand. I
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    | text      = don't, I don't get it. Now this next clip is probably the reason that I decided to do this
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    | text      = episode because the crux, this, this is where like it gets real. So we're talking about like,
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    | text      = don't use that phrase. It gets real. I'm into this. Okay. So you got this fringe and other show
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    | text      = counterpart. You got this other reality where there's another version of you that you can get
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    | text      = body parts from or whatever. If you can get through the portal or something, I'm not entirely
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    | text      = sure they don't get specific, but there's other ways that these super soldiers can have like
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    | text      = super bodies or something. Right. Put your mic down for this because you're never going to
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    | text      = believe a piece of information that we get told about here. And then I have a whistleblower that
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    | text      = talked about people like Mark Twain and, and others that have been reverse aged. So they
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    | text      = have this reverse aging. And in fact, William Tomkins, we talked about him earlier. He was
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    | text      = doing what he was doing in exchange for hope, hopefully getting for himself and his family,
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    | text      = reverse aging pills that he, that then would allow him to stay alive much longer and go to a younger
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    | text      = age. Generally, from what I understand, they reverse age someone to around to their twenties.
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    | text      = It's younger for women. They're like 23 or something. I was told if I recall correctly,
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    | text      = and then men it's a little bit older, 28 or so. So look, I totally understand in this fictional
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    | text      = reality, why you'd want to reverse age, some important scientist or someone who's doing
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    | text      = secret work behind the scenes that, you know, you want it to continue, but why the fuck would
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    | text      = you reverse age Mark Twain? Because he's brilliant, Dan, have you not read letters from earth?
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    | text      = Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the Americana classics of old Sam Clemons.
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    | text      = One of our great authors. I don't see what the point would be of making him immortal.
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    | text      = I don't get it. Okay. So Mark Twain was important to our country's history because he was a great
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    | text      = writer. He had a sharp wit and he was an engaging public speaker, which are three things he would
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    | text      = not be able to continue doing if you were to have a second lifetime. I don't understand.
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    | text      = I guess he could start writing under an assumed name, but people would be like, Hey man,
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    | text      = you look a lot like Mark Twain. You sound exactly like him. And honestly, your writing
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    | text      = style is identical. Are you Mark Twain? Are you taking reverse aging pills? No, I am not.
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    | text      = I am Samuel Clemons. Oh shit. I made it at fuck. Also Mark Twain died in 1910. So even if he took
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    | text      = reverse aging pills and went back to the age of 28, he would be 138 years old right now.
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    | text      = He would be dead again. Naturally. You have to ask yourself if baby, he took more reverse aging
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    | text      = pills at some point and just kept cycling. But if so, what the fuck did he do in his second
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    | text      = lifetime? I see literally no tangible effects in the world that could rightly be attributed to
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    | text      = Mark Twain in the years since his death. So it seems like if he did live again,
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    | text      = he probably was just pretty low key about it. Maybe just wandering around Missouri.
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    | text      = Yeah, sure. I mean, look, he lived a full, a rich, full life. He's earned a retirement.
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    | text      = I thought of another rich, full retirement. It's complicated. It seems, it seems like maybe not
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    | text      = the best use of this, uh, this technology for a shadowy group to be doing. Yeah. That's probably
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    | text      = no good. That's probably no good. I have a suspicion that this whistleblower of Carrie's
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    | text      = just knew that one of Mark Twain's pithy quotes is quote life would be infinitely happier if we
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    | text      = could only be born at the age of 80 and gradually approach 18, which I guess was then transformed
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    | text      = into him being some kind of reverse aging operation kind of thing. If you, like, if he
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    | text      = wasn't like doing a reverse agent thing, why would he say something like that? Why would he say
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    | text      = something like that? Jordan? He said it himself. He admitted it's in the white papers. I do like
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    | text      = weird random quotes being taken out of context to be like, see, obviously this guy knows the
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    | text      = secret. It's like universal soldier predictive programming, externalizing the method. Why would
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    | text      = he say that if he didn't already have some sort of Benjamin button technology? Oh shit. I referenced
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    | text      = another movie. Oh no, no. Why would he say that if he wasn't like Merlin? Oh shit. That's right.
