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    | title         = [[1031: An Unpleasant Sushi Date]]
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    | text      = Hey everybody.
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    | text      = Welcome back to knowledge fight.
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    | text      = I'd like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex
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    | text      = Oh indeed we are Dan.
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    | text      = What's up?
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    | text      = What's your bright spot today buddy?
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    | text      = My bright spot today is I'm seriously considering getting another tattoo.
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    | text      = Ooh.
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    | text      = We are the tat guys of course.
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    | text      = I like that.
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    | text      = And I've been thinking about it.
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    | text      = I feel the call.
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    | text      = I like it.
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    | text      = And so I have a couple ideas.
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    | text      = I have a couple ideas of things I think I'm going to get.
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    | text      = But I'm not so much.
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    | text      = I came to tattoos old.
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    | text      = And so I have like a need to mean something.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = It has to be something that I really love.
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    | text      = And I was trying to think of like what could I get that I will never be like wow that sucks.
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    | text      = This is garbage.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And I think the Kiko Man soy sauce logo.
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    | text      = I have never not loved that soy sauce.
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    | text      = It's the best.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = It's been a large part of my life.
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    | text      = I agree.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = And it stayed unchanged throughout that entire time period.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = And I've been disappointed by every other soy sauce.
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    | text      = That's true.
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    | text      = Every other like commercially available soy sauce.
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    | text      = I'm with you.
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    | text      = Maybe not like Kraft artisan soy sauce or whatever.
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    | text      = 100 percent.
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    | text      = But it's such a big difference between the next brand and Kiko Man.
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    | text      = I agree.
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    | text      = And so that means something to me.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And so I think I might get Kiko Man on my forearm.
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    | text      = I like it.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean you know I think it's cool.
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    | text      = But I also.
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    | text      = I think it's a good logo.
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    | text      = I have a jar right here.
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    | text      = I have a bottle on my desk.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Just in case.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And you notice that it has like this hexagonal border.
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    | text      = Mm hmm.
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    | text      = I was thinking like that kind of could be a repeating pattern.
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    | text      = And I was like I could get a whole sleeve of like.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Like a beehive.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Of Kiko Man logos.
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    | text      = That's fun.
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    | text      = I like that.
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    | text      = That sounds stupid.
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    | text      = That sounds too much.
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    | text      = But I'm.
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    | text      = The idea is percolating in my mind.
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    | text      = To.
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    | text      = To a certain level.
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    | text      = Every tattoo is stupid.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = You know.
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    | text      = So.
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    | text      = Fuck it.
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    | text      = You know.
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    | text      = I think a whole sleeve of Kiko Man logos might be.
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    | text      = Why not?
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    | text      = Why not?
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    | text      = What's gonna happen?
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    | text      = I might get a sponsorship.
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    | text      = What are you gonna lose a job?
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    | text      = So anyway.
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    | text      = I'm thinking about that and there may be some updates on that in the future.
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    | text      = I like it.
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    | text      = I like it.
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    | text      = But what about you?
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    | text      = What's your bright spot?
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    | text      = My bright spot is these new shoes.
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    | text      = Mm hmm.
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    | text      = My wife has purchased me new shoes because I don't know if you recall but about a week
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    | text      = and a half ago I was outside for the 20 minutes when a flash flood happened.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = And my shoes were ruined.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So I just didn't have any for a couple weeks as is my want.
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    | text      = And then my wife got me these for my birthday.
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    | text      = Hey how about that?
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    | text      = So yeah.
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    | text      = Thank you very much.
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    | text      = They're my first green shoe.
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    | text      = I have green shoes too.
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    | text      = Do you have green shoes?
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    | text      = Oh shit.
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    | text      = Look at that.
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    | text      = We both have green shoes.
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    | text      = Isn't that great?
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    | text      = I've never had anything but black or brown.
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    | text      = I swear.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I haven't either and I find it to be a tough adjustment.
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    | text      = Is it?
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    | text      = You have a blue jean on the green shoe.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = You wonder is this okay?
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    | text      = I have a...
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    | text      = It's a colors clashing that you're not used to.
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    | text      = I see it as camo and I don't even know my feet are there.
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    | text      = Hey.
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    | text      = Alright.
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    | text      = It's just more sidewalk in my head.
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    | text      = Well how are they inside?
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    | text      = They feel good?
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    | text      = Pretty good.
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    | text      = Pretty good.
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    | text      = Just got some insoles.
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    | text      = Nice and support.
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    | text      = Cause I got flat feet.
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    | text      = I have the flattest feet.
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    | text      = You're out of the army then.
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    | text      = It's creepy.
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    | text      = So yeah.
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    | text      = You fit great?
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    | text      = Nice.
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    | text      = Loving it.
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    | text      = Awesome.
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    | text      = Fantastic.
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    | text      = It was a different day but I too was caught in a flash flood deluge.
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    | text      = So you had had that experience and then you told me about it and then a couple days later
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    | text      = It was right after my birthday and to the point where I was like well I gotta get a
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    | text      = So I got a little cake.
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    | text      = Again I think that's a great move.
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    | text      = So Jordan today we have an episode to go over.
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    | text      = And we're gonna be talking about something a little bit off the beaten path.
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    | text      = We're gonna be talking about, see we did a Mystery Babylon episode on Monday.
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    | text      = And we gotta get back to our primary ding dong.
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    | text      = And so I was like we gotta get back to Alex.
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    | text      = But then I came across something that I feel like I can't believe I hadn't seen this before.
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    | text      = And maybe I had and I'd forgotten or something.
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    | text      = But it took over my brain a little bit.
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    | text      = And that is a 2003 sushi date that Joe Rogan and Alex Jones went on that was shot as bonus
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    | text      = features for a DVD.
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    | text      = And I'm sorry?
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = I'm sorry?
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    | text      = We're gonna be talking about the time that Alex and Joe Rogan went out for sushi.
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    | text      = Was this directed by Jim Jarmusch or something?
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    | text      = It was directed by Kevin Booth.
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    | text      = Sounds right.
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    | text      = Produced by Jarmusch.
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    | text      = There we go.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Like coffee and cigarettes with a little pee coda.
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    | text      = There is coffee involved.
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    | text      = They go to Starbucks after they get sushi.
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    | text      = But no cigarettes.
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    | text      = Anyway, this is, there's some really really important things that happen in this.
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    | text      = I believe you.
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    | text      = But also some very unimportant things.
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    | text      = And Joe Rogan seemed like a completely different person.
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    | text      = And we'll get down to business on all of this.
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    | text      = But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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    | text      = Ooh, that's a great idea.
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    | text      = So first, my husband brought me Swiss cheese Cheetos from Brazil, which I immediately recognized
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    | text      = as a sign to become a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you very much!
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    | text      = That sounds good.
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    | text      = Next, Tara is giving money to say hi to all the cats and dogs.
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    | text      = Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you very much!
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    | text      = Thank you!
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    | text      = And little titty baby John in Colorado for his 40th birthday, January 27th, 2024.
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    | text      = Whoops.
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    | text      = Happy birthday, you're now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you very much!
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    | text      = Thank you!
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    | text      = And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to happy baseball season
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    | text      = to Jordan from Cooperstown, New York, home of the Baseball Hall of Fame.
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    | text      = Show hey love all around!
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    | text      = Also hi Dan, much love from Matty.
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    | text      = Go Phillies!
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    | text      = Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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    | timestamp = 00:07:31.000
    | text      = Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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    | text      = Daddy shark!
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:07:34.480
    | text      = Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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    | timestamp = 00:07:35.920
    | text      = Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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    | text      = He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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    | text      = I don't want to hate black people.
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    | text      = I renounce Jesus Christ!
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    | text      = Thank you so much.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:07:47.680
    | text      = Thank you very much.
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    | text      = I know that Philly has the reputation of really bad fans.
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    | text      = Uh, sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Really aggressive, like, scary fans.
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    | text      = But fans from a certain perspective.
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    | text      = Yeah, but my experience of Philly fans outside of Philadelphia, you know, like people I've
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    | text      = met in Chicago who are like big Philadelphia people.
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    | text      = Sure, sure, sure.
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    | text      = They've all been wonderful.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = I think it's just being in Philadelphia.
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    | text      = I think there's something about, there's a when in Rome element to it, for sure.
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    | text      = I think that there's something about that city enables.
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    | timestamp = 00:08:21.439
    | text      = Here is where things are okay, and outside of here is where things are not okay.
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    | text      = It's like a smoking section.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Philly is essentially America's smoking section, I think.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So, here we go.
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    | text      = Let's talk about a sushi date.
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    | text      = Alright.
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    | text      = So, an under-discussed aspect of Alex's career, and something we've touched on a little bit
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    | text      = but never really gotten too much into, is his association with an outfit called Sacred
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    | text      = Cow Productions.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This is a company that started with Bill Hicks and his producing partner, Kevin Booth.
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    | text      = Through Sacred Cow, Booth distributed a ton of Hicks's content, including posthumously,
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    | text      = and then after Hicks had died, it took on the shape of like a collective of presumably
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    | text      = like-minded artists.
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    | text      = Kevin and Bill had met Alex while they were filming a documentary about Waco, and in 2000,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = before his rise to prominence with 9-11 Conspiracies, their company put out the best of Alex Jones'
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    | text      = VHS collection.
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    | text      = Then, in 2001, they released Joe Rogan's first comedy special, Live from the Belly of the
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    | timestamp = 00:09:22.580
    | text      = Beast.
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    | text      = This special is the one that features a cameo from Alex, and it includes the video where
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Alex and Joe put on Bush masks, and they dick around at the Texas Capitol, which seems to
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    | text      = be the only positive memory that Joe has of Alex that he can call to mind to justify why
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    | text      = they're friends.
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    | timestamp = 00:09:38.899
    | text      = That does sound correct.
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    | text      = I don't think that there's a grand conspiracy here, but we all need to recognize how incredibly
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    | text      = weird it is that 25 years ago, a dipshit from local access TV in Austin and the guy
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = from News Radio were part of the same media collective, and now they're two of the most
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    | timestamp = 00:09:56.019
    | text      = prominent media figures that have supported and cheer-led Donald Trump's elections in
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    | text      = 2016 and 2024, respectively.
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    | text      = I don't know if that means anything, but it's fucking crazy.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Also, Sacred Cow Productions offers a collection of videos and CDs that you can get from various
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    | text      = performers like Rogan, Alex, and Doug Stanhope.
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    | text      = If you go through their collection of stuff, it's like Bill Hicks, Doug Stanhope, Alex,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:10:24.639
    | text      = Rogan, and then some tapes called No Bra at Mardi Gras.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:29.840
    | text      = Oh my God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:31.679
    | text      = Yeah, they got a knockoff Girls Gone Wild.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:34.840
    | text      = Girls Gone Wild knockoff, great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:36.600
    | text      = And a bunch of real high-minded fuck the man kind of stand-ups.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:10:41.080
    | text      = You know what my problem with Girls Gone Wild was?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:43.679
    | text      = There weren't enough copycats around.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Exploiting women, that's fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:47.919
    | text      = Of course, everybody likes that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:49.759
    | text      = We needed more of it.
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    | timestamp = 00:10:51.080
    | text      = That's great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:52.080
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:10:53.080
    | text      = My buddies ordered something off of a late night infomercial called Girls Going Crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:10:59.639
    | text      = That's a true crime documentary.
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    | text      = And that led us to, I think they must have just sent us more tapes or something, because
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:11:07.759
    | text      = there was one called The Freak Box.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:09.799
    | text      = No, no, no, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:11:12.080
    | text      = I don't want to open The Freak Box.
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    | timestamp = 00:11:13.960
    | text      = What they would do, so these people, this company.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:19.240
    | text      = These fucking people.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:20.399
    | text      = They put a makeshift box outside a bar and then put a video camera in it and people could
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    | timestamp = 00:11:28.159
    | text      = go in and do whatever.
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    | timestamp = 00:11:29.960
    | text      = Oh my God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:31.440
    | text      = It was very disappointing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, that does sound right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:11:34.080
    | text      = So in 2003, Kevin Booth was working on a documentary about the war on drugs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:11:39.279
    | text      = And part of that was going out to LA to interview Rogan, which is a no brainer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:11:43.600
    | text      = That dude loves drugs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:44.600
    | text      = You're going to get a good interview out of him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = For some reason, Alex came along and Kevin decided to record what I would describe as
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:11:51.200
    | text      = a very awkward sushi date between those two men.
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    | timestamp = 00:11:55.720
    | text      = And we thankfully have this recorded for posterity because I think it tells you a lot about their
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    | text      = relationship.
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    | timestamp = 00:12:05.320
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 00:12:06.399
    | text      = Yeah, you know, sometimes, sometimes when you're looking at history, there's just this
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:12:13.559
    | text      = weird shit happens that winds up altering the course of the universe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:12:18.799
    | text      = You know, like the the Serbians who assassinated Kaiser Wilhelm, you know, like if you read
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    | text      = their story, you're like, no way do these guys change the universe.
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    | text      = These guys are kind of bumbling boobs.
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    | text      = And this sushi date, you would not expect that we would be where we are in 2025.
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    | text      = That's for sure.
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    | text      = How about that?
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    | text      = Also, I don't know if Alex knows how to use chopsticks.
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    | text      = That I, I, I would strongly suggest he does.
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    | text      = He gestures well with them.
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    | text      = I will I will give him that much.
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    | text      = I would almost say that if I were Alex, I would not learn how to use chopsticks on principle.
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    | text      = You know?
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    | text      = Well, I mean, I think that he would say something about his sister being Korean adopted.
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    | text      = So there you go.
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    | text      = So we start in the middle, essentially.
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    | text      = having.
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    | text      = And Joe is talking about like, why weed is illegal, man.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = They're all just afraid of hemp.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = And the only reason why most of these drugs are illegal anyways, because we can't control
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    | text      = Your marijuana is illegal now because they can't tax it.
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    | text      = Maybe because they can't stop you from growing it.
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    | text      = It's illegal now because you can't grow it.
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    | text      = Well, George Washington grew it.
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    | text      = Well, we all know the whole deal behind it.
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    | text      = The reason why it was made illegal in the first place is because they came up with a
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    | text      = method of producing pulp from hemp that was much more efficient.
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    | text      = The way they used to do it back when hemp was a viable crop and it was used by farmers
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    | text      = all across the country when they made paper out of it, when they made clothing out of
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    | text      = It was all collected by slaves and it was all processed by slaves, but that's not very
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    | text      = So hemp died off and cotton took hold.
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    | text      = Now in the 1930s, in the cover of Popular Science magazine, they had an article that
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    | text      = said hemp, the new billion dollar crop.
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    | text      = And they were talking about how this new, I think it was called the de-corticator.
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    | text      = I forget what it's called, but it was a new machine that they had invented that made it
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    | text      = much more efficient to process the pulp.
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    | text      = And they were going to make superior paper products, superior cloth.
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    | text      = It was also when DuPont came up with a chemical composition for nylon.
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    | text      = Now what they did was, William Randolph Hearst, not only did he own newspapers, he also owned
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    | text      = paper plants where he made paper.
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    | text      = And if hemp is a superior paper and everyone's using hemp, he would have had to transfer
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    | text      = all of his lumber yards and all of his paper plants to processing hemp.
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    | text      = That would have cost millions of dollars.
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    | text      = So what did they do?
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    | text      = Instead they went after the other thing that hemp does.
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    | text      = It actually intoxicates you.
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    | text      = And they financed, well, you have one right to ask.
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    | text      = On fear.
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    | text      = They did it based on fear.
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    | text      = They said Mexicans and blacks are smoking marijuana.
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    | text      = They called it the slang term.
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    | text      = They didn't call it cannabis.
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    | text      = They didn't call it hemp.
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    | text      = They didn't call it things that people would be familiar with.
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    | text      = They called it the slang that Mexicans used.
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    | text      = There's a drug called marijuana and these people are smoking it and they want to rape
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    | text      = white women.
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    | text      = And they started passing laws.
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    | text      = They made films where you smoke your turban.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = I've got all of them.
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    | text      = I've got a lot of them.
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    | text      = I've got a lot of them.
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    | text      = I've got a bunch of them.
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    | text      = And they're fantastic.
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    | text      = They're brilliantly stupid.
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    | text      = So what Joe is expressing here is very interesting because a lot of it's true but some of it
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    | text      = is also a strong argument against Alex's fundamental worldview.
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    | text      = It's absolutely correct that the war on drugs and the criminalization of weed were political
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    | text      = and specifically racist developments in our country.
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    | text      = Nixon's domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman laid it out quite explicitly in an interview
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    | text      = he did with Harper's in 1994.
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    | text      = Quote, the Nixon campaign in 1968 and the White House after that had two enemies, the
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    | text      = anti-war left and black people.
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    | text      = You understand what I'm saying.
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    | text      = We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black.
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    | text      = But by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and the blacks with
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    | text      = heroin and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities.
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    | text      = We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings and vilify
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = them night after night on the evening news.
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    | text      = Did we know we were lying about drugs?
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    | text      = Of course we did.
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    | text      = A great deal of the hysteria around drugs comes down to this type of exploitation, like
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    | text      = how the 1875 anti-opium laws in San Francisco were largely a covert effort at attacking
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    | text      = the growing Chinese immigrant population there.
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    | text      = It's actually pretty funny to think about how much of the stuff we see about fentanyl
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    | text      = is rooted in this same motivation and how deeply Joe is invested in creating propaganda
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    | text      = around that issue that really is the modern day equivalent to all those reefer madness
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    | text      = films he rightfully mocked in this 2003 rant.
