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    | title         = [[362: There Is No Mermaid]]
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    | episodeNumber = [[362: There Is No Mermaid|362]]
    | length        = 01:55:44
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    | text      = Thanks for holding.
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    | text      = Hello, Alex, I'm a fish fin caller.
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    | text      = I'm a huge fan.
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    | text      = I love your work.
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    | text      = Knowledge Fight.
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    | text      = knowledgefight.com.
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    | text      = I love you.
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    | text      = Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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    | text      = I'm Dan.
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    | text      = I'm Jordan.
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    | text      = We're a couple dudes, like to sit around,
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    | text      = drink novelty beverages, and talk
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    | text      = a little bit about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Indeed, we are, Dan.
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    | text      = Jordan.
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    | text      = Dan.
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    | text      = Jordan.
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    | text      = What was the last Halloween costume you wore unironically
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    | text      = with just pure, I mean, just like pure joy, you know,
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    | text      = not like an adult Halloween party where you've
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    | text      = got like the note.
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    | text      = It's like, I'm just going as the regular guy, you know,
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    | text      = like that kind of thing.
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    | text      = I'm talking like, you know, I dressed up as a Ninja Turtle
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    | text      = and I fucking loved it.
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    | text      = You know what I'm saying?
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    | text      = That kind of shit.
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    | text      = I've probably talked about this in the past,
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    | text      = but I have a problem with over-committing
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    | text      = to things like that.
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    | text      = Like Halloween costumes have always been a problem for me
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    | text      = because I'll just go too far with it.
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    | text      = The big time, there was sort of like the breaking point for me,
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    | text      = was I went as a monk one year, and I shaved a circle
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    | text      = on the top of my head, like I had my hair around the sides.
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    | text      = Right, right, right, right.
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    | text      = You were a Friar Tuck, yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, basically.
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    | text      = And I went around with a jug of Carlo Rossi at parties.
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    | text      = And made people take drinks when they
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    | text      = did things that were against the social order.
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    | text      = Right, OK.
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    | text      = I blessed people who were behaving well.
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    | text      = Naturally.
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    | text      = I really got into the character.
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    | text      = You went a little too far, yeah.
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    | text      = I got super drunk.
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    | text      = And the next morning, I woke up with a terrible hangover.
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    | text      = I walked into the bathroom, and I'm like, oh my god, my head.
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    | text      = It was a mess.
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    | text      = I had to walk to the store to get Gatorade,
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    | text      = and I had to grab a hat.
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    | text      = And that next morning, with nothing, just him walking
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    | text      = and being like, happy Halloween.
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    | text      = Yeah, you know what's up.
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    | text      = You know what happened.
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    | text      = This is the Halloween walk of shame.
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    | text      = Yeah, but that was when I was probably, I don't know,
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    | text      = like early 20s.
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    | text      = I don't really get into that too much.
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    | text      = I don't really care for the Halloween.
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    | text      = Not really a Halloween guy?
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    | text      = Not really.
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    | text      = Any good ones when you were a kid?
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    | text      = You trick or treated, right?
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    | text      = We were super poor.
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    | text      = Like growing up, my parents insisted
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    | text      = we have to make our own costumes,
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    | text      = and we weren't very crafty.
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    | text      = So like, no, there was nothing good.
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    | text      = That was like the only time I got to eat candy
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    | text      = in my entire childhood.
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    | text      = Oh yeah, that's good.
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    | text      = That's whenever we wandered around Halloween
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    | text      = and trick or treated.
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    | text      = The candy is good, but it's just a sheet that you're wearing.
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    | text      = Right, right.
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    | text      = It's all slight variations on what
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    | text      = can you do with cardboard.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = And it turns out we couldn't do that much.
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    | text      = Couldn't do that much.
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    | text      = No, so the memories aren't good, except the candy.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Candy was good.
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    | text      = The candy's the good stuff.
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    | text      = Except those taffies that just come
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    | text      = in like brown and orange wrappers.
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    | text      = Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = Those ones that are mysterious, unlabeled.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = They're like Tootsie Rolls, but you know they're not.
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    | text      = Piles of garbage.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And yeah, there's a lot.
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    | text      = And candy corn sucks.
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    | text      = I don't know why there's like this new effort
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    | text      = to rehab the image of candy corn going on.
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    | text      = People are rehabbing candy corn?
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    | text      = I feel like this year.
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    | text      = Lewis Black is rolling over in his grave right now, dude.
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    | text      = Is he dead?
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    | text      = No, he's not dead.
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    | text      = I feel like there's an effort that I'm seeing online
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = this year more than past years to be like, fuck you,
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    | text      = I like candy corn.
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    | text      = Really?
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    | text      = I like candy corn.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Stop making me feel bad for it.
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    | text      = Man, this era of polarization has gone too far.
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    | text      = I don't like the idea of like, hey, if you like candy corn,
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    | text      = God bless you, but I don't feel like we
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    | text      = need to feel bad for not liking it
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and declaring the objective fact that it stinks.
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    | text      = It's awful.
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    | text      = So that's my position.
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    | text      = I thought that was one thing.
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    | text      = That was the last thing the American people could
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    | text      = really all agree on.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = Guess not.
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's two Americas, candy corn and non-candy corn.
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    | text      = We're eating candy corn to own the libs these days.
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    | text      = I do appreciate, though, that it hasn't yet
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    | text      = extended to attempting to mainstream the pumpkin, candy
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    | text      = corn pumpkin.
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    | text      = Yeah, no, that's never happened.
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    | text      = It's too thick.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No, no, no, that's not going to happen.
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    | text      = You can accept candy corn in a tiny little thing,
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    | text      = but not that big bulbous pumpkin.
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    | text      = Anyway, I don't know too much about dressing up
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = for Halloween anymore, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I don't know anything about either, Dan.
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    | text      = That is correct.
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    | text      = And today is actually a spooky Halloween episode.
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    | text      = That's not a fair way to.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I think all of our episodes are spooky, Dan.
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    | text      = I encountered a thing earlier this week
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    | text      = where I just felt like I was kind of not interested in,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = like, I needed to take a break from Alex Jones.
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    | text      = And so I was thinking about, like, well, we just
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    | text      = embarked on this coast to coast AM thing.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Like, they know, they do a lot of shit
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = about wacky, crazy, paranormal topics.
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    | text      = But then I was like, OK, for every year around Halloween,
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    | text      = they do ghost to ghost.
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    | text      = Well, OK.
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    | text      = Coast to coast, ghost to ghost.
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    | text      = It's right there.
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    | text      = I don't blame them for that.
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    | text      = Right, but a lot of that is just taking
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    | text      = calls from people who have ghosts in their homes and stuff.
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    | text      = And I don't really want to make fun of that.
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    | text      = Because as much as we can focus on George and Ori
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    | text      = and some of this toxic platforming that he does,
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    | text      = look at these dumb callers.
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    | text      = Like, there is a line of, like, what I think
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    | text      = then yeah, we're kind of the assholes.
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    | text      = Critiquing Adam Carolla's politics and some of the stuff
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    | text      = he stands for, possible, maybe not something I'm going to do,
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    | text      = but possible.
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    | text      = But yeah, like, look at this dumb ass caller.
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    | text      = You didn't have to search out a caller.
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    | text      = Yeah, so Coast to Coast to Ghost to Ghost seemed like, nah,
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    | text      = that's a non-starter.
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    | text      = But luckily, Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
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    | text      = But I found something.
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    | text      = I found an option to go into.
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    | text      = I'm pretty excited about it.
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    | text      = And here is an out of context drop from that.
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    | text      = In the case of the Merman, there's
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    | text      = a lot of people who are misunderstanding it.
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    | text      = Oh, in the case of the Merman.
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    | text      = Encyclopedia Brown, on the case of the Merman.
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    | text      = I found something to go over that might have
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    | text      = Merman will not factor heavily into this conversation.
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    | text      = and talk about what we are here to talk about today, Jordan,
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    | text      = we've got to give a shout out to some people who have signed up
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    | text      = and are supporting the show.
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    | text      = Love them.
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    | text      = So first of all, Alex, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you, Alex.
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    | text      = Next, Chris, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Join in the conspiracy.
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    | text      = Next, Chris, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Ah.
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    | text      = It's growing.
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    | text      = It's growing on this Halloween.
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    | text      = Next, Bodhi, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Hell yeah, Bodhi.
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    | text      = Next, Clownshoos.
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    | text      = Thank you so much.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you, Clownshoos.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Thank you, Clownshoos.
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    | text      = And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people
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    | text      = signed up on an elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So Cedric, thank you so much.
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    | text      = And James, thank you so much. You are both wonderful technocrats. I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Crikey mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go
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    | text      = full tilt boogie on this Watson. All right, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that
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    | text      = money off that heroin. Why are you pimped so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare
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    | text      = info war on you. Thank you so much. Cedric and James. Thank you very much. If you're out there
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    | text      = listening, you're thinking, Hey, I'd like, uh, I like this show. I like what these gents do. I'd
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    | text      = like to support them. Uh, you can do that by going to our website, clicking the button that says, uh,
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    | text      = uh, sports show that's on knowledge, fight.com. What's going on. My head is real foggy today.
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    | text      = I don't know what it is. I'm in a haze. We're about to talk about Merman. I can confirm to
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    | text      = you that we're not talking about Merman. Um, but a couple of things real quick before we get going.
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    | text      = I apologize. Uh, there's been a slight, a little bit of sound issues on our last couple of episodes.
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    | text      = We are shifting up, uh, some of the recording technique, uh, working in a new workflow and,
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    | text      = uh, there's some kinks along the way. I apologize. Hopefully this episode sounds up to our regular
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    | text      = standards. Uh, and we're working on it. Uh, we appreciate your patience and a special shout out
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    | text      = to, uh, Zach who sent us a, it might be Alex's intelligence source. Oh man. He's double crossing
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    | text      = Alex, but, uh, sent us a package with a couple of shirts of a band that he found out about called
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    | text      = the titty baby. Thank you very much. Yeah. Uh, we appreciate it. I have, uh, I'm going to make it
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    | text      = one of my gym shirts. So people can look at me weird as I'm just getting swole titty, baby titty
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    | text      = baby on my chest. There are not babies on each titty, unfortunately. No, but I do also have a
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    | text      = nice sticker, which I've put up here in the studio. So thank you very much, Zach. We appreciate it.
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    | text      = Yes. So Jordan, today, what we're doing is we are going over an episode of, uh, Kevin Moore's show.
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    | text      = Okay. So Kevin Moore, for those of you who have not kept up with the entire project Camelot saga
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    | text      = is a gentleman who believes he can channel intelligences. Yes. Maybe he can maybe aliens,
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    | text      = maybe other dimensional beings who knows he does not have to do a fake voice. He absolutely doesn't
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    | text      = have to do a fake voice because they have confidence in him. Yes. Definitely not. Cause he
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    | text      = has confidence in himself. He also runs a psychic hotline for an exorbitant price. Probably. I'm not
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    | text      = sure. I think each person has a different rate. Okay. He runs a psychic hotline and he has decided
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    | text      = that Carrie Cassidy over a project Camelot and Mark Richards are running a scam. Right.
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    | text      = And so he is in the process of putting out a documentary about how Mark Richards is a murderer
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    | text      = and he has not hung out with Raptor aliens. Right. And, uh, this is all very delightful.
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    | text      = Gary Cassidy is furious at him and has decided he's a part of the gay mafia and mortal enemies
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    | text      = and probably involved with the Illuminati on some level to discredit Mark Richards because he is
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    | text      = friends with space, uh, Raptors and, uh, they're trying to help humanity against the Illuminati.
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    | text      = It's all very complicated. Yeah. Anyway, I, I know that we were shifting away from project
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    | text      = Camelot stuff, uh, but I can't not be intrigued by this mystery that's surrounding it. And one
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    | text      = of the big things that I find mysterious is why is Kevin Moore doing this? That is a very good
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    | text      = question. We talked about it. It's supposed to be money. It's gotta be money, but I don't understand
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    | text      = why he would get any money out of this or how I'm not entirely sure either, but he's positioning
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    | text      = himself in such a way as to be like a critical voice. Like I am within this paranormal community
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    | text      = and I'm offended by, uh, these charlatans like Carrie Cassidy and Mark Richards. They make us
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    | text      = look bad. And that is what the voices that I am channeling right now are telling me and you.
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    | text      = Right. So I feel like I want to understand a little bit better. Um, this guy who's trying to
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    | text      = like, can we actually take that as the, his motivation that he wants to be a thorough
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    | text      = gatekeeper. Who's able to say like, Hey, I'm a trusted voice. I'm going to say, this is cool.
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    | text      = Gotcha. So I, you know, I, I looked around a little bit. He's going to be a space bouncer
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    | text      = and you know what, because it's honestly because my algorithms are all completely fucked up,
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    | text      = uh, with my YouTube. I got suggested a video that he did about time travelers.
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    | text      = Of course you did. Of course you did. I figured like he did do some stuff about ghosts and like
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    | text      = channeling dead relatives of course. Just like this kind of feels creepy. Yeah. Yeah. Like
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    | text      = that's not going to be fun to talk about. It's going to be gross time travelers. Possibly.
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    | text      = And now are any of these fucking time travelers Merman.
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    | text      = God damn it. No. All right. Merman will be mentioned, uh, in passing. Okay, good. So
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    | text      = here's the introduction that Kevin Moore has for this. He's talking to a guy who runs a website,
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    | text      = or I guess it's a YouTube channel called apex TV. And he is on video and he is just almost
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    | text      = completely obscured facially on purpose. Yes. Okay. So it's like protectors. Gotcha. Gotcha.
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    | text      = So here's, uh, uh, Kevin's introduction. Hi guys. And welcome to another edition of the Kevin Moore
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    | text      = show. Now today's show is quite interesting. Actually. Um, I've got the creator and producer
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    | text      = of the apex TV channel from YouTube coming on. Uh, this YouTube channel produces, uh,
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    | text      = interviews that you probably won't find anywhere else. And they've got in the direction of
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    | text      = interviewing whistleblowers in time travel. So they've been interviewing time travelers
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    | text      = now they've, they've been known internationally recently because, uh, some of their, uh, interviews
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    | text      = made it onto news channels throughout the world. And they contacted me, they asked me for an
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    | text      = interview and I was only just too happy to interview them as well because I do actually
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    | text      = enjoy what they do. So travel through time on this one. I do appreciate that caveat there.
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    | text      = You got to make up your own mind on this one. Um, if I'm going to be completely clear with you,
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    | text      = Jordan, I think this episode is a little bit beneath us. Okay. There's really nothing
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    | text      = complicated going on. Nothing too in depth. There's no real like lore to sort out or anything.