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    | text      = It's another fake thing. God damn it. So Mark Twain maybe still walks among us and has been
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    | text      = reverse aged with pills. What is he Thomas Pinchot now? Maybe. Yeah. Um, so that makes no sense to
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    | text      = me, but, uh, Carrie has other examples. There are different ways of dealing with a super soldier and
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    | text      = also, uh, keeping a human being alive and bringing them back. So there are X Nazis. Well, not X,
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    | text      = there are Nazis, Werner von Braun, for example, who have been reverse aged and in essence are
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    | text      = young men now. Don't tell me it's Karl Rove. I'm sorry. I'm making a joke. It's a terrible joke.
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    | text      = See, that makes sense. Werner von Braun is who you would say in this not Mark Twain. Absolutely.
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    | text      = Yeah. Werner von Braun is exactly who you would reverse age. He's like a genius rocket scientist
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    | text      = guy. He's really like spooky and evil. I mean, he's literally a Dr. Strange love if you will,
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    | text      = if you will, he's who you would use as your reverse. Why is he the second example after
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    | text      = Mark Twain? Well, you got to try it on somebody first. And if you're going down the list of who's
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    | text      = the first to get de-aging technology that may go wrong, you go with the man, Mark Twain dad. Sure.
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    | text      = Absolutely absurd. Yeah. So they get to talking about interstellar travel and apparently it's
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    | text      = mostly wormholes. Right. Well, that's the only way to get past the whole tricky light speed thing.
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    | text      = Sure. Or the Van Allen radiation belt or whatever. Yeah. You got, you got issues. Apparently there
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    | text      = are spacecrafts, but they're used to transport other spacecrafts through wormhole something.
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    | text      = I'm not entirely sure. It's very convoluted, but there are a bunch of dimensions in the world.
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    | text      = Right. Right. And then there's portals that you can go through or something. Okay.
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    | text      = Carrie is talking about that here a little bit and she reveals a secret power that she has.
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    | text      = Okay. I love a secret power that I find to be unimpressive. What we're talking about is
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    | text      = a sort of an, a path to Ascension, a path to return to source as they call it. And there,
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    | text      = there are hierarchies that one must go through and levels of frequency that you,
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    | text      = you raise your frequency and you're able to go to two other dimensions. And if you've ever gone to
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    | text      = Sedona and you, you go to the portals, if you want to know what a portal is like, go to Sedona,
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    | text      = although they have them all over the world. And in fact, rivers and lakes are natural portals.
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    | text      = So the energy you can feel it. I happen to be an earth sensitive. I can feel these things in my
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    | text      = hands. I could walk around and tell you where on your property there, there might be a portal,
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    | text      = for example. Okay. If your superpower is being able to tell you where a portal might be. Yep.
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    | text      = That is not a definitive power. Nope. Maybe there's one here. There's not. Well, I just
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    | text      = told you there might be one. I didn't say there was. That is a soft power. She is a maybe divining
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    | text      = rod. That is a, that is a reliable tool. Also I've been to Sedona.
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    | text      = I haven't. I haven't. So I don't know. She, I, she could be right. I've been to lakes.
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    | text      = I think she just revealed that at one point she was probably a Scientologist. I don't know.
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    | text      = Maybe that whole source thing that's straight out of L Ron. You don't think so? Not necessarily.
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    | text      = It's all over the place in the paranormal, uh, community. No, no, it's, it, that's very, very,
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    | text      = uh, ubiquitous. I don't think it necessarily comes from him from Hubbard. I wouldn't be surprised if
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    | text      = she was still, look, I'm not going to disagree with you necessarily. Uh, but I, I don't think
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    | text      = that you could use that as proof of it or anything. Fair point. Um, I don't know. I mean,
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    | text      = I think on some level she's just expressing exactly what I feel, but I don't think as portal
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    | text      = related and that is that like nature is great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good. Yeah. You
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    | text      = get a different feeling when you're out, out and about and you don't, you know, you're not around
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    | text      = concrete, you know, like being at a river does have some sort of a, you know, cause you can,
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    | text      = you know, the sunset, if you're out by a river, like all the bugs that start making noises,
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    | text      = it's very atmospheric, natural air. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. There's a, there's a lot to it. It can, it
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    | text      = can, it feels entirely different. And I understand, I think what she's trying to express or what she's
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    | text      = expressing, but in the form of like there's magic portals. Right. Right. Right. I think it's just a
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    | text      = very, uh, uh, the call of the wild is what some people call it. You could call it being earth
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    | text      = sensitive or you could call it being sensitive to the earth, being able to feel the things. Right.
