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    | title         = [[184: Godly Particles and Illiteracy]]
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    | episodeNumber = [[184: Godly Particles and Illiteracy|184]]
    | length        = 02:50:47
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    | text      = Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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    | text      = Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight
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    | text      = I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed
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    | text      = We are Dan. Although it's not so much novelty beverages at this point. It seems like Lagunitas is in strong rotation. You know
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    | text      = I'm running out. When we go to the liquor store
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    | text      = I've pretty much picked out just about every novelty beer and drink that I can find there
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    | text      = We've been doing the show. Well, you've gone through all the novelty IPAs for sure. You definitely veer that direction
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    | text      = Well, you know you get a novelty wheat beer and you're in for some hurt. It could be some weird fruit
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, and then you're gonna mess with coriander. It's gonna fuck you up. Nobody has time for that. Yeah. Yeah
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    | text      = Yeah, I I highly recommend avoiding novelty wheat beers. Yes, just my advice end up with some you fuck around and get a white rascal
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    | text      = Oh, no, no chance. Uh-uh
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    | text      = Uh-uh. Oh, so that was a great opening bit. I suppose
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    | text      = Anyway, this show is where I know a lot about Alex Jones
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    | text      = I don't only know what you tell me about Alex and it's not only about Alex Jones
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    | text      = It's about all sorts of other things very difficult to explain show if you're jumping in here. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
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    | text      = Sorry, it's evolved into all con men everywhere. We will find you and you know talk about you
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    | text      = Yeah for a while. Yeah, so today Jordan we're gonna be doing a time-traveling episode of sorts
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    | text      = Hey last episode we gave a shout out to a listener Jonathan who?
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    | text      = Got in touch with me and he had a very good request an interesting request
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    | text      = I'm very mad at him for giving me this request because it took me down more rabbit holes than I needed to go down
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    | text      = Okay, I complained to the about this already. You've been bitching at me about this for a while now
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    | text      = Just so now it's time to blame him. It's not his fault
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    | text      = I appreciate it on the other level because I got to learn a number of things
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    | text      = That are a lot of fun and get introduced to some folks that I wouldn't have otherwise
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    | text      = But I wanted to say that I'm putting together a book to keep track of everything much more
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    | text      = Completely much more like a to-do list. Yes sort of thing trying to organize my life and my business, right?
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    | text      = And so I wanted to take a second to recognize that this is a time travel episode
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    | timestamp = 00:02:14.180
    | text      = But there are others that are coming some of them are coming because I and they haven't been done because I keep forgetting and that's my
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    | text      = Bad. All right, I'm working on it. We will make everything this is our new opening bit you
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    | text      = Apologizing for all the stuff that you haven't done. Well, there's a little bit of that
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    | text      = We've been doing that quite frequently recently, but then there's this there's another element to it and there's a one
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    | text      = Time travel episode that I've been putting off a little bit and not not for not wanting to do it
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    | text      = But I've realized that I can't do it and that I'll explain it. No need to dance beat around the bush about why?
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    | text      = So listener Jim who came and visited we had some dry. Yeah. Yeah, it was a delightful time
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    | text      = He requested I believe you requested his birthday
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    | text      = And then it turned out being the episode that I found from his birthday was when Benjamin Netanyahu came to the United States
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    | text      = Oh, that's right
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    | text      = And it's complicated because Alex is in a state where he's like pro-israel
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    | text      = But also pro-sovereignty he's into he's in a weird bubble state and it's difficult to sort of get into
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    | text      = but I realized why I've been putting that off is because when we're in
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    | text      = 2009 and we are looking at him be very pro-palestinian and fairly anti the state of Israel. I
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    | text      = Don't think jumping forward to that point when he's going to say pro-israel things is
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    | text      = Necessarily all that interesting for our path through this
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    | text      = I'd like to get to that episode where Netanyahu comes to America eventually organically
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    | text      = well, not necessarily organically, but I think that it does all of us much more in terms of
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    | text      = understanding and learning
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    | text      = to watch him pivot towards being pro-israel and
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    | text      = Palestinian right because we know that's the end result eventually
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    | text      = Yeah, of course
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    | text      = So I think it's it's difficult for me to get myself to do that episode
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    | text      = Because I want to watch him change as opposed to see him post change and then go back and watch him change
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    | text      = Yes, if that makes you're saying like from a structure of our show standpoint, it feels weird
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    | text      = Yeah, so this is my way of saying an apology to Jim, but that time travel episode might be two years from now
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    | text      = It might not be but also anyways if you'd like to speed it up you can bump your donation
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    | text      = Oh, yeah, that's not what I'm saying
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    | text      = If you if he has another suggestion, you should feel free to tell me it's not because I'm dodging talking about Israel or any of that
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    | text      = Shit, right. It's just from a narrative storytelling structure. I think it blows our
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    | text      = 2009 shit. Yeah a little bit. Yeah. So and also if you have one that you think I've forgotten about which is entirely
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    | text      = It's might be possible. Yeah, or if you haven't donated on that level and you want to try and trick me
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    | text      = You're also very welcome
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    | text      = To send me an email and I will start putting together my to-do list and get everything in order. It will be yeah
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    | text      = I'll be
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    | text      = rocking and rolling
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    | text      = as they said back in the old 50s or
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    | text      = Something you sure is that what they is that what they said in the old 50s? Oh 50 the old 50s
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    | text      = So Jordan today, we have a time travel episode. That is not an Alex Jones based time travel episode
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    | text      = okay, this is an instance where Jonathan actually got in touch with me and was one of the
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    | text      = inspirations and sort of motivations for me to
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    | text      = Bring Jim Baker into our fold. Okay, as it were he sent me a message about how
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    | text      = He was right in line with the con man stuff and I was like, of course he is
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    | text      = I've been meaning to get a look at him. Let's do it
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    | text      = Yeah, I very much appreciate it and he had an instance of the Jim Baker show the day before he went to jail
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    | text      = No, I don't think those archives are up. Oh, okay. This is from May. I believe it's 7th through 10th
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    | text      = No 8th through 10th. I'm not sure. Okay, whatever those few days in 2015. Oh, that's my birthday. Hey, have a birthday
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    | text      = It's three days, but you know what Jim Baker does is he just records it all and then puts it out in chunks
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    | text      = I did not know that. Yeah, why would I know that? I just assumed that you would think that
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    | text      = What I?
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    | text      = Why would you know that?
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    | text      = So that's a crazy thing to know he and Laurie sit down on Grace Street with their guest and they probably record something to the
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    | text      = Tune of like four hours of them talking shit. Uh-huh, and then he cuts it up and well, he doesn't his his children
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    | text      = Chunks and he releases it throughout the week as if it was multiple different like one hour segments. Yeah like that. Okay, okay
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    | text      = Which I got you smart it maximizes. Absolutely. We should fucking do now
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    | text      = That's how they that's how they film like a family feud and shit. You bang out like eight episodes in a day
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    | text      = You got the whole week
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    | text      = Meanwhile idiots like us sit down for three hours and then put that out and then put out another two hour
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    | text      = Yeah, you know it's called time-consuming and maximizing effort while minimizing profit. Isn't that how that works? Very dumb
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    | text      = We're not good. We need a production crew or a bunch or a bunch of teens
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    | text      = But it means we're got there first. So Jordan here is an out-of-context drop from today's show
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    | text      = Netflix
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    | text      = Is a fulfillment of prophecy from me me, too
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    | text      = You know there was there was no when he said Netflix and paused like there's no evil people
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    | text      = There's no good way that this ends. It's gonna be the devil. It's gonna be awful
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    | text      = It's going to be sucking the life out of our children. I did not see it coming as his own prophecy
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    | text      = It is a fulfillment of
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    | text      = His problem I prophecy his prophecy specifically. Yep. How come he wasn't on the ground floor then? Huh? He was in prison
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    | text      = That timeline doesn't match up now because he's not wanted. That's why no one wants him dead or alive
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    | text      = Man steel horse that guy rides
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    | text      = That's a train
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    | text      = so
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    | text      = Jordan you're gonna get into this. There's gonna be a lot of science. Wait, the steel horse is a train
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    | text      = Yeah, I always thought it was a motorcycle. It could be you're right. I always now motorcycles aren't made of steel
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    | text      = I know that's stupid. I always are trains made of steel. Mmm. What are trains made of? Yeah, they're made of steel
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    | text      = I read a in Rand. All right, so no further roads for real. What is gold bullion?
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    | text      = Anyways continue. Uh, it's a soup
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    | text      = Stock stock. Okay good
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    | text      = Oh, it's like a rich people's not like they put gold flakes on top of your dough. Absolutely. I got it
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    | text      = So today we're going over this and we're gonna sort of treat it as one episode
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    | text      = It doesn't really matter where the brakes are from the days or anything essentially one episode
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    | text      = Yeah, so we just don't have to listen to the intro three times, but we will listen to it once
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    | text      = This is a Christmas special it's hard not to feel happy when that music hits
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    | text      = It's saccharine diabetes inducing bullshit because it slides in with that
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    | text      = So fucking close to dancing queens, it's so close to dancing queens, it's a height
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    | text      = It's a junior high musical soundtrack. It's sickeningly close. Yeah dancing queen. Yeah
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    | text      = She's a praying queen
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    | text      = She does seven stuff. There are seals in the Bible gonna die today
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    | text      = Show coming to you from the village of morning side, which kid is settled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains today
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    | text      = Jim special guest Tom Horne
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    | text      = and Chris Putnam
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    | text      = I'm Kevin Shoria the Morningside band and singers and now direct from Grace Street at Morningside
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    | text      = Here are your hosts, Jim and Laurie Baker
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    | text      = Oh no
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    | text      = Oh no
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    | text      = No, cuz it's the lead singer of the band
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    | text      = Sir have some restraint act like you've been there before sir, isn't it great how it's never the same
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    | text      = Introducer, it's the kids or the guy who's leading the band
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    | text      = What are they off? Do they have it? Do they have weekends?
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    | text      = I can't speak today, but I do know that the table is a little crowded
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    | text      = There are people who I don't know who they are sitting at the that's not entirely true because I do now know
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    | text      = The de facto co-host who's not Laurie. Yeah, this guy named Zach who he's around a lot
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    | text      = I was that's not it's not Alex's secret source. All right. Uh-huh. When was the last time he was on the show though?
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    | text      = Was he in a different?
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    | text      = I don't know. It should have done that for like 25 minutes
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    | text      = It's entirely possible that Zach's been hiding out in morning view. That would be the perfect place to very safe
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    | text      = No one would see you coming everyone's armed. Yeah, everyone's fucking are all the teen employees have guns and haven't masturbated
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    | text      = Nope, so here's how the show starts. They have jerked off their guns quite a bit though. Undoubtedly. Oh, yeah
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    | text      = Our should I say to serve
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    | text      = Is that right? That's right. We are sitting right now in the middle of the large head-drawn collider
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    | text      = This is the last funny machine man ever built. That's right, and it's amazing
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    | text      = The scientists are looking for God. No, whatever happened to church
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    | text      = That's right. That's right. It was disproved. Hmm. So this show is gonna have a lot to do with CERN
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    | text      = That's good. I like CERN. There's a lot of interesting research going on
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    | text      = I'm banking and I will say that a lot of the research that I did has nothing to do with CERN
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    | text      = Because I was banking on you knowing a bit about it. I know quite a bit about so enough
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    | text      = I know enough to know number one not looking for God. I look I like the large head-drawn collider immensely
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    | text      = It's what about some of their other colliders that no one seems to be scared of. There's a there's the one under
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    | text      = Tons of them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, but it's not that big. There's so much other technological research that they've done
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    | text      = like the organization's existed since
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    | text      = 1952 like it's not like this. Yeah, you're nodding really dismissively at me. All right. Well, hold on
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    | text      = Up until this point we weren't able to generate
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    | text      = We weren't able to fire protons and the like with enough speed to actually
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    | text      = Measure the effects measure the particles that could be created there, right? So that is why we built up that
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    | text      = That's why people built up that fake, you know
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    | text      = Like what if it creates a black hole as if that was a thing like it's fascinating. It's really fascinating
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    | text      = I would look into it. There's also another one not necessarily the same thing as the the collider, but it's also being built in
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    | text      = Fuck fuck fuck. Why can't I remember any of this shit? Anyways, all kinds of cool shit happens there actually not just research into the
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    | text      = Higgs boson which was kind of and not kind of discovered. It was a really fascinating thing 2013
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    | text      = Yeah, two years before this episode by exactly exactly
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    | text      = but the fascinating thing about that is that they wasn't confirmed that
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    | text      = The Higgs boson was what we thought it would be firm in the standard model. It was kind of it's a very fascinating thing
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    | text      = They thought it was gonna come in at a certain wavelength in one way
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    | text      = That would disprove it that would disprove the standard model or another way that would perfectly prove it
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    | text      = And instead it kind of came in the middle and everybody's like fuck. Well, it's whackadoo shit
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    | text      = Well, you're just I mean you sound like a recording of these guys. Okay, they're gonna get all into that
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    | text      = Okay, I'm gonna talk about crazy nonsense. Awesome. I'm excited. I really want to dig into the science here
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    | text      = All right
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    | text      = Well, you should know because the question really becomes when do we get into string theory and how far away that's not the question
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    | text      = Oh, it's not. No, the question is what are those fucking scientists up to?
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    | text      = This is a very very important book on the path of the immortals
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    | text      = Now that sounds intriguing right there. Also doesn't also sounds like a Jedi mind tricks album title or something like that
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    | text      = But I think we're on the same path that they are what is that lighter they they want to make contact with the immortals
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    | text      = We're kind of warning that the earth is going to make contact with them and it's not going to be pretty
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    | text      = What Wow Wow, what we've got some
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    | text      = Amazing Wow stories today amazing news as well. We had amazing stories
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    | text      = Amazing news Jimmy. There we go. I mean what more could you ask for?
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    | text      = So there's the scientists are looking for the immortals
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    | text      = That's the name of the book
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    | text      = But what they're actually doing
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    | text      = You see is that they're trying to create some sort of a connection where they can communicate with or open up a portal to another
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    | text      = Dimension that's what he's saying. That's what he's saying. Yes. Well first off based on his voice alone
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    | text      = This is Tom Horne here Tom Horne. Yeah, he sounds bananas. How does a human being make those sounds out of his mouth?
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    | text      = Listen to his voice again. It is
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    | text      = Disgusting it grates and it all it's gross. Well, that's really fucking
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    | text      = Shitty of you, you know, it's petty some would say that your voice is grading. I think it absolutely is
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    | text      = I think it absolutely is it's annoying and I accept that and I I allow it. I think my voice has a
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    | text      = Droning baritone now your voice is spectacular and I could listen to it for days
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    | text      = So I think you're being a little bit petty about I know it's not a physical characteristic
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    | text      = But you know, it does come from the jowls probably
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    | text      = He probably has some jowls doesn't he Dan look no matter what you say about his voice or anything like that
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    | text      = You can't argue that he has a grasp on the science. Listen to this
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    | text      = Some scientists are afraid of what they're doing. Is that right? Well, certainly
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    | text      = I mean we you know as these programs are playing on television
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    | text      = This thing will be revving up to the most powerful experiments ever conducted on
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    | text      = On the face of the earth. They are literally going to accelerate hundreds of millions of protons
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    | text      = Inside of the tubes that you can see there behind us to just beneath the speed of light
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    | text      = Then they're going to compress them down to a human hairs with what and they're going to collide as many as 600 million
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    | text      = particles per second
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    | text      = This has never happened on earth before unless maybe it was when God spoke and brought all these particles together the first time around
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    | text      = What?
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    | text      = Human hairs with man, they're gonna compress protons down to a human hairs with how many protons does he think goes into a human hairs?
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    | text      = width
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    | text      = Man, well probably like one sixth of a proton or something like that one six six hairs equals one pro
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    | text      = All right, so six hairs equals wait, no six protons equal one hair. No, you got to press the proton down to a hair's length
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    | text      = Okay, hair's width
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    | text      = This is crazy
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    | text      = So is that the go is that like the the EU standard of measurement because you know, we use it here
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    | text      = It's imperial measurement. Okay. Okay. Good. I want to make sure a hair's width is actually just down home
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    | text      = European slang for six proton
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    | text      = The size of a quark
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    | text      = Hmm. So is he talking about the up quarks or the down quarks?
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    | text      = I'm not sure. I don't think he knows the difference. All right, I look I
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    | text      = Don't I I'm not I'm not gonna trust somebody
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    | text      = Who like uses that as like a that like a measurement that they're gonna compress
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    | text      = Mass protons that have been collided down to hundreds of millions of protons. Sure in a hair's width
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    | text      = Absolutely, that's like almost two
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    | text      = Thousand angels dancing on a pin. He's still treating it as one at a time
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    | text      = He's still treating it as one particle at a time one particle. Boom. Boom. It's hundreds of millions of times
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    | text      = All right. I don't know man. Look the issue is that they got a grasp on the science. Don't fucking worry about it
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    | text      = These are scholars. Okay that are talking to Jim Baker about it. But Jim is coming at it from a really different perspective
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    | text      = He doesn't really know that much but how can we ignore? I mean we have it on the stage right here, Zach
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    | text      = Here's the pictures in your face
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    | text      = You'll get the machine that man has built to try to find out who is God
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    | text      = Where is God is God alive that was built? They wanted to find the God particle, right?
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    | text      = Very different thing. He thinks it's literal. Yeah, you guys you guys called it the God particle. He
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    | text      = Jim Baker thinks it's literally like particle. They're looking to find God. What is God? Who is God?
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    | text      = Those are not questions that scientists are all that concerned with. I don't believe not really that not really their bag. I
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    | text      = Would you do the audience a solid and explain the importance of the Higgs boson?
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    | text      = Well, the idea is we don't know why gravity well, they're the earth matter. Yeah
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    | text      = I don't know why matter we don't is it is gravity a particle. Is it a
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    | text      = Characteristic, is there something that?
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    | text      = endows
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    | text      = Things with matter with gravity with with all of this stuff. We don't actually know why it happens, right?
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    | text      = And every time we look into it, it only gets more obfuscating and every time you do more experiments
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    | text      = they almost seem to contradict each other half the time and then you got the standard model which predicts what we think we're going to
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    | text      = find and that for the most part makes perfect sense right up until you get to things like dark matter and
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    | text      = Space and and things that we just can't measure. We have no idea how to measure
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    | text      = so what they're really looking for is some sort of confirmation of the standard model or
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    | text      = some
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    | text      = Other model or something that points to the standard model being wrong and then we start getting into wild shit like string theory
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    | text      = Oh, let me start getting into crazy stuff. All I'm hearing here is they're trying to figure out if God is angry or not
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    | text      = That's that's what I hear. Are they making God angry probably well, that's certainly the argument
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    | text      = That's going to be put forth here on this gym because if you start learning how to get gravity going and you then maybe we can
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    | text      = create
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    | text      = Gravity and if we can create gravity, what do we even need God for? Well, see now you're starting to sound like Jim Baker's
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    | text      = paranoid fantasy fears
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    | text      = Which is never the best thing in the world
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    | text      = Never great. Yeah, although I think it's probably very consistent that you would embody that which Jim Baker would be afraid of
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    | text      = I think that's probably that does sound like that does sound like me man
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    | text      = But speaking of things that they're afraid of there's one aspect of CERN that they cannot stop talking about Sweden
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    | text      = It's not
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    | text      = The the Shiva deity that they've got, you know right outside the main offices there
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    | text      = I'm loving it. That's what it does. It does the cosmic dance that that discombubilates the world
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    | text      = Discombubulates look at Shiva. Is that that name? That's right
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    | text      = And what Tom just said I want to reiterate that point but we write outside
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    | text      = stuff
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    | text      = Not me off my chair guys
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    | text      = But what your needs against me? This is the scientist. Okay, why would right?
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    | text      = scientists who don't believe
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    | text      = Many times in religion. Why would they have a God put the God back on the screen Mondo?
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    | text      = There's the God
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    | text      = Shiva
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    | text      = Outside the doors of this machine
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    | text      = Why would he be there Tom?
