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    | title         = [[203: March 2-4, 2009]]
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    | episodeNumber = [[203: March 2-4, 2009|203]]
    | length        = 01:35:33
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    | text      = Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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    | text      = Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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    | text      = I love you.
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    | text      = Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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    | text      = I'm Jordan!
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    | text      = We're a couple dudes, like, sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Indeed we are, Dan.
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    | text      = Hey.
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    | text      = Dan.
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    | text      = What?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = When was the last time you lost a game of tennis?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Boy, I don't know if I've ever actually played tennis.
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    | text      = You don't think you've ever actually played tennis?
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    | text      = I think I've played it like recreationally, just fucking around with friends or something like that, but nah, I don't think I've ever played it.
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    | text      = You've never played, like, a game?
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    | text      = I've never played a game that actually kept score, let's say.
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    | text      = Okay, alright.
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    | text      = I have a couple buddies, my buddy CB, and my buddy James Desolation Williams.
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    | text      = Both of them are actually radios?
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    | text      = The two of them used to play tennis in high school, and I watched them play a couple times.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And it was really funny, because CB is kind of like a smaller Indian gentleman, and James Desolation Williams is a tall beanpole of a man.
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    | text      = Oh yeah? Is he?
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    | text      = Really funny, sort of playing together, but no, I don't, I'm not much of a tennis guy.
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    | text      = I think I played racquetball once?
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    | text      = You played racquetball? I don't even know what that means.
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    | text      = Is there one where you're in a little glass enclosure?
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    | text      = Yeah, what even is that game?
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    | text      = I was just messing around at the gym.
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    | text      = Nah, that's a crime.
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    | text      = Look, my-
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    | text      = That game is just a box.
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    | text      = Right, it's for rich people to have business meetings while they sweat.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Or something like that.
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    | text      = Yeah, like squash or something.
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    | text      = I guess that means I've never lost a tennis game.
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    | text      = So that's inspiring.
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    | text      = That is inspiring.
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    | text      = Yeah, I'm one of the best.
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    | text      = Think of what you can do when you don't do it.
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    | text      = Yeah, look at all these people who have losing records.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Better than them.
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    | text      = Hell yeah.
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    | text      = Alright.
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    | text      = So, this is a show where I'm one of the best tennis players in the world, and I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = And I am marginally better than you at tennis, and I know nothing about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Right. So, Jordan, we've got an episode to do today, but before we get to that, I thought it might be best just to talk a tiny bit about our last episode.
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    | text      = Not to put too much of a shitty veneer on our show, but I don't think either of us were happy with it.
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    | text      = No. No, I don't think so.
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    | text      = For those who, you know, people who listen to it, we got into a bit of an argument about whether or not the New York Times should burn their source, their anonymous source.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I think that one criticism that came back was the idea of it being an editorial instead of a journalistic piece, and there's a little bit of a difference there.
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    | text      = I still stand by my position that you do much more damage than good by revealing an anonymous source.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, I too stand by your position.
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    | text      = I thought about it a lot, and I was like, ugh, after calming down, that was a rough day as far as being alive is concerned.
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    | text      = We're all a little bit out of sorts. There's a lot going on, clouded heads.
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    | text      = There's a lot going on, yeah. So I just fucked up, man. That was a bad argument. It was stupid.
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    | text      = I respect your ability to say so. I don't think any less of you for holding those positions, and I think people...
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    | text      = The reason that I ended up leaving it in, even though I don't feel good about it, is that I think that there's a value for people to see that we don't agree about everything, you and I, let's say.
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    | text      = Well, we do later whenever I'm not furious at you. Well, it's not at you. When I'm not furious.
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    | text      = But even beyond that, I think that there's a value to people disagreeing, and whether it gets anywhere or not, being able to discuss varying viewpoints.
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    | text      = I think that there's something to that. Whether or not it's the best bit of podcasting we've ever done, I'll say no, probably not.
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    | text      = And then there's another further value, and this is just about my psychological state, and that is that I feel a great, tremendous amount of anxiety when I put out a product that I don't think is very great.
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    | text      = And I don't feel that very often with our show. I think our show generally is something that I'm proud of and I feel really good about.
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    | text      = And so there is something to be said for like, we put it out, I don't feel great about it, and I didn't die the next day. So there's that.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Anyway, if that frustrated you a great deal, sorry about that. Us too? Anyway, onward and upward and on to greener pastures.
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    | text      = Anyways, the point being, don't give in to your blood, lust, and fury. That's my advice.
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    | text      = There's an even greater value in you passing that message along to me.
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    | text      = Yeah, no kidding.
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    | text      = Speaking of great value, I'd like to give a- True value hardware? Are we talking about them?
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    | text      = We have a new sponsor.
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    | text      = We have a new sponsor.
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    | text      = True value hardware. No, but we do need to give a couple shout outs to some new donors.
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    | text      = Very excited about this. I'd like to say thank you so much for joining up with the team and becoming a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Sarah?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = That almost sounded like a question because of my elision. Because I lost track-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I was a little bit confused.
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    | text      = Lost track of my clips.
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    | text      = Sarah?
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    | text      = No, thank you so much Sarah. We appreciate it very much.
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    | text      = Also, I'd like to say thank you to another person who has joined up with the team.
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    | text      = I'd like to say thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk, Steven.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you Steven.
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    | text      = Thank you very much Steven.
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    | text      = If you would like to become a policy wonk and support our show, you can do so by going to knowledgefight.com, clicking that support the show button.
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    | text      = We would appreciate it.
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    | text      = Indeed you can. That would be nice.
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    | text      = Yeah. So Jordan, today we are back in 2009.
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    | text      = Hey!
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    | text      = We have passed the point where the Tea Party has gone nationwide with the National Chicago Tea Parties on February 27th of 2009.
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    | text      = Whenever people of all shades of white got together to really talk about what were they mad at? Taxes?
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    | text      = Something like that.
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    | text      = Sounds more like a black guy was president.
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    | text      = We've got some real interesting tax stuff to talk about today.
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    | text      = Tax stuff? Oh boy.
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    | text      = I got some stuff I'm very excited to get into, but we need to track this as it goes.
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    | text      = So we're going to start where we left off on March 2nd, 2009.
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    | text      = We will get through about March 4th. I'll be honest, we're going to halfway through March 4th.
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    | text      = We're going halfway through March 4th.
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    | text      = I turned off the show and walked away from it.
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    | text      = It got a bit bad.
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    | text      = It's not that it's bad. I was just like, there's a point of surreality that Alex Jones' show gets to at some points.
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    | text      = Especially back in 2009.
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    | text      = And I just kind of felt high a little bit. I was like, I've got to get away from this.
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    | text      = His show made so little sense.
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    | text      = So later, I'll go back and listen to the rest of the 4th and if there's anything else to amend or add as an addendum, we'll do that.
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    | text      = But for now, March 2nd through halfway through March 4th.
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    | text      = It was the equivalent of listening to LSD.
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    | text      = Somewhat, yeah.
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    | text      = So we're going to start, as we generally do, with an out-of-context drop from today's episode.
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    | text      = I'll tell you right now that if we make it through this martial law and can back this new world order off, that I do intend to adopt little brown babies.
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    | text      = Alright, Alex.
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    | text      = Alright.
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    | text      = Woo.
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    | text      = It's a conditional statement.
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    | text      = Wait, what?
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    | text      = Should we defeat the new world order?
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    | text      = Should we defeat the new world order?
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    | text      = Which, never we will.
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    | text      = Probably not.
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    | text      = Never.
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    | text      = Even based on his own mythology, there's no way to really defeat them. We can just push them back.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = But if he pushes them back far enough, he's going to adopt some little brown babies.
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    | text      = Is this like every 10 yards he adopts a new brown baby? Is this like a football match?
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    | text      = Football match.
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    | text      = Something along those lines.
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    | text      = Yeah, very weird.
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    | text      = I will say that was a part of where I needed to turn it off.
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    | text      = Yeah, I believe that. I believe that entirely.
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    | text      = So, we'll start here on the second.
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    | text      = And I believe the last time we were in 2009, I mentioned that Bob Chapman had been on.
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    | text      = And Bob Chapman mentioned George Soros in passing, and Alex didn't respond to that at all.
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    | text      = And I predicted, hey, I bet pretty soon Alex is going to start talking about George Soros.
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    | text      = Shockingly, our first clip.
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    | text      = That fast. That fast.
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    | text      = On March 2nd, Alex brings up George Soros.
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    | text      = I forgot to even play this last week. I've got to pull it up.
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    | text      = John, I sent it to you. It's the George Soros clip.
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    | text      = Kurt Nimmo wrote an article about it, Steve Watson.
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    | text      = George Soros admits elite plunging oil to bankrupt Middle East.
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    | text      = They now admit they're doing it.
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    | text      = So, a couple of very fine points that I think are appropriate to make here.
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    | text      = The first is that this is still not his normal George Soros is running all this nonsense.
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    | text      = Good God.
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    | text      = So, he still isn't on the George Soros tip.
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    | text      = I'm not satisfied with that.
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    | text      = But it is really interesting because in this time that we've been covering,
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    | text      = and some 2008 stuff that I listened to before our coverage of this began,
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    | text      = he's not talked about Soros at all.
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    | text      = This is the first time that he's brought him up as some sort of an evil, nefarious force.
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    | text      = And he doesn't sound familiar with Soros at all.
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    | text      = If you listen to the tone of his voice there, it's like,
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    | text      = this guy, Soros, pull that clip up of this guy, Soros.
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    | text      = Who's Soros over here?
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    | text      = Anybody got Soros? What's going on here?
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    | text      = So, I looked into it and I can't find this article by Kurt Nimmo.
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    | text      = I searched Infowars' site. I can't find it.
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    | text      = But I did find some interesting stuff about Soros and oil in the end of 2008.
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    | text      = Are you sure you didn't, did you search Infowars' site for like,
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    | text      = I hate Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, with a bunch of exclamation points?
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    | text      = Because I think that would have found it.
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    | text      = I didn't find that.
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    | text      = You didn't find that?
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    | text      = No, but what I did find is this, there's an interesting piece in the New York Review of Books
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    | text      = that goes over, Soros went before the US Senate Commerce Committee oversight
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    | text      = at a hearing on June 3rd, 2008.
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    | text      = And they give a slightly amended version of all of his comments.
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    | text      = And what he is expressing to the House Oversight Committee here is that
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    | text      = you look at the price of oil and how it's gone up dramatically at this period of time.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = You see a 90% increase in just 18 months.
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    | text      = That's a lot.
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    | text      = That's what the situation is at the time.
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    | text      = You see an average price of like $2.50 a gallon at the pump go up to over $4 a gallon.
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    | text      = He's discussing about how this probably is representative of a bubble.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That is a piece of like over-speculation.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = People over-trading in commodities is what's causing this.
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    | text      = There's nothing in his speech here, nor any of the other pieces that I've been able to find
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    | text      = from around that time of sorts being like, the elites are going to plunge this shit.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's questioning against the idea that people are amateur investors, let's say,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = getting in and hyper-inflating the price of oil.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And it has nothing to do with the actual supply and demand of what a market would do.
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    | text      = And so he's...
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = What kind of genius could possibly predict that?
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    | text      = Dan, that is too brilliant.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's like if somebody were looking at...
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I'm just going to choose something from just at random.
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    | text      = Let's go with Bitcoin.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like if somebody were looking at Bitcoin and seeing that price keep raising,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = keep going higher, and then buy their own Bitcoin,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = there's no way that enough people would be able to do that to create this massive bubble.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And no investor would be smart enough to say,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = anytime a massive bubble is created, there's probably going to be a crash.
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    | text      = Too smart.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He has to be connected to the elites, Dan.
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    | text      = I rest my case.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Let's just think of housing.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That would never happen.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:53.600
    | text      = There's some really interesting things that he says within this address before this oversight hearing
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = that are very counter to what Alex is saying his position is.
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    | text      = Here, quote,
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    | text      = There is a strong prima facie case against institutional investors pursuing strategy of investing in commodity indexes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's intellectually unsound, potentially destabilizing, and particularly harmful in its economic consequences.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = When it comes to taking any regulatory measures, however, the case is less clear.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Regulations may have unintended of adverse consequences.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = For instance, they may push investors further into unregulated markets, such as shiploads of oil,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = which are less transparent and offer less protection.
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    | text      = So he's making an argument that these are the consequences that you see when people get into irresponsible commodity index trading and stuff like that.
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    | text      = These are some of the things you can see.
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    | text      = Not bad, but what you also have is a possibility of like, oh, should we regulate this?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That might have negative consequences.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So even, I mean, all of this seems like stuff that Alex should be okay with.
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    | text      = So you're saying that his speech was essentially, I know this is going to go wrong, but I don't know how to fix it.
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    | text      = No, no, not at all.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I think he does actually know how to fix it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:11.600
    | text      = What did he say?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:13:12.600
    | text      = What did he say?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, so he's talking about, quote, I find commodity index buying eerily reminiscent of a similar craze for portfolio insurance that led to the stock market crash of 1987.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I remember that one. I was born in it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = In both cases, institutional investors are piling in on one side of the market and they have sufficient weight to unbalance it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = If the trend were reversed and the institutions as a group headed for the exit, as they did in 1987, there would be a crash.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Index buying and speculation that follows trends reinforce the prevailing direction of prices and have a destabilizing effect by aggravating the prospects of a recession.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The effect will be reversed only when the recession begins to take hold and demand declines, but it would be desirable to rein in index buying and speculation while they are still inflating a bubble.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So what you do is right there. His advice is very clear. It would be desirable to rein in this index buying and speculation while there's still a chance to do so.