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    | text      = Right. Right. Right. The subject at the heart of this episode, Dan, we're dealing with time
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    | text      = travel. So I believe the answer to that is yet. There is no Laura yet. I have bad news. Oh no.
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    | text      = So the subject at the heart of this episode is this YouTube channel called apex TV.
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    | text      = The channels run by an anonymous guy who appears on camera, wearing a hat, big sunglasses and
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    | text      = headphones with his head, mostly behind a big microphone. They mostly post videos about people
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    | text      = who claim that they're time travelers. And I want to make one thing super clear right off the bat.
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    | text      = I'm not mad at anyone for engaging in online immersive fiction. I know a lot of people really
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    | text      = enjoy the titillation of stuff like that. You know, the clearly fake stories presented as truth.
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    | text      = And I don't necessarily believe that a lot of people who take in this kind of entertainment
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    | text      = actually believe the things that they're watching. Right. Just kind of fun. Like, yeah,
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    | text      = it's not my thing, but I'm not going to spend a lot of my energy judging someone for liking that
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    | text      = kind of entertainment. And as an extension of that, I'm not going to spend too much of my time
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    | text      = critiquing the person who creates that kind of entertainment themselves to the extent that this
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    | text      = is just a YouTube channel that lets people send them videos where they pretend to be time travels
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    | text      = travelers, which they then post and make money off of. I'm not going to make too big a deal out of
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    | text      = that. I'm not going to get all like self-righteous about that. Yeah. I'm going to go with this one's
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    | text      = fun until you tell me that there's some secret racial animus beneath it. I don't know. I don't
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    | text      = know if that's the case, but there is a difference though, because between that kind of thing and,
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    | text      = you know, like online immersive fiction and a hoax, I'm not quite sure exactly what the
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    | text      = difference is, but it's something I want to explore over the course of this episode.
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    | text      = The only reason I'm even doing this episode at all is because like I said, I needed a break from
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    | text      = Alex and my YouTube shit is fucked up. And it accidentally revealed this episode here that
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    | text      = I'm like, Kevin Moore is talking to time travel guys. I got to listen to this. So I did. And here
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    | text      = we are. Okay. It's completely fucked up. And I kind of want to keep these characters in mind
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    | text      = because eventually he's got to put out that documentary about Mark Richards. And I feel
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    | text      = like that will be the, all right. I feel like that will be the, what is it? The third act of our
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    | text      = project Camelot play where Carrie ends up suing him or something like that. It turns into a real
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    | text      = circus. I just, my two cents. I don't think he's ever going to actually release the documentary.
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    | text      = If he's smart, he probably will. Some of those like trailers that he has, it's clear he is
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    | text      = getting interviews with a lot of people. It'd be a lot of work to not actually put it out,
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    | text      = but we'll see. Anyway, Apex TV started out with your standard fare of paranormal clickbait videos
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    | text      = with headlines like 10 haunted dolls caught on tape. Okay. I like it. It wasn't a really
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    | text      = successful enterprise since there's a lot of competition in the disappointing videos market.
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    | text      = Then in September, 2016, someone sent Apex TV an email claiming to be a time traveler from 2126.
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    | text      = This guy agreed to film himself talking about time travel, Apex TV posted it and over 1.5
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    | text      = million people have watched that video ever since really can't be true. It's crazy. I really don't
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    | text      = like that. I want to go back to 10 fucking haunted dolls that are real. Give me listicles of lies,
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    | text      = Danny. Sure. Then they claimed they got contacted by another time traveler who told them that he
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    | text      = came home one day to find that his kitchen sink had flooded. That's a great origin story. He tried
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    | text      = to fix it. Quote, I had to crawl inside the cabinet and as I did so, I discovered that it just
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    | text      = continued. So I kept on crawling further and further into the cabinet. At the end of the
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    | text      = tunnel, I saw a light. And when I got there, I realized I was in the future. Okay. All right.
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    | text      = Now that I'm cool. It's a being John Malkovich situation. I love that. So this guy claimed that
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    | text      = he traveled to 2042 where he'd met the 72 year old version of himself. He proved this with a
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    | text      = video he shot with his older self. Sorry. Sorry. If you watch the video, they both seem to be taking
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    | text      = this whole thing in stride. Just put their arms around each other, smiling, like not freaking out
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    | text      = at all about time ripples. Well, one of them knew he was going to be there eventually. So the other
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    | text      = one is fine with it. It's a good point. I guess he would have to that explains their attitude.
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    | text      = Oh, Hey me. I met you a while back. So they both show that they have the same tattoo on their
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    | text      = forearm, but honestly that makes me believe this even less. This dude is supposed to be 40 years
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    | text      = older and his tattoo looks just as fresh as the one on his younger self. Also, it looks slightly
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    | text      = bigger in size and the positioning on the arm doesn't look identical, but who knows that could
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    | text      = just be shoddy camera angles. Looks like you just solved the case of the Merman. I didn't need to.
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    | text      = Cause in reality, the video of this guy whose name is Hakan Norquist, uh, it was actually a
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    | text      = viral marketing campaign created to promote the pension plans sold by the Swedish insurance company
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    | text      = AMF. Why is it that pension plans are doing better commercials than anything that we've got going on
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    | text      = here? As I understand it, the advertising campaign was meant to be like, you can feel secure about
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    | text      = your older self, that kind of thing. It all makes perfect sense. The moment you describe it as an
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    | text      = ad, I'm like, Oh yeah, no, I got it all now. Yeah. So it was passed off as a time traveler by
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    | text      = these guys over at apex TV. So funny. And, but it didn't matter, you know, that it's all clearly
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    | text      = like bullshit ended up getting like 2.5 million views on YouTube. Everybody wins except I guess
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    | text      = the actor, he probably didn't get residual from the YouTube monetization. Yeah. I don't know,
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    | text      = but I mean, it really worked as a viral to the extent that anyone knows that it was a viral
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    | text      = campaign. It might, it might not have had the follow through that you need to get people to
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    | text      = buy Swedish insurance. I don't think a lot of apex TV viewers are, are also in the Swedish
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    | text      = insurance markets, but whatever the case, you've got these two instances where we're like, you
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    | text      = know, you were making these listicles and it's doing whatever traffic it's doing and you've got
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    | text      = one time traveler, 1 million plus views, Swedish insurance commercial presented as time traveler,
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    | text      = 2.5 million views. That's called finding a fucking lane. Time travel is what we do.
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    | text      = So from there, the channel has just put out tons of videos featuring people who are claiming to
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    | text      = be time travelers. Many of their stories are contradictory, but that's okay because apex TV
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    | text      = wants you to decide whether or not these people should be believed. It's the standard paranormal
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    | text      = conspiracy outlet line. I'm just passing along the information you get to choose to believe it
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    | text      = or not. And I think that sort of editorial policy is sloppy and idiotic, but whatever the world has
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    | text      = room for sloppy idiots. As long as they're not actively creating this content, then pretending
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    | text      = they're just passing it along. It's all just kind of in good fun. It's Ripley's believe it or not,
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    | text      = except for YouTube. I get it. Yeah. But really it's embarrassing for Kevin Moore to be
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    | text      = interviewing this guy and not taking a more critical stance than we will see from him by
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    | text      = the time that they have their interview. It's been years since it came out that the person apex TV
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    | text      = was suggesting was a real time traveler was just an insurance commercial. If Kevin's trying to
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    | text      = rebrand himself as the guy who calls out frauds in the community, like Mark Richards is a good
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    | text      = place to work that muscle a little bit. Yeah. This would be a real prime opportunity.
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    | text      = Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just, I mean, here's, here's your quickest and dirtiest way of figuring out
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    | text      = that this isn't real. Um, the time traveler is giving an interview to you. So he is not actually
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    | text      = a time traveler. Well, it's very simple. This guy who's talking to Kevin isn't a time traveler
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    | text      = himself. Oh, okay. I apologize. He's the guy who talks to all the time travel second stage
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    | text      = time traveler situation. Well, now that I know it's hearsay, then we're fine. Totally. Of course,
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    | text      = this makes sense. Yeah. So you might ask yourself, how did this interview come about? How did, uh,
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    | text      = Kevin get hooked up with the guy who talks to time travelers? Facebook message? Probably at some
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    | text      = point during this process. Yeah. Well, thank you for contacting me when you did. Um, I really
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    | text      = appreciate that. Um, that was a bit out of the blue. I tell you what, what was the weird thing
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    | text      = about that is I had just been looking at your channel a few days ago before that.
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    | text      = Yeah. I was actually going through the people who were subscribed to my channel sorting by the most
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    | text      = popular and you were just only a couple down. So I'm just, and I went onto your channel and I saw
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    | text      = you have a bunch of interviews with people that, um, I'm really into and I'm really into the
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    | text      = subjects that, uh, the videos that you make. So I thought, Hey, I mean, maybe he'd be interested
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    | text      = in having me as a guest on the show and it looks like a cool show. So I'm glad to be on.
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    | text      = This was the first indication to me that something might be up here.
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    | text      = You know, I was looking through the people who are subscribed to my channel and you were, you know,
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    | text      = up there in the most popular. So I thought I'd reach out and that's bananas. Yeah. That kind of
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    | text      = gives me a sense of like, Oh, this is, this seems to be driven by publicity. This seems to be like
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    | text      = first indication of like crass promotional concerns. And that's like minute one of the
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    | text      = interview. Yeah. Yeah. That one's trouble. It's almost being presented as like, you know,
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    | text      = we're running the same circles, but it's not quite because he is still saying that I was looking at
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    | text      = the most popular of my subscribers. You got it. So that, that was kind of, I mean, there's a
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    | text      = certain refreshing candor to it. Sure. Or he's like, yeah, putting your, putting your nuts on
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    | text      = the table. This is what I do for the world to see is what I got for you. I don't know what to tell
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    | text      = you. I hobnob with people who know the fucking secrets of space and time. And I'm also going
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    | text      = through my high subscriber counts to see who I like. Yeah. That was a little bit of a troubling,
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    | text      = uh, thing. So, um, and also troubling that, uh, Kevin is subscribed to knowing that this is all
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    | text      = like re it's for children. I watched a couple of their videos and I'm like, what is this bullshit?
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    | text      = That's why I'm saying this is kind of beneath us. It's like, it does not take any critical
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    | text      = thinking skills to deconstruct what this is. Mostly interested in the fact that Kevin Moore
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    | text      = is treating this in any way. Like it deserves to be talked about in a serious way. The more
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    | text      = I find out about Kevin Moore, the more I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? What is your game?
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    | text      = I have your fucking game. I have a couple of theories and one of them is just, he's bad at
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    | text      = this. He's just kind of dumb. That's an underlying theory that I think, uh, it would be hard to talk
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    | text      = me out of. Um, but then there's a second theory that I have about like why he's against Carrie.
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    | text      = I, I, I, I'm not sure you can't prove it, but it's, I'm working on it and it's developing and
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    | text      = we'll get to that probably a couple episodes down the line if this investigation continues.
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    | text      = Um, but, uh, one of the things is like, like I said, I'm concerned primarily with the fact
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    | text      = that Kevin is talking to this dude and take treating it seriously. And I think one of the
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    | text      = things, uh, in this next clip, I think we're going to see one of the reasons why, uh, he's
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    | text      = behaving that way. Now, this is the kind of weirdest interview I've done. And that's kind
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    | text      = of cool because I've, I think out of all my interviews today, right, this is probably
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    | text      = going to be the most fun one, even though it stresses me outright to have no questions,
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    | text      = but it's still kind of, I know what you mean. I've, yeah, I've done a lot of interviews where
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    | text      = I don't have many questions prepared and, but yeah, I got to say that this interview is not
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    | text      = starting off promising. Kevin just outright said that he hasn't prepared for this interview. He
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    | text      = has no questions already, which I find troubling. This is where the whole thing becomes really
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    | text      = interesting to me. Cause like on the one hand, this apex TV is never something I want to cover.
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    | text      = It's really just amateurish clickbait, bullshit targeted at idiots and children,
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    | text      = which I'm not particularly interested in. I feel like it would largely be a waste of time to
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    | text      = critique it. And, uh, in the same way, I don't have time to tell you about how that link for
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    | text      = that one super food that'll save your life is not on the up and up. Dude, I've got this one
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    | text      = weird trick for you that will do. I don't even know how many things at this point. That's not
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    | text      = a good use of time. That's just frivolous bullshit. But Kevin Moore pretends to be a journalist.
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    | text      = He's trying to establish his brand as this gatekeeper, like a trusted voice to guide you
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    | text      = through the good and the bad of the space and paranormal weirdo world. He clearly has interest
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    | text      = in calling people out who he feels are giving the community a bad name. So you'd expect you'd have
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    | text      = that more broadly speaking than just singularly applied to Carrie and Mark. Yeah, it would,
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    | text      = it would make sense unless there was something personal unless, Oh shit. Is Mark actually his
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    | text      = real dad? No, I don't. Sure. I can't prove it, but no. So like if he's trying to present himself,
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    | text      = like we talked about, like as like some sort of a gatekeeper, you'd think you'd apply this
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    | text      = perspective more broadly as opposed to like the singular focus. Like if he wants to get any
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    | text      = mileage out of the perception that he takes this seriously and resents people who are out there
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    | text      = scamming people, you know, making the serious researchers look bad. He takes on certain
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    | text      = responsibilities, namely that he should be trying case in point. He's starting this episode out,
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    | text      = framing it as if apex TV is talking to time traveling whistleblowers, which is meant to
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    | text      = lend credibility to their videos. If he'd done any preparation, he could ask about how exactly
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    | text      = these people ended up promoting a viral insurance ad as if it was a time travel whistleblower.
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    | text      = That would be a good place to start. I feel like that's the first question that needs to be
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    | text      = answered before you can even proceed with the interview. At least it would be if Kevin were
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    | text      = an interviewer who was actually interested in upholding certain standards in the paranormal
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    | text      = world, which it appears that he's not. So anyway, I don't know. This is bad. When you start off with
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    | text      = like, I don't have any questions for you guy who talks to time travelers, how could you not have
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    | text      = questions? I have so many questions. What's even better is that he commiserates along with him.