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    | text      = But then you're interpreting that feeling as being portals. Right. Right. That's an issue.
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    | text      = So Carrie just recently talked to a guy though that, uh, he lives on a ranch and, uh, that ranch
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    | text      = is above a military base. A lot of portals. There's an underground military base. Oh,
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    | text      = of course. There's probably a portal involved. I think there is a portal. Good. The military
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    | text      = base is being shared with Ashtar command. That's a bad idea. You can't trust them. Nope.
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    | text      = I just interviewed, re-interviewed, uh, John Edmonds who lives on a, on a ranch that's
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    | text      = located on top of a military base in Arizona. That's also being shared by the Ashtar command,
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    | text      = which is an off planet race. And he has a tremendous number of portals on his property.
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    | text      = Oh yeah. Where beings are always coming through and, uh, and basically disturbing their life in
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    | text      = a multitude of ways. See, I heard that. And I heard a sitcom. I heard a damn sitcom,
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    | text      = a guy just trying to mind his business on a ranch, having a great time. All these aliens
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    | text      = keeps showing up and meddling. It's episodic. You could have a different, uh, different alien
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    | text      = of the week. Yeah. And you aren't even Carrie laughed a little bit because I think she was
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    | text      = thinking she's a writer. The way you described that is there's all these portals coming down
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    | text      = and this guy's ranch. And it's really messing with their life. Like that's the nuisance.
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    | text      = He's having trouble there. They're messing. They're turning the water off. The electricity
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    | text      = goes haywire every time they portal in and out. It's terrible. Oh yeah. And aliens are real.
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    | text      = No big deal. Yeah. I would watch. I don't know if I'd watch that show,
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    | text      = but there was a time in my life when I watched more TV than I would have watched that show.
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    | text      = I'd give it a chance. That sounds a little bit like fringe, right? The show, right? That's your
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    | text      = ticket. So Dan Harmon, we know the answer to this question that Robert's about to ask, uh, Carrie.
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    | text      = And that is that, is there an interstellar war going on? Absolutely. You bet. Let me ask you
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    | text      = this. Is there some kind of intergalactic war going on right now? I mean, I hear about reptilians,
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    | text      = Palladians, you know, I'm just a village idiot living in Oakton, Virginia. Uh, but I find this
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    | text      = fascinating and I find you a very credible, interesting person. So is there some kind of
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    | text      = conflict going on right now and who's winning? Yes. Uh, it's kind of funny to hear you say that.
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    | text      = I mean, even people that follow the Bible, which, uh, does not necessarily tell you the whole truth
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    | text      = and nothing but the truth. I tend to understand that, that we're in a war of worlds. You know,
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    | text      = that, uh, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is followed up by, so help me God.
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    | text      = Left that part off. Um, I, I just like the idea that Robert David Steele is like,
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    | text      = I think that you're a credible and interesting person. After minutes earlier, she said,
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    | text      = Mark Twain has been reverse aged. I'm, I'm enjoying his, uh, his fog horn,
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    | text      = leghorn manner of now I say, I say, now everybody knows you're a brilliant woman and I'm just a
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    | text      = down home comfort lawyer. God. So I was doing Futurama. Uh, yeah. So, uh, you know, Hey,
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    | text      = there's an earth star war going on, but it's really like all of this is not humans. It's all
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    | text      = ET like all wars are. Anytime we see a war on earth, what I've found out after all these years
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    | text      = of investigating is that all of those wars have an ET basis. So these are not just wars between
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    | text      = humans, the way we conventionally think about war. This is, you know, it's very, it's very popular
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    | text      = to think about humans as a warlike species. Actually, that's not true. Humans are not warlike
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    | text      = in the way that these other species are. And we're talking about the negatively based species.
