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    | title         = [[280: Raptor Weddings and Sardinian Spiders]]
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    | episodeNumber = [[280: Raptor Weddings and Sardinian Spiders|280]]
    | length        = 02:22:14
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    | text      = Andy and Chansis, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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    | text      = Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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    | text      = Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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    | text      = I'm Jordan.
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    | text      = We're a couple dudes. We like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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    | text      = Jordan.
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    | text      = Dan!
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    | text      = Jordan.
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    | text      = When was the last time you got a slice of pizza?
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    | text      = I got-
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    | text      = Just a slice.
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    | text      = I got one last night.
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    | text      = You got just a slice? You got one slice?
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    | text      = Yeah, went out for a slice. Yep, I did.
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    | text      = I was walking around. I had to go clear out some stuff from my old apartment.
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    | text      = Finishing up moving, because when you move and you're done, it's never really done.
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    | text      = And so I was walking back and I spotted a pizza place that I like along the way.
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    | text      = And I went in and got a slice and it was pretty good.
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    | text      = Nice, nice.
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    | text      = It wasn't as good as I remembered it, but it was pretty good.
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    | text      = Have you ever had a bocce slice?
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    | text      = I have, they're too big.
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    | text      = They are huge.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = And don't forget, terrible.
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    | text      = Yeah, they're not good.
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    | text      = They're garbage.
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    | text      = Bocce is a place that has cafeteria pizza.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Is what it is here in Chicago.
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    | text      = If you want a lot, and it comes with a free drink also, which is not a bonus.
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    | text      = The whole thing costs $3 and a lifetime of regret.
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    | text      = I think it's probably just for drunk people down in Wrigleyville.
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    | text      = That's mostly what that bocce location is for.
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    | text      = Not great pizza. Don't recommend it if you come to Chicago.
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    | text      = Plenty of other options.
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    | text      = Jordan, today-
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    | text      = What's today?
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    | text      = We're doing a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Oh yeah? I only know what you're telling me about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = It doesn't matter, because we're doing Wacky Wednesday on Friday today.
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    | text      = Yay!
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    | text      = Like I said, I had to go clear out a bunch of stuff from this old apartment.
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    | text      = And also, I've rejoined the gym near my house.
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    | text      = And I've been getting back into the routine of going to the gym.
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    | text      = Started taking a Pilates class.
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    | text      = Love it.
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    | text      = Which is-
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    | text      = Still don't understand it.
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    | text      = Out of character as hell.
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    | text      = But, you know, so there's still some adjustment to the move happening.
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    | text      = And I felt like a good way for us to get back into a good natural rhythm.
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    | text      = And a good fun time would be to have a little trip down to Project Camelot land.
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    | text      = Love it.
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    | text      = Because, Jordan-
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    | text      = This old apartment was Bob Vila, right?
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    | text      = Mm-hmm.
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    | text      = This old house.
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    | text      = Oh, okay. Never mind.
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    | text      = Today, Carrie Cassidy has gone back to prison and interviewed Mark Richards.
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    | text      = That could go either way.
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    | text      = She could have gone back to prison just regularly.
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    | text      = She wasn't in prison to begin with, so she's gonna go back.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = But she went to go interview Mark Richards for her tenth time.
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    | text      = Captain Mark Richards.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = And so here is an out of context drop from today's show.
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    | text      = Clones are not reliable.
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    | text      = I agree.
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    | text      = I agree.
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    | text      = Can't trust them, clones.
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    | text      = I love this.
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    | text      = I love it.
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    | text      = That's a-
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    | text      = I love it so much.
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    | text      = She's making a very important point, you know, beneath all that.
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    | text      = And that is that you can't rely on a clone.
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    | text      = That's not to say that you can't trust them.
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    | text      = It means that you can't rely on them.
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    | text      = Well, like, obviously your clone would never have helped you move.
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    | text      = No, certainly not.
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    | text      = No, of course not. It's not his responsibility.
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    | text      = No, it would have left a bunch of shit in the apartment when we got out.
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    | text      = Yeah, absolutely.
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    | text      = It's unreliable clones to have.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = But you know what?
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    | text      = There's some people who aren't clones.
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    | text      = And I believe that we should start this episode off by giving a shout out to these non-clones who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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    | text      = Very reliable.
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    | text      = Very reliable, these non-clones.
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    | text      = So first, I'd like to say thank you to Amy.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you, Amy.
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    | text      = Thank you, Amy.
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    | text      = Next, Natalie, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you, Natalie.
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    | text      = Thank you very much, Natalie.
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    | text      = Next, Darren, thank you so much.
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    | text      = You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you, Darren.
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    | text      = Thank you very much, Darren.
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    | text      = Next, someone who donated on a little bit of an elevated level.
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    | text      = We appreciate it oh so very much.
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    | text      = So, Sean, thank you so much. You are now a globalist.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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    | text      = Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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    | text      = Daddy shark, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.
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    | text      = Thank you, Sean.
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    | text      = Thank you very much, Sean.
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    | text      = And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on a little bit of an elevated level above that.
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    | text      = Uh-oh.
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    | text      = We appreciate that so very much.
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    | text      = So, Jay, thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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    | text      = Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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    | text      = Daddy shark, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.
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    | text      = Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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    | text      = He's a loser little, little kitty baby.
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    | text      = Thank you so much, Jay.
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    | text      = Thank you very much, Jay.
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    | text      = Uh, if you're listening out there and you're thinking, I like what these guys do, I'd like to support the show, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,
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    | text      = clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it because it makes all our dreams come true.
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    | text      = It allows me to take a Pilates class in this apartment and talk about Carrie Cassidy going to prison to interview Mark Richards.
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    | text      = And let's be clear, we are a clone positive show.
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    | text      = We are a clone agnostic podcast.
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    | text      = We have no stated position on clones.
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    | text      = So Jordan, today, this is super interesting.
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    | text      = This is a very different sort of vibe here on Project Camelot.
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    | text      = Well, the audio sounded weird.
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    | text      = I wanted to bring that up.
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    | text      = This audio stinks.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I don't know what's going on.
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    | text      = I don't know why Carrie's audio is very different, but it is.
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    | text      = And we're just going to have to deal with that.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = There's no way for me to clean it up and I wouldn't even if I could.
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    | text      = No, of course not.
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    | text      = I'm not putting more work into this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I already spent forever preparing this episode.
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    | text      = It's not your fault.
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    | text      = Fuck Carrie.
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    | text      = She better do the work.
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    | text      = Now, there's other big news.
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    | text      = Carrie has a new graphic that looks like something out of a, I don't know, 1993 PC video game.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = I like it.
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    | text      = She's got lemmings going on.
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    | text      = It's lemmings adjacent in terms of quality.
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    | text      = You remember those old Star Wars licensed games on the computer?
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    | text      = Oh, yeah.
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    | text      = Oh, absolutely.
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    | text      = It's like a triangular spacecraft coming in pretty strong.
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    | text      = And there's also a disclaimer.
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    | text      = No, because it scrolls through, again, much like Star Trek.
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    | text      = It's just visual.
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    | text      = Quote, because of the convoluted nature of the case against Mark and the fact that he
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    | text      = The murder, convoluted.
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    | text      = The defense, convoluted.
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    | text      = The case against him, pretty clean.
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    | text      = Straightforward.
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    | text      = So because of the convoluted nature of the case against Mark and the fact that as a journalist
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    | text      = I'm not allowed to use a recording device of any kind, not audio or video, during the
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    | text      = interviews, I'm forced to rely on a dull pencil to scribble notes at the same time as asking
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    | text      = I mainly depend on my memory for reporting what Mark says during our interview.
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    | text      = Rent lag.
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    | text      = It's entirely possible for me to get some things wrong or even just slightly incorrect.
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    | text      = Even in the disclaimer she has to brag?
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = When it comes to any inaccuracies, I take full responsibility and simply ask you understand
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    | text      = the constraints within which I work.
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    | text      = Lastly, any statements about individuals mentioned here are based on statements by Mark Richards.
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    | text      = then quoted below, nor for their accuracy.
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    | text      = I've asked Mark Richards to follow up an overview of the case as he remembers it to supplement
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    | text      = This should be very helpful to augment my effort below.
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    | text      = Once I receive this written report, I will include them here.
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    | text      = That is way too long of a disclaimer to basically say, uh, nothing that you're about to see
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    | text      = here is probably true at all, and also please don't sue me.
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    | text      = That led me to believe, like, oh, she's going to defame somebody.
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    | text      = Mark Richards has to have called somebody a lizard who might come after him.
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    | text      = We have some pedophile accusations coming up.
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    | text      = Ooh, there it is.
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    | text      = So this, like, disclaimer plays.
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    | text      = I'm like, that was too long.
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    | text      = And then guess what?
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    | text      = There's another wall of text.
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    | text      = A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
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    | text      = It might as well be because it just gives Mark's backstory.
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    | text      = And I'm realizing that we have a lot of new listeners who come along, and a lot of them
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    | text      = may not have heard our back episodes covering Carrie Cassidy's visits down to prison to
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    | text      = interview a space weirdo.
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    | text      = One of my favorite recurring situations.
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    | text      = So I guess it'd probably be in everyone's benefit to speed, you know, get everyone up
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    | text      = to speed on the story a little bit.
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    | text      = Thanks, Carrie.
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    | text      = So here is the completely non-skeptical version of the story that Carrie presents.
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    | text      = OK.
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    | text      = Quote, for over 30 years, Captain Mark Richards has been, and still is, a prisoner of the
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    | text      = war between on and off planet races that have dominated Earth for centuries.
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    | text      = He's an honorable officer in the Navy who, because of his rebellion against the Draco
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    | text      = and Reptoids, in parentheses, the Luciferian Alliance.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = He's considered a threat to their operations.
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    | text      = He was framed for a murder he is accused of having masterminded while he was on a mission
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    | text      = off planet in service to humanity.
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    | text      = He was in the space A team.
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    | text      = He was captain of a starship Enterprise type vessel, fighting the war against aliens bent
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    | text      = on the takeover of planet Earth.
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    | text      = I am the only journalist who has interviewed him in person while he's been in prison.
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    | text      = Point of order, the starship Enterprise was not a warship.
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    | text      = But they weren't out there to do battle.
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    | text      = No, no, no, their job was exploration.
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    | text      = They were supposed to go further than man has ever gone, not fight Draco.
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    | text      = Right, and not engage with things on weird levels.
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    | text      = So that's like, I was already exhausted by the time I got through all that text.
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    | text      = Love it.
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    | text      = I was like, what the fuck?
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    | text      = And that's all before we even get to this point of all of our episodes.
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    | text      = Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
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    | text      = Hi Carrie!
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    | text      = I'm here to discuss my latest interview with Captain Mark Richards of the secret space
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    | text      = program, or space command as some people call it.
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    | text      = I...
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    | text      = Fine, there's two names.
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    | text      = I actually kind of like the audio now.
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    | text      = It sounds like she's reporting from a bunker somewhere.
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    | text      = You know, like she's gone into hiding.
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    | text      = It's, something's up.
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    | text      = I don't know what it is.
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    | text      = Maybe she was recording from a backup computer or something like that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Or she dropped her computer in the tub.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = There's some excuse for this.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = It's not forthcoming.
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    | text      = And also the audio changes a little bit, and so like, get ready for like maybe six of these
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    | text      = Fascinating.
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    | text      = Just know that that's not your headphones, if you're listening out there.
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    | text      = So, in this next clip, again it's a little bit more backstory.
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    | text      = It's sort of Carrie talking about how she's been talking to Mark forever.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = And how, why can he say secret shit that other people can't say?
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Why is that?
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    | text      = She does not mention that it is because it's not true.
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    | text      = No, that's not her angle.
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    | text      = That's not her, okay.
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    | text      = That's my angle.
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    | text      = Gotcha.
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    | text      = I am an investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, and I have been visiting Mark for
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    | text      = around five years, approximately once every six months, and doing an in-depth interview
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    | text      = with him about the secret space program.
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    | text      = And because he is in prison, this gives him the ability and leeway to discuss what is
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    | text      = in essence way above top secret, and I believe the government allows him to talk simply because
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    | text      = they believe he is discredited by the fact that he has been imprisoned for a murder he
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    | text      = did not commit.
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    | text      = I mean, I agree with the premise that he's discredited.
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    | text      = Yeah, no, no, no.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = 100%.
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    | text      = 100%.
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    | text      = That's not news.
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    | text      = We've heard her say that before, but again, this is just good getting up to speed kind
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    | text      = of stuff.
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    | text      = So whatever bullshit she's going to spin about these aliens and Mark's nonsense, that is
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    | text      = why he can say these things, is because the government gave him clearance to do it because
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    | text      = he's in prison, and they know that everyone will just see him as the crazy dude in prison,
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    | text      = which we do.
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    | text      = That's right.
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    | text      = That doesn't sound right.
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    | text      = Generally speaking, when the government sees somebody, even if they are in prison telling
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    | text      = the truth, they go, let's call it Chelsea Manning all over them.
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    | text      = Seems like it.
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    | text      = They go hard.
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    | text      = Right, right.
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    | text      = Even if they are in prison.
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    | text      = So this episode of Kerry's Mark Richards interview series is a little bit unlike all the rest
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    | text      = It's different in that for whatever reason, Kerry decides to get into the details of why
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    | text      = Mark is in prison on this episode.
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    | text      = What?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Oh no.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Oh no.
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    | text      = She's going to spin an absurd yarn that reinforces her narrative that he was off planet at the
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    | text      = In so many of their past rodeos, we've just been able to listen and laugh at the nonsense
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    | text      = about raptor aliens killing people for chocolate and making cameos in Jurassic World and spider
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    | text      = leadership, all that fun stuff.
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    | text      = I forgot the Jurassic World cameos.
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    | text      = They're all laughing at you.
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    | text      = That is gold.
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    | text      = You go watch Jurassic World, they're laughing at you because that's a real raptor.
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    | text      = That's a real raptor there.
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    | text      = Not all of them though.
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    | text      = Not all of them, just some.
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    | text      = This episode is very different because in this episode Kerry is repeating lies about
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    | text      = something that actually happened in the real world and as such, I can research that.
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    | text      = Oh, that's why we've got the disclaimer here.
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    | text      = No, she gives a disclaimer for, we'll get to why.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = But the fact that I can look into these things is not good news for the story that he was
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    | text      = off planet and thus couldn't have masterminded a murder because he totally masterminded a
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    | text      = Couldn't you just get credit card receipts from around the day just to prove that he
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = The secret space program.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = So in this next clip, Kerry gets into some of the details and the particulars about the
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    | text      = murder that Mark Richards 100% orchestrated.
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    | text      = Yeah, totally.
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    | text      = And it's not good because she gets some really base facts wrong, just like provable facts
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    | text      = wrong so that this isn't good.
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    | text      = He is said to be the mastermind of a so-called murder of an individual called Richard Baldwin
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    | text      = and that murder was committed by two young boys at the time of the age of 18 and Richard
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    | text      = Baldwin has been documented to be a pedophile.
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    | text      = Whoa.
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    | text      = That last part I think might be why there's a disclaimer because there isn't documentation
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    | text      = that he was a pedophile.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = I can find no evidence of that if he was and great.
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    | text      = You can say those things about him if you have that evidence.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = But I can see no evidence of it other than it just being asserted and that's not good.
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    | text      = Yeah, that's usually not an issue though in 2019.
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    | text      = You can pretty much say whatever you want.
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    | text      = Kind of.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So now the factual problem is that Crossan Hoover and this guy, Andrew, whose last name
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    | text      = I'm not going to use because he was a minor and he wasn't charged with a crime.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = The two of them were both 17, not 18.
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    | text      = Gotcha.
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    | text      = So the age is wrong.
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    | text      = If she doesn't even know that and it is a big difference because the difference between
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    | text      = 17 and 18 in terms of the legal system for federal offenses.
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    | text      = Kind of a big deal.
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    | text      = It does matter.
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    | text      = And so the fact that she's fucking up that is not good.
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    | text      = That's pretty bad.
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    | text      = Well, I assume that she's not fucking it up so much as just repeating verbatim what Mark
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    | text      = But Mark should know that too.
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    | text      = Well, yeah, but Mark doesn't give a fuck.
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    | text      = And Mark would probably say they were 18 anyways for the same reason that you just described.
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    | text      = So it doesn't make it look like he's influencing minors to do stuff.
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    | text      = Instead, he's just influencing minors to do stuff like get coal and all of that stuff.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It's a mess.
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    | text      = We'll get into some of his weirdness as we go along.
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    | text      = I read a lot for this episode.
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    | text      = I doubt she did.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = She doesn't know the ages of the murderer and the guy who went and burgled Richard's
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    | text      = Yeah, she didn't even bother with listening to the dollop on it.
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    | text      = We'll get into a lot of the details of this.
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    | text      = There is a slight overlap with some of the stuff that is in the episode with the dollop,
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    | text      = the Pendragon episode, but they didn't go into all of the angles of the case necessarily.
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    | text      = So there's a lot of stuff that won't be overlapped, let's say.
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    | text      = So in this next clip, Carrie starts talking about how this is all just really an attack
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    | text      = on Mark's good name that's been going on.
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    | text      = Oh, of course.
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    | text      = His good name.
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    | text      = They're trying to besmirch him.
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    | text      = This particular interview is concerned with the case and some of the things that Mark
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    | text      = wanted to bring forward about the cut case that are not out there.
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    | text      = There's been some interest in the public and in various sectors and with a specific
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    | text      = group that is attempting to discredit both Joanne Richards and Mark Richards as well
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    | text      = as myself.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = At this point, I really thought she was talking about us.
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    | text      = I was like, that sounds like us.
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    | text      = That does sound like us.
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    | text      = I definitely tried to discredit all of you.
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    | text      = No, no, no.
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    | text      = I'm taking all of you on.
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    | text      = I was ready for her to be like, it's a podcast out of Chicago.
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    | text      = It's not.
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    | text      = It's a British dude.
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    | text      = Oh.
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    | text      = Goddamn Brits.
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    | text      = In regard to the Mark Richards case, and so we are making an added effort here to reach
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    | text      = the public with the accurate information.
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    | text      = You're doing a bad job.
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    | text      = So, there's this British guy who we'll talk about a little bit later and he is going to
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    | text      = release a docuseries about the murder.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = About Baldwin's murder.
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    | text      = That sounds interesting.
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    | text      = I would watch that.
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    | text      = He recently released a trailer for it that I watched and I recommend everybody go watch
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    | text      = it.
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    | text      = It looks awesome.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Because he talks to people across the spectrum of like, he talks to Mark Richards' ex-wife
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    | text      = from the time like back when the murder happened.
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    | text      = Uh-huh.
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    | text      = He talks to Crossen Hoover, the guy who actually did the murder.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He talks to people who knew Mark in college.
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    | text      = He talks to family members of the victim of Baldwin.
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    | text      = He talks to someone, at least like from the trailer.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = These people are all featured in the trailer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Someone else who is like a pen pal of Mark's in prison.
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    | text      = Uh-huh.
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    | text      = And she's like obscured her identity for privacy and stuff.
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    | text      = Yeah, of course.
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    | text      = But she's talking about how he's a total fraud and like he...
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It's brutal.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I take it they didn't talk to Kerry.
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    | text      = Here's the thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Oh, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They did.
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    | text      = Yes!
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    | text      = Yes!
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    | text      = So it's an entire like, the trailer is an entire string of people being like, uh, like...
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    | text      = Oh, he did that shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark's ex-wife being like, his behavior changed right after the murder.
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    | text      = He became very weird and completely different.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Crossen Hoover being like, yeah, I mean, Mark told me to finish the job.
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    | text      = Like he was standing right next to me when I did it and all this stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Wow.
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    | text      = And then it cuts to Kerry and she's sitting there next to him and she's like, no, he is
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    | text      = innocent.
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    | text      = He is working with the raptors.
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    | text      = It's just like, oh, no.