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    | text      = He's like, yeah, I don't have questions for interviews all the time too. We are both bad
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    | text      = at our jobs. Let's do it. Legitimately, let's say out of the blue, I get a big bong message
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    | text      = that comes up on my screen. And it's like, hey, I talked to time travelers. I will allow you to
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    | text      = interview me in 10 minutes. I would still have questions. There's no amount of immediacy that
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    | text      = the interview could come that I wouldn't have some sort of like, all right, I'm gonna gather my
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    | text      = thoughts really quick right now. How do you time travel? Right. Can't answer that one. All right,
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    | text      = next. Why do you time travel again? He's not talking to the time traveler, but you know,
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    | text      = you still could ask those questions of like, you clearly have asked those questions. You
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    | text      = fucking better have. Yeah. Although on the other hand, you just told me that a lot of the time you
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    | text      = don't have any questions. So what's the best insurance in Sweden? AMF. All right. I don't
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    | text      = know. We'll know in 40 years though. So, um, the questions that we do get are at the beginning of
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    | text      = this are like, Hey, why are you hiding behind that microphone? Well, that's a good one. So
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    | text      = why are you nameless to begin with? Oh, well, I don't want to give out any personal information
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    | text      = as of right now, cause I've interviewed a lot of people who, uh, who've expressed concerns for
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    | text      = their security. And I, I think those by, uh, distributing their messages, if they're telling
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    | text      = the truth, they could, um, that, uh, concern for their security could translate over into me. Um,
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    | text      = and, and the team here at apex TV. So it doesn't sound right. We want to, that's, that's the reason
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    | text      = we've chosen to stay anonymous as of right now. Okay. Another possibility is, you know,
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    | text      = you're scamming people, right? Right. That could be, uh, you don't want people to blow back from
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    | timestamp = 00:30:18.019
    | text      = that. That's another possibility. I mean, another reason could be he works at home Depot and he
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    | text      = would prefer not to be fired from home Depot. Yeah. There's a lot of reasons. A lot of people
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    | text      = use anonymity when they're around online. I don't care. I didn't, uh, do too much looking into
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    | text      = trying to figure out who this person is. Cause I'll respect their anonymity to the extent that
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    | text      = they are. I don't think that there's anything that I can tell that they're up to that elevates past
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    | text      = the level of like, I don't know, fucking around internet nonsense. I think that, uh, of course
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    | text      = you would like in, in that line of work, it's just a good idea to say you have to be anonymous.
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    | text      = Yeah. Just throw it out there. Just for fun. In some ways, whenever you're engaged in this
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    | text      = sort of like LARP or whatever it, you have to, it's by default, you say you need to be anonymous
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    | text      = for protection for sure. Cause if you don't, it almost raises too many questions. You should be,
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    | text      = have to be anonymous if you're saying these things. That's fair. Otherwise you have to pull
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    | text      = the Mark Richards is like, no, I was off planet, but they're giving you a different story and they
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    | text      = don't care. I've been burned. They know I'm crazy. So it's fine. Yeah. Right. So, uh, in this next
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    | text      = clip, we get to a discussion of apex TVs, greatest work. They're, uh, they're really, they're the
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    | text      = Swedish. What put that? No, that was big. But what really put them on the map was this one
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    | text      = time traveler that they talked to. Okay. Um, and, uh, it was a younger gentleman and, uh,
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    | text      = it ended up getting them a bunch of mainstream, uh, uh, coverage. Cool. Um, maybe not quite,
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    | text      = you know, CNN, uh, but still like some foreign news outlets. Yeah. All right. Uh, I saw recently
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    | text      = you got it. You was on talk shows all over the world. Uh, in some cases it was one Australia
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = that was, he was over here in the UK on, on the magazines, uh, newspapers. Um, that was pretty
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    | text      = impressive. Yeah. I was surprised that the, uh, the reception of one of those interviews we did
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    | text      = with a man named Noah who claimed to be a time traveler from the year 2030. And it was actually
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    | text      = him that went on a lot of those talk shows and everything I did. I did go on a couple, but, uh,
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    | text      = um, it's, it's amazing the reach into the mainstream news that this has gotten because,
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    | text      = um, the ironic thing is that the people we've interviewed say they've tried to contact the
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    | text      = mainstream news and they haven't, uh, been receptive to them and they haven't taken up
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    | text      = their stories. And then by us taking up their stories and it actually reaches the mainstream
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    | text      = news. That's a, um, really surprised me. Um, and it really gave me hope. The dirty mainstream news
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    | text      = and they're covering up. Hmm. Yeah. This is just another attack on the news. Yeah. Yeah. Fake news.
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    | text      = They won't talk about my time travel. Also point of order. 2030 is a bad year to choose. That is
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    | timestamp = 00:33:05.299
    | text      = way too soon. Oh yeah. That is only like 10 years away. You can't really embellish a bunch of stuff
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    | text      = if you choose 2030 I would have gone with a different year if I was him. What year would
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    | text      = you choose for a time travel? I don't know. 7582. 7582. Yeah. Then I could just make up everything.
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    | text      = Right. It's so far in the future that like, like how we'll, I'll just make, I don't, we don't even
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    | text      = breathe anymore. Prove me wrong. We'll be, we'll evolve out of breathing because the atmosphere
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    | text      = will be destroyed. Then why do you look like you do right now? Well, because we also have technology
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    | text      = to revert ourselves back. We could de-evolve. This is airtight. Yup. So one of Apex TV's biggest claim
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    | text      = to fame, uh, was their work that they did with a person named Noah, who was said to be, like you
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:48.339
    | text      = said, a time traveler from the year 2030. Sure. Got a message for mankind. Noah had been recruited
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    | text      = into a time travel program in 2025, where his job would be to go back in time to help compile
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    | text      = a compendium of all history. So Noah traveled back to our time, which makes almost no sense.
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    | text      = Since, uh, you know, 2017, the time that he showed up in wouldn't be a mysterious time to the people
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    | text      = in 2030. You'd think they'd be more interested in figuring out what was going on in ancient times
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    | text      = or checking out that Jesus character or something like that. You know, you could make a good argument
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    | text      = that the 2016 election may be historically relevant for future civilizations, but I would
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    | text      = suggest that they will not be wanting for information about it. That's probably true.
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    | text      = It's been pretty well documented, the things that are happening in the present day. But maybe what
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    | text      = happened was they lost the internet and gained time travel. It was a one-to-one. I don't know
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    | text      = if you know this, there's still a lot of books being published. Ah, not time travel, but I don't
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    | text      = know. Still a lot of people chiseling things in stone. That was when Wikipedia first came to
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    | text      = a sentience. Uh, sure. So anyway, Noah came back to our time, but ended up getting fired from his
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    | text      = job with this future time travel organization after he got into a bar fight in South America.
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    | text      = This trapped Noah in the present day, which was his past. So he had to create a new persona and
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    | text      = try and do the best he could. If you consider for one second, the story that's being told here,
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    | text      = you have to pause and ask some serious followups. The first is what kind of secret time travel
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    | text      = program is just going to recruit someone who will then know all their secrets and fire them
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    | text      = for something as trivial as getting into a bar fight. You're just going to cut them loose in the
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    | text      = past. Just throw them off in the past. I used to work at a movie theater and one of my coworkers
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    | text      = showed up for a shift with a black eye and a big cut bragging about getting into a bar fight the
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    | text      = night before. And I didn't even take it, tell him to take the day off. It seems unlikely that a
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    | text      = time travel program would consider this a termination worthy as an offense. I mean,
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    | text      = you can't have this kind of moral behavior reflect poorly back on the time travel,
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    | text      = but even if that's the case, why strand the dude who knows all your secrets in the past,
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    | text      = but you can't control it. Then any half decent secret time travel outfit is going to kill this
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    | text      = guy or at very least bring him back to 2030 and lock him up there or lock him up here. Find a guy
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    | text      = who can, it makes you wonder how much time travel detritus is left behind by these people. So
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    | timestamp = 00:36:10.900
    | text      = anyway, they're littering time garbage. If I were the person doing an interview with this guy,
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    | text      = this would be a hole in the story that I would really need a good explanation for. It would
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    | text      = bother me. Yeah. So Noah had some fun stories to tell about what life was like in 2030. All right.
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    | text      = For one, he informed the world that MLK, uh, junior Martin Luther King, junior, uh,
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    | text      = his granddaughter Yolanda Renee King will become president in that year. That's fun. One problem
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    | text      = is that Yolanda was born in 2008. So that would make her 21 years old in 2030, 21 years old to
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    | text      = run for president. Well, it's lower than the minimum age for someone to become president.
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    | text      = As we understand now, right? There we go. See Noah explained that by that point,
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    | text      = a law will be passed that allows younger people to be president, but he doesn't seem to understand
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    | text      = that this would require a full on amendment since the presidential age limit is from article two,
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    | text      = section one of the constitution. I feel like if we get to the point where two thirds of the house
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    | text      = and Senate pass an amendment, lowering the age required to be president, and then three quarters
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    | text      = of the States ratify it. I think the fact that 21 year olds could be president is not the headline.
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    | timestamp = 00:37:16.739
    | text      = The big story here would have to be the massive political realignment that would have to happen
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    | text      = in the next 10 years to get us to the point where these stuffy ass Washington political class
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    | text      = are trying to get youth into the white house. Headline 2025. What the fuck's going on?
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    | timestamp = 00:37:34.579
    | text      = Like really from a political science perspective, what could bring that about? Like really think
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    | text      = about it. One possibility would be that we see a trend of high levels. We already are seeing this
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    | text      = and it would have to continue the high levels of political engagement in the youth. For sure.
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    | text      = It would have to continue to the point where they become the only political relevant voting block
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    | text      = in the country. As more and more people control the vote, they could vote in younger senators
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    | text      = and representatives who would be then inclined to push for that amendment, I guess. But this
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    | text      = younger voting block wouldn't be single issue voters just based on lowering the age you have
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    | timestamp = 00:38:10.179
    | text      = to be to run for president. There would be ripple effects. Like polling shows that the youth are
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    | text      = pretty overwhelmingly in favor of some pretty left positions, particularly ones related to civil
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    | text      = rights issues and climate change. If they fix their wills to the point where they got that kind
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    | text      = of constitutional amendment passed, you have to assume that their presence would be felt in so
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    | text      = many other places. Like this amendment would be a side note to the bigger news that fossil fuels
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    | timestamp = 00:38:34.340
    | text      = had been outlawed, right? I mean, I feel like it would be a side note to the bigger news that
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    | timestamp = 00:38:39.940
    | text      = everyone over 40 died. See, that's the other consideration. That's the only other possibility,
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    | timestamp = 00:38:44.260
    | text      = right? There had to have been an apocalypse or a plague that strikes some sort of new illness
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    | text      = strikes, but it only affects the older population. Right. And thus the, you know,
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    | timestamp = 00:38:54.099
    | text      = everyone's got to grow up real fast. Right, right, right. If there's nobody over the age of 35,
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    | text      = there can be no president, Dan. Right. Something like that is possible. But again, in that case,
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    | text      = the amendment is not news. So he says that Yolanda King is president in 2030 and he says that she's
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    | text      = elected at the age of 21. Okay. There's another problem here. And that is that 2030 is not a
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    | timestamp = 00:39:16.739
    | text      = presidential election year. Yes, you're right. Of course. He's a little wishy washy about her
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    | text      = actually being elected in 2030, but he does say that she's elected at 21, which she would be in
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    | text      = 2030. Right. If she was elected in 2028, she would be 19 at that point. None of this makes any sense
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    | text      = and is honestly completely disqualifying. Anybody who would consider this shit for a second is an
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    | timestamp = 00:39:41.219
    | text      = idiot or they're running a con. Right. One of the two. Right. So this is, this is the sort of
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    | text      = work that apex TV is doing. Uh, clearly not good stuff. Uh, otherwise known as the Lord. And again,
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    | text      = who cares? They're having fun. Right. Right. To the best of our knowledge, they're having fun.
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    | text      = I'm not going to be a grumpy uncle Dan over here being like you internet kids. No, I got to go on
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    | text      = TV all around the world. How great is that? It's clearly part of some corner of the internet that
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    | text      = I'm not a part of. I don't fully understand. So I'm not going to stake too much of, uh, my effort
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    | text      = on being like shaking my fist. But at the same time, if you look at it, it is still like a guy
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    | text      = trying to present himself as a, like we're, you know, you could decide whether this is real or
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    | timestamp = 00:40:26.900
    | text      = not. Well, why don't you help people decide a little bit by asking the fucking question
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    | text      = anyway. Um, he also know a predicted that multiple U S cities would be completely destroyed by snow
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    | text      = storms in February, 2019, which I don't think happened. I'm pretty sure. What year is it now?
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    | text      = 2019. Ooh, that's trouble. That's uh, that's not going well. So he revealed this information in
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    | text      = a video where he was holding a piece of paper purporting to be a page from a book that lays
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    | text      = out our future history. This page is labeled 2019 to 2020 and it just has six entries on it,
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    | text      = which it seems boy, this is apocalypse written all over it. It seems everything is gone. It
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    | text      = seems a little minimalistic. It's just a crumpled up piece of computer paper. That's been slightly
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    | text      = distressed to look whether legitimately it looks like something that junior high student would
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    | text      = make if they're trying to come up with a prop. It's hard for me to really put this in this
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    | text      = into words, but it's embarrassing. It's pretty sad. I've soaked tea. Uh, I've soaked paper and
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    | text      = tea and then baked it for a little bit and that gives you a little parchment feel. It's good
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    | text      = stuff. Yeah. So Noah made the rounds on some talk shows and got a bunch of publicity, which was
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    | text      = largely filtered back to apex TV since he was appearing with his face obscured. You know, he
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    | text      = had a pixelated thing and it made, they altered his voice. So that made it pretty much anonymous,
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    | text      = you know, even though he has a name to him. Sure. Sure. In one interview I saw of his,
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    | text      = it was a split screen with the news anchors on one side and a shot of his chest on the other.
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    | text      = On his torso, he was wearing a well-framed, uh, apex TV hoodie. Oh, okay. So he was wearing their
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    | text      = logo. It's all free press. This is one of the more low rent, lazy scams I've seen in my time looking
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    | text      = at the paranormal space grifter world. It's remarkable to me to imagine that anyone would
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    | text      = look at this shit and even give it a second thought. Quite honestly, it's even more insane
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    | text      = that this apex TV would promote this story. That's so clearly full of basic holes unless they don't
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    | text      = care. It's just like, this is all just bullshit. Who cares? Get it out the door. We'll get some
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    | text      = money out of this. Then on top of that, it's bananas that Kevin Moore would have such low
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    | text      = standards that he's doing a softball interview with the guy who's promoting this very clearly
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    | text      = full of shit nonsense. But that's what exactly what's happening. All right. So the guy that
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    | text      = we're talking with right now. Yes. That Kevin Moore guy. Yes. And I'm probably just going to
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    | text      = refer to as apex TV. Sure. Sure. Apex TV dude. Uh, he is obscured, but his voice is not altered.