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    | text      = Well government of India actually gave that as a gift to CERN because they already were working with CERN
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    | text      = But what's inscribed on the plaque beneath it is equally important for Christ. It is called Oh
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    | text      = Omni present
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    | text      = This is the replacement of Jehovah. There's the picture, but there's no there is no other guy. That's well, they think there is
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    | text      = Well those idiots look get ahold of those guys. She's got a bunch of arms
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    | text      = No way, they keep coming back to that over and over again sort of like this is a false God
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    | text      = Yeah, like all right all right guys sure so it was a gift from the the government of India the state of India because
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    | text      = They were an associate country with working on CERN. I just want to I want to write just read this
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    | text      = writing writing about the statue
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    | text      = Eldon Randall Conde a postdoc student working at CERN wrote quote in the light of day when CERN is teeming with life Shiva seems playful
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    | text      = Reminding us that the universe is constantly shaking things up making itself
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    | text      = And is never remaking itself and is never static
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    | text      = but by night when we have more time to contemplate the deeper questions Shiva literally casts a long shadow over our work a bit like
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    | text      = The shadows on Plato's cave Shiva reminds me that when we still don't know the answer to one of biggest the biggest questions presented
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    | text      = By the universe and that every time we collide the beams we must take the cosmic balance sheet into account
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    | text      = So I'm gonna say real quick nerd
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    | text      = And number two look at what it's like whenever you hear somebody who's intelligent talk right that amazing
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    | text      = listen to those words and then compare them with when I stumbled over a couple of compare them with
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    | text      = They're trying to kill God. This is the this is the false
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    | text      = They're trying to replace Jehovah hold on there is only one God
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    | text      = Oh, excuse me, sir. Also physicist Fritz Fritz job Capra further explained in the Tao the Tao of physics quote
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    | text      = The dance of Shiva symbolizes all the basis of all existence at the same time Shiva reminds us that the manifold forms in the world
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    | text      = Are not fundamental but illusory and ever-changing
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    | text      = I need you to stop using words like manifold and illusory if we've got Jim Baker listening
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    | text      = He's not does not understand those words modern physics has shown that the rhythm of creation and destruction is not only
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    | text      = manifest in the turn of the seasons and in the birth of death birth and death of all living creatures but also in the
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    | text      = very essence of inorganic matter
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    | text      = So there's a lot of very nice poetic ways that you can work in the idea of you know, the dance of Shiva
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    | text      = Just all everything. Oh, you don't have to do it religiously. You can just do it poetically
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    | text      = Those guys know who Shiva is right and these guys are like
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    | text      = This he is out here trying to replace Jehovah and you're like you do not know anything about Shiva
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    | text      = Do you sir? Mm-hmm and Jim keeps saying that God. Yeah
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    | text      = So that's that's that God over there. Yeah, so Chris Putnam
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    | text      = I said rest in peace during the when he was introduced
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    | text      = Is he dead or is he just never going to show up on Jim Baker show?
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    | text      = No, he tragically passed. I think it was only like 51 died surprisingly. I'm trying to figure that out
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    | text      = I'm what I could glean. I I would guess it was a heart attack or something like that. He died last year
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    | text      = And you know, I don't I don't take any any enjoyment in that. That's very sad
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    | text      = At the same time. I also don't think it's that tragic. Hey, he had a family
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    | text      = So he has not spoken yet and he jumps in here to explain that
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    | text      = Science proves God and just to put it really simply
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    | text      = What Einstein discovered and what they're discovering the smaller they get is that human consciousness
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    | text      = The observer affects reality. So some of these things it looks like a wave
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    | text      = Okay, sometimes it looks like a bullet like a particle now
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    | text      = It's actually both until somebody looks at it when you look at it. It actually determines what state it's in
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    | text      = Which is really odd given, you know an atheistic world that wouldn't make any sense
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    | text      = Why would your mind have any effect of a reality? So they're actually proving our world view
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    | text      = No through their atheistic mindset whether they realize it or not because they're proving that human consciousness are our our soul
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    | text      = Our essence actually affects physical reality in a way so we really don't understand it all. Nope
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    | text      = Not how that works at all. No, but what they're what they're proving is that light affects light
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    | text      = Light affects light. Hmm, not that the human mind
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    | text      = It's not that we it's not that when we observe it we force the wave function to collapse
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    | text      = It's that in order to observe it we have to shine light on it, which then forces the wave function to collapse
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    | text      = It's not like our eyes are doing it. No, it's our eyes. Okay
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    | text      = Now admittedly, I don't know a whole lot about quantum physics. That's not a area of study that I am very i'm not even really
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    | text      = Really conversant in it necessarily i've watched some youtube videos
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    | text      = Also much like chris probably has also that wasn't einstein
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    | text      = He's very einstein wasn't the guy who figured out that uh, uh light is both a particle and a wave
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    | text      = No, no, there's a little bit after him. I uh, as I understand but um, you know
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    | text      = What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? This is one of those things that like I think that um,
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    | text      = You know uncertainty, uh rules in uh, you know
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    | text      = Like uh the schrodinger's cat kind of well, that's what he's referencing. Right, right, but ideas like that. Uh, really bring up this
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    | text      = it's
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    | text      = It's the form of science that's most easily abused right by people who have an agenda
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    | text      = Especially since the people who do know about it also agree
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    | text      = Nobody really knows that much about it and they're not going to engage like they're not going to be like, oh no
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    | text      = They're not going to go on jim baker's show and thoroughly explain it
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    | text      = No, they're not going to come on this show and fully explain. Hell no
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    | text      = Um, so generally most people don't get uh without studying it don't really understand it
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    | text      = yeah, I don't think these guys have because what you because if you
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    | text      = If you are talking to a quantum physicist, you're eventually going to get to the point where they say
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    | text      = All of this we can measure and I can tell you that this is true
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    | text      = But the stuff that we can't measure is so great that I can't tell you that anything is true. Right, right because
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    | text      = Uh, we're trying man. That's why we got all this
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    | text      = We built the biggest fucking thing ever right just to be like shut the fuck up you asshole
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    | text      = We're not looking for god. We're not trying to open a portal. No
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    | text      = Where are we even where would it even go so far? A lot of this has just been
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    | text      = Still a little bit of laying the groundwork. This is going to spin off the rails pretty hard and I
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    | text      = I believe that it starts in this I feel like misrepresenting the two slits experiment has already made me angry at
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    | text      = How far off the rails this has gone very basically off the rails already off the rails
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    | text      = I have one piece of evidence that it is damning
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    | text      = That jim baker doesn't have and that his guests don't like hold on
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    | text      = Okay, like it would be it's the sort of thing that I legitimately believe is
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    | text      = Disqualifying for the idea that someone has ever read the bible
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    | text      = Or has ever studied ever even read the bible or has ever even studied the idea of christianity
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    | text      = Any of those things I think if you don't know this one piece of information
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    | text      = I think this is one of those times where I wish I got sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I had to cut in real quick
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    | text      = This is one of the times where I feel so miserable that I couldn't that I didn't know what we were going to talk about
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    | text      = because the way my brain works is like
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    | text      = All of this information is spinning around in my head
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    | text      = But now i'm trying to improv it and pull it from all kinds of different directions
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    | text      = So i'm going to sound like an idiot. I should have texted you i'm in like
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    | text      = Brush up on remember remember remember physics and cern and all of that shit and i'm like hey
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    | text      = Yeah, you're doing good, but everything goes off the rails. I believe starting
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    | text      = In this next clip. That's what they're trying to do
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    | text      = Verify a parallel reality now if I remember correctly back when I was a boy no back in the bible days
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    | text      = When they were building a tower
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    | text      = Called babel or babel babel babel
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    | text      = the tower
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    | text      = to
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    | text      = Go into heaven
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    | text      = Is that right? Yeah
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    | text      = now
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    | text      = If my mind serves me correctly
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    | text      = They they were looking for more of a doorway to heaven a stair now, let's face it
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    | text      = You're not going to build a stairway or a tower
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    | text      = And walk up and go into heaven
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    | text      = You can't climb that high
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    | text      = So I don't think they were trying to build just a tower that would get up and say hi god
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    | text      = Good morning. Hey god. Good morning. Hey god. Good morning. What time is it?
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    | text      = What time zone does god live in dad? So that's uh, is he grenich mean time must be yeah, uh, all the upper crust
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    | text      = Okay, subscribe to grenich mean. Yeah. Um, look dude
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    | text      = Fair enough fair play to you
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    | text      = Fair play to you. Uh, jim baker. I suppose. Yes. You can't climb high enough. I
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    | text      = I would call i'm glad he does know that
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    | text      = That's good. That suggests a basic understanding of science. Well
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    | text      = That is in sharp contrast with his co-host zach who comes in with this
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    | text      = Now the crazy thing is this could they have possibly gotten to heaven in the tower of babel?
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    | text      = Would they have if god wouldn't have destroyed them and I would say with an emphatic answer an emphatic
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    | text      = I expected him to say no. Unfortunately, he says what?
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    | text      = Yes, yes
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    | text      = They would have and we can learn this from genesis chapter 11 and it says this
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    | text      = It says and then they said come let us build ourselves a city with a tower that reaches to the heaven
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    | text      = So that we may make a name for ourselves. Otherwise, we'll be scattered over the whole face of the earth, but the lord came down
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    | text      = To see the city and the tower that people were building first of all
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    | text      = I love the idea of like god coming down just to see it like hey, what the fuck are these assholes doing?
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    | text      = Well, actually I love that his real problem was he was hanging his toes off the edge of heaven for a while
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    | text      = And they almost brushed up on that tower and he's like nah, I gotta stop this shit
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    | text      = They're fucking with my fishing strongly disagree. I think what happened is that one of god's buddies came over
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    | text      = He's like god's buddy. He's like they're fucking talking shiva. Yeah, shiva comes over and he's like they're taking they're fucking calling you out your name
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    | text      = They're talking shit about you. You're going to stand for that. So god comes down checks out the city
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    | text      = He's like what the fuck is this tower? It's bullshit sons of bitches who planned this it's right next to a grocery store
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    | text      = Come on, man next to the only way into heaven. We're zoning laws
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    | text      = And the lord said this are you ready for this?
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    | text      = If as one people speaking the same language, they've begun to do this
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    | text      = Then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them the very thing the god of the universe
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    | text      = He said that nothing they do would be impossible for them that that indicates that the very thing that they had set out to do
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    | text      = What have been achieved?
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    | text      = so
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    | timestamp = 00:32:18.880
    | text      = Boy, these guys don't understand metaphor. Well, that's gonna be uh, they really don't understand metaphor
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    | text      = That's gonna be a running theme. So
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    | text      = So even biblical literalists are like they weren't actually building the tower to heaven
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    | text      = Guys, you can't do that. Well, it's not upstairs also
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    | timestamp = 00:32:37.759
    | text      = It's not upstairs also fun little bit of trivia the phrase tower of babel does not exist in the bible
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    | text      = Um, also, it's not a real thing
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    | text      = Uh, it's merely what's known as an etiology which is like a little story that's meant to explain something
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    | text      = Yeah, basically, it's meant to explain why people have different languages and teach children against the idea of hubris against god
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    | text      = Yeah, that sort of thing. It is very similar to this other myth. There are tons of them
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    | text      = It's it's like a it's like a big one. It's in the public consciousness
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    | text      = uh led zeppelin referenced it one time, um
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    | text      = It's that guy dyer maker who?
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    | text      = who uh
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    | text      = Went up like the magic carpet ride. Yes. There you go
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    | text      = It was actually zoso
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    | text      = Well, no, I mean yeah stairway to heaven, uh is icarus it's icarus flying too close to the sun
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    | text      = That's the whole thing. They're even more literal analogs throughout history in different cultures
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    | text      = There's a sumerian myth about m murcar's ziggurat a mexican tale about the construction of the pyramid of cholula
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    | text      = There's a bunch of different versions throughout africa and even some in tibet
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | text      = um and and the historians have tried to figure out exactly like is it possible that there was a tower of babel that this is
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    | text      = like something that um actually comes down from history
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    | text      = And there was a ziggurat dedicated to marduk in babylon called marduk's a bad fella. It was called etimanonkey
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    | text      = Uh, but based on historical context, there's almost no chance
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    | text      = This is what the story in the bible is referring to
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    | text      = One of the chief problems being that the tower of babel was said to be built under nimrod, which would have been around 2000 bc
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    | text      = And etimanonkey, uh is almost certainly from around 12th century BCE
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    | text      = It's impossible to tell for sure since babylon was destroyed in 689 bc and etimanonkey
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    | text      = Uh was destroyed along with it either way
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    | text      = Uh that uh that ziggurat that was built
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    | text      = Was about 300 feet tall, uh, which isn't tiny but for comparison that's less than half the height of the chicago board of trade building
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    | text      = The 44th tallest building in chicago. Do you know what's crazy about that building?
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    | text      = It's about to be taken down by god. It got a little too close everyone there's speaking the same language getting up real close
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    | text      = Nothing is impossible for these people who speak the same language. We got to tear it down tear down that wall. Mr
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    | text      = God, there's also a
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    | text      = A sort of theme in the story that they're missing and not even dealing with and that is the idea that god is affirming that
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    | text      = If people work together, there's they have boundless potential furthermore
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    | text      = It is suggesting that god is afraid of people or is uh vested in them not working together
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    | text      = In some ways, uh, he's like, oh no, uh-uh can't be having this
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    | text      = Yeah, so I mean they keep coming back to this and trying to compare cern to the tower of babel
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    | text      = Okay, and whatever what fine sure whatever. Ah
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    | text      = Do what you do. It's it's only because that one theme of the story the hubris against god is what they're trying to
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    | text      = Create as all that's going on at cern
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    | text      = So now yes
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    | text      = There's more to this story. What's that?
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    | text      = And that is wait the tower of babel. No, we're off tower of babel for now
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    | text      = And now we're getting into the story of tom horn
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    | text      = And uh, chris putnam that sounds like a classic myth. It is one of the great tales of history one of the great love stories
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    | text      = um
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    | text      = Not since uh is old and tristan have we had such a great romance
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    | text      = star crossed lovers
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    | text      = I only know about that is old and tristan because of uh, like I worked at a movie theater when that movie came out
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    | text      = The is old movie or whatever
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    | text      = I believe and all I remember was all of the marketing materials were so petty about romeo and juliette
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    | text      = They were all like I remember it to this day. You think you think romeo and juliette was good. Yeah
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    | text      = You ain't seen shit. It was more like romeo and juliette ripped us off
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    | text      = All right
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    | text      = Wait, wait, so the even the movie people are saying that romeo and juliette ripped tristan
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    | text      = And he's old off that was part of the marketing campaign of it. Yeah, it was crazy
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    | text      = It's nuts, I like it that was 20 years ago probably me working at that movie theater
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    | text      = man, maybe a little less I I genuinely do not know why I know anything about tristan and he's old other than I was in a
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    | text      = I was in literature for a while and somehow that just became a reference point
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    | text      = So, um tom is going to tell a little bit of the story of the beginning of their conspiracy
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    | text      = Uh here, uh, and i'll fill in the blanks as best I can. Is there some kismet? Do they is this serendipity?
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    | text      = No, they've been working together for quite a while. Was the movie serendipity based off of them
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    | text      = I do think that he was john cusack was based on
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    | text      = Perhaps okay. And also I should say tom horn wrote love in the time of color
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    | text      = There's a supernatural force going on and you all have been on amazing trips y'all
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    | text      = You have gone back into the wilderness. You've gone into the deserts you have gone to
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    | text      = uh meet with
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    | text      = the the indian leaders
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    | text      = You have gone to meet with leaders
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    | text      = around the world supernatural things taking place
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    | text      = and uh
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    | text      = I was
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    | text      = writing down
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    | text      = When you were going to meet uh, uh, dr. Mose, I believe his name was that correct m-o-s-e
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    | text      = O-s-e
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    | text      = What was he a medical doctor or no, he's a he dr. Mose
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    | text      = Is the navajo nation's third generation medicine man and oral historian?
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    | timestamp = 00:38:14.940
    | text      = And so apart partly what happened jim was we had gone up to mount graham
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    | text      = You know the whole exovaticana the last time we were on your show talking about that. Oh, of course
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    | text      = And when we came down from uh mount graham, we thought we had all of the answers in the world
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    | text      = The cathics are part of an observatory. We're the biggest in the world, right? One of the lenses is called lucifer, right?
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    | text      = I remember that. Yeah, but it's a
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    | text      = One of the pieces of technology and saw it inside the large binocular telescope is called the lucifer
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    | text      = So well that that makes everything clear dan
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    | text      = This is a big uh conspiracy of the
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    | text      = Though it's begun and propagated by tom horn by these two guys just these two guys are the ones who originated this bullshit
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:02.539
    | text      = Uh, you know populated or popularized it you could say that there were other players involved too, but they're major figures
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The the vatican having a lucifer telescope. Yeah, um, which and they're not going to get into this now because in 2015
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    | text      = it's embarrassing but a lot of the conspiracy around it was that um, the
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The the vatican is in touch with aliens, of course, um, and they're using this, uh, lucifer telescope in order to track neburu
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    | text      = Or planet x okay, which was supposed to come back around in 2012, right at the end of the mayan calendar, right?
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    | text      = All this stuff that stuff didn't happen. Of course
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    | text      = Well, or did it that um, and so you leave that piece off of it and that's why I believe tom horn is like
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    | text      = Wow, it's a piece of the technology the lucifer thing. Sure
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:39:45.980
    | text      = So you gotta toss it anytime somebody is like let's throw in something that some asshole thinks
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    | text      = People do need to get better at naming shit
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Because I get why I get why you would name it lucifer, but if you name it lucifer you have no idea why
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:40:01.019
    | text      = What i'll tell you why it's it was called that why we'll get into it. We'll get into it. Okay. All right
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    | text      = So here's the thing they went to mount graham, which is a mountain and they're named after graham. Sure
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's an opportune place to put telescopes. So there are multiple, uh,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = observatories multiple
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = unrelated entities on mount graham that have telescopes
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    | timestamp = 00:40:25.340
    | text      = So the vatican maintains an observatory there that can uh includes the alice p lennon gregorian telescope
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    | timestamp = 00:40:31.340
    | text      = And the thomas j bannon astrophysics facility. I believe it's called the memorial thomas j bannon
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    | timestamp = 00:40:36.539
    | text      = No, no, uh where said telescope is housed the alice
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    | text      = Uh telescope is inside the thomas, uh astrophysics facility cool
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = This is commonly referred to as the vat complex the att cool also on mount graham
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    | timestamp = 00:40:49.659
    | text      = But unconnected to that is the mount graham international observatory which contains the large binocular telescope
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    | text      = part of the technology at mgio is an infrared spectra, uh
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    | timestamp = 00:41:00.199
    | text      = spectroscopy imagery module known as the large binocular telescope near infrared
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    | text      = Spectrosonic utility with camera and integral field unit for extragalactic research initially the acronym for this was lucifer
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    | timestamp = 00:41:13.199
    | text      = But since christian weirdos kept being weird about it
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    | text      = They changed it to lucifer gotcha because you you take out some of the I mean
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:41:19.760
    | text      = There's no way that's going to make a word now
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    | text      = So you drop a couple of the words off the acronym you end up with lucifer if you're some sort of uh, not vatican connected
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    | text      = Uh astrologists are like, whoa, look at that. It kind of makes lucifer. Yeah, there you go. Do it
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:41:32.639
    | text      = Yep, in the same way that that blue horse outside the denver airport that giant blue horse
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    | text      = Oh, but all those conspiracies are true. No, they're not they they called that lucifer
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:41:41.280
    | text      = Yeah, that's what they want is the red eyes
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    | text      = But when you look into it
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    | text      = It has to do with the artist's history and the artist's life and his dad owning a neon shop when he was a kid
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:41:49.440
    | text      = So he decorated it with some neon eyes as an homage to his father all this shit
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    | timestamp = 00:41:54.159
    | text      = Anyway, the reality of things is often less interesting than uh, assuming that the pope has sanctioned a telescope
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    | timestamp = 00:42:01.380
    | text      = Called lucifer in the middle of uh, mount graham. Yeah, where to monitor planet x well
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    | timestamp = 00:42:07.780
    | text      = Yeah, and they communicate with aliens. Yeah, who doesn't um within the worlds we inhabit
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:13.699
    | text      = Seems like a lot of people are communicating with aliens these days seems like we're the only ones who aren't we're the only ones
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    | text      = Why don't we have our own telescope?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:22.260
    | text      = We really should get one just like a small one though like within our budget. They're not cheap put it on uh mount
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:28.019
    | text      = Dan sure. Yeah, it's like mount dan. Yeah. Um, there is a danville in almost every state
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:33.219
    | text      = I bet there's a little tiny hill in danville. We'll call it mount dan
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    | timestamp = 00:42:36.980
    | text      = This will be good
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    | timestamp = 00:42:38.500
    | text      = knowledge fight memorial, uh mount dan telescope, um, so
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    | text      = We're gonna get into the native american stuff a little bit later. He's gonna bring that back up
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:47.139
    | text      = I was gonna say why did he toss in some native american medicine man if we're all about uh,
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    | timestamp = 00:42:52.260
    | text      = God and jahova we'll discuss that in a more full way before I get into the more of the stuff here about this lucifer telescope
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    | timestamp = 00:42:59.860
    | text      = Uh-huh and mount graham. Okay, most of his ideas about um, this
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:05.780
    | text      = Uh connection with ufos and stuff is based on an interview with a guy named guy
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    | timestamp = 00:43:10.820
    | text      = Cons consul magno, uh who uh is uh attache
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:15.460
    | text      = He was the past president of the i uh, iau commission on planets and moons cool has an affiliation with uh, the valor
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:21.619
    | text      = With uh the vatican nice. Um, so he had an interview with him, uh, and a little bit later
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:27.940
    | text      = after tom horn started putting out a bunch of information about uh interviews with this consul magno guy, uh,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:36.099
    | text      = Consul magno guy consul magno came out with this statement quote about a year ago an author whom I will not name or link
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:43.300
    | text      = To conducted an extensive interview with me by email. I thought he was a legitimate journalist
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:47.940
    | text      = However, seeing the ways in which he is twisted misquoted and invented utter falsehoods from the things I said
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:53.139
    | text      = I've come to suspect he is either a knave or a fool
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:55.619
    | text      = There are no vatican secrets about ufos neither. I nor anyone I know has any evidence that extraterrestrials exist
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    | timestamp = 00:44:01.780
    | text      = We do not believe that jesus is a hybrid or any of the other bizarre claims this author makes
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:06.260
    | text      = He is either seriously deluded or a deliberate con man. Let me rephrase this as strongly as I can
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:11.139
    | text      = I do not know of any credible evidence at all that there has ever been contact of any form between extraterrestrial aliens and earth
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    | timestamp = 00:44:18.179
    | text      = Period I cannot imagine a circumstance where such contact could be kept secret for very long
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    | timestamp = 00:44:22.739
    | text      = And I say this not only as an active astronomer for 40 years
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    | timestamp = 00:44:25.940
    | text      = But also as someone who knows lots of people in the ceti community who would love to have such evidence
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    | timestamp = 00:44:31.380
    | text      = And as someone who's been an officer of the american astronomer
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:33.940
    | text      = Astronomical society and the international astronomical union if there's something like this going on we'd all be talking about it
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:41.079
    | text      = There isn't and we aren't yeah, they would pretty much be talking about it non-stop
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    | timestamp = 00:44:45.719
    | text      = It might be the only thing anyone would ever talk about right?