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    | text      = I like it.
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    | text      = So that's who Kerry is talking about right there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He was trying to discredit Mark and Joanne and her.
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    | text      = And it's like, yes, yeah, you kind of...
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    | text      = The truth has a way of discrediting you.
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    | text      = That's so much fun.
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    | text      = I love that.
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    | text      = Why did...
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    | text      = I cannot wait for it to come out.
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    | text      = Why did they have...
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    | text      = I can't wait on so many... any true crime documentary should have Kerry now.
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    | text      = Making a murderer sucks now because it didn't have Kerry insisting that the government was
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    | text      = run by raptors.
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    | text      = I would be very interested to get her in more contexts.
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    | text      = I'm not going to disagree with you on that.
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    | text      = Oh, absolutely.
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    | text      = Yeah, I look forward to that highly.
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    | text      = And I've forgotten that guy's name, but I have it in my notes because he comes up later.
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    | text      = And so we'll get to reference to that here in a little bit.
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    | text      = In this next clip, Kerry talks about how she knows that Mark is legit.
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    | text      = She just knows because she has a certain set of skills.
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    | text      = Oh, no.
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    | text      = I can also testify to the fact that as an investigative journalist specializing in above
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    | text      = top secret information from whistleblowers, that I believe I am an excellent judge of
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    | text      = character.
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    | text      = And in this case, I can say that without any hesitation that Mark Richards is absolutely
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    | text      = who he claims to be.
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    | text      = Smash cut to pictures of Eddie Page.
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    | text      = Smash cut to, I mean, Jessica Schaub, the reverse of that.
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    | text      = Like she's a better person than Kerry assessed her to be.
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    | text      = But like she is a terrible judge of people's character.
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    | text      = She has no idea.
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    | text      = The absolute worst.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And it's hard to find a statement that wrong.
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    | text      = That entire statement is wall to wall incorrect.
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    | text      = Spiritually, factually, intent wise.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = There's just nothing.
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    | text      = Everything about it.
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    | text      = It's lousy from a T to B. Top to bottom.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = Pile of trash.
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    | text      = But it pales in comparison to this next clip.
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    | text      = I feel like we're going to hear that a lot.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So we're not going to get to the murder just yet.
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    | text      = As Kerry's introduced it, we've seen that she does not have a good grasp of just factual
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = But what's interesting is Mark has an arch nemesis, it turns out, that we didn't know
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    | text      = about.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Now I'm in.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I'm glad to hear about this nemesis.
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    | text      = And this is a real guy.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = I'm going to guess he has no idea who Mark Richards is.
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    | text      = Or at least he never did have an idea who Mark Richards is because he's been dead for
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    | text      = a while.
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    | text      = Well, naturally.
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    | text      = There are some key takeaways from this interview.
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    | text      = First of all, Mark and his father's arch enemy, according to Mark, was James Jesus
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    | text      = Angleton.
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    | text      = And this is also the case for Kennedy.
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    | text      = According to Mark, Angleton was instrumental in the death of John F. Kennedy and the framing
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    | text      = of Captain Mark Richards.
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    | text      = That was the only one that I knew.
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    | text      = That was the one I knew for effect.
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    | text      = Of course it was James who killed JFK.
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    | text      = Angel Angleton.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Who is this guy?
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    | text      = He had no inner intelligence for the CIA until 1975.
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    | text      = Ah.
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    | text      = But he was retired by the time Mark was, I don't know, 14?
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    | text      = I was going to say.
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    | text      = Mark was 29 in 1982 and he committed that murder.
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    | text      = And so what would it have been in 75?
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    | text      = That would have been seven years earlier?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It would have been like 22 when this dude retired from the CIA.
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    | text      = Well, that was the first time that he finally had the chance to engage with his father's
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    | text      = nemesis.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This is a multi-generational fight across this.
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    | text      = Oh, that's a good point.
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    | text      = I imagine that the guy has a son, right?
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    | text      = Angleton?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And actually two of his daughters came under the sway of a guru.
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    | text      = I want more details than everybody.
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    | text      = It's such a side issue that I didn't look into it.
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    | text      = But on his Wikipedia page, in the personal life section, two of his daughters have converted
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    | text      = to following a swami.
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    | text      = Cool.
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    | text      = I like it.
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    | text      = Cool.
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    | text      = I like it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The autobiography of a yogi.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I've read it.
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    | text      = I'm going to tell you this right now.
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    | text      = I don't give a shit about this.
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    | text      = In terms of stuff that I care about in Mark's story, the idea that he was set up by the
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    | text      = CIA and this guy also was instrumental in killing Kennedy, it's too much.
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    | text      = It's honestly too much.
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    | text      = I don't understand.
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    | text      = It doesn't matter.
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    | text      = I'm more frustrated because I don't know where the Dutchman is in all of this.
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    | text      = The Dutchman had to have been alive when JFK was...
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    | text      = That's the Dutchman.
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    | text      = That's his dad.
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    | text      = No, his dad was...
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    | text      = I thought his grandfather was the Dutchman.
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    | text      = Dutchman is his dad.
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    | text      = Dutchman is his dad?
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    | text      = Oh, okay.
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    | text      = Two of them fought side by side at the Battle of Dulce.
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    | text      = You know that.
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    | text      = That's right.
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    | text      = That's right.
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    | text      = I apologize for getting...
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I apologize for forgetting.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = No, that's...
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    | text      = Ellis is the Dutchman.
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    | text      = Ellis is the Dutchman.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:24:39.000
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We have his real name now because it does come up in some of the news articles about
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    | text      = his son's murder.
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    | text      = Yeah, that does sound right.
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    | text      = Of his son doing a murder.
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    | text      = About his son murdering.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = I got you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = His dad was a major in the services.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He was actually a military man and all that stuff, but all the rest of it seems ludicrous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = His whole backstory is complete horseshit.
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    | text      = But the reason that I don't care about this is I don't want to spend the next, I don't
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    | text      = know, days of my life trying to figure out if this Angleton killed Kennedy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I don't want to do that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:25:16.000
    | text      = I think the work has been put in already.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But that's a waste of my time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = And then further, I don't really care to do some sort of a thing where I'm defending the
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    | text      = CIA.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Or anything like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Absolutely not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Especially with the CIA in the 70s and 80s.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm fine with them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I don't care.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Blame them for killing Kennedy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm cool with that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's just trying to hitch his wagon to that team of anti-CIA-
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I was going to say.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It sounds more like he just read a book about the JFK assassination.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Was like, oh man, I got to piggyback on that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Why haven't I already been doing that?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So that's one of the takeaways is that the Angleton who killed Kennedy is responsible
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = for Mark being set up and put in prison.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Instead of Mark orchestrating a murder and really fucking up the cover up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:02.000
    | text      = Yeah, that would be a bad idea.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But there's two more takeaways that Kerry has and here's the first one.
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    | text      = The second takeaway, major takeaway from this interview is that there are six alien-derived
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:13.000
    | text      = AIs currently messing with Earth and they do not have our best interests in mind.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = She doesn't elaborate on this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I like the way she puts it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:26.000
    | text      = They're messing with Earth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:28.000
    | text      = It's not like they're malicious.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:32.000
    | text      = They're just fucking around.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:36.000
    | text      = Aliens developed an AI with a sense of humor.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:39.000
    | text      = They developed Tom Green as an AI.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:42.000
    | text      = Their bum is on the Swedish or something.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:46.000
    | text      = Yeah, I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:47.000
    | text      = I really wish I knew more about what she was talking about, but it is not elaborated on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:52.000
    | text      = It's just thrown out there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:53.000
    | text      = It does come back up later, but not with any greater details.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:56.000
    | text      = Except that this AI is alien in nature, I guess.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Why do they need six?
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    | text      = Do they have names?
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    | text      = Some of them are competing.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = The six of them are somehow, some are on some team, some are on others.
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    | text      = But they're all messing with us.
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    | text      = I love it.
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    | text      = Banish.
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    | text      = Just toss it in there.
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    | text      = So the next takeaway, it's not really, I don't think she lists it as a takeaway, but I think
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    | text      = it's a takeaway.
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    | text      = And maybe it's just because I took a Pilates class and I'm going back to the gym.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = But it's always great to hear that Mark is getting healthy.
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    | text      = Oh good.
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    | text      = Update on prison life and Mark's health.
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    | text      = His health has markedly improved.
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    | text      = He's in training for a new job.
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    | text      = He's head of the optical lab that supplies all eyewear for Medicaid.
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    | text      = It is a highly technical job supervising around 100 men as well as a number of robots that
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    | text      = He is also being trained on computers.
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    | text      = The last time he was around computers on a job in prison was where they were using very
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    | text      = old software, he says.
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    | text      = He's also teaching a screenwriting class and a group of inmates have 30 finished screenplays
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    | text      = that he believes might become the basis for a TV series not unlike Breaking Bad or Orange
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    | text      = is the New Black.
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    | text      = Yup.
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    | text      = Yup.
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    | text      = Now that's a good fit.
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    | text      = That's a good fit.
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    | text      = I like that.
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    | text      = That's where I put him in prison.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Have him teach a screenwriting class.
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    | text      = That's great.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He's clearly been able to work, like pull a yarn here for this story for a really long
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I think that maybe he would need some editors or like a workshop setting to get some of
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    | text      = these plot holes out of there that we've stumbled into over and over and over again.
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    | text      = Might need a little bit of punch up.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So that's great.
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    | text      = I mean he's getting some creative stuff going, screenplays.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That class has 30 completed screenplays.
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    | text      = 30.
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    | text      = I want to get my hands on those.
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    | text      = I want one at least.
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    | text      = I beg of Mark to send them to us so we can do a staged dramatic reading of them.
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    | text      = We will.
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    | text      = We will.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Guaranteed.
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    | text      = We will do everything we can to get you an agent.
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    | text      = We don't have agents.
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    | text      = No, no, no, no.
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    | text      = But we'll get you one.
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    | text      = Yeah, for sure.
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    | text      = Yeah, absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sometimes you have to sacrifice for the greater good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Getting trained on computers, which is good.
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    | text      = That's nice.
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    | text      = So we move on.
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    | text      = In this next clip, Carrie gets into the murder and I will be able to discuss this more in
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    | text      = depth and where her lies are because she is way off base in terms of like reality.
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    | text      = And oh man, I read a lot of stuff.
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    | text      = Good for him for bringing in some eyewear to everybody on Medicaid.
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    | text      = Providing all of it.
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    | text      = All of it.
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    | text      = Bullshit.
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    | text      = By himself.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Bullshit.
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    | text      = Overseeing a team of 100?
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    | text      = I don't think they'd put him in charge of anybody.
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    | text      = I feel like-
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He'd get them to murder people.
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = As we find out about in this next clip.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The murder and the trial.
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    | text      = Mark states that he doesn't really know what happened because he wasn't there.
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    | text      = And the DA was given most or all of his info from this mysterious character whose name
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    | text      = is Andrew Campbell who was supposedly at the scene of the crime, took part in the murder
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    | text      = but was never charged.
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    | text      = So here we have Carrie beginning to try and wade into the waters of discussing how Mark
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    | text      = is innocent of the murder that he's in prison for.
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    | text      = And she does not get off to a strong start.
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    | text      = The first problem is that Mark absolutely was there the night of the murder.
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    | text      = Forensic evidence indicates that he was and his alibi changed repeatedly whenever the
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    | text      = police revealed new details that contradicted his story.
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    | text      = He would have one story and then they'd bring up a detail that they knew and he'd be like,
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    | text      = well, and then he'd try to be like, well, I lied to you about that but it was just because
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    | text      = I was trying to, I didn't want to admit that I had done this innocuous thing that I'm ashamed
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    | text      = of.
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    | text      = That sort of bullshit.
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    | text      = What never changed and what was entirely consistent with forensic evidence and every sworn statement
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    | text      = except Mark's is the confession of Cross and Hoover, the 17-year-old employee of Mark's
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    | text      = failing contracting company who physically killed Richard Baldwin.
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    | text      = In order to explain just how dumb Carrie sounds in that last clip, I need to probably give
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    | text      = you a little refresher course on the actual murder.
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    | text      = On July 6th, 1982, Mark Richards and Cross and Hoover lured Richard Baldwin, allegedly
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    | text      = a good friend of Mark's, to a garage under the pretense of looking at some of his classic
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    | text      = cars.
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    | text      = Baldwin, age 36, owned a vintage car restoration shop called The Classic Car, so he had a bunch
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    | text      = of cool, really rare cars that he was working on in the shop, which makes this ruse not
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    | text      = seem as crazy as it might initially sound.
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    | text      = When they arrived, Mark and Cross both knew they were going to kill and rob Baldwin, ultimately
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    | text      = planning to sell off his cars and machinery to fund a plan to take over Marin County.
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    | text      = I'm intentionally going to ignore that aspect of this, where Mark was planning to create
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    | text      = a kingdom for himself called Pendragon, specifically because Carrie is talking about the court
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    | text      = case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And the court largely ignored Mark's imperial aspirations, mostly because it was completely
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    | text      = unnecessary to prove his guilt.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They were very specific about this isn't really relevant.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = See, this is the problem with the court system.
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    | text      = They do not want to have fun, because they could have had a great time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I know, but it would have been so much more work for no added charge, really.
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    | text      = You already got him on murder.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, but fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Come on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So when they got into the garage, Mark gave Crossen a sign, at which point Crossen hit
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Baldwin multiple times in the head with a baseball bat.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = With a sign?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:44.160
    | text      = Oh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:45.160
    | text      = He didn't give them a physical sign.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = No, no, no, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You misunderstood.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They had murdered comma now on him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No, no, no.
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    | text      = Crossen then stabbed Baldwin in the torso, but his weapon broke off.
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    | text      = According to a recent interview Crossen gave, Mark then gave him a screwdriver and told
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    | text      = him to finish the job.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark isn't a goofy, eccentric space weirdo.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's the sort of cold-blooded monster who can orchestrate and calmly watch someone he
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    | text      = presented as a friend be brutally murdered.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Richard Baldwin was in Mark's wedding.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:12.559
    | text      = Wow.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:13.559
    | text      = They were friends, and he was there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He was in Mark's wedding.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:16.960
    | text      = And handed Crossen Hoover a screwdriver and told him to finish murdering him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:21.720
    | text      = That's crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:22.720
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:23.720
    | text      = He was a psychopath level shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:33:25.599
    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:26.599
    | text      = He was in his wedding.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:27.599
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:28.599
    | text      = Well, I'm not sure to the extent.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:29.599
    | text      = He might have been an usher or something like that, but he was involved in the wedding party.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:33:33.400
    | text      = Even if he was invited to the wedding, you don't kill somebody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:35.960
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:36.960
    | text      = And that was only three years prior.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:37.960
    | text      = Jesus.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So now Mark was charged with first-degree murder and two counts of burglary.
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    | text      = The reason there are two counts of burglary is where the other 17-year-old, Andrew, comes
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    | text      = in.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Prior to the murder, Mark had Andrew stay in Baldwin's house to take an inventory of
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    | text      = things to steal.
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    | text      = That was the extent of Andrew's involvement in the crime, but he probably was aware of
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    | text      = what was going on.
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    | text      = Well, yeah.
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    | text      = The story that Carrie is telling is literally only supported by Mark's word, which is very
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    | text      = Obviously, I thought Mark was a total liar and a douche from the first time we talked
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    | text      = about him, but in preparation for this episode, I read a ton of transcripts, including a 131-page
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    | text      = interview with the police that he gave right after he was arrested.
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    | text      = And I've got to say that knowing what I know now, it's even more embarrassing that Carrie
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    | text      = believes a word that he says.
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    | text      = So he didn't even mention the secret space program in the original interview.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = He doesn't mention...
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    | text      = He's trying to lie so hard in that interview.
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    | text      = It's so embarrassing when you read over it, because the police are just being like, hey
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    | text      = man, we know what happened.
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    | text      = No, no, no, no.
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    | text      = You don't know what happened.
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    | text      = We're giving you a chance.
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    | text      = I'm going to tell you the real story.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Carrie is saying that Andrew was inside and at the scene of the murder, and he wasn't.
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    | text      = He was not.
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    | text      = He was at his house.
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    | text      = He was at Baldwin's house getting the burglary started, which is why there's two charges
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    | text      = of burglary, because they burgled the house and burgled the garage.
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    | text      = So that's a big piece of this.
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    | text      = So these interviews with the police are insane.
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    | text      = So his interview is with two homicide detectives, one from the sheriff's office and one from
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    | text      = San Rafael Police Department.
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    | text      = Throughout the entire thing, the cops are trying to get Mark to understand that they've
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    | text      = completely solved the case, even before entering the room.
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    | text      = They keep trying to stress to him that they're only talking to him because they want to give
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    | text      = him a chance to do the right thing, and he never does.
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    | text      = There's a 131 page interview of them walking in saying, first off, we know what happened.
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    | text      = It starts with implying that they know what happened, and then 30 pages in or so they're
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    | text      = like, I don't believe you.
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    | text      = So they started off with, we're playing the interview interrogation game where we're like,
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    | text      = we know more than you know, and that whole thing.
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    | text      = And then later on, they're just like, dude, fuck off.
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    | text      = We know what happened.
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    | text      = Stop it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We don't even want to be here anymore.
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    | text      = They are talking about how they've been up all night solving the very case they're talking
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    | text      = about.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark's first story is that he knows nothing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He wasn't involved at all, and he hasn't heard anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The cops and Mark go back and forth, and no one's really enjoying themselves until about
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    | text      = page 36 of the interview when the sheriff's detective says, quote, I don't believe you.
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    | text      = I don't believe what you're saying.
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    | text      = I just feel that I'm wasting my time.
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    | text      = And if you and I can't be candid with one another, I think you ought to at least allow
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    | text      = me the opportunity to go back to my office and go to work.
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    | text      = Like that.
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    | text      = That's a solid quote.
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    | text      = And that's 36 pages in?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There are relatively, there's roughly a hundred more to go.
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    | text      = Oh boy.
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    | text      = And up to that point, it's all just them letting him hang himself, like with these lies that
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = So at that point, after that sheriff, that detective says this, the other detective butts
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    | text      = in, he says, quote, in addition to what Rich is saying, I have to tend to agree very strongly
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    | text      = with what you're saying.
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    | text      = These guys are, point of order, I would like to pop in and say, I also think you're an
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    | text      = idiot and I hate you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = These dudes are not even playing good cop, bad cop.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They're playing sick of the bullshit cop and equally sick of the bullshit cop.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They're on such the same page, it's awesome.
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    | text      = So they threatened to leave since Mark is wasting their time and they make it clear
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = to him that if they leave, he isn't going to get another chance to talk to them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = His one opportunity to work with the police will be gone if they leave that room.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So Mark keeps begging them not to leave and each time the cops reach their point of annoyance,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = they say they're going to leave and magically Mark's story starts to change.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Odd.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Odd.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Because he's trying to get, and he keeps saying stuff like, I know that you're going to leave
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and I just, I don't have enough time to convince you that I'm innocent and all this stuff.
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    | text      = They're like, we don't want you to convince us that you're innocent, we want you to tell
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    | text      = the truth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And they keep saying stuff to him like, you understand that there's literally nothing
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = you can say to us that will get you out of this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They keep saying stuff like that and he's like, yeah, I understand.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like you know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = One more thing though.
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    | text      = You know there's not a magic word you can say that will convince us to let you not leave
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    | text      = in handcuffs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Uh, excuse me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:23.880
    | text      = To will king?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:24.880
    | text      = Oh, damn it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's just the judge, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So the detectives at one point are asking Mark about what rumors he's heard on the street
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    | text      = about the murder because he starts by having like this, this angle of like, I didn't, I
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    | text      = didn't, I don't know anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I haven't heard anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But as they threatened to leave and he starts to have this like a shit, I better start pretending
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that I was lying about something earlier in order to adjust my statements.