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    | text      = Yeah, but he also said that he doesn't know if regulation is the way to do it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = But he's not even in that sense. He's not necessarily advocating for regulation.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = No, I know. That's what I'm saying.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's why his investors should start reining it in of their own accord.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh, he's cautioning investors.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh, all right.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I'm still not okay with that. I'm for regulation.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I understand, and I think that maybe there is something to that, but also the idea that it could have unforeseen consequences is also very valid.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = My point is that I find no evidence that George Soros admitted that the elites are crashing oil at all.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh, is that where we started?
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    | text      = I only see evidence of him being very concerned about the rise of prices in oil in the late part of 2008 and trying to advise calmer heads and a better way to deal with them.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, and he didn't even know what was coming.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:03.600
    | text      = Terminator had the rise of the machines next, so he never had a chance.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:07.600
    | text      = Now, you may think you know what's coming, but Alex actually knows what's coming.
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    | timestamp = 00:15:17.600
    | text      = Okay.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:18.600
    | text      = Well, we know what they're saying they're going to do next, and let me tell you, it goes from bad to worse.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, they are going to destroy the economy,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:33.600
    | text      = and then right at the point of peaceful revolution with the states taking the nation back and the people waking up, the feds are going to bomb the daylights out of the United States, Israel, and other countries.
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    | text      = You can guarantee it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:44.600
    | text      = All the intellectual evidence, all the data points, and I have hundreds of them, literally thousands of different systems and ideas and data and past operations and history that I integrate and bring forward.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:15:57.600
    | text      = That's when a good police detective, they say, oh, he's got a nose, or he's got a hunch.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's not a hunch. It's doing the job for 10, 15, 20, 30 years. It's eating, drinking, and sleeping something.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You get a very scary power of being able to understand what the establishment's going to do.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:16:18.600
    | text      = Except all of those predictions didn't happen. None of that happened.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:16:22.600
    | text      = They didn't bomb the hell out of the United States or Israel.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:16:25.600
    | text      = The market didn't crash. It only got better from this point forward.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's why doing the things that he's warning are going to destroy everything.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:16:32.600
    | text      = The states didn't come in and dissolve the union as he's masturbating, thinking about it at this point in his life.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I still argue they should have.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's the worst detective ever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:16:42.600
    | text      = Well, yeah, but I think that myth-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = His nose is very off.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:16:46.600
    | text      = But that's the myth of the detective. None of them can do that shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:16:49.600
    | text      = That's why crimes weren't solved until like the 1990s.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:16:53.600
    | text      = Nobody knows who committed any crime before we got computers and forensic evidence.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's a very interesting stance.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:16:59.600
    | text      = That's a fact. That is a 100% fact that until DNA-
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I think DNA is almost-
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:07.599
    | text      = No, I know DNA. Well, actually, that's probably true, too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:10.599
    | text      = At least CSI-type shows that I have in terms of our perception that you're expressing, right?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:15.599
    | text      = Oh, yeah, absolutely. No, nobody's ever solved a crime. Actually, I'm going to lean towards that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:19.599
    | text      = Ever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:20.599
    | text      = Ever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:21.599
    | text      = All crimes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:22.599
    | text      = Not one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:23.599
    | text      = Back over.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:24.599
    | text      = Every hunch you've ever had, bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:26.599
    | text      = Uh-huh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:27.599
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:28.599
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:29.599
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:30.599
    | text      = Well, if all detectives are as good as Alex, I say hurrah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:32.599
    | text      = Let's reopen every cold case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:34.599
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:35.599
    | text      = And warm case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:36.599
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:37.599
    | text      = Is that what they're called when they're solved?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:38.599
    | text      = Let's let everybody out of prison.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:39.599
    | text      = Is it called a warm case when it's solved?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:41.599
    | text      = No, it's not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:42.599
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:43.599
    | text      = It's cooked.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:44.599
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:45.599
    | text      = It's done.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:46.599
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:47.599
    | text      = No, because a cold case is one that's gone cold.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:48.599
    | text      = Well, yeah, but-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:49.599
    | text      = Would the opposite be a hot case?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:50.599
    | text      = Well, but you didn't even say hot case. You said warm case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:52.599
    | text      = Well, there's got to be a middle ground.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:54.599
    | text      = What, a case that's in purgatory?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:57.599
    | text      = A limbo case?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:17:58.599
    | text      = No, because the cases aren't called frozen cases.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:18:00.599
    | text      = There's cold.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:18:01.599
    | text      = Cold.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:18:02.599
    | text      = Warm.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:18:03.599
    | text      = Hot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:18:04.599
    | text      = Frozen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:18:05.599
    | text      = Who cares?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:18:06.599
    | text      = Let's move along.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:18:07.599
    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = What do you got?
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    | text      = In this next clip, Alex expresses some of his views about geopolitics, which is interesting.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = And it's good to take note of this where we are in March of 2009.
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    | text      = This is still where he's at.
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    | text      = Your thoughts on Iran versus Russia.
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    | text      = Is this all just WWF fake wrestling grandstanding, or is there really a threat there?
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    | text      = What, of Iran going to war with Russia?
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Do you think that's a possibility?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = I appreciate your call.
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    | text      = You know, they've had some problems in the past, and Russia has tried to take over territory
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    | text      = in Iran's mountainous north before.
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    | text      = What?
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    | text      = But it's Russia there that is building their peaceful nuclear reactors.
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    | text      = It's Russia giving them a lot of technology, and so I don't see a big issue there.
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    | text      = I see Israel with Benjamin Netanyahu striking Iran and starting World War III.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = So where we're at, very clearly, Russia and Iran, cool.
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    | text      = Israel, not cool.
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    | text      = Hang out.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So that's where he's at in 2009.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = In 2009, I think he was probably right on with that assessment, though.
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    | text      = Like, Netanyahu was wild and out.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = No, no, no.
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    | text      = I agree.
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    | text      = He was our board Jacob Williams back then.
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    | text      = Just because he may have been hanging out with Nick Cannon at the time.
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    | text      = I still think his assessments are wrong just because...like, I do agree that he's much
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    | text      = closer to on point in terms of, like, Iran's capabilities weren't defensive.
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    | text      = They were...it was a peaceful nuclear program.
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    | text      = I think he's wrong about Russia quite a bit.
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    | text      = But he is more accurate about Iran and Israel at that time, at least the governments of
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    | text      = the countries.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = So there's that.
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    | text      = The only thing I find really all that interesting is denoting the difference, you know, denoting
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    | text      = the change.
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    | text      = Right, right, right, right.
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    | text      = And we're still here.
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    | text      = That hasn't changed yet.
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    | text      = He also expresses pro net neutrality opinions on these episodes.
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    | text      = So that's another thing that still hasn't changed.
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    | text      = Everything is, everything is...
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    | text      = We're still waiting on the pivot.
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    | text      = As long as it's anti-Obama, he's for it.
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    | text      = The moment it's pro his team, of course.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Stupid.
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    | text      = So he starts to take some calls, and he gets a very interesting call from a guy who reminds
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    | text      = him of something that he should not need to be reminded of.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = George in Texas, you're on the air.
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    | text      = Welcome, George.
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    | text      = The clown.
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    | text      = Yeah, just to remind your listeners, today is Texas Independence Day.
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    | text      = Victory or death, my friend.
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    | text      = Texas Independence Day.
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    | text      = Anything else?
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = You know, I was sitting there reading about the Alamo, and I can tell you one thing.
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    | text      = I was all inspired because even though they were outnumbered by the Mexican army, they
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    | text      = stood their ground, and even though they all died, they would not succeed.
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    | text      = They would not bow to a dictator.
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    | text      = And that's something that the listeners should take in their minds.
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    | text      = What?
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = And, you know, they made that watered down whitewash, kind of demonizing the folks at
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    | text      = the Alamo a few years ago when it was a dismal failure.
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    | text      = No amount of media propaganda against those men that died is going to work.
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    | text      = And we salute the defenders of the Alamo today.
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    | text      = Thanks for reminding me.
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    | text      = You should not need to be reminded of your favorite thing.
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    | text      = He's based his entire life on Colonel Travis.
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    | text      = That should be his birthday, Texas Independence Day.
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    | text      = That's all he cares about.
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    | text      = He's more of a, he only goes to church on Easter and Christmas.
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    | text      = You know what I'm saying?
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    | text      = Like, come on.
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    | text      = Easter, Christmas, and Texas fucking Independence Day.
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    | text      = Those should be, he should have the Texas Independence Day tattooed on his arm, quite
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    | text      = frankly.
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    | text      = You should not need to call her an hour into his show.
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    | text      = You should get busy.
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    | text      = Bullshit.
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    | text      = I love trees.
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    | text      = I don't remember Arbor Day.
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    | text      = Well, Arbor, fair, but you don't make your whole life about, like, what Arbor Day stands
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    | text      = for.
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    | text      = Oh man, I keep, haven't you heard me refer to myself as an oak three million times?
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    | text      = No, but you have called yourself the Lorax more times than I'm comfortable with.
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    | text      = I speak for the trees.
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    | text      = I write it on birch.
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    | text      = So, Alex has some guests on this show, mostly unnotable, boring interviews, but he does
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    | text      = have an interview with a guy named Professor George Grayson about the menace that is coming
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    | text      = from Mexico.
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    | text      = Now, Alex is not so much anti-immigrant at this point, although he is suspicious.
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    | text      = He is more concerned about the idea that Mexico is going to collapse and that is going to
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    | text      = lead to everyone spilling over into America from a sort of globalist planned collapse.
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    | text      = I have never heard anybody demonize immigrants before or even demonize an entire country
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    | text      = just in case immigrants come over.
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    | text      = That's crazy.
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    | text      = It's still so different than the current day version of it.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = No, it's not let's murder them at the borders, but it's still.
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    | text      = The demonization is still so much, at this point, generally, although he may drift into
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    | text      = it at times, it's still very different from like placing an individual, a fuck you immigrant
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    | text      = person.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:23:05.619
    | text      = It's more abstract.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So as far as I can tell, George Grayson doesn't seem like he's crazy.
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    | text      = I looked into it, he's a legitimate, you know, he's a professor and he's written extensively
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    | text      = on cartels and the Mexican state.
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    | text      = And so Alex asks him, what I would say is probably his like, this is the big question
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    | text      = and he might not get the answer he wants.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Let me throw this question out at you.
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    | text      = Texas security has said in Texas, both state and federal, I've had a state senator and
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    | text      = a state rep on in the last week on the subject quietly, they say the national guard is on
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    | text      = one of its highest alerts, preparing to even have to shut down the border.
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    | text      = They have to, that they believe there is a chance they won't stay on air.
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    | text      = They say that's classified, but they say they know the percentage they claim, but they say
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    | text      = a good chance Mexico may completely collapse from deeply studying this professor.
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    | text      = Do you think that's accurate?
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    | text      = No, Mexico's not going to collapse.
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    | text      = That's tough, man.
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    | text      = This is your expert here and he's really, really invalidating your state senators that
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    | text      = you've had who have secret knowledge of percentages that they can't say publicly.
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    | timestamp = 00:24:22.160
    | text      = When will he learn not to have an actual expert on?
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    | text      = It's tough.
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    | text      = He's right up there with that volcano guy.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = No.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:24:30.039
    | text      = No.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:24:31.039
    | text      = That's bullshit.
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    | text      = Excuse me, professor.
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    | text      = I am hearing that there will be a real life version of Rainbow Brite brought into this
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    | timestamp = 00:24:39.720
    | text      = world from Texas University.
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    | text      = Can you respond to that?
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    | text      = Based on my book, if you'd read it, I very clearly lay out that that's not going to happen.
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    | timestamp = 00:24:49.279
    | text      = Okay.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:24:50.279
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:24:51.279
    | text      = You know what, though?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:24:52.279
    | text      = Here's the thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They were having a perfectly amicable interview up till this point.
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    | text      = So Alex probably had every reason to think he's going to say this and the guy's like,
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    | text      = you bet.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You bet it is.
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    | text      = Just because the guy was polite?
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    | timestamp = 00:25:03.240
    | text      = No, no.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Not even just the politeness.
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    | text      = They were on a similar wavelength about a lot of stuff, about the idea of cartels taking
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    | text      = over patches of territory and stuff like that, a lot of stuff that you can have a coherent
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    | text      = conversation about.
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    | text      = It's just when Alex starts getting into his narratives, then any academic is going to
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    | text      = be like, hold on now.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:25:24.440
    | text      = I don't know about that.
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    | text      = It's just like you and me whenever we're having a conversation, then all of a sudden I veer
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    | text      = too far into bloodlust and you're going to be like, ah, no, we were having a great conversation
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    | text      = up until that point.
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    | timestamp = 00:25:34.480
    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:25:35.480
    | text      = And sometimes I'm not wholly prepared to deal with it.
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    | text      = And you just keep going.
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    | timestamp = 00:25:40.519
    | text      = But I have a heart problem.
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    | timestamp = 00:25:42.119
    | text      = That's fine.
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    | text      = So, yeah, I agree, man.
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    | text      = He shouldn't have actual smart people on the show.
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    | text      = No, it's a terrible idea.
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    | text      = It makes the bubble a lot harder to maintain.
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    | text      = You know, his information war bubble is very easily pierced when confronted with someone
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    | text      = who's not playing ball.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And I think he's learned that lesson in modern day, certainly.
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    | text      = He has not had a reasonable person on there in, what, three years?
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    | text      = Look, I don't have a timeline, but I'd say that's probably very fair.