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    | text      = So it would take a while for the novelty to wear off and people to be like, ah, this is what are we talking about?
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    | timestamp = 00:44:55.000
    | text      = Aliens again fuck off. Yeah, so he is, uh completely
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    | timestamp = 00:44:58.599
    | text      = Uh misrepresented, uh, the interview that he had with him in order to bolster all this stuff, which I bring up partially because it's related
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    | text      = But also mostly because it is the sort of behavior that these people do
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    | timestamp = 00:45:09.800
    | text      = Yeah
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:45:10.039
    | text      = They take people entirely out of context or just make stuff up and hope you can just roll the bones and no one will notice
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:45:16.039
    | text      = Hope they never find out and hope no one looks into it
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    | timestamp = 00:45:18.760
    | text      = Also, there aren't a lot of good opportunities to uh use the word nave properly
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:45:22.920
    | text      = Hmm, that's a fun word to toss around and that is the most accurate word that guy could have used
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    | timestamp = 00:45:28.760
    | text      = It's almost like he chooses his words very carefully and decides to use them when they are appropriate also
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    | text      = It's fun because when they talk about going to mount graham
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    | text      = Um, I believe there will be some of this in the episode as we go along
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    | timestamp = 00:45:41.239
    | text      = but they sort of portray it as like they broke in or like it was some sort of a like
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:45:45.400
    | text      = It's a false flag operation or it was some sort of a like, uh ballsy investigative project veritas infiltration
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    | timestamp = 00:45:53.239
    | text      = Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they sort of try and present it as like a dramatic
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    | timestamp = 00:45:58.280
    | text      = uh detective sort of thing but
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    | timestamp = 00:46:01.559
    | text      = they
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    | text      = You can take a tour like it's open to the public
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    | timestamp = 00:46:06.119
    | text      = Like it's not none of the if you called and you presented yourself as a journalist
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:46:10.440
    | text      = You could probably interview anybody there you get a tour if you call and presented yourself as just you you could probably get a tour
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:46:17.079
    | text      = Oh, you know if you paid like I think it's 40 bucks. You're gonna get a tour. Anybody should get a tour
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    | text      = We're not close. Oh, okay. Uh, but the yeah, the the idea is they're trying to create this sort of mythos around
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    | text      = Uh what they did like going to mount graham was dangerous for them and they solved a mystery, right?
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    | text      = And then they come down and talk to the native americans, which again we'll talk about here in a second
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    | text      = Okay, and all of it is horseshit. Yeah, like all of it is just classic. They're just they're just tourists lying
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    | text      = Yeah, they they are is they're selling you on a uh slide show that you wouldn't otherwise like
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    | text      = Like you're not gonna watch their slideshow like look we've all been on vacation, dude
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    | text      = but they're they have to sell it as a
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    | text      = It's an investigation and we figured it all out because you know
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    | text      = That's the equivalent of your friend like punching himself in the face and taking a picture while he's on vacation
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    | text      = Oh, yeah, here's a picture of after I got mugged just to spice it up, right?
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    | timestamp = 00:47:09.800
    | text      = That didn't happen on your trip, but the rest of the trip wasn't a good story. It was a good time
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    | text      = How good of a story is they let us in and were very gracious and talked to us
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    | text      = You gotta have punch up on everything dan reality is kind of boring
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    | text      = So I told you that we're gonna get to the native americans and it turns out we get to them much sooner than I expected
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    | text      = Are we we're still just letting go all of the shit that they've said so far as not being that far off the rails, right?
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    | text      = Oh, no, just because this is gonna get further off the rails a hundred percent a hundred percent
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    | text      = I don't understand how that's possible. It goes off the rails in multiple directions
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    | text      = We've gone off that we've already got the tower of babel is about them
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    | timestamp = 00:47:47.780
    | text      = Actually being capable of getting all the way up to god, right?
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    | timestamp = 00:47:51.000
    | text      = They're the large hadron collider is about finding and what the creator of god creating an alternate portal
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    | text      = Uh, there's we're
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    | text      = so far so good what
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    | text      = What are we doing here? What are we doing here?
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    | text      = So as the best I can tell you is that as this goes along it's not like the train goes off the rails
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    | timestamp = 00:48:13.320
    | text      = It's like little cars break off of the train and go off the rails in different directions
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    | timestamp = 00:48:19.079
    | text      = Okay, and you're sort of still tracking those trains as the it's some of them explode and it's a whole thing. Sure
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    | text      = Um here is where we get into the sort of the beginnings of what he wants to talk about about native americans
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    | text      = Things
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    | text      = We think okay, we we've solved the mystery right of what's going on in mount ram he's talking about after he got a tour
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | timestamp = 00:48:40.119
    | text      = And then we get contacted by the apache
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:43.559
    | text      = By a member of the apache nation who wants us to know that he heard us on the radio
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:48.199
    | text      = He saw us on tv and we have missed probably the biggest piece of the puzzle and we're like, well, what is that?
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    | text      = And he says the reason that the apache joined the environmentalists to sue the vatican and to sue nasa
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    | text      = And to try to keep them from getting up on the top of that mountain
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    | text      = Is because mount graham is one of the four holiest mountains in the world for all american indigenous tribes
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    | text      = Not just the apache and it is uh, jim because it is a portal it is a doorway
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    | timestamp = 00:49:17.340
    | text      = It is a gateway. It is a strategic location on earth where since the beginning of time
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:24.599
    | text      = Entities have come in and out of this reality
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    | text      = Well when he told me that we we went and vetted the story to make sure that was true what it is
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:32.780
    | text      = Uh, and then boy the conspiracy life went off in our head about now why?
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    | text      = I would like more information on this vetting process. How do you vet?
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    | text      = This is a portal that many people have many entities have entered in and out of over
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    | timestamp = 00:49:49.500
    | text      = Human history the only response I have to that question is I looked into it and i'm very sad to report that tom horn
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    | timestamp = 00:49:55.739
    | text      = Has not been on project camelot
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    | timestamp = 00:49:57.900
    | text      = That belongs on fucking project. No, I was just thinking about this
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like what happens when you combine?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:03.340
    | text      = People who believe in god with people who are willing to lie about science and then just throw god in there is project camelot
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    | timestamp = 00:50:09.260
    | text      = But I think even like beneath the surface a little bit carrie is probably a little religious. Oh, yeah
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    | timestamp = 00:50:14.380
    | text      = Swery carrie leans a little religious. Yeah
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    | text      = scientists
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    | text      = uh are
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    | timestamp = 00:50:20.539
    | text      = Generally speaking not always but usually responsible people and so they don't say things like
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:29.099
    | text      = We're trying to we're finding a portal and there's a fucking portal up here. That's why we built this
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:33.900
    | text      = And then and the apache are the protectors of the portal scientists
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:37.179
    | text      = Maybe also there's a certain bit of like old school like 1940s adventurism
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    | timestamp = 00:50:43.820
    | text      = Built into that. That's what I was talking. Yeah, that's what's built into the idea
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    | timestamp = 00:50:46.780
    | text      = It's like we we talked to that steinly got into this observatory
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:50.539
    | text      = Well, not just that but like there's a there's a native american who is our our our fetishization
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:56.059
    | text      = Yeah, he's our our sherpa our men to take us through. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's the whole thing now. I have that backwards
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    | timestamp = 00:51:02.619
    | text      = That's what haji would call. Uh, dr
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    | timestamp = 00:51:04.619
    | text      = Quest I apologize. I was backwards but the same relationship was a an indian. I understand that. Okay, nevermind sort of relationship
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    | timestamp = 00:51:11.739
    | text      = No agreed. Yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right there. Um, this is a 1940s boys adventure
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:17.260
    | text      = Look, I want to say that I understand I agree 100
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:19.739
    | text      = Yeah, I the reason I can't respond to that clip really is because I don't know his vetting process
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:26.139
    | text      = And I can't vet that information. I'm pretty sure he threw a rock through the portal
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:29.900
    | text      = I can't vet that information about the portal, but you know what I can do what I can vet other things
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:35.340
    | text      = He says and I can use that as context clues about whether or not I should trust him this next clip. I've vetted
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    | timestamp = 00:51:42.380
    | text      = And you lived in arizona by the way, you know why they call the the phoenix metropolitan area the valley of the sun
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:48.860
    | text      = It's because when the giants came down through wiping out the indians and they ran and hid in the caves
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:53.659
    | text      = They cried out to the sun god the great god and he set a flood
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:57.260
    | text      = That came across the earth and wiped out all of the giants and that's why the metropolitan area is called the valley of the sun
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:03.820
    | text      = Because god wiped out the giants there
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    | timestamp = 00:52:06.780
    | text      = That's an interesting theory. So
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    | timestamp = 00:52:09.739
    | text      = Headline on that day
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:11.820
    | text      = Giants killed by flood. Mm-hmm. How big were the giants huge huge huge were they the new york giants or the san francisco giants?
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    | text      = there were the
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:21.500
    | text      = Nephilim giants nephilim giants. Yeah. So the so the native americans also believed in the nephilim
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:28.059
    | text      = yeah, or or perhaps the nephilim just
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:31.900
    | text      = Tossed in bitch. You don't have to believe in the nephilim. They exist. There we go. All right
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:36.300
    | text      = You know what? You're right. You're right. How dare you and of course this as we all should have known because it's a very
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:43.099
    | text      = Well-known concept that everyone within a certain community knows
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    | timestamp = 00:52:46.780
    | text      = The valley of the sun right is because named such because giants got flooded giants were fucking all over the place
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:53.739
    | text      = The neighborhood was lousy with giants. You couldn't step anywhere without getting stepped on so they prayed in caves
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:59.980
    | text      = And the god of the sun right brought a flood and they killed off all the giants. I'm serious. They didn't kill them in the caves
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:06.780
    | text      = Which seems like a trap during a flood
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:11.980
    | text      = It's a selective flood
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:13.980
    | text      = meh, furthermore is this guy's does this guy think that
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:19.900
    | text      = Because he'd sign it kind of sounds like he believes that that did happen. Oh, he definitely believes well
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:25.900
    | text      = I think it's that thin line for con men. It's like you never really you know, like a good poker player
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:31.579
    | text      = You're not really sure if they're bluffing or not right good con men or people who've been doing it for long enough
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:36.380
    | text      = You kind of don't know if they really believe it or if it's just a bluff
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:39.260
    | text      = But he's very much suggesting within his twisted worldview right that this is so named
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:45.019
    | text      = Because of a literal event that happened. That's interesting right because here which suggests that there is a god of the sun
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:53.579
    | text      = Is not
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:54.860
    | text      = The jehovah no. Oh, that's interesting too. So who's who's jehovah? Where's jehovah at in this whole situation?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:02.219
    | text      = There's only one god
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:03.659
    | text      = Why did they get the flood if there's okay because they just think of jehovah as the sun god
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:08.460
    | text      = It's all it's all one god many names. He is this he is the god of the sun and i'm telling you something
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:14.940
    | text      = Ain't no sun like the son of god. You know what i'm saying?
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    | timestamp = 00:54:17.239
    | text      = Unfortunately, i'm going to read to you from an article in arizona central, uh azcentral.com quote
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:22.460
    | text      = It's critical for cities to be properly marketed to create a sense of place for residents and a luring vacation destination for tourists
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    | timestamp = 00:54:30.940
    | text      = boosters touted phoenix
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:32.940
    | text      = Boosters touted phoenix as being the quote denver of the southwest in the 1890s a slogan that seems a tad
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:40.199
    | text      = Unimaginative in the 1920s. They tried quote where summer because where summer winters and quote the golden spot of america
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    | timestamp = 00:54:47.980
    | text      = But both were duds in 1935 the valley of the sun slogan was coined by a local advertising agency for the phoenix chamber of commerce
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:55.739
    | text      = The group felt the slogan had a quote direct reader appeal that cannot help but attract interest according to a 1935
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:01.760
    | text      = arizona republic article valley of the sun is a tourism nickname cooked up by the phoenix metro area in the
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:07.760
    | text      = 1930s because it sounded better than the accurate name the salt river valley
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:12.159
    | text      = The reason for the name is that the metropolitan area may well be one of the sunniest places in the country receiving an average of
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:18.320
    | text      = 295 days of sunlight a year as opposed to the national average of 205
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:23.039
    | text      = This does not come from native american legend comes from 1930s arizona tourism boards
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    | timestamp = 00:55:27.760
    | text      = I am a big fan of when you could find this by looking into it at all
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    | timestamp = 00:55:34.079
    | text      = Googling it tom horn. You could congratulations on your studying
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:38.079
    | text      = I'm a big fan of any time that kind of claim comes out
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    | timestamp = 00:55:41.599
    | text      = Uh on our show and then you just immediately point to and this was marketing and you oh god
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:48.239
    | text      = Yeah, great. So this is an ad agency, but it also speaks to how good that ad agency was
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    | timestamp = 00:55:53.039
    | text      = It's really good. I tricked tom horn in the present that also years later. That also is not that hard to do
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    | timestamp = 00:55:58.800
    | text      = I feel like no probably not
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:00.639
    | text      = So you just got to tell tom horn something he wants to hear and he will be tricked. Yeah, so
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:06.480
    | text      = Like i'm saying there are claims you can vet and there's claims that you can't
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    | timestamp = 00:56:10.880
    | text      = The fan you the fact that I prove or disprove that the giants were flooded though. Well, see I can't but I don't care
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:17.599
    | text      = Because I can prove that he doesn't know that that was a tourist slogan, right?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:21.440
    | text      = From the night from 1935 that an ad agency came up with not something that is really indicative of uh, Navajo
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:29.679
    | text      = uh legends parallel thinking Dan parallel thinking the Navajo came up with it first and then
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:35.760
    | text      = Hundreds of years later the marketing guy. He just got influenced by the sun god
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:40.480
    | text      = I would recommend everybody to read as many articles as I have read today about why is phoenix club the valley of the sun
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:47.760
    | text      = And all of them will point you in the exact same direction has nothing to do the sun god flooded him with
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:55.679
    | text      = Ideas, and that's what happened. That's why it's called the valley of the sun
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:59.360
    | text      = So, um in that clip before this where tom was talking hot bullshit
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:04.400
    | text      = He was saying that he talked to a Navajo man
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:07.199
    | text      = Uh, the perhaps the medicine man, dr. Mays not maze. I thought he was apache
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:12.719
    | text      = No, he's very fast and loose about these things. Gotcha
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:15.199
    | text      = Oh, oh, he's not very respectful about the first nations
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:17.360
    | text      = No, he's not and he's especially not because he refers to people as anasazi as we as we discussed
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:22.639
    | text      = Why does that only come up on jim baker's show by the way weird weird that that specific racism such a very specific racism
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:29.280
    | text      = Yeah, maybe it's not even racism, but ethnic insensitivity ignorance. Yeah. Um, it willful ignorance seems very consistent
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:36.079
    | text      = And I actually know I actually kind of know why um, it's because this tom horn and steve quail are good friends
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:41.599
    | text      = They're oh, okay. They're contemporaries. Gotcha and know each other and do each other's radio shows all the time
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:47.199
    | text      = Gotcha. So the idea that both of them will spout nonsense about anasazi people makes perfect sense
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:53.599
    | text      = Yeah, absolutely. Gotcha. So here is more, uh from this Navajo gentleman that tom horn talked to and boy i'll tell you what
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:01.519
    | text      = I have a very simple explanation for this. Okay?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:04.880
    | text      = At first he's just going down the storyline
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:07.840
    | text      = Right, he's telling what they hear in their schools. He's saying well a drought came along and so the ancient anasazi
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    | text      = They migrated away out of the area
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    | text      = They eventually become the hopi and I stop him in the film and I say but i've heard there's a lot of evidence
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    | text      = That contradicts that for instance they left everything behind all their salt all their tools everything was still inside the cave
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    | text      = So they disappeared overnight. They didn't migrate away slowly and he looks into the camera and he says
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    | text      = well, I should not tell you this but and then he starts saying if you would have asked my great-grandfather
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    | text      = Here's the story that he would have told and he describes a portal opening in the four corners area
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    | text      = And that same reptilian that had that had a caused such havoc with the apache
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    | text      = Comes through over there and they draw pictures petroglyphs
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    | text      = Some of these are a thousand years before jesus christ walked into the cave
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    | text      = Some of these are a thousand years before jesus christ walked on the earth
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    | text      = And they show a portal the spiral vortex. The portal is opening right next to it
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    | text      = Is this giant reptilian with the halo around his head that comes through and what does he do?
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    | text      = He starts teaching the anasazi this according to the the navajo
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    | text      = historian he starts they he starts teaching the um
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    | text      = The anasazi dark magic black magic and they go down into their kivas into their underground places
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    | text      = It should be holy places and they start pharmakeia the the new testament would call it they start using
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    | text      = Sorcery and drugs and they get in contact with these things and they bring them through
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    | text      = The portals and now all of a sudden there's giants in the anasazi area and they're cannibalizing
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    | text      = So that's a lot so
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    | text      = I can actually explain that in one sentence that I should probably say before you go off on go for it. Um,
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    | text      = The reason that this navajo guy's grandfather would say this about the people who he's referring to is anasazi
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    | text      = Is because if we recall what we talked about on that steve quail episode anasazi means literally in navajo language ancient enemies
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    | text      = Yeah, so the idea that a navajo guy had some sort of cultural tradition about demonizing anasazi
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    | text      = Yeah folk who we should call uh pueblo and yeah ancestors. Yeah. Um
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    | text      = That to me is just sort of an artful hateful. Um
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    | text      = Ideology, okay. Why do we not like these pueblans, right?
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    | text      = Why do we call them ancestral enemies because they steal our jobs?
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    | text      = Well, no not just that it's because when that portal opened and demon reptilian beings came through they were susceptible to the black magic
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    | text      = And that's why even though we probably should all just get along and live out our common, uh purposes and goods in life
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    | text      = No, they are black magic. They're the other and we don't trust them
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    | text      = What he is doing is he is being fucking incredibly stupid tom horn
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    | text      = Yeah, he's not taking cultural context into it at all if I heard if I like
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    | text      = You understand what i'm saying? I do
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    | text      = What I don't understand is why is everyone listening and nodding?
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    | text      = You mean the people at morning view? Yeah, it's weird. Why are they doing that doesn't this fly in the face of all of their beliefs?
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    | text      = Like if they if that's true, no, no, so if they're because they're they're nodding as though this was a thing that he's because he's
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    | text      = Emphasizing that this is what uh, the navajo
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    | text      = Historian says to him right as a true thing. Yeah. He's also insisting that portals are real
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    | text      = Oh, they're real. So he's now suggesting that a thousand years before jesus christ
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    | text      = There were navajo
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    | text      = Sorcerer or not navajo anasazi sorcerers who had the capability to open portals bring giants and reptilian
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    | text      = Guys with halos right and everybody who's christian is just like whoa
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    | text      = Everybody who's christian is just like whoa. I can't believe that happened. Well, that's a thing. I think a piece of it is
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    | text      = um
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    | text      = They believe that giants are in the bible
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    | text      = And so the bringing in the giants are like, oh these are just sort of extra demonic beings or whatever
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    | text      = Right, right and the portal stuff. I believe that tom believes
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    | text      = I'm, not sure he spells this out fully
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    | text      = Portals are sort of blasé. They're just sort of like whatever god can make them portals or whatever man
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    | text      = I feel like portals should be a bigger deal than that. And so angels, uh in tom's uh, he does bring this up a couple times
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    | text      = Angel just means messenger. Oh, it doesn't have to be a race of beings or something like that
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    | text      = It could be all sorts of different messenger, right?
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    | text      = It's a job not a type of thing and that really changes that danny glover movie a lot and that uh, christopher lloyd movie
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    | text      = Oh, yeah, that's the same movie. Oh
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    | text      = Let me tell you something did you got an angel with you right now?
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    | text      = It was a remake though, it was a remake to be fair might be the best moment of this podcast ever
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    | text      = Messengers in the outfit
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    | text      = Nearly as well
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    | text      = And I mean, you know giants in the outfield would still be great you got willie mays all good
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    | text      = They got about a hundred and uh 80 of those movies a year, right?