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    | text      = He starts trying to throw Cross and Hoover under the bus.
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = As he's called a colloquially.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Did he try, did he try the like, I couldn't have done it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I was, I didn't want to tell you cause I was sleeping.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I was cheating on my wife.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He didn't try that one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's a solid one.
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    | text      = No, he doesn't.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I like that lie.
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    | text      = He doesn't do that.
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    | text      = But, uh, so by the time he starts implying that he's heard that Crossie did it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Um, and so, uh, they want to know specifically about the rumors that he's heard on the street
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    | text      = about the murder.
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    | text      = He relates that he heard that Crossie had committed the murder and was telling people
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that Mark was involved and planned it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So Mark is saying that he's aware that that's the story that's going around the street.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I didn't know that earlier though.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Of course not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I just heard that on the streets.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:39:29.199
    | text      = So the exchange that follows is this detective, who'd you hear that from?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:39:33.679
    | text      = Mark?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm not, wait a minute.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm trying to think.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So, you know, uh, I'm sure you already know and I'm not trying to lie.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:39:39.480
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:39:40.480
    | text      = Detective.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:41.480
    | text      = Detective.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:42.480
    | text      = We sure do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And it's not that hard.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They all work for you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:39:47.000
    | text      = Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:49.000
    | text      = Yeah, I know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's so many points like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:51.000
    | text      = They're just like, you are fucking busted.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:39:53.679
    | text      = I am not trying to lie.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:54.880
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:55.880
    | text      = I need you to know that as soon as possible says something that a liar is saying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:00.320
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:40:01.320
    | text      = So there's a great moment on page 76.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This is probably my favorite moment in the entire interview, uh, where the detectives,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:06.760
    | text      = uh, just drop it on him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:08.360
    | text      = It goes like this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:09.360
    | text      = Mark quote, I'm trying, okay, now I appreciate you think I'm feeding you a bunch of crock,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:14.719
    | text      = but uh, and you think that you caught me in two or three or a dozen lies or whatever,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:18.820
    | text      = but I want you to, and then dot, dot, dot detective.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:40:21.679
    | text      = We have Mark, all right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:25.480
    | text      = Gotcha detective.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:26.519
    | text      = We have, and we still gotcha knock on the table and go, you're busted later.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:40:35.440
    | text      = They try and explain the problem to him quote, this is the detective.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:40:39.260
    | text      = You murdered somebody Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The problem is you fucked up too many times and you associated with fools with very immature
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:45.920
    | text      = fools and very dangerous fools.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = To that Mark replies, yeah, there is an acceptance of his own culpability, but he's trying to
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:40:54.159
    | text      = wiggle out of it through the entire hundred 31 pages of this interview and they keep trying
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = to make it clear to him like you are making this worse.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know that we know things and you know that we know that you know things they're
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = trying to, they're not fucking with him or trying to coerce a confession or anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They're just like, I'm, you are really, you're on my last nerve.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But isn't that, isn't that what they say about psychopaths like this is that it, it doesn't
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    | text      = matter.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:41:23.679
    | text      = They, they think they're so much smarter than you that it's like, whatever it is you're
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:41:27.679
    | text      = saying, that's fine, but I am so much smarter than you, I can, I can find a way through
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:41:32.280
    | text      = this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:41:33.280
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 00:41:34.280
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So that interview is really, it was really fascinating because throughout the entire
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    | text      = time that we've been covering Mark and Carrie's interviews, we've never heard his words.
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    | text      = We've really only heard Carrie's interpretation of them and stuff.
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    | text      = And so you could imagine that he's a slick talker and all this stuff turns out he's just
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    | text      = I mean, based on this interview, it seems like it, it's really hard not to walk away
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    | text      = from that thinking like he's not the, he's not a master manipulator.
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    | text      = The people who fall for him are just stupid as shit.
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    | text      = Well he has had almost 40 years to really get the story right this time though.
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    | text      = He still has.
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    | text      = So she talks about in this next clip, Carrie talks about this Andrew gentleman, the 17
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    | text      = year old who was at Baldwin's house while the murder was going on.
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    | text      = And she has an interesting and bad theory about him.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Andrew may be an assumed name.
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    | text      = Joanne Richards, Mark's wife had tracked him down and he lives somewhere in central California.
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    | text      = That's pretty fucked up.
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    | text      = That's no good.
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    | text      = Here's what I would say.
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    | text      = Andrew isn't an assumed name.
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    | text      = That was his name when he was 17 fucking years old and Mark Richards lured him into a murder
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    | text      = plot.
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    | text      = The idea that he was operating under an assumed name is like a junior in high school on the
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    | text      = off chance that he'd have the opportunity to help set up a notable space captain at
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    | text      = the behest of the deep state is completely fucking absurd.
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    | text      = What's not absurd is the idea that in the 30 or so years since the murder, Andrew may
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    | text      = have changed his name because of people like Carrie and Joanne Richards.
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    | text      = Yeah, I would say so.
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    | text      = I don't think that Carrie, I don't think that Carrie should be using Andrew's full name.
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    | text      = He was a minor who wasn't charged with a crime and as such on a legal level, I believe his
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    | text      = privacy should be protected.
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    | text      = His name does appear in legal filings and in news stories from back then, so I know
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    | text      = it's not a secret.
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    | text      = His name appears in Mark's unsuccessful appeal that was filed on April 28th, 1988, but according
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    | text      = to journalistic ethics, I think it's inappropriate to identify him, so I'm going to have bleeped
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = out all the times that she uses his full name, just in case.
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    | text      = Soul breaker.
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    | text      = Something like that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = But what Carrie and Joanne are doing isn't some kind of act of renegade journalism.
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    | text      = This is targeted harassment of a private citizen who almost certainly just wants to live their
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    | text      = life in peace and probably deeply regrets their involvement in this murder.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = 30 years prior.
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    | text      = Yeah, no doubt.
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    | text      = Who wasn't charged with anything and cooperated with the state after the fact, after realizing,
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    | text      = oh shit.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = We mentioned earlier that Mark wanted to take over Marin County.
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    | text      = Yes, of course he did.
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    | text      = He wanted to create a kingdom for himself.
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    | text      = Who wouldn't?
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    | text      = But look, dude, it's a misunderstanding.
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    | text      = How is that a misunderstanding?
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    | text      = Because Mark was writing a book called Imperial Marin.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Right?
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    | text      = And so Carrie gets-
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    | text      = So the plan wasn't a plan, it was part of the plot of his novel.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Gotcha.
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    | text      = And so Carrie gets into that in this next clip.
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    | text      = I have two clear motives that were stated in the trial or during the length of the trial.
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    | text      = And I do want to interject that.
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    | text      = Motive one is based on the science fiction book, Imperial Marin.
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    | text      = And I will put the book cover here and be quoting from the back of the book.
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    | text      = Mark was writing, which took place in the future where, as the story goes, Marin County
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    | text      = has become a place, quote, environmentally sound and an absolutely democratic and free
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    | text      = society.
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    | text      = Oh, that's nice.
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    | text      = Unquote.
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    | text      = It concerns a planet-wide society led by hero kings-
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    | text      = Wait, how's that democratic?
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    | text      = Hero kings?
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    | text      = How's that totally democratic if you're run by hero kings?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = A planet-wide society run by hero kings.
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    | text      = Seems contradictory.
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    | text      = What's the term limit on hero kings?
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    | text      = I think it's a lifetime appointment.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's a lifetime appointment?
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    | text      = It might be also sort of handed down generationally.
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    | text      = Could be?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Who were focused on creating a better future.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This novel, actually a series of seven books, was misrepresented in the courtroom and the
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    | text      = press as a takeover of Marin County.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Easy mistake to make.
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    | text      = It's very simple to make that kind of mistake.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = So Carrie Cassidy, intrepid reporter and researcher, is here.
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    | text      = She's telling her audience that one of the two motives for Mark's crime that were argued
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    | text      = in court was that he was planning to take over Marin County.
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    | text      = And it's just an innocent misunderstanding of this sci-fi novel.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It was a manuscript.
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    | text      = I should give you full disclosure here.
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    | text      = I tried to buy a copy of Imperial Marin for this episode because I'm positive that it's
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    | text      = full of rambling horseshit that would be really fun to discuss.
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    | text      = Yeah, I would love to read that.
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    | text      = Unfortunately, there is a page for it up on Amazon, but there are no copies available.
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    | text      = That does not surprise me.
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    | text      = As far as I can tell, the only place you can buy a copy is from Joanne Richards, and there's
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    | text      = no way I'm giving her a goddamn penny.
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    | text      = Anyway, what Carrie is saying is completely stupid.
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    | text      = The court specifically decided not to even argue that Mark was trying to take over Marin
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    | text      = County or charge him with a crime for that because, like I said earlier, they didn't
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    | text      = need to.
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    | text      = They had him dead to rights on a murder and felt that pretty much took care of the Mark
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    | text      = Richards problem.
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    | text      = It kind of seems like it would.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Reading from Mark's unsuccessful appeal from 1988, where he tried to argue that the jury
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    | text      = was prejudiced against him because he was planning to take over the county they lived
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    | text      = in, which would tend to...
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    | text      = But now that kind of, I mean, imagine that it worked.
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    | text      = Then it's like, well, you just admitted that you were trying to take over the county there,
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    | text      = so I guess we'll just charge you with that.
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    | text      = Yeah, I think it's way tougher to argue that in court.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And I think it would require a death penalty, too.
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    | text      = The idea of trying to plan a coup.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Traitor?
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    | text      = Yeah, I think that also would really complicate matters in a way you just don't want to broach.
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    | text      = But so reading from this appeal, it clearly states, quote, the jury was instructed to
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    | text      = consider the Pendragon evidence solely to the extent that it tends to establish the
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    | text      = nature of the relationship between the defendant on the one hand and Andrew and Cross and Hoover
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    | text      = on the other.
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    | text      = You are not called upon to decide whether any aspect of the Pendragon activity was illegal,
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    | text      = nor should you assume that it was.
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    | text      = The defendant is not accused of plotting to overthrow Marin County, but of the crimes
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    | text      = of murder and burglary.
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    | text      = I like the idea that you should not assume that...
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    | text      = And don't assume that taking over Marin County is a crime.
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    | text      = You don't know that.
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    | text      = Maybe it's fine.
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    | text      = But it's important to maintain that for the preservation of like...
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Because otherwise you would unfairly bias people against him, most likely.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = I like the idea that there is some bylaw in Marin County specifically that is like, it
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = turns out it's not a crime to overthrow Marin County.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's just like one of those old, like you can't kiss a horse kind of laws.
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    | text      = Can't kiss a horse on Tuesday.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You can overthrow Marin County.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That just happens.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So the prosecution was pretty careful about the whole Pendragon plot because they knew
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = it was messy, to put it simply.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They didn't need the overthrowing Marin part to prove their case.
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    | text      = All they needed it for was to establish that Marc was running a group of some sort, and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = they cross in Hoover and Andrew were in it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And they did establish that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They did.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The Pendragon plot was never used to establish a motive in court for the murder.
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    | text      = That's a straw man argument that Marc uses to pretend he was railroaded.
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    | text      = And Kerry is just repeating it, having done no actual research into the case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's not hard to see vague parallels with Alex's current legal situation when you hear
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = stuff like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's getting sued for his coverage of Sandy Hook, and in his deposition, it's pretty clearly
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    | text      = established that in early 2013, he based his horrible reporting on things Wolfgang Halbig
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = said, which he never investigated or fact-checked himself before presenting them as truth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Similarly, Kerry is just taking the word of a lunatic as the gospel truth without fact-checking
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    | text      = a single bit of it.
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    | text      = Granted, the stakes of the game Kerry is playing are way lower, but it deserves mention of
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    | text      = how these people operate in pretty much the same way.
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    | text      = Just take whatever these crazy people say and then pretend that it's vetted truth.
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    | text      = Another interesting parallel with Infowars in their world pops up in Marc's failed appeal.
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    | text      = The court did find that some of the references to Pendragon in the initial trial went beyond
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    | text      = the intended scope of what they were there for, but didn't constitute any sort of miscarriage
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    | text      = of justice, and that it didn't really affect the outcome of the case.
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    | text      = They say, quote, we agree with the appellant that some of the Pendragon evidence went beyond
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    | text      = the purpose for which it was admitted.
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    | text      = Such is the reference attributed to the appellant about excluding blacks in the new form of
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    | text      = That's right.
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    | text      = Marc's conceived utopian kingdom would be a white nationalist state.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = This should come as no surprise to anybody.
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    | text      = Nope.
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    | text      = You see, Marc's a little bit of a racist.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = In his interview with the police, he describes the salesman from Montgomery Ward who sold
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    | text      = the video camera as, quote, tall guy, brown hair.
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    | text      = He might have had some Mexican blood in him.
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    | text      = That doesn't... There's no reason to add that.
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    | text      = There's... That's... It was 82.
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    | text      = That's speculative and stupid.
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    | text      = It doesn't make any sense to throw that in there.
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    | text      = Turns out Eddie Page is not the exception to the rule in terms of Project Camelot guests.
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    | text      = I'm starting to think a lot of these kooks are all racists.
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    | text      = There's a lot of overlap.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = They didn't use the overthrow of Marin or whatever misinterpretation Kerry could be
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    | text      = arguing about this imperial Marin book.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = They didn't use that as a motive in court at all.
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    | text      = That is a false argument that Kerry is making and is just horseshit.
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    | text      = There's a second motive that Kerry... Remember she said there was two?
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    | text      = Yes, there were two.
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    | text      = That was just the first one.
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    | text      = Second one?
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    | text      = Clones.
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    | text      = Nope.
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    | text      = They're unreliable.
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    | text      = God damn it.
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    | text      = Second one though is very accurate as a motive.
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    | text      = And a second motive attributed to Mark is a motive in which they claim Mark needed the
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    | text      = money.
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    | text      = The DA claimed based on the testimony from Andrew that Mark masterminded the murder for
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    | text      = the sum of $2,000.
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    | text      = Not enough.
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    | text      = This was apparently substantiated based on a paper.
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    | text      = The $2,000 number is just the amount of cash I believe that was taken from his house.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = Because he was planning on selling all the cars and all of that stuff.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And the amount that he would have stood to make off of the plot itself was much more
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    | text      = than $2,000.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And he would own Marin County.
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    | text      = And one of the reasons that he was... Baldwin was selected as a-
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    | text      = Hero king.
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    | text      = No, as a victim, is that he was known for having large amounts of money on him and at
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    | text      = the garage.
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    | text      = Gotcha.
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    | text      = And a large cash-
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    | text      = He did some cash business.
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    | text      = Large cash, cashes.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Cash, cashes?
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    | text      = Cash, cashes.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = And his attorney, Shapiro, and we'll talk more about him later, got Mark to sign after
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    | text      = he was jailed and when he actually had no visible means of support.
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    | text      = So this, just really quick, what she's trying to say, because she spells it out in a later
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    | text      = part, but it's not worth listening to it twice, but she's trying to make the argument that
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    | text      = Mark's lawyer, this Shapiro guy, what he did is he made Mark sign a piece of paper when
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    | text      = he got into court that said that he was financially destitute.
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    | text      = Ah.
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    | text      = And here he is making the argument that he only signed that because he was once he was
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    | text      = in prison.
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    | text      = At the time, yeah.
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    | text      = But he wasn't before he went into prison, he was flushed with cash.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = So that's nonsense and completely stupid.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = That's the argument she's trying to make.
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    | text      = But it was simply untrue prior to the death of Baldwin.
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    | text      = In fact, Mark states that Mark's wife at the time, Karen, during the year before the murder
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    | text      = had spent over half a million dollars on furniture alone.
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    | text      = You'll notice that she said, Mark said that Mark's ex-wife spent that much money on furniture.
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    | text      = There's nothing at all that establishes this other than Mark saying it.
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    | text      = And it's absolutely not true.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Where would you even put half a million dollars worth of furniture?
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    | text      = Ridiculous.
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    | text      = Ridiculous.
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    | text      = Ah, Mark states he was making far more money than was possible through his job as a contractor.
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    | text      = I thought he was off the planet.
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    | text      = Strangely, his ex-wife Karen, who reportedly has a problem with alcohol at this time.
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    | text      = Oh boy.
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    | text      = He does not seem to recall or has never been questioned on how often Mark was absent from
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    | text      = home during their marriage.
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    | text      = I would go with a lot.
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    | text      = In reality, Mark's contracting business was a cover for money earned fighting in the secret
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    | text      = space command.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Well, naturally.
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    | text      = I mean, you're going to, you know, you're going to pay a guy for the space command.
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    | text      = Well, yeah.
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    | text      = If he's in the secret space command.
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    | text      = Yeah, for sure.
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    | text      = So in the lead up to the murder, Mark was telling Cross and Hoover and Andrew that Richard
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    | text      = Baldwin owed him a lot of money and he was getting sick and tired of Baldwin not paying
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    | text      = up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark continued to use this narrative in his post arrest interview with those detectives
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    | text      = claiming that he'd done some home improvement work for Baldwin, which he was owed payment
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    | text      = for, and that it was tight times money wise because he wasn't getting this money that
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    | text      = he needed from Baldwin and that was bothering him.
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    | text      = But he was presenting it in such a way as like, if I killed him, I couldn't get the
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    | text      = money back from him that I needed.
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    | text      = So it was almost exculpatory that he owed me money, why would I kill him if he owed
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    | text      = me money?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's an asset to me alive that he's not to me dead.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Unless you're stealing all of his stuff.
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    | text      = So in his trial, it was shown that, in fact, Mark owed Baldwin a large sum of money.
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    | text      = Surprise.
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    | text      = As Baldwin was one of the main creditors for Mark's contracting business.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Baldwin had floated Mark some credit and Mark was unable to pay him back and this is pretty
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    | text      = firmly established in court as part of the motive for the murder, which is what, I mean,
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    | text      = so Kerry's right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Baldwin is an actual motive for the murder that was presented in court.
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    | text      = And actually it's one of the reasons that he got hit with a much harder sentence is
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    | text      = because it's a special circumstance of first degree murder with the intention of financial
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    | text      = enrichment.
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    | text      = And the qualification for that is something along the lines of like, you're trying to
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = get money, but an essential piece of getting that money is killing somebody.
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    | text      = And because you're trying to get money and you accidentally killed somebody, or not accidentally,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I mean like incidentally killed somebody along the way.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's a difference between that and this is much worse.
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    | text      = So Mark's contracting business was not a front from him fighting in the secret space
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    | text      = program because if it were, it would have been set up like a front.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = When a secretive government entity creates a cutout front business, they make sure it
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    | text      = looks like a real business.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's kind of important for the facade to actually work because you don't want to raise suspicions.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = I'd like to read to you a passage from page 36 of the interview Mark did with detectives
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    | text      = after he was arrested.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Detective, what's the name of your company?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark, I don't really have one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We just work third time doing anything we can.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Detective, so you're not in the yellow pages.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark, no, no, I'm much too small for that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm in the white pages?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = If this were a secret space program front, the very least they would have done is come
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:56:34.659
    | text      = up with a goddamn name for their front business.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It was called Captain Mark Richards, secret space program guy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:41.199
    | text      = No self-respecting secret space program is going to be like, all right, look, we got
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = to pay for this superhero space captain, but obviously we can't just do it directly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So we need a business to funnel payment through.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = How about we have him run a completely unregistered odd jobs business where he employs miners?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Sounds good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Should we name the company?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Nah, seems unnecessary.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:58.519
    | text      = Come on, come on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:59.519
    | text      = What are we going to do?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:01.519
    | text      = What are we doing here?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:02.599
    | text      = What bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:03.599
    | text      = Why would we name it?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:04.599
    | text      = The very idea of a secret space program operating this way is insulting.
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    | text      = They have to be secret.
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    | text      = It makes perfect sense because even the business has to be secret.
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    | text      = Why would you name a business that has to be secret, Dan?