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    | text      = That, I mean, it's, there's so much of this that, that constantly pops up. There's this hiding
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    | text      = behind, uh, attributing things to aliens that you don't want to recognize humans are capable of.
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    | text      = Yeah. It's very weird to me, but. And it also hides, it also hides their fundamental fascination
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    | text      = with war and their desire for, to talk about all of the, the heroism and, and all of that
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    | text      = shit that we, uh, associate with war, uh, without having to feel bad about being one of the primary
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    | text      = drivers of it, I guess. Not her specifically, but you know, war in general. Right. Cause you can have
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    | text      = like a Randy Cramer's, a celebrated murderer of tons of aliens. He's protected the earth for,
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    | text      = for decades. And yeah, right. It's very, it's a very strange, uh, worldview to me by, I don't
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    | text      = know. So Robert David Steele asks if Trump knows about this stuff. Does he know about these aliens?
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    | text      = And I will say that Carrie's response. Interesting. Is it credible? It's credible. Okay. Interesting.
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    | text      = Okay. And credible. My sources say that yes, Trump is very knowledgeable. In fact,
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    | text      = according to Mark Richards, his wife, uh, is used as a her, an alien conduit to a certain race,
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    | text      = which he will not reveal to me which race that is, uh, except to say that it isn't the lion being
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    | text      = beings. And it, I believe it's not the reptilians. I'm going to pause there really quick. Cause
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    | text      = there's, there's more revelations, but I would guess if Mark Richards is not telling her which
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    | text      = race Melania is a conduit for that implies that is not a good race of aliens. I feel like he would
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    | text      = just come out and say it if it was, if it was the Pleiadians or whomever. Yeah. It's gotta be
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    | text      = the mantis beings or the reptilians. Like if it was the Raptors, he would just be like, yeah,
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    | text      = Melania's got a one-to-one hotline to the, uh, the Raptor princess. Everything is cool.
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    | text      = Our president is in touch with our allies in space. It's good. It's gotta be one of the bad
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    | text      = it's the Draco or some shit. She's actually Mako shark rampant. It has to be like a bad alien race.
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    | text      = It has to be, there's no other, like, why wouldn't he tell her which one it was? Yeah. That's a
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    | text      = really good question. All we know is it's not the lion. I didn't know there was a lion alien. Oh,
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    | text      = of course there was a lion alien. What are you talking about? What about the dog traders?
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    | text      = Well, the mercantile dogs, the mercantile dogs.
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    | text      = Right. That sounds like who Trump would be interested in. Dan. He is a businessman. Yeah.
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    | text      = I know that there are mercantile dogs and then there, the feline contestants who are into
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    | text      = archeology. Right. I love, I love days like today. I didn't think that those feline
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    | text      = contestants were, um, uh, lions. Right. Right. I feel like that's slightly different.
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    | text      = I guess that's a good question. When we're talking about feline, uh,
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    | text      = contestants as a whole, does that mean everything in the feline, uh, uh, what phenotype or genus,
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    | text      = you know, like everything from lion all the way down to a little tiny, isn't it the case
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    | text      = that a lot of those species came into being by virtue of like natural pressures that exist on
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    | text      = earth. That's true. That's true. They have common ancestors in the feline family. And you would
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    | text      = assume that there, if there's feline aliens, they wouldn't have had the same pressures that would
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    | text      = lead them to, uh, that's fair. I'm going to go with genetic engineering. They make all of themselves
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    | text      = from the different inspirational series of cats could be, there we go. Point is Melania is probably
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    | text      = in touch with some evil aliens. Yeah, that sounds right. And I'm just going based on what
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    | text      = Carrie is saying. I can't, I cannot stress this enough. The assumption has to be if Mark won't
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    | text      = tell her it can't be good news because he always tells her the specifics. That's always one of his
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    | text      = things is like, there are certain areas where he's like, I'm going to be 100% specific. And
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    | text      = then others where he almost like she writes down that he turned and looked and gave me a
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    | text      = knowing lancer. Yeah, exactly. Like why didn't she ask him what race he was talking about? Right.