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    | text      = He's become the thing he always knew was stupid.
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    | text      = This whole part about hemp being a magic product and threatening William Randolph Hearst's
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    | text      = paper factories, that's a little bit less historically based, but it might be Joe trying
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    | text      = to come up with a larger financial explanation for why certain actions in history were taken
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    | text      = as a way to absolve the past of being so damn racist.
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    | text      = Hemp is a versatile crop, and even though Joe overstates how it could replace so many
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    | text      = other markets, it did get an unfair shake in terms of the whole market.
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    | text      = A lot of that is due less to Hearst's machinations and has more to do with the history of industrial
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    | text      = hemp production in the United States.
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    | text      = There was some domestic production, but it was largely propped up by tariffs on importing
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    | text      = bast fibers from other countries.
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    | text      = That tariff was dropped in 1872, and that had a crushing effect on the US hemp production,
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    | text      = so you could just get other shit from other countries at the same or lesser price.
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    | text      = Yeah, it's cheaper.
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    | text      = But in the later 1800s and into the early 1900s, a huge opportunity arose with the invention
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    | text      = of the self-binding harvester.
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    | text      = Now farmers needed shitloads of high quality twine to use in their binding machines, and
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    | text      = hemp was perfect for that.
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    | text      = This led to the United States Department of Agriculture exploring ways to build up the
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    | text      = production of American hemp.
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    | text      = There was promise, and there was some breeding of strains that was really showing a lot of
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    | text      = potential, but then the Great Depression came and really shifted everyone's priorities about
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    | text      = land usage, and hemp became not really as important anymore.
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    | text      = Imported, cheaper, possibly lower quality fibers were fine in this context, and the
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    | text      = bottom more or less fell out of the building of the industrial hemp base.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There were attempts at making hemp a wider-grown crop, but the timing was just really bad for
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    | text      = it.
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    | text      = It never really made a comeback before the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 was imposed, and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = racist attitudes and stigma toward weed rubbed off on hemp.
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    | text      = It didn't help that DuPont had developed nylon in the late 30s, but Joe doesn't have a basis
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    | text      = for claiming that efforts to prop up big nylon were behind the diminishing of hemp.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = The popular science article that Joe is referencing is actually from Popular Mechanics, and it's
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    | text      = about the promise of a new machine that he got the name right.
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    | text      = It was the Decorticator.
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    | text      = This machine solved the problem of hemp being far more labor-intensive to process than other
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    | text      = fibers that are comparable, but it wasn't a miracle solution.
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    | text      = Even this article that Joe is referencing says, quote, One obstacle to the onward march
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    | text      = of hemp is the reluctance of farmers to try new crops.
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    | text      = The problem is complicated by the need for proper equipment at a reasonable distance
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    | text      = from the farm.
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    | text      = The machine cannot be operated profitably unless there's enough acreage within driving
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    | text      = range, and farmers cannot find a profitable market unless there's machinery to handle
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    | text      = the crop.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This headline that Joe remembers is from an article that's discussing the potential gains
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    | text      = that could come from industrial hemp production replacing our reliance on foreign fibers.
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    | text      = Even in that body of the article, they discuss how it's not a sure thing.
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    | text      = This machine did not live up to the promises that were imagined.
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    | text      = The bigger picture here is that a belief that DuPont and Hurst not liking hemp leading to
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    | text      = hemp being crushed despite it being a miracle crop requires a belief that the free market
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    | text      = doesn't exist.
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    | text      = That might be okay for Joe in 2003, but not Alex.
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    | text      = He can't possibly incorporate this into his strong defense of laissez-faire capitalist
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    | text      = kind of attitudes.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, you would have to expand your definition of the market to include existence, all existence.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:20:38.539
    | text      = The free market is fine because these guys can steal from you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh, is that part of the free market?
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    | text      = So much of the defense of the idea of like government not intervening and stuff and it
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    | text      = has to do with like the market will figure it out.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = You know, like, and no, it won't.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | timestamp = 00:20:55.259
    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = If you believe that DuPont being really rich and having this thing that the free market
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    | text      = doesn't sort this out.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I mean, it would have to be in order for the free market to actually sort something like
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    | text      = this out, there would have to be no laws.
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    | text      = You know what I mean?
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    | text      = Like no laws.
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    | text      = You're raising your eyebrows at me.
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    | text      = Like old west kind of, oh, did you take something from us?
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    | text      = You know what I'm saying?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Well, I mean, that's the libertarian fantasy, right?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = That's pretty much it.
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    | text      = If you're rich enough, you can have an army.
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    | text      = I just remember, and I think this is what happened.
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    | text      = Maybe if we were going to pinpoint something that happened, it was this.
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    | text      = The only reason you had to listen to people like Joe talk was because you had a financial
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    | text      = incentive to buy the drugs from them that you wanted.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You know?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And now people just do it for free.
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    | text      = Well, yeah.
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    | text      = But I think that Joe also, like at this point, has a little bit of, like he has a gift of
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = He has momentum to the things he's saying.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = He has, there's a likability in the way that he delivers himself and it feels like this
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    | text      = is a fucking fun guy.
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    | text      = It does.
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    | text      = This is a cool guy.
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    | text      = I wouldn't mind hanging out with him.
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    | text      = I, until-
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    | text      = And he's going to sell me a bag.
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    | text      = Great.
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    | text      = And then I'll leave.
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    | text      = It's kind of the idea.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So they get to discussing how, you know, you were raising your eyebrows and saying there
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    | text      = should be no laws.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = I'm not saying that.
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    | text      = I'm just saying if you want things to be, oh.
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    | text      = They think that there should only be laws about like, you can't hurt people.
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    | text      = Yeah, that sounds right.
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    | text      = You made a point that it was really good about how if it doesn't hurt somebody and it's,
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    | text      = you know, your body, but as soon as they try to hurt you, then it is your business.
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    | text      = But here's the deal.
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    | text      = Making the drugs illegal drives up the price of the black market and makes it a violent
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    | text      = industry.
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    | text      = And by making it illegal, nine out of ten home invasions are some drug addict.
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    | text      = So right there, making it illegal is causing most our crime.
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    | text      = It is hurting us.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = That's, you can't argue that.
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    | text      = You know, and the people who argue it, they say, this is what they say, well, you know
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    | text      = what, alcohol may be worse, but we don't need more drugs.
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    | text      = This society needs less drugs.
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    | text      = Okay, well, let's make alcohol illegal too then, fucker.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know, we tried that already and it didn't work.
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    | text      = You know why?
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    | text      = Because too many Republicans and too many fucking Congressmen like alcohol.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You know, it's a good drink for someone who's trying to control society.
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    | text      = It's a drink that pumps up your ego.
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    | text      = It's a drink that gives you a distorted perception of reality.
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    | text      = And it's not a drink that offers any insight whatsoever.
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    | text      = It's not a drug that gives you any enlightenment.
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    | text      = It's not a drug that helps you in any way, shape or form.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's a drug that gives you a pumped up ego and a very narrow view of the world.
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    | text      = Whereas other drugs, you're going to eat my food, dude?
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    | text      = You're going to dig into my food, motherfucker?
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    | text      = I see what you're doing.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You got a combination of them?
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    | text      = No, that's all my shit.
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    | text      = That's all yours?
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    | text      = That's all my sashimi.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = What did you order?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I got a drink from Kevin Booth who's trying to eat his sashimi.
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    | text      = I'm going to leave aside Alex's statistics because they're made up.
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    | text      = But I want to follow the train of thought that he's putting forth.
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    | text      = If something doesn't hurt anyone, there shouldn't be a law against it.
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    | text      = So drugs should be legal.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Further, the prohibition of drugs has made drugs more expensive and turned them into
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = a huge illegal market, which leads to most of the crime in the country.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:24:05.640
    | text      = If that prohibition wasn't there, then the drugs would be legal.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That crime wouldn't exist.
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    | text      = I wanted to bring focus to this because it's a great example of some shit that Alex never
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    | text      = believed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He always supported the opposite position on, but he was smart enough to know early
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = in his career that the only way he wasn't going to be written off as just another fucking
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    | timestamp = 00:24:24.279
    | text      = limbaugh was to have positions like this that appealed to a more left-leaning audience.
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    | text      = This is really savvy on his part, the presenting himself this way.
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    | text      = And the interview is dripping in that energy of him trying to make himself think, I'm not
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    | text      = like all those other Republicans that you hate.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm not even a Republican.
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    | text      = Hey, come on, man.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm cool.
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    | text      = Come on, Joe.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, you know, there is something to be said about the limbaugh who just says it's okay
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    | text      = to do drugs being perceived as infinitely less racist.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like right out the gate, just being like, it's okay to do drugs because of America associating
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    | text      = drugs with racism, essentially from the beginning.
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But I think Joe is the one who's more bringing that part up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Alex is saying that the prohibition leads to crime.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There's a less racism-based justification for why the war on drugs is bad.
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    | text      = But yeah, I think that you can, you know, the never-Trump Republicans have an outsized
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    | text      = coolness to them in a lot of people's minds because they have one right opinion.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = You know, Ron Paul seemed fucking awesome to a lot of people because he was against
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    | text      = war and liked weed.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:25:37.119
    | text      = It's, it's, uh, people, people give people a lot of credit for things.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There is a generous willingness to forgive anything so long as you are on my team in
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    | timestamp = 00:25:48.119
    | text      = this moment.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:25:49.119
    | text      = I think it's a Grinch syndrome.
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    | text      = Mm.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:25:52.720
    | text      = Interesting.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:25:53.720
    | text      = So because you gave the presents back, your heart grew three sizes instead of because
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:25:58.359
    | text      = I gave the presents back, I will have 10 times more presents next year.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We like to, yeah, we like to treat all these people like the Grinch.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:04.759
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So, um, you know, if, if you can, you know, it doesn't hurt anybody.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:10.240
    | text      = Adults should be able to do whatever they want.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:12.119
    | text      = Look, the bottom line is no, you're an adult.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:16.480
    | text      = You're an adult.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm an adult.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:18.480
    | text      = Who am I to tell you what you can't do with your life?
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    | timestamp = 00:26:22.279
    | text      = Now if you drive around fucked up on heroin, that's another thing.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You drive around fucked up on heroin and you crash into, you should have your driving privileges
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    | text      = revoked.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:32.279
    | text      = You should be penalized.
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    | text      = I absolutely agree with you.
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    | text      = That sounds like a libertarian view.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:35.799
    | text      = It is a libertarian view.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:36.799
    | text      = The neutral aggression of Mac Truce.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:38.799
    | text      = Just don't hurt me and I won't hurt you.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:40.799
    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:41.799
    | text      = And the law can't get involved unless you're accurately hurt somebody.
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    | timestamp = 00:26:42.799
    | text      = That's what society is, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:43.799
    | text      = Society is a bunch of people living together in cooperation.
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    | text      = The only thing we should stop is things that hurt other people for no reason.
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    | timestamp = 00:26:51.759
    | text      = So Joe needs to clarify what his position is here because it makes a big difference.
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    | text      = Does he believe that you can only be punished if you drive on heroin and it leads to a crash?
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    | text      = Or does he believe that society understands that driving on heroin is dangerous so it
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:06.160
    | text      = has the right to place prohibitions on doing it to the point where even if you don't crash
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:10.960
    | text      = and hurt someone, you should be arrested if you're caught driving on heroin?
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    | text      = This is an important distinction since one just has the belief in consequences being
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    | text      = given for actual harm done.
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    | text      = The other involves a belief that the state has a responsibility to protect its people
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = from very obvious potential harms like someone driving on heroin.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = If he believes the prior, then he shouldn't believe that driving on heroin matters.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's just illegal to hurt someone in a car crash.
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    | text      = If he believes the latter, then his view isn't really all that libertarian at all.
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    | text      = And I don't think they care to parse this.
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    | text      = Also, if you watch the video of this, Alex does not give a single shit about what Joe
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    | text      = is saying and the two of them really don't feel like they're that close at all.
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    | text      = That makes sense.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:54.680
    | text      = There's a very, there's a tenseness.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There's always, I love, I love when somebody is like, well, these things are obvious.
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    | text      = If you do this, you do this.
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    | timestamp = 00:28:02.940
    | text      = And they don't recognize that if you follow that train of logic through the interconnectedness
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    | text      = of all things that we might consider hurt, quote unquote, then you're going to get literally
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    | text      = our current justice system.
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    | text      = You're going to get a lot of things that are very similar.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It's just a bunch of like, well, in this case, maybe we do a little bit of, it's like twisting
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    | text      = dials and shit instead of being like you, until something hurts somebody you don't even
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    | text      = know.
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    | text      = And it could be 15 steps down along the line.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = You know, like the question that I would ask Joe in this, in this instance, first I would
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    | text      = ask him like that clarifying question.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = And then I would ask, should I be allowed to build a bomb?
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Like in my apartment building, should I be able to?
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    | text      = I'm not hurting anybody.
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    | text      = I'm potentially blowing up my neighbor's houses potentially.
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    | text      = But should I be punished in advance for this possible thing that might happen?
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    | text      = No, you should only be punished if the bomb goes off.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I mean, I'm wearing these shoes, right?
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    | text      = They were purchased or they were made by slave labor.
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    | text      = By creating the demand for shoes, am I then enabling slave labor?
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    | text      = What is harm or hurt and how far do you avoid responsibility for it?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You know, it's absurd.
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    | text      = It's not well delineated here.
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    | text      = But I think that Joe has a decent perspective and that is largely that strength and power
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    | text      = within society is disproportionate.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = And one of the things about creating a culture together in a society is that we don't just
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    | text      = let strength determine who has rights and what gets done.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And then this, this leads to something crazy.
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    | text      = Look, it's an alpha male dominated world, but we don't want the biggest, strongest people
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    | text      = to run the world.
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    | text      = So what do we do?
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    | text      = We protect ourselves from being bullied.
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    | text      = We protect ourselves from people doing bad things to other people.
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    | text      = And that's the only laws that should be applicable.
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    | text      = Those are the only laws that should exist in the book.
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    | text      = That's it.
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    | text      = It's the laws that protect people from hurting you.
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    | text      = That's it.
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    | text      = Someone sitting at home smoking a joint isn't hurting anybody.
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    | text      = And at the same time, you know, parents will throw their kid in jail and call the cops
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    | text      = on them for a joint of marijuana.
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    | text      = But then they'll tell them, take your Ritalin and Prozac, which is a thousand times more
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    | text      = toxic.
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    | text      = Well, you know what, man, people are stupid and they're ignorant and our society doesn't
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    | text      = help it.
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    | text      = It's a material based society.
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    | text      = People want to get material goods and want to get material items.
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    | text      = They want to get shiny objects and a brand new Lexus and a bigger house than their neighbor.
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    | text      = And that's what they work for.
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    | text      = And when you're working, you're not thinking about life.
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    | text      = You're not being objective.
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    | text      = You're not being introspective, not breaking down the world while you're stuck in a fucking
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    | text      = cubicle.
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    | text      = All you're doing is working.
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    | text      = You're a little slave for objects.
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    | text      = You get home and you're tired and your fucking kids are yapping and little Johnny's been
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    | text      = God damn it, Johnny, what are you doing?
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    | text      = Meanwhile, that joint might help that little motherfucker to stop becoming you.
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    | text      = That joint, that one joint might make him look at his parents and go, oh my God, my
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    | text      = parents are living in a fucking trap.
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    | text      = They're trapped in a cage.
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    | text      = They live in the matrix.
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    | text      = Like they don't even realize what they're doing.
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    | text      = One day they're going to die and they're going to be old and used up and they'll have gotten
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    | text      = nothing out of life.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Family trips and a fucking softball game every month.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = What is their life?
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    | text      = It's nothing.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's non-existent.
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    | text      = Those are amazing points.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I know you need to eat.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's being a radio host.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Alex is two totally different guys.
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    | text      = This is Alex.
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    | text      = That's my friend.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Who's a very interesting guy.
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    | text      = And then Alex turns it on like black helicopters will come and take your babies.
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    | text      = And there's Joe, one guy, cool guy.
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    | text      = But Joe, I try to be the same me all the time, but I do.
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    | text      = I do lie a little bit.
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    | text      = I'm not my fear factor.
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    | text      = I actually do pretend to be a different person.
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    | text      = Otherwise I would run away screaming.
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    | text      = I tell you, uh, Joe.
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    | text      = So I think that moment is really telling.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Alex is two different people.
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    | text      = The guy who's Joe's friend and the guy who turns it on to rant about conspiracy shit
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    | text      = like black helicopters.
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    | text      = This is such a cutting thing for Joe to say.
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    | text      = And I really think it sums up the vibe that you get if you watch this whole thing.
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    | text      = Joe wants Alex to drop the act.
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    | text      = He's supposed to be getting interviewed for Kevin Booth's drug war documentary and Alex
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    | text      = has inserted himself into things as a kind of host.
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    | text      = But Joe seems like he's not able to be himself around that version of Alex.
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    | text      = He's uncomfortable.
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    | text      = His body language is very standoffish and there's multiple times that he makes these
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    | text      = kinds of digs at Alex to the camera, talking directly to the audience or Kevin, probably
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    | text      = Kevin.
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    | timestamp = 00:32:37.579
    | text      = Sure, sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's a serious discomfort Joe has with being involved with Alex's character.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = On some level, he has to know that Alex hates what he's saying.
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    | text      = It's all good to believe in human potential and resent the drudgery of wage slavery, but
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    | text      = Joe is going a bit further than that.
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    | text      = He's saying that like family vacations and recreational sports leagues are meaningless,
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    | text      = which Alex should see as an attack on the family unit.