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    | text      = Yeah. Now Noah is both obscured and his voice is altered. Yes. Pixelated over the face. Now,
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    | text      = if I'm apex guy, why am I not both guys? You have to be both guys. It's definitely not.
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    | text      = It's definitely not. We'll get to that later. Okay. But, uh, yeah, I thought about that as well.
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    | text      = Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're already apex guy, of course you're going to
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    | text      = jump into time travel. Why not? You got nothing to lose. You got to be worried about the possibility
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    | text      = of like a raw footage getting leaked, someone getting their hands on that. I don't know.
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    | text      = I don't know exactly why you wouldn't do it. It seems like you'd have one less loose string.
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    | text      = Yeah. Well, the only thing I was thinking is because Moore asked him, he's like, or he says,
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    | text      = you went on TV or did all these interviews all around the world. And then he goes like,
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    | text      = no, I did some, but it was this other guy making me think that Moore knows that it was all him.
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    | text      = And he has to then Kevin doesn't know shit. Kevin. Well, yeah, I should, I should start from
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    | text      = that operating position always. Yeah. That's a theme. Fair enough. So, um, in this next clip,
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    | text      = uh, we get, uh, to find out the apex, they're getting a lot, they talk to a lot of time
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    | text      = travelers. Eventually we got contacted by this man claiming to be a time traveler from the year
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    | text      = 2026, I think. And that was our first interview, um, in which we actually sat down with somebody
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    | text      = in person and he told us an amazing story. I think he really believed what he was saying,
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    | text      = whether or not he was telling the truth as another story, but it was a really interesting,
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    | text      = really interesting, uh, interview. And I, um, I think the viewers thought so as well,
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    | text      = the reach to that was incredible. And ever since then, like in my inbox in the last,
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    | text      = in the last week, I've, uh, maybe 20 people claim to be time travelers, um, from various years.
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    | text      = So it's, it's getting hard to, to interview all these people and they going through each one,
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    | text      = one by one is, uh, it's quite the challenge. Right, right. If you thought any of them were
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:56.820
    | text      = actual time travelers, you'd make the time. Also 20 is not that many. It's a lot. You could knock,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:45:04.340
    | text      = you could vet 20 time travelers in a good two or three hours. I would ask you, how do you
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    | text      = vet a time travel Facebook? First off, how, what do you do? Put their name in there. Sure. Did it
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    | timestamp = 00:45:16.019
    | text      = pop up? Yeah. But then you, if you're back in time, you could make a Facebook page. Sure. It's
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    | text      = very easy. Okay. All you need is an email address. Yeah. But there's other information. I'm just
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    | text      = saying like right off the bat. So if they claim to have shown up in 2017 and they have Facebook
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    | text      = posts from 2015, sure. That does indicate a problem. Yeah. Yeah. See what I'm saying? Like,
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    | text      = that's not going to be the case for all of them. We're going to be using aliases. You're not even
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    | text      = going to be able to find your Facebook page. But say you got 20, I say in the first 10 minutes,
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    | text      = you can knock out at least four or five of those. Yeah. So now you got 15 and you got a whole day
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    | text      = to go through 15. I bet you could do it. Maybe. No problem. I think that you're underestimating
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    | text      = the workload that this would, would bring up. I think that you probably imagined just everything
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    | text      = is this way. Oh yeah. No, no, no. I mean, time-traveling specific. I think that you do
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    | text      = a lot of work for real world, real world. I can prove somebody is not a time traveler in 10
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    | timestamp = 00:46:10.260
    | text      = minutes. All right. Listeners, pretend to be a time traveler, email Jordan, 20 of you, just 20 of
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    | text      = you. Just so you can get a taste of this. I'll knock it out in five minutes. You're in on it
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    | timestamp = 00:46:22.260
    | text      = now. And you could just say none of them are. I could have said that anyway. You probably should.
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    | text      = But anyway, um, we got an indication earlier that there is this, this sort of like, huh, you know,
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    | text      = this guy is coming on Kevin's show because he's one of his more popular subscribers. Sure. Sure.
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    | text      = And it's these, these sorts of interests and these sort of like, uh, motivations come up a bit.
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    | text      = Well, I'll just say, I mean, that's, that's, uh, you know, I mean, I, I've got,
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    | text      = I can beat this out, but I mean, you're making some serious money from this channel as well.
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    | text      = Um, and I think the figures are quite right on social blade cause they're right for my channel.
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    | text      = So first of all, I say congratulations for that. Right. Um, yeah, you have to understand,
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    | text      = we're employing people to transcribe all the videos, uh, putting them into text form so we
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    | timestamp = 00:47:09.460
    | text      = can put them out on our website. Um, we're making the videos into formats that will be acceptable
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    | timestamp = 00:47:14.179
    | text      = for Instagram, Facebook. Uh, we're actually translating the videos now into other languages,
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    | timestamp = 00:47:18.659
    | text      = including Korean, Español, uh, Spanish, um, a couple other languages. I, oh, uh, Hindi.
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    | text      = Uh, we've actually got those channels launched, uh, already. So a lot of the money is,
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    | timestamp = 00:47:30.420
    | text      = most of the money is going right back into Apex TV and by, and into employing more people to, uh,
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    | timestamp = 00:47:36.340
    | text      = to spread these people's messages. And our goal is just to make an environment in which people
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    | text      = aren't afraid to tell their stories. So making a lot of money, but just going back into running
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    | timestamp = 00:47:45.940
    | text      = to run in the business. There's a lot of deflectionary things, uh, like that. And that,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:47:51.380
    | text      = that entire theme of like, where it is, you know, Hey, we're not saying this is true or not,
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    | timestamp = 00:47:56.659
    | text      = not saying this is true. No, we're just gonna make a place where things are comfortable for
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    | text      = people to come forward with their bullshit. Yeah. So I guess fine. It's kind of enabling
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    | timestamp = 00:48:05.780
    | text      = in some ways, but this is a really wild space weirdo interview already out the gate. They're
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    | timestamp = 00:48:11.860
    | text      = breaking a lot of rules. What do you mean? Well, more talking money. Yeah. It's weird.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:17.059
    | text      = Just said like, Hey, I know basically how much money you're making because of how much money
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:21.460
    | text      = I'm making. So congratulations. That is a, that is not okay. That's a slight mask slip.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:27.300
    | text      = Yeah. That's not good. Hey, good job. Yeah. I don't know. I guess on the one hand you could
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    | timestamp = 00:48:35.539
    | text      = look at it as like, we're just talking about it in terms of the financials, but what we're really
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:40.340
    | text      = actually talking about underneath is like how many people have seen the message, but that's even
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    | timestamp = 00:48:45.780
    | text      = try and sell that to anybody. I'm sure that would be kind of the, the way that they would try and
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:50.739
    | text      = yeah. But it does seem like that money promotion attention is, is much more the currency that
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    | text      = they're, they're trafficking in. Um, I just, I don't know. I just, I find this very weird.
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    | timestamp = 00:49:03.460
    | text      = And then also just that, that constant refrain of like, I want to just put it like they're,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:09.380
    | text      = they're out their stories. I don't know if it's true or not. I don't know if it's true or not.
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    | text      = That is so consistent. And it's just weird. I'm just heroically bringing what may be truth to the
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:20.980
    | text      = people and the mainstream media ignores. They can't do it. Right. They're too afraid. Without
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    | timestamp = 00:49:25.300
    | text      = me, Noah would have never been on television. Absolutely fine. Then again, neither would these
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:30.099
    | text      = 20 other guys who are lying as well, but that's not important. Sure. So, uh, Kevin gets around
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    | text      = to talking about how like, it's weird. No time travelers talk to me. Oh my God. I don't get
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    | timestamp = 00:49:43.619
    | text      = these people coming to me. Right. I've never had, well, maybe one, maybe one. Uh, and it was,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:51.139
    | text      = it was about what the real story of the John Teeter story was all about. And it was just
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    | timestamp = 00:49:57.219
    | text      = so crazy and out there that actually it almost did sound actually there was some truth in it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:01.460
    | text      = Right. Um, uh, it was a love story mixed in with this as well. And I've got all the context still.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:08.099
    | text      = Yeah. Uh, yeah, yeah. It was, you know, I've never actually really talked about this. I went
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:16.179
    | text      = all the way down to London, actually, to interview this lady who had met this person many years ago.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:22.099
    | text      = She had, uh, it had destroyed her in some ways because she fell in love with this guy.
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    | timestamp = 00:50:26.900
    | text      = And, um, is he talking about the time traveler's wife? And the whole John Teeter story is not what
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:34.099
    | text      = we think it is. It's actually very different to what the actual story is that's out there.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:38.900
    | text      = So I've only come across it once and I never did anything with it. Why didn't you do anything with
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    | text      = it? Yeah. I also, when I was listening to that, I was like, I've never seen or read the time
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:47.219
    | text      = traveler's wife, but that sounds like it could be the time traveler's wife. It seems like the
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    | timestamp = 00:50:51.860
    | text      = plot you might write if you've never seen it. It just heard the title. It's definitely somebody's
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    | text      = book. Yeah. Yeah. So John Teeter is the classic, you know, that is right. Oh, no. Oh, I didn't,
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    | timestamp = 00:51:04.579
    | text      = I don't want to get too in depth on it. I think we'll probably end up covering it. If we keep
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:08.019
    | text      = going with coast to coast AM, just cause it's a huge thing in that. I might know it. I'm just
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:12.099
    | text      = terrible with names. He's a guy who claimed to be a time traveler and made a bunch of
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:16.900
    | text      = shit predictions. Um, and then other people have claimed to be the real John Teeter. We've talked,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:22.420
    | text      = we talked about him the last time we talked about traveling weirdos, but I just, I just do not
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    | timestamp = 00:51:27.139
    | text      = remember names. It's yeah. We haven't gone in depth on it because it's, it's a gigantic body
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:32.820
    | text      = of work. Let's say, but it's a big part of the like online time travel theory where there's like
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:39.460
    | text      = pretenders, there's the original face. Sure. It's a match. Sure, sure, sure. Um, but yeah,
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    | timestamp = 00:51:44.739
    | text      = I found that, that to be strange. Cause I don't know what he's actually talking about. Does he
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:50.340
    | text      = actually think there's a time traveler or did he talk to a lady who got conned by someone who said
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:55.699
    | text      = they were a time traveler and he's actually in Mexico? I don't know what the fuck he's talking
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    | text      = about. I know somebody didn't make any money off of this and somebody definitely lost some money.
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    | text      = So that's all I haven't decided not to do anything with it, which might be an indication
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    | text      = of good judgment. He could be both. Yeah. So, um, I don't think that if our listeners email you
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    | text      = and try and make you vet them, uh, I don't think you're going to have too tough a time with it
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    | text      = because like I said, you'll just ignore all of it and say none of them are time travelers,
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    | text      = which I think is good. Yeah. I think that's a positive approach. That would be your approach.
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    | text      = Sure. Now we get to hear a little bit about apex TVs approach towards vetting time travelers.
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    | text      = Okay. How do you, how can you vet these people? That's the, that's the issue is with like,
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    | text      = we've had a few who, um, we go through with doing a, so you see, we don't go, we don't go straight
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    | text      = to doing an in-person interview. First off, we do a couple of Skype interviews. We ask them if they
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    | text      = have any conclusive proof for anything. And if what they're showing us seems to be holding up,
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    | text      = we, we sometimes do go as far as to meeting them in person. We've done it a variety of times,
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    | text      = traveled all over the world. Um, actually had some of the best experiences of my life.
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    | text      = For example, we've went to Armenia on several occasions, other European countries, um,
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    | text      = to do interviews with these people. So yeah, that's, that's a major issue. It's like,
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    | text      = how do we know? Yeah. And, and what we're trying to do is create an environment in which people
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    | text      = aren't afraid to tell their story. So I think almost, uh, the less vetting the better,
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    | text      = but if someone's obviously trying to pull your leg, uh, like we've had, we've had that many times,
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    | text      = like we, we go on with an interview with somebody and they're wearing a ski mask
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    | text      = and they, they, they seem to be making a joke out of the whole thing. He looks like he's five
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    | text      = years old or something. We've had that a couple of times. Here's how you know, someone's trying
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    | text      = to pull your leg. They tell you they're a time traveler. I, I, I, so what's the line,
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    | text      = man? Here's the two things that we learned from that clip. The first is that the answer is how
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    | text      = do you vet these people? Uh, we don't. Yes. That's the, that's the number one thing. You don't want
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    | text      = to do too much vetting. We talked to him a couple of times, see if they're just yelling and probably
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    | text      = not because that's just not going to be good for the brand. If they're five years old or if they're
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    | text      = clearly just mentally ill, uh, you know, that's not going to work for us. So we do a couple of
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    | text      = Skype interviews to make sure that they can coherently say a couple of lines. Um, and then
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    | text      = we move forward with it. So that's the vetting process. It's just an audition almost. Right.
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    | text      = Which is great. And then the second thing that we learned is they're making enough money to travel
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    | text      = to fucking Europe repeatedly. Yeah. I'm really not liking that's good. I'm really not liking this.
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    | text      = So this is working. You are fucking bumming me out, man. Uh, yeah, yeah, good. Happy Halloween.
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    | text      = This is beneath us. Also we're broke and they are flying around and having the best time of
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    | text      = their lives. It's beneath us from like a, like a content standpoint to just like critically discuss
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    | text      = them perhaps. But they're not like a relevant in some sense. Like they are massively popular
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    | text      = in a world that we're not a part of. No, no, no, no. I understand. Yeah. So it's still not
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    | text      = punching down even if this is profoundly stupid stuff. I am. I'm not furious. I'm more furious
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    | text      = that we are punching up at that is what I am. That is what I'm expressing my frustration with.
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    | text      = I think we just need no vetting. This entire show is vetting and we're doing it wrong.
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    | text      = Yeah, apparently. So it turns out when you don't vet, yeah, some people end up being outed as
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    | text      = liars. And we've had some people actually come out as being fake. For example, we did an interview
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    | text      = with Michael Phillips who claims to have been from, I forget what year, but he talked about
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    | text      = a third world war and he, he actually came out a couple of weeks ago. He posted a video on his
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    | text      = channel saying it was all, it was all a fake to see if we would take his story and everything.