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    | text      = Yeah. And his, his, uh, silence speaks volumes. That's what I would say. Anyway, there's more,
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    | text      = there's more news on the geopolitical alien front. Okay. So, uh, this is sort of a component of what
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    | text      = you're talking about. Yes. Putin has been read in, uh, and, uh, and even Putin's clone, uh,
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    | text      = I understand it is said that he's been a clone for a while now.
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    | text      = Apparently Putin's a clone carpet bombing carpet bombing. Why not Putin's clone drop it in there?
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    | text      = Well, and I mean, at the end there, she says, Putin's been a clone for a while now. There is
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    | text      = no Putin anymore, I guess. And is this the clone from the alternate universe that they brought over
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    | text      = or is this like a clone clone? Is this a Nazi clone? See the burner, Bron,
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    | text      = Von Braun make this club. This is the problem with this interview style is that even though,
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    | text      = uh, Robert David steel is on target and focus, right? Not a lot of follow-up questions,
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    | text      = which I would be interested to know exactly what are you saying about Putin? He's the,
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    | text      = is the head of state for one of the largest countries in the world. And you're saying
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    | text      = he's a clone. That's a recipe to get a bogged down interview. Yeah, that's true. So we learned
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    | text      = in that last clip also that there are lay, uh, lion aliens, which is cool. Um, and in this next
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    | text      = clip, we, we find out about another race of aliens that I think actually has come up in the past,
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    | text      = but it's, it's really funny to hear like what, what, when you're called on to give evidence
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    | text      = for these things existing, right? Where do you go? There's also what, what you call the dragon moths
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    | text      = that are, uh, very diabolical airport in Sydney, Australia that has a gigantic, uh, plaque carving
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    | text      = of a dragon moth. And so you have to put two and two together on that one. So there's a plaque in
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    | text      = an airport in Sydney, apparently, uh, that has a dragon moth and therefore diabolical aliens.
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    | text      = Uh, okay. Okay. All right. So, okay. Dragon moths, diabolical. Here's how you prove them.
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    | text      = There's a plaque. Yeah. There's a single plaque in one airport. As far as I know,
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    | text      = yeah. In the world. Put two and two together. Bingo. There aren't even two. There might be,
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    | text      = but we know of one because I have one source of information. I can't even put one together. Yeah.
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    | text      = So, uh, they get off the topic of some of these aliens and, uh, Robert David steel wants to know
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    | text      = about free energy. He wants to kind of end this interview. Don't we all to free energy. Um, and
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    | text      = it turns out, uh, there is free energy has to do with vortexes or something that's trouble. Tesla
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    | text      = is in play, right? Um, why didn't we D H him? He's number one on the list, right? You'd think
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    | text      = D H Tesla. Fuck that guy was a thousand years ahead of his time. He had wireless energy before
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    | text      = anybody. This is incredible. Bring Tesla back. Mark Twain. Okay. He wrote some books. He's
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    | timestamp = 01:04:08.559
    | text      = clever. Use the N word a lot. Um, so apparently we learned, uh, how you can get some free
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    | text      = electricity and put your mic down for this one too. Cause I need you to hear the specifics of
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    | text      = this specifics. I will say one thing about Carrie that you can really count on is that she does not
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    | text      = get bogged down in detail. Not into the specifics. Free energy comes out of the, you know, the, the
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    | text      = energy vacuum, the, the black hole. And by the way, uh, apparently there are black holes in each
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    | text      = of us and in the earth center of the earth, which is more information that I've been getting lately.
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    | text      = So in essence, free energy is all around us. It, it comes, in fact, I've been told by one person,
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    | text      = you can stick us something in the ground and in essence, uh, access at electricity. So there are
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    | text      = lots of different types of, of energy. Okay. So if I understand correctly, someone told Carrie
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    | text      = recently that you can put something in the ground, access electricity, Dan, it turns out that the
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    | text      = black holes were inside us all along. Sure. Sure. Somebody, somebody, a nonspecific person,
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    | text      = somebody told Carrie that you could take a thing, something who knows what that thing is. It could
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    | text      = be anything. You put it in the ground, electricity, access free and go. I really think she should get
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    | text      = a patent on that quick. Somebody needs to tell her to get a patent on that thing. Date the stamp
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    | text      = and mail it to yourself. Yeah. That's the kind of sentence. Like if you're doing an interview,
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    | text      = you just can't let that slide. Somebody told me you put a thing in the ground and you got
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    | text      = free energy. Electricity. What are you talking about? Who told you that? What is this? Anybody
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    | text      = interviewing the president? What are we doing? What are we allowing you to get away with it?