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    | text      = Joe is saying that like having kids work in your job and being satisfied by that means
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    | text      = that there's something wrong with you that would probably be solved by smoking a joint
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    | text      = and expanding your mind.
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    | text      = On a fundamental level, this is counter to Alex's belief system, but Joe is one of the
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    | text      = only celebrities who will hang out with Alex in 2003, so he just lets it stand and say
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    | text      = that Joe's making great points.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:23.380
    | text      = This is sad.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 00:33:25.380
    | text      = I, yeah.
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    | text      = You know, there is the element of freak out the squares that has remained as like a through
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    | text      = line throughout Joe's career.
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    | text      = You know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:36.880
    | text      = That was a really cool guy in the late nineties.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, I mean, but even, even to now, it is just that the people who are squares have
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    | text      = adopted the language of freak out the squares, you know, like they're all look at how freaking
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = and look how scared you are of us.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:53.359
    | text      = Nobody's scared.
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    | timestamp = 00:33:54.359
    | text      = You just suck.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:55.359
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:56.359
    | text      = It's like the Paul Joseph Watson's whole like conservatism is the new punk rock.
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    | timestamp = 00:34:00.200
    | text      = No, it's not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:34:01.200
    | text      = No, it is just.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:03.240
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:04.240
    | text      = You've tricked yourself into thinking that this character is that.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:07.839
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like the late nineties guy who's ranting about drugs and expanding a mind to don't be a wage
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    | text      = slave.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:15.039
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:16.039
    | text      = Joe feels like there's some kind of countercultural thing that he's doing now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's the evolution of this probably.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:22.320
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:23.320
    | text      = But it's not, it's just a, it's a, it's a full on betrayal of whatever he was pretending
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:27.280
    | text      = to be back then.
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    | text      = I mean, it is because what this is, what he is representing is not what he thinks he's
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:34:34.719
    | text      = repre, he thinks he's representing a principled stance.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:37.559
    | text      = And what he's really representing is an existence that defines itself in opposition to whatever
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:43.079
    | text      = it perceives though the greater culture to appreciate.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:46.599
    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:47.599
    | text      = You know, and that's valuable for its own sake.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:49.639
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:50.639
    | text      = It doesn't matter what I'm saying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:52.079
    | text      = I am in opposition.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:53.480
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:54.480
    | text      = There's an immaturity to that position, but it's kind of fun immaturity.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:57.840
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = For a younger person in the nineties.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = When you're immature.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:01.840
    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:02.840
    | text      = Although later he does say that he's 36 and that shocked me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:05.559
    | text      = Oh boy, that is rough.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:06.559
    | text      = In 2003, I mean, he does look good for the, seems like he's a lot younger than he is.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:11.880
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:12.880
    | text      = Uh, but, but it's still, it, you know, he's the guy from Fear Factor.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:15.880
    | text      = He's the guy from News Radio.
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    | text      = Like that kind of immaturity is, is that now he's like in his fifties.
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    | text      = He's too old.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = You're too old for this.
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    | text      = I'm too old for this.
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    | text      = I don't want freak out the squares from my, uh, right wing dumb shit, uh, conspiracy podcaster.
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    | text      = You can be in Fugazi for four to six years.
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    | text      = The end.
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    | text      = Then you got to grow up.
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    | text      = So Joe has some interesting political positions that he expresses in this conversation.
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    | text      = They, they're still a fucking mess.
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    | text      = The people at the highest levels of government are still slaves to government.
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    | text      = I mean, it's, it's really a bureaucracy.
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    | text      = It's a machine.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = It's completely out of control.
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    | text      = It's such a, it's such a huge monster right now.
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    | text      = It's so completely out of control.
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    | text      = There's no, how are you going to control it?
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    | text      = What are you going to do about it?
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    | text      = How are you ever going to change it?
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    | text      = It's so fucked up.
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    | text      = Just the electoral college.
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    | text      = How about that?
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    | text      = How about that?
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    | text      = It just makes you feel so helpless about voting.
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    | text      = You know, just the, the, the way they process one man, one vote doesn't even exist.
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    | text      = Look, our whole system is fuck.
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    | text      = The whole idea that the commission for presidential debates is a privately funded institution.
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    | text      = So that means the people that are debating on television that are, that are running for
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    | text      = president that that debate is being funded by the very people who will benefit from only
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    | text      = certain people being in office.
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    | text      = Well, Ralph Nader was on the list to speak and they just decided last minute.
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    | text      = They changed it to 15% where it was 5% before, but then Ross Perot got it.
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    | text      = It used to be 5% of the popular vote in the polls.
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    | text      = And then you got to think who the fuck votes in the polls.
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    | text      = You have to be an idiot to vote in the polls.
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    | text      = And anyway, you have to be so deep into the whole thing.
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    | text      = I've never been called for a poll.
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    | text      = Oh.
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    | text      = Have you?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = I don't even know if they exist.
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    | text      = They might not exist.
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    | text      = They might be all fake, man.
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    | text      = Yeah, who knows?
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    | text      = So I feel like Joe might not really be all that interested in the clear solution to these
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    | text      = two problems anymore, which would be abolishing the electoral college and public financing
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    | text      = of political campaigns.
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    | text      = Yeah, it seems obvious.
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    | text      = In this election cycle, he arguably made millions of dollars in campaign contributions to Trump
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    | text      = by having him advance on his show.
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    | text      = And he's buddied up with Elon, who gave Trump hundreds of millions of dollars for the election.
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    | text      = Whatever concern he's expressing about the Commission for Presidential Debates being
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    | text      = a private company, that's not part of his politics anymore at all.
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    | text      = The Commission on Presidential Debates, it started in 1987.
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    | text      = And prior to that, the presidential debates were sponsored by the League of Women Voters.
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    | text      = Prior to JFK and Nixon in 1960, there weren't televised debates.
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    | text      = And after Nixon came off so bad in that one, there weren't big debates until 1976.
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    | text      = There was a 16-year lull.
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    | text      = The CPD is a nonprofit, and it was originally run by co-chairs who were respectively the
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    | text      = heads of the Democratic and Republican parties.
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    | text      = It was never meant to include third-party candidates, and the coordination between the
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    | text      = two parties actually led to the League of Women Voters putting out a press release in
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    | text      = 1988, saying, quote, it has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim
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    | text      = to add debates to their list of campaign trail charades, devoid of substance, spontaneity,
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    | text      = and honest answers to tough questions.
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    | text      = The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American
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    | text      = public.
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    | text      = Wow, it's a good thing things have gotten a lot better since then.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = So the H.W. Bush and Dukakis campaigns had agreed to a bunch of demands that they would
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    | text      = make of the League, including the right to choose who could ask questions and the, quote,
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    | text      = composition of the audience.
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    | text      = The League said fuck off, and since then the Commission on Presidential Debates has sponsored
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    | text      = the events until 2024, when Biden and Trump decided that they didn't want to play along
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    | text      = with the CPD, and now it's probably dead in the water.
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    | text      = It's the kind of bullshit that third-party candidates aren't really included, but the
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    | text      = CPD themselves makes a fairly decent point about it in their about page on their website.
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    | text      = Quote, candidates for federal office are not required to debate.
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    | text      = History teaches that it's speculative at best to assume that the leading candidates would
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    | text      = agree to share the stage with candidates enjoying only scant public support.
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    | text      = They just kind of get to arbitrarily decide who's a leading candidate, but they're also
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    | text      = right.
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    | text      = Political campaigns are a lot about appearances, so you don't want to look like a loser debating
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    | text      = someone who's polling at 6% when you're like at 45.
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    | text      = They make it clear that, quote, the CPD's debates are not intended to serve as a springboard
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    | text      = for a candidate with only scant public support.
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    | text      = They didn't change their standards to 15% because of Ross Perot.
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    | text      = They just formalized that as a polling threshold in 2000, justified by an argument that this
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    | text      = was the threshold that the League of Women Voters used previously.
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    | text      = Before 2000, they didn't let people in who polled over 5%, and if you go to their website,
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    | text      = you can find a long list of the people who were on their advisory panel for the pre-2000
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    | text      = debates and the process they followed.
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    | text      = It was a lot of discussion about what makes a leading candidate who is relevant, who could
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    | text      = conceivably win, and matters in terms of the public conversation.
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    | text      = It's not about the 5 or 15% threshold.
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    | text      = I mean, ultimately, it's about fighting an old man.
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    | text      = Either I get my ass kicked by an old man, that's no good, or I beat the shit out of
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    | text      = an old man, that's no good.
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    | text      = So why would I debate somebody with 5%?
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    | text      = That's ridiculous.
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    | text      = Yeah, and I think that if you have too loose of standards, you're gonna fuck around and
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    | text      = end up with David Duke making a decent case for why he deserves to be on that stage.
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    | text      = And I think that's a problem.
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    | text      = Do you think Ye couldn't have maybe tried to force something if you were required to
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    | text      = have people who polled over 5% on the debates?
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    | text      = The obvious reason I would have to dispute that would just be, yeah, to throw them in
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    | text      = there would be to reveal the parts of the campaigns that they don't want to show you.
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    | text      = To have David Duke on stage with you might make you start nodding along with David Duke
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    | text      = and then people, you know what I'm saying?
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    | text      = Well sure, but that is essentially what the CPD's argument is, is like a leading candidate,
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    | text      = a relevant candidate wouldn't put themselves in that position.
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    | text      = So we wouldn't be able to do these debates if we just invited folks like David Duke.
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    | text      = Right, I mean the problem is fundamentally that they recognize their obsolescence.
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    | text      = And I think that a decent argument could be made that Ralph Nader was in theory a leading
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    | text      = candidate in the same way that Ron Paul maybe was a leading candidate.
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    | text      = I think that you could make a decent argument that they should have included them.
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    | text      = But the argument that would be successful I don't think follows the same track that
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    | text      = they're on.
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    | timestamp = 00:42:04.820
    | text      = No.
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    | text      = So anyway, Joe in 2003 is right about the system being fucked.
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    | timestamp = 00:42:09.340
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:10.340
    | text      = He's wrong about a lot and he accepts easy answers for hard questions.
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    | timestamp = 00:42:13.659
    | text      = But at least it feels like he has momentum heading in the right direction.
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    | timestamp = 00:42:17.320
    | text      = Which it doesn't feel like anymore.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:20.460
    | text      = Feels like he has momentum, but it's not good.
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    | text      = So Joe hates money and politics.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Don't we all?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:31.260
    | text      = Yep.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:32.260
    | text      = How much have we just not allowed?
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    | text      = Just the fact that people are, you're allowed to contribute money, gigantic sums of money,
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    | text      = huge corporations that would benefit from these people being, it's obvious that it's
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:42.420
    | text      = bought and paid for.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:43.780
    | text      = It's so obvious.
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    | text      = I mean it's so sick.
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    | timestamp = 00:42:46.300
    | text      = The whole situation is so tough.
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    | timestamp = 00:42:48.139
    | text      = So where's it going the next five years?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:49.139
    | text      = It's not going to get any better.
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    | text      = I'm praying for a meteor.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:51.539
    | text      = I think we need a meteor that wipes out about 60% of the people on the planet.
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    | text      = You know, that's like the only way we're going to survive.
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    | text      = I don't know, man.
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    | text      = You know, it's just, I think just enjoy yourself and try to have fun.
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    | text      = I don't know how much we're going to change.
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    | text      = I should remind you that Joe had Trump and Vance on his podcast for softball interviews
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    | text      = and has made a practice of helping launder the reputations of billionaires who gave vast
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    | text      = sums of money to Trump's campaign.
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    | text      = Whereas once Joe thought that this excessive money in politics was an unsolvable problem
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = that could only be solved by a meteor hitting the earth.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:23.500
    | text      = Now he's stupid rich and he's friends with a bunch of the people who profit from continuing
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:27.699
    | text      = that unsolvable problem.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:29.579
    | text      = Crazy how that works.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:30.579
    | text      = Joe made a choice.
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    | timestamp = 00:43:32.179
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Also Alex should be really mad about this kind of exterminationist talk.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:37.059
    | text      = The world's problems could be solved by killing 60% of the population?
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    | timestamp = 00:43:40.780
    | text      = That sounds downright globalist.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:42.619
    | text      = It does sound very globalist.
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    | text      = I guess it's fine from Joe though cause he's on Fear Factor.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:46.739
    | text      = Well now it even, it makes even more sense since he will have an underground redoubt.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:51.699
    | text      = Is that what I'm under?
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    | text      = Is that what we understand here?
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    | text      = Yeah, probably.
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    | text      = And Alex will get a little invite.
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    | text      = Alex will, but then Alex can't go under there because we know the zombies are going to pull
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    | text      = them out and eat them.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And Alex wants to be part of the eaters.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = He wants to be a zombie.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He's going to eat his neighbor's ass.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = So, um, this was awesome.
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    | text      = This next clip is awesome.
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    | text      = Joe wants wealth redistribution.
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    | text      = Of course he does.
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    | text      = And to kill conservatives.
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    | text      = Hey!
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    | text      = Our whole culture is a mess.
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    | text      = The only thing that would cure our culture is a mass global enlightenment.
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    | text      = I mean, how's that going to happen?
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    | text      = I mean, everyone has to do DMT and mushrooms every day for a month, you know, and we have
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    | text      = to, you know, uh, uh, evenly distribute wealth and you have to educate all the fucking poor
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    | text      = communities.
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    | text      = You have to stop dumb people from having children.
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    | text      = That's never going to stop.
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    | text      = You're going to, you're going to have to figure out a way to raise the children of ignorant
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    | text      = people and, uh, and give them some sort of a hope for life.
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    | text      = You know, that's not gonna, that's not going to happen.
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    | text      = So what are you going to do?
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    | text      = You're going to have to take insecure guys and break them free of all their control issues
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    | text      = so they don't become conservatives and Republicans.
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    | text      = Well, that's not going to happen.
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    | text      = You know how hard it is.
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    | text      = You know how hard it is.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = But you know how hard, but they're not social controls.
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    | text      = They're, they're, they're trying to control things in a different way.
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    | text      = I mean, do you know how hard it is to change someone's life?
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    | text      = It's virtually impossible.
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    | text      = So you would have to kill every conservative or, or enlighten them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The possibility of enlightening them is so slim.
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    | text      = But Joe, this whole left, right thing, I mean, I mean, there is no left, right.
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    | text      = But I'm talking about controlling people's behavior.
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    | text      = I'm not talking about conservative in a, in a common sense of the word.
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    | text      = I'm talking about it in a sense of, you know, all the time I was worried about other people,
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    | text      = all these gays trying to have marriages, you know, and someone saying, oh, you know,
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    | text      = you know, how was that Hillary Clinton, how the hell she, all that kind of crazy shit.
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    | text      = You know, people worrying about gays, people worry about specific ethnic groups, people
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    | text      = treating people other as anything other than individuals.
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    | text      = If you don't stop that, what do you think about the whole Arnold election?
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    | text      = Why not?
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    | text      = I mean, it's happening today.
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    | text      = I'm down for him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's a guy who lifts weights and did drugs and likes to fuck chicks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Put them in.
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    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I mean, why, why not anybody else?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Why him over anybody else?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Why anybody else over him?
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    | text      = It's all the same.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They're all completely full of shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know, I mean, he's one of those mackerel.
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    | text      = So that clip right there is shocking.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Joe is discussing his views.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Cause one of them wasn't mackerel.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = One of them squid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Unagi!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:46:23.500
    | text      = So Joe is discussing his views on how to fix our totally fucked up society.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And he thinks everyone needs to do a bunch of DMT.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Wealth needs to be redistributed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We need to institute eugenic policies and insecure men need to be taught how to let
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = go so they don't become conservative.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Alex should throw a swing at him after something like that, but his brand is so fragile in
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = 2003 and the whole, I'm not a conservative like you think that is so important to Alex
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = having any relevance.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:46:50.699
    | text      = So he has to hear Joe say shit that's heretical to him.
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    | text      = And he responds by asking about Arnold Schwarzenegger's run for governor.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Apparently Joe doesn't know that Alex was one of the largest opponents of Arnold's campaign.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I'm sure that Alex was hoping for a different answer or an ability to throw to commercial.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:47:06.619
    | text      = Because that's not good.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I think that clip is so breathtaking because Joe is talking about Alex when he describes
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = the person who's holding us back.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = When he clarifies who he's calling a conservative, he might have as well have been doing an Alex
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    | text      = impression.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So you would have to kill every conservative or enlighten them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:47:25.780
    | text      = The possibility of enlighten them is so slammed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:47:27.780
    | text      = Joe, this whole left right thing, I mean, there is no left right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:47:31.179
    | text      = But I'm talking about controlling people's behavior.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:47:33.219
    | text      = I'm not talking about conservative in a common sense of the word.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:47:37.019
    | text      = I'm talking about it in a sense of, you know, all these gays trying to have marriages, you
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = know, and someone saying, oh, you know, you know, how is that Hillary Clinton?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:47:47.139
    | text      = All that kind of crazy shit.