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    | text      = I think the last time might have been, let's see.
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    | text      = Was it one of our 2000, was it like a time travel episode in like 2013?
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    | text      = What do you mean?
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    | text      = Was that whenever...
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    | text      = Who are you thinking of?
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    | text      = Tina Dell?
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    | text      = Tina Dell.
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    | text      = That was in 2008.
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    | text      = Oh, shit.
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    | text      = That was way back.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = That's before this.
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    | text      = Nevermind.
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    | text      = No, no.
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    | text      = I retract that.
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    | text      = I was just trying to think.
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    | text      = Like, I don't know.
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    | text      = Would you call Russell Brand saying?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = Not entirely.
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    | text      = Not entirely.
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    | text      = I would call him reasonable.
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    | text      = Often.
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    | text      = Oh, I guess he had Bill Ayers on.
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    | text      = That's true.
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    | text      = That was just for a stunt.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = We got to get Bill Ayers.
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    | text      = Anyway, also, the other thing, along with, like I said, we're just sort of tracing trends
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    | text      = here a little bit.
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    | text      = You have Alex being pro-Iran, anti-Israel.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = As I mentioned, he's still pro-neutrality at this point.
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    | text      = He's also still a bit against the military in this.
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    | text      = He discusses how the military thinks of people of Arab descent.
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    | text      = This is very weird.
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    | text      = I mean, Alex, it's ridiculous the way.
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    | text      = And see, a lot of people say, well, hey, you're Muslim and, you know, you're guilty and it's
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    | text      = okay.
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    | text      = You should be a patriot and let the police come in and spy on you.
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    | text      = No, they say, let me say, there's always been how they love the Arabs.
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    | text      = They're not racist or bigoted.
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    | text      = Let me tell you, in the military, you're called hajis.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And you're not human and it's a big joke when they just shotgun a little kid and the kid
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    | text      = blows in half, they go rogue leader, I do a little bastard, look at him crying.
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    | text      = I mean, it's just, you know, hey, let's get this family's car and run over it with a tank
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    | text      = and there's video.
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    | text      = Yeah, look at this family drive by and it's just.
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    | text      = And these people think that they're going to be safe in a government run by people like
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    | text      = this.
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    | text      = No, they're going to loot and rob all of us, folks.
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    | text      = Criminals are in control.
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    | text      = You are 100% right, Alex.
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    | text      = And by the way, they fund and train the military to commit these atrocities.
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    | text      = And they put out the Abu Ghraib on purpose.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The CIA put that out.
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    | text      = That's been documented to make America be hated.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And now they're saying America's fault for everything.
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    | text      = It's going to implode.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:26.099
    | text      = A new bank of the world's going to form.
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    | text      = You understand the mastermind setup of this?
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    | text      = Make America hate it again, Dan.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = That's that's what I guess he's saying is.
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    | text      = That's why in 2016 you vote white, Dan.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:28:40.519
    | text      = That way they can't do it to us.
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    | text      = Vote white.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You get a you get a black president.
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    | text      = All of a sudden they're going to mistreat Muslims and then they might mistreat you.
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    | text      = I'm confused.
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    | text      = You get a white president.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You're going to mistreat Muslims.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Who doesn't love to do that?
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    | text      = I'm confused by that line of thinking, but not so much confused to hear it sort of being
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    | text      = espoused by Alex.
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    | text      = Also, I don't know about the idea.
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    | text      = Like, if I just take a step back, I'm like, all right.
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    | text      = So he's saying that the CIA put out all the information about Abu Ghraib, like, as a way
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    | text      = to make us look bad in the world.
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    | text      = I would ask, what else do you want to do?
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    | text      = If that's going on, what are you what are you going to do?
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    | text      = I don't want them to not tell the world about that.
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    | text      = That's a very serious issue, the abuse of prisoners and torturing people and shit like
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    | text      = that.
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    | text      = You do you need you have to take your lumps.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, the world thinking that that's bad is good.
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    | text      = I mean, at the time, it's kind of like they had nothing to lose because everybody already
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    | text      = knew it anyways.
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    | text      = Mm hmm.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:29:42.559
    | text      = Like the CIA can release all the Abu Ghraib stuff they want in 2009.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:29:46.559
    | text      = But everybody in the world was like, you guys are fucking torturing people since 2004.
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    | text      = Well, but I still don't I still don't understand Alex's angle on it.
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    | text      = You know, like, I don't understand the nefarious piece.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:29:58.000
    | text      = I further don't understand what he would prefer.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like, I don't get I don't get what the alternative.
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    | timestamp = 00:30:02.200
    | text      = That's a good question.
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    | text      = I don't get what the alternative that he would like is America looking good.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I would like for the like, but that doesn't seem like that's what he wants either.
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    | text      = I would like for them to have not behaved that way.
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    | text      = That's what I would like.
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    | text      = It seems what he would like is they all keep that under wraps.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Which kind of flies counter to his whole thing.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's very confusing.
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    | text      = I don't it's strange for Alex to be like the government should have withheld this information
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    | text      = from the public.
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    | text      = I don't understand how all that tracks from what he was saying, and especially hearing
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    | text      = like all this, like, hey, in the military, they call you hodgies.
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    | text      = They hate you.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = All this stuff.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's like pretty soon you're going to be talking about how the military is all patriots and
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    | text      = stuff like that.
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    | text      = I don't I don't I don't get where I mean, I have my theories, but it's very weird to
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    | text      = hear this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:54.279
    | text      = Like, they're all full of racists and they fucking hate you.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:56.680
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You know, like the cops.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:58.680
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:30:59.680
    | text      = And he said that before in 2009.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's like any any anybody who's a symbol of authority in 2009 is associated with a government
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = that's out of control, whereas now we have a government that is under control.
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    | text      = Well, and then even for him, even before that, he started to get the narrative that there
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    | text      = is a counter coup beneath the surface against globalist forces within the military and police
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:26.839
    | text      = and stuff.
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    | timestamp = 00:31:27.839
    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And you know, we talk we talk a bit about like why it's important to cover Alex Jones,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = why it's important to focus on this stuff.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And one of the reasons is because I believe and I think a lot of right thinking people
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    | text      = would agree with me in this, that often he is someone who serves as a conduit into much
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    | text      = darker things.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:31:48.119
    | text      = Now, on another level, more mainstream things than Alex, say Fox News, those sorts of things
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    | text      = serve as conduits to him, which then lead people further down the hole into like overt
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    | text      = white supremacy and white nationalism.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's like when you get lost on Wikipedia for a while and all of a sudden you're like, holy
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    | text      = shit, when did I get into the Boer War?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You never know what you're going to learn.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = But why I why I think that this is this is something I would like to bring up at this
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    | text      = point is because towards the mid end of this episode, Alex gets a call who actually expresses
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    | text      = exactly that, but as a positive thing.
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    | text      = Interesting.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:29.559
    | text      = Hey, how are you doing?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:31.880
    | text      = Good, sir.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Hey, I just wanted to thank you, first and foremost, for what you've done for the country.
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    | text      = And I believe that you're a patriot for what you do.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:42.440
    | text      = Thank you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm on a mission.
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    | text      = God bless America.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:45.440
    | text      = I'm sorry?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:46.440
    | text      = I'm on a mission.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:48.519
    | text      = Thank you.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:49.519
    | text      = Thank you, sir.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I just wanted to say that I'm new to all of this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm new to politics and it's been quite an eye opener.
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    | text      = This past election is what got me into it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = My mom got me into watching.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I wonder why.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:09.440
    | text      = Fuck me that first.
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    | timestamp = 00:33:11.059
    | text      = What's different about that election?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:12.059
    | text      = This one thing led to another.
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    | text      = Led to another.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I eventually found your show and you opened my eyes to quite a few things.
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    | timestamp = 00:33:23.359
    | text      = And I listen to a lot of the radio shows out there, just about all of them, and I think
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    | text      = you're the best out there because you're speaking the actual truth.
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    | timestamp = 00:33:35.640
    | text      = The other guys, they're great, but it's like they're scared to talk about what really needs
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    | text      = to be talked about.
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    | text      = Or they nitpick a lot of them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:45.920
    | text      = There's a lot of great folks though.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:47.279
    | text      = Some of them nitpick about everybody else.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Just because it's fun, Alex complains literally all the time about Glenn Beck.
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    | text      = At this point in his career, he hates Michael Savage, calls him Michael Weiner all the time.
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    | text      = That's because he's a nitpicker.
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    | text      = That's all he does, Dan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:34:03.680
    | text      = He just nitpicks.
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    | timestamp = 00:34:04.680
    | text      = Certainly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:05.680
    | text      = What a wiener.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:06.680
    | text      = Well, that's what he's saying is the problem with all these other places.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:34:09.239
    | text      = They're a bunch of wieners with their nitpicking, Dan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:11.679
    | text      = But if you see there, this caller is talking about like, okay, so my mom got me watching
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:16.039
    | text      = Fox News and I started to go down the rabbit hole, then I found you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:20.300
    | text      = And then once I found you, which is mostly, it's like hardcore drugs, the other stuff
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:26.360
    | text      = wasn't good enough anymore because you've convinced me that you are actually the one
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:34:30.659
    | text      = giving the real truth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:32.719
    | text      = So then I listen to other people and I think that they're full of shit because you've trained
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:35.559
    | text      = me to think that they're full of shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:34:37.280
    | text      = This is how indoctrination works.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:39.139
    | text      = This caller is expressing exactly how the path downward works.
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    | timestamp = 00:34:44.039
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:45.039
    | text      = So that's fun.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:46.039
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:47.039
    | text      = Dead on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:48.039
    | text      = Yeah, it's a bummer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:49.039
    | text      = It's a bummer, especially in the context of like, thank you for doing that, Jeff.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:52.960
    | text      = Yeah, I know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:54.159
    | text      = I just found politics, which is like, okay, how did you?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:58.400
    | text      = All right, fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:59.800
    | text      = And then I went to Info Wars.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:02.800
    | text      = Fuck!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:03.800
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:04.800
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:05.800
    | text      = You could have done anything if you just found politics.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:07.480
    | text      = You were a blank slate.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:08.480
    | text      = You didn't know anything could have happened and it said you wound up going to Alex Jones?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:13.000
    | text      = Fuck, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:14.000
    | text      = Well, you know, people who maybe aren't that smart, things filter downwards.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:20.079
    | text      = And also Alex Jones is really-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:21.199
    | text      = Trickle down bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:22.199
    | text      = I mean, if you're not paying that close of attention, Alex Jones is really entertaining.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:35:25.320
    | text      = So it makes sense that if you accidentally stumble onto him and you're just kind of like,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:29.199
    | text      = oh, this guy's blowing my mind.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:30.800
    | text      = Yeah, he is more entertaining than Hannity.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:33.239
    | text      = I'll give you that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:34.239
    | text      = Yeah, no doubt.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:35.239
    | text      = Combs was around, sort of dark times with Hannity and Combs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:38.559
    | text      = Oh, that's right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:39.559
    | text      = I remember that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:40.559
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:41.559
    | text      = Why did he ever have a co-host?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:42.559
    | text      = That's a terrible idea.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:43.559
    | text      = Very boring show.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:44.559
    | text      = They were trying to pretend they were fair and balanced.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:45.559
    | text      = Ah, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:46.559
    | text      = Oh, those were fun times.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:47.719
    | text      = Good times.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:48.719
    | text      = When they used to, they at least made the effort to pretend back then, you know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:53.599
    | text      = Right, right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:54.599
    | text      = Which you got to tip the cap to a little bit or not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:56.920
    | text      = Do you?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:57.920
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:58.920
    | text      = I'm pretty sure you don't.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:59.920
    | text      = But you do need to tip the cap to this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:00.920
    | text      = Nice transition.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:01.920
    | text      = And that is, we've listened to a lot of Alex's show.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:04.760
    | text      = He sings along with a lot of music, but we've never seen him become self-aware about the
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:10.320
    | text      = fact that he's singing along to a lot of music on his show.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:16.519
    | text      = It seemed like yesterday, but it was long ago.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:21.679
    | text      = She was lovely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:23.199
    | text      = She was the queen of our lives, there in the darkness with the radio playing low.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:29.679
    | text      = You are a nitpicker, sir.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:32.679
    | text      = All those drifters' days are past me now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:36.599
    | text      = I've got so much more to think about, deadlines, deadlines and commitments.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:44.880
    | text      = It's the Alex Jones Karaoke Show, brought to you by Ecolablu.com.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:49.719
    | text      = Against the wind, against the wind.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:53.880
    | text      = All right, Burnus.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:55.639
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:56.639
    | text      = See, now that's how I wish he would do his ads from now on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:59.280
    | text      = Oh, totally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:00.280
    | text      = He would do the highwayman and then drop it and just like, hey, we got Easter sales on
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:06.440
    | text      = the way.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:07.440
    | text      = Yeah, it's more fun, I would say.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:09.039
    | text      = Yeah, it's way more fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:10.039
    | text      = So then he's talking, Jason Burmas is in studio, and they're announcing that Jason Burmas is
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:14.840
    | text      = now going to be doing a nine to midnight show on the Info Wars Network, brought to you by
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:20.679
    | text      = the Genesis Communications Network.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:22.440
    | text      = I don't know how successful that was.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:24.599
    | text      = I don't ever care to find out.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:26.400
    | text      = Jason Burmas sucks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:27.760
    | text      = Who is Jason Burmas?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:28.760
    | text      = I've never met this cast.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:29.760
    | text      = Yes, you have a hundred times.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:31.039
    | text      = I have not met Jason Burmas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:32.559
    | text      = Yes, you have.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:33.559
    | text      = What are you talking about?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:34.559
    | text      = We've talked about him a bit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:35.679
    | text      = What are you talking about?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:36.679
    | text      = He's a...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:37.679
    | text      = Refresh my memory then.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:38.679
    | text      = He's kind of Alex Jones' main sidekick at this point.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:41.000
    | text      = Like he's a guy who's made some 9-11 documentaries.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:43.639
    | text      = Oh yeah, now I remember.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:45.840
    | text      = He's on a bit, but we don't listen to him all that much because he's kind of a David
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:48.760
    | text      = Knight-y character.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:49.760
    | text      = A little boring.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:50.760
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:51.760
    | text      = No, that's fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:52.760
    | text      = I remember him now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:53.760
    | text      = I remember him now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:54.760
    | text      = He's boring.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:55.760
    | text      = He's one of his main guys.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:56.760
    | text      = He sucks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:57.760
    | text      = Yeah, he does.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:37:58.760
    | text      = So that brings us to the end of March 2nd, and there's not a lot going on there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:03.360
    | text      = There's nothing really about the Tea Party, nothing really about Soros except for that
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:08.400
    | text      = first quote.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:09.400
    | text      = We got our first mention.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:10.400
    | text      = Yeah, so that's some nice progress, but at the same time, really, there's not...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:14.239
    | text      = Yeah, it's boring.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:16.079
    | text      = This is a no man's land where we kind of hoped we would find something.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:20.199
    | text      = Yeah, we would see an acceleration at least.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:22.760
    | text      = And there's not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:23.760
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:24.760
    | text      = So now we go...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:25.760
    | text      = We're in a holding pattern.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:26.760
    | text      = This is the third, and we get to Alex talking about some fears that metastasize and become
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:35.480
    | text      = something else a couple of years down the road.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:38.400
    | text      = Spiders.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:39.400
    | text      = We were told by Walmart managers in 2002 that there was a secret program with Walmart distribution
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:46.079
    | text      = centers and Walmart facilities under martial law to be where people are taken to be given
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:50.920
    | text      = the forced inoculations, and people didn't believe us.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:53.400
    | text      = And then two years ago, it came out in mainstream news that Walmart was indeed involved in,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:38:59.000
    | text      = quote, helping during emergencies with emergency inoculations, and they did drills all over
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:03.760
    | text      = the country.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:04.760
    | text      = You can Google all of this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:05.960
    | text      = You know, Walmart does vaccination drill, or Walmart does emergency preparedness drill,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:15.159
    | text      = and people pull into the Walmart and drive through, and they give you shots.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:22.199
    | text      = Now first they did it with jelly beans.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:23.840
    | text      = They did drills where they would give you a jelly bean as if it was your pill.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:26.840
    | text      = Jelly shots.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:27.840
    | text      = Jelly shots.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:28.840
    | text      = Then they now have drills where you actually show up for the drill, and they advertise
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:32.739
    | text      = it locally, and the citizens get free flu shots, and you drive up, and the Army sits
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:39.599
    | text      = there in injunction with the flu vaccine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:42.719
    | text      = How dare they give you free vaccinations?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:44.119
    | text      = So they're beta testing this and drilling the firemen, drilling the police, drilling
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:48.320
    | text      = the National Guard, drilling the Walmart employees, other businesses are involved.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:53.599
    | text      = So look, oh, this is really just misrepresenting the fact that they give out vaccines at Walmart.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:00.440
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:01.440
    | text      = And they probably have done some drills in terms of, like, you know, should there be
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:05.280
    | text      = a crisis?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:06.400
    | text      = How can we effectively serve the population?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:08.519
    | text      = Smallpox came back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:09.599
    | text      = Guess what this huge-ass building is?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:12.360
    | text      = It's a Walmart.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:13.360
    | text      = Let's vaccinate people in a Walmart because it's a big fucking building.