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    | text      = Do we have any evidence he ever actually did any work for anyone ever?
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    | text      = Based on his testimony, he fixed a fence.
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    | text      = Okay, see, there we go.
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    | text      = But also Hoover might have knocked over that fence.
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    | text      = It's a little complicated.
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    | text      = There's a lot of ins and outs.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = A lot of ins and outs of that 130 pages.
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    | text      = Why would I expect even the slightest odd job to be simple?
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = It's very odd.
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    | text      = It's also a job that most likely they created the need for in the first place, naturally.
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    | text      = So in that interview with police, Mark even admits while still trying to pretend he had
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    | text      = nothing to do with the murder that after he realized Baldwin was probably dead, which
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    | text      = he knew he was dead at the point of the story that he's talking about, he's presenting it
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    | text      = as, I had a good reason to think he was probably dead.
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    | text      = Even in that mindset, which is a fake mindset, but he's presenting it as that was his mindset,
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    | text      = he went through Baldwin's house to try and find things to settle the debt he was pretending
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    | text      = Baldwin owed him.
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    | text      = At that point...
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    | text      = Well, that's just a smart move.
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    | text      = After he admits that, the detective explains to Mark that he has basically just confessed
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    | text      = to grave robbing.
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    | text      = Well, yeah, but I mean, he wasn't even...
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    | text      = It was like...
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    | text      = I mean, it wasn't a grave.
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    | text      = He was in a garage.
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    | text      = It's garage robbing.
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    | text      = The issue is that the detectives started to talk about various details that Mark knows
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    | text      = or has to know that they know, but he thinks they might be bluffing, so they bring up the
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    | text      = safe that he took and stuff like that.
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    | text      = He's like, well, yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, look, I went in.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I didn't want to tell you this because I know it's fucked up, but I went in to his house
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    | text      = after I figured he was already dead and I took that, but it was just because he owed
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    | text      = me so much money.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I needed to make back my money.
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    | text      = And then...
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    | text      = That's a very innocent sounding story.
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    | text      = Right, because he needs to roll with whatever details are being presented to him.
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    | text      = That's the skill that he has, and if you read that 131 page police interview, you get a
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    | text      = real good sense of what he's doing to Carrie whenever she comes and visits because she'll
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    | text      = bring up something about raptors or mantis beings, and then he will adjust whatever his
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    | text      = story is to accommodate whatever she's bringing to the proceedings.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's throwing in some improv training.
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    | text      = That's why Carrie, whenever she talks about him, he validates so many of the things that
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    | text      = I already know from my research, therefore he's the greatest whistleblower of all time.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = Or he's a liar.
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    | text      = He's telling you what you want to hear.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He is an inveterate sociopath liar.
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    | text      = And a racist.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = And a grave robber.
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    | text      = And a murderer.
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    | text      = Mark also admitted that he used Baldwin's credit card after he was dead, but insisted
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    | text      = that he had permission to do so, because that's how Baldwin...
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Baldwin came to him earlier and was like, hey, if I ever die, please feel free to use
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    | text      = my credit card.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:00:08.840
    | text      = No, because Mark was still pretending that he wasn't sure that he was dead.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Oh, okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = At the point that he was using the credit card.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And the reason that he was fined to use it was because he owed him so much money, and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that's how Baldwin was going to pay off some of his debt, was like, I have a $1,000 limit
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:00:22.760
    | text      = on this card, so you can buy $1,000 worth of shit at Montgomery Ward or whatever, and
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:28.519
    | text      = then I will pay that off over time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It'll give me time for the money, which is all bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He just stole his credit card.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And started buying stuff after he was dead.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:00:37.599
    | text      = Mind boggling.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = From somebody who may or may not have Mexican blood in them, who worked at Montgomery Ward,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = who sold Mark a video camera using Baldwin's credit card.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, gotcha.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:00:45.340
    | text      = Real good stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:46.340
    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Also, Mark...
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:00:48.340
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I mean, it was 82, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It was an exciting time to have a video camera.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:53.480
    | text      = That's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:54.480
    | text      = You're right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:00:55.480
    | text      = Mark's wife at the time of the murder, Karen, has gone on record and testified that she
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = was surprised by the money that Mark was spending in the days immediately after the murder,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = like when he bought a boat to take the body out into the bay, that sort of shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Bought a boat with the money that he took from Baldwin to try and dispose of Baldwin's
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    | text      = body.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:11.599
    | text      = Wow.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:12.599
    | text      = Mark bought a boat, like I said, some jewelry, and that video camera, and she had no idea
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = where the money was coming from, because his business was not going well, and he owed a
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    | text      = ton of money to creditors like Baldwin.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = She also had said that his behavior got really weird after the murder, including him repeatedly
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:01:27.679
    | text      = asking her if she would, quote, always love him no matter what.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Which is a bad sign.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:01:32.760
    | text      = Oh, boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:33.760
    | text      = Oh, boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's a sign of guilt.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:01:35.760
    | text      = Eesh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:36.760
    | text      = Eesh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:37.760
    | text      = You're going to hear some very bad things about me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:38.760
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:39.760
    | text      = That I did.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:40.760
    | text      = Before I tell you what those are, though, I'm going to need confirmation that you will
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:01:43.179
    | text      = always love me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:01:45.280
    | text      = Thank you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:46.280
    | text      = Thank you in advance.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I find that behavior suspicious, but feel free to draw your own conclusions.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:01:50.000
    | text      = I will not decide for you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:53.239
    | text      = Hey, honey, just as a pure hypothetical, let's say I were to kill somebody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:58.400
    | text      = How would you feel?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:59.400
    | text      = Go.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:00.400
    | text      = Maybe I wouldn't be for it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:01.719
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:02.719
    | text      = But would you still love me?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:04.719
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:06.039
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:07.500
    | text      = How about this?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:08.500
    | text      = I killed somebody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:12.079
    | text      = So in this next clip, Carrie is just rambling about nonsense because she wants to present
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:16.960
    | text      = the idea that Mark was the victim of a conspiracy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:19.440
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:20.440
    | text      = And I know there's a lot of stuff about the case here at the beginning, but I assure you
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:22.920
    | text      = we'll get to some crazy bullshit at the end.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:25.000
    | text      = Wonderful.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:26.000
    | text      = But she talks a lot about the case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:28.059
    | text      = This is an added note.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:02:29.239
    | text      = I believe Richard Baldwin was selected as a victim by the team within the military and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:02:34.719
    | text      = at the highest levels of power in Britain and the US responsible for framing Mark Richards.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:02:42.320
    | text      = I've come to the conclusion that the murder was orchestrated with Hoover selected as the
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:02:47.599
    | text      = patsy due to his early history having been a victim of pedophilia and an unbalanced character.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I also believe there is an underlying pedophile ring that is behind the scenes in the current
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:03:01.519
    | text      = campaign targeting Mark Richards.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:04.519
    | text      = It is also significant that the individuals involved in targeting Mark Richards, Joanne
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:03:11.599
    | text      = Richards and myself at this time come from Britain.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:16.699
    | text      = And I also understand that there is some motivation within what I believe is MJ-12.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:26.719
    | text      = Who gives a shit?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:28.039
    | text      = That's a lot of nonsense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:29.039
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:30.039
    | text      = What Kerry is trying to do there is sort of repackage some of the things that Hoover has
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:03:35.000
    | text      = said were part of why or how Mark manipulated him into committing the murder.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:41.000
    | text      = And one part of it was that Mark knew that Hoover was violently homophobic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:46.480
    | text      = And so he told him that Baldwin was gay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:49.079
    | text      = And that was a part of the motivation that Mark used, the manipulation, in order to get
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:53.599
    | text      = him to hate Baldwin enough to do his bidding.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:57.039
    | text      = That sort of thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:03:58.039
    | text      = And so this idea of trying to repackage that as they knew he was a pedophile and Hoover
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:03.960
    | text      = was the victim of childhood abuse and that sort of thing is just really ugly to me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:08.280
    | text      = It's really gross.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:09.679
    | text      = It's gross on a number of levels.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:11.199
    | text      = They're exploiting him again in the same way that he was originally fucked with by Mark
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:16.840
    | text      = Richards.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:17.840
    | text      = They're doing twice over.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:18.840
    | text      = Or at least using him as a prop.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:21.679
    | text      = It's really offensive.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:22.800
    | text      = And then also just the conflating, even if it's subconscious or on like an abstract level,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:29.760
    | text      = the equivocating or making equivalent homosexuality and pedophilia is just disgusting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:36.519
    | text      = Always.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:37.519
    | text      = Always pedophiles to get out of any bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:39.639
    | text      = Oh yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:40.639
    | text      = It's very Alex-y.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:41.639
    | text      = It's all, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:42.920
    | text      = It's probably pedophile rings.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:44.639
    | text      = That's why they don't talk about it.
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    | text      = That's why everybody, they force them to get into these pedophile rings in order to get
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    | text      = into the highest level of power so they can blackmail you anytime you want.
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    | text      = So anything I've ever done is probably set up by pedophile rings.
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    | text      = That just makes the most sense.
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    | text      = I mean, it's yet another connection to Alex Jones' role.
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    | text      = So I mean, we're seeing a bit of that today.
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    | text      = So and then the stuff about the British and the operation that's going on against her
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    | text      = now is this docuseries.
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    | text      = And again, we're gonna talk about it a little bit later, so we'll get into the specifics.
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    | text      = Just know that that's what she's referencing.
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    | text      = And the idea that the British are attacking him is just a guy who's making a documentary.
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    | text      = So in this next clip, I would say that most of what she says in this next clip is true,
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    | text      = but she's saying it in a different way than I believe it.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = All indications are that this targeting of Mark Richards-
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    | text      = Talking about the documentary still.
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    | text      = Is happening now after nearly 35 years since the verdict, and this is because of my interviews
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    | text      = with Captain Mark Richards revealing the true nature of the alien presence and the secret
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    | text      = space program as well as space command.
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    | text      = And I believe that this targeting is aimed at further discrediting Mark and me and my
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    | text      = work as well as the work of Joanne Richards, Mark's wife.
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    | text      = If you take out the part of it being to cover up the truth about space, that entirely explains
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    | text      = why I do these episodes.
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    | text      = Perfect.
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    | text      = I am very motivated to discredit Mark Richards, very motivated to discredit and laugh at Gary
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    | text      = Cassidy.
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    | text      = So yeah, absolutely.
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    | text      = Yeah, we're in.
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    | text      = We're targeting you.
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    | text      = For sure.
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    | text      = We want to discredit you.
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    | text      = You got it.
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    | text      = You're crazy.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You probably lead people down bad paths.
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    | text      = I would assume.
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    | text      = At the very least, insinuating that everybody is a fucking pedophile is gonna get-
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    | text      = Minimizes real child abusers as well.
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    | text      = There are pedophile rings.
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    | text      = We know that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And you are hurting the-
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    | text      = So just to paint your enemies with that is to, I mean, it's crying wolf a little bit.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It's pretty gross.
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    | text      = Oh, sure.
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    | timestamp = 01:06:55.400
    | text      = There's another pedophile ring.
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    | text      = No, actually there is one this time.
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    | text      = So-
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    | text      = Yeah, we've heard it before, man.
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    | text      = Right, right.
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    | text      = So I don't think that that accusation of Baldwin being a pedophile necessarily comes from Mark
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    | text      = Richards.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I'm not sure that it does.
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    | text      = It may.
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    | text      = It may.
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    | text      = But I think that it comes from another guy.
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    | text      = And that's a guy who is a guest blogger on Project Camelot.
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    | text      = And a lot of the information, the background, and the research in very heavy quotes about
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    | text      = the case, she's reading from a guy named Paul Collin who did a report on Project Camelot.
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    | text      = And Kerry has this to say about him.
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    | text      = In order to be fully informed, you must see the investigation done by Camelot blogger
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    | text      = Paul Collin.
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    | text      = And I have already sort of detailed that and again put the links because this is such crucial
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    | text      = information to get your facts right.
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    | text      = So you need to, man.
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    | text      = If you're going to know the context, if you're going to know about reality, you've got to
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    | text      = read Paul Collin's report.
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    | text      = This is fun because she's saying a lot of true things lying.
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    | text      = What do you mean?
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    | text      = You know, she's saying a lot of right things wrong.
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    | text      = She's like, yes, you have to get the reporting right.
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    | text      = This is a sensitive issue.
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    | text      = You are correct, Kerry.
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    | text      = You are then wrong about all of it, though.
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    | text      = Yeah, and Paul Collin's a mess.
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    | text      = So Paul Collin, for all I can tell, is just a guest blogger on Kerry's website.
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    | text      = He claims to be a former CIA agent, but so does everyone Kerry talks to.
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    | text      = So I'm going to maintain my default position that I think that's bullshit.
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    | text      = However, if Kerry thinks that it's so important that I see his evidence in order that I be
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    | text      = fully informed on this case, what kind of researcher would I be if I didn't at least
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    | text      = poke around a little and see what this guy has to offer?
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    | text      = You would be lazy.
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    | text      = This is an important thing and you've got to make sure you have your facts straight.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = First things first, Kerry doesn't link to his reporting.
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    | text      = She's copy and pasted the URL for his report into her show transcript, but that's a PDF
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    | text      = file that you can't copy from.
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    | text      = So in order to get to his report, you have to type out this long string of the URL.
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    | text      = In fairness, it does lead to an actual page.
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    | text      = That's great.
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    | text      = I just bring this up to vent a little bit of my frustration about how un-user friendly
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    | text      = her website is.
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    | text      = So if you go to that page, you'll find that this report by Paul Collin isn't really about
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    | text      = Mark Richards being framed, nor is it really about any truth about his case.
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    | text      = His report is mostly just trying to attack the character of Kevin Daniel Moore, the British
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    | timestamp = 01:09:27.000
    | text      = documentary filmmaker who's working on that docu-series about Baldwin's murder.
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    | text      = Collin accuses him of having, quote, secretive past involvement with central banking and
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    | text      = financial services as a corporate secretary and corporate director while simultaneously
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    | text      = working as a lowly telemarketer.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:44.279
    | text      = Oh, that is...
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    | timestamp = 01:09:46.279
    | text      = Dun-dun.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:48.720
    | text      = That's believable.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:50.720
    | text      = You could be a telemarker in financial services or central banking.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:53.560
    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I don't particularly care about any of this garbage.
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    | text      = Even if everything this guy is saying is true, attacking a guy who's making a docu-series
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    | timestamp = 01:10:01.800
    | text      = about Mark Richards has literally nothing to do with what I know about Mark Richards.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:06.399
    | text      = This is a classic case of damage control.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:08.760
    | text      = And you know why they're doing it?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:10.180
    | text      = It's because of what I told you earlier.
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    | text      = Because for reasons I can't possibly guess, Carrie agreed to be interviewed for Moore's
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    | timestamp = 01:10:16.159
    | text      = docu-series.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:17.159
    | text      = And from the trailer of it, it doesn't look like she's painted in a very good light.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:21.119
    | text      = Some say it makes her look like a crazy person or that it looks at things accurately.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:25.960
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:26.960
    | text      = Well, of course she is going to agree because to her, she is telling the truth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:32.279
    | text      = And so this is an avenue to get her message out.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:35.579
    | text      = To do the interview?
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    | timestamp = 01:10:37.079
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:38.079
    | text      = Maybe.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:39.079
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:40.079
    | text      = It makes perfect sense for her to do that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:41.500
    | text      = It's a really vulnerable position to be in.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:43.720
    | text      = She doesn't have final cut.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:45.119
    | text      = She doesn't know what this guy's thing is about or anything like that, probably what
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    | timestamp = 01:10:49.279
    | text      = she agreed to do with.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:50.279
    | text      = She doesn't need to, man, because she is insulated by the truth, Dan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:57.239
    | text      = An innocent man does not need to hide anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:01.359
    | text      = An innocent man speaks truth to power and everyone sees it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:04.439
    | text      = Look, I love your passion, but that's bullshit.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:07.279
    | text      = That's absolute bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:08.439
    | text      = Carrie knows that she made a huge mistake.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:10.159
    | text      = Oh, of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:11.159
    | text      = Agreeing to be in that documentary.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:12.300
    | text      = And now realizes that the whole thing is going to, the whole documentary is going to be actual
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:16.319
    | text      = evidence of Mark's guilt, interviews with Cross and Hoover, interviews with Mark's ex-wife
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:21.119
    | text      = Karen, interviews with people Mark knew in college.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:23.840
    | text      = And all of it's going to illustrate the fundamental truth that Mark Richards is a sociopath who's
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    | timestamp = 01:11:28.880
    | text      = been conning people his whole life.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:31.199
    | text      = On some level, Carrie knows that the producers of the documentary really only have any interest
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:35.439
    | text      = in talking to her so she can be the example of his current victim.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:39.560
    | text      = And that this narrative that Carrie, that's a narrative that Carrie can't really accept
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    | timestamp = 01:11:43.060
    | text      = existing unchallenged.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:45.239
    | text      = She can't argue her case on the facts.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:47.380
    | text      = She's left to do that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:48.380
    | text      = All she can do is start rambling about raptors.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:50.520
    | text      = So her only real strategy is to paint this documentarian as an agent of some satanic
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:54.520
    | text      = cabal that pedophile network is clearly working with the reptilians against her and Mark's
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:59.720
    | text      = noble crusade.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:01.159
    | text      = It's painfully transparent what's going on here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:03.680
    | text      = So her exhortation for you to get all the facts by going to this guest blogger's website
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:09.560
    | text      = is her saying, get your facts straight and him saying, that guy sucks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:14.119
    | text      = So the facts are that guy sucks and he's working for the aliens that we don't like.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:20.319
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:21.319
    | text      = Right, right, right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:22.319
    | text      = Of course.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:23.319
    | text      = And then the article that this dude wrote, it kind of deteriorates halfway through into
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:25.399
    | text      = a defensive screed about how great Carrie Cassidy is, which is boring, but it does give
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    | text      = us this line, quote, Furthermore, Carrie Cassidy exercises professionalism, high orders of
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    | text      = discernment, courage, and with her integrity remaining intact.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:39.640
    | text      = If people want a fair haired version of Alex Jones, like guerrilla journalism broadcasting,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:44.600
    | text      = then they know where to turn their attention.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:47.119
    | text      = Well, that was a little bit on the nose.
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    | text      = A little bit.
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    | text      = That might've been, you might've wanted to keep that part quieter.
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    | text      = That part might've, you might've wanted to lower the volume on that part.
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    | text      = Just on the facts, Paul Collins' article is a piece of trash.
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    | text      = He gets very basic pieces of information incorrect.
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    | text      = For instance, he claims that Andrew was, quote, Criminally charged with murder, but that is
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    | text      = He goes on to even say that Andrew was sentenced to prison for the murder, which is categorically
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    | text      = false, and even is counter to the version of the story that Carrie is presenting on
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    | text      = this episode that we're listening to.
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    | text      = If he's fucking up that kind of really basic fact of the case, I can't get myself to engage
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    | text      = with his other unsourced assertions and possibly libelous claims about Baldwin being a pedophile,
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    | text      = although that's another parallel about how Alex Jones operates, and we'd be remiss not
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    | text      = to point that out.
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    | text      = However, I should point out that on September 4th, 2018, Paul Collins posted a blog on Project
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    | text      = Camelot's website that reads, it reads like he copy and pasted an email from a Nigerian
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    | text      = prince.
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    | text      = Quote, On Friday, August 31st, 2018, I received some extremely difficult news negatively impacting
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    | text      = my very survival as a human being working to enhance human knowledgeability worldwide.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = The US federal government wants me to pay back 2,500 US dollars.
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    | text      = The US State Department 2006 repatriation loan that America used to remove me out of
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    | text      = Eastern Europe to America on August 15th, 2006.
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    | text      = The debt I owe, they claim, is overdue.