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    | text      = I don't think that Joe realizes that he's condemning Alex to his own face and Alex is
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = just taking it because he wants to hang out with a celebrity.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = But it's kind of insane to imagine that their friendship is based on this much of a false
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = premise and so little information on Joe's part.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's, I mean, what he's saying is essentially you need to evolve or die to Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:12.079
    | text      = You need to let go of all of this bullshit that is so important to you, like being concerned
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    | text      = about gay people getting married, your obsession with Hillary Clinton, your fears about other
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    | text      = ethnic groups.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's saying these are things you must let go of and you never will.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:32.539
    | text      = So society can't move forward unless we kill you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's I wonder about that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:38.099
    | text      = I wonder about the interesting after that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:48:43.099
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Because if what Joe is expressing is true, that they cannot change, then what has happened
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    | text      = is a result of that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And that is that essentially Joe has changed to Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So by proximity of one person not being able to change, if you want to continue to be around
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:01.079
    | text      = the unchangeable, you yourself must change.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:04.340
    | text      = And therefore we get where we get.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I think some of that is probably true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:09.099
    | text      = I think some of that's a little bit true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And then I also think that some of what Joe's doing here is an act.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:49:14.739
    | text      = Absolutely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:15.739
    | text      = And I think that he doesn't have a solid grounding in a lot of the positions that he has or a
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    | text      = lot of these beliefs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:21.980
    | text      = A lot of it is adolescent bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:24.159
    | text      = Like Arnold Schwarzenegger gets his dick sucked so he should be governor.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:28.880
    | text      = It's childish, immature shit that doesn't have a basis in any concern for what would
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:49:34.480
    | text      = Arnold do as governor?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:36.400
    | text      = What are the differences between him and some other candidate?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I think because there's no roots to it, there's no foundation, it's easy to change
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:46.980
    | text      = this person.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:47.980
    | text      = This person will change without even knowing it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:50.119
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:51.119
    | text      = Well, they're just going to say whatever is...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:52.760
    | text      = When he says we need to abolish the electoral college, it's identical to Alex saying blah,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:57.199
    | text      = blah, blah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:58.199
    | text      = Well, it's because we're in 2000.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:49:59.199
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:00.199
    | text      = It doesn't mean anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:01.199
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:02.199
    | text      = It's not like, oh, okay, now I'm going to help.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:03.800
    | text      = It's the summer of rage.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:05.159
    | text      = That's all it is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:06.159
    | text      = He doesn't actually care.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:07.960
    | text      = He's just saying the things that get you to react the way he wants you to.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:12.039
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:13.039
    | text      = What will sort of build up the brand that he's seeking to cultivate.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:17.360
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:18.599
    | text      = That brand is really cool in the late 90s, early 2000s.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:50:22.840
    | text      = And I understand exactly why you take on this standup character and persona.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:29.880
    | text      = But yeah, because it didn't grow up, it's changed by malign forces.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:36.119
    | text      = Yeah, too.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:38.360
    | text      = If you were to describe that era as the attitude era all across the board, as in like it is
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:50:46.300
    | text      = more about looking like this big than it is about being that.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:51.980
    | text      = You know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:52.980
    | text      = Well, I think that in terms of wrestling, that's good.
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    | timestamp = 00:50:56.420
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:57.420
    | text      = They weren't all that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:58.420
    | text      = Well, it was-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:50:59.420
    | text      = Because there'd be a lot of murderers on the loose.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:01.059
    | text      = It was good for Joe's career too, you know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:04.139
    | text      = To appear to be something and then it just continues to appear.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:07.739
    | text      = You just change what you appear like.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:09.699
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:10.699
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:11.699
    | text      = Especially when opportunities arise that are very, very lucrative.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:15.860
    | text      = It does.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:16.860
    | text      = You know, it's tough to look down the barrel of a hundred million dollar gun and go like,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:51:21.179
    | text      = well, I wouldn't take that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I hope I never know.
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    | text      = Me too.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So Joe says some great shit in this next clip.
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    | text      = You know, the problem isn't something that can be fixed.
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    | text      = The problem has so much to do with our diets.
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    | timestamp = 00:51:44.300
    | text      = It has so much to do with the way we take care of our bodies.
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    | text      = It has so much to do with what we put into our minds.
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    | text      = It has so much to do with education and the hundreds of years of education and lives that
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    | text      = have been perpetrated on the people in our culture from the beginning of our culture.
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    | text      = From the beginning of this, the birth of this country has been completely full of shit.
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    | text      = I mean, our country was founded by a bunch of people who were fucking religious fanatics.
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    | text      = They wanted to own slaves, but they wanted to be free.
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    | text      = You know what I mean?
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    | text      = That Puritan ethics still fucks us up to this day.
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    | text      = Joe, I got to tell you this.
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    | text      = I mean, you've said a lot of things I agree with, but at the same time, I think you're
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    | text      = oversimplifying a lot of the founding fathers.
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    | text      = I mean- Fuck the founding fathers.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They were idiots too.
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    | text      = Hold on.
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    | text      = I know.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:52:26.679
    | text      = Nobody's perfect, but you can point back.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You can point back.
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    | text      = I'm just saying what we're talking about is how do you fix it?
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    | text      = I mean, certainly- But don't point back.
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    | text      = Let's say how do you fix it?
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    | timestamp = 00:52:34.639
    | text      = How do you fix it?
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    | text      = You can't.
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    | text      = You can't.
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    | text      = It's too fucked up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Dude, it's too fucked up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The best you could do is enlighten people on how fucked up it is.
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    | text      = All I was trying to do is analyze something you said there and to get your response from
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    | text      = it.
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    | text      = It was slavery still going on all over the world.
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    | text      = Most of the founding fathers were against slavery and then released-
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    | text      = Well, I don't know that.
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    | text      = I didn't meet the founding fathers.
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    | text      = I don't think you did either.
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    | text      = What about Thomas Jefferson?
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    | text      = There's no video.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He talks about liberty and freedom?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = History's filled with lies.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:04.179
    | text      = Who knows?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:05.179
    | text      = George Bush talks about liberty and freedom.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:06.480
    | text      = He's totally full of shit.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:07.739
    | text      = We're fighting the axis of evil.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:53:09.739
    | text      = Let me tell you something.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You cannot trust anything history says.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You can't just say anything.
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    | text      = I like listening to this version of Rogan because he's right about so much and wrong
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    | text      = about so much, but he's coming at it fairly coherently.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This at least seems like a person who can exist.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = This is a persona that fits.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's right that our country is completely fucked up because the entire time we've existed,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = we've tried to be two contradictory things at the same time.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We're slave owners who love freedom.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We lied to ourselves to rationalize some of the awful shit that we were doing, and history
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    | text      = is never really fully reckoned with that history, and that lives on.
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    | text      = He's right about not putting the founding fathers on some kind of pedestal and about
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = how their words should be scrutinized in the same way that a modern figure should be.
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    | timestamp = 00:54:01.380
    | text      = They're just as capable of lying as Bush, so it's dumb to take things at face value.
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    | text      = That kind of stuff is all good, and it's nice to hear.
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    | text      = But this conclusion he comes to where you can't trust history and everything is bullshit
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    | text      = is so bad.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:16.739
    | text      = History is a tool, and just like any other tool, its value is dependent on how you use
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    | text      = it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:21.820
    | text      = We don't have a perfect record of everything that's happened from completely objective
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    | text      = sources, so the practice of understanding pieces of history involves learning about
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    | text      = context and how things fit together and what certain events can tell us about how people
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = interacted with those events in history.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:39.739
    | text      = He doesn't believe this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:40.940
    | text      = Joe doesn't believe that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's just a cool thing for him to say, for this character to say.
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    | text      = If you really believe that you can't trust anything from history, then you're kind of
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    | text      = in a position where anything outside of your subjective experience is entirely unknowable,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and I don't think Joe would defend that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Also, you just told me like 30 different things from fucking history.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:00.900
    | text      = So I don't trust your dumb ass.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:02.619
    | text      = What are we talking about here?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:03.820
    | text      = Are you just wasting my time?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:05.099
    | text      = You told me about the Decorticator earlier.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:06.780
    | text      = What are you doing?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I feel like I want to give him a pass and say that he's phrasing these things like a
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    | text      = comic might, because I think there is a little bit of that dynamic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:16.579
    | text      = But it also sounds really dumb.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It sounds like the, we believe in nothing from The Big Lebowski.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:22.820
    | text      = We believe in nothing!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:23.820
    | text      = And it's like, oh fine, you're nihilists, I guess, whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:27.699
    | text      = Go away.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, but I think the articulation of it and the way he's trying to come off is in line
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:33.179
    | text      = with like, I'm a performer, history's bullshit, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:36.699
    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:37.699
    | text      = Cool, sexy nihilism.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:38.699
    | text      = Yeah, but he wouldn't defend that history is all full of shit if pressed on it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:43.900
    | text      = I mean, you gotta get through the day.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, and that's why I give it a pass.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:47.219
    | text      = It's an embellishment for comedic effect.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:48.860
    | text      = Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:49.860
    | text      = Whatever, but it sounds stupid, because he's trying to be all so serious at the same time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So Alex is like, hey man, the founding fathers are pretty cool.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:58.059
    | text      = And mic down for this, because this is a mic down sort of moment.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:02.099
    | text      = This is one of the finest moments I've encountered.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:05.699
    | text      = Well this is all I'm saying about the founding fathers is that they weren't, I mean, to some
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:11.019
    | text      = of our standards they were bad, but they were light years ahead.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:13.500
    | text      = Who knows?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:14.500
    | text      = Who knows?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They were light years ahead of all brother writings.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They were light years ahead of a lot of people behind them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:19.579
    | text      = That's what I'm saying, they were brain-based.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They weren't light years ahead of Buddhists.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They weren't light years ahead of Tibetan monks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:24.860
    | text      = They weren't light years ahead of a lot of people.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But they got slavery all over those countries controlled by the Buddhists.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:28.659
    | text      = They're controlled by the, I mean, yeah, there's slavery all over the place.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And it's controlled by the Buddhist monks?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:34.579
    | text      = No, but I'm just saying, I'm just saying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I've got the documents to prove it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:37.940
    | text      = If you go to my website, Infowars.com, I'll show you the Buddhist monks controlled slavery
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:43.420
    | text      = and prostitution and heroin use.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:47.019
    | text      = Actually the Buddhist monks did help Hitler.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:49.460
    | text      = That's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:50.460
    | text      = They had Tibetan monks, they're chanting for him, trying to defeat him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:55.500
    | text      = That's actually typed in, that's even on the commission.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:57.500
    | text      = I thought you said they tried to help him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:58.500
    | text      = They tried to help Hitler.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:59.500
    | text      = Well, they were trying to defeat him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:01.500
    | text      = You support, no, you support Tibetan monks, you support Hitler.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:04.500
    | text      = No, no, I'm serious, Joe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:06.500
    | text      = They, because Hitler was in the Eastern Miss Assistant, he paid to have a bunch of Tibetan
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:11.619
    | text      = monks come there and they found a bunch of them dead in the bunker with him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:15.500
    | text      = You guys?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:16.980
    | text      = They found a bunch of Tibetan monks dead in the bunker with Hitler.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:19.980
    | text      = They found a bunker next door, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:20.980
    | text      = I thought they didn't even find the Tibetan monks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:22.980
    | text      = They got him outside with gasoline on him, burnt.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:25.980
    | text      = Yeah, the bunker was right there at the right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:27.980
    | text      = So it was a little shaky.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:28.980
    | text      = A little shaky, ladies and gentlemen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:30.980
    | text      = I'm going to have to turn the A game on in a minute.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:34.980
    | text      = This is the Alex Jones problem.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:35.980
    | text      = I'm about to turn the A game on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:37.980
    | text      = Alex Jones is a very smart man with a lot of information as a sous-soul.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:42.460
    | text      = However, sometimes he doesn't have the answer, so he will just make some shit up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:47.460
    | text      = Hey Joe, I told you 24 months ago about 9-11.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:50.460
    | text      = Do you believe in things?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:51.460
    | text      = 24 months?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:52.460
    | text      = What did you tell me?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:53.460
    | text      = I told you about 9-11, the government behind it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:54.460
    | text      = Well, 24 months ago 9-11 happened.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:55.460
    | text      = I think everybody knew about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:57.460
    | text      = So if you're Joe and you know that periodically Alex will make things up and try to confidently
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:03.460
    | text      = pass them off as true pieces of information that he knows from study, Alex should immediately
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:08.380
    | text      = become someone you don't take seriously.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:10.940
    | text      = He's a compulsive liar who has no problem misleading you when it serves his ego to do so.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:15.940
    | text      = Who gives a fuck about the supposed vast amount of information he has at his disposal?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:19.940
    | text      = Because of his behavior, you can never really know if anything he's saying is true or something
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:25.940
    | text      = he's making up to slip out of an argument that he's losing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:28.940
    | text      = I mean this fairly sincerely.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:30.940
    | text      = I don't think that Joe likes Alex very much.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:33.940
    | text      = I could believe that Joe has no idea what Alex thinks and has no interest in watching
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    | text      = his show to find out.
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    | text      = He's been sold the lie that Alex is some kind of counterculture guy who's above the left-right
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    | text      = paradigm.
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    | text      = That's enough for him.
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    | text      = I get the sense that if Joe knew that Alex was a religious zealot who hated gay people
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    | text      = and thought he was on a mission from God to fight the literal devil, they might not actually
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    | text      = have been friends at this point.
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    | text      = Probably not.
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    | text      = When Alex says that there were Tibetan monks who were found at Hitler's bunker, he's signaling
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    | text      = to hollow-earth-type conspiracies.
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    | text      = According to many hollow-earth folks, Tibetans have a connection to the inner-world society
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    | text      = Shambhala and Agartha.
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    | text      = And it was important for Hitler to maintain good relations with them so he could maintain
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    | text      = this link.
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    | text      = That makes sense.
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    | text      = The people in the inner-earth, they have secret powers and all that stuff.
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    | text      = Obviously.
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    | text      = So he wanted to get access to those things and the Tibetan monks were his best shot.
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    | text      = That makes sense.
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    | text      = In a crushing moment to be captured on film, Joe reveals that Alex is playing games and
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    | text      = that Joe knows it.
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    | text      = Alex is a compulsive liar and for whatever reason, Joe hasn't considered that a deal-breaker
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    | text      = for the last 22 years.
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    | text      = That is such a damning little thing there.
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    | text      = That's the Alex Jones problem.
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    | text      = He makes shit up.
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    | text      = It is an incredible thing.
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    | text      = I guess they're just these type of people and you can have those type of people, I guess.
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    | text      = But if somebody's like in a conversation with me and we are having an actual discussion
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    | text      = and then they're just like, you know, Tibetan monks were in with Hitler.
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    | text      = I'd be like, why are we doing any of this then?
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    | text      = You go away.
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    | text      = Now, if you tell me that is a non sequitur, then I'm not going to be as mad at you making
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    | text      = it up.
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    | text      = However, if you pull it out as defense for your claim that the founding fathers were
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    | text      = awesome and that I have rebutted it by saying they weren't as great as Tibetan monks.
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    | text      = If you then make this up to justify the rebuttal that I've made to your argument, then I
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    | text      = think that that's a different kind of lie.
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    | text      = Well, it's a manipulate.
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    | text      = It's far more manipulative of a lie.
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    | text      = It shows that you don't operate in good faith conversationally.
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    | text      = I mean, fundamentally, it is then a power thing.
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    | text      = It's just not about whatever we're talking about.
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    | text      = There's no point in us talking about things.
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    | text      = We should be arm wrestling.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = That's what you would prefer because you win.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know, it's that's what I'm saying is Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's clear that Joe knows that Alex is willing to lie when his ego needs to.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He needs to maintain this idea that he has all the information and he knows everything.
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    | text      = When that's threatened, he'll lie.
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    | text      = He just lies.
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    | text      = Because of that, nothing is trustworthy.
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    | text      = Now, I have known compulsive liars in my time.
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    | text      = If I knew that someone was a compulsive liar like this, I would never put them in a position
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    | text      = where their positions could be taken seriously.
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    | text      = I would never try to launder their reputation and try and make them, hey, they're actually
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    | text      = right about a bunch of stuff because you're going to explicitly get people to believe
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    | text      = I don't know if I've ever known a compulsive liar.
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    | text      = Or I mean, I've known of them, but I don't know.
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    | text      = I've never had a friend who is a compulsive liar because probably I'm the type of person
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    | text      = who would be like, oh, you're a compulsive liar.
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    | text      = Well, now your nickname is blank the compulsive liar.
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    | text      = That's it.
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    | text      = There's no reason for me to...
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    | text      = That's who you are.
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    | text      = That's why I can't be friends with that.
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    | text      = Well, I think that a lot of times it takes a while to figure out.
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    | text      = You may make a friendship before you figure out some of this stuff.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I think that Joe is too aware.
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    | text      = Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Of what he's around and who he's with.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He knows that Alex is full of shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's something that you shouldn't have 22 years later.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It is so close to the John Lennon 7 and he walks by a guitar shop and he's like, oh,
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    | text      = I'm going to have one of those someday.
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    | text      = You know, all that.
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    | text      = This is horrifying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This should cause problems for somebody.
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    | text      = Somewhere along the line, somebody should be like, oh, well, because this exists, a
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    | text      = thing must happen now.
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    | text      = Honestly, I think that John Lennon walking past a guitar when he's seven or something
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    | text      = like that would be this existing, but Alex coming off really well.
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    | text      = And him convincing Joe of a bunch of points.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Because then it's like, oh, hey, there's the guitar and the seed of whatever in my seven
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    | text      = year old brain comes to bloom in 25 or whatever.
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    | text      = But this is like, I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I don't even know how to make the Lennon metaphor work.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I was going at it from the other direction.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This is Rogan seeing who he's going to become.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But the guitar is aspirational.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Joe understands that what he's looking at is shit.
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    | text      = Yeah, I suppose I was thinking more of an inevitability to it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's grim.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The point is, this is fucked up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It is fucked up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This is ghosts of Christmas past shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You're not supposed to actually live a Christmas carol.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = So there are a couple moments, though, where Joe, I think he comes off okay.