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    | text      = And then further, you have to consider how many Walmarts there are in America and how
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    | text      = many Walmarts are in towns that have no other central meeting place.
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    | text      = Like, if you didn't grow up in a small town, you don't understand that sometimes you live
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    | text      = in a town where Walmart is the town square.
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    | text      = It's where I hung out in my small bullshit town.
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    | text      = That wasn't the case in Colombia when I was growing up, but Colombia is so close to a
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    | text      = I'd hang out with people who grew up in Mexico, Missouri, of Oz, places like those cities
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    | text      = where it's like, there's nothing to do except go to the fucking Super Walmart, though on
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    | text      = Friday nights, the kids would all go hang out at Walmart.
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    | text      = It's like a cheap version of being a mall rat, like there's just nowhere else to hang
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    | text      = But there is no mall.
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    | text      = No, there's no mall.
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    | text      = So the idea that, like, hey, it would be a very strategic, smart thing to do for public
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    | text      = health to work with Walmarts to give people vaccines, not force vaccines on them or anything
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    | text      = like that, but also then you have to...
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    | text      = As opposed to the local Pentecostal church.
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    | text      = So now you have to...
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    | text      = Well, not every town has one of those.
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    | text      = Most towns do have a Walmart, maybe not tiny, tiny towns, but you understand.
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    | text      = Tiny, tiny towns have...
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    | text      = They don't need them because they still have, like, you know, snake rituals, so they don't
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    | text      = need vaccinations.
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    | text      = The snakes make them strong.
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    | text      = It's basically the same thing.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So the important thing here is that this brand of fear is exactly what motivated Jade Helm.
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    | text      = This is exactly what was behind the Jade Helm fear of a government takeover.
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    | text      = There were all these Walmarts that closed down and people were like, oh, my God, that's
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    | text      = where they're gonna house the detainees when they take over the cities.
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    | text      = So Alex, his whole thing in the present has been like, I didn't get on Jade Helm stuff.
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    | text      = He's like, six years before, you are giving the proto-narrative that led to the Jade Helm
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    | text      = fears.
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    | text      = So maybe, I don't know, we would still have to go through that period of time to find
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    | text      = out exactly what he was saying when Jade Helm 15 was going on.
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    | text      = Our next investigation is...
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = No more investigations.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = He's laying the groundwork for the people who did make those conspiracies.
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    | text      = So whether or not he was actively involved, he's the granddaddy.
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    | text      = Right, right, right, right.
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    | text      = So that's fun.
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    | text      = Anyway.
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    | text      = I mean, hey, look, it's not a terrible idea.
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    | text      = If I was going to put a lot of detainees somewhere, I would either surround them with a pit of
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    | text      = snakes a la Indiana Jones.
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    | text      = And then they could get their vaccines that way.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = Or I would put them in a Walmart.
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    | text      = You know how easy it is to keep people docile in a Walmart?
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    | text      = You never see people freaking out at a Walmart, even at the checkout aisle because somebody
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    | text      = has 12.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = Everybody's cool in Walmarts.
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    | text      = There's so many distractions.
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    | text      = Oh, yeah.
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    | text      = It's easy to contain people there.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = You just lock the doors and no one would notice.
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    | text      = I don't know if that's true, but I know that this next clip represents...
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    | text      = The greeters would have a very different job.
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    | text      = They'd be on the other side of that being like, I'm sorry, you can't leave yet.
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    | text      = Do you want some peanut butter cups?
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    | text      = They're over there.
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    | text      = Just constantly trick people to walk away from the exits.
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    | text      = Somebody will walk away when there's a peanut butter cup involved.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Fire sale on peanut butter cups.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Free peanut butter cups in the back.
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    | text      = So, like I said, I don't know if what you're saying is true, but I know what Alex is going
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    | text      = to say in this next clip.
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    | text      = Not true.
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    | text      = And it's about how popular he is.
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    | text      = We were up here working late last night and I went and picked up hot dogs from a local
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    | text      = hot dog place.
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    | text      = Well, hot dog!
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    | text      = And I go in and the two people behind the counter were fans of the show.
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    | text      = Three that came in.
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    | text      = Three different groups of people that came in while I was there getting hot dogs.
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    | text      = They were all fans.
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    | text      = Just an example of how big this show's getting and how effective, thanks to you out there
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    | text      = spreading the word.
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    | text      = And one guy said, you know, you're kind of down on Obama.
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    | text      = Didn't he really close Guantanamo?
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    | text      = And I said, no.
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    | text      = He'll look at closing it in one year and he has said they're going to continue rendition,
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    | text      = secret arrest, and not follow the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or Geneva Convention.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And I gave him some of the headlines.
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    | text      = You know, Obama backs Bush on no rights for detainees.
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    | text      = Credit where credit you?
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    | text      = And I said, just Google that.
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    | text      = And I had another guy, when I was walking down the street the other day, he'll come
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    | text      = over and start talking to me and say, hey, you know, I liked it when you were on Bush,
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    | text      = but it seems like you're even more against Obama.
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    | text      = That's because the globalists are making their move right now like never before and endowing
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    | text      = him with this godlike messianic messiah-type system.
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    | text      = None of these people exist.
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    | text      = But yeah, my credit where credit's due, Obama did continue a lot of those negative programs.
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    | text      = Hey, it's a bummer.
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    | text      = Should be a black stain on his presidency forever.
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    | text      = But I don't believe those people at the hot dog stand existed, I don't believe those conversations
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    | text      = happened the way he's pretending they did.
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    | text      = How big was this hot dog stand?
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    | text      = Huge.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There were that many people hanging out there.
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    | text      = It's Austin doesn't have a Walmart, so they have a hot dog stand.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So they have a hot dog stand.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They have the town hot dog stand.
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    | text      = It's the hub of social life.
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    | text      = My parents have told me all about that.
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    | text      = Okay, okay, cool.
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    | text      = So Jordan, I've told you, there's not a lot fucking going on on these episodes.
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    | text      = This is gonna be a bit of a shorter episode because of it.
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    | text      = Because a lot of this ends up being Alex plugging the Obama deception.
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    | text      = As I remember, that clip ends up spiraling into the Obama deception's gonna be huge.
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    | text      = He interviews Mike Rivera on the show and that's only interesting because as we know,
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    | text      = one point after this, Mike Rivera is going to call Alex a shill for Israel and not be
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    | text      = welcome on his show anymore.
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    | text      = So that hasn't happened yet.
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    | text      = Their falling out hasn't happened.
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    | text      = And who else does he have?
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    | text      = He has an interview with Richard C. Cook.
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    | text      = It's nothing.
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    | timestamp = 00:46:04.699
    | text      = It's nothing.
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    | text      = Who is Richard C. Cook?
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    | text      = It's not important.
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    | text      = He's just a guy.
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    | text      = No, he's someone who, as I recall, he wrote about the Challenger explosion and actually
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    | text      = got to the bottom of some of that in a very interesting way.
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    | text      = Oh, that's cool as fuck.
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    | text      = He's gonna put people's feet to the fire about it.
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    | text      = But Alex doesn't bring that shit up at all.
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    | text      = What?
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    | text      = Why not?
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    | text      = Because he wants to talk about the globalists.
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    | text      = But the Challenger disaster is an incredibly fascinating period in American history.
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    | text      = That's awesome.
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    | text      = But this guy has a good bit of experience about the economy.
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    | text      = He's fairly knowledgeable.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Alex, he tries to push a lot of the they're going to collapse things language with him.
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    | text      = And Cook is maybe a little bit more polite and generous than he needs to be with the
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    | text      = conversation.
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    | text      = Because when they're talking, Alex is like, they're going to collapse everything in order
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    | text      = to have everything be super cheap so they can buy up everything after it's all over.
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    | text      = That's the only way we're gonna rebuild the Challenger.
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    | text      = So Richard Cook comes in and he's talking about how, historically, when things have
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    | text      = fallen apart, people are able to buy up resources at a much diminished price.
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    | text      = Yeah, that's never happened with Puerto Rico, but now as we're talking.
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    | text      = The fact that you can do that when things fall apart does not prove that people do that
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    | text      = intentionally so they can later do that.
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    | timestamp = 00:47:30.880
    | text      = Right, right, right.
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    | text      = They're just predators who are evil people who swoop in in order to, not necessarily
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    | text      = always evil.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Some people have done it as a force for good.
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    | text      = But let's go with the large majority who are like literal carpetbaggers.
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    | text      = I would be willing to believe that some people have tried to work things towards a collapse
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    | text      = in order to buy things up on the other side.
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    | text      = In order for you to get me to believe that that was a larger plan by some sort of coordinated
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    | text      = group, you'd need to do a lot more in terms of evidence.
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    | text      = And when Alex brings up Soros, which he doesn't at this point, but this conversation had it
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    | text      = happened years later, he fucking would.
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    | text      = Yeah, absolutely.
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    | text      = Also, but he brings up the Rothschilds at Waterloo, that whole thing.
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    | text      = That's not true.
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    | text      = So when your argument's about the idea of causing a collapse in order to buy things
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    | text      = up on the other end, when you hearken back to that, I don't care.
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    | text      = I'm not coming along with you for that ride.
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    | text      = That was based on Nazi propaganda.
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    | text      = That's not true.
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    | text      = So you need to do better than that.
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    | text      = And I encourage you to, if you want to, I'll listen, I'll review the evidence.
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    | text      = But up till now, there's none.
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    | text      = And it's not like there aren't any actual examples of that.
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    | text      = Let's just go with Venezuela or Panama or fucking Hawaii.
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    | text      = Imagine any number of these things where a collapse is created in order to purchase all
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    | text      = of this shit.
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    | text      = Are you going to prove to me that all those collapses were intentionally created by some
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    | text      = sort of outside evil force?