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    | text      = Hence, if I do not repay the US government within the next 30 days, they will levy a
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    | text      = lien against my bank account, which means all donation monies from October 2018 moving
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    | text      = forward to my bank account will automatically be deducted out of my bank account until their
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    | text      = debt is paid in full.
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    | text      = This means I can no longer ask for donations to feed myself, put gasoline in my van, pay
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    | text      = my vehicle insurance, or pay my monthly smartphone bill.
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    | text      = These are basic fundamental human necessities for me to conduct the 18 to 22 hour long days
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    | text      = and nights I spend seven days a week researching and writing reports for Project Camelot.
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    | text      = Wow.
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    | text      = If I cannot...
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    | text      = He's got to...
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    | text      = He's got to do better.
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    | text      = He's got to negotiate for better labor rights.
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    | text      = I can't imagine what he's doing in that time.
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    | text      = 18 to 22 hours.
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    | text      = There is no work shown on the page.
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    | text      = If I cannot come up with their $2,500 in cash soon, there'll be no further sense in my living
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    | text      = any worse than I am already now, homeless in a van without being able to qualify for
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    | text      = any public assistance whatsoever.
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    | text      = Did Roger Stone write that for him?
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    | text      = Here's the thing, Jordan.
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    | text      = Yeah, Dan.
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    | text      = Repatriation loans are not used to remove someone from a foreign country unless that
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    | text      = person applies for the loan themselves because of a financial hardship and a need to return
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    | text      = to the US provided that they're a citizen.
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    | text      = From the State Department's website, quote, the Department of State's Repatriation Loans
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    | text      = Program provides emergency loans to assist destitute Americans abroad who have no other
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    | text      = source of funds to return to the United States.
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    | text      = They include Americans temporarily abroad who are without funds because of unforeseen
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    | text      = events like a theft, illness, or accident, individuals suffering from serious physical
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    | text      = illness who need to return to the United States for medical care, Americans residing abroad
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    | text      = with an alien spouse needing assistance to escape an abusive situation, and individuals
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    | text      = caught in a disaster or emergency abroad who need to be removed from harm's way.
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    | text      = Also, guess what?
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    | text      = If you have a good cause like a medical condition, poverty, inability to work, or something along
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    | text      = those lines, there's a really easy to find form on the government's website which is
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    | text      = called, quote, Repatriation Loan Waiver and Deferral Request Form.
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    | text      = People can apply to have, quote, the whole or any portion of a repatriation loan completely
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    | text      = waived.
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    | text      = Officers will then perform a review, and if it's appropriate, they'll often waive these
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    | text      = loans entirely or in part, and in cases where they can't justify a waiver, they often allow
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    | text      = a deferral of collections in order to set up future reviews to reconsider the applicant's
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    | text      = financial situation down the road.
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    | text      = It's a very forgiving system that's set up, uncharacteristically so, of the government.
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    | text      = Yeah, that is a shocker.
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    | text      = It seems kind of nice.
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    | text      = Further, they have a really easy to find phone number and email address, it's very easy to
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    | text      = Google, where loan recipients can work out payment plans at any point in the life of
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    | text      = their loan.
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    | text      = U.S. Code 2671 Section D covers the establishment of the repatriation loan program.
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    | text      = Paragraph 4 clearly states that they don't refer any loans for litigation except in cases
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    | text      = where they are more than a year overdue on payment.
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    | text      = Nowhere do they say that they'll place liens on people who don't pay, although I do accept
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    | text      = that that's possibly a policy of the collection agencies that do get subcontracted out.
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    | text      = I think it's possible.
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    | text      = But according to the U.S. Code, they seem to prefer to just apply some fees and they
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    | text      = only litigate in any way if you're a year overdue on a payment, not on the entire loan.
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    | text      = If you have a $2,500 repatriation loan, I'm positive you could get it cut down into, like,
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    | text      = I don't know, 15 payments of $200 or something like that.
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    | text      = Pay a little extra and chop it down into tiny bits or whatever.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:17:56.159
    | text      = Convenience fee to the government, something along those lines.
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    | text      = So whatever it is, he's probably just had a $200 bill that he hasn't paid for a year,
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    | text      = if this is even true at all.
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    | text      = So I don't know.
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    | text      = Anyway, my point here is that I don't trust Paul Collin in the least.
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    | text      = He seems real scammy.
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    | text      = And this I need $2,500 and I need it fast post is a serious red flag.
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    | text      = And then he also posted two more things on Project Camelot's thing.
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    | text      = We're talking about how he desperately needs money.
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    | text      = So red flags.
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    | text      = 18 to 22 hours and all he could write for a please desperately give me money is that
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    | text      = short piece.
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    | text      = And it really looks like a Nigerian prince email kind of scam.
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    | timestamp = 01:18:38.039
    | text      = Bad.
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    | timestamp = 01:18:39.039
    | text      = Also, his posts...
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    | text      = It does sound like that.
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    | text      = Do you remember the roommate scam that they used to have?
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    | timestamp = 01:18:43.279
    | text      = Where it was like, I would love to be a roommate for this apartment, we'll get this all together.
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    | text      = In order for me to do so, though, I'm gonna need you to cash this check after I advance
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    | text      = it that whole time.
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    | text      = Sure, sure.
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    | text      = There are 100 variables.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = I think it's a simpler version of that.
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    | text      = It's almost like sweeps week for just like, here is a crisis, give us money, that sort
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    | text      = of thing.
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    | text      = Right, right, right.
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    | text      = Also, his posts that Kerry linked to about Mark Richards haven't made me any more informed
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    | text      = about the murder that Mark totally orchestrated, but they did give me a chance to learn about
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    | text      = repatriation loans.
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    | text      = Yeah, that is nice.
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    | text      = I didn't even know that existed.
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    | text      = Yeah, so I guess there's a silver lining to everything.
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    | text      = Yeah, that's nice.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = So now we get back to Kerry talking about Mark's case, and this is just not true.
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    | text      = Around the time of the murder, Mark had more than one construction company.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:33.020
    | text      = He supervised crews that reported to him, and he had hundreds of people in the secret
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    | text      = space program or secret space command who reported to him.
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    | text      = Mark didn't have a name for his construction business.
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    | text      = He didn't have two fucking construction businesses.
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    | text      = In that interview with the police, it's very clear he's talking about it not going well.
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    | text      = The business is not going well.
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    | text      = They ask him how many people he has working for him, and he says it's like six.
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    | text      = He's talking about how one guy who he sold a gun to who works for him, he's not working
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    | text      = for you now, right?
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    | text      = And he's like, well, I mean, he would still work for me, but we don't have any work for
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    | text      = him.
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    | text      = So there's not a ton of work to do.
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    | text      = He can't even employ the six people that he has.
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    | text      = Right, right, right.
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    | text      = The only people who are probably actively working for him are Andrew and Crossy.
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    | text      = Probably those are the only people who are on the crew that are actively working for
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    | text      = him.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He has phone numbers of five other guys.
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    | text      = If he needs them, they'll subcontract out.
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    | text      = If you were born in Illinois in the Midwest, at like 13, you'll get your first detasseling
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    | text      = job.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:40.880
    | text      = It'll just be some random asshole.
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    | timestamp = 01:20:42.460
    | text      = In my case, it was the PE teacher at my school who'd just show up with a half bus and be
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    | text      = like, eh, you, you, and you, let's get out of here.
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    | text      = It's not a real business, it's just a bus.
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    | text      = I mean, I worked for myself, but I'd go and mow people's yards and stuff like that.
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    | text      = It's the equivalent of that.
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    | text      = What was the name of your business?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:01.079
    | text      = 29-year-old murderer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:04.039
    | text      = That was actually the name of my business.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = 29-year-old murderer?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:21:07.600
    | text      = Grass murderer.
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    | timestamp = 01:21:08.600
    | text      = Yeah, yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:21:09.600
    | text      = Weed killer.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:10.600
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So in this next clip, Carrie brings up something that she thinks is proving Mark's innocence
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    | text      = in some way, but it actually makes the case so much worse against him.
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    | text      = Apparently there is also another young man named Willie Robles who was not charged but
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    | text      = may have had something to do with the murder.
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    | text      = Mark says that Robles was dating Hoover's sister at the time.
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    | text      = Herbert who?
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    | text      = Robles was dating Hoover's sister at the time and was said to go around saying he would
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    | text      = bash someone's head in with a baseball bat if he got angry.
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    | text      = And this does mirror what happened in the murder, apparently.
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    | text      = Carrie's trying to imply here that this Robles might actually be the person who killed Baldwin.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = In reality, William Robles is one of two other youths who have testified that Mark Richards
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    | text      = approached them with his plan to murder Baldwin and sell his shit to make a load of cash.
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    | text      = Mark has tried to attack their credibility by saying that they were drug dealers who
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    | text      = were trying to cut a deal.
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    | text      = And it is true that one of those two, not Robles, the other guy, was arrested for selling
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    | text      = But the appeals court made it very clear that, quote, the officers who had signed declarations
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    | text      = swearing that Neil and Robles were never offered any promise of leniency in any way for their
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    | text      = So that's all a load of shit.
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    | text      = The existence of these two other people is really damning as a piece of evidence against
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    | text      = Mark.
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    | text      = It's two additional people who have sworn testimony that he tried to get them in on
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    | text      = a murder plot that's identical to the one that he eventually did carry out.
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    | text      = So...
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    | text      = Hmm.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Or it's the lizards.
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    | text      = He couldn't rewrite the plan?
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    | text      = He just kept the same one?
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    | text      = You gotta edit.
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    | text      = We're creatures of habit.
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    | text      = You gotta update it.
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    | text      = I don't know, man.
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    | text      = I'm telling you.
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    | text      = It's nuts.
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    | text      = It's real nuts to see all of this and still be like, guys, reptilians.
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    | text      = I like it.
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    | text      = I like it because it's a certain amount of dedication to the idea.
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    | text      = It's quite a bit of dedication.
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    | text      = It is in some ways admirable and in other ways the real failings of the human race all
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    | text      = in one package.
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    | text      = It's an Ian Abramson-level commitment to a man.
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    | text      = That's what it is.
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    | text      = So we get back to this idea of Baldwin being a pedophile in this next clip.
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    | text      = And we get some evidence?
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    | text      = Question mark?
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    | text      = So the way that Mark learned that Baldwin was a pedophile is that Mark's company was
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    | text      = hired to remodel Baldwin's house.
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    | text      = Mark's crew called him one day at the beginning of the job to say they found a huge amount
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    | text      = of child porn in the house saying, you won't believe what we found.
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    | text      = So Mark was contracted to work on his house.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Because he was his buddy.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And in that police interview, he was talking about how they were trying to put down a concrete
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    | text      = slab for an extension of the building and stuff like that.
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    | text      = And he fixed that fence that Hoover might have hit.
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    | text      = We're not entirely sure, vague on the details.
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    | text      = But this is a new wrinkle.
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    | text      = And if this is true, which it's not, then this means that Mark discovered that Baldwin
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    | text      = had a giant cache of child pornography and then didn't report him to the police.
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    | text      = It also means that Mark didn't disclose this in his three hour long interview with detectives
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    | text      = after he was arrested for the murder.
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    | text      = It also means that Mark didn't bring this up ever, nor did Cross and Hoover or Andrew,
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    | text      = two people who were working on Baldwin's house, who they were the contractors who were there
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    | text      = working on it, who ostensibly maybe were the ones who Kerry is implying found this.
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    | text      = Well, let's just go.
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    | text      = None of them brought this up ever.
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    | text      = Let's just go even a tiny bit more into making sense territory.
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    | text      = You need money, right?
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    | text      = Desperately.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And you have this plan and your plan is to kill this guy.
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    | text      = But then later you find out that he has child pornography, that you're not going to report
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    | text      = to the police.
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    | text      = Now, why kill him when you could blackmail him?
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    | text      = That makes the most sense to everybody involved.
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    | text      = Right?
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    | text      = Totally.
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    | text      = You don't have to kill that guy.
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    | text      = And he's definitely not going to fucking...
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Nope.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Then he might kill you, but you have a lot of guns.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = But you'd be fine.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You're a white separatist who's trying to create his own kingdom.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You're working on a fucking laser.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = What is he going to do?
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    | text      = You have knights.
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    | text      = I really look at this and I assess it this way.
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    | text      = I think that it's part of an attempt to minimize the death of Richard Baldwin, pure and simple.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = It's a cruel tactic to make you think, well, this guy kind of had it coming.
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    | text      = We had a huge collection of child pornography.
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    | text      = Why should I give a fuck about him?
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Carrie never has to admit any guilt on Mark's part, but subconsciously she's implanting
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    | text      = in the listener's mind the idea of like, if he did it, it was because he was hurting kids
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    | text      = and we're all fine with him getting fucking taken out.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Aren't we?
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    | text      = Mark's fine.
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    | text      = Are you really going to do a life sentence for murdering a pedophile?
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:26:04.840
    | text      = Really?
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    | timestamp = 01:26:05.840
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Maybe five years tops.
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    | text      = It's insane.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:08.840
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I mean, look, if he did have child pornography, fuck him, he should have gone to prison and
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    | text      = all that.
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    | timestamp = 01:26:13.680
    | text      = You know?
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    | timestamp = 01:26:14.680
    | text      = Great.
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    | timestamp = 01:26:15.680
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = But I need you to prove this, first of all.
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    | text      = How did they find it?
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    | text      = Was it laying around?
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = Until you prove it, go fuck yourself with your stray accusations.
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    | text      = That's sort of my point.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Now, Jordan, we've been talking about Mark Richards for a long time, not only today,
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    | text      = but for our lives.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:26:34.640
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We've been talking about him a bit because he's fascinating.
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    | text      = It is surprising.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It is surprising how long we've been talking about Mark Richards.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:40.399
    | text      = He's a gift that keeps on giving.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It doesn't seem to stop yet.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Now, Jordan, the whole time we've been operating under the assumption that Mark was off planet
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    | text      = when the murder happened.
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    | text      = We have?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Well, because that's his alibi.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That is, of course, what we have been operating.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Kerry says it all the fucking time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = All the time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:57.159
    | text      = He was off planet.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:26:58.159
    | text      = Joanne Richards says the same thing, his current wife.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Didn't seem like he mentioned it in that interview with the cops.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:03.800
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:04.800
    | text      = Not once.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:05.800
    | text      = Not once.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:06.800
    | text      = He doesn't mention this either.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:07.800
    | text      = But in this next clip, we get a new alibi and clearly doesn't even bat an eyelash.
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    | text      = I like it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:13.880
    | text      = I like a new alibi.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:14.880
    | text      = This is insane.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:15.880
    | text      = He's had 40 years to work on a really good alibi.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:17.840
    | text      = Put your mic down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:18.840
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:19.840
    | text      = Because it's not great.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:20.840
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:21.840
    | text      = Mark's alibi during the exact time of the murder was that he was eating lunch with his
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    | text      = parents at his parents' house.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:28.039
    | text      = His lawyer, Shapiro, told him that would never be believed by the jury.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = However, it is notable that they could never place Mark at the scene of the crime.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:27:37.359
    | text      = They could.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark states that he had just returned from fighting a war in the Falklands in which he
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    | text      = was in a battle for the control of planet Earth.
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    | text      = This was a turning point in the history of Earth, and if we had lost the battle, we would
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    | text      = have lost control of Earth.
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    | text      = It was a battle with the alien races, the Draco, reptilians, and Grays.
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    | timestamp = 01:28:02.159
    | text      = The raptors, and for more about the raptors, please do see my other nine interviews with
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    | text      = Captain Mark Richards, but the raptors are featured in Steven Spielberg, Jurassic World,
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    | text      = and other films very specifically.
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    | text      = So that's fucked up, man.
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    | text      = The idea, like she's been saying he's off planet all the time, and now like the disclaimer
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    | text      = at the beginning of the episode said he was off planet.
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    | text      = Now she's saying that he was having lunch with his parents, and his lawyers thought
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    | text      = that was unbelievable.
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    | text      = The exact time of the murder as well.
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    | text      = Right, and by the way, if he was fighting in the Falklands, even if he was fighting
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    | text      = aliens, that's not off planet.
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    | text      = So off planet is out the window.
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    | timestamp = 01:28:42.239
    | text      = No, you're wrong.
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    | text      = You're wrong.
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    | text      = It was the off planet Falklands.
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    | text      = There's one in the Beetlejuice system.
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    | text      = I forgot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know, and what we've always, and this is something that you've always heard this,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = we heard it from the very beginning in grade school, if you lose the Falklands, you lose
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    | text      = the planet.
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    | text      = Lose everything.
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    | text      = Everybody knows that.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = You could have done that the first time you play Risk.
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    | text      = Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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    | text      = Risk might come back up later.
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    | text      = That's fucked up.
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    | text      = I mean, like the only way you can make the argument that he was fighting off planet would
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    | text      = be that he was in a plane.
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    | text      = I guess.
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    | text      = And that's off the ground, which is a shady technicality.
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    | text      = Also, you could have just asked your, you could have just asked his parents.
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    | text      = I don't think they would talk to Kerry.
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    | text      = No, no, no.
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    | text      = I mean, for the alibi.
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    | text      = Oh.
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    | text      = Why would it, why would the lawyers say that they wouldn't believe that?
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    | text      = If they're credible?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = If both parents were like, oh, he was eating lunch with us.
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    | text      = The lawyer would be like, yes.
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    | text      = Yeah, absolutely.
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    | text      = Do that one.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Don't do the you're off planet thing.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | timestamp = 01:29:40.359
    | text      = Like they would believe parents over like a 17 year old who worked for him.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = If, if like there could be establishing, like there would be evidence.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It would not be hard to prove that were it true.
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    | timestamp = 01:29:51.640
    | text      = It would be sorted out.
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    | timestamp = 01:29:53.079
    | text      = Also a small point, Richard Baldwin was murdered on July 6th, 1982.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:29:57.159
    | text      = The war in the Falklands ended on June 14th, 1982.
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    | timestamp = 01:30:00.720
    | text      = Secret war in the Falklands did not.
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    | timestamp = 01:30:02.760
    | text      = Mark absolutely wasn't in the Falklands war, but even if he was, he could have easily been
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    | timestamp = 01:30:07.260
    | text      = in that conflict and still made it back in time to murder Richard Baldwin.
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    | timestamp = 01:30:11.399
    | text      = So that is not an alibi.
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    | text      = He had time.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He had time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He had a month, whole month from June 6th, July 14th, almost a whole month.
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    | timestamp = 01:30:22.800
    | text      = Boy.
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    | timestamp = 01:30:23.800
    | text      = Could have done it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = 40 years and still can't write a good alibi.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = By the way, there were almost no US personnel in the Falklands war.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That was Britain and Argentina.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Beetlejuice Falklands.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:34.079
    | text      = Oh, sorry.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:30:35.079
    | text      = Beetlejuice Falklands.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Keep forgetting.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:37.079
    | text      = Come on, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We sat like missiles and maybe a couple people.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That was it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It was almost entirely the British and the Argentinians.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:30:43.640
    | text      = Well, all we needed to do was send captain Mark Richards.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:46.560
    | text      = The Dutchman's son is going to sort out the Falklands all day.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:49.439
    | text      = See that rebuttal is what ruins my argument.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The fact that it's not zero means it could have been Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:55.439
    | text      = It could have been Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:56.439
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:57.439
    | text      = Shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:58.439
    | text      = Still.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:59.439
    | text      = Statistically, it is possible.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:31:02.920
    | text      = Still does not prove.
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    | timestamp = 01:31:04.279
    | text      = Doubtful.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:31:05.279
    | text      = That he didn't kill Richard Baldwin.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:07.920
    | text      = Boy, you really got to write.
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    | timestamp = 01:31:10.000
    | text      = See this is the problem.