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    | text      = Yeah, this is, this is so apparently we have black holes in us and we poke the ground and you get
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    | text      = electricity. So that's free. Right. Cool. As long as you find the thing though. Oh yeah. That's the
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    | text      = struggle. It's going to take you a lot of energy to find that thing. I think I suspect strong
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    | text      = suspicion. I don't think it's energy neutral. I'll tell you that right now. So also it turns out
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    | text      = Mark Richards has, uh, something he's been telling Carrie about another source of energy. Um, and
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    | text      = this is how the interview comes to an end. Uh, they, they wrap it up. Cause also another thing
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    | text      = too is that Robert David Steele is very clear. Like I'm trying to keep this interview tight.
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    | text      = This is going to be about 35 minutes. We're not going to go like in the same way as sticking to
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    | text      = the business. It's like note. And that's why you don't ask, what's that thing? You poke the ground.
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    | text      = That's another 10 minutes. That's what I'm saying. You're not going to get an answer.
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    | text      = No. What thing is it? Oh, you know, it's something I can't tell you that somebody,
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    | text      = I can't tell you who it was. It was a classified situation. So there's another source of energy.
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    | text      = This is, this is just a silly end to this interview. Uh, Mark Richards talks about the
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    | text      = energy from neutron stars that we are now able to fuel our craft with the BTs did not want us to
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    | text      = have access to that goes beyond free energy. So, um, that's what I would have to say about that.
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    | text      = And I believe that airlines are using it right now for their planes. I believe airlines went
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    | text      = bankrupt and have to use free energy to get their planes off the ground. You know, I'm worried about
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    | text      = radiation sickness. The entire plane loads of people are being quarantined because flu presents
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    | text      = the same way as radiation sickness. We have to stop because I've made a commitment to my audience
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    | text      = that I do 30 minutes, not one hour, uh, interviews stick by that commitment. My friend can't, can't
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    | text      = go long. Can't do a part two. I enjoy the strong assertion that she believes that airline companies
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    | text      = all went bankrupt. And so now have to use free energy, which is from space or something. Now
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    | text      = answer me this, Dan, why wouldn't they have used free energy in the first place? Well,
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    | text      = they have to go bankrupt in order to get access to the free energy because once they go bankrupt,
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    | timestamp = 01:08:11.360
    | text      = then the reptilians have them right where they want them. Right. Right. Right. They become
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    | text      = compromised to the lion alien Raptor Alliance with the mantid. Sure. Um, and by virtue of that now,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:22.960
    | text      = all these aliens can fly for free and that's how they get 200,000 people out of here every day.
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    | text      = That's the whole idea. You know how they have that like curtain that goes up.
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    | text      = It's all fucking mantids up there. Yeah. God damn it. Yeah. You're just sitting in the back. You're
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    | timestamp = 01:08:39.520
    | text      = like, why do they need that curtain? Is it because they don't want to look back at us? A dirty poor
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    | text      = people back here. No, it's because they're it's it's mantid beings. And then, uh, I think of
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    | text      = Mohammed bin, Solomon is there. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. It's a bit strange. So I was curious about
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    | text      = what, uh, uh, steel was saying there at the end about the radiation sickness that he's worried
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    | text      = about. I found it fascinating. I watched another video of his and apparently he believes the
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    | text      = Corona virus situation radiation sickness from free energy. Well, I believe it probably has to
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    | text      = do with five G because I think that's another, that's another popular area of the conspiracy
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    | text      = world that weirdly I haven't heard Alex talk about why we haven't talked about it on the show.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:19.520
    | text      = He's talked about it a little bit. You know, the, the, we have to go to somewhere in Virginia
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    | text      = where there's one. No, no, no, no. He's talked about five G, but not in relation to the Corona
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    | text      = virus. There are some people who have been like, it's all because China has five G. This is all
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    | text      = just that. And they're trying to cover it and say it's a virus. Okay. So Robert David Steele,
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    | text      = I think is a little bit on that tip because I watched another video of his where he was saying
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    | text      = that like these people they're on the planes and they get sick and then you think it's flu,
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    | text      = then you get them off the planes and the fine cause it's radiation sick. Okay. All right. So
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    | text      = that's his theory. All right. I, uh, I don't think that one's valid for a lot of reasons, but I like
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    | text      = that he's trying again. You take things based on context. You can't take any real argument that's
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    | text      = made seriously because you're also discussing Mark Twain de-aging, uh, through pills, perhaps.