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    | text      = Something like that baseball season
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    | text      = Guys
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    | text      = How do we move forward from that? I don't know. I don't know
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    | text      = What's once you get a good angels in the outfield bet going it's it's hard to it's hard to escape
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    | text      = So but I would say that he thinks that all that uh fits into his warped version of what the christianity says
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    | text      = And like what the uh, the the bible actually says which it doesn't
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    | text      = They but it really sounds like they're all looking at this and learning history
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    | text      = Like that's the way that they're yes
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    | text      = Like that's the way that jim baker and all these people are presenting it as they're like, whoa
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    | text      = Look at this pit of human history. That's 100% real that I didn't know that co-host zach was saying
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    | text      = They literally could make a tower to heaven. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what is going on here. This is
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    | text      = You you've pointed this out earlier
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    | text      = I worry that none of these people have ever actually read the bible. I worry that they've read these um,
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    | text      = nouveau
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    | text      = Translations of the bible like the message version of the bible and stuff like that. I don't know that one
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    | text      = That's one of those. I don't it probably maybe after even both of our times, uh when we were in the church
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    | text      = Um, but it's a translation that tries to put the bible into modern terms and stuff like that. So it loses a lot of the uh,
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    | text      = Essence of the the king james version or even the niv version and jesus walked up and he was like you guys aren't cool
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    | text      = Selling this shit in the church and then jesus pulled him out and he put his sunglasses on
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | text      = And even those versions like the the sort of classically accepted versions. They even have their problems
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    | text      = I mean like if you study classical languages at all
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    | text      = One of the things you you know, you start to have to look at is that like in ancient greek?
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    | text      = Like for instance, they didn't really usually ever write vowels and stuff like that. Yeah, and they didn't put spaces between words
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    | text      = So a lot of that makes things very difficult, but there are ways you can you know, you suss it all out
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    | text      = And figure it out. So like there is a there is a construction that you can make of texts and stuff like that
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    | text      = But it's it's imprecise sometimes and that's greek a language. We fucking understand almost fully
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | text      = so when you take these biblical texts that are from like coine greek, uh, and you have
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    | text      = That level of detachment from it and that much like the other thing like so in college
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    | text      = I translated the ilead in one of my classes one semester was dedicated just to translating the ilead
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    | text      = Uh-huh, and one of the things that always has struck in my head like it
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    | text      = It's something that I think about very regularly. There are multiple words in the ilead that don't exist anywhere else ever in writing
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    | text      = Like there's one that is like the only one I can remember is poly phlois boss
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    | text      = There's a word that only exists one time in the ilead and never again in greek in no other greek writing
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    | text      = Um, it means many flowing
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    | text      = um
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    | text      = It's a word that's used to describe
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    | text      = Almost the sound of the water lapping up against boats, uh-huh and stuff like that
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    | text      = It's a descriptor, uh epithet of a river. Um, the many the poly voice boss. Uh, yeah
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    | text      = yeah, um, and that has always struck in my mind because
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    | text      = When you have these ancient languages and there are examples of like these words that only exist once yeah
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    | text      = um, there's the in preciseness of
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    | text      = Of translation and then on top of that if you've ever looked into the dead sea scrolls, you would know that most of that is fragments
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    | text      = Yeah, you know like so well isn't the ilead fragments too
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    | text      = Somewhat. Yeah a lot of that or at least people consider it to be part of a far larger series of stuff
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    | text      = Anyway, anyways, i'm sorry for interrupting part of oral tradition
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    | text      = Yeah, like whatever it originally was isn't what it was when it was eventually. Yeah, exactly
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    | text      = yeah, but but in terms of the dead sea scrolls, you know, and um,
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    | text      = um, they found all those scrolls at kumran, uh, and they
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    | text      = Tried to put them together as best as they could right, but even if you look at any
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    | text      = Scholarly text about the dead sea scrolls. You're going to have caveats like yeah a lot of this is missing, right?
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    | text      = You know and stuff like and that's the case for a lot of fucking books
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    | text      = There's a lot of books in the bible that have had to be reconstructed right and have been over time, right? So
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    | text      = to me
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    | text      = When you have that much and you understand that much you kind of have to accept fallibility in the text and then beyond that
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    | text      = You have to
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    | text      = really
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    | text      = avoid
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    | text      = hip cool translations
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    | text      = Because they're going to lead you into like a stupid world where you're like reading this and god says hey, bro
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    | text      = What's up, or something like that, you know, that's not what it says, but it's that sort of parallel like hey
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    | text      = God says what's going on?
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    | text      = You know, you're going to lose pretty much everything. You'll get the spirit. I guess maybe uh,
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    | text      = Maybe the intent of the text but you're not going to get any of it. Well, I mean in my in my world
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah
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    | text      = Just because I want to make this very clear the message version of the bible the message translation
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    | text      = The last jim baker episode we did was about uh, paula white cain. Uh-huh. That's her favorite translation
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    | text      = Oh, she makes that very clear and so like that's one of the reasons why that is something that comes up in my mind
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    | text      = Yeah, when we're talking about what do these people have they ever read the bible, right?
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    | text      = And yeah, they probably have but they've read a version that's almost like a harry potter novel, right?
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    | text      = It's written to be read by people who like novels. It stars poochy more or less. Yeah. So what you're saying?
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    | text      = Yeah, no, I mean in in to that to that in in like my world just in a pure present tense
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    | text      = uh reading uh a rainier
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    | text      = maria rilke
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    | text      = uh a book of his poetry in german and then reading the translation in and german and english are
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    | text      = very very close languages true, but you will never actually get like there's such a massive difference between those two and we
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    | text      = all understand like people who speak german have studied german their entire lives and and
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    | text      = Translators are trying their hardest to get the same kind of feel and flavor of that and put it into english
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    | text      = And you simply cannot no so that's that's just something that's happening today
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    | text      = Let alone something where you only have 10 words that he used and you have to try and extrapolate an entire language
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    | text      = well, and you have to consider like, um
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    | text      = Idioms. Yeah, which people who are actual scholars do right is one of the easy ways not easy ways
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    | text      = But it's one of the convenient ways you can date texts
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    | text      = Yeah, like a lot of the times you can tell oh this comes from this period because that idiom was not
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    | text      = Uh in function at that time, but that makes it that makes it incredibly difficult
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    | text      = Like wordplay exists in ancient languages wordplay exists in german that can't be translated to english
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    | text      = Even in modern languages you lose
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    | text      = Um a bit of right a bit of the flair. Yeah, when you try and translate german into english. It's like, uh,
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    | text      = Trying to stuff a cat full of boots and drop it in the water exactly. Yep. Try and translate that you uk fucks
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    | text      = Fucks
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    | text      = Um, so let's get back into this, um, that's right that was a that was a long tangent
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    | text      = Yeah, um at this point we uh hear uh, what I would describe as a return
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    | text      = From chris putnam who has been sort of playing second fiddle
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    | text      = All right, uh to uh tom horn throughout most of this but he comes in hot he comes in strong
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    | text      = Uh with a very stupid thing. Okay that he's going to say good
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    | text      = So 20 30 years ago, would you think there'd be a reality program on television about hunting for ghosts? Yes
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    | text      = I mean today there's 30 or 40 of them. Yeah competing with each other. That's right. Okay
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    | text      = Yeah, I think that's indicative of the age that we're in. I mean competing with you
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    | text      = It's not just that belief in these things are increasing that the phenomena themselves are becoming
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    | text      = You know more manifest what?
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    | text      = What so it's a sign of the times that there's a bunch of ghost hunting shows where they never find anything
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    | text      = Um, and most of them aren't about ghost hunting. There's like there's the one show that's like, hey
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    | text      = It's really more about the fact that these are a bunch of college students who are
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    | text      = Doing this and they aren't they cool and young and fun and they they think they're the ghostbusters
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    | text      = And then there's that one where it's a frat guy who's yelling at ghosts to hit him and stuff like that
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    | text      = It's really more about that and then there's fear on mtv
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    | text      = That was really just about the fact that the camera was on the person's face and everyone cries all the time
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    | text      = Never saw that one. Oh, man, that one was so good. Was it fear was the best fear was the best
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    | text      = So they would go to just fear porn they would go to abandoned hospitals and stuff like that or like a prison
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    | text      = Places that are allegedly haunted. Yes, and they'd be left there and the only video and that would be afraid
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    | text      = The only video it's like a team of four or five people
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    | text      = Yeah, and the only video on the show is from surveillance cameras that mtv has set up around the place
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    | text      = Okay, and then a video camera that's hooked to a rig. So it's like pointing at their face at all, right?
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    | text      = Right, right and they have to go through the night. They have to spend the night at this place
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    | text      = And throughout it they get challenges where generally it'll be like two people
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    | text      = So they have a home base god mtv was great. They have a home base that's safe and there's lights and stuff like that
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    | text      = And they get to stay
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    | text      = I love the show. They stay in there, uh initially and then they get these missions
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    | text      = So it'll be like two of them have to go
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    | text      = To like the a the j-wing of the of the prison right and then it turns out one of the cells
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    | text      = Someone hung themselves in that cell. Oh, no
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    | text      = So one of the people will have to stay in that cell what for like 30 minutes and try and contact that spirit
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    | text      = Oh, they'll have to do something very specific. Uh-huh. And then the other person will have to go away and do something else
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    | text      = So they all end up getting left alone, right and everybody just ends up freaking out see now
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    | text      = See now I want to combine that with like the real world versus road rules challenge. Oh, so you get ct
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    | text      = So you get them you get them and it's like you got to go into the cell where somebody hung themselves
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    | text      = But you got to do like 30 pull-ups in there. So, you know, that would be great stuff
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    | text      = You got to drink a bunch and yell about women. Yeah, that'd be the great that'd be a great way to go
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    | text      = I would like that combination. They did do a celebrity version of fear. Of course they did that one was awesome
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    | text      = Everybody wants to watch celebrities be afraid gary bucy was on it and he was
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    | text      = as
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    | text      = I recall
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    | text      = Is the mascot of it as I recall the only person who wasn't scared
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    | text      = Of course not just gary bucy has no fear. I celebrate you spirits
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    | text      = Gary bucy was in point break dan. He's never been afraid of anything. It's true
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    | text      = um
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    | text      = So don't hurt too my my point about this is more that I don't think these ghost hunting shows are a sign of the times
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    | text      = I think they're a a fad that happened because people realized like there's a lot of different ways
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    | text      = We could turn this genre into a different show
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    | text      = Yeah, like a reality show right you but but it's an interesting context in the same way that like
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    | text      = You know, there's a lot of different dating shows. Yeah, generally it's not about the dating
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    | text      = It's about the twist that you put on the rating show
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    | text      = Like are they dating naked? Like is it next is it eliminate? Is it next next was great. Well next was all fake
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    | text      = there's at least shows like
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    | text      = Shipmates where they were dating on a boat. We don't we don't talk about chris hardwick. Oh, yeah. I apologize
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    | text      = Yeah sucks that he hosted shipmates. Ah, that motherfucker shipmates was so good. Who would have guessed damn it
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    | text      = Hey, we could have probably seen it coming. Um, so anyway in this next clip we get more project. Camelot talk from tom horn
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    | timestamp = 01:14:39.899
    | text      = Prophecy says that these doorways are going to open. I think some of them are are associated with what the islamic nation
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    | text      = You were just showing joel richardson's book
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    | text      = I think some of it's associated with them because the euphrates river right where they're functioning is right out of the book of
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    | text      = Revelation where it says guess what the door is going to open portals are going to come up out of that
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    | text      = River and they're going to wipe out a third of humanity
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    | text      = So now the third of humanity goes back to our last uh apocalyptic bullshit
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    | text      = But like here here what we have is uh, this is literally what uh, sweary carrie cassidy talks about
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    | text      = How they like all of these wars throughout history have been like the iraq war vietnam. They weren't about actual
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    | text      = Geopolitical struggles they were about closing stargates. Yep. He doesn't use the term stargate. He talks like doorways portals
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    | text      = It's the exact same thing. These people are saying they're pitching the same narrative to different audiences. Yeah, it's fucking fascinating
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    | text      = it's also fascinating because
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    | text      = At no point do any of these people realize that so many of these are like
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    | text      = Regional fears. Yeah, you know like these guys have a reptilian with a halo over there
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    | text      = You got spider leadership over here. You got the the
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    | text      = Raptoids or whatever the fuck it is
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    | text      = Like all of this shit is just regional fears that you can clearly take back to oh
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    | text      = this culture got fucked up by spiders for a while like that was kind of the
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    | text      = That was the situation everybody had their own like we get fucked with a tarantula problem. Yeah. Yeah or
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    | text      = the different komodo dragon
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    | text      = Might be hard in some cultures
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    | text      = There's
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    | text      = Psyche yes down psyche. Yeah, or just the difference between
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    | text      = Japanese dragons and European dragons like just but it's the silly little things but then yeah
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    | text      = But then again, some of it is also like just intrinsic like in terms of lizards being sort of seen as evil
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    | text      = Yeah, make sense. They're so different from
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    | text      = Mammals. Yeah, you know there is a very like a very strong distrust of something that doesn't have legs like snakes
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    | text      = Yeah, rolling around. Oh, yeah. What is it? What are they even fucking doing? Where are they?
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    | timestamp = 01:16:45.920
    | text      = Where are their legs also they can kill you also like not all of them, but some of them can kill you
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    | text      = Yeah, but all the ones that don't kill you also still bite and are hostile
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    | text      = They they fucking look weird and some of them can constrict you
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    | text      = Oh, that's a bummer and generally speaking like lizards aren't good eating
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    | text      = So like there's no reason to really like them over history lizards and and reptiles are the greatest
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    | text      = possible like
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    | text      = You're bad. I'm gonna go with bugs. I'm gonna go with bugs. I go with birds Oh birds. You don't like birds too loud
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    | text      = Mean also
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    | text      = Yeah, what's a bird ever done for you, huh? Oh, what's a bird ever done for you? I like chicken but not much else
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    | text      = so I
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    | text      = Yeah, I would love to I would love myths to be based off of so many of the things that you find like is it good
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    | timestamp = 01:17:42.159
    | text      = What's what's the what's the myth? Uh, these birds are evil fucking loud as shit
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    | text      = Do you think a lot of myths are based on less?
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    | text      = No
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    | text      = so
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    | text      = Dude, what do you know about orbs?
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    | text      = I know anytime somebody asks me that question. The answer is not what I'm gonna say
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    | text      = Do you know about the phenomenon in the paranormal conspiracy community of people taking pictures and there being orbs in it?
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    | timestamp = 01:18:09.199
    | text      = I know about the song by the AAS named phenomenon. It's not that okay. Um, you don't know about this at all, which
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    | timestamp = 01:18:17.439
    | text      = So so orbs you go to haunted places
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    | text      = Orbs, you take pictures just or and then you get the pictures back and there's orbs in the picture and generally speaking
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    | text      = Most people can always be like, oh, well, this is failure of the camera or more often
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    | text      = It's like it's the flash reflecting on a piece of yeah
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    | text      = Yeah something along those lines, I'll tell you what
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    | text      = Chris Putnam not a big fan of the the reasonable explanations for orbs, but he is a big fan of fucking orbs
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    | text      = What's going on there?
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    | text      = Sedona is famous for being a
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    | text      = Portal area. In fact, there's actually one area called the Bradshaw ranch famous for by the way
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    | text      = You guys have already struck out a couple times on Arizona. I wouldn't just stop talking about it
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    | timestamp = 01:19:04.960
    | text      = Go back to the well, so why don't you go to skinwalker ranch Punk? You too scared?
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    | timestamp = 01:19:09.039
    | text      = What you got to go to Bradshaw ranch week?
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    | text      = Named after a famous stuntman Bradshaw. I was in a lot of the old Western. Oh sure
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    | text      = He's also made of orbs to tour that but mysteriously the government bought all that land and fenced it off
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    | timestamp = 01:19:23.279
    | text      = Supposedly is national park land, but now you can't even enter it
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    | timestamp = 01:19:27.079
    | text      = Okay, and it's it's famous in the UFO community as an area where you can see UFOs
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    | timestamp = 01:19:32.880
    | text      = It's famous in the ghost hunting paranormal community is a place where you see orbs now
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    | timestamp = 01:19:38.859
    | text      = Everyone is seeing something unidentified in the sky. So UFO. I don't have much problem believing that people see things
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    | text      = They can't identify what orbs I always thought that those were probably just camera anomalies
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    | text      = They are you know dust particles and things like that that just kind of you know
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    | text      = Just some sort of anomaly with the camera reflection inside the top right there you nailed
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    | text      = So I took a professional photographer with me and we set up two cameras from different angles and we actually did get orbs on
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    | text      = film
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    | timestamp = 01:20:06.239
    | text      = With two cameras at the same time, so it's not dust particles not something on the camera lens
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    | timestamp = 01:20:11.279
    | text      = What that doesn't actually prove anything?
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    | timestamp = 01:20:13.960
    | text      = No, because if they're shooting in the same direction and there's something that might reflect or
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:21.520
    | text      = Refract light from their flash and they're shooting from two angles. It would do the exact same thing on both cameras also
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    | text      = So so he before this before he took a professional photographer out right to care
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    | text      = Oh, and they're always using flash. I should be clear because it's at night. Well, yeah, so it's not the only way you can find orbs
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    | timestamp = 01:20:41.079
    | text      = It's not like I'm assuming that they're using flash or they don't come out and flash orbs only come out at night
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    | timestamp = 01:20:48.199
    | text      = So so that means that orbs are man-eaters so he knew so here's here's by my issue with this
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    | text      = He knew about orbs as a thing. Yeah, and he always thought that they were
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    | text      = Something wrong with the camera. Yep, which means that he knew that there were a lot of pictures of orbs
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    | text      = Oh, yeah, and and he's he's presenting it as like I thought it was bullshit before so which is what all con men do
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    | text      = So if I understand correctly the way that he debunks this or the way that he set out to debunk it to cameras
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    | text      = Was to use two cameras
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    | text      = So there were hundreds of cameras
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    | text      = No one had ever thought to do that upon thousands of cameras in the past that have found these orbs and he was like ah
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    | text      = but
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    | text      = Fake, but if I use two cameras, well, then I know they're I know how to do a double-blind study. There you go
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    | text      = Two cameras solved it light is both a particle and a wave Dan right orbs. So that's just to illustrate like this guy's not
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    | text      = He's just very gullible and and just not gullible. He just wants to push something on gullible people
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    | text      = When are they gonna sell stuff? Cuz they dude gotta be around the corner
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    | text      = I should I should come clean a little bit because there's so much here
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    | text      = Um, I cut out a lot of the ads. Okay, mostly because it's all just that water bottle man
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    | text      = Yeah, he's pushing that water bottle hard and it's all these packages of the water bottle and Tom's book
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    | text      = but okay, I was gonna say Tom Horan and
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    | text      = Putnam aren't they gonna eventually get to the part where we we all get to see like oh you're selling
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    | text      = I cut out some of the we're selling your book stuff because to me honestly like that is in the realm of
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    | text      = of respectable behavior it's assumed
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | text      = The idea that these guys are coming on his show and plugging the book that doesn't seem like gross
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    | text      = Salesmanship to me like even people who come on like Sam Seder's show who have a book
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    | text      = Yeah, you give a little plug to the book
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    | text      = Hey you go on you go on a late night and you you sell your fucking movie the way that's fine the way they're
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    | text      = Packaging it with the water bottles is a little weird
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    | text      = But because we've danced all over that water bottle for the last two Jim Baker episodes a lot of water ball
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    | text      = I felt like it was like there's so much meat here. Let's not jump into that
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    | text      = Although I will say we learned that the water bottle he's been burying the lead on this. Yeah
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    | text      = It's not just for drinking river water. Oh, it also apparently
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    | text      = Alkalizes your water. I did not know that he's not brought that up
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    | text      = I've always needed my water alkalized it PA it brings the pH up sure, which I should say
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    | text      = Be careful with that
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    | text      = Like I understand the idea that people think acid bad base good or something like that or but if you do too much
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    | text      = Trying to bring up either direction. Yeah. Yeah, it's very it's very dangerous. Not good
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    | text      = No, that's not to say drinking alkalized water, isn't it?
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    | text      = Like that alone is dangerous, but go too far with it. It can really fucking hurt. You know, it's crazy those water bottles
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    | text      = Turn the frogs gay. That's what they do. That's what they've done a long time
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    | text      = frogs a long time so long silent and giggling co-host Laurie Baker now comes in
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    | text      = With a story doesn't just giggle. She also says Wow
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    | text      = Wow Wow
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    | text      = So she comes in with a story and this this is kind of fun
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    | text      = Because it gives us a little bit of flavor of what Laurie is like
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    | text      = Okay, but then it gives us a bigger picture into what Jim is like as a husband
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    | text      = Oh, I'm not gonna like based on his reaction at the end of this story. Oh, he's gonna hit somebody
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    | text      = I actually live in that area down at the bottom of that mountain near Safford, Arizona for a
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    | text      = Time I actually lived in the Four Corner area for a time another one of the portal areas
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    | text      = I have spent a
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    | text      = Like a second home Sedona and Oak Creek Canyon
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    | text      = So I'm like wow, this is blowing my mind thinking that these are these
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    | text      = portals and I
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    | text      = Have had so many
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    | text      = incredible
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    | text      = Supernatural experiences with the Lord with the Holy Spirit if I told you them some of you would probably turn the TV off and go
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    | text      = There is no way but I'm telling you you should probably turn the TV off after saying that but I've also seen the demonic side
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    | text      = supernatural so I
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    | text      = Know I know that the supernatural world is more real than us really sitting here. I don't know how to explain that in
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    | text      = Words, but as real as you're here right here, honey, and I'm touching you the supernatural world
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    | text      = I mean we have angels surrounding us all around us
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    | text      = It's exciting
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    | text      = We're in the final stage of
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    | text      = The last days I believe we're I really did what the hell man
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    | text      = No wife your wife just told a story about seeing demons and angels
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    | text      = right, and then you give a pause where everyone's like
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    | text      = And then you launch off on your new thought
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    | text      = Yeah, that's the verbal equivalent of being like slap I'm not interested in your story Laurie
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    | text      = Where there's angels all around us right now
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    | text      = All right, we're in the final stages of the end times everybody to ignore that
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    | text      = Bullshit the problem that I have is that like her story isn't out of line with the stuff. They talk about no
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    | text      = It's right on it's not like that story is in any way like why did she say that?