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    | text      = And I think that, that, that some people might see that as, I don't know, but I think it,
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    | text      = I think it serves us good in the sense that they can see that we're not part of these people. We're
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    | text      = not, we're not telling them what to say. They're, they're the ones coming to us. And I saw in the
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    | text      = comment section, a lot of people were asking him, did Apex TV pay you? Because that's,
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    | text      = that's what everybody's saying online. And, and he responded to all the comments saying, no,
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    | text      = I was just trying to see if Apex TV would take up my story. So you know, that might be the case
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    | text      = with many of these people, but if just one person is telling the truth, it, it proves that,
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    | text      = it proves that things are going on that the public doesn't know about behind closed doors.
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    | text      = But what if no one's telling the truth?
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    | text      = His premise is correct. If there is one time traveler, yeah. One, one, then the whole game
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    | text      = is up. You bet. You know, there's just the whole thing. You bet. It's all over. Now we start from
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    | text      = zero year zero. If there's one time traveler, I agree with you. However,
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    | text      = proving that there is one is it should be easy. It's very easy. It kind of, it kind of should be.
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    | text      = Yeah. Um, so it turns out Jordan, uh, Michael Phillips, that guy that he's talking about in
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    | text      = that clip there is not the only time traveler. That's Phelps. Okay. Uh, he's not the only time
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    | text      = traveler who's been promoted by Apex TV that has come out and said that what they did was fake.
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    | text      = Okay. So this video that he's doing, this interview is, uh, taking place in
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    | text      = 2018. Well, you remember that guy, Noah, that we talked about? Yeah. Well, in July 2019,
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    | text      = Apex TV put out a video revealing that the person claiming to be Noah, the time traveler who got
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    | text      = all of this mainstream news coverage was actually just a guy named Jason who'd faked the whole thing.
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    | text      = Right. In the video put out by Apex, Jason explains that he was an alienated kid,
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    | text      = lonely and bullied. Who'd been, who'd stumbled into Apex TV.
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    | text      = He really got into the whole thing and decided to contact them claiming to be a time traveler.
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    | text      = The entire message feels very curated though with lines like quote, just because I lied,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = it doesn't mean that other people aren't telling the truth. Okay. All right. The video feels like
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    | text      = it was created in order to address the fact that this story was bullshit, but also maintain the
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    | text      = perception that everything else is probably isn't. It also feels like it serves a very
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    | text      = specific purpose, namely to put the blame for the lie on Jason. He was socially isolated and
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    | text      = insecure. So he concocted this plot. Apex TV was just a media outlet for him to tell his lie,
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    | text      = and they did everything in their power to check his story. They even gave him a lie detector test.
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    | text      = So what more do you want from these people? This feels a lot like media relations,
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    | text      = not like an update to the story. Another thing that seems to be a little bit of a
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    | timestamp = 00:58:43.780
    | text      = video relations, not like an update to the story. Another thing that seems weird is that all of the
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    | text      = Noah videos are still up on the Apex channel. Well, yeah, none of their titles have been changed to
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    | timestamp = 00:58:54.420
    | text      = something like guy lies to us about time travel, but it's still good content, man. Just because
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    | text      = it's not true. It doesn't mean it's not good content, but there should be a like parentheses
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    | text      = debunked. What is that? What are they? The guardian? No, this is Apex TV debunk yourself.
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    | text      = They still have titles like quote time traveler from 2030 reveals future of the Philippines
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    | text      = and quote time traveler meets his future self. No disclaimers or anything. Yeah. Yeah. They
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    | text      = should probably just have Jason. Yeah. Jason reveals secrets of 2030. Also that video where
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    | text      = he meets his future self, who apparently has come back to 2017 from 2070. That's the,
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    | text      = that's how it goes, right? So this guy originally came from 2030 to 2017, right? And now 2070
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    | text      = version has come back to 2017. Okay. And they're meeting up. They're going to start a band. Well,
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    | text      = here's the thing. It creates a ton of problems. Now that we know that it's all a lie.
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    | text      = How did that happen? So you have no ally. Now you have a completely separate person who decided to
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    | text      = get in on the lie. So apex TV sets up a meeting between the two. If this is supposed to be true,
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    | text      = how can this even work with the story? I thought Noah got fired from the time traveling job and
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    | text      = got stranded in 2017. So this guy from 2070 would have to be like 60 years older than him,
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    | text      = but he's clearly not like, he's just how old he would be aged from 2030 onto 27. It makes no
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    | text      = sense. He wouldn't have the additional 13 years. The 20, the Noah in 2030 is no longer in the
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    | text      = future. It's like past the time that he comes back to 2017. So that version of himself shouldn't
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    | text      = exist. It's just an embarrassing showing, but you know, apex TV, it's just there to tell people
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    | text      = stories. It's not their fault that the stories that they're telling are lies. They felt victim
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    | text      = to an elaborate fraud carried out by a socially isolated teen and a 40 year old guy who wanted
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    | text      = to pretend to be his future self. It could happen to anyone. That really does sound like a common
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    | text      = story. I go, I go down to the salon. We all play a go and we talk about this circumstance happening
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    | text      = all the time. It's weird considering the logistics of how this would end up happening. Yeah. It
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    | text      = doesn't seem like it would end up happening except by a guiding hand. Yeah, it is. He is,
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    | text      = he was absolutely right when he said it's a good idea not to do too much vetting, like in the same
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    | text      = way, it's a good idea not to worry too much about whether or not your story makes sense. Yeah.
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    | text      = Otherwise, if you start putting that effort into it, then people are going to recognize the craft.
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    | text      = Whereas if you have no effort, people are just going to think you're lying and some people are
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    | text      = going to think you're telling the truth. Doesn't need, doesn't need effort. Nope. So, you know,
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    | text      = they're talking about this and like, so Michael Phillips is, you know, he wasn't true and it all
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    | text      = turned out to not be true. Sure. So Kevin asks an interesting question and that is like, have you
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    | text      = ever been talking to one of these people and just be like, eh, I don't know about this. No, I have
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    | text      = not. Is there times in an interview where you just think this is just a load of rubbish or this is
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    | text      = just, I just can't, this isn't, this is something I can't swallow. Do you know what I mean? This
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    | text      = is just, I can't go down this direction, but you know, yeah, go ahead. During the mermaid interview,
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    | text      = I remember when he, when I asked him if he could speak mermaid and he started making those sounds,
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    | text      = that was, that was the hardest I've ever tried not to laugh during an interview. I didn't want
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    | text      = to be disrespectful if this man really believed he was a mermaid, but yeah, there are, there are
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    | text      = times like that. Yeah. I mean, look, you know, I deal with a lot of shows that with people that
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    | text      = channel, you could say the same thing for them. Do you know what I mean? In some respects. And
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    | text      = I mean, I never, you know, I'm doing a documentary on channeling. That's why I'm heading back out to
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    | text      = the States soon just to finish that documentary. Oh, cool. No, we can't be dealing with this.
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    | text      = But, uh, you know, you could say the same thing about people. Come on. We can't be,
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    | timestamp = 01:02:53.300
    | text      = we can't have both of you commiserating on the, like, I know some people just lie to your face,
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    | text      = right? Well, I mean, it's really interesting because here what's going on is Kevin has asked
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    | text      = him, what's the most laughable thing you've ever seen. He's like, well, a guy pretending to do
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    | text      = a mermaid voice. Yeah. You know, that's kind of like whenever I talk to channelers, put two and
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    | text      = two together, asshole. No shit. And they're both, they're both just moving on, just moving on. Yeah,
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    | text      = I know. Isn't it weird that sometimes people lie to us of all people, the most like one, uh,
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    | text      = interpretation you could take of that is the Kevin Moore is saying like, oh, that's very similar to,
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    | text      = uh, how, like the bullshit that I deal with, which is the channelers who do all these ridiculous
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    | text      = voices. The other reading of it that you could take is Kevin Moore's believing that the channelers
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    | text      = weird voices are sincere and genuine. And then being like, well, you know, maybe that guy was
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    | text      = talking mermaid. Yeah. So anyway, they don't talk about it much, but he interviewed a guy who claimed
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    | text      = to be a mermaid. I believe the, uh, the direct quote would begin with during the mermaid episode,
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    | text      = which is something that I, I, I don't hear often enough, Dan. That was not something I decided to
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    | text      = look into for this episode. Leave that one well enough alone. Let me tell you something in two,
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    | text      = in 10 minutes, I can debunk whether or not you're a mermaid. Send me an email through your
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    | text      = water computer. I love the idea that maybe you're going to get a fuck ton of emails from this. Um,
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    | text      = so he also, uh, apex TV has another interview that's coming up. This is the context of a
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    | text      = conversation where Kevin's trying to ask him about like, do any of them have technology?
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    | text      = And he's like, well, some of them say they have to. Right. Right. Right. Good. Good sign. Uh,
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    | text      = one of them has a top, a spinning top. Uh, and I did actually go watch this video. It is just a
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    | text      = top and he claims that, uh, it has something to do with like a connects to his brain and endorphins
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    | text      = or something. And he's like, well, you know, I know that you won't think this is future technology,
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    | text      = but people in the future who look back and see this video, they will know that I was a time,
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    | text      = who cares? Okay. Anyway, that's the least important thing about this guy. Sure. Um,
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    | text      = there's another indication that I get that something might be up with this dude.
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    | text      = So in a couple of days we have, we're going to do the interview with him and he's going to show it
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    | text      = to us. Um, that's on Skype and I'm, I'm excited to see what he has to say. Sounded like an Australian
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    | text      = man, um, who said, he said some empire never went, dang, I forgot the empire, but he said
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    | text      = one of them never went, uh, got overtaken and they, the Ottoman empire, he said they never
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    | text      = fell. So they they've actually existed throughout time. What we have here is possibly a slight
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    | text      = indication of some bigotry creeping into the proceedings. Now it's entirely possible that
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    | text      = this guy who he's talking to is just a weirdo who has some ahistorical views and some revisionism,
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    | text      = but generally when you hear someone in the present day talking about the Ottoman empire and how it
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    | text      = never really went away, you're listening to a rank Islamophobe. The Ottoman empire is one of the
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    | text      = largest historical examples of a widespread Islamic kingdom and it existed until relatively recently,
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    | text      = only being dissolved after world war one. In modern anti-Muslim circles, it's not super
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    | text      = uncommon to hear references to the Ottoman empire as what the Muslims want to recreate. I know that
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    | text      = I've definitely heard people express the idea that the empire never fell and is actually still alive
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    | text      = today in what they would describe as expansionist Islam. All this really does is to serve, it serves
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    | text      = to reinforce the perception that the turmoil in the world is easily understandable as a
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    | text      = civilization level conflict between Christians and Muslims. It could just be that this dude is,
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    | text      = you know, writing some sort of benign historical fiction. I accept that's entirely a possibility,
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    | text      = but little things like that kind of hinted a possible underbelly of the sorts of things
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    | text      = that you could accidentally give a platform to when you have literally zero editorial oversight
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    | text      = or quality control in what you put out and what you allow these supposed time travelers to
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    | text      = disseminate. You could accidentally give a platform to somebody who has some like crypto
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    | text      = fucked up messages. Yeah, well I mean I imagine that it is at the very least statistically
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    | text      = representative the percentage or the ratio of out and out bigots versus non in the space weirdo
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    | text      = community as it is for the population at large. Maybe higher. If not higher, but at least, you know,
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    | text      = so I say that puts us at what like at at least a 30 chance that any one of those space weirdos
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    | text      = has some weird racial, uh, probably way higher than that. It's possible. I don't want to try and
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    | text      = like, uh, I don't want to try and give a specific number because I think that's where we get into
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    | text      = trouble, but, but yeah, you know, there is some segment of the population that of this population
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    | text      = that, um, is just sublimating their regular racism through space race. Sure. Um, and, and when you
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    | text      = have no vetting, when you have no standards of what you put forward because you want everybody
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    | text      = to be able to come forward with your message, you kind of got to expect that some people might
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    | text      = subconsciously or even consciously try to Trojan horse those sorts of messages through. Oh yeah.
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    | text      = And if you're doing no oversight, no editorial process, nothing, you'll end up just airing shit
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    | text      = that could possibly be space white nationalism. Yeah, easily, easily. So now we get to another,
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    | text      = uh, the, the plot sort of shifts, uh, and we get to a very familiar topic in a paranormal, uh,
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    | text      = talk and that is of course the Mandela effect. Okay. Um, with the, just swapping this subjects
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    | text      = a little bit, but the Mandela effect, that's something that you've covered on your channel
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    | text      = as well. And that's got a lot of, um, that, that, that Mandela effect. A lot of people are talking
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    | text      = about that on YouTube right now. Totally. Just explain to us what that is. And just to begin
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    | text      = with. Yeah. The Mandela effect is where you think something happened in a certain way. And it's,
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    | text      = it's more so where, uh, a mass of people think something happened in a certain way. For example,
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    | text      = at the, um, end of the star Wars movie, uh, Darth Vader says, Luke, I am your father. Um,
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    | text      = it turns out he never said that at all. And you can, you can look this up on YouTube. Um,
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    | text      = I forget what he actually said, but, uh, but it wasn't that. And there's been, there's been a
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    | text      = variety of examples within mainstream media. Did you know that Jordan? What freak out? He doesn't
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    | text      = say, Luke, I'm your father. Uh, okay. Oh, most disappointing freak out ever. So this is one of
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    | text      = the lamest examples ever of the Mandela effect, but it's one that everybody trots out because
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    | text      = almost everybody has seen star Wars. Search your feelings. You know, to be true. I am your father.
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    | text      = No, no. Is that it? No. Okay. People tend to remember the line at the end of empire strikes
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    | text      = back as Luke, I am your father, but in reality, it's not quite the line in the movie. Luke says
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    | text      = to Darth Vader, you killed my father and Vader replies, no, I am your father. It's really easy
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    | text      = to see how this could be quoted as Luke. I'm your father to the point where people just accept that
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    | text      = that's how the line must have been. Cause like discussing out of context, or if you're quoting
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    | text      = the movie, no, I am your father. It sounds way worse than your father. He never said play it
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    | text      = again, Sam, let's move on. You know, that's how it is with pretty much all of these things that
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    | text      = get cited as examples of the Mandela effect. They're all just things that are slightly off
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    | text      = from what actually happened because what actually happened is slightly off from what your brain
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    | text      = would naturally assume. The Baron stain bears is remembered as Baron Stein bears because Stein
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    | text      = is a much more common suffix in last names than stain. Uh, it's stain is just not as common at
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    | text      = all. So people are like, Oh, Baron Stein or Berenstein and they don't have any specific
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    | text      = stains or anything that would make you go like, Oh, stain that would absolutely trigger in your
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    | text      = mind, the mnemonic or whatever the associative device or in reverse, if they were Berenstein
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    | text      = bears, but they had, they were covered in stains. Then you'd remember them as the Berenstein. Very
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    | text      = confusing. Yeah. I've looked at a bunch of examples of the Mandela effect and pretty much all of them
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    | text      = are somewhere in between completely uninteresting and that's weird. Yeah. Mandela effect shit is
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    | text      = good and fun. And honestly, I think it's kind of neat to look at it as like a cataloging of
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    | text      = little ways that we miss incorporate information into our collective cultural memory, almost like
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    | text      = it's a database of times that we viewed off from integrating precise information, preferring
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    | text      = simplicity, but it becomes really serious bullshit when you take it seriously and try to present it
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    | text      = as a paranormal phenomenon, which is pretty much all of these grifters do. And it makes sense why
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    | text      = they would. The Mandela effect at its core is pointing out errors and cultural memory.