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    | text      = Sure. You're, you're, you're, you're talking to the age of 28, by the way. Yes. Yeah. You're
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    | text      = talking about a fringe being real and we can just go and get our doppelganger from another
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    | text      = dimension. Ah, but they're evil. Putin's a clone. Of course he is. Why wouldn't he be? You put a
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    | timestamp = 01:10:26.880
    | text      = thing in the ground to get electricity. Just put a thing in the ground. Just put a thing in there.
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    | text      = This is absurd. I do love it when she just carpet bombs assertions that I've literally never heard
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    | text      = anybody ever even consider as a possibility before. And she just, it's, it's nonstop. This
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    | text      = was a tight half hour interview and there was nothing but gold there. When you only have to
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    | text      = watch a half hour interview and you get Mark Twain, you get thing in the ground. Like it's,
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    | text      = that's, that's a good day in my book. If project Camelot could stay just that.
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    | text      = And of course it can't, you know, nothing, nothing good in this world stays good. No,
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    | timestamp = 01:11:11.199
    | text      = but no, especially not now we can at least look at this new interview and, uh, and see the ways
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    | text      = in which it has those similarities to what, uh, gave us a break in the past. And I'm glad for
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    | text      = that. So thank you, Carrie. Even if we are making fun of this entire, uh, everything about, um,
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    | text      = 100% of it at the very least 20% of it, which is how many people we are missing.
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    | text      = Yes. Oh yeah. I forgot about that too. 20% of the population by aliens.
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    | text      = What I don't understand is like, it's, it seems like it's easier to just believe that the problems
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    | text      = are aliens, you know, wars are aliens and, and it's so hard to stay informed about everything
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    | text      = that's going on and really trace the root causes of behind these problems and solve it. So if
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    | text      = you're choosing to go the easy route, why are you then making it really complicated and miserable
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    | text      = to live inside? Like if we're going on ignorance is bliss. Why is it so miserable to be, to be take
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:16.319
    | text      = the easy route, man? Because it's not miserable. This stuff isn't real. So you're not actually
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    | text      = facing any of the effects of like what the downside of if aliens were really people all over
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    | text      = the 20% of the world, like what she's describing is terrifying. But I don't see her. I don't see,
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    | timestamp = 01:12:34.079
    | text      = she doesn't seem happy to me. No. Like when the whole point of doing this is, is to avoid the bad
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    | text      = feelings of, uh, instead of just instead feeling miserable and helpless in the face of aliens,
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    | text      = stealing 200,000 people that ostensibly you like. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's a real
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    | text      = bummer. Yeah. Hmm. I don't have an answer for that. I don't know. I hate my government doing things
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    | timestamp = 01:12:59.520
    | text      = in my name that I find reprehensible and evil, but I am fine. If Raptors steal 200,000 people,
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    | text      = I'm still friends with them. Come on. It's chocolate. You know, you got to look out at
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:10.239
    | text      = this on a sliding scale sort of thing. Yeah. But at least they haven't abducted 1.5 billion people.
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    | timestamp = 01:13:16.079
    | text      = Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this has been a little bit of a fun break. Uh, we'll be back with another
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    | text      = episode, but it, you know, th th there's a secondary aspect to this too, which is like
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    | timestamp = 01:13:27.039
    | text      = really pointing out that there is less of a wall between the worlds of Alex Jones and project
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    | text      = Camelot than necessarily appears to be the case. Like you have this interview where Carrie is
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    | timestamp = 01:13:38.560
    | text      = saying this stuff about like Mark Twain got de-aged and I know I keep going back to that,
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    | text      = but it's because I love it. It's my favorite thing. Uh, much like the last season, last
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    | timestamp = 01:13:47.199
    | text      = episode of fringe. You are my favorite thing. It was the age. It's my version of Josh Jackson.