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    | text      = Very much like oh, yeah, that's that's part of this yeah, so the whole thing she sees angels she sees demons
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    | text      = They're all around us right now. They're more real than you and me
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    | text      = This is something that everybody has literally said in this fucking show yeah, and Baker is just like
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    | text      = Hey, fuck off. Yeah, I don't want to engage
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    | text      = Heard it before Laurie. We're not changing the channel
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    | text      = Why did I marry you?
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    | text      = There is a there's a sense that maybe this is a little bit one-sided. You know what I'm saying
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    | text      = Oh, it's and she calls him honey, and yeah, what have you and he's just he's a fucking psychopath though like of course
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    | text      = He doesn't care about her man wait till we get to the end of this you're gonna see some real
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    | text      = Disconnect in his brain okay like he's it he
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    | text      = Psychopath is not accurate. Maybe but definitely he doesn't have feelings, okay?
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    | text      = But before we get to that
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    | text      = Tom Horne comes in and he says something he talks for about 30 seconds
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    | text      = And it teaches me that he knows or he's super into a couple things
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    | text      = I don't think he should be
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    | text      = Well and the Watchers who fell down Peter and Jude both described them as being contained under the surface of the earth again
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    | text      = We're talking about the earth is much more dynamic than people understand much more connected to prophecy
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    | text      = And they are under the surface of the earth waiting for the day of judgment now
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    | text      = There is an extra biblical book. It's actually in some
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    | text      = Orthodox versions of the Bible is called the book of Enoch stop
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    | text      = Certainly was read by the disciples as quoted by the disciples actually in the New Testament stop it. It's only in two
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    | text      = Coptic
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    | text      = Orthodox churches canons, but so the first thing is hollow earth. He's very clearly talking about hollow earth
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    | text      = That's where the demons are and then also the book of Enoch
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    | text      = He's into those two things, and I don't think that's great. I'll be honest with you. I don't think it's that great I
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    | text      = think
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    | text      = Like what's not great about it well one hollow earth is it's fun to think about but if you believe it
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    | text      = You're you're out there. Hey come on, man. You're not a serious. You're not a serious you a bit
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    | timestamp = 01:28:23.539
    | text      = You're not a serious thinker sixth president of the United States huge hollow earth guy, but when was that?
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    | text      = Couple years ago, yeah
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    | text      = What is it that much different from what our president believes now like
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    | timestamp = 01:28:38.939
    | text      = Everybody's crazy. No these people are fucking stupid. This is dumb. This is shock
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    | text      = it that's what I'm what I'm hearing from this is
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    | text      = if you are listening to this, and you're like I
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    | text      = Want to buy this guy's water bottle you're fucking dumb
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    | text      = It's this is dumb or or you're
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    | text      = Suggestible there's there's I don't know there's other ways to get there other than dumb
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    | text      = I think I think I don't know ah you could be born this takes a lot of dumb
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    | timestamp = 01:29:09.180
    | text      = You could be born into some negative circumstances. Maybe you live in a small town. There's no way out, and you just sort of accept that
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    | timestamp = 01:29:17.060
    | text      = Sort of thing. I don't know. I don't think necessarily dumb comes into it. I feel like dumb is so judgmental
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    | text      = Yeah, I agree. That's why I'm using that word. They're victims
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    | text      = That just cuz you're dumb doesn't mean you can't be a victim and just cuz you're a victim doesn't mean you're dumb
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    | timestamp = 01:29:32.140
    | text      = No, but I also don't want to I don't want to or doesn't mean you're not dumb
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    | text      = I don't want to impugn the the people who are caught up in the hustle
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    | text      = I do when we are talking about the hustler right right? I understand that that's a that's a wish better for them
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    | text      = Yeah, no, that's true. It's
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    | text      = But at the same time god damn it. That's dumb
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    | text      = It is not least of which because and this is again something that we've talked about
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    | text      = I want to be taken in if I'm gonna be taken in by a con man
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    | text      = I want to be taken in by a top-level con men these guys are taking in the dumb
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    | timestamp = 01:30:03.779
    | text      = But also they're just taking advantage of other people's circumstances that they don't have any control over but because of those circumstances
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    | text      = It's possible that he is a good con man for them
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    | text      = You know what I'm saying?
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    | text      = Like some of the things that he's hitting on might trigger things and other people that it doesn't trigger in us true
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    | text      = So, you know the all I'm trying to say and I don't want this to be some sort of weird
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    | timestamp = 01:30:28.939
    | text      = Everything is relative kind of argument right some things are fairly relative
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    | text      = Yeah, and a good con man to you is not the same thing as a good man con man to someone in I don't know
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    | timestamp = 01:30:41.100
    | text      = Avaz, Missouri, you know like tiny town of Missouri, you know, who knows I say Avaz because they used to go there when I was a
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    | timestamp = 01:30:47.899
    | text      = Kid, right? There was a lot of portal activity there so much so much portal
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    | text      = I so we get back to the book of Enoch part. I don't think I made it clear
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    | text      = Necessarily my why it's bad to be like super into the book of Enoch
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    | text      = Yeah, I'll get to it a little bit after this clip
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    | text      = He then though goes on to say this Enoch says when it's going to happen. He says it's going to happen 70
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    | text      = Generations after the flood so if you know when the flood occurred and what is the generation?
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    | text      = Well the generation based on Psalms 90 10 is 70 years
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    | text      = So you would literally say if I could go if I knew when the flood happened I could go 70
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    | timestamp = 01:31:24.640
    | text      = Generations of 70 years which is 4,900 years, right? Good call
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    | text      = Well the most the the most recent statistics, in fact, there's scientific groups are working on this are called the Holocene impact
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    | text      = Because they think a meteor hit the earth and that's what caused the flood because they have evidence of a great flood
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    | timestamp = 01:31:42.600
    | text      = They date this to 4,800 to 4,900. They date this to 2,800 to 2,900 BC
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:31:48.720
    | text      = What am I saying all these numbers for bottom line is if that is when the flood happened you count 4,900 years
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    | text      = Later it brings you to 2015 2016 2017
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    | text      = It brings you to right now when Enoch says those gates are going to open and the Giants are going to come out now
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    | timestamp = 01:32:07.920
    | text      = You're going so fast our heads are spinning so
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    | text      = that's
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    | text      = All right
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    | timestamp = 01:32:15.199
    | text      = Whatever. I don't think the Holocene impact group is a reputable group of scientists. I've been able to glean
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    | text      = so if we say that 2,800 BC was when the flood happened if we if we
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    | text      = stipulate that in the argument just say whatever
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    | timestamp = 01:32:31.760
    | text      = This doesn't this is tough to work out with the book of Enoch
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    | timestamp = 01:32:36.479
    | text      = Because Enoch was Noah's great-grandfather according to the Bible
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    | timestamp = 01:32:40.520
    | text      = yeah, and so you use the 70 generate 70 year generations if
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    | timestamp = 01:32:45.760
    | text      = 2800 BC was BCE was when the flood happened three generations pack or four generations back would be around
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    | timestamp = 01:32:54.239
    | text      = 3,000 BC was when Enoch would have been around. Yeah, but the problem is
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    | timestamp = 01:32:59.439
    | text      = Book of Enoch's oldest parts were written in 300 BC
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    | text      = Right, and then the most recent parts of them are dated to about 100 BC, right? So when the flood happened, no
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    | text      = I don't I don't think that anyone makes the argument that Enoch wrote the book of Enoch, right?
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    | text      = It was in the Enoch. Well, that would be gauche, but it's in the Enochian tradition
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    | text      = You don't write you don't name the book you write after yourself. That would be that would be very huge
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    | text      = narcissistic very
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    | text      = idealistically the rest of the Bible
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    | text      = I'm not gonna write a book called
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    | text      = Jordan why not I because I would I would wait until somebody else wrote a book about me called Jordan. Come on
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    | text      = Hey these sorts of ideas of modesty or modern. I don't want to write a book Dan
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    | text      = I want to live a life people want to write books about sure and that's fine
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    | text      = Thanks, thank you, but I also think I think it's Jim Baker
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    | text      = I think it's fine for the Enoch thing because it's like well
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    | text      = yes, if Enoch had written the book of Enoch, then that would be a
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    | text      = severe
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    | text      = Severe problem that the timeline of when he would have been alive is impossible for when the book was written
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    | text      = The other problem is that he's only really referenced in a couple books in the Bible only a couple times, right?
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    | text      = There's maybe like three or four references to Enoch one being that he was along with
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    | text      = He's one of two people who ever didn't die like God brought him up to heaven yeah
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    | text      = Yeah, Elijah is the other one. Yeah, two people who have never died or Elijah and Enoch
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    | text      = That's I believe that's in Genesis. There's a reference to him in Jude
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    | text      = but
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    | text      = Hey, Jude, hey
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    | text      = Hey, Jordan
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    | text      = There's no reference to him in
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    | text      = Parts of the Noah story the story of the flood the deluge
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    | text      = There's no seems like he would talk about his great-grandpa at least once or twice. It was his great-grandfather
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    | text      = Predicted the flood it would seem incredibly relevant
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    | text      = But those stories of Noah and the flood were written before the book of Enoch, right?
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    | text      = So that's why those aren't in that book. Well, they were also written before the book that
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    | text      = Told about the flood like the flood myth has been around for yeah
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    | text      = Yeah, let's move. Let's move past that
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    | text      = I'm saying that this this piece of the mythology would have been present in so many other places
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    | text      = Yeah, if it were some part that wasn't
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    | text      = Pseudepigrapha something that was added through a pseudonym much later. Yeah, the Enoch book is
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    | text      = Interesting. I like it. I think there's a lot of really interesting content. Yeah. Yeah, but my favorite part was when
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    | text      = Hermione cast the spell in Enoch and
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    | text      = Turned him into a frog for a while, right? So is that it something something Snape?
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    | text      = Oh
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    | text      = There's um, that is the best name to a sequel
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    | text      = Yeah, something something Snape and the something something Snape and the blue
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    | text      = I'm liking that yada yada yada and the golden Snape or whatever
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    | text      = There's a there's a reason that it's not
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    | text      = Included in the can or the Bible and that's something weird for me to say as someone who really doesn't give a shit and thinks
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    | text      = There's weird stuff in the Bible. There's plenty of reason just based on like biblical scholarship
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    | text      = Yeah, look at the times that it was written fact that it was written over the course of like 200 years
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    | text      = difference between the big like the oldest parts and the newest parts fact that it comes from
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    | text      = Traditions that are outside of what's deemed mainstream Christianity
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    | text      = I get it in the fact that he is bringing this in is like a like a strong primary source
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    | text      = It means to me that he doesn't care about like actual biblical scholarship. Yeah, he cares about like, oh, this is fun
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    | text      = This this sort of weaves into my already existing belief, but that's the way that they treat science as well
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's the way that they treat everything trying to create that web. No, I'm no you're helping
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    | text      = I'm trying to god damn it. You're helping your somehow you're frustrated with running a two-man game Dan. I'm not frustrated by it
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    | text      = It's just I don't know there's parts of me that think like maybe I should make this less obvious what I'm saying
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    | text      = Yeah, and then you come in you're like, it's the exact same thing that they do with everything
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    | text      = I'm trying to my job is to make it as
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    | text      = Obvious as possible. Yeah, that's a fair point. That's what I do
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    | text      = Jesus I just I just hate I hate so much how these assholes spend all of their time
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    | text      = Demonizing scientists who are running CERN right trying to figure out how fucking matter works
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    | text      = Mr. And then you know and the moment they're like, oh
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    | text      = and as far as
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    | text      = Giants and portals go there's a group of scientists who look you don't you can't trust all the other scientists
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    | text      = But these guys confirm what you already know using science
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    | text      = So now whenever somebody disagrees with you with their science guess what you have your own science now the the fake science that you have
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    | text      = Has no backing in it at all. There's no double-blind studies. No, you're reviewing. There's two cameras though
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    | text      = But if we got them or we got to court we had no about orbs. Yeah
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    | text      = When was the last time certain talked about orbs? Yeah, get them. Yeah. I actually know a guy who worked at CERN. Yeah
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    | text      = Yeah, weird. I actually know a guy made of orbs interesting. Yeah, is it? What was that game specter?
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    | text      = No, what was it? There's a there's a Genesis game. Where's a guy made of balls? Who cares?
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    | text      = Oh, no, I actually know what yeah. Yeah now I know what you're talking about. I can't remember the name of it
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    | text      = ball man, um
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    | text      = No, it was weird this guy when I used to run a comedy show this guy used to come out to it every week
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    | text      = But he'd show up late and we had a dance party afterwards
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    | text      = I like after the comedy show he'd show up late and then he was kind of like probably like a mid late 50s year old guy
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    | text      = Kept to himself. He'd show up for like the last 20 minutes of the show and then dance like crazy
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    | text      = Love it
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    | text      = and so I was very confused by him and I couldn't figure out like what the fuck is going on with this guy and
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    | text      = so
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    | text      = Around that time Mike Timlin very funny comedian. Yes, Mike Timlin
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    | text      = He became one of our interns at that point. I was like the first night I grabbed him. I was like Timlin
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    | text      = Your first job is to find out what that guy's deal is right because I want to ask him and I fucking can't I can't
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    | text      = Emotionally do it and I just need to know why he's here cuz I he's not threatening
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    | text      = He wasn't dancing and grabbing on people, right? He wasn't a problem, but he confused the shit out of me
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    | text      = This is the first known abuse of an intern at no very first one it worked first time an intern has ever been abused like
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    | text      = This so at the end of the night Timlin comes over to me. He's like Dan. I talked to him and turns out
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    | text      = He works at the Hadron Collider CERN. He's Swiss
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    | text      = He's on vacation and he's doing he's here for a season in Chicago
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    | text      = He's a long vacation and he loves yoga
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    | text      = So he's late because he goes to yoga class but likes to dance and also likes the show
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    | text      = He wishes he could come on time, but yoga class is more important
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    | text      = There's a lot there's a lot going on with that guy's life, but I was also like Timlin
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    | text      = You are the best intern ever you got all of the information that you've ever wanted. I started talking to him
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    | text      = He's a super nice guy
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    | text      = We never really clicked but the headline you and Timlin or no
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    | text      = I mean Timlin clicked great, but not the certain guy not the certain guy
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    | text      = So the headliner on that show was or maybe I don't remember if it was that show or a couple weeks later
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    | text      = Shawn Flannery headline very comic here in Chicago. Fantastic. Amazing storyteller. Brilliant. Amazing.
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    | text      = So he headlined the show and afterwards he and this guy who worked at CERN
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    | text      = ended up at the bar next to each other and became
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    | text      = fast friends and the guy who worked at CERN ended up doing the blackout diaries
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    | text      = That's awesome. That's crazy. The two of them kept in touch. That's amazing. That's fantastic. He was a super nice guy
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    | text      = so
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    | text      = The only story I have with CERN the only story I have that relates to that is a there is a karaoke bar
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    | text      = a tiki themed karaoke bar
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    | text      = Is it on Belmont? No, no, no, it's off of
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    | text      = No, no, there's too many tiki themed karaoke bars. I think it's on Lincoln and
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    | text      = There is this guy who comes dressed in scrubs
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    | text      = Which makes you think he comes directly from the hospital or whatever
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    | text      = Come on. Ah, all right. You want me to get away with that? All right
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    | text      = But he fucking he sings every third song he goes hard this dude his entire life is
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    | text      = Wearing scrubs and singing these songs and I've always wanted to ask him whether or not he actually worked at a hospital
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    | text      = Or if it was just sort of it was just yeah, I've never I never had the courage
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    | text      = He was tiny that's why you need Timlin. He was like five foot four if I had an intern
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    | text      = I would know everything about that guy. It was the best tiny little man best having Timlin to go ask people questions
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    | text      = I couldn't ask we needed Timlin. Oh god. Oh Jesus. I'll get back into stand-up so I could get an intern for this show
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    | text      = Yes, holy shit not gonna do it bless you by the way, you know, I'm like, you know, I can't do it
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    | text      = No, I can't I can't convince an intern to help us out. So this has been fun
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    | text      = This has been the Dan and Jordan talk about stuff not related strictly speaking to the episode now. Let's jump back in
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    | text      = Okay, Jordan
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    | text      = I texted you and I told you before the show that I have a damning piece of information an
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    | text      = incredibly damning piece of information that
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    | text      = Indicates to me that Jim Baker and Tom Horne have not in any way wrestled with
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    | text      = What the Bible is right what its cultural historical context is. It's a book. They know that's from the past
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    | timestamp = 01:43:02.260
    | text      = so Tom Horne is on here and he's hawking of his
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    | text      = translation of the seppuku
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    | text      = Sepuagint the you know, you know that is no
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    | text      = Jesus man, what the hell so what it is is it's you mocked me for making you you
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    | text      = You condescended to me for calling people dumb and now you're gonna call me dumb like that. I'm not gonna call you dumb
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    | text      = I just hope you notice I explained it ahead of time. All right, it's a it's the earliest
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    | text      = Greek translation of like the Pentateuch or the the yeah
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    | text      = Yeah, okay the first five books of the Testament and then it added in over time
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    | text      = it was something that was worked on for years and added in a bunch of like
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    | text      = a profit books sure and what are called Deuteronomy due to Deuteronomy old books?
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah sort of second those I got so he's he's selling a
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    | text      = Translation into English of the Septuagint, right and I pronounce that terribly and I don't worry about it
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    | text      = It's weird. There's too many vowels in places. You don't expect it. It's fine. They say something
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    | text      = here that is deeply
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    | text      = deeply
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    | text      = Deeply flawed so he wrote fanfiction. No, huh?
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    | text      = I believe that his translation is probably actually accurate from the Greek of that. Okay, I would believe that I'm not sure
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    | text      = I haven't read it. I haven't checked it. I'm gonna go with fanfic
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    | text      = I'm gonna say it's not a great translation. I bet it's fine. Okay, but
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    | text      = In this clip Jim Baker says something in response to him talking about this Septuagint
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    | text      = and then
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    | text      = Something weird happens. So this would be that the the Bible that the disciples would have been
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    | text      = reading from and
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    | text      = Jesus, you know, this is red. We have the word but he would have read from John
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    | text      = We're out of fun for Laurie's house again, and it we're just eking it out
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    | text      = We have like two weeks and we can open the house. I mean two weeks
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    | text      = Well, I mean, it's not gonna be open, but we're gonna we're gonna have permit from the fire marshal
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    | text      = Yes to go in right in two weeks. All right, if we finish a few more things
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    | text      = Yeah, I gotta get some water faucets on too as well. We need about two really two hundred thousand to finish it all
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    | text      = It's so weird, it's so weird to have an entire episode where they discuss the reality of portals and
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    | text      = Reptiles with halos and then they're like once the fire marshal gives us the permit
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    | text      = I have the tubs in, we just need faucets. I need two hundred thousand dollars. Two hundred grand for faucets. And that ad pivot was hard
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    | text      = That was hard. So much that you missed the turn over you yelling. Yeah, I think it'll still come up in the audio
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    | text      = But like he was like he's talking about the Septuagint. Yeah, he's talking about this is what the disciples read
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    | text      = Yeah, and then Laurie is like isn't that amazing? Listen. Yeah, listen. I know
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    | text      = That's that's what I was saying. Well, because he was just telling her to shut the fuck up
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    | text      = Well, because his old ass mind is so like oh, I've got on the thought that I need to sell. Yeah, shut up woman
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    | text      = Yeah, we need to sell. I need to make that house that's named after you
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    | text      = crazy, so
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    | text      = The the ad pivot aside and we'll get to in the next clip. We'll get into like this being incredibly fucked up, right?