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's some moments where there's a little bit of introspection.
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    | text      = And one of them is here where he's talking about this idea that he has where shit's just
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    | text      = fucked, man.
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    | text      = And he realizes how people will hear that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's fairly defeatist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It sounds like it's too fucked up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's nothing to do about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I don't want to waste my life trying to fix some shit that I can't fix.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = What I do want, I want people to be aware that you can't fix it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I want the people to be aware how crazy life really is.
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    | text      = This is what I tell people all the time.
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    | text      = If you ever think you've got a grip on life, if you ever think you know what the fuck is
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    | text      = up, I want you to go outside and I want you to look straight up and you realize there's
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:04:45.059
    | text      = 100 billion stars in this galaxy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This is one of hundreds of billions of galaxies in the known universe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = All structure is an illusion.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = All society is an illusion.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's all we are talking monkeys on a rock spinning around in space and that's it.
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    | text      = That's the standard planet orbiting a standard sun two thirds of the way out on the spiral
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    | text      = arm of the Milky Way galaxy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, but bottom line is real.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:05:09.219
    | text      = That's it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:09.860
    | text      = This whole, this whole, you know, concept of what's real and what's not real and what
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:13.539
    | text      = you're supposed to do, what you're not supposed to do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:15.300
    | text      = It's completely artificial.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:17.380
    | text      = Let me just say no one has any idea what the fuck is all about.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:20.420
    | text      = We have now though, if people wouldn't have fought against thugs and against tyrants.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:05:24.900
    | text      = So to say, give up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:26.340
    | text      = I mean, we still have, I mean, black folks are still be pulling the plow.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:30.579
    | text      = I'm not saying you said that, but you're saying, you know, you know, screw it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:33.219
    | text      = It's only going to get worse.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:34.019
    | text      = You can't stop it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:34.739
    | text      = I'm talking about voting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:36.900
    | text      = Talking about, but I think speaking out, putting your ideas out, we don't put it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:40.739
    | text      = Talking about egg rolls.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:41.780
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We didn't get a chance to vote for whether or not we wanted to go to war.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:45.219
    | text      = If we voted, the United States had a chance to vote.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:48.179
    | text      = That's what it's supposed to be about, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:05:49.940
    | text      = I agree.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:51.139
    | text      = Can I get another Diet Coke?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:52.500
    | text      = So there's been a miscarriage of judges.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:54.019
    | text      = I'm going to support this big, major corporation that fucking goes overseas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:57.139
    | text      = With aspartame and deadly poison.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:59.619
    | text      = Deadly poison if you're a fucking pussy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:02.420
    | text      = I could eat aspartame for lunch, dude.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:06.260
    | text      = Show them right there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:07.300
    | text      = Ladies and gentlemen, that's aspartame training.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:10.659
    | text      = It was revealed today that Joe Rogan had been taking aspartame.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:13.780
    | text      = Secondhand smoke, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:15.059
    | text      = I said, if you get cancer from secondhand smoke, you're a fucking pussy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So this is a direct affront to all of Alex's beliefs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:22.739
    | text      = We are not monkeys on a rock.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:24.579
    | text      = We're created by God and we have obligations to our ancestors to protect the white race or the west,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:29.619
    | text      = if you prefer to use that term.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:31.539
    | text      = Alex should hate Joe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:34.739
    | text      = I think Joe doesn't like Alex that much based on the way they're interacting,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:39.460
    | text      = but Alex should fucking hate Joe based on the things that he's expressing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:43.699
    | text      = And I suspect that if he didn't host Fear Factor or wasn't willing to be seen in public with Alex,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = these beliefs that he's expressing would be a huge problem.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Also, when Joe says that thing about secondhand smoke at the end there,
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    | text      = I'm pretty sure it's a continuation of an axe that he has to grind with
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    | text      = Dennis Leary for stealing material.
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    | text      = Earlier he tried to make a joke about Leary,
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    | text      = and I think this is him trying to play around with Alex, and I don't know if Alex gets it.
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    | text      = Yeah, that makes sense.
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    | text      = Because that is a Dennis Leary bit that I think people accuse him of stealing.
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    | text      = Here's that whole big smoking chunk.
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    | text      = Right, right, right, right.
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    | text      = I love smoking.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I watched that last night because I was reminded of it from this, and it doesn't hold up.
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    | text      = No?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = I mean, you can tell why he went on to star as a fireman.
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    | text      = There's a lot of impressions of someone with a throat tracheotomy.
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    | text      = Oh boy.
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    | text      = That's solid stuff.
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    | text      = That'll get him.
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    | text      = Time somebody who took down the trachs.
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    | text      = You know what I'm saying?
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    | text      = They've been having it too good for too long.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So Joe has pushed back a bit on Alex.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And I think that Alex is in a position where he's like,
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    | text      = ugh, I gotta smooth this over a little bit.
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    | text      = And so Joe's talking about something he saw on TV,
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    | text      = and Alex's actions I think are really illuminating.
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    | text      = You know what, man?
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    | text      = You know, Hitler burnt the Reichstag, Miro burnt Rome.
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    | text      = I was watching a documentary the other day with these Japanese
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    | text      = guys set something on fire, and they were blaming on the Chinese in the 1920s.
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    | timestamp = 01:08:20.279
    | text      = Really?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They wanted to go to war with China.
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    | text      = What was that event?
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    | text      = I need that.
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    | text      = It was on the History Channel.
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    | text      = I didn't know that.
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    | text      = It was just on a few days ago about the Semiram.
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    | text      = See?
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    | text      = You got to just tell me something.
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    | timestamp = 01:08:29.880
    | text      = Well, I wish I wrote it down.
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    | text      = I was in my hotel room, and I was just like, people are just fucked.
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    | timestamp = 01:08:34.039
    | text      = I just watched this.
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    | text      = I'm like, we've always been like this.
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    | text      = We love war.
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    | text      = So this is a very transparent move on Alex's part to pretend that
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    | text      = Joe just brought him some valuable information.
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    | text      = It's a form of flattery, where Alex's value is in digging up the truth,
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    | text      = and Joe has made a contribution to that.
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    | text      = Apparently, he saw something on the History Channel about some Japanese people burning
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    | text      = something as a means of blaming the Chinese.
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    | text      = This is great.
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    | text      = Joe's done some research for him.
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    | text      = Alex either knows about what Joe is talking about, or else this reveals that Alex is a
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    | text      = complete fraud.
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    | text      = This is in reference to the Mukden incident from 1931, where the Japanese government attempted
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    | text      = to blow up a train to blame the Chinese to justify an invasion.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:14.119
    | text      = They fucked it up, and the explosion wasn't strong enough to blow up the train, and the
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    | text      = plot was fairly quickly unraveled.
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    | timestamp = 01:09:19.800
    | text      = This is a big deal, and it led to Japan having to leave the League of Nations, so it's pretty
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    | text      = weird to imagine that Alex doesn't know about this.
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    | text      = It strongly feels like Alex has just been completely emasculated by Joe, saying that
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    | text      = he makes things up when he doesn't know correct information, so Alex is trying to win him
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    | text      = back over with this little pat on the head.
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    | text      = This is what Alex responds to, this sort of affirmation, and I think he's trying to
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    | text      = blind Joe with like, oh my god, you did so good.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = And I don't think that Joe fully responds the same way that Alex does to flattery.
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    | text      = Yeah, it is very much like, I guess carrot and stick is the only way to perceive a conversation.
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    | text      = Not like, you're a person and I'm a person.
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    | text      = It's how do I get your actions to line up with what I want them to be, you know?
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    | text      = Yeah, with Alex especially.
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    | text      = It's the pat on the head, or I'm gonna yell you're a sneaky snake.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:22.920
    | text      = Yep, yep.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:23.720
    | text      = That's the...
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    | text      = That's it.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm gonna say I can gut you like a pig, or I'm going to be like, he's the smartest man
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    | timestamp = 01:10:30.039
    | text      = I've ever seen, he's the most important, you know.
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    | text      = Oh my god, I never knew about these Japanese people trying to burn something to blame the
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    | timestamp = 01:10:35.000
    | text      = Chinese, oh my god.
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    | text      = Thank god you were in your hotel.
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    | text      = Oh, you're a miracle, yeah.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:40.199
    | text      = So they get onto the subject of JFK, because of course they do.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:44.359
    | text      = Sure.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:44.840
    | text      = And, you know, they talk about, of course, the Northwoods, Operation Northwoods, that
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    | text      = document, and he fucking killed Kennedy.
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    | text      = They did.
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    | text      = And then what was it, the Northwoods document?
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    | text      = Is that what it was?
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    | timestamp = 01:10:55.720
    | text      = Yeah, calls for a US government plan to carry out terror attacks.
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    | timestamp = 01:10:59.159
    | text      = And what was that, it was in 1962?
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    | timestamp = 01:11:01.079
    | text      = And Kennedy said no and got whacked a few months later.
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    | timestamp = 01:11:04.439
    | text      = They whacked that dude for a bunch of reasons, because he really thought he was the president.
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    | timestamp = 01:11:08.119
    | text      = Well no, that's it.
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    | text      = I mean, he'd been a big hawk and everything.
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    | text      = That's what's interesting about Kennedy, he was all for him, you know, big military,
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    | text      = actually cut taxes by half, he was almost, he was like a real conservative on a lot of
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    | text      = issues.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:20.039
    | text      = Again, they scrambled all the terms, but he cut taxes by half, beefed up the military,
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    | timestamp = 01:11:24.199
    | text      = yeah, these communists kicked their ass.
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    | text      = When they came to him with Northwoods, and I said it in my film, but it just came out
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    | text      = even on the front line.
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    | text      = And when he came out and said, when they came to him and said, we want to kill US troops,
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    | text      = we want to hijack jets, we want to blow stuff up in DC, he said, that's it, I'll abolish
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    | timestamp = 01:11:39.239
    | text      = him, the CIA, we're pulling out of Vietnam, I'm cutting military funding, we're not going
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    | text      = to Cuba anymore, and they just freaked.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I mean, they were so radical, they came to him with that plan to kill US citizens, he
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    | text      = said, I won't do it.
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    | text      = How great it would have been if Kennedy had a speech, he had a State of the Union speech,
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    | text      = and he just addressed all those issues.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:11:58.039
    | text      = How great it would have been if he got on television and talked about what the CIA really
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    | timestamp = 01:12:02.520
    | text      = does.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:02.840
    | text      = That's why they got him.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:03.560
    | text      = What he tries to do.
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    | timestamp = 01:12:04.600
    | text      = Great point, Joe.
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    | timestamp = 01:12:05.079
    | text      = I don't remember that, that McKinney said the other night.
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    | timestamp = 01:12:06.840
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:07.340
    | text      = Well, two weeks before he was killed, he was at American University and he gave a speech,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:12.039
    | text      = he said, soon I'm going to be exposing the greatest evil ever, our government's been
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:15.079
    | text      = taking over, it's a famous speech you can find online.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:17.319
    | text      = And he said, this darkness is out of control, we're going to stop it, and he was going to
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:22.119
    | text      = give a State of the Union about it, he was going to talk about it in the campaign.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:25.960
    | text      = But you're right, he should have done it boom, right up front.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:28.119
    | text      = Well, you know, that might have been the last hope.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:31.319
    | text      = You know, I mean, maybe that was just romanticizing it then, maybe he had no hope even then.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:12:35.560
    | text      = Where did your instinct go about Alex making things up, Joe, because you just accepted
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    | timestamp = 01:12:40.199
    | text      = that one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:41.159
    | text      = So JFK gave the commencement address at American University on June 10, 1963, and he was killed
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:46.840
    | text      = on November 22, so it wasn't two weeks before.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:49.960
    | text      = Alex is doing the old Alex thing, fudging details to be more interesting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:54.600
    | text      = Ironically, if Joe would listen to that speech, he might get some inspiration about the hopelessness
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:12:59.479
    | text      = he seems to be feeling about politics and life.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:29.479
    | text      = Alex is just making shit up about this Kennedy speech, which is mostly about a desire for
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    | timestamp = 01:13:41.000
    | text      = peace with the Soviet Union, and touching on things of like, we can't demonize the people
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:46.199
    | text      = of the Soviet Union, that is the worst thing we can do, is see all of them as our enemies.
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    | timestamp = 01:13:51.800
    | text      = But also, it's weird that Joe doesn't have that same history as old bullshit take on
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    | timestamp = 01:13:56.439
    | text      = Kennedy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:57.000
    | text      = It is strange.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:57.720
    | text      = Seems like he takes a lot of that shit on face value.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:59.880
    | text      = Very simply put, he likes what he hears.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:03.399
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:03.640
    | text      = And that means it's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:04.680
    | text      = Don't need to be so critical.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:05.960
    | text      = He doesn't like what he hears, and that means it's false.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:08.920
    | text      = Oh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:09.319
    | text      = It's very simple.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:10.520
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:10.840
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:11.479
    | text      = That's crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:12.439
    | text      = That's not good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:13.479
    | text      = That's probably not good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:16.039
    | text      = So when I was listening to this, I did have one thought, and that was that Joe was making
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:14:21.720
    | text      = me want to smoke weed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:23.560
    | text      = Oh, I was thinking I'm starting to get a little hungry for some sushi.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:26.760
    | text      = Oh, sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:27.319
    | text      = I mean, I do apologize if there's anyone who's sensitive to chewing sounds.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:33.479
    | text      = But I was listening to this, and I'm like, fuck, yeah, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:36.920
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:14:37.399
    | text      = Weed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:37.960
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:38.520
    | text      = It's so cool.
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    | timestamp = 01:14:39.640
    | text      = Do it.
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    | text      = Weed is cool.
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    | text      = Weed is cool.
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    | text      = What marijuana does, its gift is it offers you an enhanced view of the world.
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    | text      = It spreads your consciousness.
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    | text      = It helps you absolve your ego.
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    | text      = It helps you keep your ego in check and actually calm it and give you a more balanced and
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    | text      = objective perspective on the world.
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    | text      = It does.
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    | text      = People think marijuana makes me stupid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It hasn't made me stupid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It made me smarter.
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    | text      = It made me more aware.
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    | text      = It made me a better comedian.
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    | text      = In the three years since I just started smoking pot, my material has gotten so much deeper
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and richer and more in depth, and I enjoy it more.
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    | text      = I enjoy life more.
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    | text      = I've changed the way I look at things.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I've gotten out of so many traps of confinement of these predetermined patterns of behavior
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that people find themselves in, and we do it just because everyone else is doing it.
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    | text      = Well, me smoking pot made me realize that a lot of these things, we're just connecting
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    | text      = the dots because we're insecure, and we're not looking at what's really healthy and what
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = really feels good and what's really natural and what really helps you enjoy your life.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We're just doing it because we think that's what we're supposed to do.
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    | text      = You live a trap, and weed makes you aware of that, man.
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    | text      = Marijuana makes you very aware of everything around you.
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    | text      = People call it being paranoid, but it's not paranoia.
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    | text      = Life really does suck that bad for most people, and when you get high and you get paranoid,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = what's happening is all the bullshit is stripped away.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The bullshit veneer that most people cover their lives in just so they can fucking get
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    | text      = by, just so they can wake up when that goddamn alarm clock goes off.
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    | text      = That shit strips away when you smoke pot, and you are all of a sudden alone with your
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = thoughts and the reality of the world, the reality of the universe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And for most people, that's way too much to deal with.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They would rather have alcohol.
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    | text      = They would rather dull it down.
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    | text      = That's one of the reasons why everyone's afraid of marijuana, and that's one of the
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    | text      = reasons why marijuana can help everyone.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Everyone should be forced to smoke pot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You should be forced.
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    | text      = Not forced, obviously.
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    | text      = You should be encouraged.
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    | text      = You should be encouraged.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = I remember feeling like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I remember being young.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I thought that was so fucking funny.
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    | text      = But he's not young.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, I think that he's young.
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    | text      = You know how people say that they're young in the faith or whatever when they're-
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    | text      = That's what it is, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's three years into smoking weed.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He's a born-again Christian.
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    | text      = That's what he's doing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's doing the thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's doing the thing that everybody does whenever they make a massive life change in their early
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    | text      = 30s.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, but I remember also having that mentality about weed when I was young.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm not attacking weed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I think it can be incorporated into people's lives.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Totally fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = People respond to it differently.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Some people like it, some don't.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Neither should feel ashamed of either.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But I remember being young and thinking like, this is free in my mind, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:17:33.960
    | text      = This is my medicine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:17:36.359
    | text      = And it was not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It was-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That was a fun story to tell myself because I really enjoyed being high and it gave me
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = kind of feeling of being deeper, more introspective than the people around me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:17:51.420
    | text      = And maybe that was an illusion that I enjoyed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Maybe a little bit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I mean, you know, you'll get over it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's probably the truth that we should bundle all other truths underneath is just like,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I know it seems important right now, but you'll probably get over it in five to 10 years.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And then you'll be doing something else.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:11.180
    | text      = You'll be fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:12.140
    | text      = And I think that this, Rogan, the reason that this is good or this person is compelling
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:20.460
    | text      = is because he's speaking to people who are in where they're at.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = If you're somebody who's early in smoking weed or whatever, you'd be like,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = this guy fucking gets it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:32.779
    | text      = This guy gets it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:34.220
    | text      = And that is maybe important.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's articulating some things that you're experiencing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:18:41.020
    | text      = And, you know, maybe you'll, or maybe you should grow out of some of the perspectives
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that he's expressing, but also they can be an important part of the path.
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    | text      = I always thought about Linkin Park as being like, these people are making fantastic music for teens.