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    | text      = And by definition, we're all engaged with cultural memory. Everyone who's part of the culture takes
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    | text      = some, uh, takes on some relation to it. We draw information from it. If we didn't, we'd have a
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    | text      = much more difficult time relating to each other without shared references and touchstones and,
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    | text      = and, and easy ways to make metaphors because we're all interacting with this collective memory,
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    | text      = pointing out times when it was just slightly off is compelling to a large number of people.
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    | text      = Almost every single person you'll ever ask about the Berenstein bears will think it's
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    | text      = spelled Stein because that's the way our culture ended up remembering the name.
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    | text      = Thus, whenever you point out these little quirks, you will get a response out of most people ranging
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    | text      = from that's weird to no fucking way, man. And it's that response that you need in order to inject a
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    | text      = kernel and of doubt in them, that reality is not what it seems to be. You can take that visceral
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    | text      = experience of learning that Darth Vader doesn't say, Luke, I am your father and use it to say,
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    | text      = Hey, you were certain that he said, Luke, I'm your father, but he didn't. So what else are you
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    | text      = certain of that you might be wrong about in this way? The Mandela effect shade is a really useful
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    | text      = entry point for paranormal grifters to use to open their audience's mind to the possibility
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    | text      = that other complete horseshit they're trying to sell them might actually be real. Even though
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    | text      = you're certain that it's not, that's why it's such a mainstay of these weirdo grifters content.
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    | text      = So I'm not surprised to see both Kevin and apex TV are interested in the subject. Yeah, of course.
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    | text      = It's almost it's near universal. And I'm not saying that everybody who talks about it is by
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    | text      = default engaging in some kind of grift, right? Cause some people are just like, Oh, this is a
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    | text      = strange thing. You see it, but the people who are kind of really into it, those are the people you
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    | text      = got to really look out for. It is, it is kind of an interesting collective neurological exploit.
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    | text      = Yeah. You know, it's like that, that video where you see all those people bouncing the ball around
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    | text      = and then there's the gorilla going through the back through it. And you're like, why is it that
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    | text      = my brain just cuts that out? Why do I miss that? And the same thing is true of this on a macro scale
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    | text      = of just like I'm, I'm rewriting reality for my comfort. And then whenever you show me that it's
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    | text      = not, I'm my discomfort expresses itself in a weird way. Attention and memory aren't things that like
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    | text      = catalog things directly and concretely. And that is true on an individual level. And it's true on
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    | text      = a cultural level. Eyewitness testimony should not be allowed. And that's most of what explains this
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    | text      = phenomenon. Um, and so I just, I, I, when you look at it on that level, uh, whether or not I, I, I do
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    | text      = think it's intentionally deployed and weaponized in some ways by these, these folks. For sure. I,
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    | text      = I do think that it is a recruiting kind of strategy, uh, in the, these space groups. Yeah. I
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    | text      = think it's, I think it's weaponized in the same way that so many games are, are optimized to
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    | text      = maintain your attention and keep giving you that, you know, like when you're playing candy crush or
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    | text      = something like that, they have psychologists who have spent their careers figuring out ways to
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    | text      = make you spend 20 cents every time you need to press a button. Sure. They give you that feedback
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    | text      = loop. And the same thing is true of this. If there's an exploit to make them to earn people
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    | text      = money, they're going to find it. Well, and there's so many other things too. I mean, there's, there's
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    | text      = parallels of like, uh, stuff in Alex Jones's and the right wing media's, uh, strategies to like
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    | text      = with him, you can get a lot of people to be like, Oh, freak out by being like, Hey, did you know
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    | text      = the federal reserve is private? Like those sorts of, why is it called federal then all those kinds
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    | text      = of like entry level meme type, uh, things are, they serve to open you up to the grander and
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    | text      = larger, less, um, believable, right. Uh, conclusions that they want to walk you towards.
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    | text      = And you can go just a little bit of time. Oh, I thought I could, I was certain it was spelled
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    | text      = Berenstain bears. Uh, well, if my memory is wrong about that, what else could it be wrong about?
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    | text      = Sure. It could be anything. And that's one of the things that I actually, I think is good and bad
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    | text      = about this. Like it is really interesting to think about these things. It's fun to talk about
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    | text      = the ways in which our memories glitch to a certain extent. Right. Um, I don't know. That's my feeling
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    | text      = on it, but I just think you have to have a more critical stance if you want to talk about it.
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    | text      = Honestly, you can't talk about it. This is like, Oh, it's probably parallel dimension shifting.
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    | text      = It could be. That is a sign that you're probably, uh, full of shit. Kazaam. So in this next clip,
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    | text      = we talk a little bit more about this here, uh, this, this year Mandela effect. And I think they
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    | text      = called it the Mandela effect because they heard that Nelson Mandela had died, uh, previous to when
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    | text      = he act previous to when he actually did. And then a mass of people remembering he died on a certain
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    | text      = day when he didn't. And he actually lived, uh, for a while past then. So there's a, and the interesting
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    | text      = thing is that if you go on Google and you go on Google trends and search Nelson Mandela death,
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    | text      = you can see it. You see a big spike. Um, I forget when it was, but it was way previous to his actual
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    | text      = death. I wasn't as big as the spike obviously to when he actually died, but the spike was a pretty
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    | text      = sizable and it makes you wonder why that happened. Makes you wonder why. So I consulted the Google
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    | text      = trends and what you see is a relatively flat graph with a giant spike in December, 2013,
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    | text      = which makes sense since Nelson Mandela died on December 5th, 2013. Oh yeah. That makes perfect
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    | text      = sense. What makes slightly less sense is that there's another spike smaller than the December
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    | text      = one, but it's still very noticeable in June, 2013. Okay. Now apex TV was saying it was a long time
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    | text      = before he died. It's a couple of months. So he's fudging things a little bit, but there is still
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    | text      = another spike in cases like this. It's important to consider possible explanations for this before
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    | text      = jumping to conclusions and think this means that Nelson Mandela died in June and then again in
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    | text      = December or whatever this dude is trying to apply possibly alternate timelines. Google trends only
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    | text      = reflects what people are searching for. So if they were searching for Nelson Mandela death,
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    | text      = it's entirely possible they were searching for those terms in order to find out if he was dead.
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    | text      = In 2013, Nelson Mandela was 94 years old and in early June, he was admitted to a hospital
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    | text      = in Pretoria with a recurrence of a chronic lung infection. The doctors initially put his condition
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    | text      = as serious but stable, but after a few weeks in the hospital, he was downgraded to being in
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    | text      = critical condition. South African citizens held vigils outside the hospital and it became a
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    | text      = really big deal with the media questioning if President Obama was going to be able to visit
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    | text      = him while he was receiving treatment. Yeah. The South African press was reporting urgent meetings
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    | text      = to quote, discuss delicate matters, which many interpreted as signs of them preparing for his
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    | text      = imminent passing. Yeah. Outside of December when he actually died, June, 2013 was the month when
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    | timestamp = 01:18:24.420
    | text      = the most speculation about his passing was done in the press. Google trends reflect an increase
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    | timestamp = 01:18:30.260
    | text      = of search traffic for his death at a time that makes complete sense unless you're willfully
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    | text      = obtuse and want to mislead people. Yeah. He was admitted to a hospital with a serious condition
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    | timestamp = 01:18:41.539
    | text      = in June, 2013. That's when that other spike is. And then he died fairly recently after that.
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    | timestamp = 01:18:47.619
    | text      = Yeah. A couple months later. There was a big push in the news for it and then it just has to die
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    | timestamp = 01:18:54.579
    | text      = down because he's still alive. Right. So that big push is everybody thinking, oh, he's going to die
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    | timestamp = 01:19:00.100
    | text      = soon. Right. He's going to die soon. And people writing articles about the possibility that he'll
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    | timestamp = 01:19:05.539
    | text      = pass and talking about his legacy. Right. There's a lot of media attention on it when a heroic
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    | text      = figure is 94 years old and is hospitalized in serious but stable condition. Yeah. You've got to
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    | text      = recognize that serious but stable at 94 is bad. Yeah. So that's still bad. Serious but stable at
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    | timestamp = 01:19:24.819
    | text      = 94 is like, we're hoping for 94 and a half. You could make it to like, you know, serious but
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    | timestamp = 01:19:31.300
    | text      = stable at 94 is not like, it's not a good prognosis. You're still, you still could die at any
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    | text      = point. Yeah. So people searching for, you know, the Nelson Mandela death makes total sense.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:43.300
    | text      = Trying to use that as some kind of like a piece of information that helps the Mandela effect look
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    | text      = real is just ludicrous. Yeah. That's why. It's irresponsible. I never understood why. I
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    | text      = understood that it was called the Mandela effect because people thought he died before he did.
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    | text      = I got that. I never understood that this was why. I honestly don't even think that's why. That's not
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    | text      = good. Because I, from my memory, I don't remember if this is exactly right, but it's my sense that
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    | text      = people thought that he died while he was in prison. Oh. It wouldn't have been a couple months
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    | text      = before. Really? People thought he died while he was in prison? Which doesn't make sense because
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    | timestamp = 01:20:20.260
    | text      = he became president of South Africa after he was in prison. None of it makes sense. I didn't
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    | text      = realize that. Nevermind. When I last looked into it, it was my feeling that people were theorizing
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    | text      = that he had died years before. Oh, okay. This couple months before on the Google trends,
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    | text      = which is what he's talking about, that's not even in line with the theories that people have.
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    | text      = That's wild. I don't know. I mean, it could be that there was some dissident leader that
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    | text      = died in prison around that and then you just kind of... Some ANC figures? Yeah, yeah. I don't care
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    | text      = to fully try and figure out what these people are misremembering, but they're misremembering
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    | timestamp = 01:20:58.819
    | text      = something. Maybe they just wished that Mandela was dead. Don't apply such universal negative.
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    | timestamp = 01:21:07.699
    | text      = At this point, Kevin, I think, is doing a terrible job. Rightfully, he starts to get a little bit
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    | text      = self-conscious that people will think this is a softball interview. Right, because he's shit at
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    | timestamp = 01:21:17.859
    | text      = it. Some of my friends, if they were watching this, would be like, Kev, you're being so soft
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:21.619
    | text      = on this interview. It's like, it's all... Come on, Kev. Ask some really difficult questions.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:26.739
    | text      = Or, you know, but the thing is, well, it's not my platform to do that. Do you know what I mean?
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    | timestamp = 01:21:35.060
    | text      = What? I mean, this is what you're doing. And whichever way this works out in the future,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:40.579
    | text      = it's a fun interview right now. Do I totally believe it? Well, no. But then again,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:49.859
    | text      = I've come across some crazy stuff, so I can't say no totally yet. Do you know what I mean?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:54.260
    | text      = It's like, I've had a UFO experience. I can't prove that to anybody. Yep. Yep. Me too. Me too.
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    | timestamp = 01:22:01.300
    | text      = Oh, you've had an experience, have you? So this is just sloppy. This dude is a fucking psychopath.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:08.260
    | text      = That is the craziest shit. You know, it's not my channel to do that. No, it's your channel. Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:14.739
    | text      = It's yours. I don't... You translate that to, I don't feel like being critical right now.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:20.180
    | text      = It's a bit of work. And like you have a YouTube channel where you have demonstrated the capability
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    | timestamp = 01:22:25.460
    | text      = of getting millions of hits. Now, maybe that's in sunnier days and you're not, maybe you're not
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    | timestamp = 01:22:30.739
    | text      = averaging a million hits or whatever, but I mean, if you go to their channel, they still have over
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    | timestamp = 01:22:34.979
    | text      = a million subscribers. So like, he recognizes that there is a possibility of some kind of advancement
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    | timestamp = 01:22:43.619
    | text      = for his game. And that, that goes away if he starts being hypercritical to him. You know,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:49.619
    | text      = it's crazy. I think I, I think I'm channeling somebody who was a time traveler right now.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:56.420
    | text      = Hold on. Hold on. It turns out it was the mermaid in that bit. It is, it is his channel to do
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:07.539
    | text      = whatever he wishes to do with it. And it's clear what he wants to do with it is not be critical.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:13.060
    | text      = Yeah. It's not, it's not take any position that's of, of like a, what the fuck are you talking about?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:19.539
    | text      = Hey, I watched this video. Is this for children? Are you trying to scam views off kids?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:25.619
    | text      = Yes. Oh, good. It does. It does feel like the type of interview where those two dudes are like,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:31.460
    | text      = we're both scamming. You're making money. I'm making money. Hey, you talk to weirdos.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:36.180
    | text      = I talk to weirdos. You stealing people's money. Yeah. Haha. Gotcha. You run a psychic hotline?
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    | timestamp = 01:23:41.380
    | text      = Yeah. Yeah. And that impression does not, it's not helped. You know,
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    | text      = you don't help disabuse yourself of that perception in this next clip.
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    | text      = And I know Facebook is a is a growing market for content creators. For example,
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    | timestamp = 01:23:58.100
    | text      = I posted a video on there. Our inner, our first interview with Noah, I posted on there
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    | timestamp = 01:24:02.500
    | text      = with no no promotion whatsoever. That video somehow got 6 million views within like the
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    | timestamp = 01:24:08.500
    | text      = first week just on just on Facebook. So I've been working a lot trying to transcribe videos
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    | timestamp = 01:24:14.180
    | text      = because the vast majority of people who watch Facebook videos, watch them without sound.
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    | timestamp = 01:24:18.100
    | text      = So you're going to want captions on it and everything. But yeah, I remember Noah mentioned
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    | timestamp = 01:24:22.260
    | text      = that YouTube will exist and he's from the year 2030. But I never I've never asked anybody
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    | timestamp = 01:24:30.340
    | text      = from farther into the future if if YouTube will still exist.