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    | text      = This is the Bible. This is where we're talking about the Bible that Jesus would have read. So Jim and Tom are both
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    | text      = Suggesting that the Septuagint is the is like some sort of different scripture or pure scripture
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    | text      = And if they're saying that it's the one that the Apostles read it's the pre Bible Bible
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    | text      = This is a deeply flawed idea
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    | text      = The biggest problem is that most of if not all of Jesus's disciples were illiterate
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    | text      = Professor of theology at the University of London Catherine Hessler estimates the literacy rate at the time an area when the Apostles were alive
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    | text      = Would have been approximately 3% almost entirely made up of what you'd call the cultural elite the priests and academics of the day
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    | text      = Yeah of which the disciples were definitely not
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    | text      = specifically and purposefully not you had Andrew Peter James and John who were all fishermen who would
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    | text      = 100% not know how to read or were fisher of men
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    | text      = Well, that's why that metaphor is used because most of his disciples were fucking fishermen because in Galilee that a very vibrant
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    | text      = fishing economy
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    | text      = It's crazy
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    | text      = There were some indications that Judas was previously a thief which doesn't require education
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    | text      = Matthew was a tax collector, but that position was actually what it entailed in its proper historical context is less
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    | text      = Someone who audits spreadsheets or does accounting is more someone who literally takes coins from people and delivers them to someone else
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    | text      = More of a courier or even just someone who sits at a booth when people come and bring them money as he's described to be
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    | text      = in Matthew 9
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    | text      = Simon is described as a zealot which likely means that he was a political agitator against the Roman government
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    | text      = Which is more of a rabble-rousing kind of thing compared to political activists that we're used to today
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    | text      = Most of whom know how to read back then. It was more just like a
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    | text      = I'm gonna throw a rock
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    | text      = The rest of them were likely fishermen, but it's unspecific for a bunch of the dudes in Jesus's posse
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    | text      = The assumption is fairly safe though as the Bible describes Thomas and Bartholomew
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    | text      = Had being caught off-guard fishing at some point and like I said Galilee was a major fishing port back
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    | text      = there was a big piece of the economy and
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    | text      = The idea of that like one of the most famous scriptures and the famous sayings of Jesus is I will make you fishers of men
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    | text      = Doesn't really make sense unless you're talking to a bunch of fish guys
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    | text      = Yeah, and that is the that is the profession for most of his they would not have known how to read
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    | text      = They knew how to tie knots though, Dan, and that's all you needed
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    | text      = So the idea that Jim Baker is selling this and Tom Horne is selling this
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    | text      = Septuagint as being what the Apostles would have read is fucking horseshit
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    | text      = They don't know how to read they didn't know how to write and a lot of people might be saying well
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    | text      = How did they write the books that are ascribed to them? They did well
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    | text      = If you take that to its next logical conclusion
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    | text      = They didn't write those books except for and it wasn't and not any of the synoptic Gospels
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    | text      = But Paul was almost certain. Yeah, I believe I believe Saul or Paul Paul was
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    | text      = But some of the letters that are ascribed to Paul definitely he didn't write right even along the lines of like all of the
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    | text      = Everything in the Bible wasn't written by the person that they say it was almost across the board
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    | text      = fantastically
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    | text      = Jesus most people believe to be either a rabbi or or the like a
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    | text      = a you know
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    | text      = Misrepresentation of a writer he was most likely able to read well, it's possible. There's actually two
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    | text      = There's two main culprits. I believe in terms of like historical Jesus
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    | text      = I don't I haven't looked into this in a long time
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    | text      = This is based on drunk conversations with I had I had with like professors who my friends my dad's friends with yeah
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    | text      = Yeah, so like from my understanding what most biblical scholars
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    | text      = Believe is that there are conflations of who Jesus was. Yeah, and that the Jesus who got
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    | text      = Crucified is not the same Jesus who said all the sayings that are really popular
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    | text      = Right, the Jesus who said all the sayings was a rabbi around that time. Yeah mentioned in like Josephus
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    | text      = Who was absolutely literate because yeah part of the priest class. Yeah, of course now the Jesus who got crucified
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    | text      = around that time was a
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    | text      = Criminal named Jesus and throughout time those two personas have been blended into one now
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    | text      = I don't know if that's totally true. That's just something that I that's something that it was passed on to me by professors
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    | timestamp = 01:51:01.819
    | text      = Could be wrong. They also weren't saying that's a hundred percent the truth
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    | text      = that's just what indications are because what most people historical record around then of
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    | text      = That would match what's said in the Bible is thin
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | text      = It's not there isn't a ton that
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    | text      = Matches up so you have to sort of make piecemeal out of it in the same way that if you're reading the Dead Sea Scrolls
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    | text      = You got to fill in gaps
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | text      = And scholars know how to do that much better than dumbass Tim Horne and if you're if you're writing a book about a guy
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    | timestamp = 01:51:29.939
    | text      = Several hundred years after he was already dead. You just start picking and choosing what you want. Yeah. Well, I mean Tom Horne does
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    | timestamp = 01:51:36.739
    | text      = Yeah, so now important more importantly I think I mean the biggest thing I want to say is that the fact that
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    | text      = Fucking none of these dudes are being like the Apostles couldn't read, you know
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    | text      = Like that's just a truth of you would never you would never accept that
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    | text      = so many modern Christians today would never ever accept that the Apostles weren't anything other than the
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    | text      = Exemplary human beings of the day. Yeah
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    | text      = Yeah, we could how could because we believe that literacy is the norm
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    | text      = How could they write those letters Dan if they didn't know how to read huh?
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    | text      = What is it? Just a bunch of X's everybody knows all those red
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    | text      = Oh, they are the epistles were written by all the Apostles at the time that makes sense. Oh, it makes sense
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    | text      = Epistle apostle call it a day. No. No you say epistle
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    | text      = I say apostle call the whole thing off the the thing the thing of like
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    | text      = actual
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    | text      = Writership and stuff like that is all
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    | text      = Sort of none of them none of them wrote any of that juggling balls
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    | text      = Yeah, but like I said while you were on that riff, you know
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    | text      = Like the epistle apostle riff that one, okay
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    | text      = We assume that literacy is so common now that it must have always been right and it's not and also it's not now everywhere
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    | text      = but
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    | text      = The sept the septuagint is nothing special. He's selling it as if it's like a purer version of Scripture. It's the original Bible
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    | timestamp = 01:53:01.220
    | text      = It's what the Apostles would have read. It's a hipsters, but I say that over and over and over again
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    | text      = It is nothing special at all. All it is is a name given to the translation of the Pentateuch
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    | text      = Or the Torah which later grew to include many of the rest of what would be the Old Testament
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    | timestamp = 01:53:16.779
    | text      = Like Joshua judges Ruth and the like it also contained books that we later sent to the pseudepigrapha like Tobit and first through fourth Maccabees
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    | text      = The septuagint is nothing special really
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    | text      = It's just a collection and translation of already existing religious texts and writings
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    | timestamp = 01:53:31.939
    | text      = That was the result of a project started in approximately 300 BCE
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    | text      = That's concluded around 132 BCE. The name is derived from a story of how it came into being
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    | text      = Allegedly Ptolemy of Egypt requested 72 rabbis
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    | text      = Translate their texts for him into Greek from the original Hebrew so he could have a copy in the library of Alexandria
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    | text      = Magically because God each of these 72 working independently created identical copies of the translation
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    | text      = This story is generally thought by scholars to be bullshit
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    | text      = Because it traces back to the letter of Aristeas
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    | text      = Which due to dating of styles and textural clues almost certainly could not have been written by the person that claims to be written by
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    | text      = Princeton Theological Seminary professor Bruce Metzger described the letter thus quote
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    | text      = Most scholars who have analyzed the letter have included that the author cannot have been the man he represented himself to be
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    | text      = But was a Jew who wrote a fictitious account in order to enhance the importance of the Hebrew scriptures by
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    | text      = Suggesting that a pagan king had recognized their significance and therefore arranged for their translation into Greek
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    | text      = So yeah most
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    | text      = View the letter of Aristeas which has the kernel the beginning of the story of the septuagint
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    | text      = As being one of the early examples of religious propaganda. Yeah, so that's fun, too
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    | text      = Hey guys all this is fun. You're you're con men
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:54:53.399
    | text      = They are con and based on the cons from way back when but the cons back then make more sense
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    | text      = I think a little bit
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    | text      = Really you don't think so what cons a con man. Yeah, what do you mean? They make more sense?
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    | text      = I don't know cons a con. They're clearly much more successful
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:11.220
    | text      = It's much more. It's interesting though. They're harder to see through uh
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    | text      = I mean, I think that's distance right like isn't it easier to see through Scientology than it is to see through Christianity
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    | text      = Yeah, it's just cuz it's old it requires scholars, and yeah people who understand context telling
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    | text      = Scientology you're just like well, that's fucking stupid. What are you talking about aliens drove b20 b52 bombers?
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    | text      = You're fucking stupid. Yeah, or how easy it is to see through Jim Baker as opposed to some religious figure even in
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    | text      = 1700s yeah, so
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    | text      = Jordan it is it's just interesting it really is to know that this con has been going on for
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    | timestamp = 01:55:54.840
    | text      = Thousands of years, it's the same fucking con well
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    | text      = Did why why have people have different angles on it back then and also now right?
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    | timestamp = 01:56:02.600
    | text      = There's various cons being played sort of it's a con that's evolved, but ultimately what it is is. It's a short circuit of
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    | timestamp = 01:56:11.039
    | text      = The human brain right there is something that the human brain simply cannot get past and that's why this con works
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | text      = So you you see so many people getting conned in the same way and you can take comfort in the fact that people like this
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    | text      = Have been getting conned since the birth of humanity and the con always ends up being about money
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    | text      = It always or it could also be about sex
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    | text      = That's also true a lot of cons are about banging. Yeah, there's some money in that too. I think somehow
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    | text      = But be the cache a if you will maybe I don't know look putting that aside at the end of the last clip before we got
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    | text      = Off on that Jim doesn't understand that the Apostles were illiterate and yet the Septuagint is really
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    | text      = He said that they need
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    | text      = 200,000 more dollars to open Lori's how to put those sinks in he made that harsh and fire
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    | timestamp = 01:57:02.439
    | text      = Marshall won't even give them the go-ahead without those
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    | text      = $200,000 sinks and now that makes it that much weirder that he says this he gets he starts preaching
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    | text      = Towards the end of this this stretch. This is really fucked up. What can can you do that?
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    | text      = You just talked about aliens portals
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    | text      = Demon reptiles and then you're gonna try and preach now, but but it's more like all that stuff put aside
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    | text      = It's more important that very recently a couple minutes earlier on the show. He was asking for
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    | text      = $200,000 to finish Lori's okay here. We go the Sun and the moon is gonna be darkened
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    | text      = yeah, we are here now folks and
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    | text      = You must get this book to you must get the path of the immortals
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    | text      = Why this is for any inquiring mind anybody who really wants to dig in and this is Bible backing up?
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    | text      = You say I don't believe all that stuff. Well
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    | text      = Find out read the Bible find it. See if it's in the Bible the portals, you know, we got to start
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    | text      = Start stopping. We got to stop
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    | text      = Letting people in the pulpit tell us what is right and what is wrong and what is
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    | text      = Because we have a whole generation that loves money more than anything else
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    | text      = Literally we have in the church in the last several decades we have become
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    | text      = lovers of money and the Bible says that neighbors the root of all evil is
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    | text      = The love of money and so we have changed the Word of God. We have another gospel today and
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    | text      = The real gospel nobody really wants it because it says come and die
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    | text      = That's a that's a rough start right there, right?
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    | text      = That is the most that is if you are not going to say this as soon as I am that is the most
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    | text      = Alex-jonesian thing that he could ever have done it is immediately. That wasn't what I was gonna say immediately
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    | text      = First thing he says right you can't trust anybody unless you go verify it in the Bible now
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    | text      = Of course, I'm telling you it so you don't need to go check it
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    | text      = I've already and in fact multiple times on this episode said things that are
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    | text      = Ludicrous biblically and in and because I said them and then because I told you to go check whether or not I said them
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    | text      = You can trust that I am confident that you will go check what I say
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    | text      = So you don't even need to go check what I say because we both know that you already checked what I say
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    | text      = Even though you didn't need to that's the maybe second thing I would point out about that clip
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    | text      = Then we get to the money part. That's crazy. The money part is a
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    | text      = A Alex Jones to the fucking tee Jim. You went to fucking prison
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    | text      = For scamming people for money. All people want these days is money. We got a generation
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    | text      = Millennials with their money grubbing all they want is money
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    | text      = I mean, yeah, most of them haven't gone to prison for frauding people. I'd see if they want the money
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    | text      = I just have to live in their world and I know how to live in their world because the Bible told me to take
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    | text      = Their money and you don't even need to check on that because you can read it. Yeah, that's in the Bible
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    | text      = He's also saying that like in the church for the last couple decades the church
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    | text      = There's been like people who are into money is like hey Joel Osteen Jim a couple decades ago. He went to prison for that
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    | text      = Don't bring up yourself
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    | text      = That's crazy. Also, what about all the prosperity gospel people that you have on your show as guests who talk about seeds
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    | text      = like a Paula White Cane was very
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    | text      = Clearly doing prosperity gospel shit on his show as every guest of his does. I know you are but what am I Dan?
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    | text      = It's crazy. No, you are but what am I it's crazy to me? Like what are you saying? All right now in
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    | text      = That regard based on what you just said, please accept me when I say if you buy that shit, you're dumb. Yeah, it's pretty dumb
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    | text      = Yeah, that's dumb. Well, but if you can't if you hear that and you're like
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    | text      = Wait, if you're not like if you don't have that you don't even have a second of like maybe this guy
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    | text      = You know what? I still believe this guy fucking clearly loves money. He kind of loves money
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | text      = Did he just say he needed 200 grand for faucets and then bitched about how everybody else was all about money?
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    | text      = It's weird weird gets even weirder in this next clip the very
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    | text      = The very
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    | text      = The four horsemen of the apocalypse really
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    | text      = Scrambling that the last one is there's going to be death
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    | text      = By the disease from the animals. What is HIV AIDS? Where does it come from?
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    | text      = Well, I'm the animals all these diseases coming from the animals
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    | text      = What I thought elephants were gonna kill people or lions are tight, but it was one word
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    | text      = what word was wrong and
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    | text      = We have a lot of doctrine built on one word. I don't understand what that means, but it's not that important
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    | text      = We'll talk it's so weird, but we'll talk about it. I just want to know why you thought alien
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    | text      = I why did he pick elephants? Why were elephants gonna kill people?
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    | text      = I can tell you that what he said before that clip started doesn't explain it. I have no idea
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    | text      = I love it's hold on hold on. We have people that trying to say it above all God wants you to be rich
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    | text      = Yeah, I know I bore you with that thought but it's not one in the Bible
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    | text      = It is not in the Bible. It is not in the Bible
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    | text      = Above all God does not want you to be rich, right?
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    | text      = Holy shit, right. What the fuck is happening?
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    | text      = See, this is the other car that's going off the rails now easier for a rich man to get through the eye of a needle
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    | text      = Than it is for him to get into heaven Dan, right? That's just fact that is just fact
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    | text      = The Bible says that but and that is why I need
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    | text      = $200,000 for these fucking sinks. Do you understand that? What he's doing is he's
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    | text      = basically
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    | text      = Refuting a lot of the the ideas that he generally previous the idea. Is it like it's a seed you're planting you give me money
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    | text      = It's coming back that sort of thing. He does that a bit as do most of his guests
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    | text      = He's refuting that say God doesn't want you to be rich. You should give all the money here. It's gonna be better that way
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    | text      = Yep, it makes me feel like he's in trouble in May
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    | text      = Like maybe he doesn't need that 20,000 for the sinks. Maybe he owes back taxes or something like that
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    | text      = Yeah, that's entirely possible. This is about after he filed. Yeah, he's not a 401c now, is he?
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    | text      = He's not a he's not a church. He's still gotta use now. He's still gotta pay taxes
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    | text      = There's no way he gets tax exempt status, man. It would be wild if he went to prison for fraud
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    | text      = You don't then just get to jump back into tax exempt status and his church is very political
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    | text      = Profit-based and profit-based, but it's same thing with that Courtney Brown with the farsighted. Yeah
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    | text      = Organizations once well once called the farsighted
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    | text      = Right. I like this is crazy. I love that. We've added Jim Baker because
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    | text      = Jim Baker is the per so
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    | text      = The way I saw low stakes the way so no no the way that I see the the we previously did Alex and Carrie
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    | text      = Right, right and to me Alex is
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    | text      = Alex is so money motivated that it's kind of boring at a certain extent and Carrie Carrie is money motivated
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    | text      = But she also has a little bit more of that love of the game to her much more
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    | text      = She likes being she likes to be she likes being wild for being wild sakes, right?
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    | text      = Right Jim Baker is the perfect mix of the two that is the most hungry no money-grubbing man
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    | text      = And at the same time he's like fuck. Yeah, let's talk about reptoids disagree
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    | text      = Well, yeah, I agree with that part in terms of the mix of the two. Yeah, but the the thing is so one time
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    | text      = I don't know. This is just a thought that came to me. So my I don't like a lot of Wes Anderson movies
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    | text      = Generally speaking. I think a lot of them are too twee too cute. All of these are fair criticism
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    | text      = I don't like the idea that in a lot of them children act like adults. I think that's stupid. That's a Salinger thing, whatever
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    | text      = be that as it may one time I was talking to my brother about it and
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    | text      = He who said that one of the things that he really appreciates when you look at the bigger body of Wes Anderson's work
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    | text      = Is that most of the movies?
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    | text      = You could take them and they embody the spirit of being a certain age. So you take
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    | text      = like
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    | text      = To interesting argument any interesting are you give me the movie? I'll tell you the age you're at
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    | text      = Let's go. Well, let's start at the beginning bottle rocket bottle rocket is when you're in your like aimless 20s
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    | text      = Okay, you're like I should have amounted to something and I didn't okay and you do sort of struggling through like wow
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    | text      = Maybe I'll become a bank robber
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    | text      = All right
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    | text      = Is that sort of thing where it's maybe possible that that's the life for you and you entertained stupid
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    | text      = Possibilities and that spirit isn't captured. All right in bottle rocket
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    | text      = all right moonrise kingdom moonrise kingdom is when you are like 12 and you fall in love with somebody and it seems so
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    | text      = Epic when it's really not they play out the theme of it being like this profound
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    | text      = Beautiful thing that you have to fight for when in reality. It's not it's the idea of your first love is embodied in moonrise kingdom
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    | text      = Okay
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    | text      = Magnificent. Mr. Fox that's real early childhood. Okay, that's sort of like a that one. I kind of don't buy
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    | text      = I have not said that one's a different story. I haven't seen that you did
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    | text      = And also
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    | text      = and also this theory was
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    | text      = This theory was pitched to me before that came out
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    | text      = All right, so I assume you have a prepared answer for
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    | text      = A lot of this is prepared. You have a prepared answer for royal tenenbaums and yeah royal tenenbaums
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    | text      = Yeah
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    | text      = No
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    | text      = That way you are watching your your parents get old and that was now your whole life has become like the disillusionment
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    | text      = of the past generation and then the the the life aquatic is when you come to the end of your career and you
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    | text      = Realize you're no longer useful in the way that you used to be that sort of struggle
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    | text      = So each of his movies have like this profound not rite of passage necessarily
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    | text      = but this pivot point in people's lives these really profound moments and that
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    | text      = Allowed me to appreciate some of the movies more in a way that you didn't previously
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    | text      = Yeah, and I appreciate because just in the watching of the movie. You're kind of like this is twee bullshit
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    | text      = Yeah, and it's not like I hated them
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    | text      = But I didn't like them that much no and I appreciated that theory very much
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    | text      = and the only reason I bring this up has been fucking long-winded as hell is that I think what we have is
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    | text      = different periods in a propagandists career
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    | text      = Depicted by these three you just tied that all together
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    | text      = Fantastically we have Carrie who's I mean in age. They're all probably around the same
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    | text      = Yeah, pretty much because Alex is well, Alex is Alex is younger than Jim Baker and yeah
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    | text      = Yeah, Jim Baker is like a hundred. How old is Jim Baker? He's Methuselah
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    | text      = He's a million years old right that guy's gonna be conning long after we're dead when Alex is
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    | text      = Presumably 45 or something like that. Yeah, whatever carry beard is
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    | text      = 50s probably Baker's 70 yeah age aside you have Carrie still hungry
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    | text      = She's still out there and great searching for the true money motivated. So that part is sort of you take that as red
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    | text      = Hey, it's the capitalist system. You have Carrie and she's crazy and still like I will talk to like I texted you earlier
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    | text      = I listened to an episode today where she was interviewing a guy who was a dishwasher about how he created a warp drive
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    | text      = Why would you do that? Unless you're fucking hungry and you're hoping that he's not like you're going for the you're going for it
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    | text      = Yeah, that's a big swing. You're gonna miss most of the time but a couple times it's gonna be a home run
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    | text      = Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. She's willing to she's the Adam Dunn of conspiracy. We're going to take those cuts
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    | text      = Yeah, then you got Alex Jones who is just like I'm in the middle of this. I've made some mistakes
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    | text      = I'm a shithead
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    | text      = Whatever. I don't get I don't care. I've fallen in with the wrong crowd. Yeah, I'm in the middle of this
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    | timestamp = 02:09:31.619
    | text      = I'll try and probably get redemption later. He's resigned. Yeah currently he's resigned
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    | text      = He's like I am this is my fate and I am resigned to it
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    | timestamp = 02:09:41.500
    | text      = And then Jim Baker is the guy who's waiting to die. Yeah, he's over the hill
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    | timestamp = 02:09:46.100
    | text      = He's still just doing this because it's what he knows how to do right and is decently good at it to some extent
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    | text      = Well, if you go to prison for it, and then you go back to doing it. That is what's called recidivism. Yes
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    | timestamp = 02:09:57.619
    | text      = Yes, that is exactly what that's called. He kind of doesn't give it. This is the only thing I know
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    | timestamp = 02:10:02.380
    | text      = He's in his late career. He's the Steve Zissou of the cons. Not bad way to bring it back
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    | text      = Yeah, so there is that I appreciate that picture of these people that like different stages of the con
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    | timestamp = 02:10:15.500
    | text      = Yeah, but not the con. No the life of the con is the same
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    | timestamp = 02:10:19.380
    | text      = It's just the it's just the the growth chapters of the con
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    | text      = I want where's our where's our because we need to find our Margeau
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    | timestamp = 02:10:26.060
    | text      = We need to find our young con. No need to find our like there's no millions of them
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    | timestamp = 02:10:30.899
    | text      = Well, yeah, I mean we got we got the other assholes, but they're too angry now. Yeah, that's true
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    | text      = I want a con. I want a young con who's who's got who's selling a message of hope
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    | timestamp = 02:10:40.380
    | text      = it's hard it's hard to find that cuz all of the the young cons now are all about and we're gonna kill everybody and
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    | timestamp = 02:10:46.859
    | text      = We're get them fired from Disney or whatever the fuck it is
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    | text      = They do know the the the twisting of the right wing has really hurt the con business
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    | timestamp = 02:10:54.779
    | text      = It has hurt the cause it's become almost a magnet for those people because they realize how easy it is to get your shit
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    | timestamp = 02:11:00.460
    | text      = Not hard you get your shit reposted like crazy and just say the right inflammatory things
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    | text      = Yeah, and so these people very like if you are a con person
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    | text      = You're obviously more motivated by publicity more motivated by traction than you are from actually substance
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    | text      = Yeah, so our young Connors are like the the Fox News 21 year olds
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    | text      = But they're like, oh, is it Laura Loomer or something like that? Isn't she she's like what what sir?