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    | text      = I don't want to read his book now because he's had 40 years to write a good alibi and
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:15.239
    | text      = he's not done it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:16.560
    | text      = I bet that book is just patently insane though.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:31:18.840
    | text      = Yeah, that's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:19.840
    | text      = I need a copy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:20.840
    | text      = I want to read it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:21.840
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:22.840
    | text      = So I wish I could find a PDF, but that obviously doesn't exist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's no way.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:27.319
    | text      = Nuh-uh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:28.319
    | text      = So we know that Mark got set up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:31:30.119
    | text      = We know that now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:31:31.119
    | text      = I mean, Carrie's proved her case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:31:33.159
    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:34.159
    | text      = Airtight.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:35.159
    | text      = I find no holes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = None.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:37.159
    | text      = Uh-uh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:38.159
    | text      = This is the opposite of Swiss cheese.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:39.159
    | text      = Nope.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:40.159
    | text      = Zero holes in this thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:41.159
    | text      = It is like Jupiter in that it is 100% solid throughout.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:45.439
    | text      = So we know that, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:47.920
    | text      = We don't know why he was framed exactly, but Mark has told Carrie a theory that he has
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:31:53.939
    | text      = that I think is awesome.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:56.560
    | text      = And Mark claims that the raptors had his back and were at his beck and call, and he was
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = very arrogant back then.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:04.960
    | text      = He was 29, and he was boasting while in the Falklands about how the raptors saw him as
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:11.399
    | text      = a hero.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:12.779
    | text      = He stated it was possibly because of this that they framed him for murder, although
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:17.079
    | text      = he doesn't know that for certain.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:19.279
    | text      = But it's a pretty good theory.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:20.279
    | text      = It is a great theory.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:21.279
    | text      = I like it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:22.279
    | text      = When he was walking around in the Falklands, he was too cocky about how much the raptors
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:32:28.039
    | text      = love him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:29.039
    | text      = Hey, we all make mistakes when we're young.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:30.520
    | text      = I know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He was the son of the Dutchman.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:32.520
    | text      = He thought he was hot shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:33.520
    | text      = Full of piss and vinegar.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:34.520
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:35.520
    | text      = He just won the Falklands war by himself as the only person the Americans sent.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:38.840
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:39.840
    | text      = I mean, of course he's going to brag a little bit about the raptors, and then they got to
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:43.000
    | text      = come down hard on him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:44.119
    | text      = Well, not the raptors.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:45.119
    | text      = The reptilians.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:46.119
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:47.119
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:48.119
    | text      = The reptilians.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:49.119
    | text      = The Draco Alliance, as it were.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:50.119
    | text      = I like that idea.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:51.119
    | text      = I really love it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:52.119
    | text      = They talk about your alien cult that you have, I guess, your hero worshiping.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:56.039
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:57.039
    | text      = And they're like, fuck you, bro.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:32:58.319
    | text      = This is a story of hubris that is as old as time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:03.239
    | text      = Absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:04.239
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:05.239
    | text      = So you brought up the Dutchman there, and we find out that Mark's dad was in play around
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:33:09.300
    | text      = the time of the murder.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:10.600
    | text      = He started the Falklands war, actually.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:12.760
    | text      = He didn't start it, but he finished it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:16.680
    | text      = That war only lasted like two months, by the way.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:18.680
    | text      = I mean, no war is good, but it's really weird to pick the Falklands war as like the deciding
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:25.159
    | text      = war for humanities.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:27.760
    | text      = We will lose control of the planet if we lost the Falklands war, because, I mean, first
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:32.319
    | text      = of all, it's a very short war.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:33.840
    | text      = The United States, the belligerents in it were really only Argentina and the United
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:38.159
    | text      = Kingdom.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:39.159
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:40.159
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:41.159
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:42.159
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:43.159
    | text      = He may have been referencing the Peter Falklands war.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:45.039
    | text      = No, I think it's the last really major world event before he went to prison.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:49.720
    | text      = Yeah, I would absolutely say so.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I think that's just why he thinks it's such a big deal.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:53.479
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:54.479
    | text      = Well, he looked into the time period.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:55.720
    | text      = If it's going to be an alibi for him, he has to put it around the same time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:59.560
    | text      = It has to be major.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:00.560
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And it has to be a war.
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    | text      = So there you go.
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    | text      = And so we get a little bit here in this next clip.
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    | text      = We get some news about the Dutchman and what he was up to around the time of the murder.
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    | text      = Well, he was eating lunch, obviously.
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    | text      = So around the time of the murder, Ellis Lloyd Richards, Mark's father, was seen as a hero
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    | text      = by the British and American Air Force and had just returned from fighting a war with
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    | text      = aliens in Kamchatka, Russia.
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    | text      = I think that Mark has been playing risk in prison because that's one of the parts...
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    | text      = That's one of the few parts that you can actually...
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    | text      = That connects Russia to the United States around the sides of the board, the risk board.
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    | text      = That makes the most sense.
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    | text      = Kamchatka is one of the regions at risk.
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    | text      = Because that's why they had the battleground there.
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    | text      = If he had brought up Irkutsk, I would be 100% sure that he's just been playing risk in prison.
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    | text      = Like, oh God, that'd be amazing.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = They don't actually have the pieces for the risk board.
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    | text      = It's all in your head.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You have to play it in your mind.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So his dad was fighting with aliens in Kamchatka.
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    | text      = Naturally.
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    | text      = Cool.
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    | text      = And he had time.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Then he had time to go get lunch, of course.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So in this next clip, Kerry talks about how...
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    | text      = Earlier, you know how I brought up that the Dutchman and Mark, their arch nemesis was
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    | text      = this Angleton, a CIA guy.
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    | text      = Kerry brings...
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    | text      = This story isn't true, man.
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    | text      = I like it when you don't even have the ability to give it anything.
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    | text      = You're just like, dude, this is just not true.
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    | text      = This is just whatever.
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    | text      = I enjoy this not true story about Kerry having her life at risk or some shit.
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    | text      = A side note, Project Camelot was directly threatened.
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    | text      = We were forced to abruptly close down.
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    | text      = We were told people would die, including us, if we pursued an important line of research
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    | text      = involving a leaked document from Angleton's files.
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    | text      = Oh, no.
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    | text      = We were forced to abruptly close down our investigation and fly back home.
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    | text      = At the time, we had been scheduled to do an interview with a key contact when we received
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    | text      = a phone call in our hotel room telling us to stop.
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    | text      = We decided not to pursue our investigation after being threatened, that if we did so,
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    | text      = sources related to our investigation would be killed.
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    | text      = As a consequence, the Angleton connection to the Mark Richards case reveals a very high
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    | text      = and deep reason for him having been framed and imprisoned now for nearly 40 years.
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    | text      = We are very aware of how high the Angleton connection goes with regard to the alien situation.
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    | text      = I'm very aware of how high you sound.
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    | text      = This is bullshit.
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    | text      = Yeah, that's ridiculous.
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    | text      = My firm, just like, boilerplate response to that is, nope.
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    | text      = I don't even care.
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    | text      = I don't care at all.
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    | text      = God, I want...
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    | text      = None of that happened.
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    | text      = Now, any time I get super drunk, I really wish that Blackout Jordan would just call
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    | text      = Project Camelot all the time and just say nonsense.
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    | text      = Just say nonsense stuff.
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    | text      = It's absolutely great, fantastic.
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    | text      = Here's the real story.
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    | text      = We were going to interview this source and the guy was like, I don't think I really want
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    | text      = to come.
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    | text      = And they're like, why don't you want to come?
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    | text      = We really need to do this interview.
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    | text      = I was probably...
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    | text      = I was threatened.
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    | text      = I don't believe that.
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    | text      = I was threatened.
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    | text      = They're going to kill me.
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    | text      = Yada, yada, yada.
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    | text      = It was great knowing you.
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    | text      = Hang up.
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    | text      = Beep.
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    | text      = Yeah, that would work.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You'd be her next big whistleblower.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So now, Kerry presents the idea in this next clip that the entire case against Mark Richards
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    | text      = was only based on the testimony of this Andrew, the other guy, the other kid who was involved.
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    | text      = I don't think that's true.
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    | text      = It's not true.
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    | text      = But then Kerry gets into something that is also not true.
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    | text      = With regard to the trial, according to Mark, the DA relied exclusively on information provided
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    | text      = by Andrew.
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    | text      = See above.
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    | text      = And there appears that Andrew was highly likely to have been a CIA undercover agent on the
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    | text      = scene orchestrating events while Hoover was the patsy.
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    | text      = Oh, okay.
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    | text      = Yeah, that makes sense.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = 17-year-old CIA orchestrator of SIOP operation.
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    | text      = They get to him young these days.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They get to him so young.
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    | text      = So stupid.
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    | text      = This is so stupid.
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    | text      = This is just disappointingly stupid.
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    | text      = But to hear someone repeating this shit is so stupid.
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    | text      = It's like, I get why Mark would say it.
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    | text      = I get that.
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    | text      = Oh, of course.
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    | text      = That part makes total sense to me.
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    | text      = He's an inveterate liar.
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    | text      = Why wouldn't he say that?
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = That part makes...
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    | text      = I have no qualms.
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    | text      = Kerry, I'm disappointed in you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I have no faith in you and I'm disappointed in you.
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    | text      = The idea that you're saying that this 17-year-old who Mark completely lured into this murder
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    | text      = plot, he's probably CIA, that's fucked up.
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    | text      = That's embarrassing.
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    | text      = That makes me want to get an old school projector, write out those words and just project it
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    | text      = up on Kerry's wall and just be like, Kerry, you said this.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = Do you want to read that out loud and see how it sounds now?
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    | text      = She believes it, I'm sure.
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    | text      = Or at least she's willing to believe it.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I don't.
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    | text      = I can't.
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    | text      = I can't.
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    | text      = I know.
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    | text      = I can't believe that she's willing to believe it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I have a tough time too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:39:33.359
    | text      = Yeah, it's tough.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = She has to be fucking with us.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, I mean, she is still saying that this is what Mark said.
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But I think that you have a responsibility if you're repeating these things and be like,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = this is what Mark said and he's full of shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = At least a little something.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:48.800
    | text      = Yeah, at least introduce some sort of skeptical voice to the proceedings and it gets worse
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:39:55.199
    | text      = later.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:56.199
    | text      = Oh, of course.
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    | text      = So in this next clip, I don't know if you know this, but Mark got a divorce pretty soon
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    | text      = after the murder.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I can believe it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = After he got arrested for the murder.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I can believe it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = His wife was kind of like, oh, that's why I got a video camera.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:40:08.840
    | text      = Not good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:09.840
    | text      = Do I get to keep the camera?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Can't enjoy that boat anymore.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = In the divorce, do I get the boat?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I don't think so.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I think that boat was evidence.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's no good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So she got a divorce from Mark, but it turns out that it was only because the mob made
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    | text      = her.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The mob.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Karen, Mark's wife at the time, divorced him during the trial.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark believes she was pressured by the mob to do so.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The mob.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = She apparently had family, her father who had ties to the mob.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The mob?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:40:38.520
    | text      = At one point, the judge fell asleep during the trial.
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    | text      = I don't blame him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:45.079
    | text      = Do not blame him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Unconnected thoughts.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, the mob made him fall asleep too.
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    | text      = I would suggest it was Mark that made him fall asleep.
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    | text      = If there's one thing that I take away from that 131 page interview with the detectives,
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    | text      = it's that like he's doing to them what he does to Carrie.
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    | text      = I think that is an important takeaway because it shows his patterns, like the way he works
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    | text      = with new information being integrated.
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    | text      = Like a shitty verbal kint, basically, a shitty usual suspects game he's trying to play, but
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    | text      = these detectives are like, you're really bad at this.
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    | text      = You fucked up.
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    | text      = It reminds me so much of Stone.
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    | text      = Like anytime Stone gets in trouble, you have, oh no, no, absolutely, but he's, you still
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    | text      = got that same pattern every time where it's like, do this first, say it didn't happen,
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    | text      = blame somebody else.
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    | text      = All liars are like that.
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    | text      = Most liars.
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    | text      = You gotta, don't you get bored, don't you get bored with your lies?
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    | text      = in the name, they're not really in control of being able to modulate when they lie or
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    | text      = They just kind of do it.
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    | text      = Some can do it more strategically than others, but the lie is almost like a tick.
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    | text      = You know, and you get that if you've ever met somebody who behaves that way, one of
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    | text      = the things that's really hard about it is that like oftentimes there'll be lies that
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    | text      = come out that are completely inconsequential things and it's like, well, you didn't have
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    | text      = to do that and then you start to realize like you just can't control it.
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    | text      = Oh, I mean, it's not a terrible strategy either to just lie about everything all the time
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    | text      = because then you don't even know if you're lying.
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    | text      = You know, you lie all the time about stuff that's inconsequential.
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    | text      = I think that that strategy is, I think it's overstated as a good strategy because I think
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    | text      = That sounds like a lie to me.
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    | text      = I just did a finger gun.
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    | text      = We just did some finger guns back and forth.
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    | text      = So that's the first thing that I take away from it that is like you get a real understanding
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    | text      = and appreciation for his pattern as a liar.
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    | text      = And then the second thing I take away from it is he's fucking boring because it takes
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    | text      = forever for them to get anywhere with him in the conversation.
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    | text      = He's talking circles and trying to play little games and stuff like that, but they're boring
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    | text      = games.
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    | text      = So that's why it takes 131 pages to get through what would probably have been 40 if it wasn't
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    | text      = just full of him being like, now I know you're going to walk out.
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    | text      = Look, I need to, like, I'm trying to be honest, all this stuff and weaving boring lies while
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    | text      = the detectives tell him we know what happened.
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    | text      = That could have been a very, very short interview.
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    | text      = Yes, absolutely.
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    | text      = But the point I'm trying to make is that like if this judge fell asleep, I get why.
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    | text      = Because I'm surprised they did that in court.
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    | text      = I'm sure.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I'm surprised the two cops didn't fall asleep at one point.
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    | text      = Well, they go out for coffee like three times, so that might have been a part of it.
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    | text      = Let's go get some coffee.
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    | text      = Jesus Christ.
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    | text      = This fucking guy.
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    | text      = Yeah, I'm sure.
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    | text      = Christ.
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    | text      = If there was a recorder in the coffee room, I'd be like, this fucking asshole.
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    | text      = So all of what we're talking about is predicated on the idea that Richard Baldwin is dead because
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    | text      = he got murdered.
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    | text      = Oh, no.
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    | text      = Is Richard Baldwin not even dead?
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    | text      = Lastly, Mark stated that it is also possible Dick Baldwin is alive and well in a witness
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    | text      = protection program.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Why?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = But he wasn't a witness.
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    | text      = Nope.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He would just be in a protection program.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Why would he be in a witness protection program?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Carrie, that's not how this works.
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    | text      = But at least she is still saying that Mark told me this.
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    | text      = That would be funny if he was a witness.
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    | text      = We have to wait until like two episodes of Project Camelot from now where Carrie starts
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    | text      = saying these things, but without the Mark told me this.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = That sort of shit.
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    | text      = So yeah, he is not still alive.
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    | text      = He was murdered with a baseball bat and a screwdriver, and then had his body dumped
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    | text      = in a bay, tied down with a motor from the boat very amateurishly, and that's why his
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    | text      = body came to the surface and was found, and then Mark was arrested.
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    | text      = Well, that's why his testimony really was so moving at the trial.
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    | text      = After you've been killed like that and you float up again, you got to put him in a protection
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    | text      = program.
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    | text      = You've been through a lot.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = That's why he's alive for sure.
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    | text      = There's a great moment, one of my other favorites, in that interview where they ask Mark a question
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    | text      = and Mark is responding to it, and it's about something that he had done a couple days prior,
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    | text      = and one of the detectives was like, do you think we weren't watching you?
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    | text      = It's like those moments are like, they're really funny to look at because it's Mark
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    | text      = Richards, but at the same time, I can put myself in that situation and that feeling
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    | text      = of hearing that, I'd be like, oh no.
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    | text      = Oh no.
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    | text      = It would be the scariest fucking moment in the world if my whole game is up, but he still
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    | text      = tries.
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    | timestamp = 01:45:45.880
    | text      = Nevertheless, he persists.
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    | timestamp = 01:45:46.880
    | text      = Oh boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Oh boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:45:48.880
    | text      = In trying to lie.
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    | text      = Little do you know this, Mark is innocent.
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    | text      = He's not, but Kerry thinks he is, and Mark is saying that he is, although Mark absolutely
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    | text      = knows that he's not.
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    | text      = And if only, look man, here's the thing.
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    | text      = Right after the trial, the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, they put out a report
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that exonerated Mark and proved that he was totally innocent.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:46:20.359
    | text      = Where did they put this report at?
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    | text      = Just in the office break room?
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    | text      = It seems to have disappeared.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh, gosh damn it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:26.640
    | text      = When Mark was arrested, the DIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, put together a report that refuted
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = every charge against Mark.
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    | text      = Mark believes that report still exists.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = At the time, there were several paper copies of the report made and distributed, which
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = was in 1982, and also it was sent to the DA's office.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:51.439
    | text      = The report was supposedly, has disappeared, but there are still copies around and if found,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:59.560
    | text      = it would instantly free Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:01.680
    | text      = Ain't gonna happen.
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    | timestamp = 01:47:03.119
    | text      = If found.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:04.119
    | text      = It ain't gonna happen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:05.119
    | text      = If found is a really, not something that you want with exonerating evidence.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = My friend, that report does not exist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:47:12.479
    | text      = Oh, that's a surprise.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I can say that with almost complete certainty.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I had to look up whether or not the DIA was even a real thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:19.520
    | text      = I was like, because so little of this is believable, any time somebody says there's any agency
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    | text      = at all, I'm going to look it up because it's like, this could not, this could just not
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    | text      = be true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:30.840
    | text      = It could be a fake thing?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:47:31.840
    | text      = Yeah, absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:32.840
    | text      = I understand your skepticism, but you've just showed your cards that you don't know a lot
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    | timestamp = 01:47:35.819
    | text      = about the government structure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:37.399
    | text      = I don't know a lot about the intelligence agencies.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I don't think that the DIA is something that comes up all that often.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:47:42.039
    | text      = No, because it's just, well, I just looked it up and it's pretty much just military intelligence,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = you know, that kind of thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's not something that's relevant to most normal conversation.
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    | text      = So it makes sense that someone wouldn't know that it exists, but it does.
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    | text      = That one's not made up, but the report is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That is 100% made up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:00.399
    | text      = That's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:01.399
    | text      = That's true.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:02.399
    | text      = So now we get back to this documentary maker, this British guy, and they're really grasping
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    | text      = at straws trying to discredit him, and you'll see what I mean here in this next clip.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Seeing the background of KM as detailed in the investigation by Paul Collin linked above,
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    | text      = one of the key things about that individual is that he has a, I guess, a sex shop in Amsterdam,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and it's very possible that that's linked to the mob and to the gay mafia, et cetera.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Do what now?
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    | text      = This is my conjecture, not Mark's.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Oops.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:48:43.399
    | text      = You should have just blamed Mark for that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:48:45.079
    | text      = Yeah, you should not have made that your own conjecture.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You could have kept that as somebody else's conjecture.
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    | text      = So does that mean that anybody who has a sex shop is conceivably in the mafia or working
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = with the gay mafia?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:56.720
    | text      = I really forgot this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:59.439
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:01.680
    | text      = His wife divorced him because of the mob.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:04.579
    | text      = There's a lot of vague mob shit going on that I...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:08.279
    | text      = Was it the mob or was it the gay mafia?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The mob was involved in the divorce.
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    | text      = The gay mafia is involved in this dildo shop in Amsterdam that this documentarian may or
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    | text      = may not run.
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    | text      = I didn't even care to look into that.
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    | text      = No, I'm fine with that either way.
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    | text      = That doesn't have any issue.
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    | text      = Even if the gay mafia is involved, that doesn't bother me.
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    | text      = Is there a gay mafia?
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    | text      = Why not?
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = I know there's a three-six mafia, so why not have a gay one?