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    | text      = Like this is really, this really does hit on something about adolescence that like you're
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    | text      = going through.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I thought that was a really remarkable ability that they had.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And maybe if you're an adult and you're listening to it, you don't have the same connection to it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:21.899
    | text      = That doesn't devalue what the music is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I think that Rogan's the same thing for like young pot smokers.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:28.380
    | text      = Well, that's the problem is that he remains that thing for the young idiots.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:33.739
    | text      = They've not grown out of it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:37.659
    | text      = That is the problem.
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    | timestamp = 01:19:38.539
    | text      = With him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:39.579
    | text      = They've grown stable with him or whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:42.699
    | text      = The hope is that this is able to be a part of your growing to the next step of your life
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:49.420
    | text      = and getting through whatever this is speaking to.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:52.939
    | text      = But it also ends up being a trap when it's your brand in the way that Rogan has made this.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:59.579
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:19:59.739
    | text      = There's a certain amount of like the test of the small town to it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:04.140
    | text      = There's a certain amount of that patent bit where it's like either you get a job and I'm
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:09.739
    | text      = going to fill my truck up for free or you go, I'm getting the fuck out of here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:13.899
    | text      = And that is kind of a...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:16.060
    | text      = And Joe got the fuck out of there when a hundred million dollars was offered to him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:20.140
    | text      = You know, no one...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:22.859
    | text      = You did not make it clear to the audience that all of this is kind of bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:27.260
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:28.380
    | text      = So they leave the sushi restaurant and they go walk on Sunset Strip.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:32.859
    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:33.420
    | text      = And they end up going to Starbucks to get some coffee.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:36.060
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:36.619
    | text      = But Joe's trying to have a little bit of fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:38.460
    | text      = Oh no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:39.100
    | text      = So he talks about his dick.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:41.180
    | text      = You know what's weird though?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:42.460
    | text      = The wider my shoulders get, the more my dick shrinks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:45.340
    | text      = Is that related?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:46.300
    | text      = That's not true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:47.340
    | text      = Is that related?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:48.619
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:49.020
    | text      = I'm not an expert on it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:52.220
    | text      = You're not an expert on dick shrinkage?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:54.140
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:54.300
    | text      = Yeah, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:54.619
    | text      = My dick's really little right now, but it's crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:56.779
    | text      = It's crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:57.420
    | text      = It's a little bit of a tax.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:20:59.420
    | text      = But Joe, we're walking along down the street.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:00.859
    | text      = Let's cross over here so I can get a cup of coffee.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:03.500
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:03.739
    | text      = I'd like one too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:04.380
    | text      = We're walking along on Sunset Strip.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:06.460
    | text      = Alex Jones is in performance mode, ladies and gentlemen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:10.060
    | text      = If you could just be yourself all the time, wouldn't that be better?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:13.739
    | text      = Every now and then you'd pull out your chest and become Alex Jones on the radio.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:16.539
    | text      = I am being myself.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:17.819
    | text      = The truth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:19.180
    | text      = He's gonna kick my ass.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:19.979
    | text      = Look at these.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:20.300
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:21.340
    | text      = I had a sprawl.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:22.300
    | text      = I got nervous there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:23.100
    | text      = How to get low.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:23.739
    | text      = Oh, I was only gonna do so.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:26.220
    | text      = He piled around my head on the concrete.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:28.140
    | text      = Come on, buddy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:28.859
    | text      = You know I wouldn't do that to you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:31.260
    | text      = Would you guys just fuck already?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:32.699
    | text      = God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:33.819
    | text      = Joe is just straight up calling out Alex at various points for being fake.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:38.699
    | text      = Like your shit's fake.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:40.140
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:40.300
    | text      = I mean, wouldn't it be better just to be yourself?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:42.380
    | text      = Could you stop doing you?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:43.819
    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:44.220
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:45.020
    | text      = That's damning.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:46.460
    | text      = I mean, it is so much like he fucking misses the most fundamental part of that, which is
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:54.220
    | text      = you don't know which one is the real one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:21:58.060
    | text      = That's the issue here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:00.220
    | text      = You think that the one that you like is the real one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:22:03.420
    | text      = Everybody thinks that the one they like is the real one.
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    | text      = You have to believe that or get away.
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    | text      = Or you hate him.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = It's sad.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = So I do think that there's some decent bits of Joe, though.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Like earlier he was expressing some sort of, you know, hey, I don't want to be defeatist.
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    | text      = This ability to wrestle with his own ideas.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And in this next clip, I think he shows some really good sense.
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    | text      = Kevin, you get anything out of this?
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    | text      = This all good stuff?
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    | text      = Oh, Kevin's a genius.
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    | text      = Kevin, you're going to edit this?
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    | text      = Put it in like fast forward?
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    | text      = Don't worry.
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    | text      = He will.
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    | text      = But, uh, Joe, we need you up there on that building.
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    | text      = No, believe me.
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    | text      = I'm overexposed as it is.
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    | text      = I think I've had enough.
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    | text      = So how's the man show going?
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    | text      = It's fun, man.
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    | text      = It's fun as hell.
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    | text      = You're about to shoot more episodes?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Well, not until probably around February or March.
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    | text      = So Joe, Alex is saying you should be up on that big billboard on that building.
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    | text      = And Joe has the good sense to know, like, I'm too famous.
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    | text      = I am on the man show and Fear Factor.
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    | text      = I that's too much.
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    | text      = I don't want more than this.
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    | text      = He gives up on that.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = But that is a really good instinct that he has.
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    | text      = I think that that that might be one of the cornerstones of, like, what he lost.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He became fine with being up on that billboard.
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    | text      = So I read this book about this, like, late 80s, early 90s hacking group called the Masters
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    | text      = of Deception.
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    | text      = This is before Modems.
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    | text      = This is like they're calling into AT&T's phone line.
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    | text      = Phone freaks.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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    | text      = They're doing this whole thing.
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    | text      = And if you see the way these fucking young teenage, early 20s boys interact around this
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    | text      = budding version of the Internet that they have found, that's just theirs.
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    | text      = You can see, like, the germ of two directions.
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    | text      = You can see the germ of them being the fucking 4chan assholes who are, like, trying to pretend
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    | text      = to be cool in order to create some sort of fake, you know, libertarian freedom.
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    | text      = Like, we can post child porn because we're, you know, that old thing.
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    | text      = And then you also have the people who are like, maybe we should think about how this
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    | text      = shit works.
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    | text      = And also, here are the things we can do.
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    | text      = You know, it's so much like that.
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    | text      = You can see it all as it's about to happen.
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    | text      = And you can see that what happens for them, especially, was like the way they interacted
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    | text      = with the powers that be around them, because it was so negative, because everything that
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    | text      = they got was so bullshit.
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    | text      = They instinctively, just without even thinking about it, just go straight for the 4chan version.
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    | text      = They just barrel towards it.
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    | text      = Like absolute insane lunatics.
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    | text      = And the alternative is incredibly difficult, and it would require a softening of your position,
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    | text      = sort of in a negotiation with those powers that are so awful.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = And if you don't want to do that, there you go.
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    | text      = But the other alternative is don't ever get to the point where you have to decide to go
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    | text      = one of those paths.
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    | text      = There is the problem there, yeah.
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    | text      = And I think that Joe has that instinct.
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    | text      = You can kind of see, and it's not like I'm not forced to choose to be good or bad once
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    | text      = I'm on the billboard.
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    | text      = But I do have a choice to control my career in a certain way as to never be on that billboard.
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    | text      = No, I mean, ironically for him, based on his arguments, it is not inevitable that we would
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    | text      = wind up where we are.
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    | text      = It's not inevitable that that Joe turns into current day Joe.
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    | text      = And it also feels like he has an awareness that he has an affirmative responsibility
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    | text      = to not go in that direction of being overexposed, being on the billboard.
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    | text      = And that's fascinating.
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    | text      = Or being absorbed by Alex Jones's flattery.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = This next clip is another Mike Down clip, because I need you to hear what happens at
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    | text      = the end, because I'm a little unclear on it.
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    | text      = But Alex is lying to Joe about the Patriot Act and how you'll end up executed for weed.
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    | text      = And I think, pay close attention, because I think that Joe calls Alex an idiot.
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    | text      = OK.
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    | text      = That's a really good question to address.
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    | text      = I know Kevin will use that.
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    | text      = Sure, that's what the whole Patriot Act is really all about.
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    | text      = It's not about stopping terrorism.
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    | text      = The new Victory Act says one marijuana, cigarette or any other type of anything that's even
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    | text      = controlling the pills.
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    | text      = You're talking 20 to 90 in prison.
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    | text      = OK, an exercise.
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    | text      = Yeah, any drug possession.
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    | text      = They have the passing of they're trying to any drug possession.
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    | text      = 20 to 90.
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    | text      = It's an act of terrorism and manufacturing anything, including growing marijuana is a
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    | text      = quote weapon of mass destruction because it hurts masses of people.
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    | text      = You can be executed.
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    | text      = Jesus.
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    | text      = I'll show you the subsection.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I've got like AP articles, everything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Hey, Kevin, you need to interview this guy in front of you.
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    | text      = No, he's an idiot.
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    | text      = Joe Rogan gives an infomercial for marijuana.
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    | text      = I do give an infomercial for marijuana.
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    | text      = It's good stuff.
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    | text      = I think that he was saying to Kevin that Alex is an idiot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, you need to interview this guy in front of you because he's an idiot.
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    | text      = Kevin is walking backwards, recording Alex and Joe walking down the street.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:27:57.739
    | text      = There isn't another person in the frame who Joe might be talking about.
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    | text      = I, I include the possibility that there's something that's happening off camera that
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    | text      = we don't see that he's referring to.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = But given the amount of time that elapsed, the thing that Alex just said, the fact that
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    | timestamp = 01:28:15.899
    | text      = this is supposed to be Joe Rogan's interview, you know, that's why Kevin Booth is there
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    | timestamp = 01:28:19.899
    | text      = in LA.
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    | timestamp = 01:28:20.939
    | text      = Alex is clearly taking over this thing.
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    | text      = I think he called him an idiot.
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    | text      = I agree.
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    | text      = And I think that Alex realized that because he jumped into that Joe Rogan does an infomercial
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    | text      = for weed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:28:33.260
    | text      = You can see in his face almost a, oh, fuck.
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    | text      = And, and I think this is fascinating.
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    | timestamp = 01:28:42.060
    | text      = How do I save this?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:43.979
    | text      = I got to switch into like really performing.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:46.779
    | text      = Yep.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I've, I've just hit blank.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:28:49.739
    | text      = Now here's my decision tree.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like you can almost see the computer get to work on just instinctive BSing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:56.140
    | text      = Checkout.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:56.619
    | text      = Yep.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:28:57.260
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = 100%.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So I, I think that that is an awesome moment between the Alex Jones problem of just lying
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:05.579
    | text      = and making shit up that clip from earlier and the, you should interview this guy.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:09.659
    | text      = He's an idiot.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It doesn't paint a great picture.
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    | timestamp = 01:29:14.060
    | text      = Oh man.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:29:15.500
    | text      = Ah man, the past.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's a real piece of shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:19.420
    | text      = Yeah, it is.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So the whole idea is to interview Rogan for this documentary.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:25.659
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:26.140
    | text      = And so they go back to the hotel where they're going to interview him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:30.539
    | text      = So there's no like background music and all that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:32.619
    | text      = Sure, sure, sure.
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    | text      = Um, and so they start talking about, uh, just, you know, talking about a drug war type thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:41.340
    | text      = Police state, you know, and they end up talking about a guy who won Fear Factor.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:47.979
    | text      = Did I tell you about the guy who won Fear Factor and was speaking in tongues?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:29:51.579
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He was a real heavy duty religious dude, you know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And, uh, he, uh, once he won, he started, uh, clapping his hair.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:29:59.340
    | text      = Hallelujah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:00.699
    | text      = You are gracious God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:02.300
    | text      = You're so beautiful God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:03.899
    | text      = You are so patient with me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:05.180
    | text      = Oh, I saw that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:05.899
    | text      = And he starts pointing at the sky.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:07.100
    | text      = That's one guy, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:07.739
    | text      = Yeah, but they didn't get all this on camera for some reason.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:30:09.979
    | text      = The guy was rolling camera, forgot to press record or whatever, but this guy standing
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    | text      = there pointing up to the sky and he starts talking in tongues.
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    | text      = And I'm like, what are you doing?
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    | text      = That's what he's speaking a holy language.
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    | text      = Joe, you had an experience a lot of us have had at the airport where somebody with a giant
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    | text      = turbine that could hide 20 pounds of C4.
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    | text      = Well, it wasn't a giant turbine, but yeah, it was a turbine.
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    | text      = Well, we saw a guy coming here with a giant turbine.
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    | text      = How giant was a huge, like a blimp.
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    | text      = He had the Goodyear blimp on his head.
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    | text      = No, yeah, I was, uh, I was getting my sneakers scanned.
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    | text      = This is what happened.
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    | text      = I was at the, I do a joke about it in my act because it's so ridiculous.
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    | text      = It was like a bad scene in a bad movie.
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    | text      = I was, uh, at the airport and I was getting my sneakers scanned and, uh, the guy was asking
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    | text      = me all these dumb fear factor questions.
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    | text      = And I was, I was being really polite cause I was carrying weed and I was getting a little
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    | text      = Anyway, he was, he's scanning my sneakers for bombs.
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    | text      = He's telling me how much he likes fear factor.
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    | text      = And there was a dude in line that had a turbine on him.
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    | text      = And I looked at the guy with a turbine and he looked me in the eye.
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    | text      = We made eye contact and then he just walked right through.
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    | text      = Well, I was being scanned.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So the guy knows that you're a national TV celebrity with two TV shows, one of them,
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    | text      = number one in the country.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And that's not number one, but he knew who I was.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Well, now we got to start over with it.
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    | text      = Ah, damn it.
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    | text      = No, seriously, Joe.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Okay, Joe, because we're just going to put you in here telling the story about terrorism.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = Um, Joe, what have your experiences been flying?
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    | text      = You seen a double standard.
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    | text      = Well, you know, I mean, I read about Al Gore getting, uh, scanned at the airport and like
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    | text      = the, the former vice president is going to say, you know what, this whole me being president
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    | text      = thing didn't work out.
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    | text      = I'm turning to terrorism, you know?
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    | text      = So they're like, they're trying to let people know that, you know, everyone's equal and
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = even Al Gore has to be scanned.
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    | text      = And it's ridiculous.
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    | text      = I mean, the randomness is just silly.
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    | text      = I, uh, I got scanned because I bought my tickets a couple of weeks in advance, so I got red
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    | text      = flagged.
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    | text      = So they're, uh, running my sneakers for bombs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's checking my sneakers and he knows where I am.
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    | text      = And he's asking me fear factor questions.
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    | text      = So I can't believe that shows are really real.
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    | text      = Oh, I'll tell you what I can't, I couldn't eat that stuff.
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    | text      = And so there's something really fascinating that's going on in this dynamic where Joe's
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = the one who's supposed to be getting interviewed and Alex is trying to take over this interview.
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    | text      = And at the same time, Kevin Booth is the one who's directing this documentary.
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    | text      = And Alex is clearly trying to direct this interview.
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    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's trying to be everything that's going on in this room.
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    | text      = And when Rogan laughs at his question, I think he's laughing at the ridiculousness of the
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    | text      = whole situation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's not laughing because that question's funny.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:32:54.800
    | text      = He's laughing because like, what are we doing here?
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = What are we fucking doing here?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm in a hotel.
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    | text      = What is fucking happening?
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    | timestamp = 01:33:02.239
    | text      = Get Alex Jones out of my fucking face.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:33:04.239
    | text      = Why are you trying to throw Byron Allen questions at me?
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    | text      = Man, that is-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:07.439
    | text      = The comics unleashed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:33:08.720
    | text      = That is so fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like he just couldn't get rid of Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:33:12.880
    | text      = Mm-hmm.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:15.359
    | text      = It's a bad penny.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:16.399
    | text      = He just couldn't say directly to his face, go away from me now.
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    | text      = And it feels like he's trying in some ways.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So many oblique ways.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:33:25.920
    | text      = But none of them are Alex, go.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:33:28.640
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:29.199
    | text      = And there's something that feels like, all right, Joe Rogan is a comic and this is a
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = guy who worked with Bill Hicks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:33:37.199
    | text      = This is a guy who's Kevin Booth's comedy royalty in a lot of ways.
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    | timestamp = 01:33:41.840
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Especially for someone of Joe's character and his persona.
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    | text      = For their type, yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = So that is not a connection that you would want to throw away.
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    | text      = Kevin Booth directed Joe's first special, that Live from the Belly of the Beast.
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    | timestamp = 01:33:56.880
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:33:57.439
    | text      = And so maybe there's a feeling of, I want to retain this connection and I feel like
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    | text      = I kind of got to put up with Alex if I'm going to hang out with him.
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    | timestamp = 01:34:06.159
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And it just feels like shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:10.159
    | text      = If I'm going to have to do this, I'm going to be a dick to him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:34:14.640
    | text      = Mm-hmm.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:15.359
    | text      = I'm going to be a little passive aggressive.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:16.800
    | text      = And he's not going to do anything about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:18.560
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Because I'm on Fear Factor.