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    | timestamp = 02:11:25.619
    | text      = What are the ones that are like Laura Loomer doesn't have a career? No, it's the it's the what's the one who fucking and nevermind
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    | timestamp = 02:11:31.380
    | text      = I don't need to know their name. Amy Loran. Tommy Loran. Yes. Yes her she's the young con. She's not even a con person
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    | timestamp = 02:11:37.520
    | text      = She's just a talking head on TV. She couldn't do it her on her own. Oh, yeah. No, that's true
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    | timestamp = 02:11:42.579
    | text      = So you could say like a Ben Shapiro or something like that, but that guy sucks. Yeah, it's shitty at the con
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    | timestamp = 02:11:49.779
    | text      = Yeah, he doesn't he's not he's not playing the exact same game now and there's also other
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    | text      = Difficulties to that like this is our spin-off show
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    | text      = Dale and Jordan rate whether or not somebody could become a good con do they have the chop? Yeah, do they got the chops?
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    | text      = trying to think I don't know man, like there's a
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    | text      = Looking at people who come up on infowars from time to time
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    | timestamp = 02:12:11.260
    | text      = I can't think of anybody who's got the goods like Owen Schroyer doesn't have no but I'm also thinking about guests
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    | timestamp = 02:12:17.699
    | text      = If there's anybody who he's had on who's like there's a spark of something here. There's nobody
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    | text      = Do you think it might the other problem that I think is important is that if you're going to become a?
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    | timestamp = 02:12:27.739
    | text      = Legit con person in the vein of the the trio that we talked about
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    | text      = One of the most important pieces is that you need a backup support system. Yeah, so for Carrie, it's people like Mark Richards
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    | timestamp = 02:12:39.340
    | text      = It's people like right right weirdo from England who bangs around with an alien
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    | timestamp = 02:12:44.220
    | text      = Yeah, you need a cast of rebels Simon you need a oceans 11, right? Yeah for Alex
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    | timestamp = 02:12:49.819
    | text      = It's Steve Pachannik now Roger Stone before that Larry Nichols
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    | timestamp = 02:12:54.300
    | text      = Gerald Cilenti all these guys Craig Roberts. Yeah for Jim Baker. It's all these weird prosperity gospel preachers that come in
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    | text      = like the Tom Horns
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    | timestamp = 02:13:04.380
    | text      = And we're here theory Steve our our generation of the con is
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:09.619
    | text      = Crowdsourced our generation of the con our greatest con men are like go to our patreon are like your your four chance
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:16.020
    | text      = Like it's it's a it's a collective mind. It's a hive mind con. That's who's coming up
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    | timestamp = 02:13:21.539
    | text      = It's the 14 and 15 year olds. It's the 25 year old or the 35 year old five year old on
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    | timestamp = 02:13:27.180
    | text      = Pretending they're 14 year old exactly exactly who are on 4chan who are just writing fanfic and then throwing it out into the world
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    | timestamp = 02:13:33.260
    | text      = And they all amplify it together. Yeah, I don't think we're gonna have that same charismatic con
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:13:38.340
    | text      = all of our charismatic leaders are going to be on the other side or or that because of what I was talking about earlier with a
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    | timestamp = 02:13:45.300
    | text      = Magnetization of all this to the right because yeah not happening towards the left right you have people on the left who are conning
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    | text      = presumably
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    | timestamp = 02:13:53.380
    | text      = Ostensibly on the left people like the Louise mentions. Yeah. Yeah, but that's so that's not a yeah
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    | timestamp = 02:13:58.779
    | text      = That's so minor to be larger conversation of like what the left is. I don't think that there is I
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    | text      = Don't think there are valid
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    | timestamp = 02:14:08.460
    | text      = Media folks on the left who are doing the con right as it as it were right rare
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    | timestamp = 02:14:13.460
    | text      = I think there are fringe voices like her but like but if you're on the left and you're
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    | timestamp = 02:14:19.500
    | text      = fighting against the con
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:21.340
    | text      = Like the con is ultimately a right-wing grift. The con is always a I don't think it always has been no
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:27.060
    | text      = But it's all the con is always I'm going to convince you to act against your own
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    | timestamp = 02:14:32.220
    | text      = Interests by making you think that your interests are the interests of me. Sure
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    | timestamp = 02:14:37.659
    | text      = That's the con but so like if you want to go with your you're like
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    | timestamp = 02:14:42.460
    | text      = Alexandria, you know she is not a Cortez
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:45.140
    | text      = She could fucking con the shit out of people but she's on the left
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:49.140
    | text      = And so her idea is I'm going to take your interests and I'm gonna make them my interests
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:14:54.579
    | text      = And thus we're all gonna be moving forward. Maybe the reason that I have pause is that I don't think that that's always been the tableau
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    | timestamp = 02:15:01.779
    | text      = Where the left is no no, no, no, don't don't disagree. I don't don't yeah. Yeah, don't extrapolate that too far
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    | timestamp = 02:15:09.180
    | text      = I'm talking about now, but I think even as early as like
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    | timestamp = 02:15:13.260
    | text      = Five years ago that might not have been the case. You know what I mean? You think so?
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    | timestamp = 02:15:17.300
    | text      = Well, I think there's still media figures on the left who were trying to make a lot of like a fuck
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    | timestamp = 02:15:21.760
    | text      = Look and a lot of them though that they they're more entrenched in like magazine journalism. Yeah
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    | timestamp = 02:15:27.159
    | text      = Yeah
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:27.600
    | text      = They don't know that radio shows right in the same way as the guys on the right that we but that's probably just because
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    | timestamp = 02:15:33.680
    | text      = That's where they got a gig
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    | timestamp = 02:15:35.800
    | text      = As opposed to the right-wing is so entrenched in the media sphere through the Koch brothers
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    | timestamp = 02:15:42.399
    | text      = Frying and what-have-you. I don't know. It's it's that's an interesting conversation for another day
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    | timestamp = 02:15:48.800
    | text      = spend hours on
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:15:50.800
    | text      = What are we fantasy drafting con men? Is that what we're doing? I think a little bit
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    | timestamp = 02:15:56.439
    | text      = But we can't because you're you're you're right in a way that I wasn't expecting not like I think you're dumb or wrong
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    | timestamp = 02:16:02.699
    | text      = But like I do think that there's something to be said for that the idea of the crowdsourcing the con
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:08.800
    | text      = In terms of these message boards and shit, but here's what I think
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    | timestamp = 02:16:12.960
    | text      = in reality is
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    | timestamp = 02:16:15.960
    | text      = There will rise
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    | timestamp = 02:16:17.960
    | text      = Some other con man on
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:21.399
    | text      = YouTube or in some form I don't know could be could make his own channel or something like that
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    | timestamp = 02:16:27.359
    | text      = It's a Dan prophecy is what this is. I'm not I just expect is probably the most natural progression history rhymes
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    | timestamp = 02:16:33.120
    | text      = Well, but the thing is that you have
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    | timestamp = 02:16:35.520
    | text      = Examples of this that have hit the wall already. Yeah people like a Mike Cernovich or something like that
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:40.440
    | text      = but there will be someone who creates their own thing and
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:43.600
    | text      = And it won't be that the four chains the red. It's all that stuff. All that crowdsourcing will be the con
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:50.440
    | text      = Yeah, but that will be
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:52.959
    | text      = Unnamed the backdrop for the con that'll be your that'll be your system. That'll be your pachannic
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:16:58.840
    | text      = Exactly be your stone exactly fortune
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    | timestamp = 02:17:01.239
    | text      = but the problem with that and the reason why I think that is a unsustainable economy is because
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    | timestamp = 02:17:07.200
    | text      = What makes it work with pachannic and what makes it work with Roger Stone is that?
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    | timestamp = 02:17:12.399
    | text      = They will show their face and talk right. They will be on the show and say things that Alex can use as
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    | timestamp = 02:17:19.399
    | text      = This is this is evidence of blank. Whereas if you have a message board, that's this hive mind that again
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    | timestamp = 02:17:25.360
    | text      = You're right is creating fanfic basically, right?
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    | timestamp = 02:17:28.479
    | text      = You can't really bring them on as guests unless you just make them all anonymous
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    | timestamp = 02:17:33.879
    | text      = representatives like that and that doesn't carry the same weight, but that's when we start getting into rhizome theory wherein is it?
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    | timestamp = 02:17:40.239
    | text      = Yeah, I would say so
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    | timestamp = 02:17:53.559
    | text      = Fair enough fair enough. No, I am interested
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    | timestamp = 02:17:58.280
    | text      = The most obvious thing that everybody could think now, we're into rhizome theory
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    | timestamp = 02:18:02.600
    | text      = That joke on my part was a hundred percent me trying to bail myself out of being very confused about
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    | timestamp = 02:18:09.639
    | text      = the connection you're making
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    | timestamp = 02:18:12.879
    | text      = What what like I mean the most popular version of rhizome theory is
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    | timestamp = 02:18:20.200
    | text      = like ghost in the shell like that kind of concept out of the out of the
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:25.639
    | text      = out of 4chan out of this nebulous mass of hive mind will come a
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:31.440
    | text      = Representative of that sure will be the face of it. Well, we already have that with QAnon, right?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:36.959
    | text      = But but there will be a person who is the embodiment of this QAnon who it never mind
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    | timestamp = 02:18:43.360
    | text      = Well, that'll happen once we're able to really perfect this
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    | timestamp = 02:18:46.639
    | text      = yes, like
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    | text      = facial
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    | timestamp = 02:18:50.120
    | text      = Recon like oh, yeah, my might actually be a fake
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:18:53.440
    | text      = It's like that Al Pacino movie like that Al Pacino movie. There we go scent of a woman now. I
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    | timestamp = 02:19:02.040
    | text      = Was gonna go with devil's advocate, but all right. All right
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    | timestamp = 02:19:06.280
    | text      = All right, let's get back. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's right. That's right. We're
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    | timestamp = 02:19:10.000
    | text      = Hold on. Where are we talking about CERN at some point at some point?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:15.360
    | text      = We've mostly moved past CERN. Okay, CERN will come back up
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:18.840
    | text      = Okay, but before we get there, so like just to put a button on all that that we were talking about before we went off
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    | timestamp = 02:19:23.799
    | text      = On that tangent. Yeah, dude, Jim Baker
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    | timestamp = 02:19:27.200
    | text      = Shut the fuck up. Like yeah, you are one of you are the
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    | timestamp = 02:19:32.719
    | text      = the
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    | timestamp = 02:19:33.959
    | text      = archetypal example of someone using religion to make money
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:37.520
    | text      = Yeah, so you coming on and being like there's a disease about loving money
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:42.520
    | text      = Yeah, you're still doing it. You are you you are the archetypal example because of when you went to prison and now you're still
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    | timestamp = 02:19:50.239
    | text      = Doing it, baby
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:51.000
    | text      = And that's why that one lady goes on and says if it weren't for you
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:19:54.879
    | text      = You were the trailblazer if it weren't for you you paved the way man for the people who can scam
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:00.799
    | text      = Yeah, if it weren't for you, we wouldn't have to deal with fucking Joel Osteen you fucking asshole
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    | timestamp = 02:20:05.520
    | text      = So here's an interesting thing before we get back to this clip. I don't know why I need to extend this but
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    | timestamp = 02:20:09.760
    | text      = The the con we're talking about. Yeah, I think Paula White Cole is doing a really poly white cane
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    | timestamp = 02:20:16.719
    | text      = Yeah
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:17.120
    | text      = It's a great job with the con in many ways in terms of her doing the prosperity gospel stuff
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:23.239
    | text      = And yes worked herself into the president's ear
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:28.559
    | text      = We're all gonna die, but she's not doing the con, right?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:31.920
    | text      = because before
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:33.399
    | text      = We did that episode you had no idea who she was
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:36.600
    | text      = Uh-huh, what's guessing most of our listeners had no idea that was exactly what I was about when you brought her name up
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    | timestamp = 02:20:42.079
    | text      = I was like she's but I didn't know who she was until you said it. So yeah
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    | timestamp = 02:20:45.920
    | text      = I think she's perfect much into the influence side of the con and not so much into the the PR side, right?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:53.079
    | text      = Yeah, formative side and that means that she's not in the con. Yeah, she's a power player
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:20:58.719
    | text      = Yeah, who is very very clear like once she starts talking, you know the game, right?
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    | text      = But she's someone who's more interested in like beltway politics. I'm sure she's an influencer
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    | text      = She's like she's like the insta these she's like the Instagram gun where it's like you if you follow her
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    | text      = She's got sponsored content that you don't know
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    | text      = Attempts embedded exactly exactly content, which is very clear to anyone who's not a fucking ding-dong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely
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    | text      = I think it's a different kind of con. I don't think it's fair to put it in the same world as
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    | text      = It's a internet con. It's an offshoot. Yeah. All right. So anyway, we're still doing the show, right? Yes. Okay. Um
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    | text      = One of the things that we always talk about is like trying to connect these worlds to each other
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    | text      = Which I think we've done a decent job in these derivations that we've gone off on but I would just say that
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    | text      = Here's another one where Tom
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    | text      = Boy, this sounds like something that could just be said on Alex's show or project Camelot any of them really?
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    | text      = But sometimes
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    | text      = Become the portal and that was what happened with the Watchers. They wanted a methodology
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    | text      = They wanted a way of leaving their fixed estate. That's what Peter says
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    | text      = That's what Jude says those angels which kept not their page invitation. They're there their estate
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    | text      = They wanted to enter into our reality
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    | text      = They had to come up with a way of doing that because they didn't want to just they didn't want to be like demons
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    | text      = They don't want to just possess somebody in whom the spirit of man still dwell. That would be very incarnation
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    | text      = This was an affront to God and they figure
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    | text      = Now these angels couldn't speak into existence like God can but they participated in creation
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    | text      = They knew at least as much about genetics as our scientists do today
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    | text      = Well, what does all of the ancient records say they came down they took the genetics of women the genetics of animals
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    | text      = I don't mean they created a unique biological entity
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    | text      = Into which a man's spirit wouldn't be because it wasn't a man
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    | text      = The character of an animal wouldn't go into it because it wasn't a cow. It was something entirely
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    | text      = outside of the divine order
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    | text      = So he said that and I was listening in like
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    | text      = Is my boy talking about chimeras? Is my boy talking about chimeras? I'm asking you
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    | text      = I think he's a little bit you think my boys talking about I think he's I think he's talking about genetic fucking alterations
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    | text      = This seems chimera adjacent. So real hard angels couldn't speak things into existence
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    | text      = However, they do know the basic amino acid structure
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    | text      = Yeah, and thus are capable of altering genes in order to create paint by the way
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    | text      = I would say the end result is the same God. Hey, hold on. Don't you dare say that?
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    | text      = I would say you can't just speak amino acids into existence
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    | text      = I would say like if God's lying in the sand is like you can do the same thing as me
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    | text      = But I can just go blah and do it
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    | text      = Not sure
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    | text      = Not sure. This is a good division of powers. I
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    | text      = Think that if I were God, I would say hey, I'm gonna reserve that power for myself
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    | text      = You'd be a shit God these these fucking watchers have found workarounds
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    | text      = They found pathways
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    | text      = Any time any time you get really into the weeds of theology sooner or later? They always point out
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    | text      = Loopholes in their own belief system not true like it really into the weeds of theology scholars. They don't. Oh, yeah
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    | text      = No, no, of course. No, of course, they talk about the translations of various words. Yeah
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    | text      = No, they're they're boring. They're nerds. Yeah. No when you get in with these guys, it's always like they create this they create this
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    | text      = Bullshit God and then this God is dumb enough to have then created bullshit
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    | text      = Loopholes that allow the dumb things that this dumb God has created to then make God look dumb. I like it's dumb
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    | text      = I didn't want my minions to do X but I created them with all of the abilities to do X now their argument to that
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    | text      = Would be that God is super into free will sure and the idea is that you're supposed to choose not to do that
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    | text      = And I'm pretty sure Calvin would disagree
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    | text      = Mmm, I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure that they're not Hobbes. What about?
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    | text      = He's not real Dan, that's not real
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    | text      = What are you talking about the Leviathan? Yep. Yeah, so I was thinking like as I listen to that
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    | text      = Like I said my boy talking about cameras. Oh, he's talking about it wasn't clear. I'm sure that's not it's not a cow
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    | text      = Not a cow. So it's not an animal. Nope. It's not a person. Nope
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    | timestamp = 02:25:24.260
    | text      = So it's not a person something's got to get in there, but it's something in between
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    | text      = Yeah, and that means that angel souls or whatever can get in there elephants
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    | text      = That's why they were gonna kill us could be that's it. One word was wrong. That'll plague me
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    | timestamp = 02:25:36.319
    | text      = I don't know what he was talking about. What word was wrong? I don't know. Does he not explain it? Nope
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    | timestamp = 02:25:41.180
    | text      = No, I thought for sure we were gonna get that word. Zero context. What? Nope
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    | text      = You can't just say one word was wrong and then not say what that word was
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    | text      = No, cuz he started jumping off into like everyone wants money. That's that's where he took that line of thought
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    | timestamp = 02:25:54.379
    | text      = Oh, so that's fucking insane. Anyway, here's where it's really clear. They're talking about cameras now ask yourself
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    | text      = What's happening in science around the world today in?
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    | text      = Transhumanism in laboratories around the world here in the United States of America here in Missouri
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    | text      = We are creating animals with human DNA inside. He's not from as well
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    | text      = This is it's he's not from Missouri because if he was and he had this voice he would have said, Missouri
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    | timestamp = 02:26:18.219
    | text      = I know that might go right off the top. There you go slide them at the University of Missouri. Yes, we are spider goats
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    | timestamp = 02:26:25.340
    | text      = That's my alma mater. I could tell you with almost categorical certainty. They are not doing 100% making chimeras right now
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    | timestamp = 02:26:32.260
    | text      = They are not 100% making what Zayder goats. They don't have anywhere near the funding for that goats not spider goats
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    | text      = for xeno transplantation
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    | timestamp = 02:26:41.420
    | text      = Experiments this is happening all across the world. It's the
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    | text      = The
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    | text      = Francis published a booklet 150 page booklet if somebody emails mail, so it's actually
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    | text      = 150 page in which they they call at least
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    | text      = containing human material human animal chimeras and they they assert that they are being created by the
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    | text      = Thousands in laboratories around the world and some of them they say reaching human cognition
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    | timestamp = 02:27:07.899
    | text      = Animals that begin questioning who am I where they're sad eyes. They're a god
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    | text      = Oh, they're sad eyes. We're gonna pause there cuz we gotta let this would go
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    | text      = No, we're gonna we're gonna finish the rest of this clip
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    | text      = But like you exactly, you know why he's saying that cuz he's friends with Steve Quayle
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    | text      = Of course, who said the same thing to Alex all of this goes back to Steve Quayle
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    | timestamp = 02:27:28.739
    | text      = God damaged that they've created animal humans that have the ability to cross breed with natural humans
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    | timestamp = 02:27:34.780
    | text      = It wasn't the days of Noah if this isn't a repeat of the scent of the watchers
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    | timestamp = 02:27:38.819
    | text      = I don't know what is but once again you say I've met you open the show yesterday saying how many churches?
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    | text      = Would know if I said what about CERN what do you know about CERN, right?