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    | text      = Or are you just going to say that that happened, whether or not it was exacerbated by anyone,
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    | text      = and then, like you say, predatory forces took advantage of it?
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    | text      = We have a store that's called a Banana Republic for a reason.
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    | text      = Like that is a thing.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Like that's what I'm talking about.
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    | text      = I'm not saying that it's a large conspiracy orchestrated.
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    | text      = I'm saying it's a government combining with a private interest in order to collapse a
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    | text      = government and then take it over cheap.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = You know, like that's a thing.
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    | text      = It's not that it's not a thing.
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    | text      = The problem is he's using a non-thing to describe a thing that's a thing.
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    | text      = Do you see what I'm saying?
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    | text      = Somewhat.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Which I actually think is probably a succinct summation of Alex Jones's sort of intellectual
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    | text      = strategy, which is to describe a non-thing by ignoring a thing.
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    | text      = Yeah, that's right.
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    | text      = There's a real thing and he wants to talk about the fake version of the thing.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Which is fun because that kind of leads us into this next clip.
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    | text      = Nice.
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    | text      = I...
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    | text      = This is the only thing that really was like, oh boy, this is going to be fun.
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    | text      = So this is a clip where, first of all, there's a lot of excitement going on here because
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    | text      = this is the first time I've heard Rob do on the show back in 2009.
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    | text      = Oh, shit.
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    | text      = And Alex doesn't introduce him.
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    | text      = Rob, I love the professionalism of this show.
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    | text      = Rob do just shows up after a commercial break and Alex is like, what do you think about
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    | text      = that, Rob?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So they have a conversation about stuff and it's like, this is weird.
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    | text      = I like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Rob do kind of brings up the tea party, doesn't call it the tea party.
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    | text      = He talks about tax protesters.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Which is fine.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Because Alex doesn't seem all that interested.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Tax protesting is boring.
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Lame.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's not lame?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No, it's not lame to Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But he has a very specific group of people that he thinks are legitimate tax researchers.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Dan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And he names them here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Dan, I don't want to know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I swear to God, I would have ignored this entire clip if these names weren't really
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    | text      = funny and then I looked into them, I'm like, holy shit, these people are all lunatics.
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But man, these names are funny.
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So let's go ahead and get Bob Schultz with the people foundation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I haven't had him on about two years.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:28.000
    | text      = Let's go ahead and get Joe Bannister on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Let's go ahead and get all the usual suspects on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:51:33.440
    | text      = Tommy Cryer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Leading up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The 15th is the middle of the week.
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    | timestamp = 00:51:38.159
    | text      = So.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = In fact, you want to write that down.
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    | text      = Good work guys.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We'll do producer meetings here on air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:51:43.719
    | text      = Total transparency.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:44.719
    | text      = Let's get Tommy Cryer on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:48.260
    | text      = Let's get Joe Bannister on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:49.960
    | text      = Gotta get him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = JP.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:51.960
    | text      = Let's get Red Beckman on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Red Beckman.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:55.639
    | text      = Red Beckman?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:56.639
    | text      = Uh, let's get, uh, who else should I get on here?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Skip LaRouche.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:03.559
    | text      = Did I tell you?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Bob Schultz.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:05.559
    | text      = Wait for it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Oh, and let's get Larry Beecraft.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Let's get, these are all legitimate researchers and activists who won't get you put in prison.
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    | text      = There's a lot of pre-treatment apology out there and I wouldn't, you know, go, uh, you
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    | text      = know, throw people over cliffs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm certainly not going to have a baloney people on the show.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = These are all legitimate.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Let's set them up for next week.
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    | text      = Cool.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sounds good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Thanks a lot, buddy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Start doing it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Appreciate that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Um, so.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Good work guys.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = When I, when I heard those names, I was like, first of all, I love, I love the names.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = First Red Beckman and Larry Beecraft.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:42.960
    | text      = Larry Beecraft.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I was like, all right.
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    | text      = And then for the idea that he's saying that like there's Patriot mythology out there and,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't steer you wrong by bringing in a crazy person, uh, like
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:55.360
    | text      = And like, huh, interesting that Erwin Schiff isn't on your list of names.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:59.119
    | text      = He's suspicious in his absence.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:00.719
    | text      = Peter Schiff isn't on his list of names.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Definitely not there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Of people who preach against the, uh, the tax and stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:06.980
    | text      = So I had to, I had to look into it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:08.679
    | text      = I had to be like, who are these fucking people?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:11.039
    | text      = What are they all about?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:53:12.039
    | text      = Because some of them rang a little bit of a bell, but most of those names, I was just
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = like, that could be a made up name.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Larry Beecraft, are you kidding me?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:20.599
    | text      = Do you know what my favorite Patriot mythology is?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:23.119
    | text      = Uh, it's when George Washington ate those six pomegranate seeds and that's why we have
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = the seasons.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's why we have winter.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Because his mom got sad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:32.320
    | text      = Yeah, totally right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So, um, I'm going to, I'm going to tell you all about these guys now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:53:36.519
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:37.519
    | text      = This is where my research took me, it was into finding out about these legitimate tax
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = protesters.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:42.559
    | text      = The legitimate tax protesters.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:43.559
    | text      = So who do you want to hear about first?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Uh, it's gotta be Red Beckman.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, unfortunately I have to leave him for last.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = God damn it!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, sorry.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Uh, then let's go with Beecraft.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:53.920
    | text      = Larry Beecraft.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:54.920
    | text      = He's, he's, he can't even bring the aircraft.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's a solid Beecraft though.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:59.559
    | text      = Uh huh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:00.559
    | text      = So, okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Larry Beecraft is a tax attorney generally working in the world of defending tax protesters
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:54:04.800
    | text      = in court.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Although he does, uh, it does not mean that he himself is a sovereign citizen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It would be very fair to say that he spent most of his career making money off defending
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = sovereign citizens.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:14.760
    | text      = He's currently oh and 26 in court cases, but I'll tell you what, he's rich as fuck.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Quote, in 1985 Beecraft tried to defend one client, Jane Ferguson, by arguing that the
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = 16th amendment, which allowed the federal income tax was void because 11 state legislatures
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = slightly reworded it before ratifying it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:54:31.400
    | text      = The judge was not impressed by his argument.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:35.679
    | text      = Beecraft is now, hold on, was the judge nonplussed by his argument and yet impressed that he
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    | text      = brought the argument or was he not impressed with the argument itself?
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    | text      = The quote is he was not impressed.
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    | text      = Because the argument seems pretty impressive to go all the way to the 16th amendment for
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    | text      = it.
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    | text      = Well, we'll get back to that here in a little bit.
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    | text      = So Beecraft is known in tax protester circles as someone who's willing to try just about
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    | text      = any argument in court to see if it sticks.
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    | text      = Pretty impressive.
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    | text      = And possibly because of his willingness to be flexible and try anything, he's one of
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    | text      = the only tax protester attorneys who's ever managed to win a case against the government.
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    | text      = Wait, he won one?
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    | text      = This is legendary shit.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | timestamp = 00:55:12.079
    | text      = On October 15th, 1993, Lloyd Long under-representation from Larry Beecraft was...
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    | text      = Lloyd Long represented by Larry Beecraft?
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    | timestamp = 00:55:19.320
    | text      = It's a who's who funny name.
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    | text      = What is this?
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    | text      = He was found not guilty in a criminal court on charges that he willingly evaded paying
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    | text      = taxes.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:27.760
    | text      = Since that day, tax protesters have used that case as their smoking gun.
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    | timestamp = 00:55:30.760
    | text      = They're proof that they're right and the courts have followed along and proved it too.
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    | text      = The only problem with their argument is that Long only won his criminal trial for which
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    | text      = the burden of proof involved the government proving that he knew he had to file taxes.
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    | text      = And the jury found that he sincerely did not believe that he needed to do so.
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    | text      = We find you not guilty by reason of stupidity.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And thus, they could not rule that he had willingly evaded taxes.
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    | text      = Beecraft even makes sure that this is the main issue of his defense in his opening statement.
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    | text      = I found an entire transcript of this.
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    | text      = Before you read it, I'm gonna try and pre-summate it.
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    | timestamp = 00:56:07.239
    | text      = All right?
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    | timestamp = 00:56:08.239
    | text      = Look at how fucking dumb this guy is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:10.719
    | text      = Look at how dumb he is.
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    | text      = You think he knows he needs to pay taxes?
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    | text      = He's too fucking stupid.
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    | text      = I think that would hurt his sort of stature in the tax protester world.
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    | text      = Fair enough.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I was summating.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Quote, the question is, did Lloyd Long willfully, meeting with a criminal state of mind, deliberately
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    | text      = fail to file his returns?
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    | text      = Or did he have an innocent good faith belief, a reason that he's done what he's done?
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    | text      = Now that's the bottom line issue.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:37.280
    | text      = No, it's not.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So he's even trying to frame it as like, do you think he was really trying to commit a
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    | text      = crime here?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:42.920
    | text      = This guy, you're right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I mean, the insinuation- Who among us has not forgotten that taxes need
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    | text      = to be paid?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The insinuation is like he's too dumb or he's thoroughly convinced of this thing that I'm
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    | text      = not gonna say is wrong, but we all know is wrong.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So also in civil trial, he was found guilty and he had to pay his back taxes.
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    | text      = Your honor, who among us can say that we haven't murdered somebody because we sincerely believed
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    | timestamp = 00:57:06.559
    | text      = them to be a dragon.
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    | timestamp = 00:57:08.360
    | text      = That's crazy.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:09.539
    | text      = Do you really think this man committed murder?
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    | timestamp = 00:57:12.679
    | text      = No, he fought a dragon like a hero.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:16.280
    | text      = Well, I mean, like I said, he was still found guilty in his civil trial and had to pay all
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = his back taxes.
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    | text      = Which is something that the tax protesters mysteriously don't ever really talk about.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:25.860
    | text      = They just talk about that criminal case and act like he got off with it because Larry
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:31.099
    | text      = Beecraft had come in and proved that the fucking 16th doesn't work and the taxes are all bullshit,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:38.039
    | text      = it's an excise, all this stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:39.960
    | text      = I read so much stupid tax bullshit.
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    | timestamp = 00:57:42.440
    | text      = But outside of all that, he's not really been too big a player in the tax protester world,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:46.940
    | text      = but he does pop up from time to time to advance bad arguments that get people thrown in jail
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = pretty regularly.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:52.800
    | text      = Also, as of this recording, the only post on his blog is just him saying that you can
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:57.099
    | text      = contact him to be your lawyer along with a picture of himself escorting his daughter across
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:01.199
    | text      = a football field when she was Auburn's homecoming queen.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:04.119
    | text      = I'm not sure that that's customary for to be escorted by your father when you're the
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    | timestamp = 00:58:09.320
    | text      = homecoming queen.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:10.320
    | text      = What are his rates?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:11.320
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:12.320
    | text      = What are his rates?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:13.320
    | text      = To escort the homecoming queen?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:14.320
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:15.320
    | text      = I think that's probably pro bono.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:16.320
    | text      = I think he probably did that when he ran it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:19.800
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:20.800
    | text      = I doubt it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:21.800
    | text      = He charged by the hour.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:22.800
    | text      = I don't know.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Those are billable hours, Dan.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm going to guess that that was his idea.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:27.199
    | text      = I don't know.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:28.199
    | text      = I don't want to get involved with family stuff, but it seems like he was like, you're the
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:34.539
    | text      = homecoming queen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:35.539
    | text      = I'm going to escort you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:36.539
    | text      = You're not going to take a boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:38.539
    | text      = Uh-uh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:39.539
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:40.539
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:41.539
    | text      = What if that boy pays taxes?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:42.539
    | text      = That would be scandalous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:43.539
    | text      = You guys never have that in my house.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:44.539
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:45.539
    | text      = So now I guess-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:46.539
    | text      = Kiss who's coming to dinner, someone who pays taxes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:48.739
    | text      = I guess we can go next with Tom Cryer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:50.739
    | text      = Let's go with Tom Cryer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:52.539
    | text      = Tom Cryer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:53.539
    | text      = Tom Cryer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:54.539
    | text      = He's the town crier.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:55.539
    | text      = He's yet another guy who decided not to pay his taxes, got in trouble for it in 2007,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:00.420
    | text      = then in court pleaded, quote, I sincerely thought I didn't need to do that, using that
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:04.380
    | text      = as a defense in order to get out of criminal trouble.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:06.980
    | text      = His story is the absolute run of the mill for idiotic tax protesting in that world.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:11.539
    | text      = You have a bad argument.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:12.980
    | text      = You rely on technicality to stay out of prison.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:15.500
    | text      = You end up losing in civil court.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:16.800
    | text      = You get forced to pay your back taxes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:18.659
    | text      = You pretend that civil case never happened and then make tons of money in the tax protest
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:22.699
    | text      = circuit preaching that people should do the exact same thing that you got in trouble for
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:26.500
    | text      = in the first place.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:27.500
    | text      = Fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:28.500
    | text      = You don't have to go to jail, but you still owe us this money.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:31.059
    | text      = Please pay it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:32.059
    | text      = Basically.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:33.059
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:34.059
    | text      = And they all hide behind that same thing, that like I sincerely believed this stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:38.340
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:39.340
    | text      = So you don't have to go to prison, but then you still have to pay everything back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:42.820
    | text      = How long did they get away with it?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:44.619
    | text      = Dude, that story is so regular.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:47.800
    | text      = It's legion.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:48.800
    | text      = From all of the stuff that I looked into, it's all people wiggling their way out of
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:52.019
    | text      = prison for the crimes that they very clearly committed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:55.139
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:56.139
    | text      = And that's why people like Erwin Schiff are super rare because he is like, I'm not going
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    | timestamp = 01:00:00.460
    | text      = to bend on this.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:01.460
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:02.460
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:03.460
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:04.460
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:05.460
    | text      = You got to go to prison.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:06.460
    | text      = You can't be a believer.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:07.460
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:08.460
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:09.460
    | text      = And so they end up just being forced to pay their back taxes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:10.460
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:11.460
    | text      = But because of the publicity they gained, they can shift the perception and make it
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:13.980
    | text      = like I stood up to the man and then just not talk about the civil trial.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:18.420
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:19.420
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:20.420
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:21.420
    | text      = So Erwin Schiff was just leading up to his death.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:22.739
    | text      = He decided to not pay his taxes again.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:24.460
    | text      = Well, what are you going to do?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:26.980
    | text      = He can't take it with you, Dan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:28.539
    | text      = He did not agree that he owed back taxes and he was very clear that you very clearly did
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:33.179
    | text      = owe them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:34.179
    | text      = And he further thought that he shouldn't have to pay any penalties for wasting everyone's
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:37.219
    | text      = time in court with long debunked and discredited bullshit theories.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:40.739
    | text      = The IRS said they owed him just the north of one point seven million dollars, whereas
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:45.860
    | text      = Tom Cryer believed that the number should be four.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:49.420
    | text      = Nice round number.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:50.820
    | text      = Let's say ten zero.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:53.300
    | text      = Come on, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:56.900
    | text      = You got to compromise.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:57.980
    | text      = Give him like 50.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:58.980
    | text      = Give him a good 50.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:59.980
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:00.980
    | text      = Bring a 50 dollar bill into court.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:02.579
    | text      = Everybody will be fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:03.579
    | text      = Settle.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:04.579
    | text      = So let's talk.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:05.579
    | text      = Joe Bannister.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:06.579
    | text      = Joe Bannister.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:07.579
    | text      = That's a hot name.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:01:08.579
    | text      = You know what?