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    | timestamp = 01:34:20.159
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:20.479
    | text      = And he's a star fucker.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:21.840
    | text      = And it's like, man, just none of this needs to be happening.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:34:26.800
    | text      = Nah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:27.199
    | text      = This could all be not happening.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:28.800
    | text      = It could.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:30.159
    | text      = That's brutal.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:30.960
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So they're talking about this guy with a turban.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And of course this leads to some Islamophobia.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:36.000
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = They start talking about how dumb Muslims are.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:39.039
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:39.680
    | text      = But Joe wants to be clear, this applies to all religions.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:43.359
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:43.680
    | text      = He hates all religious people.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:45.199
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:45.439
    | text      = They're all fucking stupid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:46.720
    | text      = Great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:47.600
    | text      = So this guy's asking me all these dumb questions and I'm trying to play along.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:51.119
    | text      = And right while this is happening, there's a guy in line with a turban on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:54.239
    | text      = And I look over at him and he looks at me and we make eye contact.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:56.560
    | text      = And the guy just walks right through.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:58.479
    | text      = And he just walks right through.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:34:59.520
    | text      = Did you say anything to the screener at that point?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:01.279
    | text      = I just laughed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:02.159
    | text      = I just said, I can't even believe this is happening.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:04.159
    | text      = I said, this is so funny.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:05.199
    | text      = Here's a guy who's dressed like a fucking genie.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:08.800
    | text      = And I'm being scanned.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:10.399
    | text      = They're scanning my sneakers.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:12.239
    | text      = I do a joke.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:13.199
    | text      = I say the tips of his shoes curl up in a circle and they're scanning me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:16.560
    | text      = Check him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:17.520
    | text      = I want to know what goofy shit he believes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:19.680
    | text      = I mean, he's wearing an outfit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:20.960
    | text      = And religious freedom, the whole idea of religious freedom to me is
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:26.720
    | text      = all religions are retarded.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Every single one of them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:29.199
    | text      = They're all anything where a person tells you they know what's going on and they can help you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:34.720
    | text      = And you know, they're going to give you the secret knowledge.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:37.439
    | text      = It's all bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:38.239
    | text      = It's all cult.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:38.880
    | text      = I don't care if it's been around for, you know, as long as Scientology or it's been around as long
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:35:43.840
    | text      = as Islam or Christianity.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:47.119
    | text      = It's all ridiculous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:48.319
    | text      = You know, so when I see someone wearing an outfit, I know that's a zealot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:51.279
    | text      = That's a guy who's really deep, deep into whatever crazy bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:54.640
    | text      = And I would like them to talk to him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:35:56.319
    | text      = Well, I know that whenever we flew into Los Angeles, there was a guy getting on a plane
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:01.600
    | text      = to come here who had a turbine that you could hide, you know, 10 pounds of C4 in.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:07.199
    | text      = I mean, a giant brown turbine, but they were very busy searching old World War II vets in wheelchairs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:13.600
    | text      = So I think that Alex should be really pissed off by this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:18.399
    | text      = This is 2003.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:20.079
    | text      = He's been chosen by God for several years now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:22.560
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:23.119
    | text      = He's had many visions from God.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:25.199
    | text      = He predicted 9-11 because God gave him prophetic visions.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:28.479
    | text      = This isn't like some point in his career where he can't, or he could even conceivably be not a zealot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:35.760
    | text      = He is, by his own accounting of everything that's happened in his life, deeply into
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:43.359
    | text      = God has chosen me by 2003.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:45.840
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:46.239
    | text      = So the idea that Rogan could be telling him that all religions are stupid and they're a cult
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:51.199
    | text      = and all this shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:52.319
    | text      = Alex can't accept this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:53.760
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:36:54.319
    | text      = They have fundamental disagreements where he would scream at somebody else for expressing
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:37:00.319
    | text      = views like this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:37:01.039
    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = That's fascinating.
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    | text      = Well, I mean, it just goes to the absolute meaninglessness of everything he believes,
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    | text      = because it is, again, just circumstantial.
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    | text      = It's conditional.
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    | text      = In this situation, it will do me no good to express these beliefs to Joe.
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    | text      = So I will express this.
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    | text      = If I was in a different situation, it would be to my advantage to yell this person down
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    | text      = about how great Christianity is compared to...
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    | text      = If I start screaming that shit at Joe, he might not think that being friends with Kevin
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    | text      = Booth is worth it anymore.
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    | text      = Exactly.
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    | text      = You know?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = It's just so much like...
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    | text      = And if you don't know a person in multiple contexts, there's no way for you to know that
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    | text      = for sure.
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    | text      = But if one of those people is a media figure, you can.
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    | text      = You can know.
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    | text      = It's knowable.
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    | text      = You can know a lot.
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    | text      = And there's an element that Joe clearly does know something.
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    | text      = But the thing that he knows is that you're full of shit when you get on air, and oftentimes
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    | text      = you make stuff up.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = And that should be enough.
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    | text      = You shouldn't need to know all the specifics of Alex's career if you know that.
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    | text      = You can't purposefully lie to people?
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    | text      = Is that so hard?
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    | text      = I think that's a pretty good guiding line.
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    | text      = So as they're sitting there in the hotel room, eventually the topic of exercise comes up.
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    | text      = Not exorcisms.
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = Although I wish.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I would prefer that conversation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Great deal, boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = No, Joe's talking about how important exercise is.
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And good for you.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's a good thing to do for humans.
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    | timestamp = 01:38:39.920
    | text      = Agreed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And Alex jumps in and then gets scolded for disrupting this interview.
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    | timestamp = 01:38:45.760
    | text      = Oh my god.
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    | text      = You're an ape.
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    | text      = You're basically a hairless ape.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You're a talking monkey on a planet, and your body is meant to do things physically.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's meant to chase after food.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's meant to hunt and gather, and you have to exercise it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = If you don't, those chemicals just store up in your body, and you're going to become depressed.
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    | timestamp = 01:39:02.479
    | text      = You're going to feel horrible.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:39:03.359
    | text      = Your body's going to break down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Your tissue's going to soften.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Your muscle's going to atrophy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You're not going to be healthy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Y'all ready to work out, goddamn!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:09.760
    | text      = What you really need to do is get up and exercise.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:14.239
    | text      = You need to take vitamins.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You need to supplement your diet.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You need to supplement your diet with essential fatty acids, with vitamins, colloidal minerals, nutrients.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You need to do that, and you need to exercise.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You have to keep your body moving.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:24.720
    | text      = If you keep your body moving, your body will stay younger much longer.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:28.159
    | text      = I'm 36 years old.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:29.600
    | text      = The guys that I went to high school with, so many of them look like they're fucking 50.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:32.880
    | text      = I feel great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:33.600
    | text      = I'm always horny.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:34.399
    | text      = I work out constantly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = My body works great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:37.359
    | text      = I'm 36 years old.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:38.479
    | text      = Technically, I'm middle-aged.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm ready to go to war, Joe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:41.279
    | text      = You got me fired up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:42.319
    | text      = Ladies and gentlemen, what a speech dynamic!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:44.720
    | text      = He's going to eat the cheeseburgers, and he's going to fucking start eating them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:46.640
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:47.359
    | text      = You know what?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I used to be an exercising fiend.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I've been exercising, actually, a little bit more, Joe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:51.039
    | text      = But let me tell you, what he's saying is true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:52.880
    | text      = Eating this crap turns you into a weak blob!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:39:56.000
    | text      = What I'm trying to say is these companies have no interest in making you healthy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:01.600
    | text      = They have an interest in giving you something that makes you feel better, that they can get money from you for.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:06.880
    | text      = It's a business.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:07.680
    | text      = They sell you something.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:09.119
    | text      = They want to give you a treatment for the simple.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:10.399
    | text      = Hold on a second.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:11.680
    | text      = If they wanted you to be healthy, they would give you advice.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:14.399
    | text      = They wanted you to be healthy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:15.439
    | text      = Pharmaceutical companies would say, listen, man, you don't need Zoloft.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:18.479
    | text      = What you really need to do is have a life that doesn't suck.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:21.039
    | text      = The reason why you're so depressed is because you work this fucking terrible job where you sit in a cubicle all day and you stare at a computer and you file paperwork for some big company.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:30.159
    | text      = You get home, you're tired, your feet hurt, and what are you going to do?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:33.199
    | text      = You're going to watch television?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:34.239
    | text      = You're going to talk to your wife?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:35.439
    | text      = Who have you been involved in this fucking crazy monogamous relationship with for 20 years where you have no desire to have sex with her anymore?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:42.079
    | text      = You don't even communicate because most of your life you spend away from each other.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:45.439
    | text      = You don't have any shared interests.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:49.279
    | text      = So what do you do?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:50.159
    | text      = Well, you get depressed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:52.399
    | text      = You get bummed out.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:53.199
    | text      = Your life seems pointless and hopeless.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:54.960
    | text      = You're 40.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:55.840
    | text      = You're dying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:56.720
    | text      = So what are they going to do?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:57.359
    | text      = They're going to give you a pill.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:58.319
    | text      = You're going to feel better.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:40:59.520
    | text      = Well, what they really need to tell you is you need to do something with your life and make it more interesting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:04.800
    | text      = So I mean, there's obviously the fundamental misunderstanding of depression and mental health stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:12.159
    | text      = Just your life is boring.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:14.720
    | text      = And that's fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:15.840
    | text      = That's kind of what you'd expect from the adolescent standpoint that he's coming at this from.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:21.199
    | text      = I believe if you get cancer, you're a pussy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:23.520
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:23.920
    | text      = If I recall.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:24.720
    | text      = Well, that might have been making fun of Dennis Leary.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:27.520
    | text      = But still, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:29.119
    | text      = You know, like this is great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:32.560
    | text      = It can't hurt to exercise necessarily.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:36.960
    | text      = And exploring your creative passions is probably not going to lead to you being more depressed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:43.199
    | text      = But it's silly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:45.439
    | text      = This kind of mentality.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:47.439
    | text      = And I think that, like, obviously anybody who takes this kind of stuff seriously recognizes that there's a place for talking.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:57.439
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:41:58.239
    | text      = And working out some of your issues.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:00.560
    | text      = And you know what he's saying?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:02.159
    | text      = People giving you some advice.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:03.920
    | text      = You giving yourself some advice in a therapeutic setting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:06.640
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:07.039
    | text      = That has a place and so does medication.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:10.239
    | text      = Like, I don't think that the pharma companies should be giving you therapy in the same way that therapists don't prescribe drugs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:21.279
    | text      = Both prongs are important.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:23.600
    | text      = And I just, I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:26.800
    | text      = I think he's very stupid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:28.640
    | text      = But if you were going to give me a pill that made me happy, it would be Kevin Booth telling Alex, let him finish his sentence.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:36.640
    | text      = It is like Alex's proximity renders everything you have to say pointless.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:44.000
    | text      = By virtue of Alex being nearby.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:48.560
    | text      = Like a moon that's out of fucking whack.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:52.239
    | text      = Your tides are crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:53.680
    | text      = There's no point in talking.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:55.600
    | text      = Because out of nowhere, Alex might just pop out and be like, no, I want to exercise.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:42:59.760
    | text      = Let's go to war.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:00.640
    | text      = That's not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:02.319
    | text      = We're, we're here for a job.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:04.399
    | text      = You ruined the shot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:05.920
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:06.640
    | text      = This is, we're doing a thing, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:08.399
    | text      = Joe was on a roll.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:10.720
    | text      = I mean, what are you saying?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:11.439
    | text      = He was stupid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:11.920
    | text      = He was dumb.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:12.720
    | text      = But he was, it was at least the thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:15.680
    | text      = And now I will say that I'm a little bit more permissive of this kind of attitude because it's 2000.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:23.840
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:24.399
    | text      = And I think that at the time there might have been a less responsible messaging around some
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:34.800
    | text      = pharmaceuticals.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:36.079
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:36.319
    | text      = You know, there, there might, there, I think there was more reason to believe that people
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:41.520
    | text      = were saying, take this pill, it'll solve your problems in 2000 than it is currently.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:48.560
    | text      = I don't think that like a lot of the marketing from these companies was,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:53.119
    | text      = Hey, we have magic and a pill.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:54.640
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:43:55.039
    | text      = But culturally, I think a lot of people did have that perspective.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:00.399
    | text      = And so Rogan being like this, that's bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:04.399
    | text      = I think there's more of a comedic contrarian take that makes sense in 2000 than in,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:10.399
    | text      = than the present.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:11.199
    | text      = Well, I mean, yeah, I don't know how much of, here's the problem with the past.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:18.399
    | text      = The problem with the past is I no longer know how much information anyone was privy to at
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:24.079
    | text      = any given point in time, nor what information, nor do I have like a, a, a bar by which that
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:44:30.880
    | text      = information should be judged or like a five out of 10 kind of scale.
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    | text      = Because once the internet took over that, that renders like that changes the way I think
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    | text      = about everything.
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    | text      = Like now I have access to all information.
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    | text      = So there is a certain amount of responsibility of like, just being basic competence, you
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    | text      = know, what does that mean in 2003?
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    | text      = You know?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = You know, like, even, even with all information available, you can't possibly take in all
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    | text      = of it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So the responsibility is still weird.
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    | text      = But in 2003, right.
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    | text      = I'm just saying about me looking back, you know, like I don't have any judgments because
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    | text      = I really don't even, how do you even relate to that anymore?
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Well, you know, when I was talking about history being a tool and it being about how you use
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    | text      = it, I think that what Rogan is saying is bad, but within the context of someone talking
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    | text      = like this in 2000, like the, the surrounding aspects of it, make it less like, Oh, this
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    | text      = is some RFK bullshit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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    | text      = You know, it's, it's more palatable coming out of a 2003 mind.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 01:45:40.399
    | text      = But whatever.
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    | text      = I mean, you know, it is, it is like, how far away from Stokely Carmichael are we while
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = at the same time being so far away from Stokely Carmichael.
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    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know, and that's like, what era is what to compare it to?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Here's, here's what we do know that Joe knows.
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    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Alex is full of shit and kind of annoying.
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    | text      = There we go.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:03.680
    | text      = And we can demonstrate that through this awkward sushi date that they had.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So that's really what's important.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's what we're, yeah.
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    | text      = So Joe seems to think that like having a family and all that shit is kind of maybe a big part
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    | text      = of the root of depression, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Which Alex really shouldn't agree with.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Is that's, what's going to make you happy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Be involved in relationships where you're actually friends with each other.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = This is the thing I've been saying to people, people getting involved in these crazy relationships
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = where they, they have these predetermined patterns of behavior that they think they
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    | text      = have to follow.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You have to see someone and once you see them, you should only have sex with that one person
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and you should be monogamous and you should stay together.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And you know what, you know, sometimes you're going to do what the wife wants you to do.
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    | text      = No, you don't.
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    | text      = You don't have to do what the wife wants you to do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:46:44.000
    | text      = You have to do what you want to do and you should let her do what she wants to do.