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    | timestamp = 01:24:33.300
    | text      = Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it? You know, putting the videos onto Facebook, just what that what
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    | timestamp = 01:24:37.300
    | text      = they do. And I should be experimenting with that a bit more, actually. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:42.739
    | text      = Yeah, because it's Yeah, it's but you obviously this, I don't know, there's a way to monetize
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    | timestamp = 01:24:48.659
    | text      = them. I think there is for some. Yeah, I don't know how that works.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:52.579
    | text      = You have to have an insane amount of followers or likes on your Facebook page to be able to
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:24:57.300
    | text      = monetize it and they and they only choose certain people. But yeah, that's how and YouTube and yeah,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:02.979
    | text      = that's that's the main attraction to YouTube. And I obviously like YouTube way more than Facebook.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:08.100
    | text      = I think it's a way better platform overall. Oh, do you? They're having a little bit of a business
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    | timestamp = 01:25:12.579
    | text      = meeting about I am bananas crazy. You can't do this. You can't do this. This is I don't even
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    | timestamp = 01:25:22.500
    | text      = know what this is. It's showing the cards a little ridiculous. Oh, you do put you know, put those
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    | timestamp = 01:25:29.300
    | text      = videos out on Facebook. I should I should mess with that. That does seem like a really good way
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:34.340
    | text      = to drive traffic. This is like two spiritualists like fortune tellers in the 1920s in a goddamn
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:41.060
    | text      = theater telling everybody exactly how they fucking lie to them. Yeah. I mean, without the, you know,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:46.819
    | text      = admitting we're lying. It's just like, yeah, here's how you game social media a little bit.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:51.939
    | text      = Hey, this stuff works. Oh, and if you're going to do that, people watch them on mute because they
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:25:55.460
    | text      = auto scroll by them. You got to have subtitles on there. Good, good, good stuff. Oh man. It's
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    | timestamp = 01:26:03.699
    | text      = weird when you have like an hour to talk to a guy who knows time travelers and a significant amount
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:09.939
    | text      = of the time is spent like talking shop about just being a YouTube video maker. Yeah. I mean,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:17.460
    | text      = I'm not going to blow this out of proportion because this is really true. If there was a
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    | timestamp = 01:26:24.100
    | text      = real time traveler, the world would fucking explode. It is over. Right. And it seems like
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:31.060
    | text      = it's a better use of time to discuss that stuff over, um, how to, you know, use social media.
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    | timestamp = 01:26:37.460
    | text      = Yeah. It kind of feels like that is a tacit admission that what this guy does is buzz as
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    | timestamp = 01:26:44.020
    | text      = opposed to, uh, content. Yeah. So I know this guy who understands the collapse of five dimensional
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    | timestamp = 01:26:50.020
    | text      = space time and it's like, how do I monetize this on Facebook? Ah, yeah. And again, that's fine for
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    | timestamp = 01:26:59.699
    | text      = him. If you know, if that's what the game is, I feel like Kevin Moore would like to pretend that
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:05.140
    | text      = that's not what his game is, but at the same time it takes on a different feeling. If you know,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:12.180
    | text      = it's not just a guy who's like, Hey, here's a video. Some guy sent me claiming to be a time
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    | timestamp = 01:27:16.500
    | text      = traveler. If he's involved in it, it takes on a different feeling for me. I'm not sure why. Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:27:24.500
    | text      = And I, I think that's important. And this next clip kind of bummed me out. I deeply feel sorry
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    | timestamp = 01:27:31.939
    | text      = for Noah because I, we did a lie detector test with him and the lie detector said he was telling
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    | timestamp = 01:27:37.539
    | text      = the truth on the one when he said he was a time traveler. And I, if he's telling the truth or not,
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    | timestamp = 01:27:45.699
    | text      = it's clear he's in a lot of, it's clear he's very depressed. He's in a, he's in a lot of stress.
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    | timestamp = 01:27:51.140
    | text      = And I, I, I feel really bad for, well, they're leaving the families behind, aren't they? The
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:57.460
    | text      = families, the loved ones, you know, you're not taking it serious. So he's taking it serious.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:04.020
    | text      = He took it serious. See at this point though, like they haven't come out with the video saying
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:08.659
    | text      = this guy's lying. Oh, that's right. That's that's in the future from when this video is recorded.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:14.420
    | text      = He's he's saying that this guy misses his family from the future. That's the thing is like
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:21.140
    | text      = this guy apex is coming around and being like, well, if he's telling the truth, this, you know,
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    | timestamp = 01:28:27.859
    | text      = whatever. And if he's lying, no matter what, I feel bad for him or whatever. Right. And then
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:32.899
    | text      = Kevin is the one who comes in with the, assuming that it's real, they're separated from their
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    | timestamp = 01:28:37.939
    | text      = families. Well, I mean, you, you can't handle that. Like I saw a time cop. JCVD didn't love
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    | timestamp = 01:28:43.859
    | text      = being away from his love or whatever it was. This is not a critical look at anything, man. Like,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:48.979
    | text      = this is Kevin pretending to be doing an interview, but honestly just kind of hoping for some easy
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:53.300
    | text      = clicks that he doesn't have to work too hard for. 100%. That's what's going on. Yeah. This is lazy.
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    | timestamp = 01:28:58.180
    | text      = Now it's also interesting that apex feels sad for Noah. Even if Noah is running a scam on him
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:03.699
    | text      = and making this whole thing up, it's clear that apex, that he's in a tough spot. It's what an
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:08.739
    | text      = understanding person, you know, that's the kind of thing you hear and you just can't help but
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    | timestamp = 01:29:13.619
    | text      = think that he wouldn't steer you wrong. I'm just, I just see him in such a bad spot and if he's
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    | timestamp = 01:29:18.500
    | text      = telling me the truth or not, I still want to exploit his story. So you remember how I told
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    | text      = you earlier that this guy, Jason came out and admitted that he was lying and pretending to be
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    | text      = Noah, the time traveler. Yes. And how that video was put out by apex TV, but also kind of felt
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    | text      = weird. Yeah. There's a reason. Why is that? That video where apex announces that Jason had lied to
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    | text      = them and made it all up was uploaded on July 23rd, 2019. Oh, when Mandela died. And the primary
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    | text      = function of it seemed to be to put all the responsibility for this scam on this guy, Jason,
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    | text      = he was the one who made the stuff up and apex was just passing along his information for you to
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    | text      = decide what you think about it. Oh my God. Is somebody getting sued? I mean, really when you
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    | text      = get right down to it, the fact that they put out that video is clear proof that apex is willing to
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    | text      = own up to its own mistakes and that it will even expose themselves if they've stepped in it.
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    | text      = In a completely bizarre and almost certainly unrelated coincidence, 10 days prior on July 13th,
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    | text      = another person named Dennis Bell had posted a video where he revealed that he was Noah
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    | text      = and he was sick of playing the character. No fucking shit. He was scared that people
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    | text      = would discern his identity and dox him. So he decided the best way to minimize the threat was
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    | text      = to address the issue head on. According to Dennis, when he was 14 years old, he was a kid making
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    | text      = comedy YouTube videos, posting them pretty much daily through his channel. He ended up meeting
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    | text      = apex TV, who enlisted him to play the role of Noah. He claimed that apex pressured him to sign
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    | text      = a nondisclosure agreement, which is kind of funny to think about, even if they ever took him to
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    | text      = court to enforce the NDA, the obvious question of why they have an NDA active with a 14 year old
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    | text      = who looks a lot like their time traveler, that would probably come up. It's really only useful
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    | text      = as an intimidation tactic against a 14, 15 year old. It's ridiculous. Dennis alleges that he was
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    | text      = paid by apex and that when they recorded the videos, everyone was just laughing because of
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    | text      = how stupid it was. It'll be really easy to just take this as a guy who's trying to get into the
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    | text      = scam and involve himself, except that his video includes clips of the original apex TV videos.
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    | text      = Oh, see, now that one is really tough to talk your way around without his face blurred. Oh,
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    | text      = that one's really tough. Does he look exactly, does he look exactly like Jason and talking
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    | text      = sound exactly like Jason? The video of Jason saying that he was Noah does not look anything
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    | text      = like the unedited versions that Dennis, uh, put out, but it does look a lot like him.
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    | text      = He includes clips that apex didn't release initially that definitely indicate coaching.
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    | text      = One of the more damning ones is probably a clip of Noah about to shake hands with his older self
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    | text      = that begins with an off camera voice saying action.
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    | text      = It's kind of impossible for me to say like whether, like whether or not this Dennis guy
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    | text      = is 100% the kid in the original videos, but they look very, very similar and have the same voice
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    | text      = and mannerisms. Personally, it looks to me a lot like this kid's telling the truth and those
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    | text      = receipts are pretty tough to explain. Otherwise, although that you could say like, okay, he just
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    | text      = shot recreation videos of it. I find that very unlikely. Yeah. I'm going to go with no on that,
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    | text      = but here's the thing. I'm still not sure I care about this.
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    | text      = Is there a big difference between soliciting independently created videos where people
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    | text      = are pretending to be time travelers and creating videos yourself, where people pretend to be time
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    | text      = travelers? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. In the first case, you're just posting bullshit and
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    | text      = profiting off it. And in the process, probably enabling some mentally unwell people down this
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    | text      = road, encouraging them validating this. In the second case, you're perpetuating a fraud,
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    | text      = but it's also kind of in the realm of performance art. I'm fine with it. I guess. I don't really
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    | text      = know. I think the big issue is presentation. The fact that the channel portrays itself as just
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    | text      = reporting on things, you know, like I was passing this along while they're, in fact, apparently
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    | text      = orchestrating those things themselves. I think that's intrinsically dishonest and manipulative.
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    | text      = It'd be kind of like if we created a right-wing talk show host to say things that we wanted them
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    | text      = to say so that we could cover them. It's kind of a betrayal of the format of whatever you're doing.
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    | text      = Right. I mean, I feel like this is an ethical question about what is already demonstrably
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    | text      = untrue and unethical, I think, from a very fundamental standpoint.
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    | text      = It's a little bit of a gray area case to me in some ways.
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    | text      = I know, but it seems like what we're really dealing with is an unethical actor in a game of
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    | text      = poor ethics, you know, where it's like you're too far in. I'm fine with your inethical.
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    | text      = I would say it's an unethical actor inside a game absent ethics because
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    | text      = that's a good way of putting it. Fucking around online or whatever like this isn't intrinsically
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    | text      = unethical or unethical. It just is what it is. You're not doing it right. You're making me feel
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    | text      = bad. That's what it is. I think that there are added considerations when the appearance is there
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    | text      = that you're actually running a hoax as opposed to it just being bullshit. I don't know what
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    | text      = the intrinsic difference is, but I'm certain it's there. I know I feel it. I don't think
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    | text      = Immanuel Kant ever had to deal with this exact question. This guy, Dennis, he comes out with
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    | text      = these claims that he's making and the video including the footage of him. Some of them
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    | text      = you could say are recreations. A video of him standing in front of a line of trees
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    | text      = saying some things where it's like it shows the pixelated version and then the unpixilated
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    | text      = version. You could say like, oh maybe you just went out and shot that. The one that's
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    | text      = really tough to get around is the one of him meeting his older self because that
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    | text      = matches the video that Apex TV put out and he put out the one with his face unblurred.
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    | text      = It definitely looks exactly like it. It's tough to get around and so he puts this out and then
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    | text      = just a little bit later Apex puts out their version with a guy claiming I'm Noah. I was lying.
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    | text      = I suspect that's why they put that video out. Yeah, that would make the most sense. It feels
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    | text      = like damage control and it probably was because it's not that big a deal to the presentation of
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    | text      = the channel if one of their sources turns out to be a liar. No one's perfect and we're all
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    | text      = going to fall for something at one point in our lives. It's a much bigger deal for their
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    | text      = presentation if the impression is that they're just creating bullshit on their own and passing
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    | text      = it off as if it could be real. It's the difference between naivete and trusting people and a hoax.
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    | text      = Yeah, being exposed as naive might hurt your reputation a little but being a hoaxer really
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    | text      = destroys any possibility of future credibility but again I don't care that much and the but the
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    | text      = idea that like a 14-15 year old was being put in this kind of a position makes me pretty
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    | text      = uncomfortable. Yeah, how old is he now? When he made that video so I guess that's current. He's 16.
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    | text      = Oh man. Yeah, this still kind of falls under the heading of like this is what lame grifters on
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    | text      = YouTube do. Yeah, it's kind of the wild west. Yeah, it's a good game. Yeah, it's not that interesting to me big
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    | text      = picture. It is interesting to me that Kevin Moore is interested in talking to this guy and even
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    | text      = giving an ounce of this could be real to him. That indicates a complete inability or unwillingness to
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    | text      = critically engage with the subject he's covering and in fairness to him the stuff about Noah being
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    | text      = fake hadn't come out by the time he made this video that we're listening to but the stuff about
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    | text      = the Swedish insurance commercial had. There were plenty of red flags that would suggest that maybe
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    | text      = this operation isn't on the up and up even by the almost non-existent standards of the paranormal
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    | text      = YouTube community. Kevin Moore is not a critical voice. There's something else going on with his
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    | text      = beef with Kerry and Mark Richards. I'm not sure what it is but I need to figure it out. I don't
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    | text      = know if we'll ever be able to get to the bottom of it. Right. But there's something rotten in
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    | text      = Denmark. Based on Sweden. Based on. No, there's nothing rotten there. It's an insurance commercial
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    | text      = and it's fantastic. I think most insurance things are. If there's one thing that we've learned or
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    | text      = I've learned from listening to him because we've listened to a couple of his videos. Yeah.
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    | text      = As long as he has a personal connection he will let anything go. Maybe. And I mean that is or
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    | text      = better yet as long as he doesn't have a personal vendetta. Or everything can go. Or if he has a
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    | text      = reason to think that this could be an avenue for greater exposure. Right. You know that that does
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    | text      = also like this this behavior that he's doing here he doesn't know this guy. Yeah. He's not friends
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    | text      = with him. Yeah. What it comes down to for me is I think that this episode like when I said that
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    | text      = it's beneath us I think it's because this Apex TV shit is super lame and real whack. Yeah. And
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    | text      = the revelation of it being fake first of all is assumed. Yeah. Of course. And the fact that it's
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    | text      = a hoax is like well I kind of expect that. And I don't know how much more unethical it makes it
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    | text      = than than what it originally is. I think the second hoax video is I think the hoax taking
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    | text      = over the truth. That's the part that I think is genuinely morally bad. Okay. That's when that's
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    | text      = when we've crossed the the gray area into you guys know what you're doing and you're trying to steal
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    | text      = this this story. You're creating a hoax to to combat your own hoax. I could I could yeah I
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    | text      = definitely see that like cover up is worse than the crime situation. There's definite ill intent
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    | text      = behind that one. And I definitely don't think that it's not worth considering the idea that like if
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    | text      = this the Dennis guy is telling the truth then what's going on is really inappropriate behavior
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    | text      = with a minor. Oh absolutely. Like he talks about how uncomfortable he was as it went along and how
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    | text      = he started to get harassing messages when people started to try and figure out who he was. Yeah.