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    | text      = I don't find Joe Bannister as charming as you do.
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    | text      = If you are making like I think that's a pretty good cop name for making a TV show.
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    | text      = You know what?
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    | text      = You're right.
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    | text      = Detective Joe Bannister.
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    | text      = How contextualized it I'm in.
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    | text      = Well, it's interesting because Joe Bannister is a former IRS agent who turned into a tax
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    | text      = protester and is, if by some sort of magic, ran afoul of tax law in some very serious
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    | text      = ways.
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    | text      = So you could say he slid down into the.
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    | text      = It seems like he probably had some of these ideas even before he ended up leaving the
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    | text      = IRS.
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    | text      = That's a weird thing to be in the IRS.
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    | text      = So it appears he didn't file his taxes between 2002 and 2006 and ended up getting in some
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    | text      = pretty big trouble about that.
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    | text      = Bannister's first real run in with the law, though, regarding his tax beliefs, happened
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    | text      = in 2004 when Bannister was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, as well as three
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    | text      = counts of aiding and assisting the filing of false tax return.
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    | text      = A man named Thompson for the 1996, 1997 and 1998 tax years.
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    | text      = He had he had one name like Sher name was just Thompson.
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    | text      = No, that was just how I pulled the quote out of the Department of Justice press release.
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    | text      = The issue had to do with the client he was advising, named Walter Thompson, the owner
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    | text      = of Sencal Sales, a luggage manufacturing business.
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    | text      = Thompson, possibly due to Bannister's advice, stopped paying his employees income and employment
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    | text      = taxes and also stopped filing necessary paperwork for the employees to be able to pay their
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    | text      = taxes correctly.
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    | text      = Haha.
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    | text      = Fooled you.
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    | text      = You're right.
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    | text      = He fucked these people over.
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    | text      = You'll never catch me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:02:39.460
    | text      = He fucked those employees over pretty bad.
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    | text      = Did he also leave riddles instead?
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    | text      = He just sent the IRS just, you'll find my money when you answer me these questions three.
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    | text      = So from that press release from the Department of Justice, quote, the indictment further
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    | text      = alleges that there was a second meeting on October 11th, 2000, at which Thompson and
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    | text      = Bannister again falsely advised Sencal employees that the compensation which they received
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    | text      = was not, quote, income and that they were not required to pay individual income tax
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    | text      = on those wages.
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    | text      = I'm sorry, what now?
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    | text      = Hold on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They told the employees of Sencal that Thompson would not lie to them regarding tax issues.
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    | text      = I'm sorry, what now?
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    | text      = So it has to do with this idea that like a lot of tax protesters believe that the only
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    | text      = people who, the wording of the laws, the federal employees are the only people who have to
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    | text      = actually pay taxes and the money you're paying isn't actually classified as income.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = It's all a mess.
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    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I mean, we could be here for another six hours.
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    | text      = I'm going to be honest, there's got to be a little bit of that on you.
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    | text      = If I went to an employer and they were like, no, no, no, don't worry about it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = What I'm paying you is an income.
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    | text      = I'd be like, ah, you guys, I don't think I should work here.
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    | text      = I might report them, you know, I might be like, yeah, they're giving out very bad advice.
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    | text      = But if you're, if you're someone who maybe trusts authority implicitly, something like
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    | text      = that, you could really, they could really have screwed some people over with like, well,
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    | text      = they said it.
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    | text      = I mean, that guy worked for the IRS.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:04:04.679
    | text      = Why shouldn't I believe him?
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    | text      = That's the only time in court that I would accept the, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:09.840
    | text      = Oh yeah, I'm way too dumb to have known I was supposed to pay taxes on this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Look at that fucking guy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He was my boss.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, and then even beyond that, let's take another step and say that like, no matter
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = what these employees believed or didn't believe, this guy Thompson, maybe because he believed
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = what Bannister said, stopped paying their employment taxes.
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    | timestamp = 01:04:30.719
    | text      = That's not good.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And stopped filing these quarterly reports that needed to be filed in order for the employees
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    | text      = to file their taxes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He is just like administratively fucking these people over.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Whether or not it's all because of Bannister is a whole other issue.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So yeah, of course the issue is never just that these people don't pay taxes.
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    | text      = And if you think the money that they saved by not paying employment taxes went to the
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    | text      = employees pockets, you're a fucking lie.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I believe it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's ludicrous.
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    | text      = I absolutely believe it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:58.920
    | text      = So these people always end up getting greedy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = In amended tax returns they filed, they were trying to make the tax liability for the business
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:05.659
    | text      = zero dollars and reflect that they were entitled to a refund of $65,000 for both 1996 and 1997.
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    | timestamp = 01:05:14.760
    | text      = They're trying to scam the government of money to get $130,000 from the government.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Not only do I not owe you any money, you, sir, owe me money.
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    | text      = So Thompson was found guilty and sentenced to 72 months in prison.
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    | timestamp = 01:05:29.320
    | text      = Bannister, however, was acquitted because he's a member of a very specific group of
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = assholes, the promoters of a false and criminal ideology.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:05:37.079
    | text      = To McCain.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:38.079
    | text      = Jay Atkinson, a tax lawyer who studies tax protesters, told the New York Times, quote,
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    | timestamp = 01:05:42.739
    | text      = it's hard to convict promoters.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:44.960
    | text      = Promoters make a lot of money off their marks, watch their marks go to jail for not paying
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = their taxes, and then take advantage of a loophole that lets them prepare bogus returns
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that they characterize as protest returns prepared at the direction of the client.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:57.960
    | text      = What?
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    | timestamp = 01:05:58.960
    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = How does that, what?
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    | text      = Well, you know, he can get away, Bannister, as an adviser to the person who is not paying
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    | timestamp = 01:06:06.320
    | text      = the taxes and get away by pretending that, like, oh, we were doing this to sort of ask
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:06:11.360
    | text      = a question of the IRS.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:13.400
    | text      = It seems like somebody should have stopped that by now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:15.760
    | text      = Or I can get away with it because I'm the accountant or whatever, and I'm just doing
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    | text      = this at the direction of the client.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:06:22.440
    | text      = Really don't think that's okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:23.440
    | text      = He's the one who's evading the taxes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:25.199
    | text      = I'm just filing things at his direction.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:29.639
    | text      = So he ends up getting to slither away.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:33.480
    | text      = People like Bannister could profit off this weak shit.
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    | timestamp = 01:06:36.340
    | text      = And he knows that when everything falls apart, he can hide behind even weaker arguments to
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:06:39.960
    | text      = pretend that he was either just doing something not intentionally criminal or at the direction
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:06:46.980
    | text      = of his client.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:47.980
    | text      = So he can just say, like, they made me do it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:50.119
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:51.119
    | text      = Legitimately, fuck people like him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:52.119
    | text      = In 2008, he was also found to have fraudulently filed his own taxes and owed the IRS tens
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    | timestamp = 01:06:56.719
    | text      = of thousands of dollars.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:58.159
    | text      = He tried to appeal the decision, but the appeals court upheld the lower court decision.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:02.719
    | text      = He tried to take the matter to the Supreme Court, but they recently said, no, thank you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:07.159
    | text      = You can't buy your own bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:09.159
    | text      = You can't do it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:10.159
    | text      = If you're going to scam, you can't then scam yourself.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:12.760
    | text      = So now...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:13.760
    | text      = That's just a bad move.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:14.760
    | text      = So now we're three for three on people.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:16.079
    | text      = I guess Larry Beecraft, I'm not entirely sure if he actually evaded taxes himself, but two
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    | text      = for three people who actually just put it into practice and then cowardly hid from the
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:07:27.199
    | text      = consequences of their actions.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:29.599
    | text      = Now Bob Schultz, surprisingly, Bob Schultz is another guy who doesn't pay tax.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:34.239
    | text      = Oh, that's great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:35.239
    | text      = Wait, wait, wait, what?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:36.239
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:37.239
    | text      = Is he part of our murderers row of non taxpayers?
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    | timestamp = 01:07:40.400
    | text      = Bob Schultz is a little more interesting, though, perhaps only because he's a perfect
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:43.800
    | text      = example of how these scumbags are con men deep down, even though even more than they're
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:07:48.559
    | text      = driven by principles.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:50.500
    | text      = Bob Schultz started and ran the We the People Foundation for Constitutional Education.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:56.599
    | text      = He was the president, vice president in pretty much every other important role in the company.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:01.159
    | text      = I feel like you shouldn't have that many roles.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:03.119
    | text      = It was run out of his house, like all reputable tax protest advocacy groups who have been
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:08:07.059
    | text      = given tax exempt status do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:09.280
    | text      = He's been...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:10.280
    | text      = Wait, what?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:11.280
    | text      = He had tax exempt status.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:12.599
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:13.599
    | text      = How did he get tax exempt status?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:08:15.300
    | text      = Over the years, Bob used We the People to put out his anti-tax views and lead a lot
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:19.579
    | text      = of people down the wrong paths, making a lot of money off it all the while.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:23.920
    | text      = Eventually, once Obama was in office, We the People pivoted from being a solely tax-based
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:08:27.939
    | text      = group and began spouting racist conspiracy theories about how Obama wasn't a citizen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:32.520
    | text      = Schultz used WTP money to buy full-page ads in the Chicago Tribune on December 1st and
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:37.960
    | text      = 3rd, 2008, claiming that Obama had not proven that he was a citizen and therefore could
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    | timestamp = 01:08:42.520
    | text      = not be president.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:45.000
    | text      = And that would have been fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:47.439
    | text      = You know...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:49.239
    | text      = It would have been fine, legally speaking.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:51.979
    | text      = When you're running a scam, just keep your head down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:55.000
    | text      = Just keep your head down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:56.180
    | text      = Don't attract attention to yourself.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:57.960
    | text      = Bob would not have gotten in trouble for any of that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:00.399
    | text      = He would be happy as a clam, making nonsense accusations, if he'd just paid his taxes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:05.819
    | text      = His personal taxes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:07.560
    | text      = Oh, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:09.180
    | text      = We the People was tax-free, which made it a perfect place for him to hide his money.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:09:13.199
    | text      = Court documents reveal that he had made personal unsecured loans to WTP of over $100,000 and
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    | text      = he practiced sole discretion over how the entire organization operated.
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    | text      = In short, the court found that Bob Schultz was using his tax-protesting, tax-exempt organization
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    | text      = as a quote, abusive tax shelter.
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    | text      = On July 12th, 2018, his request that a case against him for tax evasion using the WTP
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    | text      = as a front be dismissed was rejected and he will, in all likelihood, end up being in prison
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    | text      = before too long.
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    | text      = You know, you can legally hide your money.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = You could do, you could just put it in some sort of offshore bank account.
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    | text      = It's more, you don't have to, you don't have to take a stance.
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    | text      = More fun when you have a tax-free organization that you can use as a, I know, I know.
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    | text      = It's like, it's like you're, you're shaking your ass in front of the government.
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    | text      = I get it.
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    | text      = You're like, I hate taxes.
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    | text      = I'm going to create this tax-exempt business and then I'm going to put all of my money
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    | text      = in there.
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    | text      = And that's kind of like a big middle finger to the government.
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    | text      = Fuck you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:09.880
    | text      = See, look, I outsmarted your 16th amendment or whatever that is.
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    | text      = Right?
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    | timestamp = 01:10:14.880
    | text      = What?
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    | timestamp = 01:10:15.880
    | text      = What?
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    | text      = How many more amendments are you going to have?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:17.880
    | text      = Huh?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:18.880
    | text      = We should have stopped at nine.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:19.880
    | text      = No, they need the 10th.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:10:20.880
    | text      = They're big on the 10th.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I mean, Alex had two guests on earlier to talk about his fucking love of the 10th.