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    | timestamp = 02:27:48.659
    | text      = How many people know that in thousands of laboratories around the world? We are creating human animal chimeras
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    | timestamp = 02:27:54.239
    | text      = They're supposed to be destroyed at the embryonic level
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    | timestamp = 02:27:57.100
    | text      = They are John like great Britain from their equivalent of the FDA and says it's they're not all being destroyed
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    | timestamp = 02:28:03.940
    | text      = There's a literal islands of dr. Moreau these
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    | text      = These would be like a new form of Nephilim. What is it that's in them if they're not animal if they're not human
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    | timestamp = 02:28:14.379
    | text      = What what is it that's in them? What is this is just a less charismatic version of Alex? Yeah, this is the same thing
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    | timestamp = 02:28:20.299
    | text      = This is a bummer. Also. I hate to be petty, but it would be the islands of doctors moreau
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    | timestamp = 02:28:27.700
    | text      = Much much like it's attorneys general. Yes. I gotcha
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    | text      = This
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    | timestamp = 02:28:36.139
    | text      = Is just another example of them warping things about science that are weird
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    | timestamp = 02:28:42.500
    | text      = These fucking people doing it's all just Steve quail. Oh my god read a book. Well, he unfortunately read a book
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    | timestamp = 02:28:48.739
    | text      = It was written by Steve quail
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    | timestamp = 02:28:51.139
    | text      = So I told you we're gonna get back to CERN and in this next clip we do and this is this is pretty fun
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    | timestamp = 02:28:56.979
    | text      = When the angel comes down with a key to the bottomless pit opens it up and it says they have a king
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    | timestamp = 02:29:03.399
    | text      = Over them down there, which is not on which is called in the Greek tongue Apollyon Apollo
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    | timestamp = 02:29:09.000
    | text      = And of course, that's the spirit that's going to come up and inhabit the Antichrist
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    | timestamp = 02:29:13.799
    | text      = So to build this machine that wants to open a door into another universe
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    | timestamp = 02:29:19.239
    | text      = Right where the ancients said the apollyacom was located is just some kind of unnerving, right?
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    | text      = Wow
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    | timestamp = 02:29:27.719
    | text      = Yes Wow is correct. Yeah, the other part of that is that's fucking dumb. What is CERN mean
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    | timestamp = 02:29:35.079
    | text      = Translation the name you guys know CER and I know it was originally
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    | timestamp = 02:29:42.120
    | text      = Had a niche
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    | timestamp = 02:29:44.799
    | text      = First of all the answer the long pause and then I used to know I forget not great not great
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    | timestamp = 02:29:50.319
    | text      = But well, you have initials. That's right CERN. It was a French acronym right now
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    | timestamp = 02:29:56.559
    | text      = A lot of people said, you know
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    | timestamp = 02:29:57.559
    | text      = Well, they were doesn't really mean anything and and essentially people thought that it didn't like I said
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    | timestamp = 02:30:01.600
    | text      = It was a French acronym and they they realized, you know, this acronym is just kind of silly
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    | timestamp = 02:30:05.239
    | text      = So they actually ditched the acronym and they kept the name CERN
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:30:09.040
    | text      = Well, my question is what does CERN mean could it have a meaning could it be connected to something else as well?
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    | timestamp = 02:30:14.719
    | text      = What well, it's interesting that in the Wiccan faith that there are two main DDS and the main deity is called the horned
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    | timestamp = 02:30:20.799
    | text      = God or her in the hunter and this horned God if you look back to the conventional name given to it by this
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    | timestamp = 02:30:26.920
    | text      = The seltz am I saying that right? No counts the name given to this deity is
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    | timestamp = 02:30:34.040
    | text      = CERN you nuts and it's actually the god of the underworld
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:30:38.879
    | text      = So he is ready blah that is
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    | timestamp = 02:30:41.799
    | text      = the most wild
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    | timestamp = 02:30:43.799
    | text      = Disconnected bullshit. I think I've heard from somebody who is scrambling to remember
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    | timestamp = 02:30:49.319
    | text      = He's read a blog Zach Zach. How is it that you can say that?
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    | timestamp = 02:30:53.719
    | text      = It used to be a French acronym, but then you cannot say what that acronym stood for
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    | timestamp = 02:30:59.000
    | text      = Well CERN was founded in 1952 and it takes its name from what the group was originally called the Concierge European pour le
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    | timestamp = 02:31:06.239
    | text      = Recerche
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    | timestamp = 02:31:07.280
    | text      = Nucleaire sounds like what counts believed in yep that acronym was substantially better than what they would have ended up with when they changed
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    | timestamp = 02:31:15.000
    | text      = their name in 1954 to the
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    | text      = organization european pour le recerche nucleaire
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    | timestamp = 02:31:21.280
    | text      = OERN is a shit acronym
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    | timestamp = 02:31:23.920
    | text      = Yeah, so everyone decided to keep CERN as an acronym when they changed their name from Concierge to organization
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    | timestamp = 02:31:30.440
    | text      = So like council to organization. Yeah, they changed the name just based on like a vote
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    | timestamp = 02:31:35.319
    | text      = Yeah, and they're like, you know what? We're not it
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    | timestamp = 02:31:37.479
    | text      = We're not OERN sucks because council suggests that it's a small group of people making decisions
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:31:43.799
    | text      = Organization suggests that it's a large group of people all working together. Yes now
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    | timestamp = 02:31:49.040
    | text      = It's been the organization european pour le recerche nucleaire
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    | timestamp = 02:31:53.879
    | text      = Since 1954 they changed the name then but have kept the the abbreviation CERN because of the kelton
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    | timestamp = 02:32:00.280
    | text      = No, because it's better because the Celts OERN sucks. So one of the reasons that idiot conspiracy theorists in America
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    | timestamp = 02:32:07.239
    | text      = Are probably more prone to target CERN is because we're not a member of the associate
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    | timestamp = 02:32:17.079
    | text      = We have observer status which we've held since 1997 well, that's nice, but we're not an active participant and I think that that sort of
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    | timestamp = 02:32:25.600
    | text      = rankles some feathers
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    | timestamp = 02:32:27.600
    | text      = That's because
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    | text      = I'm gonna go with Obama's fault. Sure. Sure. Absolutely. I ran deal. Yep. That's what it is. So there's some sort of anti-american
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    | timestamp = 02:32:38.639
    | text      = Projection that I think a lot of people like these folks are feeling about this like what are these damn Europeans doing and
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    | timestamp = 02:32:44.879
    | text      = You can feel it in the same way. There's like I think it's a French acronym
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:32:48.319
    | text      = But like it's a French acronym for the Council of European research into nuclear stuff
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    | text      = You know like it's the most the simple
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    | text      = Acronym that you could know if you did any any understanding
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    | text      = Said it's a French acronym. You research it. He said it's a French acronym like
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    | text      = One of the words is Satan. No, no, no like acronym in French means something different than here
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    | text      = Like he's saying it's a French acronym as though who knows what those people think acronyms are those weirdos
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    | text      = Well, yeah, but it's that aunt. It's that anti
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    | text      = mentality that's just it's it's it's crazy everywhere and it's
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    | text      = Crazy to me how we began this episode with Jim Baker saying there is only one God
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    | text      = Jehovah and then at the end of this as we've continued on through this
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    | text      = Jim Baker believes now that every mythology is real he must yeah, or at least there's some validity like yeah
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    | text      = They're throwing in every God from everywhere CERN is a Celtic now, but why so what so I apologize
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    | text      = But I think CERN is actually Danny Ainge, but that's who CERN is
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    | text      = I think that I think that some of that though we were not unpacking correctly
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    | text      = I think I think there's a decent amount of that that is like I don't believe this is real, but I'm afraid
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah that sort of thing that and so I think that there's a little bit of leeway in terms of him not like
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    | text      = Every Pantheon while he still brings fear of every Pantheon. I think there's some wiggle room. It's not great
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    | text      = I'm gonna go I'm gonna you know what if it was like once or twice I would I would more lean towards you
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    | text      = But it seems like they're bringing up all they're just throwing everything like we got Shiva in there
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    | text      = We got the fucking Sun God in Arizona
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    | text      = We got the Celts we got we got Apollo is the one who's gonna come up from the ground
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    | text      = That's what God prophesied, but now God knows that Apollo is there like everything is real to these people everything is real
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    | text      = I mean, I think it isn't the Bible that Azazel does get bound like deep within the earth or something like that sure
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    | text      = But that's Apollo now sure well Abaddon
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    | text      = So let's get back to this
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    | text      = Celtic deity hmm. I hate that and I love it when he says the Celts am I saying am I saying that right?
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    | text      = Everybody's like sure no one's no you're talking you're talking about Bill Russell right no one is is
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    | text      = It all thrown off, so there's a Celtic deity that is named Cernunnos and his other name is Larry Bird. Yes
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    | text      = very racist
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    | text      = So the name Cernunnos only exists in one place in history, and it's on the pillar of the boatman
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    | text      = Which is something that was from around first century BC common era that is where we got the phrase that Jesus said
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    | text      = I'm gonna make you boaters of men right. I'm gonna make you boat a boatman of titties
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    | text      = motor boatman of titties
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    | text      = I'm losing it towards the end of this so Cernunnos
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    | text      = Exists only on this pillar. Yeah, the name Cernunnos has existed or nowhere else
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    | text      = Right in antiquity much like Paulie Floy's yes
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    | text      = It's that same sort of thing which again the now that you've told me that that's going to haunt me
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    | text      = Probably the idea that there's yeah, there's a bunch of examples of it, and that sort of thing is so fast
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    | text      = I'm gonna spend all my time researching that you've just ruined my life
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    | text      = I don't remember what the word for it is
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    | text      = But there's a whole collection of like words that only exist in one place ever
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    | text      = And it's so fascinating that like history has that much room and we have these like all these texts from history
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    | text      = Yeah, and nope that word was that words one time that was a one-time word is one-off
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    | text      = So this name only exists on this pillar of the boatman which was like I said from the first century CE
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    | text      = And was discovered later
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    | text      = It doesn't really matter because Cernunnos plays like seventh banana on that pillar to Jupiter
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    | text      = Volcanists and a host of Roman and Gallic Gallic deities yes
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    | text      = Historians conjecture that he was a French deities if you're nasty tray BS
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    | text      = May we?
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    | text      = They historians conjecture that he was the lord of animals or wild things based on his horned appearance
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    | text      = I'm era he has horns. I'm era sure, but there's a lot of there's a lot of deities over time
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    | text      = There's a lot of chimeras right so another thing like a bunch of other people have asserted that he's the god of fertility
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    | text      = In some some ways god of the underworld is also in there, but it's like
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    | text      = Toss it's one of 12. Yeah, just toss him in doesn't doesn't really a lot of underworld gods these days
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    | text      = He's not he's not one-to-one associated with the underworld like Zach
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    | text      = Who's dumb is saying so dumb now?
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    | text      = It's interesting because some forms of Wicca have taken on recognizing Cernunnos
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    | text      = But only as much as they'll take on about any God from any culture
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    | text      = that has fucking horns.
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    | text      = Nothing against the Wiccans out there, but you love a horned deity. They like they like horns right and so
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    | text      = I feel like I don't know this. I don't know this to be a universal
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    | text      = I don't know what you're gonna say, and I what I think you're gonna
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    | text      = Say it doesn't sound great from my experience with Wiccans all right here
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    | text      = It comes in high school here it comes and and in later times. I feel like the horns are gonna be important
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    | text      = No, not at all. I find I have found and again. This is not a blanket statement
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    | text      = Just my own observation. It seems that the people who are
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    | text      = Drift who drift that direction also are people who are kind of nerdy and like obscure things
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    | text      = So I would I would suggest that people who are attracted to Wiccanism are also people who do deep
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    | text      = Various cultures around the world various deities and probably someone was like I found this fucking obscure horned
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    | text      = God yeah, this is going to be awesome
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    | text      = It's gonna be great
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    | text      = And then they became really cool in their circle and then Cernunnos came to being right and now Zach is making a scary thing
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    | text      = Because this one bowl image is on a fucking pillar. It was fucking buried underground for
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    | text      = 1300 years this was all actually laid out in a prophecy by Douglas Adams called the long dark tea time of the soul and
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    | text      = Everybody should read that book. It's fantastic. Oh my god. There's a babble fish in one of his books
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    | text      = He's probably means he's Illuminati. He stepped into the
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    | text      = God whatever sure it's a fish. Oh boy, so Jordan. We have one more clip yes
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    | text      = I wanted to have one more clip after this
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    | text      = But I didn't cut it because it was pointless and it was Jim once again saying that the Apostles read the scepter sure and I was
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    | text      = Like wow we already made that point
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    | text      = So there's one thing I think
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    | text      = We've seen a number of parallels between our worlds yes the project Camelot the Alex Jones and
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    | text      = The Jim Baker almost say that Cern had created a parallel universe where all of these worlds existed at the same time on this show
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    | text      = exactly, but I think there's one thing on a
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    | text      = deeper level
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    | text      = connects Alex Jones
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    | text      = sweary Carrie Cassidy and
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    | text      = Jim Baker's hope it's Larry Nichols. It's not it is this trend okay now
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    | text      = I've often wondered if the Antichrist isn't going to have something strange about his genetics in the neighborhood
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    | text      = Give you a scenario here that I think is important
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    | text      = You mentioned a moment ago the beasts of the field and you said when you were in prison
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    | text      = I'm glad you brought it up because you're the only other person I've ever heard that that understood this that the Greek word
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    | text      = There is story on real quick the part that Jim Baker was talking about him being in prison very clearly cut out of this episode
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    | text      = Because I listen to all three hours of this and that is not
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    | text      = That's not something that's reference factor
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    | text      = Also, I don't know what Greek word. He's talking about, but let's let it fly yeah, and the reason it's in
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    | text      = Translated beasts is because it essentially means tiny beasts like
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    | text      = Microscopic size bees and it fits perfectly with your scenario that they're talking here about a virus
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    | text      = We're talking about a plague a pandemic is and that will that maybe will come over from the animals, but it's very on its
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    | text      = It's microscopic dangerous destructive. Maybe that's the fourth writer, right?
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    | text      = Maybe it's a weaponized version of Ebola or something like that, but very quickly. Did you ever see the movie?
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    | text      = I am legend with Will Smith
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    | text      = All right, so a pandemic I like to use visual for people so real quick
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    | text      = That's the connection they all think that sci-fi is real so
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    | text      = Sci-fi is nothing but the dreams of men dead
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    | text      = Sci-fi is the dreams of men they all deal with sci-fi as like a documentary as opposed to
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    | text      = elucidating
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    | text      = Trends that are part of the human condition like that sort of like yeah those sorts of things like if you look at
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    | text      = What if instead of metaphor or allegory everything was just true? Oh, man, should be weird shit would be weird
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    | text      = Also, it's fucking fascinating that Alex Jones has also very clearly misrepresented the same movie
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    | text      = So now wait, so he's talking about the one with Will Smith right 100% dude, that's disappointing fucking
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    | text      = He's old enough to know that Vincent Price
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    | text      = Crushed that role. It's a price too gay for him to talk about
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    | text      = So now this they're coming from all over the place so that was
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    | text      = That was Paul Lin somewhere in between yes, too, but dude this
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    | text      = Where he goes with this?
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    | text      = Exegesis of I am legend is very worth it
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    | text      = Okay, people understand a pandemic breaks out on the earth, right?
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    | text      = Yeah wipes out almost all life on earth, but there is one guy totally
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    | text      = For for reasons that are unknown his blood is naturally immune
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    | text      = To the unknown reasons and so he sets himself up inside of a house, and he's been there working
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    | text      = He's trying to capture these zombie like beings and trying to create a cure right for this
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    | text      = Pandemic, but well by the end of the movie. He does you find out. That's why he's a legend
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    | text      = He's the only guy on earth whose blood is naturally immune now. Let's take that back to the antichrist for a moment
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    | text      = No, we know that the antichrist is the antithesis of Jesus right Jesus was the son of God
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    | text      = He is the son of perdition the son of the devil Jesus worked miracles. He works miracles Jesus rose from the dead
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    | text      = He receives a deadly head wound in all the world marvels right and people have created a whole list of how he is the
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    | text      = Antithetical his dog doesn't right. Well, imagine this Jesus also said that unless you eat of my flesh
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    | text      = And drink of my blood and partake in communion. You will have no part in me
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    | text      = Wouldn't it be just like the antichrist to create a situation where a pandemic is sweeping the world?
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    | text      = Hundreds of thousands of people are dying and there's only one guy on earth whose blood is
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    | text      = Naturally immune to this disease and it turns out to be the antichrist
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    | text      = Antichrist the mark of the beast the only way you can be cured from this disease is you have to literally partake in the form
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    | text      = of immunization
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    | text      = With the blood and flesh of the antichrist. It would be a satanic communion
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    | text      = I see one problem with this beyond the myriad of problems and that is the antichrist didn't say
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    | text      = partake of my flesh and my blood
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    | text      = Yeah, one guy did but wouldn't it be just like the antichrist if he did say that obviously that's
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    | text      = People need to drink your blood to survive
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    | text      = You just might be the antichrist the way he's working that metaphor is troubling because there's one guy who said that and that was Jesus
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    | text      = I love the idea of that being your theological argument. Wouldn't it be just like the antichrist?
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    | text      = That would be such an antichrist move to do to be just like the antichrist to get crucified for our sins
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    | text      = Oh, man, he is a fucking Sarah all the way
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    | text      = Wouldn't it just be like the antichrist to turn loaves and fishes into a multitude of loaves and fishes, you know
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    | text      = Just like the antichrist to raise Lazarus from the dead
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    | text      = Oh god, how fucking stupid is this higher long metaphor it's like in the middle of it
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    | text      = You're saying that God and Jesus is the one who's saying unless you take of my blood and my flesh
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    | text      = You will die and then you're like all the bad guys gonna fucking do that and I'm basing this on a metaphor
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    | text      = Goddamn will Smith move or more if you had actually read the fucking omega man
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    | text      = You would know that the reason that he is legend is because he's the evil guy
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    | text      = He's the bad guy, but that metaphor actually extends, right?
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    | text      = That would make far more sense than the dumb metaphor that he is
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    | text      = Well, of course because if you wanted to work in the idea that these zombies aren't really bloodthirsty
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    | text      = Zombies and they have and they're actually people they have community and they have they have relations and inner
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    | text      = Like they are only monsters in the mind of the person who?
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    | text      = Right views them as monster right then you might extrapolate that no immigrants
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    | text      = You might but but he could use that as a better metaphor from the I am legend omega man
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    | text      = Antichrist being the one who's trying to trick you into thinking that you aren't humans or whatever
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    | text      = Yeah, I'm a much better job with the actual text as a why are we always doing punch-up for these guys?
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    | text      = Well, cuz it's easy. It's not very bad. There's dumb
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    | text      = But I do love I do love so much that all of these people are just like
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    | text      = Have you ever seen the matrix exactly? Yeah, it's all that it's so much
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    | text      = Like I get it
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    | text      = movies are fun readings hard I
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    | text      = I do get that I struggle with it. I struggle with reading a lot
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    | text      = I love it. I sit there like the other night that Carter page
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    | text      = FISA one came out. Yeah, and I'm like
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    | text      = Man, this is a lot warrants are boring. This sucks warrants are boring. I'm sitting through there
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    | text      = Like I wish there was a movie I could compare this to yeah
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    | text      = I wish I could watch a movie and be like it's just like that. I don't know tinker tinker tinker soldier spy
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    | text      = That's a book
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    | text      = Movie yeah, I guess it was too
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    | text      = There's a lot of shortcuts and propaganda turns out yeah, they're pretty fun. Oh my god, so, I don't know we've learned I
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    | text      = Think idea I think we've
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    | text      = Thoroughly learned that
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    | text      = Chimeras are real man. Number one Chimeras are real also if you know Steve Quayle also all
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    | text      = Religions are real. Yes. There's a Jim Baker. There's just only one God, right?
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    | text      = The all the religions are real, but they're not God. Well, they don't capitalize the G right different. Yeah
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    | text      = Yeah, the earth is hollow. Absolutely. Um
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    | text      = Watch out for once again
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    | text      = Big theme amongst all these shows watch out for reptoid human humanoids sure sure
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    | text      = That's a bad they don't even get near that someone licks their lips run run
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    | text      = It's too close to you have chocolate on you fucking bail bail bail hard
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    | text      = What else what else?
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    | text      = It's easy to pretend that
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    | text      = Marketing campaigns are lore, right? Not hard when you don't look into anything
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    | text      = Also, the Apostles couldn't read God. It seems like 200,000 is too much for sinks. Oh big time
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    | text      = Yeah, although that house is huge. That's is big. There's a lot of six in there probably
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    | text      = But he's also full of shit. Imagine
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    | text      = Imagine the amount of wheelchair ramps you need to build for a house that big you have to have only federal
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    | text      = Regulation viral all the way around all the way up to the top to all the doors and the windows
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    | text      = That's just how that fire marshal works. And also because this is in 2015
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    | text      = We know from being in the the present that Laurie's house is open. He did get that
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    | text      = $200,000 what a shock what a show and the way if you like our show. Oh, no before we do that. What's that?
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    | text      = Thank you, Jonathan. We appreciate
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    | text      = Fantastic, I don't know if we hit all the things you hope we cover but
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    | text      = Weird a lot, um, we do appreciate it so much if you want more of our show folks go to knowledgefight.com
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    | text      = We're on Facebook
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    | text      = Indeed, you can go to iTunes download leave a review, you know all the stuff that podcasts have always said to you since podcast started
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    | text      = it's true and you know, just uh, I
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    | text      = Don't know. We're terrible at marketing if you want people to like our show tell them that we're actually named after two giants
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    | text      = We got
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    | text      = Flooded out knowledge by to knowledge. Yeah
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    | text      = To knowledge to fight is what we would call it each one teach 12 and then we'll have a decent
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    | text      = To his audience I will make you fighters of knowledge is what Jesus that's our new shirt each one teach 12
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    | text      = Very much, this has been a lot of fun Jordan
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    | text      = It's your turn God, there's there's so many but fucking I'm gonna have to go with you lying ass dumb
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    | text      = Motherfucker Tom Horne go fuck yourself
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    | text      = Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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    | text      = You know Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you
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