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    | text      = They're Academy Award winners.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = I think this is a lot of bullshit, but it also is demonstrative of just how weak this
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    | text      = argument is.
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    | text      = They found out that he sells dildos, maybe, or someone who has the same name as him runs
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    | text      = a sex shop.
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    | text      = Frankly, I'm going to be honest with you, I think that only raises him in my estimation.
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    | text      = It's completely moot to me.
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    | text      = I do not give a shit.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Look, dude, in this documentary, this guy tracked down a number of people like this
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    | text      = pen pal of Mark Regency, family members of Baldwin, Mark's ex-wife, that sort of thing.
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    | text      = One of the other people that he tracked down was someone who used to work for Mark and
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    | text      = did not want to talk to him.
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    | text      = Now, this is very suspicious to carry.
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    | text      = The Lindbergh baby.
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    | text      = Bingo.
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    | text      = And one of the people KM has contacted is someone who works for Mark.
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    | text      = This person refused the interview and is loyal to Mark.
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    | text      = Mark states, the only way KM could have gotten the man's name is from the side of the government
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    | text      = involved with framing him.
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    | text      = This contributes to proof that KM has been tasked by them to further discredit Mark Richards
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    | text      = and in the process, Joanne Richards and me.
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    | text      = Can I offer an alternative explanation?
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    | text      = He just asked some people.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He just asked around.
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    | text      = Possible.
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    | text      = Possible.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Just went to San Rafael and just started asking around with contractors.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Was this his lieutenant that we referenced on his eighth or the seventh interview where
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    | timestamp = 01:51:00.079
    | text      = Mark Richards has a guy in prison who's still working for him?
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    | timestamp = 01:51:03.239
    | text      = No, no, no, no, no, no.
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    | text      = Has he come back?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = Did the mob kill him?
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    | text      = Probably the gay mafia.
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    | text      = Probably the gay mafia.
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    | text      = No, he hasn't come back in the...
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    | text      = I think Mark got moved to a different prison.
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    | text      = He's not in Vacaville anymore, so he might not have his lieutenant around.
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    | timestamp = 01:51:15.199
    | text      = Bastards.
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    | text      = But no, he's talking about...
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    | text      = Kerry's talking about this documentary and finding someone who used to work for him in
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    | text      = the contracting business and doesn't want to talk to him.
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    | text      = They're saying that it's because he's loyal to Mark, although the alternative also is
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    | text      = possible that he doesn't want to be...
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    | text      = I don't want to be involved in this.
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    | text      = Which is smart.
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    | text      = Hey, remember that thing that happened that really fucked everything up for you and kind
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    | text      = of made people talk to you about it over and over and over and over again?
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    | text      = A piece of your past you don't want to relive.
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    | text      = You know, that you don't really feel like you need to have.
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    | text      = Can we talk to you about that?
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = No?
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    | text      = Okay, then we're good.
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    | text      = You're loyal to Mark.
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    | text      = You must be loyal to him.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And then the other thing is just really basic journalistic, investigative journalistic skills
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = could find out the people who worked for him.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = If you go to, like, San Rafael, you go to Northern California, go around, ask some people,
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    | text      = go to the...
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    | text      = Like, ask some relevant figures.
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    | text      = He talked to Mark Richards' ex-wife.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = She would know some of the people that worked for him or at least be able to point him in
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = the right direction to find someone who does know.
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    | text      = And the fact that you already talked to people that have previously worked for him.
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    | text      = Oh, hey, guess what?
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    | text      = He also interviewed Crossy.
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    | text      = So, like, if you talk to Crossy...
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    | text      = Who else worked with you?
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh, okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Thank you for giving me the name.
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    | text      = I have to talk to the fucking government and it gives proof that they're...
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    | text      = He's in on the frame job.
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    | text      = It's nonsense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = But it turns out that he is working with aliens.
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    | text      = Oh, okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, naturally.
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    | text      = It appears that K.M. is working for the Luciferian Rebellion, also known as the Reptilian Gray
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    | text      = Draco Alliance.
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    | text      = That's unfortunate.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That Luciferian, those are...
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    | text      = He seems like a good guy.
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    | text      = Those are tough.
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    | text      = Oh, well.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:52:54.619
    | text      = So now we're done with the case and now we get to jump to the reporting that we get.
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    | text      = Because, you know, Mark Richards knows shit and it's not like this has all got to be about
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    | text      = the case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Carrie's making a trip down to this goddamn prison and writing down with a dull pencil.
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    | text      = She's not going to just do that as like damage control and running interference for her number
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    | text      = one whistleblower.
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:18.359
    | text      = She's still got...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He needs to blow that whistle.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's got to have goods.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:23.359
    | text      = You got to pay the piper and that piper needs bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:24.359
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:25.359
    | text      = So now we get to...
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And they didn't even...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:27.359
    | text      = See, here's the problem with K.M.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They didn't even bother talking to his spaceship.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:30.920
    | text      = Oh, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:31.920
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:32.920
    | text      = And the spaceship isn't held under...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:33.920
    | text      = Minerva is a free agent at this point.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:36.239
    | text      = But Minerva's in the wind too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We don't know where she is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:38.600
    | text      = We don't know where Minerva is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:39.600
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:40.600
    | text      = Goddamn it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:41.600
    | text      = According to Joanne Richards, it's not clear where Minerva is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:42.720
    | text      = Well, they got a divorce because of the mob.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Possibly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:47.640
    | text      = So we get to...
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    | text      = I would say that this first clip where we're talking Mark Richards info, his deep leaks,
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    | timestamp = 01:53:56.960
    | text      = is not good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:53:58.579
    | text      = It's not that exciting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:00.239
    | text      = But it is kind of blowhardy and vague.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:02.760
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:03.760
    | text      = I like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:04.760
    | text      = And then it turns at the end.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:05.899
    | text      = So it's worth it for that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:07.159
    | text      = But I'm not happy that this is the first one because I wanted to come in with a raptors
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:10.760
    | text      = eat your chocolate or something like that, but this is just kind of vague and stupid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:15.399
    | text      = But like I said, I enjoy the end of this clip.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:19.359
    | text      = Mark agrees with the following concepts.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:54:22.159
    | text      = One, that there are many different timelines.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:54:25.439
    | text      = Two, that Earth is a hologram and that this whole galaxy multiverse is in essence probably
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:54:33.840
    | text      = a series of holograms.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:35.619
    | text      = You see what I'm saying?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:36.619
    | text      = This is kind of bland, boring stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:39.319
    | text      = But hold on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:40.319
    | text      = Hold your horses.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:41.319
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:42.319
    | text      = So humans have simultaneous incarnations and reincarnate.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:47.840
    | text      = Time and space are simultaneous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:49.520
    | text      = Cool.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:50.520
    | text      = Mark thinks that our brain can assist other versions of ourselves on other timelines.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:56.319
    | text      = Why not?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:57.319
    | text      = And yes, there are armies of androids in underground bases, both under the US and in China underground.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:05.479
    | text      = And he has seen the Chinese androids.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:07.600
    | text      = Isn't that great?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:09.279
    | text      = That turn, isn't that amazing?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:11.039
    | text      = It's like, look, time and space are the same, the continuum, there are different timelines.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:15.439
    | text      = Your brain can help another version of yourself in another reality.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:18.800
    | text      = And yes, of course, we really need to settle this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:21.760
    | text      = I know everybody's been wondering, yes, there are androids underneath the ground in China.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:26.279
    | text      = Naturally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:27.279
    | text      = The underground area is lousy with androids.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:29.439
    | text      = So many androids and I've seen them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:31.760
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:32.760
    | text      = You're right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:33.760
    | text      = The way it's just like, yes, I'm tired of getting this question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:38.760
    | text      = Once and for all, androids underground.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:41.479
    | text      = I saw them.
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    | text      = I saw them.
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    | text      = So, you know, there's a lot of people who are worried in Kerry's community and the sort
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    | text      = of more paranoid paranormal folk about the idea of an alien takeover of the Earth.
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    | text      = And I have bad news.
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    | text      = It's already happened.
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    | text      = Oh, shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The takeover of planet Earth has actually already happened.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We are battling the six AIs ongoing.
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    | text      = We are also battling the Draco reptilians and certain species of Grays directly.
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    | text      = The Grays report to the reps.
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    | text      = The reps report to the Draco.
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    | text      = They are using AI as well.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And the Troggs are also an insectoid species that are also working against us.
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    | text      = Oh, boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:56:26.880
    | text      = When did the when did the Troggs get in here?
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    | text      = This is tough stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And we are.
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    | text      = Man, we are busy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We're battling all six AIs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We're battling the Luciferian Alliance.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Now we got Troggs coming in here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I don't even know where the spiders are anymore.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We're going to talk about the spiders.
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    | text      = OK, good.
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    | text      = I mean, it's like, you know, WrestleMania is coming up this weekend and it just it's
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    | text      = like we are in a cage match and it is a handicap.
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    | text      = It is.
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    | text      = Wow.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:52.239
    | text      = We have got six AIs fucking with us and we have a clearly regimented hierarchical structure
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:56:58.380
    | text      = of aliens who are all against us.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's not good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:57:02.800
    | text      = That is bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:57:03.800
    | text      = We really need Dr. Who at this point.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We're in danger.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Or at least Dr. Groop.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So to bring things that I don't know anymore about the A.I.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He doesn't say anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I really feel like that's important.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Six A.I.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Why six?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'll tell you this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It does feel important.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It does feel really important.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Six A.I. alone are fucking with the entire species and they're messing with us.
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    | text      = It seems important, but it's not, apparently, because we don't get any clarification on
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    | text      = it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's just a tossed off aside.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So taking it from that space nonsense, now we get into the terrestrial sphere and geopolitics.
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    | text      = So there's a lot of people who worry about, you know, our relations with the rest of the
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    | text      = world, be it China, Russia, Iran, these sorts of places.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Turns out Mark knows what's going to happen with all three of those situations.
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    | text      = Oh, OK.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:58:01.520
    | text      = Regarding the Iran war.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yes, it is happening.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They took troops out of Syria, but left the Russians in charge on the ground there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:58:08.920
    | text      = Naturally, there are androids on the ground there, too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We are working with the Russians in this war, which is actually what I have been saying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And the war with Iran does lead to the war with China.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And the Russians will side with the U.S. And there's more about this in the Hennuk prophecies.
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    | text      = Oh, great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = A prophecy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:58:29.680
    | text      = Oh, great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Oh, the the idea that Mark is just mirroring what she says is perfectly illustrated.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That I've been saying that for a long time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You can see exactly how that conversation must have gone down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = She says these sorts of things.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And then he picks up on context clues like, yes, absolutely.
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    | text      = That's correct.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's the intelligence that I've been getting from my higher up.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I can only corroborate exactly what you said, because you are right or so informed carry
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    | text      = on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's amazing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = My sources are just as good as my sources.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So earlier we got some strong indications that Mark's a bit of a racist, whether it's
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = the pen dragon, excluding black people.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's one thing that's not great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No, no, I'm not a huge fan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = His sort of racial profiling of the clerk at Montgomery Ward.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Not great either.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And that's why this clip sounds a little bit suspicious to me.
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    | text      = OK.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:25.279
    | text      = Sickle cell anemia.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:26.279
    | text      = Oh, boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The Australians are not compatible with this gene and it would rule out any person with
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = that code for genetic breeding, food, or even sexual purposes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:37.000
    | text      = Stop it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They cannot feed off the black race and I guess specifically off the parts of the black
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:44.420
    | text      = race that have sickle cell anemia.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:47.199
    | text      = Mark, you're a bad fucking dude.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There's no need for that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:51.239
    | text      = You know that other people get sickle cell anemia or sickle cell trait disorders.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's not a uniquely African-American thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And also, by the way, it's not like...
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The only people who get it are people who miscegenate, which they might as well be black
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = anyways, Dan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:08.479
    | text      = That's not true at all.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:09.479
    | text      = No, that's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:10.479
    | text      = Mark?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:11.479
    | text      = Calm down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:12.479
    | text      = You only know what you...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So we're all white.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:00:14.479
    | text      = White never?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:15.479
    | text      = Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:16.479
    | text      = Anemic?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:17.479
    | text      = Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:18.479
    | text      = A white anemic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:19.479
    | text      = Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:20.479
    | text      = That's what I'm saying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:21.479
    | text      = Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:22.479
    | text      = We didn't land on anemia.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:23.479
    | text      = Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:24.479
    | text      = Yeah, that to me is like a real gross.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:26.520
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:27.520
    | text      = Kind of like, well, they're not...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:29.520
    | text      = They're an other.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:30.520
    | text      = Really?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:31.520
    | text      = There's something genetically that's so different about them that the raptors or the reptilians
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:35.560
    | text      = can't even breed with them or feed on them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:38.560
    | text      = God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:39.560
    | text      = Why?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:40.560
    | text      = Why?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:41.560
    | text      = Why?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:42.560
    | text      = You could just not...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:43.560
    | text      = Well, because it's a...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:44.560
    | text      = Couldn't you just not?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:45.560
    | text      = Well, it's because he's racist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:46.560
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:47.560
    | text      = And he has a deep-seated feeling that people of different races are different.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:50.720
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:51.720
    | text      = And so while he creates his space mythology and all this stuff, it's a very convenient
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:56.520
    | text      = way to find some sort of an excuse inside your space mythology that justifies the racist
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:02.760
    | text      = feelings that you already have.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:04.640
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:05.640
    | text      = That's all that's going on here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:06.640
    | text      = And Carrie just can't see through it because she's fucking also racist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:09.039
    | text      = She is really, really racist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:11.119
    | text      = And dumb.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:12.119
    | text      = And very dumb.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:13.119
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:14.119
    | text      = So you wanted to know about the spiders.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:15.119
    | text      = I want to know about the spiders.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:16.840
    | text      = Did they invent the AI?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:18.119
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:19.119
    | text      = Is the AI fucking with them?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:20.840
    | text      = Dude, from this next clip, I think that the spiders might just be big spiders.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:31.760
    | text      = So they don't even really have any leadership.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:33.520
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:34.520
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:35.520
    | text      = All I know for sure is that Sardinia is crawling with spiders.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:45.520
    | text      = And there have been some reports of spiders in the Northern United Kingdom.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:49.479
    | text      = Oh, of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:50.479
    | text      = Here's what Carrie has to say.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:51.960
    | text      = They were eating all the badgers.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:53.279
    | text      = Here's what Carrie has to say about the situation with spiders currently on the planet Earth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:00.199
    | text      = I asked him about Sardinia because recently I was asked if I would lead a tour to Sardinia
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:08.039
    | text      = because there are many ancient sites there and lots of evidence of reptilian involvement.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:13.439
    | text      = However, I told Mark that I have declined to go to Sardinia because when I looked at
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:21.199
    | text      = it on a psychic, intuitive level, I saw that there were tons of spider beings and reptilians
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:28.960
    | text      = there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:29.960
    | text      = And Mark said I was absolutely right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:32.279
    | text      = He said he wouldn't even go there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:34.079
    | text      = He really agrees with you a lot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:35.079
    | text      = And it is true, not only in the past, but also now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:39.439
    | text      = And my apologies to the people that live in Sardinia, I think it's probably a very beautiful
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:45.399
    | text      = island.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:02:46.399
    | text      = Our thoughts and prayers go out to you.
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    | text      = I've seen pictures of it and I do apologize for this information, but what can you do?
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    | text      = Don't shoot the messenger, Sardinia.
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    | text      = I love that.
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    | text      = That is my favorite thing.
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    | text      = What can you do?
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    | text      = That is my favorite thing.
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    | text      = Sardinians.
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    | text      = Sardinians.
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    | text      = Sorry.
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    | text      = What are you going to do?
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    | text      = I don't like being the one who has to tell you this.
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    | text      = It's bad news.
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    | text      = Like the people in Sardinia have no idea.
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    | text      = All of a sudden they wake up and they're like, oh shit, Carrie just told me we were covered
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    | text      = in spiders.
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    | timestamp = 02:03:28.399
    | text      = Time to go.
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    | timestamp = 02:03:29.399
    | text      = Yeah, got to move.
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    | timestamp = 02:03:30.399
    | text      = Time to go.
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    | text      = But like I said, I think that they're just spiders.
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    | text      = And that's based on the rest of this clip, but I knew we needed a break after that.
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    | text      = That's too good.
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    | text      = Just for a comparison, from what I understand, Miles Johnston has a source that has told
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    | text      = him that there are spider beings hiding out in the area in North England called the Lake
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    | text      = District and in the tunnels there.
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    | text      = So that is also very disconcerting information.
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    | text      = It sure is.
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    | text      = So they're living in the tunnels like some sort of troll or ninja turtle.
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    | text      = He did say spider beings though.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = So he could just actually be talking about spiders.
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    | text      = Could be.
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    | text      = And they do live in England.
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    | text      = That's a documented fact.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = But I think that it's implied that's not worth talking about, that there are spiders places.
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    | text      = These are aliens.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = But here's what.
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    | text      = So she apologized to the Sardinians, but it's like, look, England.
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    | text      = That's on you.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = You asked for him.
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    | text      = No, to be fair, it does seem to be, it does seem to follow from the way she's talking
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    | text      = about it, that there's less in the UK, that there's a ton in Sardinia.
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    | text      = So many in Sardinia.
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    | text      = I don't fucking know, man.
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    | text      = I got nothing on that other than I'm sorry to the people of Sardinia as well.
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    | text      = I'm sorry.
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    | text      = Sardinians, dude, it's rough.
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    | text      = It's a tough situation.
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    | text      = I'm sorry that we had to be the second hand bearers of this.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:05:04.840
    | text      = You're a Sardinian listener of Knowledge Fight and you didn't know about Kerry pronouncing
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    | text      = that spiders are covering your land.
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    | timestamp = 02:05:11.239
    | text      = What are you going to do?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:05:12.239
    | text      = What are you going to do?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:05:13.239
    | text      = So.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:05:14.239
    | text      = Thoughts and prayers.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:05:15.239
    | text      = So Trump is a guy and Mark has some thoughts about him.
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    | text      = Oh, that's surprising.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Trump has been, or Mark has been kind of pro-Trump in the past.
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    | timestamp = 02:05:24.520
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:05:25.520
    | text      = And spoiler alert, he still is.
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    | timestamp = 02:05:26.800
    | text      = Surprise.
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    | timestamp = 02:05:27.800
    | text      = But this is phrased weird.
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    | timestamp = 02:05:32.060
    | text      = The Trump administration, they are the only ones fighting for us in the US at this time,
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    | timestamp = 02:05:38.840
    | text      = but there is something going on right now with that administration.
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    | text      = She does not say what that is.
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    | text      = That's it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:05:45.640
    | text      = That's it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:05:46.640
    | text      = That's all we get.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Oh, in this case, then once again, I am going to apologize to the people of Sardinia because
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    | timestamp = 02:05:51.680
    | text      = something bad's happening.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, but also once again, I'll say, I agree.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:05:55.159
    | text      = There is something up with this administration.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:05:56.680
    | text      = Yup.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:05:57.680
    | text      = Yup.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:05:58.680
    | text      = Until you qualify what you're talking about, I'm going to go ahead and say, yup, something's
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    | timestamp = 02:06:02.000
    | text      = up.
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    | timestamp = 02:06:03.000
    | text      = So this now takes a turn in a direction I could never have predicted.
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    | text      = That's why we do Project Camelot episodes.
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    | timestamp = 02:06:13.119
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:06:14.119
    | text      = If it didn't take a turn into the unpredictable, what's the point?
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:06:17.800
    | text      = But this isn't good, unpredicted.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:06:19.800
    | text      = Oh boy.
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    | text      = I asked him if Kevin Spacey was set up and Mark totally agrees that Kevin Spacey is being
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    | text      = set up because of what he knows.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:06:30.079
    | text      = Now that's just the perfect demonstration of him, yes, anding her.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But also, I wonder if it's just because Spacey is in his name.