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    | text      = So now we come to Red Beckman.
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    | text      = Anything before the 13th for these, I think that should be the rallying cry for these
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    | text      = white, instead of blood and soil and all that stuff, just be like, any amendment before
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    | text      = the 13th?
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = I think they do.
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    | text      = I think they do do that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = That actually sounds right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You're right.
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    | text      = So Red Beckman.
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    | text      = Martin.
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    | text      = The headliner of this murderer's row.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Martin Red Beckman is the granddaddy of tax protesters.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:53.239
    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = His 1985 book, The Law That Never Was, The Fraud of the 16th Amendment, is one of the
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    | text      = primary drivers behind the tax protest movement, despite the fact that claims made in the book
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    | text      = have been repeatedly deemed to be fraudulent by courts.
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    | text      = Though the tax protester movement has existed since long before The Law That Never Was,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:11.739
    | text      = this book led to a renaissance of idiots thinking they know something about the law.
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    | timestamp = 01:11:15.279
    | text      = Cool.
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    | timestamp = 01:11:16.279
    | text      = Beckman and his co-author, William Benson, present the argument in their book that the
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    | text      = 16th Amendment was never ratified and therefore people don't have to pay taxes.
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    | text      = The courts have reviewed the argument and found it to be so baseless that they have
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    | text      = legally classified the argument as frivolous.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So you get hit with a penalty for just trying to make this argument in court.
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    | text      = It's like, uh, what's her fucking France?
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    | text      = Like she's legally a fascist.
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    | text      = This is legally frivolous.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:47.920
    | text      = This is legally the dumbest shit we've ever heard.
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    | text      = What do you mean?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You can't just argue that a law, that an amendment wasn't actually ratified?
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    | text      = What's that?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = What argument is that?
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    | text      = Well, Benson claimed he did a bunch of research and found like the versions that were ratified
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    | text      = had punctuation in different places and stuff like that and therefore, and then he also
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    | text      = makes a ton of claims about like the various states and like, they said that they ratified
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    | timestamp = 01:12:12.720
    | text      = it, but they didn't.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:13.720
    | text      = This signature was made by a reptile, sir.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:16.619
    | text      = And then the courts have looked into all of the claims and been like, that's not, no,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:20.399
    | text      = that's stupid.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So like all of the arguments that people make is like, no one will look at his stuff.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And like originally when his arguments started to be used to defend people who got arrested
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    | text      = for not paying their taxes, they did review that evidence and found it to be lacking.
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    | text      = So naturally, William Benson was arrested for not paying his taxes on over $100,000
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    | timestamp = 01:12:38.479
    | text      = of income and was found guilty and sentenced to four years in prison.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:42.119
    | text      = He tried to appeal and in the process insisted that he should be allowed to have a hearing
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    | text      = on whether or not the 16th Amendment was ratified correctly.
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    | text      = The appeals court was not super into that, saying in their decision, quote, Benson is
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    | timestamp = 01:12:52.960
    | text      = wrong.
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    | text      = In Thomas, which is a previous court case about this very same issue, we specifically
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    | text      = examined the arguments made in the law that never was and concluded that Benson did not
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    | text      = discover anything.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Your Honor, I would like to challenge the 16th Amendment on the basis of fax machines
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    | timestamp = 01:13:11.359
    | text      = didn't exist, and so everyone had to transcribe it themselves.
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    | timestamp = 01:13:14.760
    | text      = In 2007, the United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois ruled
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    | text      = that the claims that Benson made in his 16th Amendment Reliance Program, which is something
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    | text      = he was selling.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:24.920
    | text      = 16th Amendment Reliance Program?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:26.319
    | text      = Yeah, it was something he was selling in order to like get people to be like, this is how
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = you get out of paying, much like your...
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:31.760
    | text      = $35 for a laminated card, baby.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's stubble buying all over again.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh, hell yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So they decided, they found that selling this 16th Amendment Reliance Program constituted
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = commercial fraud.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:43.279
    | text      = He was profiting off giving people specifically fraudulent advice.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:46.800
    | text      = The court ended up deciding that he could sell his book because that was covered by
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:49.680
    | text      = the First Amendment, but that he had to stop selling his packages online, some of which
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:53.600
    | text      = cost up to $3,500.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:55.960
    | text      = All red.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:59.000
    | text      = All red, you shoot for the moon, baby.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:03.560
    | text      = This is William Benson, his co-author on the book, The Law and Order was.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:06.520
    | text      = Oh, okay.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:07.520
    | text      = I was going to say.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:08.520
    | text      = This so far has all been about William Benson.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:09.520
    | text      = Shoot for the moon, baby.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:10.520
    | text      = This has been about Benson because he's the easier one of these two to get into.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:14.119
    | text      = William Benson is a fanciful, tax-protesting idiot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:17.640
    | text      = Red Beckman is a monster in human disguise.
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    | timestamp = 01:14:20.760
    | text      = For instance...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:21.760
    | text      = So we have our Roger Stone versus our Alex Jones.
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    | text      = Here's a choice quote about the Holocaust from Red Beckman's book.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:27.680
    | text      = No, I don't need it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:28.680
    | text      = I don't...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:29.680
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:30.680
    | text      = There's no choice quote about the Holocaust other than, like, boo.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:33.439
    | text      = His book was called The Church Deceived.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:35.119
    | text      = Here's a quote.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:36.119
    | text      = Quote, it was judgment, not Holocaust.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:39.520
    | text      = The true and almighty God used the evil Nazi government to perform judgment upon the evil
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:43.680
    | text      = Antichrist religion of those who had crucified the Christ.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:48.239
    | text      = Bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:49.239
    | text      = Bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:50.239
    | text      = They talk about the terrible Holocaust of Hitler's Nazi Germany.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:52.539
    | text      = They are still with us today, still worshipping their god, Satan, and they're still stealing
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:57.020
    | text      = from the people.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:58.020
    | text      = They're wrong.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:59.020
    | text      = They're the ones who schemed and conspired to create a Federal Reserve banking system.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:02.199
    | text      = Huh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:03.199
    | text      = Wait.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:04.199
    | text      = Huh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:05.199
    | text      = Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:06.199
    | text      = Huh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:07.199
    | text      = Wait.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:08.199
    | text      = Huh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:09.199
    | text      = We went from the Holocaust to the Federal Reserve is fine?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:11.079
    | text      = Well, no, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:12.079
    | text      = Or is it evil?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:13.079
    | text      = Yeah, because he's saying that the Jews conspired to create it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:16.079
    | text      = Huh, that sounds a lot like what Alex implies and is unwilling to do because he hides behind
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:15:21.000
    | text      = the term globalist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:22.000
    | text      = So if I understand correctly, the Jews created the Federal Reserve.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:26.279
    | text      = I think that a lot of people who side on Alex's side of things do think that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:33.239
    | text      = I, boy, you know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:36.000
    | text      = It's the same thing as the Jew bankers shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:38.279
    | text      = I'm fine with, you know what, look, you want to say bullshit like the Jews killed our savior,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:43.600
    | text      = whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:44.600
    | text      = At least there's some kind of like words, not just like, eh, you know what?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:49.560
    | text      = The Jews killed all the unicorns.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:51.520
    | text      = Why not?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:52.520
    | text      = Let's just blame the Jews for everything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:53.760
    | text      = That doesn't make any goddamn sense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:55.220
    | text      = These people do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:56.720
    | text      = That is true.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:57.720
    | text      = Oh, also, Red Beckman believes that people of color are, quote, mud people and has a
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:01.960
    | text      = long history of speaking at white.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:03.920
    | text      = And who creates mud people, Dan?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:07.039
    | text      = I don't know why.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:08.039
    | text      = Who creates golems?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:09.039
    | text      = Why are you yelling at me?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:10.039
    | text      = Who creates golems, Dan?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:11.920
    | text      = Stop yelling at me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:12.920
    | text      = The Jews!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:13.920
    | text      = Stop it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:14.920
    | text      = Also, he thinks that the Jews are responsible for colored people.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:18.520
    | text      = He has a long history, which is his phraseology, not mine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:22.039
    | text      = Apologies.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:16:23.039
    | text      = He has a long history of speaking at white supremacist gatherings.
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    | text      = Alex should know that.
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    | text      = He has every reason to know that in 2009 when he's talking about having him on as a legitimate
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    | text      = expert.
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    | text      = So, in 1994, Red sued a whole bunch of people, including Alan Greenspan, in the U.S. District
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    | text      = Court of Montana because back in 1977...
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    | text      = That's a good place to sue people.
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    | text      = In 1977, because he didn't pay his taxes, there was a lien placed on his house.
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    | text      = He just decided, fuck it, I'm still going to stay here even though they're trying to
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    | text      = take away my property.
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    | text      = And then he got everything tangled up in court and he didn't have to leave.
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    | text      = Was he in Montana?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Oh, okay.
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    | text      = Well, yeah.
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    | text      = Who's going to kick you out of your place in Montana?
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    | text      = So, he stayed there for years and years and kept tying up the courts with frivolous suits
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    | text      = to try and postpone things, and then in 1994 things sort of came to a head.
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    | text      = That case when he was trying to sue Alan Greenspan and a whole list of other people seems to
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    | text      = have a little bit of a sense of finality to it, and his case did not go great.
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    | text      = Greenspan's argument largely boiled down to sovereign citizen lines about him not being
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    | text      = a person and shit like that, free men on the land kind of stuff.
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    | text      = Your Honor, I am allergic to bees and therefore I am exempt from taxes.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = He ended up being evicted from his land, and in the lead up to his eviction, when he was
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    | text      = not going to leave, militia and white supremacists came out to support him to clear in, quote,
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    | text      = no more Waco's.
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    | text      = When asked about things...
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    | text      = When asked about things, he told the media, quote, this eviction isn't going to go the
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    | text      = way the law enforcement plans.
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    | text      = I don't like that.
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    | text      = There's going to be enough guns here to make sure of that.
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    | text      = That's not the way you should say things.
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    | text      = Spoiler alert, the eviction did go the way the law enforcement plan.
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    | text      = How many guns were there?
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    | text      = Plenty, but he got kicked off and they burned down his house.
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    | text      = Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait.
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    | text      = They burned down his house?
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    | text      = Well, the people who owned the land.
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    | text      = That seems, oh, you don't need to burn it down.
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    | text      = They did because they were going to build something on it.
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    | text      = It would seem a better destroyer or whatever.
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    | text      = OK.
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    | text      = I'm not going to...
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    | text      = I'm not going to squabble...
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    | text      = Because I immediately saw the police carrying torches.
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    | text      = No, they said no more Waco's.
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    | text      = This was long after.
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    | text      = This was long after he had vacated the premises.
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    | text      = I just thought you put those in the same sentence together.
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    | text      = I understand why that could be kind of confusing.
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    | text      = The eviction went exactly as planned.
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    | text      = They burned his house to the ground.
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    | text      = Well, later.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Again, later.
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    | text      = So we have this list of dudes, Bob Schultz, Tom Cryer, Red Beckman, Joe Bannister and
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    | text      = Larry Becraft, who Alex says are legitimate tax researchers.
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    | text      = I think we've shown they are not.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = These are mostly crazy sovereign citizen adjacent or legit sovereign citizen dudes who have
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    | text      = failed over and over again to make arguments in court that they shouldn't have to pay taxes
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    | text      = and have largely gotten in big trouble because of it.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = People have been told, you can't preach the things you're preaching because it's legally
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    | text      = fraud.
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    | text      = I'm going to go with Bannister is Mr. T, Beckman is definitely face.
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    | text      = Come on.
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    | text      = Hannibal.
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    | text      = Beckman's Hannibal?
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Oh, OK.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = Who's our face?
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    | text      = Beecraft.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Beecraft is our face?
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    | text      = I don't know what he looks like.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's the only one who successfully did one of these faces.
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    | text      = Oh, you know what?
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    | text      = You're right.
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    | text      = You are crushing the A-Team.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I don't remember who the fourth member of the A-Team is.
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    | text      = We don't need to worry about that.
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    | text      = And we have two other dudes anyway, so it'd be tough to fill out the team.
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    | text      = So like I said, so that brings us to the end of March 3rd.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And it's just fun.
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    | text      = First of all, see Rob do up in that piece.
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    | text      = And then the idea that like Alex thinks that there are people who are less reputable than
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    | timestamp = 01:20:03.119
    | text      = these five who he refuses to have on the show.
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    | text      = Well, of course.
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    | text      = That's amazing to me.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = This is the A-Team.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You couldn't have a goofier Beecraft.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You couldn't have a goofier Troop than these assholes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They're all crazy and very wrong.
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    | timestamp = 01:20:16.880
    | text      = So it's fun.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And they are a ragtag band of heroes ready to infiltrate the Death Star of the government.
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    | text      = So like I said, we're going to touch on a little bit of the fourth here, just because
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    | text      = I didn't want to end on that like laundry list of tax protesters.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, but they are fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So here's what happened for the first bit of the fourth.
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    | text      = Alex is like, he's mad at Glenn Beck.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And I think that that has a piece of the Tea Party stuff brewing a little bit.
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    | text      = His starting to get much more frustrated with Glenn Beck, but it doesn't really go anywhere.
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    | text      = He's kind of mad about the idea that Glenn Beck is talking about the FEMA camps and being
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    | text      = like, I got to research this.
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    | timestamp = 01:21:03.939
    | text      = I don't know if I can.
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    | text      = Alex is like, that's my bread and butter, you son of a bitch.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So he gets on air and he's like, I'm going to spend a half hour proving the FEMA camp.