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    | text      = All right. Spoiler alert for fringe. I think it's, I think it's past its time. Yeah. If
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    | timestamp = 01:14:00.960
    | text      = you're going to watch it, you're going to watch it. It's too late. I regret nothing.
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    | text      = So you have Carrie saying stuff like that and it is like really out there. And like,
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    | text      = obviously you'd have to be just completely incredulous to not be like, Hey, what are
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    | timestamp = 01:14:16.479
    | text      = you talking about? Right. Show me any kind of evidence of any of the things that you're saying.
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    | text      = And you know, it's silly and you can write it off as like, Oh, these are just people saying
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:25.359
    | text      = they're just talking shit. Yeah. But she's being interviewed by a guy who was frequent guest on
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    | timestamp = 01:14:29.680
    | text      = Alex's show until he said, I believe children are being taken to large spaces. So like it's,
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    | text      = the connection is, it's closer than, uh, it might feel comfortable to recognize. I kind of feel like
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    | text      = the only difference in worldview between Alex and Carrie is taste in movies. Maybe. You know,
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    | text      = like I'm talking, depending on the movies that they want to believe are predictive programming,
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    | timestamp = 01:14:52.960
    | text      = that's where they go. What sort of, are you more into sci-fi? Are you oblivion or are you a
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:59.359
    | text      = universal soldier? Which, which one do you want to go with? I'm talking less about, um, worldviews.
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    | timestamp = 01:15:04.159
    | text      = Yeah. I'm talking more about like, what standards do you apply to what you're putting on? Absolutely.
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    | timestamp = 01:15:09.279
    | text      = Like Alex was perfectly comfortable having Robert David Steele on and like presenting him as an
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    | text      = expert in stuff until he went a little too far. And then he had to be like, he had to be excised
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    | timestamp = 01:15:21.119
    | text      = because everyone was making fun of Alex for believing in Mars bases. And so you gotta,
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    | text      = you gotta take a step back from that. Whereas like it's, it's the same level of vetting that
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    | text      = leads to project Camelot doing an episode with Pete Peterson, where they now in 2017,
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    | timestamp = 01:15:38.960
    | text      = Paul, uh, uh, uh, bill Ryan has to come out and say, we did no due diligence on this interview.
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    | timestamp = 01:15:45.199
    | text      = Like it's the same level of work that's being done by these two things. Just one is political
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    | text      = espionage and one is, um, magic space stuff. And I guess that gets back to what you're saying.
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    | text      = Yeah. The taste in movies. Yeah. Which do you prefer the Manchurian candidate or
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    | timestamp = 01:16:01.920
    | text      = universal shoulder soldier? If you apply that level of just like, I don't give a shit,
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    | timestamp = 01:16:06.640
    | text      = let's do this. Uh, then whatever your taste in movies will dictate, uh, the product that you
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    | timestamp = 01:16:12.880
    | text      = live in a sad world. That's the saddest thing I think I've ever thought. And on that note,
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    | timestamp = 01:16:18.640
    | text      = uh, we'll be back. We, we will, but until then we have a website. We do. It's knowledge fight.com.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:23.680
    | text      = We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight Nat. Go to bed.
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    | timestamp = 01:16:26.720
    | text      = Jordan. You're also on Facebook. We indeed, we are. And if you'd like to download a show,
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    | timestamp = 01:16:30.159
    | text      = please go to iTunes or wherever podcast will have his old download, leave a review, et cetera,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:34.560
    | text      = share, you know, the whole deal. Donate. It'll be great. Yep. We'll be back. But until then,
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    | timestamp = 01:16:38.159
    | text      = uh, I'm Neo I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am Putin's other clone.
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    | timestamp = 01:16:42.960
    | text      = Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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    | timestamp = 01:16:44.960
    | text      = Well, Alex, I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.
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