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    | text      = And so like putting a minor in that kind of a situation is probably legally actionable. I don't
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    | text      = know if it is but it's definitely not something that someone with good intent would do. For sure.
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    | text      = Well I mean if you want it's a lie it's a line past which you should not venture. What kind of
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    | text      = what kind of guardianship do we have going on there? Did the guardian sign shit? Did you know
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    | text      = he does say that he does say that they asked his parents to sign an NDA as well. Oh that's trouble
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    | text      = then. But you got to assume that like if you're a parent even if you're a decent parent and like
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    | text      = all right I'm gonna be in a YouTube video. It's acting. Yeah yeah yeah. You might not have any
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    | text      = alarm bells go off at that. Man technology just moved too fast for parents. You have no fucking
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    | text      = clue. I want to center this. That's such a like man when I was a kid all you had to worry about
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    | text      = a 14 year old boy doing was jerking off in the bathroom and now? Now. Now he's creating space
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    | text      = hoaxes? Time travel hoaxes yeah. What? I want to I want to refocus this because like all that stuff
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    | text      = is nebulous and I don't care. Apex TV is not something that I care to be on my radar. Right.
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    | text      = Except as a way with which we can see Kevin Moore more clearly. Yeah yeah yeah. And that's really
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    | text      = what I'm interested in. I'm interested in this clear bullshit. Yeah. Being like entertained and
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    | text      = like oh but it's not only that even. Like Kevin Moore in much the same way Richard Belzer was not
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    | text      = a passive actor. Yeah. On the day of the Boston bombing when he was a guest on Alex Jones's show
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    | text      = he was a participant. Kevin Moore is trying to become a little bit of a participant in this
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    | text      = charade. What if you stumbled across something here that's not what it seems to be but it's
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    | text      = something else? Yeah that I I don't know like uh what would you say for example?
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    | text      = I don't know well uh it's it's uh what's that movie where the the people become the host of
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    | text      = something else and it's they don't know 15 of them. The Guest is that the movie I'm thinking of?
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    | text      = No probably not. I don't know I haven't seen that one. Okay that's probably not that one
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    | text      = but the idea that you know um yeah that that people are taken over by something else for
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    | text      = other reasons but you know that may just you know and again as you say it's possible it's yeah
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    | text      = yeah it's possible right I mean I'm trying to you know yeah make sense of this. I can make sense of
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    | text      = it yeah. He's trying to imply hey maybe it's demons. Maybe it's demons. It's some other
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    | text      = dimensional creature. Could be uh could be space little things that go in your ear. Josh Hartnett
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    | text      = was involved I guess meth kills him I'm not sure. Don't try and yes and this shit like if you care
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    | text      = about the credibility of your community your space weirdo community you want to be like hey we're you
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    | text      = know us channeling people we want to be we demand to be taken seriously it kind of behooves you to
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    | text      = not be like oh maybe these folks uh demons right right right. I think people are making this up.
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    | text      = No it's very much like uh it's in in its own way it's like if you're uh doing an interview on
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    | text      = fucking fox news and you answer one of the questions and then you return it back with
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    | text      = them and it's like oh well how do you think it's possible for us to do this and then he
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    | text      = just comes up with a uh the anchor comes up with a reason that your shit makes sense for you that's
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    | text      = that's you fucking everybody over if you're participating you're escalating exactly yeah
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    | text      = and enabling absolutely in this next and deceiving yeah in this next clip apex is talking about how
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    | text      = people think that they're involved with the people that they feature in their videos which they very
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    | text      = well may be um apparently that's a criticism that they get and a spec a theory that some people have
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    | text      = i can't imagine why um and uh so he addresses that and again kevin is enabling him there's been a lot
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    | text      = of misunderstanding though people thinking we're in on these videos and i i'm planning on making
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    | text      = a video soon explaining to people because i don't think people get that we're not affiliated with
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    | text      = these people that we're interviewing and there's been a lot of people who who don't really get it
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    | text      = and i i'm going to make a video soon talking about uh how we don't know these people and just
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    | text      = explain things put things in more context well you can see how people would think that because
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    | text      = they'll think well these are friends of yours or you know these are people or actors that you know
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    | text      = from other countries that you've paid and um you know you know there's makeup involved and
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    | text      = everything else and you know you're not revealing yourself you can you can understand why they're
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    | text      = thinking like that some people but um well i i guess you're already thinking along those lines
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    | text      = of of putting something out there that's real wishy washy i feel like i'm getting swift boated
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    | text      = right now that's real wishy washy you can see you can see how somebody would think that but
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    | text      = you know i think you've already got that one under control yeah that's such a i got nothing
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    | text      = yeah i don't have the nerve to say it's clear that's what's you're full of shit the fact that
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    | text      = you like he does bring this up a couple times in this interview it does seem to indicate he's
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    | text      = singularly focused with pushing back on that yeah in the same way that when they put out their video
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    | text      = with jason revealing that he had lied to them yeah it was also to serve the purpose of like
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    | text      = we were the ones who were lied to we had nothing to do with exactly it seems like you push back on
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    | text      = that maybe it's because you're self-conscious about the fact that you're doing that right
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    | text      = right that's that's kind of the vibe i get yeah it's part of your mystique that you're just
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    | text      = passing these on and also part of your like a layer of protection from criticism yeah the
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    | text      = moment you're involved in making them it's like oh you all right guys get out of here get the
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    | text      = fuck out it's like it's much easier to write off it's like if we actually had stanley kubrick
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    | text      = filming the moon landing then it's we're all like okay get the fuck out of here u.s government we
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    | text      = don't need any of your shit now yeah we know you're all lying i don't know if it extends that far but
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    | text      = i'm gonna go with it dude so uh we get to the end of this interview and uh we get to see that uh
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    | text      = kevin moore great judge of character you seem to be a really nice guy right you know thanks man yeah
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    | text      = you too you know you're just easy to speak to you know you you you you've got it all together and
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    | text      = and uh it's fun right you're having a lot of fun right yeah yeah i appreciate that what and and
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    | text      = this is pretty much i would say from what i know and i know very little that this is probably a
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    | text      = full-time job doing you know keeping this going yeah yeah making a lot of those bucks
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    | text      = so i mean that's cool i don't begrudge anyone making a living doing what they love to do
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    | text      = having a lot of fun but it's just like are people listening to or people watching this video what
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    | text      = do you mean i mean people actually watch that video the video of kevin interviewing this yeah
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    | text      = i mean not as many as watch the time traveler video right but i mean how could anybody watch
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    | text      = that that wasn't like trying to find out more about seo and fucking viewers like this i don't
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    | text      = know how this is a non-business video at all this gets back to to my point that i made at the
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    | text      = beginning of this which is like i don't really care to attack this online immersive entertainment
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    | text      = kind of thing too much because i'm not fully convinced that most of the people taking in
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    | text      = the time traveler videos actually think that it's real i agree so i'm not super interested in in
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    | text      = like the idea that someone would watch this video of kevin talking to him and it somehow like
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    | text      = debunks the time traveler videos because like hey you guys keep talking about social media engagement
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    | text      = a lot this is weird right right right i don't feel like that's like even a concern it's more
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    | text      = about kevin i know i i agree i'm i mean more like i don't understand that kevin has no idea
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    | text      = what's and what an entertaining interview is no like no clue which might explain his lack of
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    | text      = right so so it's like an entertaining interview would be much more focused on hard-hitting
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    | text      = questions about these time travelers or even less hard-hitting questions about these time travelers
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    | text      = more wild speculations and enjoying and having a fun time like on project camelot carrie's great
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    | text      = skill as an interviewer is being wild along with everybody else sure and getting crazy you know
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    | text      = extent not like being like okay eddie page what's your hit count on an average twitter post right
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    | text      = right you know that would certainly be less entertaining that would be less entertaining
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    | text      = which isn't to say that carrie is very entertaining i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna say that um so
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    | text      = yeah i don't know i'm gonna skip this clip because it's kind of sad it's just uh kevin talking about
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    | text      = how apex tv has a team how can you trust them really i'm like i have to work alone i really
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    | text      = hate kevin i really hate him like at a deep and abiding level he's a piece of shit i don't i yeah
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    | text      = i mean there's there is a piece of shitness to him there's a real slipperiness yeah but i also
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    | text      = think that there is just a he's not very good at this right he wants to do this and i think he's
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    | text      = dumb yeah i think that there are those elements of it um and a lot of it a lot of that could explain
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    | text      = some of the stuff that comes off as slipperiness yeah evilness there could be a lot less evil
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    | text      = intention that could be explained by incompetence and kind of being gullible and sure sure sure
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    | text      = sure i don't know i i think though even with those qualities it's very clear there's also
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    | text      = a naked capitalist behind all of this uh yeah exactly so yeah one last clip here and it's just
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    | text      = how they uh sort of end things but listen i really appreciate what you're doing i think it's
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    | text      = fascinating stuff and you know uh good on you for doing it that's all i'll say good on you wow i
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    | text      = appreciate what you're doing good on you also i just hate hearing him fucking talking and everything
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    | text      = is like uh yeah there's a lot of that uh good well i mean that's part of not preparing at all
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    | text      = you don't have any questions that's fair i would say that that is a terrible showing yeah the idea
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    | text      = that he ends it with like i appreciate what you're doing good on you for what you're doing on you
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    | text      = he said in this fucking interview that he talked to a guy who claimed to be a mermaid yes and that
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    | text      = some of the people who are time travelers are clearly lying to him good on you i don't understand
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    | text      = if you want to just be like we are doing a large scale uh immersive entertainment thing yeah where
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    | text      = people lie to us and then we pass it off as truth i'm not i'm not all that mad at that yeah but
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    | text      = kevin's trying to not play that game yeah so he shouldn't be taking somebody who appears to be
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    | text      = doing like larping yeah bullshit i was just i was just saying it's almost like a fiction it's almost
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    | text      = like they're larping a channel that should exist in an alternate universe you know what i'm saying
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    | text      = like where where where this shit is true that's where they're larping at it's unbecoming for kevin
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    | text      = to be this uncritical um i i whatever judgment decide that i have for whatever apex is doing
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    | text      = i have strong judgment for kevin because like you can't be you can't do both you can't you
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    | text      = can't try and take down mark richards because he's an affront to the community right and and
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    | text      = appreciate and applaud what uh fake time travel bullshit clickbait nonsense youtube channel is
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    | text      = doing yeah like you can't exist in both of those spaces it leads me to believe that something is
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    | text      = insincere and based on everything else i have all the other information of kevin between uh his
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    | text      = weirdo channeling videos right um other videos that i've watched of his where he is woefully
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    | text      = uncritical of other people yeah the anomaly is the being critical of mark richards and carrie yeah
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    | text      = and because we have a long-standing uh interaction quote-unquote with uh project kabalot
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    | text      = i feel like i'm the only person who cares enough to try and figure this out
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    | text      = so jordan i would like to announce here and now i am going to make a documentary about kevin more
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    | text      = oh god i'm not gonna do that you are absolutely right i'm not gonna do that but i'm going to look
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    | text      = into this much further because you are the only person who is fucking deep in the weeds enough
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    | text      = to really get to the bottom of this feud and the only person who has any kind of grasp on reality
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    | text      = right because carrie and her friends are too busy trying to say that this guy's working for the
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    | text      = spider leadership in the low of the illuminati right that my friend is a non-starter are you
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    | text      = sure that's okay that's anywhere well talk to a time traveler maybe he'll figure it out for us
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    | text      = i can't go down that okay that's not going all right that's not going to be good one try so this
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    | text      = is something that i need to get to the bottom of i'm gonna get into this i'm gonna i'm gonna
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    | text      = try and solve this mystery of why kevin more cares so much about this yeah i think the the fun part
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    | text      = of this is far more than any kind of proof of them lying or like carrie's bullshit about space not
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    | text      = being true getting to the bottom of this weird personal or professional fight between the two
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    | text      = of them has a far greater likelihood of like puncturing their their mystique bubbles of space
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    | text      = weirdness if you just go down to it and you're like oh his mom hates her dad like their stepdad
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    | text      = and that's montagues and capulets yeah yeah exactly and you're like okay well then fucking
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    | text      = these two idiots what are we doing and that's real yeah like exactly it's reinvigorating my
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    | text      = interest in things a little bit because it actually is something that like maybe you could
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    | text      = get to the bottom of what the fuck's going on here i'm never going to be able to tell you whether
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    | text      = spider aliens are real or not we can safely say there's no evidence for that right but this is
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    | text      = this does seem like something i could maybe dig into yeah i do feel reinvigorated about the project
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    | text      = camelot uh slash kevin more world i do not about the project camelot videos that content i'm still
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    | text      = very disinterested in right right but trying to intrigue i'm gonna put on my goddamn hercule
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    | text      = pauro mustache yeah yeah get to the bottom of this um so that uh is something else i'll be
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    | text      = engaging in behind the scenes um i hope you all have enjoyed this halloween spectacular
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    | text      = nobody dressed like a mermaid one guy one guy i may have was a mermaid yeah i think somebody
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    | text      = dressed up as a critical investigative journalist oh man his costume might as well have just been
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    | text      = all cardboard more more should really try channeling like birch and russell or something
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    | text      = like that you know should try and uh channel uh any any uh person who asks a follow-up question
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    | text      = that would be good i'll even go with dan rather sure he's dead right i don't know when did nelson
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    | text      = mandela die it was last week i remember it being last week strange so uh we'll be back on friday
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    | text      = jordan indeed with a modern day alex jones episode check in what his dumb ass is doing
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    | text      = what his impeachment shit is moving along oh god so we'll see uh but uh until then we have a website
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    | text      = we do have a website it is knowledgefight.com that's right we're also on twitter we are it is
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    | text      = at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed jordan you can find us on facebook you could find
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    | text      = us on facebook you could go to itunes download review the show give us all that stuff you could
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    | text      = go to other podcasts uh you know go to the places where you listen to podcasts you'll find us yeah
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    | text      = for sure uh but uh we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am a mermaid andy
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    | text      = in kansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan
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    | text      = i love your work i love you you
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