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    | timestamp = 01:21:13.920
    | text      = You know what, though?
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    | text      = Whenever I try and do that, I just have too much evidence.
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    | text      = And so that is something I hear all the time from people with all the evidence, Dan.
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    | text      = It's like, I've got so much that I can't do this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:27.119
    | text      = You can't even talk about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:28.439
    | text      = There's too much evidence.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:29.439
    | text      = And so I'm like, are you going to try?
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    | text      = No, you don't need to say any evidence.
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    | text      = Instead what he does is he starts complaining weirdly about abortion stuff and talking about
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = how if you're sorry, you can repent and all this stuff, not mentioning his own history
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    | text      = with abortion.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:44.439
    | text      = Wait, of 10 plus.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Not talking about all that, just gets really weird.
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    | text      = He mentions a story, he says it's from the Miami Herald about an abortion doctor who
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    | text      = threw a baby up against the wall and then threw it in the garbage and rats ate it for
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:56.640
    | text      = a couple of days while the baby was still alive.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:58.640
    | text      = I found that Miami Herald article, none of that is in there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:02.000
    | text      = None of that is in there.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:03.000
    | text      = The baby up against the wall like the baby owed him money?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:06.760
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:07.760
    | text      = More or less.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:08.760
    | text      = He's trying to shake down this fetus.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The instance in that Miami Herald story he's talking about is absolutely a poorly run abortion
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    | text      = clinic.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:19.920
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:20.920
    | text      = Absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:21.920
    | text      = They happen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:22.920
    | text      = There were indications that what they were doing was malpractice and they do deserve
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:25.119
    | text      = to run afoul of the law and be punished for it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:28.720
    | text      = But all the editorializing about throwing the fetus against the wall and rats eating
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:32.359
    | text      = a baby and who's alive in a trash can for days.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Really don't think a baby could do that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:22:37.319
    | text      = Impossible.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:38.319
    | text      = And not in the article.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:40.199
    | text      = Can't find that anywhere except Alex's weird brain.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:43.279
    | text      = But it sends him down a fucking crazy path.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:47.560
    | text      = He ends up like he said he was going to get into the FEMA camp stuff, but didn't have
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:52.079
    | text      = enough time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:53.079
    | text      = He has so much evidence.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:54.079
    | text      = Then he spends 20 minutes talking about how great he is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:57.079
    | text      = Well the rat ate that baby and who is greater than the guy who covers the rat eating babies?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:02.319
    | text      = And that might be the Byzantine path his mind went down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:06.319
    | text      = But it's just about like glory will come when we defeat globalists.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:10.819
    | text      = That's when you have the clip where he's talking about once we push them back I'll adopt these
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    | timestamp = 01:23:14.520
    | text      = brown babies.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:15.520
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:16.520
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:17.520
    | text      = And I'm just listening to this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:18.520
    | text      = I'm like you said you didn't have time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:20.819
    | text      = This is 20 minutes, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:21.819
    | text      = He doesn't have time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:22.819
    | text      = You don't have time to prove the thing that you're mad about.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:25.720
    | text      = What are you doing?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:26.720
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:27.720
    | text      = So I just got so confused I had to walk away from it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:29.439
    | text      = I was just like I can't do this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:23:31.199
    | text      = I can't.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:23:32.199
    | text      = I can't.
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    | text      = It makes no sense.
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    | text      = If you want to prove this, prove this instead of doing this weird psycho rant that clearly
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    | text      = is motivated by him getting into this topic that he knows he feels guilt about but doesn't
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    | text      = want to process that guilt.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = So he does this rambling diatribe about nothing.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = It's like you know how when you studied really hard for a test and you know everything about
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    | text      = So the night before you you know you don't really sleep and then the next morning even
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    | text      = though you know all the answers to this test you can't stop thinking about drawing this
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    | text      = incredible album art for Metallica's most recent album.
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    | text      = That is a thing that happens to everybody.
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    | text      = So sometimes you're going to prove that the government is destroying everybody's lives
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    | text      = with FEMA camps but you get a little distracted and you start talking about rats eating a
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    | text      = fetus and then where you where do you go from there other than I'm the greatest there ever
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    | text      = That makes sense.
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    | text      = Come on.
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    | text      = So there's one clip that I wanted to play from this episode of the part that I watched
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    | text      = because I think it's I think it's indicative of a couple of interesting things that we're
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    | text      = still tracking in Alex's history and like we'd be here all day if we were going to talk
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    | text      = about it like break down that 20 minute stupid rant and it's nothing he hasn't said before
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    | text      = which is the other thing.
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    | text      = It's also just boring.
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    | text      = I am the baby that is being metaphorically eaten by the rats of taxes.
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    | text      = If he did go down that route I would probably have played it because that at least would
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    | text      = be like ah interesting.
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    | text      = Oh all right.
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    | text      = It was just all I'm great globalist bad whoopty shit.
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    | text      = So in this clip there's two things that he brings up that I think are important in terms
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    | text      = of us following a coherent path through 2009.
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    | text      = Somebody who does something similar is Michael Wiener Savage, the real name is Michael Wiener.
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    | text      = He'll say yeah there's a new world order global government it's run by the Arabs and we've
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    | text      = So they do this very simple bait and switch and then I saw a clip yesterday now I've seen
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    | text      = several others where Glenn Beck is on the air saying yeah I keep hearing about these
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    | text      = FEMA camps and I'm going to have to investigate them and find out if they're real but he makes
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    | text      = a joke and says but Fox News won't let me cover it because I'm controlled it's controlled
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    | text      = you know whole conspiracy theory and then makes a joke so he brings up FEMA camps that
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    | text      = are openly admitted openly all over the news and then he acts like he's the only person
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    | text      = talking about it then he makes a joke about it and then next cuts to Vladimir Putin is
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    | text      = going to attack us and we've got to learn to single out evil and Russia wants to go
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    | text      = after the United States meanwhile I'm petty as you know on 888 last year a sneak attack
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    | text      = was launched against Georgia and then Russia came in with forces and World War 3 almost
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    | text      = commenced you know it it's just incredible propaganda it is that Alec Alex saying that
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    | text      = describing the the sort of Russo Georgian war that way is very clearly indicative that
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    | text      = at this point he is hook line and sinker believing the Russian line on oh yeah absolutely because
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    | text      = what happened in that conflict is not at all the way he's describing it they were separatists
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    | text      = in the Abkhazian region in South Ossetia started attacking Georgia they started attacking ethnic
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    | text      = sovereign territory right so what ended up happening was Georgia started fighting back
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    | text      = against those separatists who believed themselves to be closer aligned with Russia Russia came
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    | text      = in and started started fighting as well on the side of the separatists and then eventually
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    | text      = they reached some sort of an agreement and it the war ended yeah so I mean look the conflict
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    | text      = in Georgia was more complicated than we're giving it service but the idea that the way
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    | text      = Alex is describing it with Russia being the good guys in it it's not there's very clear
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    | text      = indications that the South Ossetians and the Abkhazians were acting on in Russia's interest
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    | text      = in order to annex parts of Georgia back into the Soviet Union when was the last time that
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    | text      = Russia was the good guy in any kind of action towards consolidating the old Soviet Union
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    | text      = back into Russia oh also they have occupied Abkhazia and South Ossetia nah come on which
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    | text      = is in direct violation of the ceasefire hey so I don't know man it just seems like another
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    | text      = instance of you know Russian incursions that Alex is you know taking the Russian line on
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    | text      = which I mean is fine if you want to but be more upfront about what you believe is truth
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    | text      = and what he believes is truth is that Putin's the good guy who's going to save us from the
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    | text      = New World Order and he's clearly believed that since 2009 and probably before now what's
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    | text      = interesting about that and the reason that I think that this is something worthwhile
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    | text      = to bring into our sphere of this investigation is because it's not a part of whatever change
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    | text      = he makes you know I'm saying like all the other stuff is still different yeah the anti-military
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    | text      = stuff the pro net neutrality stuff the anti-israel pro-Iran business all this stuff is very that's
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    | text      = very different than where he will end up being but the Russia stuff has always been it's
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    | text      = always been is it just because the idea thinks Russia is a white ethnostate is that what
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    | text      = it really is I mean in 2015 when he was talking all that stuff about I like Putin may save
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    | text      = the world and shit like that when he was talking about that I mean he talks about it as being
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    | text      = like a masculine state and there's like a testosterone to it I think he believes that
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    | text      = right like you can still murder gay people I think that he thinks that it's close to
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    | text      = a Christian state I think that he believes that which is crazy but he doesn't respect
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    | text      = any like if he looked into Russian Orthodox Church he would be like oh no never mind I
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    | text      = think he believes those sorts of things on a baseline level and then further I think
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    | text      = he sees Russian media being very accommodating to his anti-western viewpoints and there's
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    | text      = different there's different reasons like I know that Alex is for quote unquote the West
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    | text      = now but Alex is anti quote New World Order yeah and Putin in his circle are anti-Atlantic
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    | text      = ism anti the Western Europe and the United States right having any kind of strategic
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    | text      = alliances that don't allow them to encroach on their neighbors and what have you right
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    | text      = isn't that weird right but so Alex sees Russia being willing to have him on as an expert
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    | text      = in things he sees Russian media saying very similar things to what he's saying he doesn't
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    | text      = understand that the reason for that is they're interested in weakening the alliances that
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    | text      = the United States and Europe has he thinks like oh yeah this is they know about the globalists
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    | text      = they're on the same team is it really just flattery I just I just have a hard time believing
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    | text      = I think it's partially flattery partially like twisted familiarity perhaps but he sees
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    | text      = a lot of his worldview mirrored in them not realizing the reason that it's mirrored is
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    | text      = because both are destructive to a status quo maybe that's just a theory that just seems
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    | text      = too little for for the amount of water that he carries for Russia that just doesn't seem
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    | text      = like enough you know but I don't know if he's doing that much carrying now I think it might
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    | text      = be the sort of thing that grows over time could be I think that that's probably probably
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    | text      = the case I don't know it's weird so anyway this brings us to the end of our a little
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    | text      = our little jaunt here through 2009 I apologize in some ways that this is kind of like it's
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    | text      = not satisfying in terms of like what we're looking for but it is what it is I like the
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    | text      = idea that we got to learn about these weirdo tax people those guys were great that that
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    | text      = to me makes things worthwhile they're the heroes of this episode to be honest and then
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    | text      = we can see like these trends that of course not of their own life stories we can see these
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    | text      = trends that have already been established in earlier 2009 certainly continuing we see
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    | text      = no pivot we see Alex not be interested at all almost a week now after the tea parties
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    | text      = yeah not really interested in any way in it except for a rising sense of disapproval of
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    | text      = Glenn Beck yeah I think as Glenn Beck star starts to rise and of course Michael Wiener
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    | text      = Michael Wiener not Michael Savage Michael Wiener said Alex will very soon be saying
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    | text      = is a hero he's a great man he's one of the best he's one of the first people who is look
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    | text      = you can his name is Wiener what are you gonna do he's a Wiener so yeah it I mean it's interesting
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    | text      = nitpicking I mean we'll see what we see what happens in the near future for now I'm not
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    | text      = super interested in Alex's present-day situation you know he's been kicked off Twitter and
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    | text      = now kicked off Apple iTunes app yeah been kicked off yep I mean we're just gonna see
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    | text      = we'll see what happens but it doesn't it's not all that interesting to me because I think
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    | text      = we could get very easily too much into the world of sort of schadenfreude and rejoicing
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    | text      = in his his pain and I know it's easy to feel that and it's fun but I don't think it's productive
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    | text      = yeah I think I'm actually past it this time I think I think it's you know let him wash
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    | text      = down the drain and then become whatever he becomes and in the meantime I think it's far
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    | text      = more interesting to see what happened let him slide down the Joe Bannister you know
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    | text      = indeed and yeah there we go so if you like our show please you can check out our website
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    | text      = knowledge fight calm do we have a Twitter account do knowledge underscore fight were
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    | text      = you can talk about Alex Jones of the ideas that he puts out into the world and you will
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    | text      = I have gotten word or the sense that one of the problems might be that we don't have any
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    | text      = goals up on the patreon page oh do we not have any goal well we had two initial goals
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    | text      = one was our goal was just rent well we had two goals up and the two of them were goals
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    | text      = that we just went ahead and fulfilled before we even hit them oh that's one was a live
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    | text      = show that we did two of now and then the other was breaking down one of his documentaries
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    | text      = which we did with endgame right and I realized like I didn't know what to do with any other
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    | text      = goals but it I think people feel inspired by it or whatever people like a goal and so
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    | text      = I've set two new goals yeah on the on the patreon page which we're working towards one
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    | text      = of them will do another documentary okay probably not the Obama deception I'm not sure we'll
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    | text      = figure it out but we'll do another documentary if we reach that other goal all right and
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    | text      = then the further goal I'm calling my magnum opus people have asked me to put out a book
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    | text      = or write a book yeah basically about this yeah I don't want to do that so I've come
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    | text      = up with another form to put out the information I would put in a book I will start releasing
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    | text      = it if we hit that goal probably start releasing it at some point anyway but if we hit that
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    | text      = goal I will feel guilty if we haven't started I'll put it that way all right so anyone who
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    | text      = us work towards these goals that would be great yeah that would be great so there's
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    | text      = that anyway Jordan has been fun but what was one thing that Alex Jones knew in 2009 that
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    | text      = he is not being forthcoming about I can't think of anything and that is that he probably
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    | text      = killed a dude Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding well Alex I'm a person
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