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    | text      = And if that doesn't work together, then you shouldn't hang out.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Friends are just friends and a male friend and a female friend together are still just
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = friends.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:46:56.319
    | text      = This whole idea of defining it by wife and husband and mother and child, that's all ridiculous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We're just a bunch of human beings.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We should just enjoy each other's company.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And that's why people are fucking depressed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's why pharmaceutical companies have a stranglehold on our culture because they
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:11.119
    | text      = give you something that makes you feel better about a life that sucks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:16.800
    | text      = Powerful info.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I'm sorry for jumping in there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's okay, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You get excited.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:19.680
    | text      = No, I was listening to that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I was wanting to go three or four days.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:22.479
    | text      = I've been swimming and jogging again and I wanted to go do something.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:25.119
    | text      = That's the only way to have a happy life.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:26.560
    | text      = It's killing me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:27.760
    | text      = How different is what Joe's saying from like, we're all purple penguins.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:32.319
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:32.800
    | text      = You know, Alex should not respond like this is powerful information.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:38.640
    | text      = This should be a fundamental attack on God's hierarchy and divine order and the right way
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:44.560
    | text      = to live your life.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:46.560
    | text      = Like if Joe's ideas are to be accepted broadly, that's the destruction of the family unit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:53.279
    | text      = That is man and woman do not exist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:57.840
    | text      = What do you mean they're the same?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:47:59.119
    | text      = How can you raise a child?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:01.760
    | text      = This is no good, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:03.600
    | text      = What next?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:05.279
    | text      = Trans people in sports?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:07.439
    | text      = I have a child, right?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:08.960
    | text      = But I'm not digging this kid's vibe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:10.560
    | text      = I'm out of here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:11.520
    | text      = Get him the fuck out of here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:12.159
    | text      = He's not my friend.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:12.800
    | text      = I don't even like him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:14.000
    | text      = What?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:14.560
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:15.680
    | text      = I mean, oh boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:17.760
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:18.239
    | text      = So here, this kind of is where we touch on a little bit of a problem.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And that is, I think that Joe's high.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:24.560
    | text      = Well, yeah, obviously.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:25.520
    | text      = I think he's high all the time and he's not really making a lot of sense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:28.720
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:29.039
    | text      = And so in the same way that Alex can't stop himself from budding in,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:35.199
    | text      = Joe can't stop himself from saying nonsense.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:39.199
    | text      = No, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:40.640
    | text      = He needs Alex's guidance, ironically.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:43.119
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:43.760
    | text      = Well, it's just like the problem is context.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:48.079
    | text      = No one in this room is capable of telling everyone in the room what they need to hear,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:54.239
    | text      = which is just stop talking for a while.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:56.159
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:57.359
    | text      = Alex, wait in the hall.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:48:58.720
    | text      = All of you need to agree to shut the fuck up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:01.920
    | text      = But unfortunately, if Alex isn't there, like, I think you end up with stuff like this,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:07.760
    | text      = which is like, what are you even talking about?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:10.560
    | text      = There's a lot of vanity involved in exercise.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:12.479
    | text      = I'll be the first person to tell you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:15.279
    | text      = I'll be the first person to tell you that there's a lot of vanity involved and take
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:49:17.840
    | text      = care of your body.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:18.720
    | text      = You know what?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:19.199
    | text      = But if I had to choose between having a nice body and having a bad body, I think having
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:23.760
    | text      = a nice body is better.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:24.960
    | text      = You know, is that shallow?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:26.800
    | text      = No, it's honest.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:28.079
    | text      = The people who say it's not the people that say it's shallow and it's not important.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:32.640
    | text      = They're ridiculous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:33.680
    | text      = You're being jealous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:34.560
    | text      = It's a cop out.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:35.439
    | text      = And you know that your body's wrecked and you haven't exercised your whole life.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:38.479
    | text      = And you know, women aren't going to find you physically and sexually attractive just by
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:42.239
    | text      = looking at you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:43.119
    | text      = So you pretend that that's not important.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:45.439
    | text      = Let me tell you something.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:46.479
    | text      = It's very important when girls see your body and a girl takes my clothes off and she gets
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:52.239
    | text      = into it and they're turned on by you physically.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:54.560
    | text      = That's fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:55.600
    | text      = A girl with a hot body is fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:57.439
    | text      = Anybody who denies that is ridiculous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:49:58.960
    | text      = And anybody who thinks that a girl has a hot body has to have a shitty personality is a
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:02.640
    | text      = fucking moron.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:03.600
    | text      = That's ridiculous and not mutually exclusive.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:05.680
    | text      = A girl with a hot body can be really interesting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:08.239
    | text      = Just like a chick with a shitty body can be a fucking moron and stupid and often is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:14.479
    | text      = Phone call.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:16.319
    | text      = There's a drug tie into this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:18.000
    | text      = That was probably a very important room service call.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:20.880
    | text      = Can you talk?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:21.520
    | text      = Hold on just a second.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:25.840
    | text      = I'm not in this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:26.800
    | text      = I'm not in this, Kevin.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:28.000
    | text      = This needs to be Joe's for the film.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:29.520
    | text      = It's just not me dancing around or yelling or anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:31.680
    | text      = Well, it's it's it's no, no, no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:33.680
    | text      = The important question.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:34.479
    | text      = Okay, look, look.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:36.720
    | text      = So Alex is now talking to Kevin behind the camera being like, this isn't me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:43.279
    | text      = This isn't my interview.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:45.119
    | text      = I can't stop Joe constantly from talking about how women with great bodies can be cool too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:50:52.000
    | text      = Like, this is like, I could guide him, but then this just becomes about me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:00.560
    | text      = Joe's an idiot too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:02.079
    | text      = These guys both think each other are idiots.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:04.399
    | text      = Do you know what?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:05.039
    | text      = It's so funny to me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:06.720
    | text      = It's so funny to me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:08.000
    | text      = All the all of the like, we need a meteor people and all of that stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:12.079
    | text      = It's so funny that it never occurs to them that just like, dudes, you know, like, listen
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:18.000
    | text      = to these dudes say dude shit to each other.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:20.720
    | text      = But earlier in the episode, Joe was saying that insecure men need to right to be talked
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:26.960
    | text      = to let go of these insecurities so they don't become conservatives.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:30.079
    | text      = Listen to him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:30.640
    | text      = He understands that there is a problem with a certain strain of masculinity.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:34.399
    | text      = He doesn't realize that he is it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:36.000
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:37.199
    | text      = It is the dude he is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:38.960
    | text      = But he's also high man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:40.640
    | text      = He has these deep thoughts.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:51:41.840
    | text      = I thought he was opening up his mind to everything but the strain of masculinity that he exists
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    | text      = within as a self-destructive force entirely.
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    | text      = Uh, man.
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    | text      = Well, what you gonna do?
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    | text      = It's fascinating because they both really clearly resent each other.
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    | text      = Just dudes.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Just stop letting dudes talk.
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    | text      = You know?
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    | text      = Just listen to this shit.
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    | text      = Listen to this shit.
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    | text      = Alex is kind of coming from a perspective of like, I can make this interesting if I
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    | text      = just bully this.
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    | text      = If I just jump in and do my Alex dance.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = I can make this interesting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And Rogan's coming from a place where he's like, I don't like you when you do that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I like you as my friend who isn't that performing asshole.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And Alex is like, I can only be interesting and make things interesting when I'm being
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    | text      = that asshole.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = They're-
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    | text      = And you're not being interesting right now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Or at least what you're talking about is not relevant to this documentary.
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    | text      = Not helpful.
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    | text      = You're wasting film.
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    | text      = Very fucking counterproductive for what we're trying to put out here to also have you being
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = like, smart chicks can be hot.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like that's great.
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    | text      = Wow.
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    | text      = Stop.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = All of that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sometimes people I'm not attracted to are dumb also.
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    | text      = Let's go back to the Iraq war because somehow I feel like your Muslim bashing is more acceptable.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Cause this is horrifying.
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    | text      = So we have one last clip here.
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    | text      = This is the end of how this special wraps up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's magic.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And it's Joe clearly was like, I need a clean take.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I need to just be able to get my rant in.
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And so Alex, I think maybe was in the hall.
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    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I think they might have taken Alex out of the room.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So Joe can just get this clean taken.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Ugh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Pharmaceutical companies.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Pitch a lot of things, pitch a lot of drugs, sell a lot of drugs based on the idea of chemical
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    | text      = imbalances.
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    | text      = Now, a lot of people do have an actual chemical imbalance in their brain.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's a lot of people that are crazy.
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    | text      = There's no doubt.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's a lot of people whose brains don't function very well.
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    | text      = And there, there is a pill, there's some drugs or some tests they can do to find out if it's
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    | text      = true and they can actually help people.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's that's real.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But a lot of people take drugs, take pills that pharmaceutical companies describe prescribed
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = because their life sucks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And when your life sucks, you will have a chemical imbalance in your brain.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And that's a natural thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = When you're depressed, if you have a terrible job, you sit in a fucking-
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Sucks to who?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You come home and you're in a loveless marriage and you have no hobbies, no interests, no
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    | text      = passion and no creative output.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Your life is going to suck and you're not going to feel good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That doesn't mean you need a pill.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That doesn't mean someone should give you a pill and you take that pill and all of a
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = sudden you're happy and you can deal with this sucky life and you can walk through it
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = with a smile.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know what?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = If you want to be a drone and you're happy being a drone and you would like someone to
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:54:40.079
    | text      = just give you a pill so that you can accept that, that is available to you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But that's not helping anyone.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = What you really need to do is get the fuck out of this life that you're living.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:54:49.279
    | text      = We're taught to believe that this that we're supposed to follow this predetermined pattern
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = of behavior where you live this, this, you know, you work 50 weeks a year for two weeks
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    | text      = off.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:00.000
    | text      = You basically you slave, you give away eight hours of your day.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:55:03.119
    | text      = We say, well, hey, you got those other 16 hours to yourself, but you don't.
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    | timestamp = 01:55:06.720
    | text      = You know, if you work eight hours a day, man, you're fucking tired.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:55:09.680
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:10.479
    | text      = In between travel to and from work, all that, you cut a couple hours out of there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:55:14.720
    | text      = You got eating, you cut a couple hours out of there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:16.720
    | text      = How many, how many hours you have left?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:18.720
    | text      = What do you get like 10, 12 hours left in your day and what are you going to do?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:22.319
    | text      = What are you going to do?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You're going to sleep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You got to sleep for at least eight or you don't feel good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:55:25.920
    | text      = What, what kind of life is that?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:27.199
    | text      = It's no life.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:28.239
    | text      = If you don't do something that you enjoy doing for a living, you're going to be depressed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:33.680
    | text      = That's a fact.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And it being depressed is, is not because you have a chemical imbalance in your brain.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:40.079
    | text      = It's because your brain is responding to a really bad, boring life with no stimulation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:46.960
    | text      = That's what pharmaceutical companies don't want you to hear.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:50.399
    | text      = They want you to think that there's something that they could fix in you and just give you
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:53.760
    | text      = a little pill.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:54.560
    | text      = But really the symptoms are just a part of your life being a fucking massive piece of
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:59.279
    | text      = shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:55:59.520
    | text      = That would have gone a lot better if Alex didn't interrupt me five or six fucking times.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:56:07.119
    | text      = And that's the end.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:07.840
    | text      = Ooh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:09.680
    | text      = I think that like, honestly, if I watch this, the way that it's not edited out where Joe
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:56:16.399
    | text      = is being a real like, Hey, the Alex Jones problem is that he makes shit up and that
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:21.600
    | text      = it ends with him saying that would have been a lot easier without Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:25.920
    | text      = Yep.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:26.560
    | text      = The fact that all of that is there and this was released, it makes me think that Kevin
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:56:31.680
    | text      = doesn't like Alex that much.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:33.119
    | text      = Nope.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:35.600
    | text      = This makes Alex look really bad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:37.680
    | text      = It is, it is the artificiality of all of this is so fucked up in retrospect, especially
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:56:46.079
    | text      = considering the amount of realness they think they are.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:49.680
    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:50.319
    | text      = Like it is fascinating the idea that you can do a rant on cue, you know, like that's ridiculous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:56:56.880
    | text      = Uh, that's, that's just performance, uh, which is fine, but you know, you're just saying
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:57:02.479
    | text      = lines, so don't act like you've got some big emotional truth behind you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:07.359
    | text      = And then Alex is just exploiting fame.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:10.159
    | text      = He's just there being like, Oh, if I outburst here, maybe I'll get in.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:14.079
    | text      = This will be a good take.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:15.039
    | text      = He'll probably put me in.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:16.239
    | text      = That'll get me more out there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:18.880
    | text      = You know, he also recognizes that left to his own devices, Joe goes down a bunch of
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:57:23.439
    | text      = dumb paths that aren't helpful.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:25.039
    | text      = And he feels a responsibility to keep that on track.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:28.560
    | text      = And Kevin is clearly keeping the two of these people there to fuck each other up for his
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:34.000
    | text      = own purposes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:34.960
    | text      = Maybe it is maybe he's a fucking wild.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:37.359
    | text      = He's a sadist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:39.039
    | text      = All of you need to go home.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:41.119
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:42.319
    | text      = And I think that, I think that, um, you know, obviously I'm not a Bill Hicks historian.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:57:47.840
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Um, but I do think that there's something really special about him as a performer, as
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:57:54.319
    | text      = somebody who had a lot to say, uh, a style that was, uh, singular in a lot of ways.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:58:01.520
    | text      = And the fact that he died young and was aware that he was going to die.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:58:06.800
    | text      = The fact that he had a terminal cancer, um, it gives his legacy some kind of meaning that
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:58:14.479
    | text      = a lot of people don't have.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:58:16.000
    | text      = Sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I think that Kevin Booth, being somebody who worked intimately with this guy, probably
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:58:23.119
    | text      = wanted to replace him because having that kind of person around you probably feels great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:58:30.720
    | text      = It probably is like being next to an alien.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:58:34.880
    | text      = It's exciting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:58:35.760
    | text      = Yeah, for sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I think that maybe you would want to believe other people to be that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:58:43.359
    | text      = So you're saying he's got something of a Bill Hicks candidate list laying in front of him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:58:48.640
    | text      = And he's like, Oh, I see Joe Rogan has some Bill Hicks in him, but maybe he's too high.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:58:53.439
    | text      = And I see Alex has some Bill Hicks in him, but he's a piece of shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:58:57.119
    | text      = You know, I don't, I don't know if it's a mental process like that, but I don't think
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:59:01.279
    | text      = you're wrong.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:01.600
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:02.079
    | text      = It's not a coincidence that like the other big name that's in this group is Doug Stanhope.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:59:07.119
    | text      = Like it's, I think, I think on some level, Kevin Booth had this sacred cow production
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:59:12.800
    | text      = thing, or he's trying to recast Bill Hicks in some ways.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:16.800
    | text      = Try to bring together people who have the appearance of what Bill actually had.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:22.720
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:23.119
    | text      = And they're all faking it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:24.640
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:24.960
    | text      = It's all fake.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:26.079
    | text      = Like a sacred cow.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:28.800
    | text      = Ironically.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:29.920
    | text      = It is, it is an apt and ironic name.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:33.119
    | text      = God damn it, you're good.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:34.399
    | text      = And a name of something that Alex should never have agreed to be a part of.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:37.760
    | text      = Sacred cow is the kind of name that's like, that's what the devil would call something.
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    | timestamp = 01:59:41.199
    | text      = Yup.
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    | text      = Anyway, I think that this peep behind whatever curtain there is, I think it reveals a ton
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    | text      = of that stuff.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:59:50.319
    | text      = And it shows artifice.
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    | timestamp = 01:59:52.880
    | text      = It shows that these people don't really, they don't like each other.
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    | timestamp = 01:59:57.279
    | text      = And it shows that Joe, at least in 2003, was fully aware that Alex is full of shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:03.920
    | text      = And therefore should take a greater amount of responsibility in the way that he has actively
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = mainstreamed and whitewashed Alex's career to the point where it is now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:16.079
    | text      = He has a great conscious, active responsibility in Alex's trajectory.
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    | timestamp = 02:00:24.159
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I mean, listen, it might be lofty to hope that he recognizes his harm done.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:32.800
    | text      = On a simple human and personal and individual level, what he should really notice is that
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:39.920
    | text      = now he says to Alex what Alex said to him about 9-11.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:43.840
    | text      = Mm.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:45.279
    | text      = When Alex goes, 24 months I told you about 9-11, he's like, 9-11 fucking happened, asshole.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:50.880
    | text      = Now he's the one who's like, Alex told me about 9-11.
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    | text      = Do you see, that's how, that's where your brain should go like, oh, I have changed for
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:58.960
    | text      = the worse.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:00:59.520
    | text      = Well, it's exactly like what I was saying about him being able to accurately mock reefer
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:05.520
    | text      = madness in 2003 and creating it now.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:09.439
    | text      = Mm-hmm.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:10.079
    | text      = It's the, you have become the thing you mocked because you didn't follow the instincts
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:16.319
    | text      = that you had back then.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:18.079
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:18.319
    | text      = Which were things like, I'm overexposed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:21.199
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:21.520
    | text      = I shouldn't seek fame.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:23.199
    | text      = I shouldn't do all of these things.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:25.439
    | text      = I know that Alex is full of shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:27.439
    | text      = I shouldn't play along with this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:29.279
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:29.920
    | text      = He didn't follow those instincts and because of it, we're where we are.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:33.920
    | text      = You know, I think part of it is, let's say he doesn't define himself in opposition
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:43.359
    | text      = to the mainstream.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:45.760
    | text      = What he does is he orbits the mainstream.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:49.199
    | text      = Right?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:49.680
    | text      = And this orbit means that essentially he's always going to be dependent upon the mainstream.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:54.239
    | text      = And then when the mainstream is like, come on down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:57.680
    | text      = Well, now he's part of it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:01:59.199
    | text      = And he gets his hundred million dollar check the whole time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:02.079
    | text      = He's thinking I'm a separate thing, but he's not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:05.680
    | text      = He's just part of the solar system.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:07.760
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:08.159
    | text      = If you want to not be these guys, you have to be out.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:12.640
    | text      = You just have to be your own thing, you know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:15.359
    | text      = And that means you can't orbit around the mainstream.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:18.880
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:19.279
    | text      = You just can't do it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:20.159
    | text      = I think that's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:22.560
    | text      = It's like that Black Mirror episode that was about what everybody's like.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:29.840
    | text      = There's like an America's Got Talent thing and everybody's riding bikes or something.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:33.760
    | text      = I remember that one.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:34.159
    | text      = And the guy is the thing to his neck and he's given his passionate speech.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:39.359
    | text      = And then the next scene, he does it every morning, you know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:42.720
    | text      = And that's how he gets paid.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:45.600
    | text      = That is Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:47.279
    | text      = You know?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:47.680
    | text      = And that is, you think that's Alex, but that's Joe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:52.239
    | text      = That's what that really is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:54.000
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:55.199
    | text      = They're both not free of whatever it is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:02:58.640
    | text      = And the freeness and all that shit is fake.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:04.079
    | text      = Yeah, it's fake.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:04.880
    | text      = It's a piece of branding.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:05.920
    | text      = They just want to be rich.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:09.520
    | text      = Anyway, I thought this was fun.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:11.520
    | text      = If only for a couple of those clips where Joe's being a real dick.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:15.680
    | text      = It's worth their weight in gold.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:17.039
    | text      = They are pretty great.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:18.640
    | text      = So we had to...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:19.439
    | text      = We had to...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:20.319
    | text      = Gotta do it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:20.720
    | text      = This is how we see our primary ding dong on this Wednesday.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:23.840
    | text      = But we'll be back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:26.319
    | text      = Yeah, the past.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:27.199
    | text      = Fuck that shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:28.079
    | text      = Yeah, crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:29.520
    | text      = Meteor should have hit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:30.479
    | text      = Yeah!
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:32.640
    | text      = Anyway, we'll be back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:33.680
    | text      = But until then, we have a website.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:34.880
    | text      = Indeed we do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:35.359
    | text      = It's knowledgehite.com.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:36.479
    | text      = Yep, we'll be back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:37.279
    | text      = But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:39.760
    | text      = I am the mysterious professor.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:44.239
    | text      = And now here comes the sex robots.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:46.479
    | text      = Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:47.840
    | text      = Thanks for holding.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:50.720
    | text      = Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:52.079
    | text      = I'm a huge fan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:52.880
    | text      = I love your work.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 02:03:53.680
    | text      = I love you.
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