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    | timestamp = 02:06:40.680
    | text      = Why would Kerry ask him if Kevin Spacey was set up?
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    | text      = Is that even a thing?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:06:45.520
    | text      = Because he was in K-Pax?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Is there a...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:06:47.760
    | text      = Well, that actually does sound right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:06:49.439
    | text      = I'm trying to think of any reason.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:06:52.619
    | text      = Is that a thing online?
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    | timestamp = 02:06:53.880
    | text      = Are people saying?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:06:54.880
    | text      = It's not something that I've seen.
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    | text      = I have not seen any conspiracy theories regarding that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm pretty sure universally everybody's like, yeah, he probably did that shit.
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    | timestamp = 02:07:02.800
    | text      = Well, there's the denialists and stuff like that that will go around, but that's just
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:07:07.079
    | text      = more of a...
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    | timestamp = 02:07:08.079
    | text      = Well, people are still denying for R. Kelly, but nobody's saying that Space being set him
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    | text      = up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:12.439
    | text      = Right, right, right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:13.439
    | text      = That's the version that I don't think I've ever heard.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:14.439
    | text      = I've heard just like, who gives a shit or this is all made up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:18.760
    | text      = Right, right, right.
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    | timestamp = 02:07:19.760
    | text      = But I've not heard anyone suggest that this is some sort of a he knew too much situation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:24.760
    | text      = It sounds like he did though.
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    | text      = That seems crazy.
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    | text      = That's wild.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:28.800
    | text      = That's wild.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:29.800
    | text      = It also seems crazy that Carrie's asking.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:30.800
    | text      = I don't understand that at all.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I do think it's just because he has space on his name.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I know that it sounds like I'm joking, but I think that's what's going on.
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    | text      = I wouldn't be surprised, but maybe sometimes they also just shit the shit, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:42.560
    | text      = Yeah, it could be.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:43.560
    | text      = Maybe they're just talking.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:44.560
    | text      = It could be.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:45.560
    | text      = Maybe this is an incidental thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:46.560
    | text      = We've already talked about raptors and shit, and now we're just getting to the news of
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    | timestamp = 02:07:49.720
    | text      = the day, which she just found out that Kevin Spacey is in trouble.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:07:53.840
    | text      = But since it took her for so long to figure out that the Spider-Man was bitten by a radioactive
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    | timestamp = 02:07:58.159
    | text      = spider, I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Spacey was breaking news for her.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:02.279
    | text      = Yeah, that's possible.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:03.279
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:04.279
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:05.279
    | text      = But you know what?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:06.279
    | text      = There's other news.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:07.279
    | text      = I'll be honest with you, towards the end of this, I really zoned out.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:13.439
    | text      = I was so bored by things that were being said, that when this next clip played, it was almost
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:21.000
    | text      = like I got jostled out of a sleep, or someone threw a bucket of cold water on my face.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:26.039
    | text      = I was like, what the fuck?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:27.039
    | text      = And I had to scroll back and be like, did I hear that correctly?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:31.520
    | text      = Because this is the craziest shit I've ever heard.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:35.560
    | text      = There was a raptor wedding in late February around the 28th, and Mark says this was a
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:42.039
    | text      = major wedding uniting two major raptor family lines.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:46.760
    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:47.760
    | text      = And Mark calls it a great love story.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:50.239
    | text      = There was a raptor wedding.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:53.840
    | text      = Did he just watch the Deer Hunter?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:56.079
    | text      = What is going on?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:08:57.159
    | text      = There was a raptor wedding, and Mark is happy for the couple.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:00.399
    | text      = Well it is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:01.479
    | text      = It's a beautiful love story.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:02.479
    | text      = Can I ask you this?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:03.479
    | text      = Why do raptors get married?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:04.960
    | text      = That's a human concept.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:05.960
    | text      = What are you talking about?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:07.699
    | text      = Why do they get married?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:08.699
    | text      = Monogamy is not necessarily a human construct or anything like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:12.640
    | text      = That does exist in the wild and all that sort of stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:15.840
    | text      = But the formal ceremony of marriage is something humans created.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:21.000
    | text      = It was brought to us by the raptors.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:23.800
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:24.800
    | text      = Boom!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:25.800
    | text      = Turn around.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:26.800
    | text      = Got it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:27.800
    | text      = How else are you going to allocate land to your family?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:30.960
    | text      = They live in space.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:32.359
    | text      = Well, how are you going to allocate certain sectors of space?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:37.920
    | text      = They're going to farm.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:38.920
    | text      = Jordan, I know you're like, this is good stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:42.479
    | text      = I'm trying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:43.479
    | text      = I'm trying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:44.479
    | text      = This is stupid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:45.479
    | text      = I want it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:09:46.479
    | text      = I want it.
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    | text      = Raptors are in love.
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    | text      = What about spiders then?
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    | text      = Do they get married?
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    | text      = Spiders can't get married.
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    | text      = Do reptilians get married?
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    | text      = Reptilians are evil.
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    | text      = Do grays get married?
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    | text      = Grays are evil.
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    | text      = What about dog beings?
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    | text      = Dog beings?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = They have little things.
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    | text      = Mantis beings.
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    | text      = They actually mate backwards.
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    | timestamp = 02:10:02.039
    | text      = Mantis beings?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = They kill each other.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = See?
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    | text      = The only race that makes sense to have marriage is raptors and Draco.
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    | text      = I just thought outside of the context of this being an episode where we're talking about
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Carrie Cassidy running interference for a fucking murderer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Raptor love?
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    | text      = That's a delightful clip.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There was a raptor wedding recently.
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    | text      = Why was he just... now he's just sharing news?
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    | text      = Now he's just sharing gossip around the... oh, and here's an update on Teresa, the raptor.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like the socialite news page.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Raptors were spotted getting married on Tuesday.
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    | text      = So we learned a little bit of human celebrity news with Kevin Spacey.
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We learned that raptors got married, solidifying an alliance between two major raptor families,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = which heretofore, we did not know that they were separated into families.
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And now we jump back to human celebrities because there was a death.
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    | text      = Kevin Sorbo.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Oh, okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There was a death in the celebrity world not too long back, and Carrie wants to know about
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    | text      = it.
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    | text      = Regarding Jan Michael Vincent, the actor, he was a close friend of Mark's and died of
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = alcoholism because he had seen too much, knew too much, and couldn't handle it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark had the utmost respect for him and misses him.
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    | text      = So Jan Michael Vincent.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Mark was friends with Jan Michael Vincent?
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    | text      = Apparently.
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    | text      = That is definitely one of those, this guy is just going to lie about fucking whatever.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There is no benefit to be gained from calling yourself a Jan Michael Vincent friend.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = No, I mean, there's something to be gained, I suppose.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You look cool.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The Jan Michael Vincent fans?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The Jan heads?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:11:49.239
    | text      = The Airwolf fans.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:11:50.239
    | text      = The Airwolf?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Maybe he just watched Airwolf as a kid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Or in prison.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Or in prison.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They got TVs in there and shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But I mean, at least that's current.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He died on the 10th of February, so that's pretty close to when Carrie was going and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = doing this interview.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It makes sense that Mark would want to lie about being friends with him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's cool.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Is that cool?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:12:13.600
    | text      = Yeah, it's real cool.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:12:14.600
    | text      = It's real cool.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:12:15.600
    | text      = Also real not true.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So here we have the last clip where Carrie, this is how she ends the episode, and I think
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that she's giving her audience advice that will work against her best interests.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:12:25.119
    | text      = No, that's not good.
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    | text      = I want to thank you for watching and for listening and for supporting the work of Project Camelot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Take care and please use discernment and do your own investigation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Thank you and good night.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:12:39.920
    | text      = Good night, Carrie.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:12:41.399
    | text      = The idea of saying you should do your own research is only going to lead people to realize
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    | text      = that she's full of shit and doesn't know anything, so I would advise her against telling people
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = to research things.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's a bad idea.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Although that's a bad look.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You don't want to be a truth teller and a truth seeker kind of person and be like, don't
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = look into this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = No, don't worry about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:01.800
    | text      = Don't worry about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:02.800
    | text      = Don't worry about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:03.800
    | text      = We've all been there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:04.800
    | text      = I got this covered.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:05.800
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:06.800
    | text      = Come on, trust me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:07.800
    | text      = Trust me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:08.800
    | text      = Trust me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:09.800
    | text      = Trust me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's so weird that Carrie decided to even get into any of the specifics of Mark's case
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = because she has such a poor grasp on the details of the case, what's going on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The way that she articulates her interactions with him are so parallel to that police interview.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It opens up a can of worms where it really reveals how manipulated she is by him and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = how willing of a participant she is in that manipulation along with him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So I just think it's a real stupid game to play.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's a dumb gambit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's a little disconcerting because it's almost like she's in a one woman cult.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:51.619
    | text      = Two women because his wife, Joanne.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:52.840
    | text      = Oh, that's right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:53.840
    | text      = Because his wife is there too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:54.840
    | text      = But yeah, it is a little bit like you are full on willing to do anything to justify
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = what it is that he is telling you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:03.039
    | text      = Her friend, Simon Parks, who talks to mantis beings, he's also in that cult.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:14:08.920
    | text      = As best I can tell, it's like a three person dance because yeah, even in the trailer for
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that docu-series that that guy is making, KM is making, he has some interviews with
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 02:14:21.840
    | text      = people who are into the UFO communities and stuff like that and they're like, it does
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = a really great disservice to people who are trying to actually look into these things
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:30.680
    | text      = for people to just pass off.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:32.520
    | text      = Just trust a murderer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:33.520
    | text      = Well, I mean, you know, I don't think they put it that way, but they like charlatanry
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = and stuff like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I think there's a fair point there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I think that's a salient point.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So even the mainstream quote unquote serious UFO folks don't like Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:51.880
    | text      = Of course not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:52.880
    | text      = So yeah, she is sort of in a world of her own.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I think I think that drawing attention to it makes her look so much worse.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:02.960
    | text      = So when she does draw attention to it, it just seems like this is stupid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:05.800
    | text      = You shouldn't do that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:07.399
    | text      = But you can only hide for so long.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I mean, like five years ago, most people weren't talking about him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:12.720
    | text      = That's what I was going to say.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:13.720
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:14.720
    | text      = And now, not that a lot of people are, but more people are aware of his story and the
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:18.680
    | text      = fact that he's a fucking murderer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And it's hilarious the fact that he's transitioned into this guy who's like, I know the raptors.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:26.859
    | text      = They get married.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:27.859
    | text      = They take your chocolate.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:28.859
    | text      = They're fighting against other beings and Beatles down in Vietnam and all wars are really
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:34.880
    | text      = just about Stargates and all this stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's pretty funny on some level when you uncouple it from the fact that he is the kind of guy
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:45.479
    | text      = who would manipulate a 17-year-old into murdering a guy who was in his wedding and tell him
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:51.720
    | text      = finish the job with a screwdriver.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:54.520
    | text      = Like when you take, you forget about that part, hilarious.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:59.399
    | text      = You keep that part in, still kind of funny, but also very upsetting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:03.600
    | text      = And tragic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:04.600
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:05.600
    | text      = There is a certain amount of parallel here with AJ too in that it's like...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:10.880
    | text      = Don't fucking call him AJ.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:11.880
    | text      = Ah, come on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:12.880
    | text      = I was trying it out.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:13.880
    | text      = I was having some fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:14.880
    | text      = I thought you were talking about Benza.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:16.880
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:17.880
    | text      = That because of the popularity, she's running this scam and the goal really for these types
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:25.279
    | text      = of scams is to keep them contained.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:27.840
    | text      = And once it starts getting out and you start getting attention, you're fucked up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:33.600
    | text      = You lose control a little bit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:34.600
    | text      = You can't do it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:35.600
    | text      = And so you wind up making bad decisions like trying to actually defend him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:38.399
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:39.399
    | text      = That's foolish.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:40.399
    | text      = But the difference is I think that Alex got paid and I don't know if Kerry did.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:43.479
    | text      = I doubt she did.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:44.479
    | text      = Well, at least not on the level of it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I don't think that she's necessarily responsible for the overexposure of Mark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = No, I absolutely agree.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:54.719
    | text      = But she's part of it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:55.719
    | text      = She is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:56.719
    | text      = She is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:57.719
    | text      = I think it's just a natural thing that's going to come out because it's an awesome story.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:17:01.079
    | text      = Yeah, that's true.
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    | text      = As long as a couple people start talking about the idea that there's this guy who got these
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    | text      = kids who worked for him to murder a guy, then he went to prison and started a career in
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    | text      = fan fiction or space fan fiction that he's presenting as real.
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    | text      = And oh, also before he went to prison, he was going to take over Marin County with lasers
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    | text      = that were going to destroy bridges and these kids were going to be knights of his round
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    | text      = table.
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    | text      = Like all that stuff, it's too good of a story for people to not enjoy or look into or pay
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    | text      = So you reach a critical mass once enough people are looking at the story that like...
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    | text      = It's almost destined to blow up if you're trying to pretend it's real.
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    | text      = Oh, of course.
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    | text      = It's too good.
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    | text      = Well, how many documentaries have you watched on Netflix with way less interesting stories
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    | text      = than this and you were still like, this is a pretty good documentary.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:17:54.799
    | text      = Yeah, I watched three episodes of The Staircase or whatever before I turned it off.
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    | text      = And you're like...
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    | text      = I'm sure maybe it gets good.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I'm sorry.
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    | text      = Not important.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = This is not the time to litigate The Staircase.
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    | text      = Someone could make an amazing series.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And this guy is doing that.
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    | text      = This KM guy is doing probably what will be an amazing series about this story and part
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:16.120
    | text      = of the story now is that Carrie is a victim of Mark's manipulation willingly and also
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    | text      = defensively.
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    | timestamp = 02:18:27.159
    | text      = Man, surprised we didn't even have the thought to make a documentary.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:31.079
    | text      = We should have gotten there first.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:32.079
    | text      = I didn't have the thought, but that's not like nearly within the scope of what I could
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    | text      = do.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:37.520
    | text      = We could call a guy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:38.520
    | text      = We need a team.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We could call a contracting service.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:41.319
    | text      = Call Larry Nichols.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:43.319
    | text      = Ah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:44.959
    | text      = We wouldn't be able to know the name of the contracting service, though.
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    | text      = It's not really named.
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    | text      = You know how much that would cost, though, too?
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    | text      = We don't have nearly the money.
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    | timestamp = 02:18:51.920
    | text      = Nah, we could find...
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    | text      = We put together a pitch.
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    | text      = We get the money.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:55.120
    | text      = We could pretend that we need to pay back a repatriation.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:00.000
    | text      = Yeah, everybody listening to Knowledge Fight right now, really go to the Patreon.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:05.520
    | text      = We need $2,500 by tomorrow, otherwise the government's gonna send us back.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:10.040
    | text      = Because the government took me out of Eastern Europe.
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    | timestamp = 02:19:12.680
    | text      = So that brings us to the end of this.
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    | text      = I think we've learned a bit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:17.840
    | text      = Mostly the Kerry is very dumb.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:19.840
    | text      = Very.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:20.840
    | text      = But I guess we didn't learn that.
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    | timestamp = 02:19:21.840
    | text      = No.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:22.840
    | text      = But we did learn about repatriation loans.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:24.600
    | text      = I suppose this is dumb in more of a...
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    | timestamp = 02:19:29.000
    | text      = I don't know.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:30.000
    | text      = I guess this is dumb in more of a concentrated evil way than it has been previous.
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    | timestamp = 02:19:34.120
    | text      = We started out very hard with her justifying a murder.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:39.280
    | text      = But I think that she hasn't read that interview with the detectives.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:43.440
    | text      = I think she hasn't looked at the court records or anything like that, but is pretending that
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    | timestamp = 02:19:47.139
    | text      = she did.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:48.360
    | text      = And I think that that is evil in negligence.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:51.879
    | text      = But I think that she's merely pretending that she has this information in her mind.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:57.520
    | text      = If she does have that information and she still believes this shit, then that's fucking
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    | timestamp = 02:20:02.399
    | text      = awful.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:04.120
    | text      = But I still think that she's bluffing about what she's actually...
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:06.620
    | text      = You think so?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:07.620
    | text      = Yeah, absolutely.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:08.620
    | text      = I don't know.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:09.620
    | text      = Because I wouldn't be surprised if she did read all that information and just summarily
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:13.959
    | text      = dismiss it as, I doubt she read the 131 page.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:17.440
    | text      = If you read that, you cannot imagine for a second that he's not a huge liar.
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    | timestamp = 02:20:22.079
    | text      = I don't think she read that.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:23.559
    | text      = But I wouldn't be surprised if she dismissed all of the court records and shit as being,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:28.600
    | text      = oh, it's just a railroad job and I don't even need to worry about it.
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    | timestamp = 02:20:32.000
    | text      = Yeah, perhaps.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:33.000
    | text      = But if so, then that's still negligent as fuck.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:35.799
    | text      = I mean, because you're defending a murderer without having read the evidence.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:39.520
    | text      = And evil.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:40.520
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:41.520
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:42.520
    | text      = Anyway, we have a website.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:43.520
    | text      = We do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:44.520
    | text      = It's knowledgefight.com.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:45.520
    | text      = Correct.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:46.520
    | text      = We'll be back on Monday with a new episode.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:47.520
    | text      = But we're also on Twitter.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:48.520
    | text      = We are.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:49.520
    | text      = It's at knowledge underscore fight.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:50.520
    | text      = Correct.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:51.520
    | text      = And I'm at go to bed Jordan.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:53.200
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:54.200
    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:55.200
    | text      = Isn't it interesting?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:56.200
    | text      = You started a Twitter and I got rid of my Twitter.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:57.840
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:58.840
    | text      = Almost fairly close to the same time.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:00.799
    | text      = Inverse.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:01.799
    | text      = Yes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:02.799
    | text      = We're also on Facebook.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:03.799
    | text      = We are indeed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:04.799
    | text      = You got a group called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:07.639
    | text      = Yep.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:08.639
    | text      = We're on iTunes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:09.639
    | text      = We are.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:10.639
    | text      = Great reviews.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:11.639
    | text      = Subscribe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:12.639
    | text      = All that good stuff.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:13.639
    | text      = Do it all.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:14.639
    | text      = So I would say, I mean, I guess I know that this Andrew, that guy didn't kill anybody.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:18.319
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:19.319
    | text      = I mean, he was involved in the plot, so I'm not going to-
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:20.760
    | text      = I would go with K.M.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:21.760
    | text      = K.M. didn't kill anybody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:22.760
    | text      = We don't know that.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:23.760
    | text      = He does run a sex shop in Amsterdam.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:25.760
    | text      = Don't know that.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:26.760
    | text      = That's true.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:27.760
    | text      = That's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:28.760
    | text      = Peter Falk didn't kill anybody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:30.520
    | text      = Not even in the Falklands.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:36.040
    | text      = Are you looking up whether or not Peter Falk killed somebody?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:38.360
    | text      = I am.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:39.360
    | text      = Oh no.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:40.360
    | text      = That would be the weirdest news.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:44.520
    | text      = The good people of Sardinia-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:45.799
    | text      = Who, again, apologies.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:50.120
    | text      = Most of them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:51.120
    | text      = I mean, I'm sure some Sardinians have killed people, but most of the population of Sardinia
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:55.319
    | text      = never killed anybody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:56.319
    | text      = About to be eaten by spiders too, so that's a bummer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:21:58.500
    | text      = But one guy who technically, not probably, absolutely killed somebody is Mark Richards.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:22:05.319
    | text      = Andy in Kansas.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:22:06.319
    | text      = You're on the air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:22:07.319
    | text      = Thanks for holding.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:22:08.319
    | text      = Hello, Alex.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:22:09.319
    | text      = I'm a first time caller.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:22:10.319
    | text      = I'm a huge fan.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:22:11.319
    | text      = I love your work.
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    | timestamp = 02:22:12.319
    | text      = I love you.
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